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Have you tried negotiating the GPA requirement down to good standing?  I was able to do that at a few schools...
Don't know enough about either law school to give meaningful insight, but the "small class size = less competition post graduation" argument sounds like a positive for Cinci.  Good luck with the decision, and congrats  8)

Seeing as IU-Indy has changed my scholarship requirements once, would it be in poor taste to ask for a good standing requirement in light of Cincinnati's offer?

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Good standing = way way way better than top 30%. Go to Cincy.

Assuming the scholarship is not renewed, Indy costs ~$1,500 more at the end of 3 years so the difference in tuition is negligible.  This is part of the reason that I am torn  :(

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Have you tried negotiating the GPA requirement down to good standing?  I was able to do that at a few schools...
Don't know enough about either law school to give meaningful insight, but the "small class size = less competition post graduation" argument sounds like a positive for Cinci.  Good luck with the decision, and congrats  8)

So here is the story..  Before I was in at Cincy, I expressed my concern to IU-Indy with keeping a scholarship that requires top 10% and let them know my other scholarship offers.  IU-Indy then offered the additional scholarship, and lowered the GPA requirement of the big scholarship, effectively making it top 30% to renew.  Because they only minimally lowered the scholarship requirements, I get the impression that they are averse to giving "good" renewal terms.  I would also feel awkward asking since they've lowered it once already.  A day or so after the updates from IU-Indy, I get the money from Cincy with a good standing requirement.

Also, I appreciate the well wishes.  Thanks!

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Indy, your lready there, you like it, and both these schools will have the most pull in the city where they are.

To be clear, I am about 3-3.5 hours from Indy, 4.5-5 hours from Cincinnati.

The thing about Indy is that it can only get cheaper to go there if I happen to renew the scholarship.  They reduced the requirements to top 30% from top 10%, which didn't do a whole lot to ease my mind..  If the scholarship was easier to keep, or if they guaranteed a certain amount, I would go there.

What are some pros/cons to big vs. small classes?

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I've grown to like the midwest, but I am not sure where in the midwest I would want to work.  Been a Hoosier my whole life so IU-Indy has some drawing power.  Cincy would definitely be something different for me (not necessarily in a bad way).

Edit:  Also offered 100% tuition at Michigan State University, top 50% to renew.  I don't really like the 50/50 shot of keeping the scholarship with the tuition at 30,000+.  Have not visited MSU...

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Perhaps you got a "hard version" of the test and it will be graded accordingly.  Assuming this, it follows that you can worry a bit less about your grade.

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Indiana University-Indianapolis:
Tuition last year was ~$16,000 (I am in-state)
  Scholarships:
  $10,000, 3.2 to renew (top 30%, down from top 10%)
  $5,000, 3.4 to renew (top 10%)
If I don't keep the scholarship(s), which is what I am assuming, total debt from tuition will be ~$33,000


University of Cincinnati:
Tuition would be ~$19,000 per year
  Scholarships:
  $8,500 per year, good standing to renew (do not fail out)
At the end of 3 years, total debt from tuition will be ~$31,500

In Indy, I would be living in a high rise apartment downtown and would end up costing more than living in Cincy.  Indy's law building is newer and nicer.  All of the state and federal agencies are right downtown near both the law school and where I would be living.  Big class, 290 students, 1/3 of which are part time.  Section is roughly 100 students.    If I were to lose the scholarship after 1L, it would be possible to consider switching to PT and working to defray costs.  I like the city.

In Cincy, I would be living somewhere in Northern Kentucky (in the Greater Cincinnati region, hopefully right across the river).  The building is old, but I liked it regardless.  The class size is very small, 135 max, LRW and one substantive course with a small section of 20-25 students the first year.  I am from Indiana and know less about Cincinnati in general (neither a pro nor a con, it is just something to consider).  Didn't spend a lot of time in the city, but I am sure I would like it.

Looking for some insight, hopefully from some others in the Midwest.  I could be happy at either school I think, they both have their good points and they seem to about equal out.  The big thing is living in Indy will cost more, but I will be close to everything and the state/federal/govt opportunities downtown are numerous.  I don't know if a Cincy degree will create more opportunities after graduation.  I have visited both schools and I will not be able to receive additional scholarship funding.

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If you would be so kind as to lend me your identity, I will go to Notre Dame on half scholarship.

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General Board / Re: Body Art in the Legal Field
« on: April 11, 2009, 03:52:06 PM »
Is the body art, say, a gavel?  Perhaps a tattoo of a briefcase?  If so, I believe they would be appreciated.

If not, is the body art sexy?  Judges appreciate sexy.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Berkeley v. Columbia v. Chicago
« on: April 09, 2009, 04:43:46 AM »
...So, is going to the school you like better worth $20,000-40,000 more over three years?

I think you should do what feels best to you.  How many times are you going to go to law school, right?

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