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2L job search / Re: Post Call-Back: How are you notified?
« on: September 26, 2007, 07:35:06 PM »
Wow!  Congratulations!  Good to know!

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2L job search / Re: Holding pattern after a callback?????
« on: September 21, 2007, 04:19:56 PM »
:'(  I'm in the same situation.  Sucks big time, I just want my ding letter already, it's very apparent that I'm not getting the phone call. 

Im not checking my mail, at least not till my cable is shut off.   they cant ding me until i let them. :)

anyone that doesnt get offers want to start a firm?  I am not very selective in who I work with...

What? a bunch of TTT rejects starting their own firm???  I would rather pay for legal advice from my cat than to seek service from your firm. 

I take solace in knowing that you're a miserable person with a miserable personality lurking in these posts because you need to feel good about yourself.  Apparently the "TTT" people are providing you that comfort during your lonely nights.  Weird that you assume we're TTTs, but that's irrelevant. 

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2L job search / Re: Callback Interviews - Meals
« on: September 20, 2007, 11:40:46 AM »
I had two morning interviews - 10:00 a.m.  Met with 5 people at each.  No lunch.  It was more of an escort from atty to atty and I was done by 11:30 a.m. with only my escort.

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2L job search / Re: Holding pattern after a callback?????
« on: September 19, 2007, 09:11:15 PM »
 :'(  I'm in the same situation.  Sucks big time, I just want my ding letter already, it's very apparent that I'm not getting the phone call. 

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2L job search / Re: Post Call-Back: How are you notified?
« on: September 18, 2007, 04:37:17 PM »
hmmmm...thanks for your response.  I hate this waiting game.

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2L job search / Post Call-Back: How are you notified?
« on: September 18, 2007, 04:16:58 PM »
So, I had my first call back last Monday and they told me that the hiring committee meets on Mondays (just not last monday) so I would know by this Friday.

No phone call = no offer, right?

Do they call to make an offer?  I got a call back offer in the mail, so is it crazy to think that maybe...just maybe...there will be an offer in the mail?  Or, should I just come to terms and realize that the letter in the mail is just a ding?

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Civi Pro & BARBRI
« on: September 17, 2007, 09:44:13 AM »
She could have been referring to either:

1.  The outline in the 1L outline book that you get when you put down a deposit and lock-in your rate for Bar/Bri; or,

2.  There is a video that recaps civ pro that used to be shown at the end of the semester as a recap, but will now be available to view online.

HTH

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: RUTGERS CAMDEN STUDENTS PROPERTY LAW
« on: September 17, 2007, 09:41:14 AM »
I don't know if he taught Property last semester (or year).  I took Lastowka and found both the property and future interest flashcards very helpful.

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2L job search / Re: OCI screening interviews
« on: September 17, 2007, 09:24:16 AM »
My first year, I mailed them and felt like I didn't leave a connection for a response.  This year, I e-mailed my thank yous.  I also wondered if it was worth it, and maybe it's not.  But, like my husband says, it could only help you.  I mean, really, a few minutes of your time for the 20-30 minutes they spent with you.  If they ignore it, so what.  If they expect it, then you're in trouble if you didn't send it.  It also gives you an opportunity to spark their memory.  Good luck!

Oh, I got 1 call back before my thank you went through (what's up with the mailed call-back letters?).  no offers, though.

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Law Firms / Re: Do big firms hire from their support staff??
« on: August 28, 2005, 01:10:28 AM »
SFGirl:

Here's what I know from experience. 

The new attorney in our office was the Office Manager/Legal Assistant at a law firm of 3 attorneys (2 partners, big cases - small town)for 5 years.  She decided after year one to go to night school at the local law school (we don't have an ABA accredited one here, but the local one is locally respected).  Two months before she graduated, they hired another attorney.  Six months before she graduated, she had asked for two months of leave so she could study for her Bar.  They said, "no, sorry, we'd rather just fill your position at that point".  They later stated (shortly after hiring new atty) that they really didn't have room for another atty b/c they just hired one.  So, she went off in search for another job with three letters of recommendation from the firm.

She landed in our office because one of the partners was opposing counsel in one of our cases.  The sole practitioner (my boss) was in a depo and casually mentioned that his associates had recently left.  Partner said, "hey, I know the perfect person who just took the bar but it will be three months before she finds out if she passed".  There was also discussion of not hiring her on because she had worked there for 5 years, it would be hard not to have the "assistant expectations" from her even as an atty.  In other words, in their eyes, she would still be support staff with a law degree.

Now, as I work for both of them now, I talk with process servers and court clerks who recognize her name and always have good things to say about her and how happy they are that she is an atty (yes, she passed the bar).  During the five years of paralegaling, she mangaged to gain a good reputation here.  Her prior bosses put in great words for her as she searched and she acquired a job as a result of it.

Now, my boss has discussed my staying at the firm in exchange for tuition if I go to night school.  I think that's a completely different situation.

I think it's important to make contacts but not to have expectations from your current employer b/c it is always possible that you will never be looked at as an "attorney" at the firm.

I think it's possible to be offered a job but, as my current boss says, "you're very marketable because you don't need your own assistant to type or draft pleadings.  You are a package deal." 

My thoughts on the whole "package deal" is that it could be a trap.  As an assistant, I'm already super busy.  I can't imagine lawyering and doing my job.

Just some things to think about.

p.s.  you are not a loser by going to night school.  The atty I referenced has no student loans and has a cushy atty's salary now and works 7 hour days mon-fri.


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