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Haven't logged in a long time, and to my surprise, something addressed to me?! Wow.

First, clarification: I am part of the class of 2010.
Second: I'm not exactly typical, even for a Canadian. So my experience is different.
Third: you may not even care anymore about the answers.

That said, I'll still have a shot at this.

"What distinctions were there between you and your classmates if any, as you progressed through the law school journey as a Canadian?"
 - Not much. Really. Except in Constitutional law, I would get called on as 'the expert on Canada', and also, interestingly enough, the expert on France and Europe. Apart from that, people don't care that much. Really.

"first summer work and what possibilities were available to you (between 1L and 2L"
 - Very different from anyone else. You can work; just get the OPT (sign up for it in January ... it takes about 3 months). My personal experience: couldn't get a firm job, since I'm older and over-qualified. Really. Scary, in fact, but what firms were looking for is cannon fodder. Or people to make coffee.

"the interview process (especially how firms responded to you being a Canadian, and what they were looking for from you that would cause them to hire you over an American)"
 - Firms don't care. And technically, they cannot even ask about nationality; only about 'are you legally allowed to work in the US'. They didn't look for anything special or particular.

"(do you still pay Canadian taxes, and does your visa restrict you?)"
No. If you don't spend 6 months in Canada, you don't pay taxes there, or so is my understanding.

Now for the juicy question:"intership outcomes (between 2L and 3L)"
Bare with me here ... this has nothing to do with nationality, but you need to know this: THE MARKET IS HORRIBLE. So, as you're working your way through 1L year, keep this in mind: you will not get a firm job as a 1L. Forget it. Not gonna happen. Don't waste your time, don't drop 100 resumes in the mail on Dec 1st like I did. I got nothing even when the economy was decent.

So hear this ... get a judicial internship, or work for some non profit, or anything more glamorous then working for a professor on campus. Can't stress that enough. It will be a rat race this summer and even worse next September to get a firm job. You need to show something interesting on your resume.

One issue you may want to consider also ... try to develop ties to where you are, or to where you aspire to be. Firms care an awful lot about 'ties to the city'. Some cities more than others (Philadelphia, for one), with New York the only exception. So if you want to practice in Boston, join the Boston society of something or other. If you want to practice in your local market, join  some organization, some group, anything ... It will help.

Best of luck, and ask if you want to know anything more.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: March 31, 2008, 11:43:54 AM »
  Definitely bought an obscene amount of PennLaw swag

Congratulations on your decision to attend this fine institution. But for the record, SWAG stands for Stuff We All Get. If you buy it, it ain't SWAG.

Canadian Law Students / Re: Future Job Prospects for Canucks in the US
« on: March 13, 2008, 12:21:47 PM »
Seeing as the treaty will be negotiated between attorneys and economists, I would bet that of all the jobs in the list (which include apiculturists and epidemiologists, among other stranger things), attorney and economist are the likeliest 2 to stay in the list. Don't worry.

Canadian Law Students / Re: Canadian financial aid options
« on: November 12, 2007, 10:55:51 AM »
Any idea which institutions are usually good about this?

Can't say that I do. I know of only Penn and Harvard. A quick call/e-mail to the right person might give you that info.

As for need-based: I wouldn't discount the possibility. Schools are quite aware of their price tags, and they really want you to attend, presumably. There is of course the implied expectation that generosity will be reciprocated in kind, later on. But some may be more explicit than this and make you sign a promissory note. It's still a loan, but it's one you can actually get. Worth asking about as well.

Canadian Law Students / Re: Canadian financial aid options
« on: October 16, 2007, 06:37:59 PM »
Currently at Penn - they gave me some money  :)
The rest is from savings (significant amount) and a line of credit from BMO. This was a special deal, on account of my situation and parents' longstanding history with them. So I can't help much, except to say that I've tried BMO, Banque Royale, Banque Nationale, TD and Scotia. Nothing. And CanHelp really, really sucks. Let me make that clear. They suck. Do you get the essence of the message here, which is that they suck? The best options are a) parents, and b)financial help from the institution. Many of them will help you out. I'm actually receiving need-based, not merit-based. The good universities are usually aware now of the problems non-US students are facing, so talk to the fin aid people early.

The sad raelity is that none of Philadelphia is completely safe. But downtown is actually safer than West Philly. Early morning is fine, adn don't stay out too late.

Since walking distance is a very flexible term, I'm going to suggest you look at things downtown, using one or the other of those famous websites for hotels. A short bus ride or a 10-15 minute walk is enough to reach campus from there. The prices should be more reasonable.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Pennsylvania Class of 2010
« on: August 13, 2007, 02:49:30 PM »
I'll be leaving SF on Friday or Saturday, getting there on the 25th.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Pennsylvania Class of 2010
« on: August 13, 2007, 02:35:16 PM »
Or, better yet, since the bookstore website is down 'to better serve the students': log on to Goat, course portal, textbook lists.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Pennsylvania Class of 2010
« on: August 13, 2007, 02:26:09 PM »
You can kind-a sort-a check what books will be required for each section by looking up the website for the bookstore. Just enter Dept=Law, and Class=501 and section=001 (or something like that). It will show you the titles for that class.

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