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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« on: August 21, 2016, 03:46:36 PM »
Unless that PhD is from a well respected school, and you have an impressive publishing record plus experience plus connections, you won't end up teaching at State. Maybe as an adjunct for one or two classes, but that's about it.

Academic jobs, even at no name State U's, are insanely competitive right now. The majority of PhDs will not get an academic job.

Absolutely correct, a PhD degree from state will get you an adjunct gig and maybe slightly more.  But a specialized PhD for which there are no programs will yield nothing.  PhD's actually end up earning less than what they would of had they left off with a MA in the social sciences.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« on: August 20, 2016, 08:16:46 AM »

I have a Masters in Law & Public Policy.  I was searching for a ph.d. In some law discipline but was unsuccessful.

I'd advise against a PhD in Law, it is not a very popular degree and won't qualify you to teach at a law school since you do not have a JD and are not a lawyer.  Academic jobs are tight, you'd be better off going for a PhD in Political Science with an emphasis in Public Policy which would have much more utility.  Additionally online and foreign PhDs are a tough sell these days for job seekers.  Good luck.

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I tend to agree, those who the nanny state is trying to protect are too stupid and arrogant to understand the odds of ever becoming a lawyer though distance learning.  I calculated the odds as 20-1 against when I undertook distance learning and knew that if I made it past the First Year Bar exam - the odds improve to 5-1 against.

People misuse words like "nannystate". Based on that math telling stores NOT to use lead paint in your cupcake frosting is "nannystate"

Anyone who spent even 30 minutes researching online law schools would stumble upon California State Bar pass statistics which tell most of the story.  If you want to pass the bar, an online school is the worst alternative. It really works only for those unable to attend a ABA or California bar approved law school.  Distance education on the other hands can work just fine in legal systems that do not require a bar exam as in England.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« on: August 15, 2016, 01:45:37 PM »
Respectfully I have to disagree.  If the OP does not want to be an attorney but be learned in the law, a regionally accredited Masters in Legal Studies is the ticket. The material taught is different from law school in some respects. A fully accredited Masters degree will be useful either in further academic studies or jobwise whereas an unaccredited online law degree is pretty much useless except as a bar ticket. 

Secondly and perhaps more importantly, we have forgotten that a California online program requires the student to pass the First Year Bar Exam and travel to California before they can continue their studies.  That is one nasty exam and has about a 20% pass rate, so why subject yourself to that?
I had mentioned a few things, so I assume you are disagreeing with the EJD part (not the other law doctorates -which are MORE respected than the Masters, since......its the same thing........but higher up.....)

As to the bar requirements, those do not exist for EJD

I am just saying that someone interested in law who does not want to be lawyer should consider a Masters In Legal Studies.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« on: August 15, 2016, 12:22:38 PM »
Respectfully I have to disagree.  If the OP does not want to be an attorney but be learned in the law, a regionally accredited Masters in Legal Studies is the ticket. The material taught is different from law school in some respects. A fully accredited Masters degree will be useful either in further academic studies or jobwise whereas an unaccredited online law degree is pretty much useless except as a bar ticket. 

Secondly and perhaps more importantly, we have forgotten that a California online program requires the student to pass the First Year Bar Exam and travel to California before they can continue their studies.  That is one nasty exam and has about a 20% pass rate, so why subject yourself to that?

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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« on: August 15, 2016, 08:32:30 AM »
I'd choose the MLS over the Executive JD.  Non bar JDs have a long history of being dodgy even though the Concord one is not.  Nothing gets a lawyer more riled up then some non lawyer holding himself out as John Smith JD.  Don't know why that it is but John Smith LLM or John Smith LLB do not have the same negative effect.
Depends on if you want to work for a lawyer or not, if not, screw what they feel.think
I know a CPA with an EJD, he would just laugh at a redfaced lawyer

There is actually a reason - there are instances where holders of dubious JDs from diploma mills like Novus and the old LaSalle (not California registered distance learning law schools), disbarred attorneys, and bar exam failures have tried to dupe the public by calling themselves JDs which while technically correct does not entitle them to practice law.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« on: August 14, 2016, 08:00:13 PM »
I'd choose the MLS over the Executive JD.  Non bar JDs have a long history of being dodgy even though the Concord one is not.  Nothing gets a lawyer more riled up then some non lawyer holding himself out as John Smith JD.  Don't know why that it is but John Smith LLM or John Smith LLB do not have the same negative effect.

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I tend to agree, those who the nanny state is trying to protect are too stupid and arrogant to understand the odds of ever becoming a lawyer though distance learning.  I calculated the odds as 20-1 against when I undertook distance learning and knew that if I made it past the First Year Bar exam - the odds improve to 5-1 against.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« on: August 14, 2016, 08:18:33 AM »
Anyone considering Taft? ... I am not interested in being a lawyer but I have always wanted to study law. I

Over 20 years plus Taft has a good track record of graduates actually passing the state bar.  However since you say you do not want to be an attorney, might I suggest an accredited Masters in Legal Studies from Kaplan or other regionally accredited online provider.  It will be quicker and cheaper. If you still want a JD, then Concord is a good one because it is the only one regionally accredited and has more bells and whistles for its students.  Regionally accredited means that degree is accepted as a real graduate degree by other universities while the other law school's programs may or may not be.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Online PhD or LLD in Law
« on: April 01, 2016, 07:41:32 PM »
Well thanks anyway.

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