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I notice that most of these schools have an agreement with Fleming's or some other company that requires its students to buy their materials.  I was looking at AISOL.  You are required to buy Fleming's Legal Essay Workshop which is $260 on cd.  For that, you will be required to write the 6 essays that come with the workshop that will be critiqued by (I am assuming) Fleming.

Now, I have been able to find the workshop CDs of an older version.  As with law books, nothing really changes and you can use older books plus everything is online.  So, I contacted the school and asked if I could use the older version.  I was told I could, but the essays would not be critiqued by "him." 

The school also requires you to purchase criminal law books by one of the professors and those you can't find used anywhere.

Do you think this is fair?  I mean, I am pretty confident in my legal writing abilities but if I am paying for tuition and part of that goes for someone to critique my essays, then my essays should be looked at.  If the idea is to review essays, does it matter which ones?

Online Law Schools / American International School of Law
« on: July 06, 2015, 06:58:58 PM »
This seems to be a newer distant learning school.  Anybody know anything about it?  They are certainly affordable... Comparable to Northwestern.   They sent me the syllabus for each first year class which breaks down everything that is required and needs to be done for the class for the entire year.   It lists the books required and every thing which really is helpful to make a decision. 

Well... I am 4 weeks into this adventure.  I have already completed all 3 quizzes.  I want to try and do the terminology assignment next.  The case briefs are easy for me since I have done them before and most of the cases we are reading are landmark cases which I have read in the past.

I can see already how hard it is going to be to juggle life and these courses.  We have to read all the casebooks, all the Gilbert Summary books, listen to all the cds which I have listened to Clancey twice but the Fleming's are very long.  The terminology assignment is massive for each class. 

I can do some of the work at the office since I really have nothing to do there, but once I get home... it is kids and eBay.  eBay takes up all the time once I get home until the time I go to bed. 

Sooo.... I will keep plugging along.   The first 4 weeks was spent to get familiar with the way things are done on the site.  So I am ahead of the game.

That is what is going on now. 

I took the plunge and finally enrolled at NWCU.  While I thought I would be dishelved in trying to figure out how to manage the classes and the workload, I give them kudos for giving us a schedule to work with.  They break up the modules into 4 week intervals.  That is a good thing so you can always read ahead and see what is up next.  I already have the midterm.  There are cases to brief (of course) terminology to learn... and each subject has aboout 100+ words to know.  Their biggest goal is to get you ready for the baby bar which I do not think I am going to take.  I do not want to continue at NWCU after my first year, assuming I get through it.  I plan to transfer to a state school that does accept students who have taken their first year online.  I do not want to be a lawyer or practice law.  I will be 50 when I am done.  I just want to learn and do something else.

There are some good websites out there with free flashcards so I did get some of those.  They are uploaded by other students and you can get them for free.  I actually found some by a student at NWCU.

So, we will see how long I will last.  I want it to work out but I am not sure I can juggle all the work.  Torts and Criminal Law are not that difficult but Contracts will be the thorn in my side. 


Online Law Schools / Re: What to expect the first year of DL law school
« on: December 01, 2012, 03:27:40 PM »
I have been accepted to Northwestern California.  I was accepted in Spetember and I believe they give you 120 days from acceptance to get your act together.  The biggest problem I have is having to spend the $525 on the Flemings study guides they want you to buy.  That was not a requirement a few years ago.  The law books themselves are reasonable but when you add in the Flemings, you end up paying almost $1,000 for books.  The tuition is reasonable so you won't have all that debt when it is over.  So, when you add up everything you need to pay for your first year, it is about $4,000.  That is still good but doesn't make it look like such a deal.

This school is cheap.  The books are not current editions so for first year books, it will run about $250.  However, they are requiring you to buy the Home Study Survival Kit which was written and put together by one of the professors at the school (Fleming). I find this somewhat shady.  I understand needing books, but why must I be forced to purchase something written by a professor at the school?  It is a bunch of items to help pass the baby bar. 

Is anyone at the school and familiar with this?  I would like to hear some reviews of the school and if this package is worth the $525.


Online Law Schools / Re: California Southern University School of Law
« on: September 05, 2012, 07:14:16 PM »
I got a Master's Degree in Law & Public Policy from California University of Pennsylvania.  The college is in PA and they also have online classes.  I got this degree online.  They are regionally accredited.  Just a regular university offering an online program.  Fabulous teachers and a fabulous program.  Do not waste time with California Southern University School of Law for a Master's Degree.  A lot of big name colleges offer Master's online.  Research them.

As far as a law degree, it really doesn't matter which online school you go to.  In the end, the degree is the same and only allows you to sit for the bar in California.  Regardless of the pass rate for the bar or for the First Year Exam, you make what you want out of it.  I like to use the analogy of a kid in a bad school district.  You can have a kid in a under performing school, but if the kid wants to learn, he will.  If you want to go to an online law school, that is fine.  You can make what you want of it.

Northwestern California School of Law is cheap.  Concord is expensive.  The pass rate for the first year exam is not bad with either school yet one is $2800 a year and the other $10,000.  Like I said, in the end, it is an online law degree. 

Online Law Schools / California School of Law Orientation
« on: July 17, 2012, 05:44:17 PM »
Well, I decided to try California School of Law.  I had my orientation yesterday which took about an hour.  Talk about an impressive online program.  It took an hour to go through Moodle, which is the platform used to go to class.  It is complex and pretty awesome.  One thing that impressed me is that since we are attending online schools, we are rqeuired to keep a log of all our hours in class and studying law.  Cal. Law has a program where this is done electronically.  In fact, you MUST update your hours at least once a week, but would prefer daily. 

Before starting your first year classes, you are required to take a legal methods class.  The entire class agenda is online already.  All the homework that is listed in the first session must be done before class starts.  And let me say, it is not just a few assignments.  Brief 4 cases and do 2 exercises in CALI, which is another learning tool online. 

I was told that a student flunked his finals because he did not update his study log.  When he told the administrator that he had updated it, they could actually look and see when he logged into the study log and see that he was completely lying.  They seem to be very tough and require a lot.  I guess that is the norm for law school.  I am just wondering how in the world you can do anything else.  Law school is tough, but I do not recall Taft being as tough as this school seems to be. 

I am looking forward to this, but at the same time, with working full-time, selling on ebay full-time and trying to raise 2 teenagers, this is going to be a challenge.  Not to mention classes are 6 pm to 9 pm PST.  I am on the east coast so 9pm to midnight for me.  Yikes!

I attempted them years ago.  they had no online classes,videos or anything.  Strictly correspondence.  I even have all the CDs they sent me for studying.  the cost is cheap but you get what you pay for.  if you want to save some money, tell them you have the CDs and see how much they knock off the price.  I'm sure it is not much then you could buy mine.   I am contemplating California School of Law. moe expensive but you have to attend class online twice a week.  that is a good way to learn.

Online Law Schools / Re: Help me pick an online law school
« on: July 05, 2012, 07:15:11 PM »
I have talked to all the online schools and even tried Taft. I did not care for their teaching method as they did not care about you as an individual.

I am contemplating California School of Law because you are required to attend classes online  2 nights a week.  2 classes a semester...3 semesters a year.  the classes are on pacific standard time and I am on the East coast.  This should be

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