Law School Discussion

***UPDATED***
I have updated the list of acceptances and rejections for the top 25 schools to include last years data (2007-2008) for this years cycle.  Hopefully this can be of some help to you.  Remember, this is all LSN data, so take it with a grain of salt.


1. Yale-                  Accepted: 12/20/04, 12/19/05, Last Year: 12/06/07     Rejected: 12/28/04, 2/4/06,  Last Year: 01/09/08
2. Harvard-               Accepted: 11/23/04, 11/25/05, Last Year: 11/21/07*    Rejected: 01/12/05, 1/12/06, Last Year: 01/04/08
3. Stanford-              Accepted: 11/23/04, 11/21/05, Last Year: 12/20/07     Rejected: 01/15/05, 1/12/06, Last Year: 01/28/08
4. Columbia-              Accepted: 12/01/04, 12/12/05, Last Year: 11/28/07     Rejected: 12/10/04, 12/14/05,Last Year: 12/08/07
5. NYU-                   Accepted: 12/01/04, 12/14/05, Last Year: 12/03/07     Rejected: 12/3/04,  12/14/05,Last Year: 12/12/07
6. Chicago-               Accepted: 12/17/04, 12/21/05, Last Year: 12/19/07     Rejected: 12/20/04, 1/3/05,  Last Year: 12/29/07
7. Penn-                  Accepted: 12/05/04, 12/15/05, Last Year: 12/14/07     Rejected: 12/2/04,  12/10/05,Last Year: 12/31/07
8. Michigan-              Accepted: 11/16/04, 11/22/05, Last Year: 11/06/07     Rejected: 12/15/04, 1/13/06, Last Year: 01/04/08
9. Virginia-              Accepted: 12/13/04, 12/1/05,  Last Year: 11/28/07     Rejected: 12/15/04, 12/12/05,Last Year: 12/03/07
10. Berkeley-             Accepted: 12/01/04, 11/02/05, Last Year: 11/15/07     Rejected: 01/24/05, 2/3/06,  Last Year: 01/05/08
11. Duke-                 Accepted: 11/30/04, 12/10/05, Last Year: 09/19/07     Rejected: 12/30/04, 3/21/06, Last Year: 01/08/08
12. Cornell-              Accepted: 12/09/04, 12/2/05,  Last Year: 12/11/07     Rejected: 12/15/04, 12/16/05,Last Year: 12/14/07
13. Northwestern-         Accepted: 11/15/04, 12/22/05, Last Year: 12/11/07     Rejected: 12/12/04, 12/29/05,Last Year: 12/18/07
14. Georgetown-           Accepted: 11/01/04, 11/01/05, Last Year: 10/15/07     Rejected: 11/20/04, 12/8/05, Last Year: 12/05/07
15. Vandy-                Accepted: 12/06/04, 12/12/05, Last Year: 11/10/07     Rejected: 12/08/04, 12/12/05,Last Year: 12/15/07
16. UCLA-                 Accepted: 12/15/04, 12/20/05, Last Year: 11/07/07     Rejected: 3/7/05,   2/10/06, Last Year: 12/15/07
16. UTexas-               Accepted: 11/10/04, 11/05/05, Last Year: 11/01/07     Rejected: 11/23/04, 12/05/05,Last Year: 11/15/07
18. USC-                  Accepted: 11/20/04, 12/15/05, Last Year: 12/17/07     Rejected: 01/25/05, 1/26/06, Last Year: 02/05/08
19. WUSL-                 Accepted: 11/23/04, 11/23/05, Last Year: 11/15/07     Rejected: 01/10/05, 3/20/06, Last Year: 04/02/08
20. GWU-                  Accepted: 12/10/04, 12/7/05,  Last Year: 12/18/07     Rejected: 12/08/04, 12/6/05, Last Year: 01/30/08
21. Boston U-             Accepted: 12/20/04, 12/21/05, Last Year: 01/22/08     Rejected: 01/25/05, 1/31/06, Last Year: 02/19/08
22. Minnesota-            Accepted: 12/02/04, 12/13/05, Last Year: 11/02/07     Rejected: 12/03/04, 12/16/05,Last Year: 12/20/07
22. Emory-                Accepted: 12/17/04, 01/10/06, Last Year: 12/13/07     Rejected: 02/23/05, 02/20/06,Last Year: 02/15/08
22. Notre Dame-           Accepted: 12/01/04, 12/23/05, Last Year: 11/16/07     Rejected: 12/09/04, 12/27/05,Last Year: 12/10/07
25. W & L-                Accepted: 12/01/04, 12/19/05, Last Year: 12/03/07     Rejected: 03/06/05, 03/1/06, Last Year:04/01/08

*- I put this next to Harvard because one person is reporting an acceptance on 10/21/07, not 11/21/07, however I believe this to be incorrect because a.) there were A LOT of people reporting acceptances on 11/21/07, but none were reporting any acceptances earlier than that except this one, and b.) the 10/21/07 acceptance has a "complete" date for Harvard as being 10/31/07, which leads me to believe it was just an oversight and he/she meant to put 11/21/07.

Interesting Notes
-Stanford seems to accept people a lot later in the cycle than most other schools.  Also, their acceptances are all over the place.
-Columbia only accepts a few in late November/December, the majority of their acceptances start at the end of January onwards. 
-NYU accepts most (I would say upwards of atleast 85%) of their applicants in December and January.  Not as many rejections, it seems, from NYU as compared to the schools around it.
-Chicago sends most of its acceptances in January/February.
-USC rejections are sent out significantly later than everyone else's.
-All of WUSL rejections came in the month of April.
-Most acceptances to W&L seemed to be during December/January.
-All but one rejection to W&L was in April, the one not in April was on 05/09/08.
-Most rejections to GWU came in February and April.
-Seems like Boston just lets the applications sit there until the spring semester.

Just a quick question.

I will be getting a LOR from a professor at my University (I've had 4 classes with her and she's my advisor).  However, I have done a lot of church leadership activities since I was in high school, and thought about getting a LOR from my Reverend.  Do you think schools would frown upon that because it's religious?

Some questions that need to be answered before you can get any sure advice are, when did you take the LSAT (all 3 times)?  What's your UGPA, and how long ago did you graduate?

Also, what makes you convinced that you will do better this time around?  Have you taken any diagnostic tests?  If so, what were the scores?  Did you take any diagnostic tests before the first 3 times... and how were the scores?

Also, what schools did you apply to and when?  Were you waitlisted anywhere?

I would recommend taking a prep course, they're kind of expensive but the amount you increase on the LSAT (which translates to money from the University) is worth it!  But, one very, very important thing with the prep course.  When you go you have to do ALL the work!  Too many people skip classes, don't do the homework, and don't ask questions when confused.  These things are necessary for getting a big score increase, because a prep class can help you tremendously... but they can't do the work for you.  I would suggest taking a prep class (I don't know when they start in your area or how long they run for), then taking the February or June LSAT... then applying in a year for the Fall 2010 cycle (granted, only if you have atleast a 20 point increase on your LSAT).  The reason behind this is, people who are huge splitters (I am one as well, but the opposite splitter from you) are always risky for law schools to take and it can really go either way.  The number one way to increase your chance to get into law school being a splitter (or really anybody) is by applying very early in the cycle (basically apply EA to all schools you can that are non binding, and apply to all schools by Nov. 1).  By taking the December LSAT, then having to wait for the scores to come out, is just not a wise thing to do in the least.  It's too late in the cycle.  Why are you not considering the October LSAT... that will be early enough for you to get your applications in EA and by Nov. 1.  Is it because the time period between LSAT's is still in effect during October?

 

This is probably a stupid question, but here goes.  I took 2 classes at a community college one summer (back home during the summer), and transferred them to my current University.  On my transcript the classes are included, but the grades are not configured into my GPA.  Will they be configured into my GPA by LSAC?

Well I do have some updated information.  Grades just came in for summer 1., and I'm currently in summer 2.  Based on summer 1. (and how I think I'll do summer 2.), my GPA will be approx. 2.2-2.25.  Obviously still bad, but will it make a big difference from a 2.1?

Also, my last 40 hours have been a 3.4.

Will this make any difference at all do you think?

Thanks!