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Black Law Students / Re: Dumb things that we said as 0L's
« on: June 28, 2009, 11:14:09 AM »
Truone, Cui Bono?, Sands...check your inbox. I PMed you since I didnt want to keep hijacking this thread. Hope all is well. lata!!

Black Law Students / Re: Dumb things that we said as 0L's
« on: June 24, 2009, 10:38:10 AM »
Quote from: cui bono? link=topic=4019785.msg5344737#msg5344737 date=1245669318

LOL- no, but buy my book anyway.  LEEWS is pretty interesting and comes highly recommended by most people.  I met the creator dude in person once- he seems to genuinely care about people finding the light through the fog that is law school. The program is pretty expensive around $175 during my first year and I don’t know if it’s gone up.  Just the primer would run you about $30.  I don’t think everyone needs it. And I think it applies mostly to “issue spotter” type examinations with multiple parties in the fact pattern.  But LEEWS does give some good strategies.  It discusses how to read a case, how to think of cases in an exam focused fashion, exam tips, etc.   
But like all of these types of things, it may create a sense of false sense of security.  Just because you got your hands on it doesn’t mean that you’ll do well.  Why? (1)  Everyone else could have gotten their hands on it as well and you’re graded on a curve (2) just getting the material/supplement isn’t going to do any good if you don’t know how to use it properly. I think 1Ls kinda feel like they’re in the clear as long as they’ve picked up some type of supplement from the bookstore.  Like they’re “safe”.  As I’ve said in my book the knowledge aint gonna get in your head by osmosis!

Actually the law school discussion board  is in my book- not mentioned by name of course but there was one particular ‘incident’ that I wanted the reader to know about when it comes to online networking. ;-)

I'll buy your book if you help me write mine lol, is that a good deal? lol. Liking the osmosis anaology. On a serious tip, LEEWS sounds very interesting, I wonder why they havent mentioned it at our program yet. We have like 2 to 3 presenters come in every week and try to tell us how their programs are the best thing for law student. There are so many of them out there, I feel like they are not trying to help but just making a business  and taking advantage of naive 0L's anxiety. Im sure a small percentage of them mean well there is way too much solicitaion going on.  I am glad you pointed out"false sense of security" because I can see how we can easily use these suppliments as a shortcut and rely on them. Lets hope I wont be one of those, I wont even allow my self to open any suppiments right now for these courses I am taking lol, I figured i should get the work habit down first!

About Online networking, am I networking right now? lol And I see you gangin up on me with your peers. TSK TSK..poor 0L ME ~ tear tear~ lol

Black Law Students / Re: Dumb things that we said as 0L's
« on: June 24, 2009, 10:21:29 AM »
Well well, I see lets school this 0L seminar has started lol and the references such as "young grasshoper" starting to come out lol, I feel like I am a freshman on the basketball team all over again lol

Truone & Sands, I see you put my typo on blast like that lol, its all good though I see how yall upperclassmen treating a young "grasshopers" lol. But I get your point that since its only one final, everyone will catch up in regards to technical parts of the lawschool aspect. And for me to argue other wise based on what I think it will be when people who have been through it tell me other wise, will be foolish and a bit naive. But to go down swinging I was looking at from the perspective of "thinking and writing like a lawyer". I felt like it is a mind set you never master and the longer your train yourself the quicker and the better you get at it. I guess that is more of a personal development. Also I was thinking mostly everyone will be on the same level intellectual abiliites and work ethic. Therefore having any kind of advantage, even a slim one, will make the difference of getting those extra few points who sets you apart from the curve. However since you guys have actually gone through the process, I will have to accept your inputs until the time comes for me to speak from first hand experience.

P.S on the curve comment, we just had some of writing assignment grades, graded on a curve, back and lets just say some people are not as "friendly" as they were in the beginning lol. I never seen a line form so quick behind a professor as the day we got our grades back lol

Black Law Students / Re: Dumb things that we said as 0L's
« on: June 21, 2009, 01:27:57 PM »
Eh, don't be jealous yet- it aint out yet and there's a major hold up since I feel weird about advising folks to prepare during the summer. If I did "sell out" (no pun intended) it would have been in bookstores already. Yeah once it drops, I certainly will come to the board and tell folks the title and to run out and buy 10 copies each on the BLSDB-love tip!  ;)
I do agree with you that Planet law school does talk about some things that are too early for a 0L as it goes into what goes down as a 2L and 3L.  My book centers on 1L and is written primarily for 1Ls and 0Ls. 
 Haven't read "Expert Learning" myself but it looked interesting. Have you heard of LEEWS (Legal Essay Exam Writing System) by Wentworth Miller - it's a primer book and CDs/live program.

Yea Expert Learning is great in my opinion. Who knew all A students weren't born a genious lol. As far as preping for the summer, I am obviously an 0L and dont have much authority to make statements like this, but when I first started everyone told me there is nothing you can do to prep for school in the summer. But now after going half way through this program, I will have to say I have to disagree. I am only half way done and I am already learning how to brief cases; spot issues; synthesize cases; learning how to utilize lexis and westlaw; writing legal memos; taking hypo exams and evaluating the answers and etc. I just dont know how that can not be considered a MAJOR advantage over some one who did not have some idea of these things on day one. But who knwos maybe this looking back this will be one of my dumb thing I said as an 0L

Get the book out, stop trying to hold out on us 0L's out there, its def good to hear you are actually focusing on 0Ls and 1Ls. And I see your point on the anonymus tip, Lord knows wuteva organization I end up associating with will want to clear themselves of my off the record comments.

I havent heard of LEEWS. This guy named Micheal Shwarts came in and did some presentation on IRAC methods and some speaker came in and gave us a program called ASPHEN LAW (I dont know if you heard of it) and it was really helpful with exam taking. What is it? it sounds interesting? or do I have to buy your book first? lol

Black Law Students / Re: Dumb things that we said as 0L's
« on: June 19, 2009, 03:23:56 PM »
LOL it's fun to "torture" the 1Ls. 

Thanks.  My book is about law school- and all that encompasses.  Sort of a "One L" meets "Planet Law School" meets "Getting to Maybe".  Just another law school prep book except there are quite a few juicy parts that are unique as compared to what's out there.  It's a book full of stuff I wish I would have known prior to going in. I'm thinking of writing a second book because the first has some cliffhangers.  Some stuff I say is pretty out there so the book is written under a pen name- but there are some definite clues as to my real identity.

Oh sounds like very interesting. I am jealous, but glad for you lol. I skimmed over Plant Law School II, it seemed like some parts were too early to read as an OL. I read some parts of getting to maybe, and book is more helpful I think. Over here, they are making us read this book called "Expert Learning" and I think that was the best out of all of them. If you ever want to share your book title let us know and Ima try to check it out, but im sure you probably want to stay anonymous since you have a lot of posts in here and got knows what outlandish said somewhere like 1000 post ago lol

Black Law Students / Re: Dumb things that we said as 0L's
« on: June 18, 2009, 10:30:31 PM »
haha @ the law professor comment. At this state, I highly doubt my ability to teach any thing to anyone lol

Sands, I hope you do become a law professor because I usually read your comments (along with TrueOne, Cui bono) and you guys seem like you know what you talking about lol. but please dont torture the 1Ls like your predecessors lol

Bueno, that’s great you already wrote a book. That’s actually one of my major Goals and im looking forward to sharpening my skills in law school. By judging the legal memo I wrote today, lord knows I need it lol. I am concerned about losing that excitement like you mentioned. Its funny you used the "hide the ball" reference because I was speaking to one of the professors today and he said that exact phrase like 100 times lol.. what is your book about? if you dont mind me asking?

P.s My bad for temporarily hijacking this thread!!

Black Law Students / Re: Dumb things that we said as 0L's
« on: June 15, 2009, 04:53:20 PM »
@Truone, on Pennoyer v. Neff, you are right.

I am currently in this CLEO summer pre law program that preps you for law school. It is basically 3 classes held everyday of the week for the summer which are taught like a regular law school class, with crazy ass readings and all that. Anyways, we just had to read Pennoyer v. Neff about a week ago, and the professor made a point of trying to use "socratic method to the max in order to prepare us for whats ahead" and guess who the lucky student was? yours truly lol. I mean I did alright but I quickly realized no matter how much stuff or heads up you guys give us on here, it is a different ball game when you actually going through it. Its like I read the case, briefed it and thought I got the main point. Then, I get to class and its like I missed something or focused on the issue within the issue instead of the main issue or something crazy lol, you never win with these people lol. But nobody told me how stimulating law school is, yes I hate havin to sleep only 5 to 6 hours most of the night, but I love it the readings, classes, and discussions with my classmates..

I know this is like kiddie stuff to you guys by now, but what do you think? Too early to be talking about I love it?l

Current Law Students / Re: Transferring from Cooley...any tips?
« on: May 22, 2009, 01:29:43 PM »
Its extremly tough but if someone is in the top 10% of their class at cooley and want to transfer they have pretty good options. I know a friend of mine who was able to transfer from Cooley to Georgetown this year, and from what he told me couple of other people in his class have done the same as well. Just throwing that out there lol

Although I cant imagine all those thousands of students fighting to be in the top 10%, talk about cut throat competition!!

Black Law Students / Re: The Howard Law/HBCU Law Schools Thread
« on: May 21, 2009, 11:16:07 AM »
Ike, if those numbers hold up you probably will get in and most likely get some scholarship as well!!

If I were you I would go to somebody else. It has ethical violation flag all over it and you dont want it to come back and bite you on the ass when you least expect it. If you are that close with the person tell them you do not feel comfortable about writing it and if they will reconsider their request.

That just me though!!

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