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Incoming 1Ls / Re: UOP McGeorge class of 2013
« on: May 16, 2010, 06:27:55 AM »
I just finished my first year. I actually love McGeorge. I was a little nervous at first wondering if I made the right decision, but I'm very comfortable with my decision now. The professors are great and the alum are very loyal to McGeorge students. Plus, I've met a lot of really great friends. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer.

I too have thought about transferring during this whole process. However, I truly believe that you should choose the school as if you are going to graduate from it. Also, I think all of us believe we can be in the top, however, the truth is not all of of CAN be. Someone's gotta fall elsewhere. Just try your best and see where that takes you. I'm no expert, but I do believe you'd get a good job coming from the top at either school. Do you want "Big Law"? What are your plans for after law school? If you want some huge high profile job, find another school. I don't like hearing that either, but your chances are better with a better school. However, I'm not looking for "Big Law."

I live 70 miles from Sacramento and 90 from SF. Being so close, I don't think I'd be a very good judge of either. Personally, I'm tired of Northern California. That's why I was considering schools in SoCal. But the cost of living is just too high to put on loans (with interest!!!).

San Fran is frequently overcast and a bit depressing in my opinion. It can get pretty chilly at night even in the summer. I really hate the traffic! And the public transit isn't very reliable and takes forever. I used it during my undergrad years and I am SOOOO thankful those days are over! If you like city life, then SF is a good place. I don't find people especially friendly there. Many are into their own thing, earbuds in their ears worrying about their own problems. I guess that's society in general these days.

Sacramento isn't my favorite city either. I think the crime in both places is high enough. Old Town Sac is nice though. Also the newer places by the airport look nice. McGeorge is located in a bad neighborhood, unfortunately. Though, campus is fairly safe I've heard. McGeorge, despite being located away from its undergrad, does have a real campus feel. It's pretty big for just being a law school. The weather in Sac has its extremes. It's the same weather I experience 70 miles South. We get frost in the winters, but the winters are fairly mild. But the summers are really HOT. 90s are usual, but it does get into the 100s often enough. It's also very dry, which I prefer to humidity.

Since you're coming from Canada, SF's weather probably won't bother you as much as it does me. Sac might be pretty hot for you in the summer. I think both places offer night life and the like. But SF offers a bit more. I hope that helps. That's all I can really say about the cities themselves. Ask around 'cause everyone has different opinions. I think you'd enjoy this area more being that you haven't lived here your whole life. Good luck!

Great question as I am also considering McGeorge. I went to school at UC Berkeley, so I think I've had enough of the Bay Area. The traffic is awful, which is a big reason why I'd not like to practice there. Aside from that I've also steered away from the Bay Area because you'll be competing with Stanford, Boalt Hall, Hastings, and Davis. All these schools are MUCH better ranked than USF (third tier if I remember correctly). These schools also have fantastic reputations as far as I'm concerned.
I guess it all depends on where you really want to practice. If you're dead set on SF and these are your choices, then go for USF. However, if you're more open to other opportunities outside of the area, I'd choose McGeorge. My cousin and his wife graduated from there. They loved it and had a lot of good things to say about Sacramento. McGeorge is also a good option if you're considering government. Overall, I just see SF as a very hard market to penetrate with SO many great schools near and the fact that SF is so desirable even to those on the East Coast. People come from all over to be in SF. It's just my personal opinion, take it with a grain of salt. :-)

I was just wondering how easy it is to transfer from part-time to full-time at McGeorge. Is anyone in this situation or has been? The person in admissions said I'd have to talk to the dean about it, but it's possible. At USD they said it's simply up to the student, but I've heard some schools make it difficult to transfer. I don't want to be stuck at part-time for more than a year if I choose not to. Any insight?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Cal Western or McGeorge
« on: April 07, 2009, 09:21:23 PM »
Thanks guys!

To respond to a couple posts:

It appears that the AVERAGE starting salary is about $60,000 for Cal Western grads. Of course, some salaries are above and some are below.


I have used the CA Bar website to contact alum. I've spoken to 1 grad from each of the schools over the phone. The Cal Western grad said McGeorge may be my best bet in this situation. Other Cal Western grads are having a tough time getting jobs right now. Considering I'd be in less debt coming out and neither school is a Berkeley, Harvard, or whatnot... less debt may be the answer. I'm not 100% sure where I want to end up. I really like SD, but I've also been told that SD law firms are "cheap" meaning you may not get paid the same as someone with all things being equal in say... NY, LA, or SF. SD is very desirable, so law firms get to be more picky. I'm not dead-set on WHERE, but San Diego is a possibility. Ah! I just don't know!

Thanks for the advice, everyone. If there's more, keep it comin'!

Choosing the Right Law School / Cal Western or McGeorge
« on: April 07, 2009, 04:38:00 PM »
Hey guys!

I know from rankings alone, choose McGeorge. This is what I'm looking at:

Cal Western Pros:
Located in San Diego (Love SD)
Good reputation in San Diego
Very friendly and welcoming, close-knit community

Tuition over 3 years: $115,200
High Cost of living
4th tier

McGeorge Pros:
Cheaper: tuition: $8,000-$15,000 less overall
lower cost of living
Closer to home
Top 100 school

Part-time (at least for first year)
I don't like Sacramento
A bit of a cold vibe, impersonal
Will be more difficult to get a job out of LS in San Diego or out of the Sacramento area (I don't want to stay around Sac)

Any advice? What would you do?

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Cal Western FinAid Problems
« on: January 22, 2009, 09:12:02 PM »
Hi guys!

I got my very first letter a couple weeks ago! It's a safety (Cal Western), but it's good news. Anyway, admitted students are suppose to fill out some financial aid stuff online within 2 weeks of being admitted. However, my ID is not working!!! Anyone else having this problem???? I contacted the school TWICE by email and nothing! That's not giving me a very good impression, I'd hate to say. If anyone else has this problem, I'd like to know I'm not alone. Or if someone has a solution, I'd love to hear from ya. Thanks.

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