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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Michigan vs. Northwestern
« on: July 07, 2006, 08:04:01 PM »
I think Michigan is a no brainer here unless there is some nice $$$ coming from NW. If you look at the most prestigious law firms, you will see many more Mich grads than NW. Regradless of whether BigLaw is the direction you want to go, this says something about the overall rep of a school. In my opinion Mich and UVA round out the "super national reputation" list. NW, while obviously a great law school, does not have the national name recognition as Mich.

Disclosure: the UM stands for Miami not Michigan.

lololol, you'll also see a lot more gulc grads than yale grads.  gulc surely must be better.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Michigan vs. Northwestern
« on: June 29, 2006, 08:27:48 AM »
I have a friend who just graduated from NU.  He thought it was a great education, very competent school and faculty.  But he didn't fit in with the student body.  Found them to be very homogenous; relatively young, conservative and well off. He started law school in his early thirties, and is a very liberal democrat.  He had worked as a teacher before going back to school.  He felt very out of place.  He'd show up at social events dressed casually, and the other guys would be wearing ties.

So there's my take - for someone else, this description might be a positive. 

lololol, *beep, beep, beep, beep* (bull detector goes off)

NU is generally considered one of the most laid-back schools in the T14.

btw- east_meets_west had it absolutely right.  neither nu nor umich is the power it was 50 years ago (umich used to be top 3 with HY, nu used to be top 5 with HYMC); they're both obvious bottom-half t14 schools.  consider factors like how well you think you'd "fit" in with the area and stuff.  i know nu does better with firms, while umich might be better with clerkships/academia, so consider the route you want to take after school.

but for anybody to argue either school is much better than the other, or that one  "definitely" has more prestige, is ludicrous.

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I picked NU over umich, but that was in large part because I was sick of Ann Arbor after 4+ years there.

As long as you're not bottom of the class and not a social reject (can interview), you should be fine at either school for a biglaw/market job.  Fed. Clerkship numbers per capita are about the same.  Placement depends on the market, though in most markets they'll be about equal.

See if you might not be able to get a slightly reduced scholarship and have the option of attending NU this year.  I know people last year were offered the option of not waiting but getting a slightly smaller scholarship offer.

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Law School Rankings / Re: UVA vs Northwestern...?
« on: March 09, 2006, 02:50:15 AM »
outstanding job, burghblast.

all i have to say is that NU would be perfect for you.  you would have a fantastic time and self-actualize while here.

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Law School Rankings / Re: UVA vs Northwestern...?
« on: February 21, 2006, 09:24:29 PM »

point taken ;)

been spending too much time at xoxo methinks.

cool.  good luck at cls next year!

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Law School Rankings / Re: UVA vs Northwestern...?
« on: February 21, 2006, 02:35:39 AM »
note that it said "the year of their 18th bday", meaning the bday could be anytime 1jan-31dec.  assuming a june 1 graduation date and equal distribution, the average age at graduation would be about 17.4 [17 years + (5 months passed thru may / 12 months in a year).  hopefully you do better than this at cls.

but more accurately, the general rule of thumb is that a child should be 5 years of age when they start kindergarten; though the cutoff date can range between states/munis.

http://users.stargate.net/~cokids/kindergarten_cut-off_dates.htm

seems like sept 1st is a pretty common date.  if these children are 5 years old at the start of K, then they are 6 at the start of 1st grade, and so on.  they are 17 years old at the start of senior year.  assuming equal distribution across the year and a june 1 graduation, a more appropriate number might have been 17.75 [17 + (9 mos. sept thru june / 12 months per year)]  however, with dates more often coming later than 1sept than before it (including california and NY, 2 of the most populous states, which with late nov/early dec start dates would be right at 1june, meaning an unadjusted avg. at right around 17.5), it is likely the actual number is lower than that 21.75.  i'd venture to put it around 17.6, perhaps even slightly lower.

i also think that our sample group is comprised of t14 acceptees, not your average student.  these people (particularly at a numbers-heavy school like NU) are more likely to have skipped a grade, started early, or finished school a semester or two early than their not quite as gifted counterparts.  is this enough, coupled with the later start dates, to push it down to 17.5 (or, later, 21.5)?  who knows, but it's probably damned close, and maybe even below it.

normally i wouldn't waste the effort, but you deserve a giant @#!* you for being such an arrogant a-hole here and such a sarcastic prick in the thread where you bombed on burgh, who i know IRL and who is a great guy.

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Law School Rankings / Re: UVA vs Northwestern...?
« on: February 21, 2006, 01:55:41 AM »
Well, of course very few would be 21, seeing as almost all college grads are at least 22.

From NU's most recent class:
1 year or more: 94%
2 years or more: 74%

So only about 6% came straight out of college.  Compare that to 30%+ at Harvard, Columbia, NYU, etc.  I'd say that's a pretty big difference.

Most people graduate college at 21 or 22, so let's just say 21.5 for the sake of this.

6% of the class is (presumably) 21.5 or less
26% is presumably 22.5 or less

there's over a quarter of the class.

most people have two (and sometimes three) years work experience.  These people would be 23.5 and 24.5, hardly the class of late 20 and 30 somethings so many people imagine.

in fact, going here, i would wager that at least 70%+ of the 1L class was 24 years of age or less upon matriculation.

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Law School Rankings / Re: UVA vs Northwestern...?
« on: February 20, 2006, 07:41:46 PM »
lol at the 27+ comment about NU.

has that misconception not been killed yet?

anyway, chicago is actually pretty balanced.  the posner/epstein types are pretty well balanced out by the sunstein/nussbaum types, and if you want to do big things UofC is by far the best option you have so far.  Good luck

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Comparing Northwestern and U Chicago
« on: February 20, 2006, 07:38:23 PM »
I am telling Prof. B that you wrote that, burgh.

I am also at NU, was also in a CLR class with group work, and I had the "no lower than an A- on any paper but still get a grade in the B-range" problem.

It's my understanding that the particular prof burgh has is on the verge of being let go, though.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: US News Ranking 2007 Predictions
« on: February 18, 2006, 02:21:04 AM »
Yeah, but good state-affiliated professional schools (UVA, Texas, etc.) tend to have fat endowments and deregulated tuition, which takes state support almost out of the equation.
Texas troll

Yes, I happen to hold the law school at my state's flagship university in high esteem, as do many people in the legal profession. Regardless, my point about endowments at state-affiliated law schools insulating them from the whimsy of legislators stands.

To put Texas rather than Mich and Boalt isn't defensible on any level

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