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Law School Admissions / Re: Georgetown part-time law
« on: April 04, 2010, 01:38:25 PM »
In the first year, you have class just about every evening, usually from 5:45 to 7:45 p.m. Some students commute from Baltimore, but that means you get home pretty late.  There are no weekend classes for first year.  There are a few upperclass courses that meet on weekends, but the vast majority do not.

Job Search / Re: dinner question
« on: August 31, 2008, 03:20:09 PM »
It's perfectly fine to order alcohol at dinner (as long as you limit to one drink). Alcohol at lunch, on the other hand, is a big no-no.

I think dinner/lunch is one of the most important parts of the interview.

Well, then, hopefully my drink order wasn't too gasp-worthy. also, i didn't drink the whole thing. sigh, someone make me feel better. i really wanna work at this place.

Job Search / Re: GULC OCI
« on: August 31, 2008, 01:37:03 PM »
Not bad at all. I know people well below the median who have biglaw callbacks.

I'm a bit too identifiable to make it wise to post all my dings/call backs

I will say that it is very good to be done and I'm pleased with my results so far 8)

That was like finals week squared.

Good to hear that GULC's placement isn't that bad, after all.  Now go forth and combat the anti-GULC trolls.   8)

Job Search / Re: GULC OCI
« on: August 31, 2008, 09:28:00 AM »
Are some cities faster to get back to you?  It seems like most people have heard back from NYC firms, but mot from Midwest or West Coast firms. 

My sense is that NYC and DC firms get back to you sooner than firms that are further away. I'm only applying to NYC firms, but my friends who applied in DC also have heard back. My friends who are looking at LA and SF are still waiting.

Job Search / Re: GULC OCI
« on: August 31, 2008, 06:01:58 AM »
for the ones that matter . . .

dings- white & case, bingham

callbacks - mwe, baker m, sasmf, mayer, willkie, jones day

Were these callbacks and dings for dc, ny, or some other market?

For me, so far callbacks - all ny - from dpw, skadden, sull crom, jones day. no dings yet. waiting on five more.

Current Law Students / Re: Advice on succeeding Torts??
« on: October 17, 2007, 07:02:34 AM »
Who is your prof? Feel free to PM me (I go to GULC too).

Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.

There's so much in this class that it's hard for me to see the forest from the trees and discern what I NEED to know from the details.

The ABA publishes a thin book called "The ABC's of the UCC." This was tremendously helpful. It translates all of the important provisions into English.

This may vary by school, but at my school, students with outstanding participation may receive a one-step bump in their grade if they are near the margin. So a high B+ may become an A-. One professor said he typically does this for 5-10 students in a 120-student class.
I've heard stories of students who are perpetually unprepared getting their grades reduced, but I think it's less frequent.
Seminars may weigh participation more.

So it's my first week and I am being assigned like 8-9 cases a night to brief. Should I actually be doing that though? It takes like all day to brief that many cases and after that, I have no time for anything else. Most of my professors claim that participation will affect our grades though.

Current Law Students / Re: Should I write my own outlines?
« on: August 19, 2007, 12:06:17 PM »
Definitely make your own outline. You'll really learn the material that way, even though it can be tedious. I like to do it at the end of every week, synthesizing class notes, materials from cases, hornbooks, and, if necessary, commercial outlines. It helps to do it ever week, because then you'll have your outline completed at the end of the semester and you can spend that precious time using your outline on old exams and revising it where necessary.

Most professors will not suggest study aids. In fact, most will recommend against using them. My CivPro professor actually suggested we use the E&E, but I think he's an exception. Most think the case method is all you need. The one thing to caution about supplements is that they sometimes use different terminology than your professor. And they also may give more weight to a minority view than your professor does. Bottom line: supplements are good and often essential for grasping concepts, but your class notes matter most. If there's a conflict between what your prof says and what your supplement says, go with the prof. That's why it helps if you can get a hornbook or commercial outline written by the same author who edited your casebook. That minimizes the confusion, since the terminology and points of view are more likely to be the same.


Holy crap, some of this stuff (such as these aids) I've never even heard of. Is this stuff we pick up and learn about as we begin 1L?

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