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Current Law Students / Re: Dual Degrees
« on: June 23, 2008, 11:48:38 AM »
Why did you post this twice under two different headinga???

anyways, I recommend you look up the threads on here about JD/MBA joint degrees....I imagine it is largely the same but suspect a MGA might hold even less weight than an MBA would since you almost never need an advanced degree in government/polisci to do law work for the government

Current Law Students / Re: Should I drop out?
« on: June 23, 2008, 11:31:02 AM »
I guess it depends how much you like the law. That is always my ultimate answer to questions like these. A lot of people here are going to tell you to just give up because you are already screwed because you come from a T3.... Ignore them. They just like to crap all over everyone else no matter what,most of the time just to make up for their own inadequacies.

Again, the issue is how much you value law school and a legal education. Do you value it more than the debt etc. you will incur? i.e. do the benefits outweigh the costs? I don't know what you can do given your poor undergrad GPA but your high LSAT shows you have at least the right aptitude for law school. I am surprised that you have the option to continue with a 1.98 though; my T-3 school fails you out if you get below a 2.0. Regardless, your GPA I imagine puts you at a huge disadvantage for masters etc in poli sci or some related field. I personally had the exact opposite problem: a really high GPA but mediocre LSATs (for a variety of reasons).

The school wouldn't have given you the scholarship though based only on a test score. They must have thought you could do it. Perhaps just your studying method was inefficient, cumbersome, or otherwise deficient. Ultimately though, whether to continue must rely on your OWN cost-benefit analysis, not what anyone here might say. If you think you can bring up your GPA etc then consider that as a factor but if you don't think you can, also consider that.

Good points all around....

I propose a hybrid.

1. Build the wall (yes, expensive but I'm sure a fraction of just the daily cost of operations in say put it in perspective).

2. Give the border patrol the equipment/people/authority to do their job. UAVs, more personnel, etc. Maybe even have Guard units augment.

3. Institute reformed legal immigration rules.

4. Institute a national ID. Yes, I know all the conspiracy theories, and I'm a libertarian...I know the arguments. In my opinion it is a necessary program in our day in age. A general database of who is who. Nothing more. I don't have a problem with that, as long as it doesnt track anything else.

I think it's unrealistic to think we can round up and kick out so many people from our country. Like it or not they are an important part of our economy and society. Yes, our society too. There will be so many 'humanity' cases if we were to round them up and get them out it, would make our heads spin. Which leads me to:

4. Once our borders are 'secure', our immigration policy more realistic, amnesty everyone...start all over. The illegals become legal, we collect taxes on their labor, all the gray areas disappear. We can absorb those numbers, we already have them.

All these factors combined should allow us to more effeciently control immigration, legal or otherwise.

Securing our borders, being able to quickly and accurately distingush citizens and non-citizens, along with a strong and realistic policy/law to me are absoloute musts for anything to work.

I agree with what you said, especially in regards to the National ID system. However, I am just curious how #4 will be different from what we did in the 80's which clearly didn't work.... perhaps the difference though is the wall put up etc. I would be ok with this solution you put forward.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Liberty, Regent or Ave Maria
« on: June 02, 2008, 09:45:27 AM »
Dont know much about those schools but might want to look into going to George Mason... not religious but pretty conservative and high ranked... I thought about going there myself for a while... even got an invitation to apply... too bad its far away so i decided against it

Current Law Students / Re: What are you taking in the fall?
« on: June 01, 2008, 06:49:59 PM »

Advanced Contracts (Multi-party transactions, surety etc.)
Federal Income Tax
Trusts and Estates
International Business (MBA class)
Business Management and the Law (MBA class)

Spring (tenative):

Business Organizations (Corporations)
Commercial Law
2 MBA classes

Current Law Students / Re: Anyone doing Dual MBA JD degrees?
« on: June 01, 2008, 05:43:11 PM »
I agree.. I am doing it because I figure for only one more year of school, I essentially double the job market available for myself. Say I graduate from law school and end up not like being a lawyer (dont think it will happen but anything is possible) then I can go into business and use the MBA for it.

I like that it gives me more flexability in future careers. Also it would let me better understand my clients (since i plan to go into business law), be better positioned to possibly open my own office someday, etc.

Current Law Students / Re: 2L Course Selection
« on: June 01, 2008, 05:34:55 PM »
Well my school requires 4 of the 6 "core classes" they have for the second year. They are Income Tax, Administrative Law, Evidence, Business Organizations (Corporations), Trusts and Estates, and Commercial Law. One of the four must be either tax or commercial law.

Since you are looking for international, I would recommend any of those and international law.
Probably, the best idea would be Evidence, Administrative Law, Commercial, and International

but I am a soon to be 2L so heck if I know

I am planning on taking all 6 core classes before I graduate, especially since some are on the bar

One of the leaders of the violent Weather Underground group that is responsible for terrible attacks on innocent people who has NEVER disassociated herself from their criminal activities is now a teacher at Northwestern University School of Law.  Her name is Bernardine Dohrn.  The fact that she is allowed to teach ANYWHERE is a travesty of our justice system.

yup... and two others are bigtime friends/ supporters from Illinois of Barack Obama..... only the left would pick someone so unexperienced and with such a spotty background to lead during a time of world war and economic difficulty... dont get me wrong, he is clearly intelligent and a great orator but president? Come on.... heck, the guy only won his one term senate seat because he was running against an outed sex pervert then against Alan Keyes who wasn't even from the state or from what I heard, really even campaigned.

Current Law Students / Re: Bad First Semester, What Now?
« on: May 27, 2008, 12:09:00 PM »
I scored considerably high on the lsat and did well in UG and studied my ass off for finals and I still seem to be the dumbest in all my classes:

Property: C-
Con Law: B
Contracts: C+

Don't forget Fall Semester:
Torts: B-
Civil Procedure: C+
Criminal Law: C+

At this point I really don't know what I am doing wrong. I don't know if this is just the most I am capable of or what.

My school is ranked 30; where do Tier 3 and 4 students work?  I am wondering if I will find success in that area.

Please keep the taunting and rude comments to a minimum, as my feelings are already bruised enough and I am fragile at this point.

I won't insult you even though i find it a tad demeaning your idea that you can get the best of what tier 3 or tier 4 school students can get even if they are at the top of their class.... I know that students from lower ranked schools are less likely to get jobs at the big firms etc. but I highly doubt that a C/C+ student from a higher ranked school would have as many opportunities as someone who goes to a lower ranked school but has a 4.0 GPA, law review, etc. Granted I am neither of those, but I just dont appreciate your view of lower ranked schools which seems to be in line with many other views on this board.

Regardless, someone has to be near the bottom of the class but just consider you are only 1/3 of the way done and many things could happen to push you up. I think the ultimate issue of whether you should continue in or not should be based on whether you like it. If you find it dull then you will do badly and are probably meant to do something else. IF you find the material interesting, then keep pushing along regardless of your grades.

I agree that you should network as much as you can and try to get involved with extracurriculars that would bump you up a little..... as far as summer jobs, might want to start with trying to work for the government since (at least from what I have heard) they care less about grades than private sector jobs. If you start working for the govt. now and get some contacts, etc. it will probably help you in the long run.

Also, it didn't really help me too much (seems like the cd version only bumped my grades up half a grade but still...) might look into LEEWS as a guide


Thanks for your response.  As for the bolded, my apologies.  I didn't realize how much of an a-hole i probably sound like.  I guess what i meant is that many of the employers I have been looking at are all from similar schools and I am not sure what firms or opportunities other schools go out understanding is that most times they go to smaller markets that are less competitive...

nah don't worry about it... im sure you didnt mean harm.... im just all around tired of how this board views lower tiered schools and took it out on you... sorry about that

Current Law Students / Re: serious advice only
« on: May 27, 2008, 05:04:38 AM »
If you haven't already, might want to look into getting a health care compliance certificate which usualy requires JD and MBA classes. Seems like a good option given your past in medicine and should bump your salary up some. Also, since some lawyers do it, you would be doing some of the same work as a lawyer but without the degree.... just a thought anyways

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