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Law School Admissions / Re: Class of 2012: Final Decison?
« on: June 23, 2009, 09:50:45 AM »
2. Chicago and Harvard
3. An acceptance would be enough to sway me

Law School Admissions / Re: REJECTED, ETC. TODAY
« on: April 07, 2009, 07:44:17 AM »
Well I didn't have to wait long to find out...Hold at Chicago.

Edit: Add Columbia to the list. On reserve.

Law School Admissions / Re: REJECTED, ETC. TODAY
« on: April 06, 2009, 10:40:46 AM »
I've been complete at GW for 8 weeks now...

i've been complete at some of my schools for 5 months with still no word...

I'd die.

What happens when you're at decision pending at Chicago and you're awaiting a phone call only to look on your status checker and see that they have the wrong phone number  ::)...

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: challenge to urm's
« on: March 30, 2009, 07:58:33 AM »
I'm not going to address how utterly insulting your post is as a whole, but rather, just point out a few flaws to you.

1. Poverty causes crime. Since minorities are disproportionately poorer than whites, they commit more crimes. They are not taught by their mommies and daddies that killing others is ok. This leads me to:

2. Although people like to throw around the phrase "meritocracy," it is actually rare in this country for people to advance their class status. Most people stay at the same level or do worse than their parents did. Thus, since blacks were poor when they were freed from slavery, it would follow that their children would be poor too. A cycle of poverty then develops...

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: challenge to urm's
« on: March 27, 2009, 05:27:18 PM »
I tend to stay away from these threads because I have no desire to engage in online arguments but I just have to share a story.  I never really went to an underfunded public school (although one could consider all NYC public schools inadequately funded). I did have to deal with various forms of racism. At 6 I was told to go back to Africa when I didn't know what that meant. At 10 I was told by a friend his stepfather told him a "n-word is someone who steals a lot." At 13 I was told to reconsider my desire to become a lawyer because "the paralegal field is much easier to get into. At 21 I was told by my prelaw adviser to apply only to schools 15-30 with one of the T14 as my reach, because my URM status didn't mean anything to law schools. All of this happened between 1994 and 2009. Tell me when racism doesn't affect URM's and then I will stop checking African American on my applications.

Law School Admissions / Re: Accepted 08/09
« on: March 27, 2009, 12:17:03 PM »
Went to decision pending at Chicago today. Hopefully will be getting that phone call soon...

Law School Admissions / Re: REJECTED, ETC. TODAY
« on: March 25, 2009, 08:58:01 AM »
I've been complete at GW for 8 weeks now...

Black Law Students / Re: 2008-2009 Black T-14 Acceptances
« on: March 09, 2009, 09:40:21 PM »
Don't mean to bump an old thread unnecessarily but is everyone's cycle over (at least t14 wise)?
I'm only in at GULC. Waiting for the rest...

Don't mean to sound cliche but:
"Long time lurker, first time poster" ( ;))
Black female
3.7 gpa
165 lsat
sucky softs (6 yrs at after school program with poor children, research assistant to Columbia alum prof, scholarship, nat'l honor society)

I read through the ENTIRE thread to make sure my question wasn't already answered but I already sent out apps (H,Y,C,C,N,P,GULC,and GWU)so this isn't a 'where should I apply' question. Basically I am worried if I am screwed because of issues with my second recommendation which caused my apps to go complete in February. Thoughts?

Assuming that the issues with your second recommendation don't involve a negative recommendation of any sort, I think you're good for all but HY, with some tiny shot at either.  Some of these schools will torture you with the wait, though!  (Also, six years of service in one program is a pretty good soft.  I mean, sure, at Yale there are some people who started after school programs -- or international non-profits -- themselves, but most people applying to law school cannot display a sustained commitment to any kind of service unless it's through their church.)

Thanks Miss P! I should have been more specific. The complication was that we sent several copies of the letter from October to February and none were ever received or processed. Ended up faxing and it still took them two weeks to process it when it was received. It just sucks cuz I spent most of my summer preparing all of my materials and still couldn't get my apps complete until February.

Black Law Students / Re: URM question...
« on: March 08, 2009, 11:59:21 AM »
I'm really confused about URM status, I was hoping to get some feedback from anyone/everyone...

OK this is probably going to confuse you, but bear with me...In one sense I am Caucasian - I am white, and am ethnically from the Arab Levant. The Arab Levant also qualifies as Western Asia in a lot of categorizations (Middle East, Near East, Western Asia are the most used terms, I believe). My family is part of a large community that emigrated to Africa from the Arab Levant a long time ago (over 4 generations), and most of my family is from and lives in the Sudan. Sudan is technically African, but most Northerners consider themselves Arab (and speak Arabic). I lived in the region (multiple African, Arab, and Asian countries), and I identify strongly with that part of the world. I have been American since birth, and thoroughly confused when it comes to ticking those stupid ethnic boxes.

I believe the US government considers most of the Arab world as "non-Hispanic Caucasian", but I find it really weird to lump myself in with Europeans and the majority of white Americans....culturally, linguistically, etc my background is quite different to the norm. I have no idea whether Arabs are under-represented in law schools (judging by the lack of Arab-related threads on any online forum, I'm guessing we're not OVER-represented, but I could be wrong), and therefore I don't know if my claim is really legitimate in that sense. I personally have never had to qualify my identity as an Arab by choosing exclusively "African" or "Asian" status...but I've always ticked "other" and I'd like a little more clarity. For what its worth I was an active member of my undergrad's African, Arab, and Asian societies (probably not worth much :roll: )

I don't want to start a debate about the pros and cons of the URM system, and I don't want to offend anyone by making it seem that I'm treading on some sensitive ground (for example claiming African American status as a "white" guy). I understand that the reason the URM system exists is to help balance against the obstacles faced by African Americans (and other URMs) because of a general education system/society that is simply not balanced and retains certain prejudices and discrimination. I also realize that plenty of groups can claim discrimination in many walks of life...and as an Arab I am not exactly helped out by my ethnicity in a post-9/11 world (tho this never affected education, it certainly affected (and still affects) professional opportunities). If I can claim URM status legitimately, I will do so...but I just want to make sure my ass is covered and that law schools won't see me as some white kid who's trying to weasel his way into a better school by making a dubious claim.

So..I know I am Arab American....but does that make me African American? Asian American? Neither?

I'd appreciate your thoughts on what I should do

What was said above is correct. Be consistent. If you have checked "other" all your life, check "other" and let them figure it out. When they say "African-American" they mean black. If you were to check that it might become problematic for you in the future. Hope that helps.

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