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Studying for the LSAT / February or June LSAT
« on: January 12, 2011, 06:29:40 PM »
Has anyone considered weather there is a difference in difficulty in the June or February LSAT? My paranoia tells me that the February LSAT is harder because it is the last chance to take it, where the June LSAT is when the responsible students take it and are rewarded with an easier test. Has anyone looked into this or even considered it? I can't get those paranoia voices out of my head!  :o

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Law School Applications / Re: 2.7 undergrad GPA 3.4 MS and 3.7 PhD LSAT 142
« on: December 24, 2010, 08:41:08 AM »
Excellent advice Tossy. Application is in as a patent examiner. I actually work for the Government now, I am a GS-9. I noticed there was a job with the USPTO as a GS-15 after only 5 years experience, which is the top of the GS pay scale - amazing.

I was reluctant to move to DC, although now it seems like the smartest choice.

I noticed there a plethora of law schools to pick from in the DC area, any you suggest? I am retaking the LSAT in Feb. Lets assume I have a 160 LSAT and 2.7 Undergrad GPA with a PhD. I'm not really concerned about which law school I go to, as long as it is ABA accredited.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

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Law School Applications / Re: 2.7 undergrad GPA 3.4 MS and 3.7 PhD LSAT 142
« on: December 22, 2010, 07:44:40 AM »
Yes, I checked out the link, thank you. I assume that most law students use either Kaplan or Barbri; I am curious if there was a bar prep that was preferred by the majority of law students. Some prep courses seemed like smoke and mirrors, and I would rather not shell out 500-3000 for a bogus course. Taking the bar without going to law school will be a challenge; I want all the resources I can get.

BTW, can anyone else search this site, evertime I try to search anything in any forum I get the error message
"You are not allowed to search for posts in this forum."
I am using IE7

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Law School Applications / Re: 2.7 undergrad GPA 3.4 MS and 3.7 PhD LSAT 142
« on: December 21, 2010, 04:11:28 PM »
I appreciate the advice. I have entertained the idea of becoming a patent agent, although until now I haven't given it some serious thought. Ideally, I would like to pass the patent bar and get some practical experience to test the waters. Can anyone recommend a good text to study in preparation for the bar for someone without a JD?

I meant > 150, although I am confident I can get < 150 too,  :P

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Law School Applications / Re: 2.7 undergrad GPA 3.4 MS and 3.7 PhD LSAT 142
« on: December 21, 2010, 09:59:58 AM »
Thank you for the comments, now I know what others think regarding my situation.

Hamilton, if I understand you correctly, you have a MS in organic chem and a JD and are unable to find a job as a IP attorney? I would argue that now is not the best time to be looking for a career. Wait until the baby-boomers start retiring, which is already starting to happen. Now would be a great time for me to start a four year program, since in four years the economy should be back to where it was pre-Leman Brothers collapse.

Mandamus, that is actually a great idea. Any suggestions for passing the bar without going to law school? Perhaps I could start at a law firm as a patent agent and attend evening classes to become a attorney. I dont know of any law schools that have weekend classes?

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Law School Applications / Re: 2.7 undergrad GPA 3.4 MS and 3.7 PhD LSAT 142
« on: December 21, 2010, 08:09:52 AM »
PhD is in inorganic chemistry, and I was involved in basic research, which is not marketable outside of academics. The outlook for chemists is actually slower than average for all occupations. Also, I graduated in May of 08, take a look at the events that took place in the stock market following May of 08. If the first five years of your career are the most important, I am screwed. Also, I cant get a postdoc since it has been 2.5 years since I graduated.

I am confident I can get < 150 next time around, this time around I will actually prepare for the LSAT.

A previous graduate from my lab now works as a patent attorney and is doing very well for himself. I was undecided if I wanted to go that path, although now that I am working a job that has little to do with my major, I think it is time to change directions. As a patent attorney, I will be able to get involved with important issues related to science and technology. According to the IP attorney I know, a PhD in chemistry with a JD are very marketable credentials to have. He mentioned that he gets headhunters calling him on a daily basis.

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Law School Applications / 2.7 undergrad GPA 3.4 MS and 3.7 PhD LSAT 142
« on: December 20, 2010, 03:30:53 PM »
From what I understand, the only GPA that is relevant to law school is the undergrad GPA. My LSAT score is terrible, as it turns out, it is really hard to write a PhD dissertation while craming for the LSAT right before the exam. :'(  I have applied to Suffolk, New England Law, Lewis & Clark, and Seattle U. I will be retaking the LSAT in February, and I have already submitted my applications with the terrible LSAT score with an explanation in the personal statement. I have a feeling I will be turned down by all of the schools above since they go off the undergrad GPA and LSAT score, unless they wait for the February score and it increases to < 150.

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