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It can help a little bit, particularly if you did very well. It can also help your interview experience if your interviewer went to the same place. I think it may help more if you went to a place with a smaller or particularly loyal alum base. If you went to an LAC (where they don't have grad schools) or place like ND then the connection can be especially helpful. The name itself will only help a little though as there are a lot of HYP people at top law schools. It probably helps a lot more in smaller markets (and not biglaw) that don't have so many HYP people applying.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Teach For America?
« on: August 04, 2009, 05:29:34 PM »
I also have friends who have gone both ways on TFA. Keep in mind that if you really want to do TFA and then go to law school many places will let you defer the two years as well. There are enough TFA people that it is not going to stand out on your resume but it can be a small plus and several schools will grant you fee waivers. Teaching in a struggling school is not something you should do without really being committed to it though. My friends who decided to do it for the perceived resume boost are the ones who really struggled with the experience. You do have to teach all day and also attend graduate-level education classes. TFA also expects you to be in your placement for two years, so it isn't a good one-year stop gap.   

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Take classes in the areas that interest you during your first two years. You'll figure out what you enjoy and what you are good at. Other than keeping your grades up don't worry about it from a law school admissions prospective. If you do something that other people tell you is "easy" but you hate it, you likely won't do all that well anyway. Also, keep in mind that a lot of people who thought they wanted to go to law school when entering undergrad are doing very different things now. Your school will likely have a pre-law adviser who can help along the way as well.  

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I agree that your age will not be much of a factor. It appears that your soft factors are relatively average, which could work against you a bit. However, if your LSAT is above the median then you will have a good chance. If you fall into the 25-50% that is when your mediocre LORs and odd college grade history could hurt you. If you score well you should be fine though.

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Law School Applications / Re: Chances: 3.91, 170
« on: August 03, 2009, 01:11:56 PM »
You will get in somewhere on your list with those numbers (probably several of them) but you may want to add one or two schools ranked a little lower just to be safe. YHS will depend largely on your non-numerical factors but you at least have a shot with good numbers. You may want to add a few schools lower in the T-14 if you are interested in getting any $$. You probably won't get much/any only applying to those places (other than maybe some need-based).

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2L job search / Re: GPA on my resume
« on: August 01, 2009, 07:31:32 AM »
Normally your career services office will tell you when it is to your advantage to include your GPA (with employers who are familiar with your school anyway). I would agree that it is usually good to indicate GPA when it is over 3.0 and rank when it is above the median but ask career services since they will know what has worked well for people from your school in the past.
Whaa, the median at a top 20 is usually over 3 so you should definitely include it if yours is since you are correct to assume employers will think it is lower if left off. If you are slightly below the median but have over a 3.0, I'd put the GPA on and leave the rank off.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: G-Town Part Time
« on: July 30, 2009, 11:56:28 PM »
Good call taking the test again. You are only at the PT median with a 165 so unless you have a fair amount of work experience you may need to do better to have a good shot. Also, now that US NEWS is factoring in the PT numbers, the stats are likely to go up a bit for the PT program (they didn't know they were going to be factored in until after this cycle had started). I have also heard that checking only PT helps. If your LSAT does not improve then you should only check PT.
I agree that you should look hard at Cornell and Duke too, especially Cornell, which tends to weigh the LSAT a little less (given your solid GPA) and really likes to hear that they are your top choice (since they often struggle some with yield vs. peer schools).

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Decision day has come, which did you pick Trump?

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Transferring / Re: GULC w/ 10k grant or NYU/Columbia w/o grant?
« on: July 30, 2009, 03:52:57 PM »
1. Very few of your upper level classes will be Socratic.
2. The difference in the students is very small once you get to the T14. I don't really think "smarter" is too accurate, so you should be especially pleased with the placement boost you would get at CLS over NYU or Gtown. The very top few students at CLS may well be special though because of their excellent grant programs (as in turned down YHS).

School       Median GPA       Median LSAT
Columbia:        3.71           172
NYU:             3.70           171
GTOWN:           3.65           169  (that is with PT)
Day              3.67           170

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Transferring / Re: GULC w/ 10k grant or NYU/Columbia w/o grant?
« on: July 30, 2009, 11:49:52 AM »
I agree that Columbia is probably the best overall choice and is likely worth the money (if you are not too worried about the extra debt in the long-term). It has great legal prestige and excellent lay prestige (which people should not completely discount). Better in both regards than NYU and G-Town. However, don't listen to the guy talking about getting the "best legal education." The actual education will be very similar at all three (good profs and smart students). The places where you would likely learn the "most" and have the most accessible profs. are not the top law schools (where they focus mostly on their research and teaching is something they love but that is secondary). You have only good options here!

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