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Current Law Students / submit official transcript to firms?
« on: July 15, 2008, 10:17:03 PM »
when do law firms for off-campus job fairs typically request submission of official transcripts? Is it right after the Symplicity deadline or do they wait a while (i.e during the interview)? I'm taking a summer course and was wondering if it would be included on there if they don't request it until later on. Thanks.

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Job Search / Re: Am I screwed?
« on: June 12, 2008, 09:00:36 AM »
Thanks for the info, Jacy85. On a related note, I am interested in trying to clerk for a federal judge after I graduate. If I end up doing that and finish with a higher GPA by the time I graduate, am I to assume that can help my chances as well when I apply to firms afterwards? (What exactly is the process/timeline for people interested in firm jobs who are doing judicial clerkships after graduation? Do they secure jobs before their clerkship? Do they wait until the following summer?). Also, are LLM programs (if I actually am interested in them) help at all? I know Tax LLMs are quite common (though honestly I don't think I'm that interested) but I figure I should at least know about these things if I end up changing my mind.

Yellowbrickroad, I believe they do have some sort of lottery system (I'm actually meeting with my adviser today to get a better understanding of the whole process). In general, when discussing working for them, is it acceptable for me to say things like "I had a good first semester, but I dropped, I intend on working harder and have law firm experience and got onto law review", that kind of schtick? How do you feel I can convey that I'm worth giving a chance even if my grades dropped a bit last semester? Thanks in advance.

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Thanks for the info.

So these are based on grades at the end of 2L year? If so, is there a process for people who apply right after 3L year (graduation) as well? Is it any different (i.e. are they looking to see you have a job/doing something after you graduate?).

In general what's the timeline for application?

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Job Search / Am I screwed?
« on: June 11, 2008, 10:25:44 PM »
I just got on Law Review and IP Moot Court, but my gpa is around a 3.25 (which is prob top 40%) at a top 20 law school. I had a fairly good first semester, but my second semester dropped a bit (still trying to figure out what the hell happened). I'm working as a summer associate at a law firm this summer.

Anyhoo, I'm doing OCI as well as regional job fairs this fall.

(1) Should I contact law firms ahead of time in preparation for this?

(2) Do I have a good chance for a lot of these firms? Do they even look at the 1st semester grades for 2L year?

(3) Do they have this stuff wrapped up by a certain date (i.e. can I also apply later on in the year/do they monitor your progress)?

(4) If I don't get the 2L firm job I want (and continue where I'm at this summer) but show a marked improvement in the 2L year in terms of my grades, do firms still hire you after school? (E.g. let's say i wanted to work for Fish & Richardson but don't get offered for 2L summer, when they're recruiting at the beginning of 3L year, do people in my position still have a good chance or are hirings drawn solely from previous summer associates?).

Basically, am I screwed from getting a job I want even if I improve? (I'm not necessarily interested in a big law firm job, just location outside of where I go to school).

Thanks in advance.

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Just curious as I'm a rising 2L. Does it help that you did a judicial externship with a Fed Dist. Court judge? Is it pretty much just being on law review and having a high enough GPA (top 25%?) by the end of your 2nd year? Should you contact prospective judges early on? Any candid advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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 I actually had a few questions related to this:

I just got on Law Review and IP Moot Court, but my gpa is around a 3.25 (which is top half for sure, prob top 40%) at a top 20 law school. I had a fairly good first semester, but my second semester dropped a bit (still trying to figure out what the hell happened). I'm working as a summer associate at a law firm this summer.

Anyhoo, I'm doing OCI as well as regional job fairs this fall.

(1) Should I contact law firms ahead of time in preparation for this?

(2) Do I have a good chance for a lot of these firms? Do they even look at the 1st semester grades for 2L year?

(3) Do they have this stuff wrapped up by a certain date (i.e. can I also apply later on in the year/do they monitor your progress)?

(4) If I don't get the 2L firm job I want (and continue where I'm at this summer) but show a marked improvement in the 2L year in terms of my grades, do firms still hire you after school? (E.g. let's say i wanted to work for Fish & Richardson but don't get offered for 2L summer, when they're recruiting at the beginning of 3L year, do people in my position still have a good chance or are hirings drawn solely from previous summer associates?).

Basically, am I screwed from getting a job I want even if I improve?

Thanks in advance.

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I actually had a few questions related to this:

I just got on Law Review and IP Moot Court, but my gpa is around a 3.25 (which is top half for sure, prob top 40%) at a top 20 law school. I had a fairly good first semester, but my second semester dropped a bit (still trying to figure out what the hell happened). I'm working as a summer associate at a law firm this summer.

Anyhoo, I'm doing OCI as well as regional job fairs this fall.

(1) Should I contact law firms ahead of time in preparation for this?

(2) Do I have a good chance for a lot of these firms? Do they even look at the 1st semester grades for 2L year?

(3) Do they have this stuff wrapped up by a certain date (i.e. can I also apply later on in the year/do they monitor your progress)?

(4) If I don't get the 2L firm job I want (and continue where I'm at this summer) but show a marked improvement in the 2L year in terms of my grades, do firms still hire you after school? (E.g. let's say i wanted to work for Fish & Richardson but don't get offered for 2L summer, when they're recruiting at the beginning of 3L year, do people in my position still have a good chance or are hirings drawn solely from previous summer associates?).

Basically, am I screwed from getting a job I want even if I improve?

Thanks in advance.

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Transferring / Making law review at "old" school...
« on: May 21, 2008, 05:12:34 PM »
I've noticed in the database for transferapps some people noted making
law review at their old law school. I'm assuming they didn't know
until sometime in July. Is that something one should mention to the new
law school you're thinking about transferring to?

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Transferring / Re: What schools are transfer friendly?
« on: May 19, 2008, 03:27:34 PM »
what about if you're in a tier 1 school around top 20 (as in emory, minnesota, BU, GW, Wash U)? I'm within the top 20% of my class. What are my chances at transferring to say Michigan, Northwestern, UChicago, NYU, Columbia, Berkeley or Georgetown? (I'm not necessarily interested in all these schools, just want to have some idea). I have good recs, including from my internship at Dept of Justice before I began, if that makes a difference. Thanks in advance.

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I got into a 1L diversity clerkship program that guarantees me a job for the summer (I have a 2nd round of interviews with law firms and employers the likes of which include Dorsey & Whitney and Medtronic). However, one of my connections back home got me an interview with a Federal District Court Judge (Western New York, where I live) and there is a strong possibility he may offer me the opportunity to intern with him during the summer (he already expressed an inclination at least). Before I interview with the judge this week, I had several concerns:

(1) If I could only choose one, is working for a law firm or interning with the judge a better option as a 1L? (I've been told 1L jobs can be pretty lame and unfulfilling. Granted I do get paid, that isn't an overriding concern. (FYI, I interned at the DOJ as an undergrad so I had something to write about beforehand)

(2) I have considered trying to see if certain firms I am interviewing with might entertain a split summer and then possibly do the 2nd half with the judge. Is this a good idea to even entertain? WOuld I be better off just sticking with one or the other for 10-12 weeks?

(3) What exactly do judicial interns do? I know that clerks are the real people judges consult in writing and researching opinions, but will I be doing anything substantive? Will future employers look more strongly on one experience over the other?

Thanks in advance.

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