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Current Law Students / Re: Character and Fitness
« on: April 05, 2008, 04:25:35 PM »
That does look suspicious, but not as suspicious as if you try to hide it.  Generally, you disclose it all and be prepared to answer questions.  I think trying to hide it carries more risk.

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Current Law Students / Re: State with "Easiest" Bar Exam
« on: March 09, 2008, 12:56:24 PM »
ABA Student Lawyer just posted Bar Exam pass rates for all states.  Michigan had the highest First Time Taker and Highest Cumulative pass rates of all states.  I don't know if it is the easiest, but you can't argue w/those odds.

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Current Law Students / Re: pls, can you help me to understand word "express condition"???
« on: March 07, 2008, 05:50:50 AM »
hehe


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Current Law Students / Re: Why can't I find a job?
« on: March 07, 2008, 05:46:06 AM »
I don't think it has to do w/ risk adverse, snow-balling, or you being unqualified.  I think the key is that firms higher in cycles or by need.  You missed the cycle.  Therefore, you are relying on catching a firm in need.  Which means the only decent advice on here is xferlawstudent's "Keep your head up and send out more resumes and network as much as possible."  It would not be uncommon for someone in you position to get a handful of offers after your bar results, between now and then, you just need to expand your search.

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Current Law Students / Re: MPRE EXAM THIS SATURDAY!
« on: March 05, 2008, 02:30:45 PM »
I was getting like 50 of 60 on practice BarBri.  Scored 141.  Not sure how many I got right on real exam.  I think the BarBri video said mid 30's is needed on average to get an 85 (score I needed), because it is a curved score.  I studied about 25hrs for it, and in hindsight probably 15 hrs is plenty if you did decent in PR.  If you were below the curve in your PR class, then I would suggest more studying.

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Job Search / Re: Job offer but pay is low...should I counter?
« on: March 04, 2008, 06:31:16 PM »
Quote from: Peaches on March 04, 2008, 06:21:04 PM
It's not chance that I've gotten an offer at every single callback I've gone on.  (I've gotten the offers within at least 3-4 business days of the interview.  I know that's not true for everyone, but if you were their first choice you'd probably know by now.)  And included in that judgment is thinking you're hot *&^% out of the T4. 

Hell yes! Those T4's that think they are such "hot sh-t," I mean come on!  So, obnoxious, right?

Only thing worse are those people that will never love anyone more than themselves.  Peaches, I bet you can't help but make out with a mirror - irresistible!  mmmmm-tongue-mmmm smoochy smoochy mmmmm - peachy i luv u - mmmmm

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Job Search / Re: Job offer but pay is low...should I counter?
« on: March 04, 2008, 06:16:05 PM »
Quote from: GoGoPogo on March 04, 2008, 05:40:57 PM
Quote from: sir_scott on March 04, 2008, 05:35:33 PM


I still want to make a counter just because I know that a few of the positions I have lined up pay atleast 12-15 per hour and I think one of those will pan out.


After hearing all the wisdom of your peers, I still think that is the right move.  I think it can be done with tact.  And, I think it can be done without conditioning acceptance of employment on the add'l $5/hr.  That is, "I accept, but how do you feel about $15/hr."  They may counter w/ $12/hr, in which case you are better off. 

From the firm's perspective: 
Paying you $15 is still a deal over the prior paralegal, especially if they are investing in your future, and acquiring someone w/your Spanish skills.



You think $15 is a deal for the firm to get a T4 grad when there are countless other T2,3,4 people without jobs? Even in this thread, people are complaining that they are either finding no work or taking unpaid things.

Honestly, I think if OP asks for a 50% raise, they will shoot him down.

That would be like me calling the firm I'm going to be working for this summer and telling them that $2,600/week isn't enough, I need $3,900 or else! Preposterous.

The only problem with your analogical reasoning is that, well, your analogy is retarded.

The guy is worth more than $400/week w/out any legal education, w/out being a future associate with the firm.

And, why are you so preoccupied w/getting the guy to be soooo grateful for $10/hr - that is poverty, literally. 

He has a marketable skill w/ his Spanish and has a B.A.

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Job Search / Re: Job offer but pay is low...should I counter?
« on: March 04, 2008, 05:35:33 PM »


I still want to make a counter just because I know that a few of the positions I have lined up pay atleast 12-15 per hour and I think one of those will pan out.


After hearing all the wisdom of your peers, I still think that is the right move.  I think it can be done with tact.  And, I think it can be done without conditioning acceptance of employment on the add'l $5/hr.  That is, "I accept, but how do you feel about $15/hr."  They may counter w/ $12/hr, in which case you are better off. 

From the firm's perspective: 
Paying you $15 is still a deal over the prior paralegal, especially if they are investing in your future, and acquiring someone w/your Spanish skills.


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Job Search / Re: Job offer but pay is low...should I counter?
« on: March 04, 2008, 02:32:21 PM »
Ask for $15/hr.  But don't make it threatening. 

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Current Law Students / Re: It's March and I'm Jobless: Too late for 2L summer associate positions?
« on: March 03, 2008, 06:23:35 AM »
Kind of surprising that you don't have a gig w/those stats.  On the one hand it seems late for a 2L looking for SA work, but on the other hand  you have nothing to loose (time, effort, and postage).

How many resumes did you send out?  And when?

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