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Two things:
First, your correspondence courses will not affect your UGPA.  Once you finish your first undergraduate degree, LSAC calculates any subsequent coursework, including undergraduate coursework, as graduate coursework.  Graduate coursework doesn't go into calculation of UGPA.

Second, if you're already admitted, you probably should check with the academic dean at your law school.  If you fail to disclose something you were supposed to disclose, that can cause headaches when you go to take the bar exam.

Current Law Students / Re: JD vs. MJ
« on: April 02, 2013, 04:47:26 PM »
I'm aware that a MJ degree won't allow me to practice and/or be licensed, but I was more less wondering what I can do with it in the legal industry.

I'd suggest you look at books designed for people with law degrees who don't want to practice law, such as:
  • The Lawyer's Career Change Handbook: More Than 300 Things You Can Do With a Law Degree (ISBN-13: 978-0380795727)
  • The New What Can You Do With a Law Degree: A Lawyer's Guide to Career Satisfaction Inside, Outside & Around the Law (ISBN-13: 978-0940675711)
(You can probably get these books through your local library.)

Current Law Students / Re: Preparation Question
« on: April 02, 2013, 04:35:20 PM »
I purchased some audio reviews and listened to them as I had time.  It was like a road map of where the professors would likely be going, and it helped me become familiar with the vocabulary we would be using in class.  When my professor and the recording differed, it usually meant I misunderstood something, and I asked my professor about it.  (On one occasion, my prof and the prof on the recording actually did disagree, so I made a point of remembering the two sides of the issue and which one was my professor's.)

Law School Admissions / Re: Resume
« on: December 12, 2012, 11:43:02 AM »
I patterned my resume after the faculty members' curriculum vitae because I figured, "When in academia, do as the academics do."

Anyways, for a GPA of 3.36 what LSAT score do you think I would need to be accepted into Stanford, Yale, Harvard, Columbia, and Duke?

Here's my typical answer to the typical "For X GPA what LSAT?" question:

Have fun!

Law School Admissions / Re: 2.69gpa/175lsat chances?
« on: November 21, 2012, 05:58:55 AM »
Due to transferring and personal issues, my gpa has suffered(2.69). The report shows ranges in gpa up to 3.9 depending on semester. I have worked for the past 4 years as a NYC real estate broker putting time between these grades, and scored a 175 last year on the LSAT. Chances/target schools?

Plug your stats into the UGPA/LSAT search at and see what you come up with. 

Current Law Students / Re: How early should you sign up for the Bar Exam?
« on: November 20, 2012, 06:16:54 PM »
Actually, it depends on the jurisdiction.  Your state supreme court's website should have the deadlines.  The administrators at your school should also be able to answer your questions. 

In my state, law students must register as a "Candidate for Admission" by November 15 of their second year.  This involves a very intense background check and an in-person interview with a member of the admissions committee.   Then, 3Ls must register by April 1 if they wish to take July bar exam.

Law School Admissions / Re: How does LSAC deal with withdrawals?
« on: November 20, 2012, 05:01:08 PM »
I withdrew from a couple classes when I was an undergrad.  Your understanding of how a "W" affects your grade is accurate.   :)

Thank you for the comments.  It does give me some more food for thought.  I did forget to mention that it would be a PT course load.  Criminal Law, Torts, Legal Research & Writing, and the 1L Law Class.  I did think of ways to utilize the time in the car by using CD lectures; and other information related to the classes.  I would want to utilize the time as best as possible.  Any other suggestions, or thoughts would be great.  Thanks again.

On the topic of audio for your commute:

WestlawNext (WLN) has a feature where one can download material, such as cases, treatise chapters, and law review articles, to one's Kindle.  Some models of Kindle have a "read to me" feature.  (Mine is a Kindle Keyboard.)  Last year, I had a subscription to CVN audio cases, but I found that my Kindle made CVN an unnecessary expense.  Another advantage of WLN/Kindle is that CVN only had selected cases.  WLN/Kindle reads virtually anything in the Westlaw database. 

The drawbacks of WLN/Kindle are:  WLN doesn't have the edited cases, so it's less than ideal when one is assigned excerpts from a long cases, and, unlike CVN, WLN/Kindle will read page numbers and internal citations.  In a law review article with hundreds of footnotes, it will read the footnote numbers as if they're part of the text, and that can get annoying.  Kindle has its own way of interpreting abbreviations, so when I was reading content related to ethics opinions, I'd come to Opinion 2012-11 (abbreviated Op.2012-11), and Kindle would say "Opus 2012-11."

Bar Exam Preparation / Re: Do you have to go to law school?
« on: September 15, 2012, 07:52:22 PM »
It depends on where you are. I know Washington state has a program for studying under a practicing lawyer in good standing as a path to taking the bar, but not sure where else.

The jurisdictions are listed in the ABA Guide to Bar Requirements.  They start on PDF pg.20 of the 2011 edition.  The supplemental remarks after the chart are quite interesting.

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