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Well, after practicing and practicing for hours and hours scoring in the seventies, I ended up with a 161. I was expecting worse actually. Even though I thought this October 2008 LSAT was easier than average, I was nervous as hell during the test. The very first section I got was an (experimental) games section that was difficult and had me racing against the clock. I completely bombed it and just rushed through Section 2 (LR) and Section 3 (RC) before realizing that the game section may not have counted. Sure enough, Section 4 was the real games section and it was easy as hell. But by then I realized that I had done poorly on 2 and 3 because of my goddamned spineless emotions-in-turmoil after getting killed by Section 1. I actually let an EXPERIMENTAL section defeat me!! Argh.

I'm debating whether or not to retake, but at this point, I'm leaning towards giving up. Sorry about the rant; congratulations to all the people that got the score they wanted (or better!) Thanks.

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LSAC and LSDAS / Re: LSDAS GPA
« on: August 13, 2008, 01:41:19 PM »
Great advice General Yankee and WashLaw. Do either of you mind if I PM you sometime after I've crafted my addendum?

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LSAC and LSDAS / Re: LSDAS GPA
« on: August 13, 2008, 09:23:54 AM »
If your grades changed completely when you transferred schools, law schools would see that and surmise that the first school was not a good fit for you, so an addendum that explains that might not be necessary. However, it might not look good that you had to transfer "down" (no offense but UT-Dallas is just not considered to be on the same level as Austin) to get good grades, so you might want to explain your reasons for transferring - that Austin was not simply too hard for you. What law school would want you if you can't perform at a challenging school?

Good point. I had actually transferred to UT Dallas because I had to move back home to take care of my mom. I could've easily just changed majors and stayed at UT Austin. My mom's deteriorating condition contributed to my shoddy grades at UT Austin (not to mention it was a much harder major), but I don't want to use her health as an excuse. It just sounds so typical, you know? Would you recommend doing this?

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LSAC and LSDAS / Re: LSDAS GPA
« on: August 12, 2008, 02:23:22 PM »
Yes it's worth continuing since a lot of people with great LSAT's and low GPA's go to top schools. Also, a lot of schools are pretty aware that when you change schools AND majors and start improving that your first UG school/major wasn't the right fit. Simply right an addendum explaining the situation or the reason behind your move and you should be fine, of course depending on your LSAT.

Thank you, meggo. Please don't take this as skepticism, but when you say that "a lot of schools are pretty aware that when you change schools AND majors . . . ", do you know this through first-hand experience, anecdotal, or from a concrete source? I would love to believe this, but oh man, you would not believe how misled I've become by going off anecdotal advice. For example, for the longest time, I believed by LSAT of 163 was absolutely abysmal when I've now learned that it is actually pretty decent.

Also, when you say write an addendum, do you mean on the personal statement or directly to an LSAC candidate service rep?

Thanks again!!

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LSAC and LSDAS / Re: LSDAS GPA
« on: August 12, 2008, 11:34:09 AM »
Wow, I never knew this about the GPA thing. I have a 3.79 at UT Dallas earning a BS in Economics; however, I had an extremely low (~2.something) at UT Austin when I majored in neurobiology and was having a hell of time juggling everything. I attended my first Powerscore class last night, and the instructor dropped this bomb that LSAC incorporates all grades, not just the ones on your UG transcript. When I started at UT Dallas, I had had some classes transfer as credits, thinking that I could disregard the grades. After switching to the economics major, I ended up doing pretty well.

What should I do?? My instructor mentioned in passing that you could ask "the committee" to alter your GPA? Are there any mitigating factors, such as switching majors? I'm PTing in the 160's range right now and am reasonably confident I can breach the 170's by the end of the course. However, with such a subpar GPA, is it even worth continuing??

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Hello! Tell me what I'm doing wrong.
« on: August 10, 2008, 04:50:46 PM »
Thanks for your candor, Lindhberg. Everything I know about law school admissions and LSAT scales, I learned from friends and friends-of-friends. I guess anecdotal advice is not the best way to learn about something!

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Hello! Tell me what I'm doing wrong.
« on: August 09, 2008, 06:52:09 PM »
Are you insane?  You're already above the 90th percentile.  Why would you want to give up?

Make sure you're working untimded at this point.  I'm sure you'll improve significantly after a course, and with more practice.  170 isn't unattainable if you've already hit 165, but you can also get into T14 schools with below a 170.

Haha thanks. I should say that my GPA is 3.79 from an unknown school (UT Dallas; BS in Economics) and I have zero connections, so I really need a high 170 to get into a good one.

Lzero, what did you get on your first practice test?

I think I got around the high 150's, but I can't remember. I just took my first PT under timed conditions today as my initial Powerscore diagnostic. It was a little different for me as I had an experimental section, and I didn't get to stop and check my answers after completing each section. It was pretty draining sitting there for four hours! Anyway, I ended up scoring a 163, another plateau. :-\


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I'm sorry, this was a double post. Mods please delete.

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Studying for the LSAT / Hello everybody! Tell me what I'm doing wrong.
« on: August 08, 2008, 06:35:49 PM »
Hi everyone, as you can tell I'm just another pissant n00b. I've been lurking for the past couple days when a friend of mine informed me of this site. What a great resource! Thank you all; I don't think any of you realize how much help your advice gives to peons like me.

Now, I've only read through the Powerscore Bibles (LG and LR) within the past couple months and have taken six PTs so far. It's extremely frustrating because I seem to hit around 165 and have not improved. Tomorrow (8.9.2008) I'll begin taking the Powerscore (full-length) classes, although I'm worried that perhaps I've started too late. On top of this, I work a demanding full time job as well, so I only manage to study 2-3 hours (1 PT) maybe two or three times a week.

I've really lost a lot of hope since I've yet to improve my score. I'm keeping a log of the LR (my weakest area by far) questions that I've missed. It seems like I have the most trouble with Must be True and Flaw questions. LG and RC I can handle with two or three questions missed per section, but LR just murders me. I'd keep plowing through more PTs, but I think I'll only manage to familiarize myself with the questions without actually improving upon them.

I'm looking for some study guidance as well as just a reality check. Am I being pessimistic in my outlook or just realistic? Of course, my goal is to obtain a 170+, but that goal feels utterly impossible now. Would it be wiser to give up before I invest even more time and money into this endeavor? What do you guys think? Thanks again!

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Studying for the LSAT / Hello! Tell me what I'm doing wrong.
« on: August 08, 2008, 06:31:57 PM »
Hi everyone, as you can tell I'm brand new. I've been lurking for the past couple days when a friend of mine informed me of this site. What a great resource! Thank you all; I don't think any of you realize how much help your advice gives to peons like me.

Now, I've only read through the Powerscore Bibles (LG and LR) within the past couple months and have taken six PTs so far. It's extremely frustrating because I seem to hit around 165 and have not improved. Tomorrow (8.9.2008) I'll begin taking the Powerscore (full-length) classes, although I'm worried that perhaps I've started too late. On top of this, I work a demanding full time job as well, so I only manage to study 2-3 hours (1 PT) maybe two or three times a week.

I've really lost a lot of hope since I've yet to improve my score. I'm keeping a log of the LR (my weakest area by far) questions that I've missed. It seems like I have the most trouble with Must be True and Flaw questions. LG and RC I can handle with two or three questions missed per section, but LR just murders me. I'd keep plowing through more PTs, but I think I'll only manage to familiarize myself with the questions without actually improving upon them.

I'm looking for some study guidance as well as just a reality check. Am I being pessimistic in my outlook or just realistic? Of course, my goal is to obtain a 170+, but that goal feels utterly impossible now. Would it be wiser to give up before I invest even more time and money into this endeavor? What do you guys think? Thanks again!

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