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Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: My chances?
« on: October 20, 2009, 09:37:58 PM »
I am wondering how law schools look at an Engineering degree.  Do they forgive a slightly lower GPA if it is in engineering?  My boyfriend is in Med School with an undergrad in Engineering, and they do not forgive a lower GPA  as generally your reading/writing skills are weaker. 

Like you, I'm an engineer.  Graduated 10 years ago and worked for those 10 years, and am back at school right now taking some courses.  I asked this same question to both the law advisor at my school and the recruiters that came to my school during career days.  All assured me that the schools do indeed look at undergrad program when considering the GPA, and that an engineering undergrad program is looked at very positively.

Though these were all Canadian schools so I don't know how applicable this is for wherever you are looking.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 175/2.8?
« on: October 19, 2009, 12:17:04 AM »
The 2.8 is indeed LSDAS gpa.  I think.  I'm slightly confused about how to calculate undergrad GPA from a Canadian school as there's a 1.5gpa swing depending on if I use percentage or letter grade reported on the transcript;  It appears that my university has a different letter grade scale than the LSDAS one.  They also report the class average, which I calculated for interest and it was right at the 2.8 mark as well.

I guess I'm most asking for input on how much weight American schools put to ten years of work experience as an engineer.  I realize that my undergraduate GPA is going to severely hurt me, but I was wondering how much of a holistic approach schools generally take.

And thanks for the sites.  I'll check them out.

I really hope I get the same treatment as IheartNewYork.  I'm checking and there's a huge discrepancy in my gpa if it goes from the percentage scale vs the letter scale.  Like a 1.5 gpa swing. 

I wonder if the LSAC takes into account that my school includes the class average on the transcript and the average for my major was still under 3.0.

Here's hoping being old and having work experience is useful for something!

I too am disappointed with my score. I got a 158 and this is the second time doing it. I was expecting 165+ as my average score on timed preptests (with an extra section included) was 164. I was wondering whether I should rewrite or keep the score with my cumulative gpa which is around 3.0-3.1, and my last gpa for my last 60 credits is ~3.2. Like what type of schools can I get into in Canada and in the states?
Re: Canada

When I talked to some students (and admissions) at UBC I was told that the average incoming LSAT was mid-low 160, though I'm not sure what the average GPA was.  Admissions told me that a high 160s would be very competitive with a bad undergraduate GPA but substantial work experience.

On the low end of the scale, Windsor I think was the one that told us they accepted mid-low 150s, though I could be wrong on that.  I wasn't paying much attention during her spiel after I decided that Windsor wasn't for me.

Canadian Law Students / Differences in Canadian law schools
« on: October 18, 2009, 08:42:16 PM »
From my understanding there is a pretty large distinction in job prospects for graduates of the better American law schools and the worse ones.  Is there the same sort of thing for Canadian schools? 

Is there a big enough difference in perception of the law school to, for example, push one away from UofC or UofA if you were interested in natural resources law and to UofT or McGill?  How big a difference is it for something like IP between UBC and UVic when both schools tell me that they have extremely good IP programs.  As if any school would say that they don't.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 175/2.8?
« on: October 18, 2009, 08:27:20 PM »
I did already take it and scored 175.

Thanks for the input.

Choosing the Right Law School / 175/2.8?
« on: October 18, 2009, 01:40:58 PM »
The GPA is estimated since it was 10 years ago and I can't remember what I actually got.  It's probably fairly close to that though.  My school reports percentage instead of letter grades and the upper years I probably averaged mid-70s, with the lower years being... bad.

After graduation I worked for 10 years as an engineer, and I am interested in environmental or IP law, not 100% sure yet, but both have ties to my former work, though the environmental might be a bit of a stretch.

I would prefer to stay on the west coast, I am chinese which where I am right now is not a URM, but I don't know about the US.  And as can be inferred from above, I'm Canadian. 

What would my chances be at some of the American law schools that have a focus on IP/Environmental, or even better, both?

Canadian Law Students / Re: Is mid-40s too old for UBC Law?
« on: October 18, 2009, 01:25:13 PM »
I spoke with someone in the admissions department at UBC law and there is a special access category that they admit people in.  If you apply in that category but would be accepted in the regular stream do to GPA/LSAT you are admitted in the regular stream, you're accepted in the regular stream to preserve spaces for the special access category.

Like you, I have an engineering degree (chem E) and worked in the process control industry for 10 years.  I asked if the engineering degree would help offset my sketchy undergraduate marks (which are substantially lower than what you say yours are) and she told me that with the practice LSAT scores I was getting (high 160s), together with the work experience, that I would be very competitive, so assuming you do even passably well on the LSAT I imagine that you would look even better.

Good luck.

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