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Where should I go next fall? / Re: UNLV 1L Taking Questions....
« on: April 17, 2010, 02:32:12 AM »
Do you know anything about gaming law?  Do you have classmates trying to work for casinos?

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Question
« on: August 28, 2009, 04:04:42 PM »
Hi, I have a question AGAIN! I'm taking September test. Is it normal that I still have questions? Shouldn't I be perfectly prepared by this time? I'm getting worried..

No senator spoke at the convention unless he or she was a Democrat. No Democrat both spoke at the convention and was a senator.

Which one of the following conculsions can be correctly drawn from the statements above?

a) No one but senators spoke at the convention
b) No democrats spoke at the convention
c) Only democrats spoke at the convention
d) no senator spoke at the convention
e) Some democrat senators spoke at the convention

The answer is d. B was my guess and I still don't know why d should be an answer...

Help me!!!

This question is fairly straight forward though.  I also figure things out in ways vastly different from the rest of my Kaplan class but this seems like a fairly basic question.  What are you hoping to get on the LSAT

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General Board / Question about which LOR to send to schools
« on: August 27, 2009, 01:45:03 PM »
I posted this on the LOR part of the pre-law section but got no responses after a couple of weeks.

I have 5 options.  Could you guys rank them (although I am pretty sure I know who would be 1 and 5, it's 2-4 that I am struggling with).

1.  Language instructor in the military.  Master Sergeant.  Went to S Cal for Law School, decided he wanted to join the military (he  became a lawyer, passed the bar, practiced, etc...) and became a Korean Linguist.  He was the Jewish Lay Leader at the Defense Language Institute where I learned Arabic in the Air Force.  I ran and organized tons of things for him and he has a very fond opinion of me.  To me, the military plus law school of him makes him the best LOR I have.

2.  Language instructor.  Iraqi National.  Civillian.  Very high opinion of me but am wondering since his English is not "perfect" will it hurt to use him as one?

3.  Associate Director of the Day Camp I have worked at for the past 2 summers.  Will give me a great recommendation about my work planning and organizing the teenage group.

4.  Old family friend who was my sunday school teacher.  PHD.  I know he would give me a great one.

5.  My English 101 teacher who is not yet a PhD, but he has first hand accounts of me in college.  None of the others do.

So, rank them from 1-5, 1 being the best and 5 being the worst.

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If you'd paid attention on the first day of that Kaplan course, you would've KNOWN that you can't just not study for the LSAT and expect to get a 180 (or 170, as it were). Maybe there are some crazy geniuses out there, but the vast majority have to learn how to take the test. Don't just aim for low 160s and stop there - aim as high as you can go. You should be doing all the homework, going to every class, and doing the recommended worksheets. I even bought full tests off of LSAC to take on my own outside class. Put in the effort and it'll pay off.

I know all that now.  I am putting in 2-5 hours each day, 7 days a week.  My scores have improved.  I got a 158 today.

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Not to sound negative but you need to re-evaluate your goals because that is not going to happen based on the info you gave.

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Because I feel like my story is prob very common.

When I first heard of the LSAT and found out what the scores meant, I thought 170 would be cake if I just went to the Kaplan course when I was supposed to. 

Man was I wrong.  I got a 150 on the initial practice, then a month later got a 151.  I put little to no time in outside of class and missed 2 classes. 

Basically, my entire life I had just crushed standardized tests with little to no preparation and was thinking the LSAT was the same thing.  THIS IS NOT TRUE.

You have to put HOURS (I would say you should be studying 10 hours a week at least) in to improve only slightly.

Anyway, just wanted to share.  I still have a month til the test and hope I can put in 15 hours a week to get my low 160s.

Also, screw logic games!

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General Board / What is an LL.M?
« on: August 23, 2009, 10:53:56 PM »
Wikipedia is very confusing on this subject. 

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General Board / Re: I have a question about appearance in law school
« on: August 23, 2009, 08:02:39 PM »
So, just upgrade the outfit to a collared shirt and some khaki shorts and keep the beard neat (but I use bandanas and head bands all the time, my hair is out of control, but it's important to me) and I should be fine until I interview?

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General Board / Re: Once I get accepted by the school I'm going to
« on: August 14, 2009, 03:00:22 PM »
Is there any point to still try in undergrad other than having Honors on my degree?

Could I just get all C's and it not make a difference for my future?

You will have to spend them your transcripts before you enroll, although they won't dig you for that. Some employers may ask for UG transcripts if you went right from UG to law school. General advice, keep your grades up. Besides you don't want to pick up any bad habits right before LS. Remeber that *&^% goes on your perment record.

Can they accept you and then deny you based on your grades Senior year?

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General Board / Re: For anyone who had above a 3.5 in undergrad
« on: August 14, 2009, 02:42:04 PM »
1st semester worked my ass of, put far too much time and effort into it. Twice as much as I did in undergrad (where I had a 3.92). Got straight B+ís in everything. Second semester less work, focuses mostly on legal writing, waited till the end of the semester to outline, grades went up. 2L did a moderate amount of work, avoided classes that had in class exams, took mostly seminar and take home exam classes. Wrote my papers early, then just read what I needed to to answer the take home exams. 3L and 4L (I was part-time) did not read much at all, did not even buy the book in a few classes, skipped a bunch of classes, never took notes, wrote my papers early cracked the book once I got exams. Last semester in law school I did next to nothing at all but ski 2-3 days a week. Graduated 13th in my class.

Once you figure out what works for you/how you study (which is the hardest part of law school in my view) then the amount of time you need to invest to get similar or sometimes even better grades goes way down. It comes down to knowing: A) what type of exam you do best one, B) what type of subjects you do best in, C) knowing the methods that work best for you, D) Using your time wisely (work smart not long) then putting all those together and the amount of work you have to put in to get the same results goes way down. This is not to say LS is not still difficult, its is, but when you got ABCD down, its much easier to tackle with less hassle.

NOTE: GPA is not a good way to look at performance across law schools because the curve varies so much from school to school, a 3.5 at a B- school would be top 10% or better, but at a B+ curve school a 3.5 may only be top 35-40%.


Yeah, I figured that about the curve.  That's why I said relative.

Thanks for your information, I appreciate it.  Good stuff.

Which school did you go to?  Are you working now?  How do you like it?

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