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Applying to Law School => Law School Admissions => Topic started by: Hammerstein on January 04, 2008, 02:19:12 PM

Title: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 04, 2008, 02:19:12 PM
Just wanted to start a thread for everyone who applied to CLS RD early and is expecting a decision in the next three to four weeks!

Best of luck to everyone.  Let's keep this alive until then :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: ghil04 on January 04, 2008, 02:31:51 PM
I just got an email from the associate dir. of admissions asking me to clarify something on my resume.  UMich asked about the same discrepancy so hopefully my explanation helps. 

Anyways, this is nuts - I was hoping to hear back sooner but it looks like most of us won't find out until the end of the month.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on January 04, 2008, 02:34:07 PM
Does Oct. 24th count as early? If so, count me in.

NYU/CLS are my top choices. Now that I got into NYU, I would be perfectly fine with being rejected everywhere else. Ok, that would hurt my ego a little, but you get my point. I just worry that if I some how manage to get into Columbia too, I'm going to have an impossible decision to make.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: CLS Troll v2.0 on January 04, 2008, 02:35:57 PM
Does Oct. 24th count as early? If so, count me in.

NYU/CLS are my top choices. Now that I got into NYU, I would be perfectly fine with being rejected everywhere else. Ok, that would hurt my ego a little, but you get my point. I just worry that if I some how manage to get into Columbia too, I'm going to have an impossible a really easy decision to make (CLS) decision to make.

fixt  ;)

Good luck to all of you.  I think that the acceptances start rolling out in mid-late January.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on January 04, 2008, 02:40:12 PM
Does Oct. 24th count as early? If so, count me in.

NYU/CLS are my top choices. Now that I got into NYU, I would be perfectly fine with being rejected everywhere else. Ok, that would hurt my ego a little, but you get my point. I just worry that if I some how manage to get into Columbia too, I'm going to have an impossible a really easy decision to make (CLS) decision to make.

fixt  ;)

Good luck to all of you.  I think that the acceptances start rolling out in mid-late January.

Haha. Well, if I'm lucky enough to have to make such a decision, I look forward to your trolling pushing me in the CLS direction.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 04, 2008, 03:14:45 PM
I'd like to think I can get in to CLS, but I'm feeling I've only a 50/50 chance. Wish I got a question or two more right on the LSAT...then I'd feel good :(

It's one of my top (realistic) choices, too...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: snap82 on January 04, 2008, 03:17:12 PM
I am anxiously awaiting a decision from CLS as well.  I miss New York a lot, and would love to go back for law school.  I also sat in on a Civil Procedure class at Columbia and dug it a lot.  C'mon Columbia...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: courtz1686 on January 04, 2008, 03:17:49 PM
I wouldn't worry too much, Hammerstein. Good luck, everyone!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: bohemian_revolution on January 04, 2008, 03:19:24 PM
tag
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 04, 2008, 03:21:37 PM
I am anxiously awaiting a decision from CLS as well.  I miss New York a lot, and would love to go back for law school.  I also sat in on a Civil Procedure class at Columbia and dug it a lot.  C'mon Columbia...

I'm starting to want to go back to NYC, also.  I'm really surprised -- I used to hate it, especially when I started going to college.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 08, 2008, 07:32:37 PM
Reviving this thread.  Anyone else hoping to hear from CLS in 18-25 days? :)

I know you're out there...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdr145 on January 09, 2008, 08:05:11 AM
I'd be cool with getting my rejection now rather than later...

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jaytex on January 09, 2008, 11:53:38 AM
I am anxiously awaiting a decision from CLS as well.  I miss New York a lot, and would love to go back for law school.  I also sat in on a Civil Procedure class at Columbia and dug it a lot.  C'mon Columbia...

I'm in the same boat. I sat in on a crim class -- really really impressive!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: neverborn on January 09, 2008, 12:07:41 PM
They demanded my fall grades. Gulp.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on January 09, 2008, 12:28:11 PM
They demanded my fall grades. Gulp.

I really hope they don't ask for mine.

Even if they do though, they wont be available until the end of the month...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 09, 2008, 05:20:12 PM
I wish they'd just hurry up.  I can handle a ding at the moment, but I won't be so good in two weeks.  At the moment, I accept my chances are 50/50 (at best), but it gets worse with every passing day.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: und3r3stimat3d on January 09, 2008, 06:06:41 PM
I wish they'd just hurry up.  I can handle a ding at the moment, but I won't be so good in two weeks.  At the moment, I accept my chances are 50/50 (at best), but it gets worse with every passing day.

Your chances are more like 75 percent. Good luck.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 09, 2008, 06:52:47 PM
Incidentially, for any fellow applicants out there, the CLS status checker isn't working tonight, as mentioned on TLS:  http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=389902#389902

So, if you log on it tomorrow and it is still broken, don't think they've incinerated your app  8)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdr145 on January 09, 2008, 06:54:12 PM
Incidentially, for any fellow applicants out there, the CLS status checker isn't working tonight, as mentioned on TLS:  http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=389902#389902

So, if you log on it tomorrow and it is still broken, don't think they've incinerated your app  8)

I didn't even know there was a status checker...

I clearly don't deserve to get in
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: gladiator on January 09, 2008, 08:01:09 PM
The only question for me is whether I'll be waitlisted or just rejected. I probably wouldn't have even applied if they didn't give me a fee waiver.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 09, 2008, 08:03:45 PM
Tag.

This thread is going to get very ugly come the end of this month. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: joebuddencirca03 on January 09, 2008, 08:25:59 PM
Tag.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on January 09, 2008, 08:42:27 PM
Tag.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 09, 2008, 08:47:21 PM
Why do all these tags leave such an ominous feel on the thread?  :-[
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: TallisUmbras on January 09, 2008, 09:41:08 PM
I signed up for the status checker but have never actually checked it. Playing it cool...



Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: TeresaPinfold on January 09, 2008, 09:43:15 PM
The decisions won't be until the 23rd (at least judging by the past two years when it was always the Wednesday of that week, the 23rd and the 24th)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: ghil04 on January 10, 2008, 10:04:01 AM
Wait a minute, status checker?  I didn't get one of those, wtf.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 10, 2008, 10:19:52 AM
Wait a minute, status checker?  I didn't get one of those, wtf.

No need for a password.  Just enter the appriopriate information here:  https://www-app.law.columbia.edu/webportal/preprocess/index.act?section=index-checkstatus-form

However, given what other people have said about it, I don't think it ever changes to "Decision."  Maybe I'm wrong there, but that's what I've heard.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: ghil04 on January 10, 2008, 10:30:24 AM
It looks like it's just a status checker to make sure your file is complete.  Funny that they wouldn't release this out to their applicants, though (or, at least, I wasn't notified of it).
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: und3r3stimat3d on January 10, 2008, 10:37:15 AM
Status checker works just fine now. Weird.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 10, 2008, 10:39:21 AM
Status checker works just fine now. Weird.

*laughs*  I just posted about that on TLS.  Was going to say that here in a minute.

Still the same old checker, though.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on January 11, 2008, 02:45:12 PM
Tag. Also just got on the status checker, and at the bottom it says something about only sending decisions by mail, not online.



I'll probably check it once a day anyway.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 11, 2008, 02:50:35 PM
Tag. Also just got on the status checker, and at the bottom it says something about only sending decisions by mail, not online.



I'll probably check it once a day anyway.

I think I mentioned this before, but I'm too lazy to check -- I don't really think that CLS updates the checker beyond "Complete."  I wish they did.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: CLS Troll v2.0 on January 11, 2008, 02:51:03 PM
Tag. Also just got on the status checker, and at the bottom it says something about only sending decisions by mail, not online.



I'll probably check it once a day anyway.

All acceptances are sent by mail, but at least some people, including yours truly, also received a .pdf file of the acceptance letter via email--though received after the paper copy arrived.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Sarahpi on January 11, 2008, 05:49:04 PM
I'm here too. Watching this thread to see when other people start hearing back- I went complete in November and CLS is my first choice.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 11, 2008, 06:45:36 PM
good luck to you all!

fwiw, i wouldn't depend on the status checker once you go complete...if it's the same as last year, it doesn't update to show that you have gone to decision (it stays at complete).
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Pam Beesly on January 14, 2008, 07:08:03 PM
Tag. Getting anxious!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 14, 2008, 07:35:25 PM
from what i remember, the next round of acceptances should come out sometime in the january 20's. 

though that was a couple of years back so maybe things have changed.

Looks about right according to LSN.  Mrrr...I'm terrified.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: legally_brunette on January 14, 2008, 08:51:16 PM
Ahhh... I so want to know already! I wish there was little more rhyme or reason to the order they gave out decisions. It looks like I'll just have to stalk the mailman from Jan.23-April
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 15, 2008, 05:04:28 AM
I just wanted to join the support thread.  While I think I'm an auto-reject at HYS, I have a marginal chance of being considered at CLS...so here I wait...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 15, 2008, 05:18:21 AM
Incidentially, for any fellow applicants out there, the CLS status checker isn't working tonight, as mentioned on TLS:  http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=389902#389902

So, if you log on it tomorrow and it is still broken, don't think they've incinerated your app  8)

I didn't even know there was a status checker...

I clearly don't deserve to get in

hello, friend.

all those hours obsessing over cls, i never realized there's a status checker? *gives self wedgie*
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 15, 2008, 07:11:42 AM
I just wanted to join the support thread.  While I think I'm an auto-reject at HYS, I have a marginal chance of being considered at CLS...so here I wait...

Bleh, somehow deleted the first half of my post the first time around.

I know how you feel.

Can I borrow an LSAT point? :(  Anyone?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 15, 2008, 07:15:56 AM
Hammerstein, I will trade you my LSAT points for your GPA points.  I'll be generous and only charge you a 1:1 ratio.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 15, 2008, 07:17:50 AM
This rejection is going to hurt the most.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 15, 2008, 07:33:59 AM
This rejection is going to hurt the most.

Double-most because if it happens, it'll be the first.  That's how I feel, at least.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: ghostface on January 15, 2008, 07:56:28 AM
Quick question.

Are ED deferrals reviewed later in the cycle? It seems LSN indicates that those that were deferred were notified in April? Is this typical?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 15, 2008, 02:45:56 PM
This rejection is going to hurt the most.

Double-most because if it happens, it'll be the first.  That's how I feel, at least.

seconded. well, also because i love cls  :'(
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: TeresaPinfold on January 15, 2008, 02:51:54 PM
Quick question.

Are ED deferrals reviewed later in the cycle? It seems LSN indicates that those that were deferred were notified in April? Is this typical?
It could just be explained by the fact that if you were deferred from ED, you must be a weak or borderline candidate, while early acceptances go to the strongest applicants.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 15, 2008, 02:58:30 PM
Quick question.

Are ED deferrals reviewed later in the cycle? It seems LSN indicates that those that were deferred were notified in April? Is this typical?
It could just be explained by the fact that if you were deferred from ED, you must be a weak or borderline candidate, while early acceptances go to the strongest applicants.

Dissssssssssssssss.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 15, 2008, 03:04:56 PM
Quick question.

Are ED deferrals reviewed later in the cycle? It seems LSN indicates that those that were deferred were notified in April? Is this typical?
It could just be explained by the fact that if you were deferred from ED, you must be a weak or borderline candidate, while early acceptances go to the strongest applicants.

oooh, cold. you sound like my dad, it's exactly what he told me about my chances at mich.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: courtz1686 on January 15, 2008, 03:15:50 PM
Quick question.

Are ED deferrals reviewed later in the cycle? It seems LSN indicates that those that were deferred were notified in April? Is this typical?
It could just be explained by the fact that if you were deferred from ED, you must be a weak or borderline candidate, while early acceptances go to the strongest applicants.

oooh, cold. you sound like my dad, it's exactly what he told me about my chances at mich.

Your dad's crazy.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 15, 2008, 03:19:31 PM
Quick question.

Are ED deferrals reviewed later in the cycle? It seems LSN indicates that those that were deferred were notified in April? Is this typical?
It could just be explained by the fact that if you were deferred from ED, you must be a weak or borderline candidate, while early acceptances go to the strongest applicants.

oooh, cold. you sound like my dad, it's exactly what he told me about my chances at mich.

Your dad's crazy.

yeah...*sniffle* he's all supportive and everything, but he seems to have something personal against Hope.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Bananas, Melonas, Yeah on January 15, 2008, 05:12:11 PM
yeah...*sniffle* he's all supportive and everything, but he seems to have something personal against Hope.

with your stats, expecting to get into mich, or even cls for that matter, doesn't require much hope.

now i'm just setting you up for a fall.  i'll stop.

nah, no risk of that.  seriously.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 15, 2008, 06:56:11 PM
yeah...*sniffle* he's all supportive and everything, but he seems to have something personal against Hope.

with your stats, expecting to get into mich, or even cls for that matter, doesn't require much hope.

now i'm just setting you up for a fall.  i'll stop.

nah, no risk of that.  seriously.

gahhh, you're all killing me.

never forget the lesson of don barzini.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=donbarzini

i wish i could find that poem about him.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 15, 2008, 07:07:55 PM
never forget the lesson of don barzini.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=donbarzini

i wish i could find that poem about him.

OMG, i really hope nobody links to my LSN in two years reminding people not to forget about PaulSimon...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: goaliechica on January 15, 2008, 07:12:49 PM

i wish i could find that poem about him.

I feel like Shark Week wrote it. Or dug it up. But I could be enormously off-base.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 15, 2008, 07:20:29 PM
I was wondering when this thread would pick up.  Apparently I have my answer.

Still terrified.

That's my amazing contribution for tonight.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: ghil04 on January 15, 2008, 09:08:39 PM

i wish i could find that poem about him.

I feel like Shark Week wrote it. Or dug it up. But I could be enormously off-base.

It was from Eveman, I believe.  Classic.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: courtz1686 on January 15, 2008, 11:35:32 PM
You will not get Brazini'd. Trust us.

As long as you're not a pompous jackass youngun, I think you'll be fine.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: courtz1686 on January 16, 2008, 10:21:09 AM
As long as you're not a pompous jackass youngun, I think you'll be fine.

Actually, there are plenty of pompous jackass younguns in all law schools. The key is not to make this overly manifest in your application.

Ha. You're right - I should have accounted for that.

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 17, 2008, 12:34:53 PM
guys, i'm really starting to go a little nuts here from all the waiting.  i have done maybe 1/2 an hour of actual work today.

i had a dream last night that my CLS status checker changed to decision...but no such luck.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 17, 2008, 12:36:24 PM
guys, i'm really starting to go a little nuts here from all the waiting.  i have done maybe 1/2 an hour of actual work today.

i had a dream last night that my CLS status checker changed to decision...but no such luck.

*pats*  I'm starting to get the same kind of thing.  Not a vivid dreamer...but daydreaming the same.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 17, 2008, 02:46:22 PM
guys, i'm really starting to go a little nuts here from all the waiting.  i have done maybe 1/2 an hour of actual work today.

i had a dream last night that my CLS status checker changed to decision...but no such luck.

good luck! i remember you from last cycle, hope you get in.

btw, the status check doesn't change to decision.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 17, 2008, 02:51:57 PM
guys, i'm really starting to go a little nuts here from all the waiting.  i have done maybe 1/2 an hour of actual work today.

i had a dream last night that my CLS status checker changed to decision...but no such luck.

good luck! i remember you from last cycle, hope you get in.

btw, the status check doesn't change to decision.

Thank you - I really, really hope I get in, too!

And I'm glad to hear I can stop compulsively refreshing the status checker.  I'll just have to wait patiently with everybody else.  ::)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: ghil04 on January 17, 2008, 03:08:38 PM
Love Button, I think you've just gotten unlucky with the wait times, but I'm absolutely 100% positive you'll be receiving a flood of good news from the schools you're waiting on.  Your #'s are simply too good. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 17, 2008, 03:10:50 PM
Love Button, I think you've just gotten unlucky with the wait times, but I'm absolutely 100% positive you'll be receiving a flood of good news from the schools you're waiting on.  Your #'s are simply too good. 

Thank you, that's really sweet and really nice to hear.

I think I've got a great shot, but there is certainly more to it than the numbers...I'm just hoping there's nothing horrible about my application that will keep me on the shelf indefinitely.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 18, 2008, 07:28:52 PM
First round of judgement:  Sometime this week, it appears...

As the thread starter, I want to be the first one to wish everyone best of luck.  Congratulations to those accepted!  And my condolences to those waitlisted or rejected; I expect to join one of the latter groups.

Either way, keep your heads up high:  you've all applied to one of the best schools in the country and were given serious consideration.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 19, 2008, 08:23:42 AM
I always thought I was a definite rejection for Columbia... but my recent acceptance at Michigan has made me question this.

Honestly, if they are going to reject me, I hope Columbia just rejects me A.S.A.P. so I can move on.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on January 19, 2008, 08:29:58 AM
Tetris, big congrats on michigan. Pre-Laws need to start considering moving to South dakota to beef up their diversity statement. Did you do a big why mich or anything else to let them know how pumped you were?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 19, 2008, 09:29:04 AM
guys, i'm really starting to go a little nuts here from all the waiting.  i have done maybe 1/2 an hour of actual work today.

i had a dream last night that my CLS status checker changed to decision...but no such luck.

Incidentally, and I'm not joking here, I had another dream last night that I got in to CLS.  Even in dream-time the decision --> turnaround time is reasonable.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 19, 2008, 09:54:30 AM
Incidentally, and I'm not joking here, I had another dream last night that I got in to CLS.  Even in dream-time the decision --> turnaround time is reasonable.

lmao!  This might be a good sign.  ;)



When the "In at Columbia - RD" thread comes out next week,  I'm going to have a nervous breakdown.  The Chicago thread didn't bother me that much, but the Columbia version is going to be a killer.  I need to get mentally prepared for the letdown starting right now.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 19, 2008, 10:15:22 AM
Incidentally, and I'm not joking here, I had another dream last night that I got in to CLS.  Even in dream-time the decision --> turnaround time is reasonable.

lmao!  This might be a good sign.  ;)



When the "In at Columbia - RD" thread comes out next week,  I'm going to have a nervous breakdown.  The Chicago thread didn't bother me that much, but the Columbia version is going to be a killer.  I need to get mentally prepared for the letdown starting right now.

Yeah, it's been kind of nice not having to deal with the auto-rejections yet.  Last time I applied, i went complete in January...which was just in time to get my HYSCN auto-rejections two weeks later  :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: tradewinds on January 19, 2008, 10:48:35 AM
You have a status checker for CLS?

All I received was a (very) short email saying I was complete and that was it. Is the username/password something generic?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: tkm. on January 19, 2008, 10:51:53 AM
name, dob, lsac #
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 19, 2008, 10:53:04 AM
You have a status checker for CLS?

All I received was a (very) short email saying I was complete and that was it. Is the username/password something generic?

Yeah, everybody does.  Someone mentioned that it will never switch to decision, though
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: tradewinds on January 19, 2008, 10:54:33 AM
Where is the link for the site?

And how did you get it?

I just searched my email again and it definitely is not in there. I also didn't receive anything snail mail.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 19, 2008, 10:56:05 AM
https://www-app.law.columbia.edu/webportal/preprocess/index.act?section=index-checkstatus-form

I mostly use it to remind myself that yes, I am complete, and yes, there wasn't a horrible mistake where LSAC sent schools my rec letters from last cycle because the recommenders names are indeed accurate.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: tradewinds on January 19, 2008, 11:00:18 AM
Thanks!

Can't believe I didn't catch that.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 19, 2008, 12:06:15 PM
Thanks!

Can't believe I didn't catch that.

CLS doesn't indicate that it exists in any of its e-mails.  So, it's not too surprising :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on January 19, 2008, 01:05:58 PM
....and just to review, it only tells you that you're complete, not that you've gone to decision.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RedNinja on January 19, 2008, 01:08:23 PM
It's a REALLY cool status checker though, way to go CLS!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 19, 2008, 03:43:45 PM
....and just to review, it only tells you that you're complete, not that you've gone to decision.

You've got it right. :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 19, 2008, 04:06:09 PM
Tetris, big congrats on michigan. Pre-Laws need to start considering moving to South dakota to beef up their diversity statement. Did you do a big why mich or anything else to let them know how pumped you were?

I wrote a diversity statement and a GPA addendum-- no "why michigan."

The diversity statement touched on how I grew up w/o a father in a poor single-mother household. Then it spent a paragraph describing why growing up in South Dakota makes me unique-- only .25% of the population comes from South Dakota and we're a very tight-knit state with a lot of "trust and community spirit." I gave an example that people in the grocery store parking lot in my hometown leave their cars running, unlocked, with the keys in the ignition to keep the cars warm during the winter (demonstrates trust). I concluded by stating that my economic and geographic diversity would enrich the school if I was accepted.

My GPA addendum was 2 pages that were pretty much exclusively focused on my upward trend-- my strong upward trend-- 3.9 over the last four semesters is probably what got me accepted.

Actually you've inspired me to write a new thread devoted to how I think I got into Michigan with a minus-25% GPA and a median LSAT. I'll put it up later.

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: legally_brunette on January 19, 2008, 07:56:06 PM
How does CLS notify the first round of acceptees? I saw e-mail somewhere but LSN looks like mail, I need to know whether to curse my gmail account or my mailman when I am still empty handed next week =)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 19, 2008, 07:57:49 PM
How does CLS notify the first round of acceptees? I saw e-mail somewhere but LSN looks like mail, I need to know whether to curse my gmail account or my mailman when I am still empty handed next week =)

The word is that there is an e-mail with a PDF copy of your letter followed by a hard copy of your letter.  Of course, in at least one reported case, the e-mail came after the hard copy letter...oops...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 19, 2008, 07:58:26 PM
How does CLS notify the first round of acceptees? I saw e-mail somewhere but LSN looks like mail, I need to know whether to curse my gmail account or my mailman when I am still empty handed next week =)

it seemed that the first wave got mail...and then it was email afterwards with the hard copy to follow
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: M51 on January 20, 2008, 12:38:44 AM
I believe last year it was a large blue envolope for first wave Acceptances, no e-mail. Rejections/WL came in small white ones. This cycle so far, all ED Acceptances have had e-mail w/ .pdf file first. Also, this year Columbia did ED 1.5 weeks ahead of last year's schedual, so first wave RD will probably come this week.

Good luck to everyone! And join the facebook group when you get in!  :D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 20, 2008, 01:10:21 AM
Tetris, big congrats on michigan. Pre-Laws need to start considering moving to South dakota to beef up their diversity statement. Did you do a big why mich or anything else to let them know how pumped you were?

I wrote a diversity statement and a GPA addendum-- no "why michigan."

The diversity statement touched on how I grew up w/o a father in a poor single-mother household. Then it spent a paragraph describing why growing up in South Dakota makes me unique-- only .25% of the population comes from South Dakota and we're a very tight-knit state with a lot of "trust and community spirit." I gave an example that people in the grocery store parking lot in my hometown leave their cars running, unlocked, with the keys in the ignition to keep the cars warm during the winter (demonstrates trust). I concluded by stating that my economic and geographic diversity would enrich the school if I was accepted.

My GPA addendum was 2 pages that were pretty much exclusively focused on my upward trend-- my strong upward trend-- 3.9 over the last four semesters is probably what got me accepted.

Actually you've inspired me to write a new thread devoted to how I think I got into Michigan with a minus-25% GPA and a median LSAT. I'll put it up later.



this started it all
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on January 20, 2008, 08:52:18 AM
I believe last year it was a large blue envolope for first wave Acceptances, no e-mail. Rejections/WL came in small white ones. This cycle so far, all ED Acceptances have had e-mail w/ .pdf file first. Also, this year Columbia did ED 1.5 weeks ahead of last year's schedual, so first wave RD will probably come this week.

Good luck to everyone! And join the facebook group when you get in!  :D

I went complete on 12/27. Should I be expecting something this week?
I am so anxious that I ve got a few pimples on my forehead.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Ben Matlock on January 20, 2008, 10:28:48 AM
jdxf, according to LSN, it looks like you're borderline for this week's acceptances or those coming out in the beginning of February.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 20, 2008, 10:35:34 AM
Tetris, big congrats on michigan. Pre-Laws need to start considering moving to South dakota to beef up their diversity statement. Did you do a big why mich or anything else to let them know how pumped you were?

I wrote a diversity statement and a GPA addendum-- no "why michigan."

The diversity statement touched on how I grew up w/o a father in a poor single-mother household. Then it spent a paragraph describing why growing up in South Dakota makes me unique-- only .25% of the population comes from South Dakota and we're a very tight-knit state with a lot of "trust and community spirit." I gave an example that people in the grocery store parking lot in my hometown leave their cars running, unlocked, with the keys in the ignition to keep the cars warm during the winter (demonstrates trust). I concluded by stating that my economic and geographic diversity would enrich the school if I was accepted.

My GPA addendum was 2 pages that were pretty much exclusively focused on my upward trend-- my strong upward trend-- 3.9 over the last four semesters is probably what got me accepted.

Actually you've inspired me to write a new thread devoted to how I think I got into Michigan with a minus-25% GPA and a median LSAT. I'll put it up later.



this started it all

Yeah it did. 'nuff said. I don't really want to "go there" again.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on January 20, 2008, 12:57:24 PM
jdxf, according to LSN, it looks like you're borderline for this week's acceptances or those coming out in the beginning of February.

thanks Ben
either way, i m glad that i will get a verdict soon
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 20, 2008, 01:14:28 PM
Last Year ED was E-Mail followed by small envelope with hard copy. RD was big green envelope.

or a brown one if you got a Hamilton
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 20, 2008, 01:23:27 PM
Will these be rejection and acceptance letters? or just acceptance letters?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 20, 2008, 01:24:44 PM
Will these be rejection and acceptance letters? or just acceptance letters?

rejections and deferrals come in regular sized white envelopes
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 20, 2008, 01:30:43 PM
I believe last year it was a large blue envolope for first wave Acceptances, no e-mail. Rejections/WL came in small white ones. This cycle so far, all ED Acceptances have had e-mail w/ .pdf file first. Also, this year Columbia did ED 1.5 weeks ahead of last year's schedual, so first wave RD will probably come this week.

Good luck to everyone! And join the facebook group when you get in!  :D

I went complete on 12/27. Should I be expecting something this week?
I am so anxious that I ve got a few pimples on my forehead.

*laughs*  This happened to me too a few weeks back...too much stress.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on January 20, 2008, 02:03:14 PM
Will these be rejection and acceptance letters? or just acceptance letters?

rejections and deferrals come in regular sized white envelopes

I think I will have a heart attack every time I see a white envelop in the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 20, 2008, 02:03:54 PM
Will these be rejection and acceptance letters? or just acceptance letters?

Most rejections come out in February.  :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: antaresvi on January 20, 2008, 02:04:24 PM
Will these be rejection and acceptance letters? or just acceptance letters?

looks like there were WLs this week last year
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 20, 2008, 05:12:14 PM
Will these be rejection and acceptance letters? or just acceptance letters?

rejections and deferrals come in regular sized white envelopes

I think I will have a heart attack every time I see a white envelop in the next couple of weeks.

Are you still getting spam from T4s? I just love the excitement I get from the "big white envelope" followed by the wave of disappointment when I see its just a Tier 4 solicitation.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: IamAnXman on January 20, 2008, 05:13:58 PM
^ spoken like someone who's head is just as pretentious as the ass it's stuck up. getting into michigan (luckily, may i add) does not really give you the right to degrade these other institutions.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 20, 2008, 05:19:30 PM
^ spoken like someone who's head is just as pretentious as the ass it's stuck up. getting into michigan (luckily, may i add) does not really give you the right to degrade these other institutions.

Whoa dude, chill out. I'm like the 1,000th person to point out how obnoxious it is to get spam from Tier 4s you have no interest in attending; and like the 500th person to point out that feeling of excitement/disappointment from getting a large white envelope like that in the mail. :S
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: IamAnXman on January 20, 2008, 05:23:07 PM
you're tetris. since there are others that kill, i will do so without guilt.  ::) get over yourself. learn some logic.


and how would they know you don't want to attend? at least give them a chance to give you the information about their school. even if it's not the best in the world. do you get angry over other info-mail that arrives in your mailbox? then you have no right to get irritated over tier 4s sending you info
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 20, 2008, 05:23:19 PM
^ spoken like someone who's head is just as pretentious as the ass it's stuck up. getting into michigan (luckily, may i add) does not really give you the right to degrade these other institutions.

Whoa dude, chill out. I'm like the 10,000th person to point out how obnoxious it is to get spam from Tier 4s you have no interest in attending; and like the 500th person to point out that feeling of excitement/disappointment from getting a large white envelope like that in the mail. :S

fixt.

What does fixt mean?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 20, 2008, 05:27:48 PM
you're tetris. since there are others that kill, i will do so without guilt.  ::) get over yourself. learn some logic.


and how would they know you don't want to attend? at least give them a chance to give you the information about their school. even if it's not the best in the world. do you get angry over other info-mail that arrives in your mailbox? then you have no right to get irritated over tier 4s sending you info

Honestly I just think its kind of weird/creepy that you are stalking me, pointing and screaming whenever I do something that you disapprove of on this board.

As for the T4 mail, I don't get "angry" about T4s sending me mail, I just don't care for it and its always a let down when I think its mail from a school that I applied to or have interest in. And yes, I do get very slightly annoyed when credit card companies, local supermarkets, etc. send me junk mail. I thought that 99% of people felt the same way.

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 20, 2008, 05:29:10 PM
^ spoken like someone who's head is just as pretentious as the ass it's stuck up. getting into michigan (luckily, may i add) does not really give you the right to degrade these other institutions.

Whoa dude, chill out. I'm like the 10,000th person to point out how obnoxious it is to get spam from Tier 4s you have no interest in attending; and like the 500th person to point out that feeling of excitement/disappointment from getting a large white envelope like that in the mail. :S

fixt.

What does fixt mean?

it's just a smartass thing to say when you've modified the quoted post.  note the extra zero that i put in your post.

lol. thanks for the backup.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: IamAnXman on January 20, 2008, 05:32:40 PM
he wasn't backing you up, tetris- he was basically siding with me and making fun of you....if you could decipher posts, you'd be able to understand that.

and i'm not stalking you. but your posts do send out a feminine hygiene product-vibe and an arrogance cologne that i could smell from xoxo. it disgusts me, frankly. no one else here agrees with you about getting angry over spam mail because they understand that it's mail meant only to inform and not hurt.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 20, 2008, 05:37:13 PM
and i'm not stalking you. but your posts do send out a feminine hygiene product-vibe and an arrogance cologne that i could smell from xoxo. it disgusts me, frankly. no one else here agrees with you about getting angry over spam mail because they understand that it's mail meant only to inform and not hurt.

For the 10th time, I don't get angry at T4 spam. I just think its an (admittedly funny) letdown when it could be an acceptance or a solicitation from a school I'm more interested in.  I don't go into like a blind rage or anything everytime New England School of Law sends me info in the mail.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 20, 2008, 07:07:42 PM
i'll take your mail, melvin.  WHY WON'T ANY LAW SCHOOLS TALK TO ME?!?!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 20, 2008, 07:33:59 PM
Dear all,

Please, please, this is a thread about CLS.  Not about personal disagreements.  Please take them someplace else -- there are dozens (if I dare say) nervous people on this forum awaiting Columbia's decisions.  Let's keep this supportive.

Thanks,
Hammerstein (thread starter)

P.S. I am spazzing about financial aid applications tonight, so I have stopped worrying about CLS.  Strange how these things work...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: CLS Troll v2.0 on January 20, 2008, 07:38:22 PM
Just want to give you all a lil' bit of information: the big green acceptance envelope (for me) was inside a big white envelope.  So don't spazz based on the color!

Come visit a class; you might want to check out a 1L class as well as an upper-level class of interest (I recommend Dorf' Consitutional Law class.  I'm peeved that I don't have him this semester). 

Not sure if I mentioned that professors are being asked to be extra-careful about being in their offices on Mondays so they are available for the informal Mondays at Columbia.  The student body is receiving quite a few emails from the Admissions Office, too.  Please don't hesitate to ask any student random questions!  Only a few of us bite.

ETA: Hammerstein, how come CLS isn't on your 'pending' list?   :'(
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: IamAnXman on January 20, 2008, 07:39:28 PM
hammer, i will go ahead and say what everyone else is thinking but too scared to say:

the OP of threads has no authority to decide where the thread leads. if it doesn't happen to conform to the path you would have liked, i'm sorry. but you have to try and readjust or hop into the latest path the conversation has taken, which by the simple fact that it exists is proof that it is more popular of a topic.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Pam Beesly on January 20, 2008, 07:44:55 PM
Just to weigh in, I'm with Hammer on this one. I tagged this thread because I want to stay up to date with CLS admissions, not because I want to read about spam from T4s. If that's where it leads, obviously there's nothing any of us can do to stop it, but be considerate and start a new thread if it's a tangent that's going to take up a few pages.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 20, 2008, 07:45:23 PM
ETA: Hammerstein, how come CLS isn't on your 'pending' list?   :'(

Doh!  It was supposed to be there.  Adding it in a moment ;)

hammer, i will go ahead and say what everyone else is thinking but too scared to say:

the OP of threads has no authority to decide where the thread leads. if it doesn't happen to conform to the path you would have liked, i'm sorry. but you have to try and readjust or hop into the latest path the conversation has taken, which by the simple fact that it exists is proof that it is more popular of a topic.

No, I don't have any "authority."  But, I didn't order anyone to do anything.  The entire post was framed in terms of a request.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: IamAnXman on January 20, 2008, 07:51:16 PM
^ thank you for that worthless post


hammer, i respect your hope that this thread stays on your ridiculous topic but since the conversation swayed another way and more posters became interested in that line of thought, i think it only fair (and in conformity to LSD rules) that the train of thought is continued.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 20, 2008, 11:53:40 PM
Will the status checker update before the decisions are sent out?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 12:00:49 AM
does the status checker ever change after complete?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 12:11:24 AM
no
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 12:27:36 AM
ok thanks
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RedNinja on January 21, 2008, 12:46:47 AM
I really hope Columbia ships those packets next week, I'm so anxious thinking about it
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscist on January 21, 2008, 08:00:39 AM
I get angry when T4s send me mail.  It's immoral.  They should know they're stealing people's money that have the scores necessary for a much better school.  They're like the degrees you mail in for off the back of a cereal box.  They should cease to be institutions. 

And yeah, it's sort of weird to think that Columbia and Chicago have just started accepting for RD, when other schools have been doing it for months. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 21, 2008, 08:29:32 AM
This thread is depressing.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 08:42:44 AM
I don't get it. Are you people expecting letters to come in the mail tomorrow, or e-mails from Columbia?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: newtothis on January 21, 2008, 09:31:14 AM
Soon, my friends.  Soon.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 09:42:01 AM
I don't get it. Are you people expecting letters to come in the mail tomorrow, or e-mails from Columbia?

E-mails, I think.

Actually, I'm expecting a WL.  Wait, hold up.  That's actually a "reserve" list.

if CLS does it the same way as last year, then the first wave is hard copy acceptances in green envelopes (brown if you get a Hamilton).

Reserve is just CLS's name for deferral. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 21, 2008, 10:12:26 AM
I pray I make the "reserve" list. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 01:46:30 PM
ON LSN it seems as if Half the people on there were admitted the day after MLK day.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: legally_brunette on January 21, 2008, 02:05:47 PM
So did they send the packages out on Friday or do they just have an in with the USPS?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 21, 2008, 02:20:48 PM
I can't wait to receive my rejection.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 21, 2008, 02:40:53 PM
I can't wait to receive my rejection.

Wouldn't it be funny if you got in?

I'd be completely stunned, and would probably refrain from telling anyone on LSD.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Bananas, Melonas, Yeah on January 21, 2008, 03:26:01 PM
I can't wait to receive my rejection.

Wouldn't it be funny if you got in?

I'd be completely stunned, and would probably refrain from telling anyone on LSD.

No "How I got into CLS with a sub-median LSAT and sub-25% GPA" thread?  Bummer.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 03:32:11 PM
If I get into Columbia, my LSN is going down.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: nakanaka on January 21, 2008, 03:32:40 PM
Do you guys think I have any chance of hearing in the first wave if they requested new grades mid-December? The pattern seems to be that you have to be complete before the New Year to hear in the first wave and I was complete in early November, but I don't know how it works since they received new info late December.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 03:36:49 PM
I can't wait to receive my rejection.

Wouldn't it be funny if you got in?

I'd be completely stunned, and would probably refrain from telling anyone on LSD.

you could tell LSd...just don't be a feminine hygiene product in the same way that it seems you have been since Mich accepted you.



Good Luck to the rest of you...there are a couple of you that I'd like to meet at ASW.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: TallisUmbras on January 21, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
I can't wait to receive my rejection.

Wouldn't it be funny if you got in?

I'd be completely stunned, and would probably refrain from telling anyone on LSD.

No "How I got into CLS with a sub-median LSAT and sub-25% GPA" thread?  Bummer.

What, no thread where people hammer you for being diverse for a white guy? Of course, you could always reply that it was based on merit.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
HMMM. I just looked through my e-mail, and I did not receive a letter asking for updated grades. I guess that means auto reject right??
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Ben Matlock on January 21, 2008, 04:02:48 PM
I'm 3.8x/174, and I am sure they are considering admitting me. I have not been asked for my fall grades.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on January 21, 2008, 04:02:56 PM
I pray I make the "reserve" list. 

I pray I hear anything this week.
Going crazy right now.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: legally_brunette on January 21, 2008, 04:29:06 PM
What was up with their deferrals/waitlist last year? It seems like a lot of them were accepted at Harvard - I didn't think CLS was one to yield protect
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 21, 2008, 04:38:43 PM
CLS seems to care a little more than their peers about 170+ LSAT scores, so you see a lot of 169-171 waitlisters who might have gotten into HLS or Stanford.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 21, 2008, 04:46:22 PM
They don't want everyone's updated grades, only the people they are considering admitting. I've been complete since December 3rd, and I haven't heard anything else from them.

We're in similar boats, truth. I haven't been asked for updated grades either. Who knows, maybe they looked at our applications and thought "auto admit." Who knows.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 21, 2008, 05:16:10 PM
CLS seems to care a little more than their peers about 170+ LSAT scores, so you see a lot of 169-171 waitlisters who might have gotten into HLS or Stanford.

Exactly why I'm expecting a waitlist, myself.  So is life
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: dubsy on January 21, 2008, 05:25:21 PM
I just don't understand how people found out the day after MLK if the decisions are by mail. Have they been mailed out already? Does anyone from last year remember? And so the rejections come out this week?

no some decisions were e-mail.  also, some offices were open despite it being MLK.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 05:26:50 PM
but the post office wasn't open and everybody is saying that Columbia is going to mail the decisions out.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 21, 2008, 05:28:57 PM
but the post office wasn't open and everybody is saying that Columbia is going to mail the decisions out.

Sometimes on LSN people put the date of the letter as their decision date instead of the date they received it.

For instance, on my LSN, I always put the date of the letter and the date of the status change as the decision date instead of the date that I found out.

Columbia could have mailed them the day after MLK, and that would be the date that people put on their LSN.

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 06:01:06 PM
ohh. I feel you.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 06:29:59 PM
They don't want everyone's updated grades, only the people they are considering admitting. I've been complete since December 3rd, and I haven't heard anything else from them.

then I guess I was an auto-reject

iirc, you gpa was around 3.9...why exactly do you think they would want to see a grade update? 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 06:34:22 PM
I didn't think they would. However, the truth seems to believe that they want to see updated grades for all applicants that they are considering admitting

i doubt this
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 06:55:35 PM
Well if they were considering my application they would want to see my Fall 2007 grades. My numbers aren't as good as everyone else's.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 21, 2008, 07:07:22 PM
Well if they were considering my application they would want to see my Fall 2007 grades. My numbers aren't as good as everyone else's.

I don't think this is necessarily true.  At this point there isn't that much you can do to change your GPA.  I doubt Columbia sees much difference in a 3.55 and a 3.6.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 07:12:21 PM
Well if they were considering my application they would want to see my Fall 2007 grades. My numbers aren't as good as everyone else's.

I don't think this is necessarily true.  At this point there isn't that much you can do to change your GPA.  I doubt Columbia sees much difference in a 3.55 and a 3.6.

pretty much.


in any case, for those of you who are current seniors and saw a grade boost, don't wait until a school asks for an update--just send lsdas your new transcript.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 21, 2008, 07:13:29 PM
good, I hope you are both correct because it means that I still have hope :)

 ::)

Let the REAL borderline cases worry.  ;)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 07:24:57 PM
I'm below borderline. Worry about me.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 07:36:42 PM
tL: how do you know that?  Interesting factoid.

Observation of the last three cycles.  Nothing concrete.


Ehhhhh.  This thread depresses me. I just need to accept that I won't break CCN.  I can't complain though.  Michigan was my top choice of the PMVB cluster.
::) :P

Wallace: you of UoC. Give me a minute to break your violin in half.

Tom: you're at a peer school with enough time left over to LSD.  Allow me to re-string that violin.

we're only 1 week into the semester...of course we have time to LSD
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 21, 2008, 07:39:41 PM
Truth: you have UVa.  Give me a minute to find that small violin of mine.

tL: how do you know that?  Interesting factoid.


http://www.deloggio.com/admproc/what.htm

Deloggio (take her for what she's worth) seems to agree that Columbia values undergrad prestige.  They do like diversity, though, so that might help all us (neurotic) borderline minorities.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 07:42:50 PM
i can see that...ivies are incestuous and fed into each other (note that 4/5 ivy law schools list importance of UG).

1 thing i have noticed at CLS regarding the black students in my year and that almost all of us attended Ivies/MIT/Stanford type schools.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 07:58:30 PM
::) :P

lol.

I think you'll get one CCN off the WL.

Michigan starts May 29.  I'm won't/can't stay on any WLs.

i can see that...ivies are incestuous and fed into each other (note that 4/5 ivy law schools list importance of UG).

1 thing i have noticed at CLS regarding the black students in my year and that almost all of us attended Ivies/MIT/Stanford type schools.

*cries*

don't worry...it's just anecdotal evidence.  obviously not all of the black students when to schools like that.

Damn, I didn't know that CLS was such a prestige-coveting school.  Why?

Because they will never be HYS, so they have to find another way to be elitist.

nope...it's bc ivies are elitist in general.  i'm telling you...it's incestuous like that.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 08:06:25 PM
Eh. My respect for their Admissions has just dropped slightly.  If they're simply going after the kids who ended up at top UGs without a credible reason, that's silly.

Maybe they want impressive resumes from their students?

B.A. Stanford University 2004
J.D. Columbia University 2007

This sort of thing might impress an employer more than . . . .

as if CLS was the only school that said that they looked at the quality of UGAD
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 21, 2008, 08:14:29 PM
I don't think a school would reject you because of your undergrad.  It seems like it might be used more as a tie-breaker between comparable applicants.  That might just be wishful thinking, though.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: CLS Troll v2.0 on January 21, 2008, 08:14:46 PM
They don't want everyone's updated grades, only the people they are considering admitting. I've been complete since December 3rd, and I haven't heard anything else from them.

Just because you don't get a request does not mean they are not considering you.  By no means does the Admissions Office request grades from everyone they are considering.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Pop Up Video on January 21, 2008, 08:15:00 PM
I disagree.  Look at Chi's feed and you'll see that they're giving kids from Bama, New Mexico, and Idaho a chance.  There's nearly nothing of that sort with CLS.

Stanford took two kids from my UG, and I personally know a person who went to HLS from my UG.

Meritocracy is nice.

What is this 'feed?'
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 08:18:48 PM
no I'm the one with the crap LSAT scores
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: goaliechica on January 21, 2008, 08:27:09 PM
Nevermind, CLS students.  I just found my school's "graduate acceptance rate at top law schools" list, and CLS has been very kind to my school -- even kinder than the rest of the T14.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Wally, dude, it's sometimes incredible the extent to which you judge schools based on whether or not their policies will or should be to your own benefit....

Just saying.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 08:27:30 PM
Where did you find that? I want to know about my school.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 08:29:52 PM
Nevermind, CLS students.  I just found my school's "graduate acceptance rate at top law schools" list, and CLS has been very kind to my school -- even kinder than the rest of the T14.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Wally, dude, it's sometimes incredible the extent to which you judge schools based on whether or not their policies will or should be to your own benefit....

Just saying.

this is why i love my goalie  ;)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 08:31:06 PM
ohhh.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: goaliechica on January 21, 2008, 08:32:30 PM
Nevermind, CLS students.  I just found my school's "graduate acceptance rate at top law schools" list, and CLS has been very kind to my school -- even kinder than the rest of the T14.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Wally, dude, it's sometimes incredible the extent to which you judge schools based on whether or not their policies will or should be to your own benefit....

Just saying.

this is why i love my goalie  ;)

 :-*

::waves::

We never hang out in the same threads anymore!

You're all, like, helpful and full of information and stuff  :D

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 08:34:40 PM
The pre-law website at my school is garbage
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: CLS Troll v2.0 on January 21, 2008, 08:34:51 PM
Undergrads represented by just one of my classes (sample, not entirety):

UT
Wellesley
Boston College
University of Maryland-College Park
Cal Tech
Olin College
Georgetown
Tuoro College
Grinnell College
Bates College
UC-Berkeley
Miami
Case Western

With a lot of Yales, Dartmouths, and Princetons thrown in :)

HTH
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 08:35:39 PM
Eh.  My respect for their Admissions has just dropped slightly.

Me too.  A lot of kids didn't have the opportunity to attend a top UG.  I honestly didn't know what an Ivy was until I was a sophomore in college. So it's like I'm being punished for my background.  But life is unfair.  LS admissions is a little more fair.  If you have the numbers, you should get into a good school regardless of your background.

Save your outrage. It's self-selection. look at the average lsat scores for the undergraduates at various schools. Students at top ugrads are more likely to have higher lsat scores, and therefore make up a large proportion of students at top law schools. this isnt brain surgery. a 172 from FSU is just as good as a 172 from Dartmouth. there just arent as many 172s at FSU apparently.

i agree.

plus, to be outraged at CLS, would led to outrage at Penn, HLS, and other schools like that.

Nevermind, CLS students.  I just found my school's "graduate acceptance rate at top law schools" list, and CLS has been very kind to my school -- even kinder than the rest of the T14.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Wally, dude, it's sometimes incredible the extent to which you judge schools based on whether or not their policies will or should be to your own benefit....

Just saying.

this is why i love my goalie  ;)

 :-*

::waves::

We never hang out in the same threads anymore!

You're all, like, helpful and full of information and stuff
  :D



LOL I try   :-*
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 08:36:04 PM
It hasn't been updated since Sept of 2006.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: CLS Troll v2.0 on January 21, 2008, 08:43:04 PM
Undergrads represented by just one of my classes:

UT
Wellesley
Boston College
University of Maryland-College Park
Cal Tech
Olin College
Georgetown
Tuoro College
Grinnell College
Bates College
UC-Berkeley
Miami
Case Western

HTH

Almost all of those UGs are fairly impressive.  Grinnell has excellent LAC rep, Georgetown is well-respected, and Cal Tech and Wellesley are something else.

I haven't heard of Tuoro or Bates.

I wasn't arguing that they weren't impressive, I was simply giving evidence that not everyone here is an Ivy grad.  Of course many people come from well-respected institutions--they are well-respected for a reason.  I don't think it's well-founded to look upon a place with disdain if it fails to lower its standards in order to admit from a more diverse pool. 

I don't think it says anything about the admissions committee to point to the significant Ivy representation found in any class here.  I do, however, think it says a lot about various undergraduate institutions, particularly those whose average LSAT score is sub-155.  Even have one representative from such schools is, in my opinion, a major achievement.  I would imagine that the % representation schools have is correlated to that school's average LSAT score. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 08:50:36 PM
The average LSAT at my undergrad is a 158
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 08:54:49 PM
This is insane. I'm going to have to go to each schools incoming class profile and look for my school on it.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 08:57:13 PM
Undergraduate Institutions Represented: 105
thanks Columbia.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
http://www.law.ucla.edu/home/index.asp?page=1975

My undergrad is not represented.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:02:51 PM
Another school that will not list the schools.

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissions/profile/
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:03:54 PM
I guess not many schools list the undergrads of students. I'm done for the night.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Pop Up Video on January 21, 2008, 09:04:18 PM
Here's Penn's.

http://www.law.upenn.edu/prospective/jd/schools.html
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:04:50 PM
My school is on the Penn list.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:05:56 PM
look at this. They even tell you how many from each school. I wish every school did this. I just might attend thanks to this list.

http://law.vanderbilt.edu/prospective-students/first-year-class-profile/colleges-represented/index.aspx
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:06:16 PM
My school is on the Vanderbilt list also.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:07:53 PM
That link for Vandy was just the incoming class. This is the entire school

http://law.vanderbilt.edu/prospective-students/first-year-class-profile/combined-colleges-number/index.aspx
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:08:37 PM
Vandy has 15 Yale undergrads. Is that strange? They must get the Law Scholar Merit awards
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 09:09:58 PM
http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/prospectives/class10.htm
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:11:48 PM
My school is on that list also. GREAT
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 09:13:36 PM
why do you care if your school is on the list?  does it really matter?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:16:40 PM
It lets me know I'm not from some school they laugh at when they see the name
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 09:18:13 PM
It lets me know I'm not from some school they laugh at when they see the name

they as in adcoms?  who cares if they laugh, as long as they like your package enough to accept you

plus, by that reasoning, if i were in your shoes thinking about UVa i should worry bc theres only 1 person from my ug there---and my ug is not one to be "laughed" at by adcoms

why do you care if your school is on the list?  does it really matter?

It does give your school a pinch more credibility.  I don't feel like a trailblazer or anything of that sort.

eh...being a trailblazer is cool.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 21, 2008, 09:18:53 PM
I really should go to sleep
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 21, 2008, 09:22:27 PM
Forget MCB's school, Columbia has no students at UVA. I think that says more about city-dwellers not being ready to deal with Charlottesville than a nefarious pattern of discrimination against Columbia students.

ha ha, i noticed that too...and i'm thinking the same thing about going from the a city like NY to Cville
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 21, 2008, 09:34:17 PM
I think that all this worry about undergraduate insitution is getting a bit much.  As has been said, it's pretty minimal.

Heck, in my case, I am 100% sure that Columbia is familiar with my UG and has almost undoubtedly admitted people from it, but I still think it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: IamAnXman on January 21, 2008, 09:39:56 PM
hammer, trust me when i say that ugrad institution is very important in the admissions process- obviously it cannot overtake your numbers or outweigh your PS but it plays its own, significant role in the process. the reason is simply that even if lsac levels GPAs for adcomms to get a standard view of each applicant, a university meant to teach students how to catch bass and trout cannot foster the intellect needed for law school the way a well known ugrad can. few people will argue against that particular point. i worked on my ugrad admission committee and we viewed the particular high school applicants graduated from as rather important.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RTP2008 on January 22, 2008, 02:38:43 AM
My school's average LSAT is 147 and we sent at least 7 grads to T14 schools (3 to Harvard).  With that said we had around 400 graduates and few were law school bound (less than 20 I believe). I think anyone from any school has a legit shot as long as the application is up to standards.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 22, 2008, 05:08:06 AM
on the flip side of the UG coin, I come from one of the top three UGs in the country and I haven't heard squat from anybody in about a month...

so while I do believe it's important, I don't believe it will turn your application into a SuperApp.  unfortunately for me.  ::)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 22, 2008, 05:37:19 AM
My school's average LSAT is 147 and we sent at least 7 grads to T14 schools (3 to Harvard).  With that said we had around 400 graduates and few were law school bound (less than 20 I believe). I think anyone from any school has a legit shot as long as the application is up to standards.

You also go to an HBCU.  Not the same.


Damn, I was being awfully whiny last night.  Whatever, I'm over it. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 22, 2008, 07:02:09 AM
What time will we find out?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 22, 2008, 07:03:47 AM
What time will we find out?

It comes when it comes.  Can't ask for anything more.

Good luck, everyone.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 22, 2008, 07:17:03 AM
someone with high numbers should call and check on the status and see what they say.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: joebuddencirca03 on January 22, 2008, 08:16:25 AM
Patiently waiting...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscist on January 22, 2008, 09:17:19 AM
Ha "that girl," that's terrible. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: _retired_ on January 22, 2008, 09:35:22 AM
Patiently waiting...

Well you're one step ahead of most of us. :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 22, 2008, 09:44:09 AM
waiting here. Nothing yet
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Tetris on January 22, 2008, 09:49:09 AM
Has anyone received anything ye?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: IamAnXman on January 22, 2008, 10:00:16 AM
you are all acting too paranoid in this stage of the cycle. all you can do it wait, there's no good that can come of griping about how long it's taking or yelling at each other to vent your angers about columbia's lengthy decision process. just wait it out, like the LSAT score
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: curiouscurious on January 22, 2008, 10:45:05 AM
Nothing in the mailbox today..... (i applied early in the cycle ~9/20)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: chastened aspirations on January 22, 2008, 11:12:30 AM
I'm fantastically good-looking and I haven't been accepted yet, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Pam Beesly on January 22, 2008, 11:14:52 AM
I'm fantastically good-looking and I haven't been accepted yet, for what it's worth.

Ditto. Isn't it crazy? I knew I should have sent in some glamour shots.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: reese07 on January 22, 2008, 11:18:58 AM
Tag.

I have a strong feeling that CLS will break my streak.  :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 22, 2008, 11:34:48 AM
Tag.

I have a strong feeling that CLS will break my streak.  :-\

Ditto, but at least we'll go out in style.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 22, 2008, 11:41:57 AM

Ditto, but at least we'll go out in style.


 ::)

You future HLS admits kill me.  ;)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Ben Matlock on January 22, 2008, 01:09:04 PM
I contacted the admissions office today. They wouldn't tell me if decisions have gone out, but they would tell me that I'd receive my decision soon. :)

Edit: PM me if you want, but Tom Terrific has already confirmed that he saw a stack of green envelopes.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 22, 2008, 01:15:46 PM
You should've waited before calling.  :P

I saw a bin with envelopes in the main building, probably heading towards the mail room.

Good luck!

...were they little envelopes?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: edaze on January 22, 2008, 01:17:52 PM
Recall that acceptances are e-mailed.

Now...are waitlists and rejections concurrently mailed with the acceptances? That's the question!

I want my rejection now, dammit.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 22, 2008, 01:46:46 PM
You should've waited before calling.  :P

I saw a bin with envelopes in the main building, probably heading towards the mail room.

Good luck!
so I won't find out until next week?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: doos13 on January 22, 2008, 02:06:27 PM
You should've waited before calling.  :P

I saw a bin with envelopes in the main building, probably heading towards the mail room.

Good luck!

...were they little envelopes?

haha.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: edaze on January 22, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Sorry Mr. Terrific.

Anyway. I know what NOT to be expecting in the mail... a CLS acceptance.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: IamAnXman on January 22, 2008, 02:29:51 PM
awesomerossum, you are just as annoying here as you seem to be on TLS.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: edaze on January 22, 2008, 02:34:50 PM
Quote
awesomerossum, you are just as annoying here as you seem to be on TLS.

Okay.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 22, 2008, 02:36:40 PM
This CLS app cycle be hardest ever.

Julie!!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 22, 2008, 02:36:58 PM
This CLS app cycle be hardest ever.

Please leave the Julie Fern-ing to the professionals. :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 22, 2008, 02:40:06 PM
ok so I should get my rejection soon?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 22, 2008, 02:41:19 PM
Truth, what happened to you being calm after getting into UVa?  You are NOT acting calm.   ;D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 22, 2008, 02:43:52 PM
I am acting calm. it's not a big deal. I just need to know. I need closure so I can live with my decision.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 22, 2008, 02:47:07 PM
Recall that acceptances are e-mailed.

Now...are waitlists and rejections concurrently mailed with the acceptances? That's the question!

I want my rejection now, dammit.

For the umpteenth time.

RD acceptances are mailed. They're emailed in a few exceptional cases, e.g. international students, ed decisions, etc.

fwiw, it just seems like that for the first wave.  i was emailed--and i have no exceptional circumstances.  pretty much after i was admitted, every one seemed t get in by email.  but i wasn't in the first wave.

This CLS app cycle be hardest ever.

shouldn't you be reading conlaw right now?

ConLaw is gonna suck for me...i got Thomas :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: edaze on January 22, 2008, 02:47:35 PM
POt, that fake LSn link is lamesauce.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 22, 2008, 02:56:04 PM
ConLaw is gonna suck for me...i got Thomas :-\

???

must be new teaching this year.


he's not new, he's been on leave for 2 years
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 22, 2008, 02:59:22 PM
Question for CLS students--

where exactly is the Columbia University Center for Career Education?  the email says behind the law school--but where exactly, what's the exact address?  the interactive campus map isn't helping.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 22, 2008, 03:04:14 PM
Question for CLS students--

where exactly is the Columbia University Center for Career Education?  the email says behind the law school--but where exactly, what's the exact address?  the interactive campus map isn't helping.

116th and Amsterdam, across from Faculty house. The map on their site sucks a lot less than the interactive one:

http://www.cce.columbia.edu/geninfo/contact.php

gracias
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: edaze on January 22, 2008, 03:21:31 PM
How do you know he/she is older?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: CLS Troll v2.0 on January 22, 2008, 05:18:49 PM
I plan on just putting the book under my pillow while I sleep and hoping osmosis takes over.

oh what now that you're at CLS you think you can coast because it's almost certain that you'll find good employment just because of where you go to school?  :P

Exactly  ;D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 22, 2008, 05:55:44 PM
so is it the general consensus that if you went complete before Mid-december and you DON'T hear in this first round that you will not be getting in?  if history repeats itself?

frightening.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 22, 2008, 05:57:21 PM
Damn I went complete Dec 3rd. Damn.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RedNinja on January 22, 2008, 06:09:54 PM
Ugh, I cant wait for packages to arrive, whether to myself or others =p
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: dubsy on January 22, 2008, 06:12:47 PM

huh.  well at least your peers are in the same boat.

oh, and i'd redact.  best not to leave comments about classes in public.

oh my... i am soo craving a milkshake right now...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 22, 2008, 06:29:43 PM
so is it the general consensus that if you went complete before Mid-december and you DON'T hear in this first round that you will not be getting in?  if history repeats itself?

frightening.

i went complete on 11/29...wasn't in the first wave...got in on 2/15

Pot is a CLS 2L.

Do you know the CLS LSDers personally?  Have you been in classes together?  I'm just curious.

i know most of the cls lsders....actually, we had a big meet up at the ASW.  and people who didn't post knew me. i had ppl tell me i was one of the nicest ppl on the board. it was weird but funny.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 22, 2008, 06:30:12 PM
so is it the general consensus that if you went complete before Mid-december and you DON'T hear in this first round that you will not be getting in?  if history repeats itself?

frightening.

i went complete on 11/29...wasn't in the first wave...got in on 2/15

okay, comforting.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 22, 2008, 06:51:58 PM
How did they know who you were, Miss Celie Blues?   ???

i never made it a huge point to be anonymous...i didn't give out my government, but i wasn't hiding where i went to ug and where i'm from.  plus, during the time of the Mich ASW, all of us did a self tar so that we would recognize each other (i think there was like 30 of us).  so if ppl lurked, they knew what i looked like. i didn't mind at all actually. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: edaze on January 22, 2008, 07:17:10 PM
MCB,

Were there a lot of lurkers? How many 1Ls do you think were actually on LSD?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 22, 2008, 07:27:41 PM
MCB,

Were there a lot of lurkers? How many 1Ls do you think were actually on LSD?

there are good # of cls 1Ls who were on lsd...has to be around 15-20.

and lots of ppl lurk on lsd though they don't mention it.  the two ppl that came up to me at that asw were lurkers
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 22, 2008, 08:28:18 PM
If I get into NYU or Columbia I will post my website for all to see.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: edaze on January 22, 2008, 08:48:29 PM
Interesting.

Oh man, I hope I get in. Probably won't, since 168 admits are rare, but I'm praying for the best:)

Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 23, 2008, 05:41:26 AM
Recall that acceptances are e-mailed.

Now...are waitlists and rejections concurrently mailed with the acceptances? That's the question!

I want my rejection now, dammit.

For the umpteenth time.

RD acceptances are mailed. They're emailed in a few exceptional cases, e.g. international students, ed decisions, etc.

excellent. international. i *would* check my email even more obsessively than i do now, but apparently my boss expects me to work every now and then.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 23, 2008, 05:56:58 AM
oh i don't care, i just want to hear anything in any way. i haven't heard a thing from any of the zillion schools i applied to for the past 3 weeks, i'm wondering if they all lost my apps at once.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 23, 2008, 06:05:30 AM
i think she said something about worrying over getting barzini'd.

it cracks me up to think that i only applied to five.  :D

smart move.

Why on earth did you apply to a zillion schools if you don't mind my asking?

eh. paranoia.

it was fun for a while, getting bombarded with daily 'complete' emails to my otherwise empty inbox.
now they're all ignoring me, and it's breaking my heart  :'(
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 06:28:28 AM
oh i don't care, i just want to hear anything in any way. i haven't heard a thing from any of the zillion schools i applied to for the past 3 weeks, i'm wondering if they all lost my apps at once.

try waiting THREE MONTHS. then we'll talk.

/bitter comment.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 23, 2008, 06:34:05 AM
oh i don't care, i just want to hear anything in any way. i haven't heard a thing from any of the zillion schools i applied to for the past 3 weeks, i'm wondering if they all lost my apps at once.

try waiting THREE MONTHS. then we'll talk.

/bitter comment.

I feel for you LoveButton. :-\  I'm only a month complete at most places and I'm going crazy.  At three months I think I'll need someone to talk me down from the ledge.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 06:40:15 AM
oh i don't care, i just want to hear anything in any way. i haven't heard a thing from any of the zillion schools i applied to for the past 3 weeks, i'm wondering if they all lost my apps at once.

try waiting THREE MONTHS. then we'll talk.

/bitter comment.

I feel for you LoveButton. :-\  I'm only a month complete at most places and I'm going crazy.  At three months I think I'll need someone to talk me down from the ledge.

haha.  nobody told me about this potential side effects of applying early: waiting longer.   ::)  if i only knew whether it's a GOOD or a BAD thing to be waiting with no news, I'd be a bit calmer, but I worry it's a sign of pending rejection if they don't tell you one way or another...

anyway, NU supposedly can't keep me waiting past February 1st, so the end is near...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 23, 2008, 06:54:46 AM
anyway, NU supposedly can't keep me waiting past February 1st, so the end is near...

They've been known to renege on this promise.  :-\

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 07:12:02 AM
anyway, NU supposedly can't keep me waiting past February 1st, so the end is near...

They've been known to renege on this promise.  :-\




noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ...

::bangs head on desk::

that was the only thing keeping me sane!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 08:07:12 AM
try waiting THREE MONTHS. then we'll talk.

done it.

how did it turn out?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 23, 2008, 08:07:56 AM
Just a heads up: Someone at TLS is reporting getting a Columbia decision in the mail today.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 08:08:55 AM
Just a heads up: Someone at TLS is reporting getting a Columbia decision in the mail today.

i wonder if they live in NYC.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 23, 2008, 08:09:50 AM
They live in Brooklyn, apparently.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: dc10 on January 23, 2008, 08:18:50 AM
They live in Brooklyn, apparently.

Can you link us?  I don't know that website.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 08:19:13 AM
try waiting THREE MONTHS. then we'll talk.

done it.

how did it turn out?

well.  i'll tell you more about it later if you end up on my recruitment list.

don't tease me.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 23, 2008, 08:19:48 AM
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23218
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: dc10 on January 23, 2008, 08:22:54 AM
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23218

Thanks!

Now I'm guaranteed to not be able to eat or get any work done until I get home tonight.  Ahhh...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 08:27:08 AM
don't tease me.

teasing?  i'm just wishing you luck!  :D

hehe.  i'm stressed.  :-\

i wish there was an emoticon that was pulling out it's hair!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 08:40:09 AM
don't tease me.

teasing?  i'm just wishing you luck!  :D

hehe.  i'm stressed.  :-\

i wish there was an emoticon that was pulling out it's hair!

here: (http://forums.thelastfreecity.com/images/smiles/icon_pull_hair.gif)

you might also want to try this: (http://forums.thelastfreecity.com/images/smiles/icon_bangshead.gif)


YES.  thank you.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: dc10 on January 23, 2008, 09:09:35 AM
FYI someone else on TLS got the letter as well.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 23, 2008, 09:15:30 AM
I hope I at least get deferred.  A straight-up rejection would not be cool.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: dc10 on January 23, 2008, 09:19:01 AM
But at least with a rejection I would know it is over.  I'm not sure which would be worse: straight rejection or waiting and hoping for months.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 23, 2008, 09:21:57 AM
I would rather a rejection.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: tkm. on January 23, 2008, 09:26:25 AM
I'm nervous
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 09:38:50 AM
someone on TLS got the letter in Chicago today.  they're movin fast!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 23, 2008, 09:42:12 AM
someone on TLS got the letter in Chicago today.  they're movin fast!

Chicago?  They must've started sending them out last week, then...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: nakanaka on January 23, 2008, 09:45:48 AM
someone on TLS got the letter in Chicago today.  they're movin fast!

Chicago?  They must've started sending them out last week, then...

Hmm I doubt it. He might have just got lucky w. a quick mail service. We haven't heard from a ton of people in NYC yet. But yeah some acceptances are definitely out.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 09:46:29 AM
someone on TLS got the letter in Chicago today.  they're movin fast!

Chicago?  They must've started sending them out last week, then...

Or they're express mailing them?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: dc10 on January 23, 2008, 09:48:02 AM
Someone thinks tkm is neurotic?  I'm thinking of leaving work to go home and check my mailbox because I just CANNOT WAIT.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Pam Beesly on January 23, 2008, 09:48:11 AM
I hope I at least get deferred.  A straight-up rejection would not be cool.
I'm with you, TL. A flat rejection would really hurt. A deferral would at least give me time to come to grips with the situation.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: areopagite on January 23, 2008, 09:49:50 AM
Has anyone's online status checker changed beyond complete or does Columbia send out letters before updating?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 23, 2008, 09:50:20 AM
I'm with you, TL. A flat rejection would really hurt. A deferral would at least give me time to come to grips with the situation.

Exactly.  Plus, all my friends and family know how bad I want to go to Columbia.  At least if I get deferred or waitlisted, I won't have to tell them I was rejected.  That will suck.  :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 23, 2008, 09:50:54 AM
Has anyone's online status checker changed beyond complete or does Columbia send out letters before updating?

IIRC, the status checker only lets you know that you're complete.  It doesn't change to decision.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 09:51:09 AM
Has anyone's online status checker changed beyond complete or does Columbia send out letters before updating?

IIRC, the status checker only lets you know that you're complete.  It doesn't change to decision.

TITCR.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscist on January 23, 2008, 09:51:26 AM
Those accepted on TLS have reported their status checker did not change beyond Complete.  The general consensus among past admitted students is that the status checker doesn't change. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 23, 2008, 09:51:44 AM
Has anyone's online status checker changed beyond complete or does Columbia send out letters before updating?

IIRC, the status checker only lets you know that you're complete.  It doesn't change to decision.

*laughs*  I think we've gone over this about 5 times so far in this thread
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: areopagite on January 23, 2008, 09:53:44 AM
Has anyone's online status checker changed beyond complete or does Columbia send out letters before updating?

IIRC, the status checker only lets you know that you're complete.  It doesn't change to decision.

*laughs*  I think we've gone over this about 5 times so far in this thread

Thanks, tl, et al.  Sorry for the repeat.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 09:57:01 AM
weird that nobody from this site has heard yet, but three people on TLS have.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 23, 2008, 09:57:39 AM
Has anyone's online status checker changed beyond complete or does Columbia send out letters before updating?

IIRC, the status checker only lets you know that you're complete.  It doesn't change to decision.

*laughs*  I think we've gone over this about 5 times so far in this thread

Thanks, tl, et al.  Sorry for the repeat.

Everyone's a bit edgy and worried at the moment :)  Good luck to you!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 23, 2008, 09:58:04 AM
weird that nobody from this site has heard yet, but three people on TLS have.

TLS has a lot of flame accounts, IMO.  I don't really trust it.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 10:00:15 AM
weird that nobody from this site has heard yet, but three people on TLS have.

TLS has a lot of flame accounts, IMO.  I don't really trust it.

i'm suspicious, but I think you're right, Tiramisu...come COB we might get some more action.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: areopagite on January 23, 2008, 10:00:51 AM

Everyone's a bit edgy and worried at the moment :)  Good luck to you!

Thanks, same to all of you, too!  In an odd, slightly neurotic sort of way this thread really has given me some tangible support :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 23, 2008, 10:02:57 AM
Mail just came here - Nothing from Columbia, but I got a rejection letter from UCLA
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: newtothis on January 23, 2008, 10:04:07 AM
Also, nothing on LSN so far.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 10:04:59 AM
Mail just came here - Nothing from Columbia, but I got a rejection letter from UCLA

sorry, truth.  UCLA probably increases the risk of skin cancer, anyway.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 10:09:28 AM
Okay, I trust Matlock.

I should really just take today off.

haha...i only left work early to check my mail once, back when NYU first let people know in December.  the disappointment was crushing. 

never again.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Pam Beesly on January 23, 2008, 10:11:22 AM
Mail just came here - Nothing from Columbia, but I got a rejection letter from UCLA

sorry, truth.  UCLA probably increases the risk of skin cancer, anyway.
Whaaaa???
That's too bad Truth. I'm sure you would have loved UCLA (it's hard not to), but on the bright side, you already have some great acceptances.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 10:16:53 AM
Mail just came here - Nothing from Columbia, but I got a rejection letter from UCLA

sorry, truth.  UCLA probably increases the risk of skin cancer, anyway.
Whaaaa???
That's too bad Truth. I'm sure you would have loved UCLA (it's hard not to), but on the bright side, you already have some great acceptances.

you know, the sun and stuff.

i was just trying to find something to say that was comforting but not trite.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 10:19:13 AM
Okay, I trust Matlock.

I should really just take today off.

haha...i only left work early to check my mail once, back when NYU first let people know in December.  the disappointment was crushing. 

never again.

Hm, good to know.  I may take your advice on that, but probably not because I have never been good with suspense. 

Well, let us know how it goes either way. ;)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Pam Beesly on January 23, 2008, 10:20:02 AM
Mail just came here - Nothing from Columbia, but I got a rejection letter from UCLA

sorry, truth.  UCLA probably increases the risk of skin cancer, anyway.
Whaaaa???
That's too bad Truth. I'm sure you would have loved UCLA (it's hard not to), but on the bright side, you already have some great acceptances.

you know, the sun and stuff.

i was just trying to find something to say that was comforting but not trite.
Ooops. I got your joke, LoveButton.  ;) I hope I wasn't trite, but not comforting.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 10:22:15 AM
Mail just came here - Nothing from Columbia, but I got a rejection letter from UCLA

sorry, truth.  UCLA probably increases the risk of skin cancer, anyway.
Whaaaa???
That's too bad Truth. I'm sure you would have loved UCLA (it's hard not to), but on the bright side, you already have some great acceptances.

you know, the sun and stuff.

i was just trying to find something to say that was comforting but not trite.
Ooops. I got your joke, LoveButton.  ;) I hope I wasn't trite, but not comforting.

hehe, i don't think there's anything wrong with trite really.  and you were comforting :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: _retired_ on January 23, 2008, 10:42:29 AM
So are they just mailing out acceptances today?  I'm expecting a deferral/WL; will those not come until later?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Sarahpi on January 23, 2008, 10:58:31 AM
Just ran home during my lunch break to check mail. Nothing from Columbia yet, but that's not surprising since I live in North Carolina.

I did, however, get a recruitment brochure from Liberty. AWESOME. I wonder what they make of the "self-identified LGBT" box I checked? Oooh, maybe they have a JD/Ex-Gay Reprogramming Dual Enrollment program.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 11:03:28 AM
So are they just mailing out acceptances today?  I'm expecting a deferral/WL; will those not come until later?

why so negative??  you have great numbers.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: _retired_ on January 23, 2008, 11:15:16 AM
So are they just mailing out acceptances today?  I'm expecting a deferral/WL; will those not come until later?

why so negative??  you have great numbers.

LSN has my numbers at 10 WL/def, 5 admit, 1 reject for last year's cycle.  I could get in, sure, but it seems most prudent to expect def/WL.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: TeresaPinfold on January 23, 2008, 11:15:46 AM
So are they just mailing out acceptances today?  I'm expecting a deferral/WL; will those not come until later?
You could get one as early as next week, going by LSN.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: _retired_ on January 23, 2008, 11:20:34 AM
So are they just mailing out acceptances today?  I'm expecting a deferral/WL; will those not come until later?
You could get one as early as next week, going by LSN.

Yeah, that looks to be the case, thanks.  I'm not sure why I didn't think to check LSN... ???
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on January 23, 2008, 11:26:01 AM
Just ran home during my lunch break to check mail. Nothing from Columbia yet, but that's not surprising since I live in North Carolina.

I did, however, get a recruitment brochure from Liberty. AWESOME. I wonder what they make of the "self-identified LGBT" box I checked? Oooh, maybe they have a JD/Ex-Gay Reprogramming Dual Enrollment program.

You should be happy they're so interested in educating you/saving your soul from eternal hell-fire.  ;)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 23, 2008, 11:32:18 AM
So are they just mailing out acceptances today?  I'm expecting a deferral/WL; will those not come until later?

why so negative??  you have great numbers.

LSN has my numbers at 10 WL/def, 5 admit, 1 reject for last year's cycle.  I could get in, sure, but it seems most prudent to expect def/WL.

Although I have a somewhat higher GPA, I have the same LSAT and I take the same view of things :(
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Sarahpi on January 23, 2008, 12:36:23 PM
>You should be happy they're so interested in educating you/saving your soul from eternal hell-fire.

It's true. Thank you, Liberty! I was so misguided to hope for a Columbia acceptance instead of your postcard!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Ben Matlock on January 23, 2008, 02:56:44 PM
My first cousin, already in at Harvard, just got into Stanford. I just can't compete  :P
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 03:00:54 PM
My first cousin, already in at Harvard, just got into Stanford. I just can't compete  :P

perfection is soooo lame.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: TeresaPinfold on January 23, 2008, 03:06:24 PM
Don't worry, your first cousin is agonizing about the people who got into Yale.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: nakanaka on January 23, 2008, 03:09:36 PM
If only CLS changed their status checker to decision so I should know if I should even be stalking the mailman yet.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: rabbit9198 on January 23, 2008, 04:08:15 PM
If only CLS changed their status checker to decision so I should know if I should even be stalking the mailman yet.

SO true! Luckily, though I work FT, I have a bunch of roommates that call/text/IM me immediately whenever there's a package they deem large enough to possibly contain an acceptance.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: nakanaka on January 23, 2008, 04:36:36 PM
I'm gonna give it till Saturday before I think either not getting in or not in first round. Seems like only a few people got them, probably just sent them out. Stupid mail.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 23, 2008, 05:32:52 PM
I'm gonna give it till Saturday before I think either not getting in or not in first round. Seems like only a few people got them, probably just sent them out. Stupid mail.

yeah, i think the current theory is that they sent them at COB on Tuesday.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: nakanaka on January 24, 2008, 06:25:33 AM
Day 2 of 4 begins (Saturday is the day where I'm thinking a decision is not coming this round.)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Amy Winehouse on January 24, 2008, 06:49:37 AM
For realsies people, you need to stop freaking out.  Think of the years you are taking off your life with this stress!  It will come soon or it won't.  You'll get in or you won't.  I hope it's the former, but you can't change anything, so freaking out about it is pointless! 

Patience, friends.  Especially since boatloads of people didn't get in during the so-called first round.  Hell, I didn't even apply until after the first round.  Deep breaths, now go for a walk.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: tradewinds on January 24, 2008, 06:57:12 AM
Don't worry, your first cousin is agonizing about the people who got into Yale.


Hahahahahaha. Soooooo true.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on January 24, 2008, 08:17:38 AM
For realsies people, you need to stop freaking out.  Think of the years you are taking off your life with this stress!  It will come soon or it won't.  You'll get in or you won't.  I hope it's the former, but you can't change anything, so freaking out about it is pointless! 

Patience, friends.  Especially since boatloads of people didn't get in during the so-called first round.  Hell, I didn't even apply until after the first round.  Deep breaths, now go for a walk.

 ::)

And I guess you had NO stress during your cycle.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 24, 2008, 05:37:27 PM
email acceptance!!! (hallelujah chorus in head)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 24, 2008, 05:38:40 PM
are you serious?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 24, 2008, 05:47:59 PM
yup, asia.

decision letter attached in pdf form.  ;D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on January 24, 2008, 06:08:38 PM
ohh ok.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 24, 2008, 09:28:10 PM
i'm in!!  nice green folder in my mailbox!!!!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: brink123 on January 25, 2008, 12:59:38 AM
congrats!!!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 07:08:42 AM
thanks brink!

i'm in!!  nice green folder in my mailbox!!!!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now i'm going to start trying to recruit you.  :)

dooooo iiiiiiiiiiiiiitt!

fyi, i can be bought ;)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Sarahpi on January 25, 2008, 01:04:50 PM
Still nothing. Just called home to ask my sister what came in today's mail. And does it make me a horrible person that getting into Northwestern today has in no way assuaged my anxiety re: Columbia and NYU?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 01:05:53 PM
Still nothing. Just called home to ask my sister what came in today's mail. And does it make me a horrible person that getting into Northwestern today has in no way assuaged my anxiety re: Columbia and NYU?

if you're dying to be in NYC, then no, you should not feel bad.  we all have that one school that, despite other wonderful acceptances, we still need to hear back from before we're truly calm and satisfied.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Sarahpi on January 25, 2008, 01:12:11 PM
Yup. Exactly.

I'm in North Carolina, so I'm hoping it's just a regional/mailing time thing. I think it took my Cardozo letter 4 days to get here, and if letters were mailed out on the 23rd, that means I'll give myself till Monday till I start really freaking out. Right? Right.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 01:19:51 PM
Yup. Exactly.

I'm in North Carolina, so I'm hoping it's just a regional/mailing time thing. I think it took my Cardozo letter 4 days to get here, and if letters were mailed out on the 23rd, that means I'll give myself till Monday till I start really freaking out. Right? Right.

right.  deep breath.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Pam Beesly on January 25, 2008, 01:31:03 PM
Go to the library/ bookstore. Find a novel. Start reading it. Get engrossed. Get surprised by big envelope on Monday. Case closed.

This is actually my strategy for getting through the weekend! Brilliant.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 03:21:57 PM
Now that decisions are starting to come out, I just want to say that I hope this thread has been some help to CLS obsessives.  And I wish everyone best of luck who has not yet heard!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Sarahpi on January 25, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
Excellent plan! I may do just that.

Or, you know, if it came tomorrow, I wouldn't complain.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: chastened aspirations on January 25, 2008, 05:38:16 PM
For all of you white males with borderline numbers still waiting on Columbia, I want to let you know that it's possible. Got in today and they even threw me a scholarship nomination for leadership. My numbers are a little lower than my account on LSN indicates. So keep your heads up. There's a chance.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlueGreen on January 25, 2008, 06:12:09 PM
i'm in!!  nice green folder in my mailbox!!!!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now i'm going to start trying to recruit you.  :)

oh and that girl: i told you so.  :P  ;)

loving you!!!!!! :P

lovebutton, YAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: brink123 on January 25, 2008, 06:33:20 PM
green envelope on my desk! it traveled coast to coast in just 2 days!  ;D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: cardeagle on January 25, 2008, 06:37:12 PM
Anyone know what the $70k Butler Fellowship that some people on LSN got?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 07:01:04 PM
For all of you white males with borderline numbers still waiting on Columbia, I want to let you know that it's possible. Got in today and they even threw me a scholarship nomination for leadership. My numbers are a little lower than my account on LSN indicates. So keep your heads up. There's a chance.

Congrats!

But really though, this "borderline" business is starting to sound like "middle class"- everyone thinks they're in it. One of the other threads has a good definition of borderline - at or below the 25th percentile in one category and in between the 25th and 75th of the other (LSAT/GPA).

I think on LSD, borderline starts to feel like anything less than autoadmit level.  I know it's not true logically, but emotionally you start to feel that way (i.e., in my own situation, I was slightly above 75th percentile in GPA, but below 50th in LSAT, and felt somewhat insecure due to CLS' favoritism towards the LSAT).
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 07:18:12 PM
Note the big swath of green in which your numbers fall on the LSN graph.'Nuff said.

Wasn't the swath of green that had me worried.  It was the waitlists if you take away acceptances ;)

EDIT:  Yes, I realize that this is a pretty silly response.  But, for some reason, I had put so much stock in getting admitted to CLS.  Now I'm unsure about it.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 07:21:33 PM
Touche.

*grins*  I'm still honored to be admitted.  And I feel good now!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 07:24:14 PM
i'm in!!  nice green folder in my mailbox!!!!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now i'm going to start trying to recruit you.  :)

oh and that girl: i told you so.  :P  ;)

loving you!!!!!! :P

lovebutton, YAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yayyyy!  I'm sooo loving life right now.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 07:25:39 PM
i'm in!!  nice green folder in my mailbox!!!!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now i'm going to start trying to recruit you.  :)

oh and that girl: i told you so.  :P  ;)

loving you!!!!!! :P

lovebutton, YAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yayyyy!  I'm sooo loving life right now.

Congrats again! :) 

If I might ask, why the handle change?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 07:28:22 PM
Yayyyy!  I'm sooo loving life right now.

northwestern's awesome!  :)

but you should still go to cls.  ;)

*laughs*  Spoken like a true current student ;)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 07:33:18 PM
Yayyyy!  I'm sooo loving life right now.

northwestern's awesome!  :)

but you should still go to cls.  ;)

it's way up on the list, but I'm gonna need them to....

(http://smartmortgageadvice.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/jerrymaguiremoney.jpg)

...at least a LITTLE bit...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 07:37:21 PM
::digs into pocket. pulls out lint::

I've two quarters, a nickel, and paperclip.What've you got, troublemaker?

::reaches into left pocket::

bits of string.

::reaches into right pocket::

bits of lint.

::reaches into back pocket::

$18k over three years.

Now you're thinking...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 07:42:12 PM
ah, it feels weird to talk about this right now because i'm still in the stage where i'm just so happy to be accepted.  i don't want to worry about the financial stuff yet.

although fifteen bottle caps is a really good start!  :D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 07:49:44 PM
For example, I'm on the commission pay plan. I get $1,000 in grants for every student I successfully convince to attend CLS.

lol.  you don't say!


They're very flexible with their packages.

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/content/images/2007/05/02/michael_scott_396x222.jpg)

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 07:50:52 PM
ah, it feels weird to talk about this right now because i'm still in the stage where i'm just so happy to be accepted.  i don't want to worry about the financial stuff yet.

although fifteen bottle caps is a really good start!  :D

You can show me the money now, Mr. Terrific ;)

Financial aid is designed to destroy brain cells...the easier it is for me, the better.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 07:55:34 PM
Put those 15 bottle caps in a nice interest bearing account, and in no time it'll be 16 bottle caps!

That's a good deal.  You should definitely do that, Lovebutton ;)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 07:58:07 PM
i'm confused as to what office reference this might be.  that's what she said?

yeah, you know...because of the flexible packages...you know...like a package...sexually...

...i'm pretty tired.


Put those 15 bottle caps in a nice interest bearing account, and in no time it'll be 16 bottle caps!

That's a good deal.  You should definitely do that, Lovebutton ;)

I duuunnnno...if it sounds too good to be true...

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 08:02:10 PM
i'm confused as to what office reference this might be.  that's what she said?

yeah, you know...because of the flexible packages...you know...like a package...sexually...

...i'm pretty tired.

or maybe you just have a dirty mind.

or maybe you're just posting on lsd.

i can confess to that without incriminating myself...because THIS IS LSD!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 08:07:55 PM
i can confess to that without incriminating myself...because THIS IS LSD!

you don't have to worry anyway.  this board is completely anonymous.

right.  i haven't been paying attention anyway.

where am i?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 08:09:32 PM
i'm confused as to what office reference this might be.  that's what she said?

yeah, you know...because of the flexible packages...you know...like a package...sexually...

...i'm pretty tired.

or maybe you just have a dirty mind.

or maybe you're just posting on lsd.

i can confess to that without incriminating myself...because THIS IS LSD!

LSD - An addictive drug for pre-law prospective students and genuine law students.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 25, 2008, 08:22:50 PM
i can confess to that without incriminating myself...because THIS IS LSD!

you don't have to worry anyway.  this board is completely anonymous.

right.  i haven't been paying attention anyway.

where am i?

on the road to cls.  :)

keep walking.  ;)

LOL - i love this enthusiasm!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 25, 2008, 08:28:00 PM
LOL - i love this enthusiasm!

i predict that the level of cls trolling on this board will slowly ratchet upwards.  ;)

Does that mean CLS is working on the CLS Troll 3.0 for next year, too? :D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: nakanaka on January 26, 2008, 06:31:41 AM
Moment of truth today ... If I don't get a letter today I might have to stop checking TLS/LSD for a few days. I've gotten into some amazing schools and yet the wait for CLS is killing me.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Steve Jones on January 26, 2008, 07:24:34 AM
I love Concord Law School but I'm currently on the waitlist.  ??? :P :o
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: snap82 on January 26, 2008, 02:48:00 PM
Still waiting...I would like to hear. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: KaizerSoze on January 26, 2008, 04:15:26 PM
Anyone know the time frame for merit aid at CLS?  Seems like those with some of the bigger/named scholarships heard with acceptances (congrats to you all) but hopefully the rest is to come later...

Thanks!!  KS
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: nakanaka on January 26, 2008, 05:24:23 PM
How bout need based stuff? Any idea when that will come out? (Not that I'm in yet but here's to positive thoughts)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 26, 2008, 05:29:39 PM
How bout need based stuff? Any idea when that will come out? (Not that I'm in yet but here's to positive thoughts)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like the aid package comes out in one big bundle (except for up-front, in acceptance letter named scholarships).

So, in other words, you need to do the FAFSA, Need Access, and the CLS form before you find out what the money looks like.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 26, 2008, 07:21:51 PM
You know...now that I slipped into CLS, I feel my cycle is done and I'm at peace with admissions (having not heard from HLS for over 2 months, I know I'm toast, YLS is an impossibility, and I'm not worrying either way about the other schools on my LSN).  I'm still worried about financial aid stuff, but only because those applications make me nervous and are really insane to write up.  Come February 15, I feel that I will be pretty relaxed.

Overall, I must say one thing -- CLS has calmed my a lot of my nerves really nicely.  Shows what happens when you put too much stock in one decision...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 26, 2008, 07:32:31 PM
financial aid is something of a pain to apply for.  i don't even remember how i did it.  i just remember it being unpleasant everywhere.

yea i had to go through extra drama for CLS.  i'll say that UVa is the easiest school to apply for fin aid--one form, mad simple.  plus they don't need your parents' info (which is how it should be everywhere).
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: techpers0n on January 26, 2008, 07:35:50 PM
I really hope that the mail is just taking a long time to get to CA, and that there is a packet somewhere in the mail for me!

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 26, 2008, 07:39:55 PM
You know...now that I slipped into CLS, I feel my cycle is done and I'm at peace with admissions (having not heard from HLS for over 2 months, I know I'm toast, YLS is an impossibility, and I'm not worrying either way about the other schools on my LSN).  I'm still worried about financial aid stuff, but only because those applications make me nervous and are really insane to write up.  Come February 15, I feel that I will be pretty relaxed.

Overall, I must say one thing -- CLS has calmed my a lot of my nerves really nicely.  Shows what happens when you put too much stock in one decision...

your numbers are excellent - you did not "slip into CLS."
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: CLS Troll v2.0 on January 26, 2008, 08:19:27 PM
Congratulations to all of you who received decisions this week!  I think the financial aid questions have been answered already, but to recap: you have to send in the FAFSA for you and your parents as well as the Need Access form, which covers weird information like, "do your parents own a farm?"  "how much does their farm make?"  "how big is their farm?"  It is very odd, but must be done.  Actually, scratch the last part.  You don't have to do it, but you have to do it if you want to get financial aid from Columbia. 

You might want to inform your parents now that you will need their tax information.  Though it asks for information that will be filed this April, last year's information should suffice unless your and/or your parents' income is drastically different last year than the year before. 

A sense of calm is wonderful; I am envious.  I freaked out for a long time because I liked things about every school.  Columbia has been a really good fit, though.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: techpers0n on January 26, 2008, 10:38:56 PM
Congratulations to all of you who received decisions this week!  I think the financial aid questions have been answered already, but to recap: you have to send in the FAFSA for you and your parents as well as the Need Access form, which covers weird information like, "do your parents own a farm?"  "how much does their farm make?"  "how big is their farm?"  It is very odd, but must be done.  Actually, scratch the last part.  You don't have to do it, but you have to do it if you want to get financial aid from Columbia. 

You might want to inform your parents now that you will need their tax information.  Though it asks for information that will be filed this April, last year's information should suffice unless your and/or your parents' income is drastically different last year than the year before. 

A sense of calm is wonderful; I am envious.  I freaked out for a long time because I liked things about every school.  Columbia has been a really good fit, though.

Wait, you have to submit your parents info for the FAFSA? Are you positive. I already did mine a few weeks ago...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: QueenoftheCourt on January 27, 2008, 12:44:37 AM
Oh dear goodness. In at Columbia today. With the Hamilton!!  ;D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: aporia on January 27, 2008, 06:33:32 AM
Congratulations to all of you who received decisions this week!  I think the financial aid questions have been answered already, but to recap: you have to send in the FAFSA for you and your parents as well as the Need Access form, which covers weird information like, "do your parents own a farm?"  "how much does their farm make?"  "how big is their farm?"  It is very odd, but must be done.  Actually, scratch the last part.  You don't have to do it, but you have to do it if you want to get financial aid from Columbia. 

You might want to inform your parents now that you will need their tax information.  Though it asks for information that will be filed this April, last year's information should suffice unless your and/or your parents' income is drastically different last year than the year before. 

A sense of calm is wonderful; I am envious.  I freaked out for a long time because I liked things about every school.  Columbia has been a really good fit, though.

Wait, you have to submit your parents info for the FAFSA? Are you positive. I already did mine a few weeks ago...

If you're not listed as a dependent on your parents' taxes and/or are over 25 years old, the FAFSA form will automatically have you skip the "Parental Information" section.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: nakanaka on January 27, 2008, 06:59:29 AM
I've looked at last year's LSN but I'm a little confused. Do you guys think there is one continuous stream going to start now w. rejections/waitlists coming in there or is there gonna be waves? Looking at last year's LSN it almost just like it is one continuous sending of decisions.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 27, 2008, 07:59:48 AM
Congratulations to all of you who received decisions this week!  I think the financial aid questions have been answered already, but to recap: you have to send in the FAFSA for you and your parents as well as the Need Access form, which covers weird information like, "do your parents own a farm?"  "how much does their farm make?"  "how big is their farm?"  It is very odd, but must be done.  Actually, scratch the last part.  You don't have to do it, but you have to do it if you want to get financial aid from Columbia. 

You might want to inform your parents now that you will need their tax information.  Though it asks for information that will be filed this April, last year's information should suffice unless your and/or your parents' income is drastically different last year than the year before. 

A sense of calm is wonderful; I am envious.  I freaked out for a long time because I liked things about every school.  Columbia has been a really good fit, though.

Wait, you have to submit your parents info for the FAFSA? Are you positive. I already did mine a few weeks ago...

If you're not listed as a dependent on your parents' taxes and/or are over 25 years old, the FAFSA form will automatically have you skip the "Parental Information" section.

All graduate school FAFSA applicants do not have to submit their parental information.  For Department of Education purposes, all grad students are independent, regardless of other tax forms, I believe.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: QueenoftheCourt on January 27, 2008, 08:24:04 AM
Oh dear goodness. In at Columbia today. With the Hamilton!!  ;D

congratulations!  :D

(take the money and run!  ;) )

you get your mail at 12:30 am?  ???

Haha. I checked around 10 PST (but then I went out for drinks  :P)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 27, 2008, 08:28:37 AM
Oh dear goodness. In at Columbia today. With the Hamilton!!  ;D

holy crap!!!  that complicates your decision, I suspect!!

I'm not getting in to HLS, but the thought occurred to me last night that I would categorically take a full scholarship from CLS, NYU, or UPenn over an HLS acceptance.  Even a YLS acceptance, honestly.  Anybody else?


I've looked at last year's LSN but I'm a little confused. Do you guys think there is one continuous stream going to start now w. rejections/waitlists coming in there or is there gonna be waves? Looking at last year's LSN it almost just like it is one continuous sending of decisions.

An inside source said they saw more green envelopes being shipped out a few days ago.  I'm sure there will be more good news going out next week.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: QueenoftheCourt on January 27, 2008, 08:57:48 AM
Oh dear goodness. In at Columbia today. With the Hamilton!!  ;D

holy crap!!!  that complicates your decision, I suspect!!

I'm not getting in to HLS, but the thought occurred to me last night that I would categorically take a full scholarship from CLS, NYU, or UPenn over an HLS acceptance.  Even a YLS acceptance, honestly.  Anybody else?





Can I ask why? Just curious.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 27, 2008, 09:03:02 AM
why i would take the $$ over HLS or YLS?  or why I'm not getting in to either of those places?

The answer to the latter is that my GPA is horrific for both of those schools ;)

The answer to the former is that I don't think the prestige difference between H/YLS and CLS is big enough to warrant 150K in debt. For my purposes...I want to practice at a law firm for a while and then go into legal reform research and advocacy.  I do not want to go into academia, and if I did it might be a different story.

I'm paying off a huge chunk of debt right now from undergrad, and it SUCKS.  I loved my UG experience (I went to HYS), and I'd make the same decision, but now that I've done the HYS thing, I feel less compelled to double my debt to do it again.  CLS is an incredible school and is so close to HY in prestige and reputation that the debt would not be worth it.

I can understand someone who came from a different academic background wanting to spend the $$ for HY.  I did it already, and don't feel strongly about doing it again.

Does this make sense?  I haven't had my coffee yet.

PSA to HYS: Please note, I *haven't* gotten money from any of these schools, so feel free to send me an offer...! ;)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: CLS Troll v2.0 on January 27, 2008, 09:05:07 AM
Congratulations to all of you who received decisions this week!  I think the financial aid questions have been answered already, but to recap: you have to send in the FAFSA for you and your parents as well as the Need Access form, which covers weird information like, "do your parents own a farm?"  "how much does their farm make?"  "how big is their farm?"  It is very odd, but must be done.  Actually, scratch the last part.  You don't have to do it, but you have to do it if you want to get financial aid from Columbia. 

You might want to inform your parents now that you will need their tax information.  Though it asks for information that will be filed this April, last year's information should suffice unless your and/or your parents' income is drastically different last year than the year before. 

A sense of calm is wonderful; I am envious.  I freaked out for a long time because I liked things about every school.  Columbia has been a really good fit, though.

Wait, you have to submit your parents info for the FAFSA? Are you positive. I already did mine a few weeks ago...

If I recall correctly, you don't have to fill our your parents' information for the FAFSA, but you do need it for Need Access.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 27, 2008, 09:07:42 AM
I'm not getting in to HLS, but the thought occurred to me last night that I would categorically take a full scholarship from CLS, NYU, or UPenn over an HLS acceptance.  Even a YLS acceptance, honestly.  Anybody else?

I'd probably seriously consider the same, because I'd like to work in government or for an NGO.  Either way, even with a LRAP, the debt could complicate my finances for a decade in ways that I don't think I'd like.

This is the case even though I'm fortunate not to have any undergraduate debt.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: QueenoftheCourt on January 27, 2008, 10:32:17 AM
my two cents is that if you're not interested in academia or government and just want to work at a large firm for a few years before either moving on to something else or staying there, then a hammy is a much better option.  the big firm prospects out of cls and hls or yls are not really all that different from what i can tell.  i have friends at hls that were turned down for places that gave me offers (and vice-versa).

obviously some of this is trolling, but it's also my honest opinion.  there are people who i would recommend to choose harvard over the hammy, but not all that many to be honest.  it really depends on what that person wanted to do.

Thanks for your input. At this point, I'm going to visit both schools and see what $ Harvard offers. Its really a win-win situation and I'm trying to remind myself of that as my mind spins through various "what am I going to do with my life?" scenarios.  :D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: QueenoftheCourt on January 27, 2008, 10:55:17 AM
Calgirl, read your lsn. "1L" is a senationalized lie   :P

Law school has drama, but a lot less of the tortured existentialist crises that Turow keeps having.

I went on an HLS trip over winter break, so I read One L, and watched The Paper Chase and Legally Blonde. I wonder which one is the most realistic?  :P
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Pam Beesly on January 27, 2008, 11:48:10 AM
Calgirl, read your lsn. "1L" is a senationalized lie   :P

Law school has drama, but a lot less of the tortured existentialist crises that Turow keeps having.

I went on an HLS trip over winter break, so I read One L, and watched The Paper Chase and Legally Blonde. I wonder which one is the most realistic?  :P

Legally Blonde!
That's what I'm hoping, anyway.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 27, 2008, 02:03:27 PM
my two cents is that if you're not interested in academia or government and just want to work at a large firm for a few years before either moving on to something else or staying there, then a hammy is a much better option.  the big firm prospects out of cls and hls or yls are not really all that different from what i can tell.  i have friends at hls that were turned down for places that gave me offers (and vice-versa).

obviously some of this is trolling, but it's also my honest opinion.  there are people who i would recommend to choose harvard over the hammy, but not all that many to be honest.  it really depends on what that person wanted to do.

Thanks for your input. At this point, I'm going to visit both schools and see what $ Harvard offers. Its really a win-win situation and I'm trying to remind myself of that as my mind spins through various "what am I going to do with my life?" scenarios.  :D

that's exactly right.  you've worked hard to get this choice, so make sure to look on the bright side of it!!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: QueenoftheCourt on January 27, 2008, 02:07:46 PM
my two cents is that if you're not interested in academia or government and just want to work at a large firm for a few years before either moving on to something else or staying there, then a hammy is a much better option.  the big firm prospects out of cls and hls or yls are not really all that different from what i can tell.  i have friends at hls that were turned down for places that gave me offers (and vice-versa).

obviously some of this is trolling, but it's also my honest opinion.  there are people who i would recommend to choose harvard over the hammy, but not all that many to be honest.  it really depends on what that person wanted to do.

Thanks for your input. At this point, I'm going to visit both schools and see what $ Harvard offers. Its really a win-win situation and I'm trying to remind myself of that as my mind spins through various "what am I going to do with my life?" scenarios.  :D

that's exactly right.  you've worked hard to get this choice, so make sure to look on the bright side of it!!

Thanks for your words of wisdom. :) They come at a good time, as I'm so frazzled right now that I literally can't myself to do anything productive for classes..  :D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: nakanaka on January 28, 2008, 06:40:49 AM
Week Two begins. Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RenerzSan on January 28, 2008, 07:34:48 AM
I've been complete since late October, and haven't received anything so far - acceptance, rejection, WL, deferral. Any guesses as to what I'll most likely be receiving?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 28, 2008, 07:37:38 AM
I've been complete since late October, and haven't received anything so far - acceptance, rejection, WL, deferral. Any guesses as to what I'll most likely be receiving?

Hard to tell given the information there.  What're your numbers if I might ask?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RenerzSan on January 28, 2008, 07:38:37 AM
Numbers are 169, 3.7x
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 28, 2008, 07:46:34 AM
it looks like most people (non-URM) with those numbers were waitlisted: http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/search_schools.php?action=search&school_code=2163&lsat1=168&lsat2=170&fee_waiver=0&status=0&gpa_lsdas1=3.7&gpa_lsdas2=3.8&attending=0&cycle=4&gpa_degree1=&gpa_degree2=&withdrawn=0&program=1&index1=&index2=&state=0&application_type=0&scholarship1=&scholarship2=&sex=0&multiple_lsat=0&urm=1&international=0&x=17&y=7

i'd say you've still got a great shot, though...you just might be in for a wait.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RenerzSan on January 28, 2008, 07:51:14 AM
yeah. that's what i thought. thanks.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Startin Up Soon! on January 28, 2008, 10:12:24 AM
Well just as I leave school for a couple of days, I find out that I have two packages waiting for me...I'm guessing one is Chicago and the other Columbia?  Only time will tell...  :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: tradewinds on January 28, 2008, 10:46:20 AM
I got accepted today, but no mention of the scholarship I was hoping for. Did all the scholarship offers come with the envelope itself, or did anyone get them separately?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 28, 2008, 10:47:21 AM
I got accepted today, but no mention of the scholarship I was hoping for. Did all the scholarship offers come with the envelope itself, or did anyone get them separately?

This has been mentioned before, but I think it's just the Hamilton and the Butler scholarships that come with the acceptance.  There are a few other scholarships that come later.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Sarahpi on January 28, 2008, 11:21:35 AM
...Still waiting. Still freaking out. Congrats to everyone who got in over the weekend!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on January 28, 2008, 11:27:40 AM
...Still waiting. Still freaking out. Congrats to everyone who got in over the weekend!

You've got fantastic chances.  Just take a deep breath and find something distracting to do :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Rhymenoceros on January 28, 2008, 11:39:16 AM

This has been mentioned before, but I think it's just the Hamilton and the Butler scholarships that come with the acceptance.  There are a few other scholarships that come later.

Mine came with a Public Interest fellowship nomination  ;D and a lovely binder.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: QueenoftheCourt on January 28, 2008, 11:46:22 AM
I got accepted today, but no mention of the scholarship I was hoping for. Did all the scholarship offers come with the envelope itself, or did anyone get them separately?

I got the Hamilton offer in my letter, but apparently they also offer a Sharp Fellowship (which also includes a stipend). I think that's by invite only (targeted towards those with very high numbers and work experience) and comes later.

IIRC correctly, you have HLS and SLS admits under your belt, so I suspect you may get this if you didn't get the Hamilton for some reason. 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: snap82 on January 28, 2008, 12:21:54 PM
What's the deal with the Public Interest Fellowship?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: tradewinds on January 28, 2008, 12:42:56 PM
I got accepted today, but no mention of the scholarship I was hoping for. Did all the scholarship offers come with the envelope itself, or did anyone get them separately?

I got the Hamilton offer in my letter, but apparently they also offer a Sharp Fellowship (which also includes a stipend). I think that's by invite only (targeted towards those with very high numbers and work experience) and comes later.

IIRC correctly, you have HLS and SLS admits under your belt, so I suspect you may get this if you didn't get the Hamilton for some reason. 

I did get into HLS and SLS. Though I wish you were right on the Sharp, I think its highly unlikely since I am still in undergrad.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Rhymenoceros on January 28, 2008, 12:46:00 PM
What's the deal with the Public Interest Fellowship?

What do you want to know?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: snap82 on January 28, 2008, 12:46:48 PM
Did you apply for it? 

How much is it for? 

How were you selected? 

Does it entail anything other than a scholarship?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Rhymenoceros on January 28, 2008, 12:52:31 PM
Did you apply for it? 

How much is it for? 

How were you selected? 

Does it entail anything other than a scholarship?

I did not apply for it.
It is for $70,000+, pending an interview in a little while.
I am not sure how I was selected, except that it must be on the basis of my application materials, which do demonstrate an interest in and commitment to public service.
There is other stuff besides a scholarship--support, research, guaranteed summer funding and helping you find stuff, I think some faculty connections and summer placement, summer stipend I think, etc.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: legally_brunette on January 28, 2008, 02:21:39 PM
Congrats, Rhymenoceros!

Apparently, Columbia wasn't that impressed by my commitment/interest, haha. Did you apply for the Root-Tilden?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 28, 2008, 02:44:16 PM
Congrats, Rhymenoceros!

Apparently, Columbia wasn't that impressed by my commitment/interest, haha. Did you apply for the Root-Tilden?


Isn't that at NYU?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 28, 2008, 02:46:26 PM
Congrats, Rhymenoceros!

Apparently, Columbia wasn't that impressed by my commitment/interest, haha. Did you apply for the Root-Tilden?


Isn't that at NYU?

yes
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on January 28, 2008, 02:58:27 PM
Congrats, Rhymenoceros!

Apparently, Columbia wasn't that impressed by my commitment/interest, haha. Did you apply for the Root-Tilden?


Isn't that at NYU?

yes

hehe...maybe CLS wasn't impressed because you kept talking about the Root-Tilden scholarship...  :D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Vicki11NYR on January 28, 2008, 03:02:21 PM
Congrsts to those who already got scholarship offers!  That's fabulous!

Does anyone know though if CLS only sends scholarship offers with the acceptance package or if there is a possibility that they will send out additional scholarship offers to accepted students after the fact?  Moreover, perhaps if those who already received some sort of money don't mind sharing, what kind of numbers do those who receive scholarships from CLS typically have?  Are there any other notable factors?  Thanks!

(I apologize for all the questions; I guess the thought of so much debt is starting to stress me out, lol.)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Vicki11NYR on January 28, 2008, 03:06:16 PM
Congrsts to those who already got scholarship offers!  That's fabulous!

Does anyone know though if CLS only sends scholarship offers with the acceptance package or if there is a possibility that they will send out additional scholarship offers to accepted students after the fact?  Moreover, perhaps if those who already received some sort of money don't mind sharing, what kind of numbers do those who receive scholarships from CLS typically have?  Are there any other notable factors?  Thanks!

(I apologize for all the questions; I guess the thought of so much debt is starting to stress me out, lol.)

i didn't get my grant package with my acceptance.  it came a month or two later.  $25k over three years.

Thanks for the info troublemaker!  If I might follow up, was your grant need-based or merit based?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Vicki11NYR on January 28, 2008, 03:15:37 PM
Okay, thanks so much! 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: legally_brunette on January 28, 2008, 04:12:12 PM
Congrats, Rhymenoceros!

Apparently, Columbia wasn't that impressed by my commitment/interest, haha. Did you apply for the Root-Tilden?


Isn't that at NYU?

yes

hehe...maybe CLS wasn't impressed because you kept talking about the Root-Tilden scholarship...  :D

haha.. ya don't worry i got them straight. I was wondering if the poster had applied to that b/c if they are into Public Interest law and got a scholarship from Columbia they were probably competitive for this as well.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Rhymenoceros on February 01, 2008, 12:17:48 PM
Wow, sorry, I totally missed this whole thing.  I didn't apply for any scholarships at any schools.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: antaresvi on February 04, 2008, 09:48:26 AM
Can we get this thread going again?  The news of recent dings has me nervous.

sorry!  :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: techpers0n on February 04, 2008, 09:50:49 AM
Hmmm. Last cycle Columbia sent out a mix of dings/WLs/acceptances after their big wave of acceptances. It also looks like they sent out a lot more acceptances before Feb 1st last year(about 50 more on LSN). I really hope that they are going to send out a second wave of acceptances.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on February 04, 2008, 02:42:14 PM
Hmmm. Last cycle Columbia sent out a mix of dings/WLs/acceptances after their big wave of acceptances. It also looks like they sent out a lot more acceptances before Feb 1st last year(about 50 more on LSN). I really hope that they are going to send out a second wave of acceptances.

Me too, and today so I can get off this site and actually get some work done.  I'm wondering when my boss will notice that I haven't gotten anything done since the beginning of January.

haha...you = me two weeks ago.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: kate625 on February 05, 2008, 08:15:51 AM
they've started sending out hold/waitlists. got mine today - i live in nyc.

the letter says i'm on reserve. does anyone know what that means for my chances of getting in? the letter says all reserve apps will be reviewed again in may. trying to decide if this is wl or more like deferral..
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: aporia on February 05, 2008, 08:16:59 AM
they've started sending out hold/waitlists. got mine today - i live in nyc.

the letter says i'm on reserve. does anyone know what that means for my chances of getting in? the letter says all reserve apps will be reviewed again in may. trying to decide if this is wl or more like deferral..

What are your numbers, if you don't mind my asking?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: techpers0n on February 05, 2008, 08:33:45 AM
they've started sending out hold/waitlists. got mine today - i live in nyc.

the letter says i'm on reserve. does anyone know what that means for my chances of getting in? the letter says all reserve apps will be reviewed again in may. trying to decide if this is wl or more like deferral..

in MAY? well for all practical purposes thats a waitlist, late april/may 1st is when a lot of letters of intent are due. This is pretty terrible news.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: techpers0n on February 05, 2008, 08:35:32 AM
they've started sending out hold/waitlists. got mine today - i live in nyc.

the letter says i'm on reserve. does anyone know what that means for my chances of getting in? the letter says all reserve apps will be reviewed again in may. trying to decide if this is wl or more like deferral..

in MAY? well for all practical purposes thats a waitlist, late april/may 1st is when a lot of letters of intent are due. This is pretty terrible news for me. Thanks for keeping us updated, and sorry things did not go as you wanted, I am sure I will be joining you soon.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: kate625 on February 05, 2008, 08:42:38 AM
i just re-read the letter - says they put the reserve folks on a list, but don't rank the list. wl it is.

numbers are 3/6X, low 170s.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on February 05, 2008, 08:44:05 AM
this is torture.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: aporia on February 05, 2008, 08:51:26 AM
i just re-read the letter - says they put the reserve folks on a list, but don't rank the list. wl it is.

numbers are 3/6X, low 170s.


Then I think you have a pretty good shot at getting in.  I'd hang in there -- I think it's going to be good news.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: kate625 on February 05, 2008, 09:03:45 AM
thanks, aporia. your numbers are pretty close to mine - you're giving me some hope.  :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on February 05, 2008, 09:32:40 AM
so reserve = waitlist?

isn't there a hold/deferred category too?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on February 05, 2008, 09:36:10 AM
i just re-read the letter - says they put the reserve folks on a list, but don't rank the list. wl it is.

numbers are 3/6X, low 170s.


Then I think you have a pretty good shot at getting in.  I'd hang in there -- I think it's going to be good news.

yeah, i have very similar numbers.  when did you apply?  are you straight out of UG?  i'm trying to make sense of that decision.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on February 05, 2008, 09:42:28 AM
so reserve = waitlist?

isn't there a hold/deferred category too?
i can't really remember from last cycle but CLS employs a 1st reserve, 2nd reserve, 3rd reserve system.  So sometimes if htey still haven't decided, you get bumped to the next reserve.  it's essentially a waitlist.

i definitely know that a lot of deferred people found out in time to attend a Monday at Columbia in April.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on February 05, 2008, 09:59:48 AM
i can't really remember from last cycle but CLS employs a 1st reserve, 2nd reserve, 3rd reserve system.  So sometimes if htey still haven't decided, you get bumped to the next reserve.  it's essentially a waitlist.

i definitely know that a lot of deferred people found out in time to attend a Monday at Columbia in April.

thanks.  i wanna call so bad, but i just need to be patient.  i wish they would send the reserve/deferrals by e-mail instead of mail.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: kate625 on February 05, 2008, 12:49:16 PM
lovebutton -
i applied in november. out of school four years, with pretty significant work experience. law would be a career change for me, and i thought i did a decent job of explaining in my app why i am looking forward to the switch. if anyone wants more detail, feel free to pm me.




Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on February 05, 2008, 01:43:01 PM
lovebutton -
i applied in november. out of school four years, with pretty significant work experience. law would be a career change for me, and i thought i did a decent job of explaining in my app why i am looking forward to the switch. if anyone wants more detail, feel free to pm me.

huh.

<-- confused.

adcomms work in mysterious ways.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: neverborn on February 05, 2008, 06:25:53 PM
come on guys...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on February 05, 2008, 06:34:31 PM
come on guys...

what?  this is legit RD support talk.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: neverborn on February 05, 2008, 06:47:19 PM
that was directed at columbia's admissions office
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on February 06, 2008, 04:22:07 AM
that was directed at columbia's admissions office

oh.  lol.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: kate625 on February 07, 2008, 07:37:40 AM
the letter says my file won't be reviewed again until may... is there much benefit to sending the loci now? or should i wait till april?

i expect to have more things to say in april about professional my advancements, so am thinking of waiting until i sound more impressive... should i do it sooner, though?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: kate625 on February 07, 2008, 09:27:42 AM
thanks, tom.

i've been really impressed by columbia (with the exception of the reserve letter they sent me). so i want to make my loci as good as possible.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RightHandRule on February 07, 2008, 09:36:36 AM
CLS has purgatorial two statuses.

Hold - this is a 'defer', they'll come back to your application and render an actual decision later (Admit, Deny, or Reserve)

Reserve - this is a 'waitlist', they'll winnow down the reserve list over the course of the summer as the class shapes up, taking people off the list as needed between April and August.
Isn't auguest a bit late? I would think other schools would have expected a decision by then
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RightHandRule on February 07, 2008, 11:36:20 AM
I've had friends get accepted off of waitlists after they had already started classes. Waitlists keep rolling for a heck of a long time.
Do you just drop out of your current school and get a refund?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on February 07, 2008, 02:40:10 PM
Got home to find a reserve letter so I'm going to go ahead and withdraw.  It's my first waitlist, ever, so I'm a little disappointed, but I'm sure I'll survive.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on February 07, 2008, 02:47:19 PM
Got the reserve letter also.  News this week has sucked.  Does it mean anything to be "first reserve"?  Are there other reserves?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on February 07, 2008, 02:48:46 PM
Sorry to hear that Matthew.  I was "first reserve" also.  Apparently there are tiers to the reserve system.  I think it was explained a few pages back.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on February 07, 2008, 02:49:03 PM
Got the reserve letter also.  News this week has sucked.  Does it mean anything to be "first reserve"?  Are there other reserves?

CLS starts with first reserve...then they may bump you down to second as they start to take ppl from first reserve.

Got home to find a reserve letter so I'm going to go ahead and withdraw.  It's my first waitlist, ever, so I'm a little disappointed, but I'm sure I'll survive.

Sorry about this.  CLS doesn't seem to be too splitter friendly.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: indyguy7484 on February 07, 2008, 02:52:41 PM
Got the reserve letter also.  News this week has sucked.  Does it mean anything to be "first reserve"?  Are there other reserves?

CLS starts with first reserve...then they may bump you down to second as they start to take ppl from first reserve.

Got home to find a reserve letter so I'm going to go ahead and withdraw.  It's my first waitlist, ever, so I'm a little disappointed, but I'm sure I'll survive.

Sorry about this.  CLS doesn't seem to be too splitter friendly.

Thanks MCB.  Like I said, I wasn't really expecting much.  I do like that they came up with a nice name for the waitlist, though.  "Columbia First Reserve" sounds like a fine wine and it'll probably still impress people when I tell them.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on February 07, 2008, 04:36:47 PM
reserved.  dissapointed, but i will ride this mofo out til the first day of class.  i still have love for you, dean iwereborn. ;D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on February 07, 2008, 04:38:49 PM
reserved.  dissapointed, but i will ride this mofo out til the first day of class.  i still have love for you, dean iwereborn. ;D

 :(
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on February 07, 2008, 04:41:24 PM
Got home to find a reserve letter so I'm going to go ahead and withdraw.  It's my first waitlist, ever, so I'm a little disappointed, but I'm sure I'll survive.

sorry dude.  at least you have that possible Darrow and H acceptance of the horizon.  you'll be ok.  ;)

:(

 :'(

i know.  i'll be okay though.  there's still a lil' hope.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: . . . . . . on February 07, 2008, 05:35:43 PM
no news yet for me
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on February 07, 2008, 08:18:42 PM
reserved.  dissapointed, but i will ride this mofo out til the first day of class.  i still have love for you, dean iwereborn. ;D

hey, awesome!!  you've come a long way from last cycle, tL...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: joebuddencirca03 on February 07, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
ulfrekr, indyguy, and tl have been WL'ed...this does not bode well for me.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: newtothis on February 07, 2008, 09:15:41 PM
No news here either.  I think I may call tomorrow.

edit: This isn't just because I'm impatient.  I am.  I'm also trying to finalize travel plans to NY... need to know if CLS should be part of those plans.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on February 09, 2008, 11:20:58 AM
No news here either.  I think I may call tomorrow.

edit: This isn't just because I'm impatient.  I am.  I'm also trying to finalize travel plans to NY... need to know if CLS should be part of those plans.

i don't think that's a good idea.  if you haven't heard from them, then they're not done reviewing your app.  They're not going to tell you anything differently over the phone just because you're traveling to the area.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: newtothis on February 09, 2008, 02:18:04 PM
No news here either.  I think I may call tomorrow.

edit: This isn't just because I'm impatient.  I am.  I'm also trying to finalize travel plans to NY... need to know if CLS should be part of those plans.

i don't think that's a good idea.  if you haven't heard from them, then they're not done reviewing your app.  They're not going to tell you anything differently over the phone just because you're traveling to the area.

Well, I didn't expect for them to tell me the decision over the phone, just whether one has been made or not. They said no, so a CLS visit will have to wait until later in the spring.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: seyhey0 on February 09, 2008, 06:57:14 PM
Making me very nervous... I haven't heard anything from them, been complete for two months... not even a reserve letter.  But no rejection so far... so there is still hope
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 09, 2008, 11:35:26 PM
After a barrage of deferrals/rejections this week...I'm just hoping so much I don't get more of the same from Columbia/NYU the coming week!!  It's weird to have been complete since Oct. and not have heard anything so far.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: seyhey0 on February 10, 2008, 05:54:22 AM
After a barrage of deferrals/rejections this week...I'm just hoping so much I don't get more of the same from Columbia/NYU the coming week!!  It's weird to have been complete since Oct. and not have heard anything so far.

We have pretty similar numbers... I'm looking at this as a positive, that NYU/Columbia have already rejected/reserved a ton of people and we're still standing... keep the hope up!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Rhymnoceros on February 10, 2008, 07:15:42 AM
Making me very nervous... I haven't heard anything from them, been complete for two months... not even a reserve letter.  But no rejection so far... so there is still hope

I was complete for three months without a word and then got in yesterday, so there's definitely still hope. And we have the exact same index seyhey.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: seyhey0 on February 10, 2008, 08:13:42 AM
Making me very nervous... I haven't heard anything from them, been complete for two months... not even a reserve letter.  But no rejection so far... so there is still hope

I was complete for three months without a word and then got in yesterday, so there's definitely still hope. And we have the exact same index seyhey.

Thanks for the support... here's hoping we all get in... I really don't know what to make of the fact that we havent heard anything.  I happen to think its fairly good, considering sooo many people have been rejected/waitlisted so far.  Seems like they have gone through their first wave of rejections/reserves and we are still standing.  Again -- not saying we'll get in, but I'd rather be in our situation than be someone rejected already.  Can't hurt to hope!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 10, 2008, 09:20:23 AM
Well..heres to hoping we all get a big package in the mail this week.  That will seriously be a dream come true for me.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: joebuddencirca03 on February 12, 2008, 01:45:31 PM
ulfrekr, indyguy, and tl have been WL'ed...this does not bode well for me.

QFT.

Just found out that apparently my decision was mailed on Feb 1st, but due to a post office snafu, I have yet to receive it. CLS will be mailing it again soon, so hopefully I should receive it late this week or early next week. I'm fairly certain it's a rejection, but we shall see.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on February 12, 2008, 02:09:32 PM
ulfrekr, indyguy, and tl have been WL'ed...this does not bode well for me.

QFT.

Just found out that apparently my decision was mailed on Feb 1st, but due to a post office snafu, I have yet to receive it. CLS will be mailing it again soon, so hopefully I should receive it late this week or early next week. I'm fairly certain it's a rejection, but we shall see.
how did you know a decision was mailed before? is there any way to check?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: joebuddencirca03 on February 12, 2008, 02:34:04 PM
ulfrekr, indyguy, and tl have been WL'ed...this does not bode well for me.

QFT.

Just found out that apparently my decision was mailed on Feb 1st, but due to a post office snafu, I have yet to receive it. CLS will be mailing it again soon, so hopefully I should receive it late this week or early next week. I'm fairly certain it's a rejection, but we shall see.
how did you know a decision was mailed before? is there any way to check?

I called the admissions office and asked.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: LilLisa on February 12, 2008, 02:42:30 PM
I called the admissions office and asked.
When did you go complete?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on February 12, 2008, 03:06:56 PM
ulfrekr, indyguy, and tl have been WL'ed...this does not bode well for me.

QFT.

Just found out that apparently my decision was mailed on Feb 1st, but due to a post office snafu, I have yet to receive it. CLS will be mailing it again soon, so hopefully I should receive it late this week or early next week. I'm fairly certain it's a rejection, but we shall see.
how did you know a decision was mailed before? is there any way to check?

I called the admissions office and asked.

thanks! i d better wait...
good luck to you!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on February 12, 2008, 06:21:18 PM
got home tonight to find the letter from columbia--i was put on hold...
how much chance do i have now? ???
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on February 12, 2008, 06:25:13 PM
Check out the Deloggio post about holds this cycle.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on February 12, 2008, 06:28:01 PM
got home tonight to find the letter from columbia--i was put on hold...
how much chance do i have now? ???

Did it say "hold" or "reserve"?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: joebuddencirca03 on February 12, 2008, 06:30:16 PM
I went complete in the first week of November.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on February 12, 2008, 06:59:06 PM
got home tonight to find the letter from columbia--i was put on hold...
how much chance do i have now? ???

Did it say "hold" or "reserve"?

it says "hold"
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on February 12, 2008, 07:00:34 PM
got home tonight to find the letter from columbia--i was put on hold...
how much chance do i have now? ???

it means they like you, but they're not calling back on the first night after getting your number...  :-X

You'll be hearing from then again by Aprilish probably. Hang in there!

hehe, very well put. ;D
i will write something to make myself look more stunning.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on February 12, 2008, 07:01:28 PM
it says "hold"

Well, that's way better than what I got.  You still have a shot.  Good luck!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on February 12, 2008, 07:08:54 PM
it says "hold"

Well, that's way better than what I got.  You still have a shot.  Good luck!

eh...sorry to hear that tl
so there are different kinds of waitlist?

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on February 12, 2008, 07:19:39 PM
eh...sorry to hear that tl
so there are different kinds of waitlist?



Hold = deferral.  They have not come to a decision, so you can still get accepted, rejected, or waitlisted.  You should definitely send something in.

Reserve = waitlist.  You are only getting in if they underpredict their yield.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: gladiator on February 13, 2008, 09:32:22 AM
I got a hold from Columbia today too. Pretty surprising (right?) since I'm only 3.69/170.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: LilLisa on February 13, 2008, 11:37:07 AM
I went complete in the first week of November.
Hmmm.  Then I'm most likely not lost in the mail... yet.  Wisconsin has been so snowy lately that my mail keeps getting interrupted, so I hoped this might be the case. :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: ihatechoosingusernames on February 13, 2008, 02:03:03 PM
I've been held as well...if I already outline why columbia in the initial app, would it be worth it to reiterate the point...maybe expand on it? or should just send in an additional rec and be done with it?

three deferrals, this is turning into a very drawn out cycle...since I have to wait until April at the earliest for Columbia.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: rabbit9198 on February 14, 2008, 04:17:10 PM
I got put "on hold" at Columbia today...not exactly expecting that, but I guess after not hearing anything for SO long (when many others who applied after me got in long ago), it's not completely out of left field.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: rabbit9198 on February 14, 2008, 06:24:45 PM
I think Rabbit got the "they're probably going to Yale or Harvard anyway, let's wait and see if they withdraw" hold. Kinda sucks, but they did this last year too.

Perhaps. It's entirely possible that they saw something negative that the other schools didn't. That's why we all apply to a bunch of places, right?

But on the other hand, gaming the rankings system, if it is a semi-YP hold, is not cool, IMO.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on February 14, 2008, 06:28:11 PM
I think Rabbit got the "they're probably going to Yale or Harvard anyway, let's wait and see if they withdraw" hold. Kinda sucks, but they did this last year too.

Perhaps. It's entirely possible that they saw something negative that the other schools didn't. That's why we all apply to a bunch of places, right?

But on the other hand,gaming the rankings system, if it is a semi-YP hold, is not cool, IMO.

Let's write a petition to USNWR to take the yield out of things because it's messing stuff up for us. Is there a justifiable reason to keep it in?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Ender Wiggin on February 14, 2008, 06:49:20 PM
Got my "Hold" letter today.  Not completely unexpected, but it sucks nonetheless.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: seyhey0 on February 14, 2008, 07:39:00 PM
I also have not heard anything, and I'm tending to think that with so many people having been rejected/deferred, no news is good news.  Although really not sure how with a 167 I havent been outright rejected yet...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 14, 2008, 07:44:43 PM
I'd like to think that no news is good news but it's pretty weird....it makes me nervous that so many people with my numbers (who went complete after me) have already gotten in.  I guess this is going to be a long waiting game...but I'll wait (I love you CLS)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: seyhey0 on February 14, 2008, 07:49:09 PM
The one thing I've learned in this whole game is that there is no use being rational.  Arguments like "people with better numbers than me were rejected" or "he/she applied later and got in" or "I've been complete for 4 months they must hate me"  shouldnt be relied on, since this whole process seems so random.  If you haven't heard from them yet, just be happy that you arent one of the hundreds of people rejected or deferred, and you still have a decent shot this late in the cycle.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on February 14, 2008, 07:49:50 PM
I think Rabbit got the "they're probably going to Yale or Harvard anyway, let's wait and see if they withdraw" hold. Kinda sucks, but they did this last year too.

Perhaps. It's entirely possible that they saw something negative that the other schools didn't. That's why we all apply to a bunch of places, right?

But on the other hand,gaming the rankings system, if it is a semi-YP hold, is not cool, IMO.

Let's write a petition to USNWR to take the yield out of things because it's messing stuff up for us. Is there a justifiable reason to keep it in?

"Yield", per se, is not part of the rankings.  It affects acceptance rates, which affects the rankings.  So yield affects the rankings indirectly and cannot be singularly removed.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 14, 2008, 07:52:09 PM
I agree that it is a little random but I certainly don't think it is anywhere near the crapshoot that was college applications.  If you look at numbers trends it's pretty consistent, give or take a few.  I think it's generally more reliable than we think.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: seyhey0 on February 14, 2008, 07:55:14 PM
Yes, there are trends, but every day there are plenty of messages on here about "OMG I had 169/3.6 and I got into Boalt or NYU" or a "Person XYZ had a 177/3.9 and was rejected at Stanford."  There are also plenty of people who wait four months and get accepted.  There are surprising acceptances, rejections, and waitlists.  So yes, it is not so random that someone with a 163/3.1 will get into a T14 (save for amazing soft factors), but within a certain range there really is no reliable indicator.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 14, 2008, 08:01:37 PM
two truths about school admissions:

1) College admissions isn't as much of a crapshoot as you thought it was. Law school is exponentially less of a crapshoot.

2) Chances are that you're not as interesting a candidate as you think you are. This is just a fact of life. Not everyone is so unfortunate as to have a story to tell. Consider yourself lucky.

Watching the mental acrobatics of rationalization that applicants go through is an incredible phenomenon to witness.


Agreed.  The problem is, even though I know I'm doing it constantly I just can't stop!  Spending hours upon hours here with all you clowns doesn't help either!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 14, 2008, 08:12:20 PM
and i hate tiramisu!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 14, 2008, 08:17:08 PM
no offense tiramisu, it's nothing personal.   :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 14, 2008, 08:19:50 PM
I'm not sure but right now I think NYU/CLS pretty much have it on lock.  I seesaw back and forth between the two of those for varying reasons, but...I love them both.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 14, 2008, 08:22:28 PM
I really should have, but no use crying over spilled milk at this point in the cycle.  I'm not dying to get in--I'd love to but I've got decent options at this point.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on February 14, 2008, 08:23:43 PM
I really should have, but no use crying over spilled milk at this point in the cycle.  I'm not dying to get in--I'd love to but I've got decent great options at this point.

fixt.

boalt and michigan are great schools.  never let anyone tell you different.  especially not flame posters.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 14, 2008, 08:39:06 PM
I really should have, but no use crying over spilled milk at this point in the cycle.  I'm not dying to get in--I'd love to but I've got decent great options at this point.

fixt.

boalt and michigan are great schools.  never let anyone tell you different.  especially not flame posters.


Thanks.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: neverborn on February 15, 2008, 02:56:11 AM
Held.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on February 15, 2008, 06:08:44 AM
sorry to the holds...bears, i was looking at your LSN and realized you haven't gotten good news from a new school since November!  You must be going nuts!


u should have re-taken the LSAT.  i had a buddy with similar numbers who didn't break CCN. he ended up at Penn.

And what the heck is wrong with that?!?!?!  :o



2) Chances are that you're not as interesting a candidate as you think you are.

Hallelujah amen.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on February 15, 2008, 07:18:20 AM
penn isn't what Go Bears wants, right?  then it's a problem.  i'm relating a story: a buddy of mine had similar numbers (169/3.7) and he couldn't break CCN, so he picked Penn.  she should have re-taken if she wanted them as badly.

you just make it sound like it is a horrible fate, man.

i think anybody with a 3.8+ and an LSAT below 170 should retake.  with a GPA that stellar, you open up a WORLD of unbelievable schools for yourself with a higher LSAT, not to mention insane amounts of money everywhere else.  anything lower than a 170 is a waste of a good GPA, especially when you consider how innately learnable and masterable the LSAT is.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on February 15, 2008, 07:34:47 AM
penn isn't what Go Bears wants, right?  then it's a problem.  i'm relating a story: a buddy of mine had similar numbers (169/3.7) and he couldn't break CCN, so he picked Penn.  she should have re-taken if she wanted them as badly.

you just make it sound like it is a horrible fate, man.

i think anybody with a 3.8+ and an LSAT below 170 should retake.  with a GPA that stellar, you open up a WORLD of unbelievable schools for yourself with a higher LSAT, not to mention insane amounts of money everywhere else.  anything lower than a 170 is a waste of a good GPA, especially when you consider how innately learnable and masterable the LSAT is.


aw, crap.  thanks for making me feel bad early in the morning.  my 169 is never adequate, is it (even with CCN in the bag)?   :'(

if your GPA is above a 3.8, then i bet you'd potentially get AT LEAST 50k + more in scholarship money with a higher LSAT. even if you still decided to go to CCN over an HYS acceptance, you'd be in a much better financial situation
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: reese07 on February 16, 2008, 03:15:13 PM
I got the "hold" letter from CLS today. Pretty excited actually...

The only change to my app is that I now work full time as opposed to part time. I think I will just send an LOCI and maybe another letter of rec. Is this sufficient?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: eestiarmastus on February 16, 2008, 03:22:50 PM
I got a letter today that I'm on "reserve" at Columbia - which I take to mean "waitlist". I don't know much about my odds of getting in off the waitlist - does anyone know about this or have the link to another thread that discusses "reserves" in depth? Thanks!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on February 16, 2008, 07:05:54 PM
I haven't heard anything yet even though people who went complete well after me have been deferred/waitlisted/rejected. Good or bad sign?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: stephenr86 on February 16, 2008, 07:29:17 PM
I haven't heard anything yet even though people who went complete well after me have been deferred/waitlisted/rejected. Good or bad sign?

I went complete in October and didn't hear back until a couple days ago! I ended up getting accepted. I would bet that it just means you are borderline (like I was) and your applications is just getting a few extra reads. Nothing to worry about yet. Best of luck!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: stephenr86 on February 16, 2008, 07:36:10 PM
I went complete in October and didn't hear back until a couple days ago! I ended up getting accepted. I would bet that it just means you are borderline (like I was) and your applications is just getting a few extra reads. Nothing to worry about yet. Best of luck!

No offense, but unless you've rounded up your LSAT, I'd hardly call you borderline.

I have multiple LSAT scores, which I don't post on LSN.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Rhymnoceros on February 17, 2008, 08:12:50 AM
I haven't heard anything yet even though people who went complete well after me have been deferred/waitlisted/rejected. Good or bad sign?

You're not alone... I'm right there with you!

Columbia takes a while in some cases. Don't drive yourselves crazy trying to analyze it, they work in mysterious and possibly non-sensical ways. I was complete three months without a word, and wondering the same thing as you, but it turned out fine. As long as you haven't been rejected yet, I'd say its good news.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration on February 17, 2008, 02:22:22 PM
I haven't heard anything yet even though people who went complete well after me have been deferred/waitlisted/rejected. Good or bad sign?

You're not alone... I'm right there with you!

Columbia takes a while in some cases. Don't drive yourselves crazy trying to analyze it, they work in mysterious and possibly non-sensical ways. I was complete three months without a word, and wondering the same thing as you, but it turned out fine. As long as you haven't been rejected yet, I'd say its good news.

I hope you're right Rhym... congratulations by the way! I hope lots of (favorable) decisions are rolled out this week. Not getting any mail with tomorrow being a holiday is going to be a wonderful experience...  ;)

mail doesn't get delivered on president's day?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: libdem on February 19, 2008, 08:25:43 PM
I'm on reserve, as well. I'm pretty pleased, really, since I was pretty sure I'd get rejected outright (and quickly). It's a long time to wait and really slim chances, but I'm excited!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Go Bears! on February 19, 2008, 11:48:06 PM
chuffed?!?! 

yeah i am willing to wait a while for Columbia too (on hold....whatever that means for the future)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: bohemian_revolution on February 20, 2008, 04:04:28 AM
Got my hold letter yesterday :/
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: LilLisa on February 22, 2008, 12:43:37 PM
I still haven't heard anything either.... Is no news really good news? :-[
Might as well assume it's good news, since the assumption's the only thing you can control. They didn't get your application and automatically reject you.

At least, that's the line I'm taking for my pending applications. :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on February 22, 2008, 12:44:59 PM
Held today by mail dated 2/20...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Sarahpi on February 23, 2008, 04:35:15 PM
Got my hold letter today. Planning on a LOCI, but don't have anything else to send them, really....my job, etc. is all just more of the same stuff contained in my app.

But the LOCI can't hurt, so I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on February 23, 2008, 04:53:40 PM
For those of you that were "held" (and not reserved), if you want CLS, stick around, send a LOCI.  Last cycle, a lot of held people were admitted in early April.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Kevin '11 on February 23, 2008, 06:43:55 PM
Withdrew today. (After being placed on reserve on Valentine's Day)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on February 24, 2008, 09:05:25 AM
For those of you that were "held" (and not reserved), if you want CLS, stick around, send a LOCI.  Last cycle, a lot of held people were admitted in early April.

MCB do you remember how this cycle seems to compare to last year? Is CLS being more cautious than normal or is this the typical pace of decisions? Thanks girl! I've been complete for almost 11 weeks without a peep and I'm losing hope  :-\

I think I was complete 10 or 11 weeks when I got my decision last cycle.  CLS is generally slow  and doles out a lot of reserves.  But as for whether they are being more cautious or not, I'm not exactly sure.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on February 24, 2008, 04:52:27 PM
For those of you that were "held" (and not reserved), if you want CLS, stick around, send a LOCI.  Last cycle, a lot of held people were admitted in early April.

Will another LOR do the same wonder as LOCI?
I have been trying to write one, but i will only repeat some of the things I already said in the two essays i sent. So now I am thinking of getting the LOR instead.
Do you think the LOCI is more effective than LOR?
THANKS :-*
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: rabbit9198 on February 27, 2008, 05:25:45 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked somewhere, but I can't seem to find it...

For those of you who were held and wrote a LOCI/sent further info, what address did you send it to? The e-mail address in the "hold" letter is for withdrawing, but I wasn't sure if that was also the correct person to send info to.

Thanks!

p.s. If you want to spend a couple minutes reading/critiquing my LOCI, I'd appreciate that, too.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on February 27, 2008, 05:34:53 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked somewhere, but I can't seem to find it...

For those of you who were held and wrote a LOCI/sent further info, what address did you send it to? The e-mail address in the "hold" letter is for withdrawing, but I wasn't sure if that was also the correct person to send info to.

Thanks!

Now that you mention it, for some reason I mailed it. I wonder if that was stupid.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on February 27, 2008, 06:43:56 PM
For those of you that were "held" (and not reserved), if you want CLS, stick around, send a LOCI.  Last cycle, a lot of held people were admitted in early April.

Will another LOR do the same wonder as LOCI?
I have been trying to write one, but i will only repeat some of the things I already said in the two essays i sent. So now I am thinking of getting the LOR instead.
Do you think the LOCI is more effective than LOR?
THANKS :-*
Sorry I'm just getting back to you.  Is CLS your first choice?  If so, I'd mention that in a LOCI.  Definitely send a LOCI regardless--and if there is a way you can get another rec, send that too!!!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on February 29, 2008, 06:20:48 AM
Add me to the hold group.

Best of luck!  Are you going to do a LOCI?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on February 29, 2008, 10:16:36 AM
For those of you that were "held" (and not reserved), if you want CLS, stick around, send a LOCI.  Last cycle, a lot of held people were admitted in early April.

Will another LOR do the same wonder as LOCI?
I have been trying to write one, but i will only repeat some of the things I already said in the two essays i sent. So now I am thinking of getting the LOR instead.
Do you think the LOCI is more effective than LOR?
THANKS :-*
Sorry I'm just getting back to you.  Is CLS your first choice?  If so, I'd mention that in a LOCI.  Definitely send a LOCI regardless--and if there is a way you can get another rec, send that too!!!

Thank you! Will do this over the weekend.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: SolidusX on February 29, 2008, 10:53:41 AM
This cycle seems to be a lot like last year - lots of holds.  A lot of them will turn into acceptances in a month or so.  I definitely agree that you all should send in some additional materials.  I know a couple of friends who sent in LOCI/writing samples and got in April.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BlairWaldorf on March 05, 2008, 12:19:14 PM
But I haven't heard ANYTHING! I almost think a hold would give me more peace of mind.
Is it appropriate to send in an LOCI or writing sample or LOR if I haven't been held yet?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration on March 30, 2008, 11:02:01 AM
Tag.

Can anyone explain the reserve system exactly?  I understand that there are three tiers to the reserves, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.  My understanding is that you get priority consideration on first reserve and they accept you, reject you, or hold you to the 2nd reserve.  Then the same process occurs for the 2nd, and finally the 3rd.

Is this accurate?  Does anyone know if it is of any benefit to be on first reserve?  I assume it is a slight advantage.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on March 30, 2008, 11:29:14 AM
My understanding is that everyone who is reserved is on the first reserve.  They're not different groups of people, they're time frames.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on March 30, 2008, 12:05:06 PM
Agreed. There is a review of candidates sometime in May and some are offered admissions, some are rejected and those that remain go to 2nd reserve. Then there's another deposit deadline in mid-June and some are offered admissions, some are rejected, and those that remain are on 3rd reserve.

TITCR.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on March 30, 2008, 12:25:07 PM
I haven't heard anything since I went complete back in November. They didn't even respond to my e-mail from a few months ago about whether or not they got my third rec (it never showed up on the status checker).

Poop.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration on March 30, 2008, 12:28:19 PM
ah i see. thanks all.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on March 30, 2008, 01:17:13 PM
I haven't heard anything since I went complete back in November. They didn't even respond to my e-mail from a few months ago about whether or not they got my third rec (it never showed up on the status checker).

Poop.

call
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on March 31, 2008, 09:22:56 AM
I just realized that the Columbia Financial Aid Questionnaire exists. I haven't been admitted yet though, should I fill it out and send it in?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on March 31, 2008, 10:26:40 AM
I just realized that the Columbia Financial Aid Questionnaire exists. I haven't been admitted yet though, should I fill it out and send it in?

i think you send it in once you have been accepted. 


did you call them?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on March 31, 2008, 11:11:27 AM
I just realized that the Columbia Financial Aid Questionnaire exists. I haven't been admitted yet though, should I fill it out and send it in?

i think you send it in once you have been accepted. 


did you call them?

Yep, they never got it :(

I'm having it faxed in today.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on April 02, 2008, 11:10:34 AM
bump, keeping this thread alive.

who else is still waiting?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: potentiallawyer on April 02, 2008, 03:51:36 PM
Who out there that got into Columbia had no major academic awards/scholarships?  I am one of those splitters, low gpa, high lsat, and I have a medical reason that can partly explain the low gpa.  Because of my gpa I just don't have any of the typical awards that come with a high gpa.

If you're willing, could you share some of the awards you've earned if you got into Columbia?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on April 02, 2008, 08:02:33 PM
Who out there that got into Columbia had no major academic awards/scholarships?  I am one of those splitters, low gpa, high lsat, and I have a medical reason that can partly explain the low gpa.  Because of my gpa I just don't have any of the typical awards that come with a high gpa.

If you're willing, could you share some of the awards you've earned if you got into Columbia?

<---absolutely no academic awards/scholarships.  no good reason for it either except for slackerness in UG. 

are you waiting for a decision this cycle or are you applying this fall?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: aporia on April 03, 2008, 07:46:01 AM
I had Dean's List (4 years) and honors with the degree, a minor award during UG, and a couple of scholarships in grad school.  No PBK in undergrad, sadly.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on April 03, 2008, 09:27:44 AM
After I submitted my app, I found out I won a small scholarship for this academic year. I didn't have any awards on my resume before. Is it worth updating Columbia on this? Or should I wait to get waitlisted before I send in more stuff?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: aporia on April 03, 2008, 09:37:56 AM
After I submitted my app, I found out I won a small scholarship for this academic year. I didn't have any awards on my resume before. Is it worth updating Columbia on this? Or should I wait to get waitlisted before I send in more stuff?

Since the cycle is coming to its end, I would send it in as soon as possible.  Good luck!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on April 03, 2008, 02:25:49 PM
After I submitted my app, I found out I won a small scholarship for this academic year. I didn't have any awards on my resume before. Is it worth updating Columbia on this? Or should I wait to get waitlisted before I send in more stuff?

Certainly couldn't hurt.  Congratulations about that, too, by the way!  I know it's pretty rare at almost every school to get scholarships after you've matriculated.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 08, 2008, 08:04:31 AM
Any news yet for those on hold?

i guess the verdict will come by this Friday
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RenerzSan on April 08, 2008, 08:14:26 AM
i hope you're right jdxf. out of curiosity, why do you think it'll be out by this friday and not sometime next week?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on April 08, 2008, 09:06:39 AM
Did you guys read the Anna Ivey thing that cosmo posted? It's hard not to think that all the holds are going to be WL at this point. Unless they're rejections.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RenerzSan on April 08, 2008, 09:18:00 AM
OnTheRoad: do you mind either posting the link to the Anna Ivey thing, or explain why most of the holds will become WL?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on April 08, 2008, 09:44:53 AM
OnTheRoad: do you mind either posting the link to the Anna Ivey thing, or explain why most of the holds will become WL?

I'll do both.

Here's the link
http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,103661.msg2676617.html#msg2676617

And here's the summary:
She says hold, defer, and not having heard anything are basically all the same at this point, and as I understood her, they can all expect to be WL until after first deposits.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RenerzSan on April 08, 2008, 09:56:13 AM
thanks so much OnTheRoad. that was very helpful.
i wish all law schools would give out accept/reject/defer/wl decisions on the same day. then all give out decisions to those deferred and those wl'ed on the same day. tho, i guess this may not be all that feasible.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 08, 2008, 10:26:14 AM
i hope you're right jdxf. out of curiosity, why do you think it'll be out by this friday and not sometime next week?

Renerz, dont take it too seriously. it's just my guess...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RenerzSan on April 08, 2008, 10:40:56 AM
haha. i sure hope you're right.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Sarahpi on April 08, 2008, 10:50:36 AM
Yeah, but there are quite a few people on LSN from last year who were put on hold, then accepted, without a WL in between. Most of the dates on those are after 4/15, but before the 5/1 deposit deadline.

So it seems likely to me that at least a few people will get admitted from the hold group. Obviously Anna Ivey knows her stuff, but Columbia does have a weirdo system with the whole hold thing, so I could see it being slightly different from the outcomes for applicants who're still waiting on other schoools.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on April 08, 2008, 10:58:08 AM
Yeah, but there are quite a few people on LSN from last year who were put on hold, then accepted, without a WL in between. Most of the dates on those are after 4/15, but before the 5/1 deposit deadline.

So it seems likely to me that at least a few people will get admitted from the hold group. Obviously Anna Ivey knows her stuff, but Columbia does have a weirdo system with the whole hold thing, so I could see it being slightly different from the outcomes for applicants who're still waiting on other schoools.

That's dirty of them.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Gunarm4 on April 09, 2008, 02:06:29 PM
someone deferred got in today via email
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 09, 2008, 02:53:29 PM
someone deferred got in today via email

well
i guess it's time to give up the hope now.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 09, 2008, 02:54:26 PM
if it's anything like last year, the defer->admits will have really high gpas.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 09, 2008, 06:24:08 PM
MCB, did they notify those people via email too last year?

they did
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 09, 2008, 06:46:30 PM
MCB, did they notify those people via email too last year?

they did

thanks
I will be on my gmail all the time during the day now.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: devilishlyblue on April 09, 2008, 06:54:34 PM
Here's what I do instead: http://www.google.com/talk/   :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 10, 2008, 06:44:22 AM
Here's what I do instead: http://www.google.com/talk/   :)

Great cycle for you!
the google talk is blocked by my employer..
which did or will you pick? Yale or CLS with $$$?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: devilishlyblue on April 10, 2008, 07:17:01 AM
Aw, that's a shame.  That's what keeps me from having to check gmail constantly.

Withdrew from Columbia yesterday; visiting HLS tomorrow and Saturday.  $140K is a lot of money, and I'm already having some regrets... but I wanted to make the decision quickly to help the process move smoothly.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on April 10, 2008, 07:28:13 AM
Here's what I do instead: http://www.google.com/talk/   :)

Great cycle for you!
the google talk is blocked by my employer..
which did or will you pick? Yale or CLS with $$$?

try www.meebo.com.  it's amazing.

maaaan, i would seriously maim someone for a Hammie.  I can't imagine making that choice, though...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: devilishlyblue on April 10, 2008, 07:37:55 AM
Meebo allows the chat, I know, but the main feature of gtalk for me is actually the e-mail notification -- does meebo emulate that, too?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on April 10, 2008, 07:43:24 AM
Meebo allows the chat, I know, but the main feature of gtalk for me is actually the e-mail notification -- does meebo emulate that, too?

no, but get yourself an igoogle homepage and a gmail gadget, which will allow you to preview your inbox.  i actually found a gadget that somehow gets around my company's firewall and allows me to access gmail.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 10, 2008, 07:52:43 AM
Aw, that's a shame.  That's what keeps me from having to check gmail constantly.

Withdrew from Columbia yesterday; visiting HLS tomorrow and Saturday.  $140K is a lot of money, and I'm already having some regrets... but I wanted to make the decision quickly to help the process move smoothly.

It would be a tough decision for everyone. But I dont think you can go wrong either way.
Besides, I wish I could have such problem myself...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 10, 2008, 07:54:09 AM
Here's what I do instead: http://www.google.com/talk/   :)

Great cycle for you!
the google talk is blocked by my employer..
which did or will you pick? Yale or CLS with $$$?

try www.meebo.com.  it's amazing.

maaaan, i would seriously maim someone for a Hammie.  I can't imagine making that choice, though...

it is also blocked...
have you decided between Northwestern+$$$ and CLS?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on April 10, 2008, 07:55:01 AM
maaaan, i would seriously maim someone for a Hammie.  I can't imagine making that choice, though...

have you decided between Northwestern+$$$ and CLS?

Inquiring minds want to know.

<---tm.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on April 10, 2008, 08:04:42 AM
maaaan, i would seriously maim someone for a Hammie.  I can't imagine making that choice, though...

have you decided between Northwestern+$$$ and CLS?

Inquiring minds want to know.

<---tm.

TM disappeared from facebook!  someone put out an APB!

I haven't decided yet.  I'm waiting to see what Columbia offers in financial aid...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on April 10, 2008, 08:05:47 AM
TM disappeared from facebook!  someone put out an APB!

I haven't decided yet.  I'm waiting to see what Columbia offers in financial aid...

I do that now and again.  Internet paranoia.

And I can't believe you still haven't gotten your letter.  >:(
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 10, 2008, 08:08:03 AM
maaaan, i would seriously maim someone for a Hammie.  I can't imagine making that choice, though...

have you decided between Northwestern+$$$ and CLS?

Inquiring minds want to know.

<---tm.

TM disappeared from facebook!  someone put out an APB!

I haven't decided yet.  I'm waiting to see what Columbia offers in financial aid...

IC. i hope CLS offers you a even better one!
maybe because i like it so much, if i were u i would choose CLS anyways!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on April 10, 2008, 08:11:23 AM
i am hoping that columbia at least gets close to what Penn gave me...since it would cost sooo much extra in COL to go to Columbia...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on April 10, 2008, 08:13:55 AM
i am hoping that columbia at least gets close to what Penn gave me...since it would cost sooo much extra in COL to go to Columbia...

You did inform them of your other offers, right?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on April 10, 2008, 08:17:27 AM
i am hoping that columbia at least gets close to what Penn gave me...since it would cost sooo much extra in COL to go to Columbia...

You did inform them of your other offers, right?

Not yet, I figured I'd wait and see what their initial offer was.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on April 10, 2008, 08:24:22 AM
i am hoping that columbia at least gets close to what Penn gave me...since it would cost sooo much extra in COL to go to Columbia...

You did inform them of your other offers, right?

Not yet, I figured I'd wait and see what their initial offer was.

...But that might slow things down a bit if their initial offer is not up to snuff.  :(
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on April 10, 2008, 08:26:54 AM
i am hoping that columbia at least gets close to what Penn gave me...since it would cost sooo much extra in COL to go to Columbia...

You did inform them of your other offers, right?

Not yet, I figured I'd wait and see what their initial offer was.

...But that might slow things down a bit if their initial offer is not up to snuff.  :(

I guess so...Penn was able to improve my offer within a day or two, and I guess I'd heard that there's generally a quick turnaround for such things.  Here's hoping they were able to process my parents' forms quickly...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on April 10, 2008, 08:31:16 AM
I guess so...Penn was able to improve my offer within a day or two, and I guess I'd heard that there's generally a quick turnaround for such things.  Here's hoping they were able to process my parents' forms quickly...

I trust you'll keep us up to date?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on April 10, 2008, 08:31:47 AM
I guess so...Penn was able to improve my offer within a day or two, and I guess I'd heard that there's generally a quick turnaround for such things.  Here's hoping they were able to process my parents' forms quickly...

I trust you'll keep us up to date?

you know it!   ;D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Hammerstein on April 10, 2008, 08:36:08 AM
Is it worth appealing then?  I'd prefer not to bother anyone, but I do have a decent bit at UVA.  Not sure if that's ranked high enough for consideration, though.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: OnTheRoad on April 10, 2008, 01:26:15 PM
Looks like a few people got in today via email.

Any numbers?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: SowingSeason on April 10, 2008, 01:42:43 PM
Sigh...  :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on April 11, 2008, 07:46:19 AM
I guess so...Penn was able to improve my offer within a day or two, and I guess I'd heard that there's generally a quick turnaround for such things.  Here's hoping they were able to process my parents' forms quickly...

I trust you'll keep us up to date?

you know it!   ;D

Well if your competing offers are largely merit based, you shouldn't wait to get your CLS aid package. Talk to admissions directly, since that's recruitment money, not need-based money. Also, there's only so much money in the pot, and you want to get to the well before it starts drying out.

Yeah, I just kind of wanted to be able to say, "Hey, um, I have officially gotten $0 from you..." before I ask for more money.  I fully expect to get $0 in need-based aid.

If I don't hear by the middle of next week, then I'll be calling the financial aid office or sending an email to admissions.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 11, 2008, 07:52:16 AM
I guess so...Penn was able to improve my offer within a day or two, and I guess I'd heard that there's generally a quick turnaround for such things.  Here's hoping they were able to process my parents' forms quickly...

I trust you'll keep us up to date?

you know it!   ;D

Well if your competing offers are largely merit based, you shouldn't wait to get your CLS aid package. Talk to admissions directly, since that's recruitment money, not need-based money. Also, there's only so much money in the pot, and you want to get to the well before it starts drying out.

Yeah, I just kind of wanted to be able to say, "Hey, um, I have officially gotten $0 from you..." before I ask for more money.  I fully expect to get $0 in need-based aid.

If I don't hear by the middle of next week, then I'll be calling the financial aid office or sending an email to admissions.

you should have emailed CLS right away, despite not hearing from them.  i had that same situation last year, and i asked someone in the admissions office and they said email them asap.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on April 11, 2008, 08:28:24 AM
I just hope she gets her letter soon so she can start moving on it one way or the other.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on April 11, 2008, 10:10:45 AM

If I don't hear by the middle of next week, then I'll be calling the financial aid office or sending an email to admissions.

you should have emailed CLS right away, despite not hearing from them.  i had that same situation last year, and i asked someone in the admissions office and they said email them asap.

People only started receiving stuff in the middle of this week, though.  I'm trying not to be overly neurotic about all this.  I'll get in touch with the office on Tuesday if I don't hear before then.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 11, 2008, 10:50:07 AM

If I don't hear by the middle of next week, then I'll be calling the financial aid office or sending an email to admissions.

you should have emailed CLS right away, despite not hearing from them.  i had that same situation last year, and i asked someone in the admissions office and they said email them asap.

People only started receiving stuff in the middle of this week, though.  I'm trying not to be overly neurotic about all this.  I'll get in touch with the office on Tuesday if I don't hear before then.

i know people just started receiving them...that's what happened to me last year.  they hadn't started--so i asked one of the head admissions people what to do, so they said just send them an email the next day.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: doos13 on April 11, 2008, 11:08:48 AM
ITT: We don't let LoveButton hijack a thread for concerned people in limbo, waiting, desperately, for good news from Columbia, to discuss how she really wants Columbia to match her great scholarship offer from Penn.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on April 11, 2008, 11:14:48 AM
ITT: We don't let LoveButton hijack a thread for concerned people in limbo, waiting, desperately, for good news from Columbia, to discuss how she really wants Columbia to match her great scholarship offer from Penn.

Oops.  :(
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: curiouscurious on April 11, 2008, 12:29:00 PM
In!!

Deferred a few months ago. Both auto admit numbers..

PS: People who are deferred-> accepted, do you get merit scholarships? Would it be in the snail mail or email?

 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 11, 2008, 12:40:58 PM
In!!

Deferred a few months ago. Both auto admit numbers..

PS: People who are deferred-> accepted, do you get merit scholarships? Would it be in the snail mail or email?

 

congrats! i m so jealous...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on April 11, 2008, 12:41:43 PM
In!!

Deferred a few months ago. Both auto admit numbers..

PS: People who are deferred-> accepted, do you get merit scholarships? Would it be in the snail mail or email?

 

Yay! How'd you find out? E-mail?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on April 11, 2008, 01:33:39 PM
In!!

Deferred a few months ago. Both auto admit numbers..

PS: People who are deferred-> accepted, do you get merit scholarships? Would it be in the snail mail or email?

Congratulations and unfortunately I don't know.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 11, 2008, 07:38:38 PM

Same here! Congrats!! My stomach has been in knots for a few days now..
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we should give each other a hug. :-*
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: rabbit9198 on April 11, 2008, 08:26:57 PM
In!!

Deferred a few months ago. Both auto admit numbers..

PS: People who are deferred-> accepted, do you get merit scholarships? Would it be in the snail mail or email?

 

Congrats! :)

No, no scholarship offer, sadly...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: curiouscurious on April 13, 2008, 08:24:38 PM
If you do get merit scholarships, is it listed in your acceptance letter, or is it on a separate page?  My email acceptance did not indicate any awards, but I have not received the snail mail yet...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: doos13 on April 13, 2008, 10:39:50 PM
Hey guys, watch for a lot of movement in your mailboxes today...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: devilishlyblue on April 14, 2008, 06:17:34 AM
If you do get merit scholarships, is it listed in your acceptance letter, or is it on a separate page?  My email acceptance did not indicate any awards, but I have not received the snail mail yet...

At the very least, it comes in your acceptance package.  I never got any e-mail notification of a Columbia admission, so not sure what the e-mail would or wouldn't include.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BurtsBees on April 14, 2008, 09:26:25 AM
Hey guys, watch for a lot of movement in your mailboxes today...

The last guy who posted something like this, was dead on about Chicago -- but it also was a rejection.  I'm wondering what your source is, and if acceptances are only coming out via e-mail at this point.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: doos13 on April 14, 2008, 10:04:20 AM
Okay guys, sorry about that. No mail from them. Should come tomorrow.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on April 14, 2008, 10:06:08 AM
Okay guys, sorry about that. No mail from them. Should come tomorrow.

Thanks for the heads up, but what is this based on?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: NYU2011 on April 14, 2008, 10:08:12 AM
Well for those of us put in the "hold" category they said that we would hear back by April 15th at the latest, which is tomorrow.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: patty1 on April 14, 2008, 10:22:20 AM
I was deferred as well, but I need to put a seat deposit down for another school today. Should I call Columbia and ask if a decision is being emailed today? ???
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: stupid33 on April 14, 2008, 10:28:37 AM
patty: what school is that? seems like most schools ask for deposits at the end, beginning or the 15th of the month.
cls did say they were going to give out responses to all those held by april 15th. assuming they keep their word, is it too late for you to hear tomorrow? alternatively, you could ask the school requiring the seat deposit for an extension (by 1 day).
i would just be a little wary contacting admissions offices about this, since they already firmly said by april 15. just my 2cents.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: patty1 on April 14, 2008, 10:34:20 AM
patty: what school is that? seems like most schools ask for deposits at the end, beginning or the 15th of the month.
cls did say they were going to give out responses to all those held by april 15th. assuming they keep their word, is it too late for you to hear tomorrow? alternatively, you could ask the school requiring the seat deposit for an extension (by 1 day).
i would just be a little wary contacting admissions offices about this, since they already firmly said by april 15. just my 2cents.
on

It is Cardozo full tuition, so I really do not want to ask them to wait for one more day since the money is guaranteed  :)Do not want to seem ungrateful. I am not sure if the seat deposit is binding and suspect that it is with this type of $$$

Re Columbia: I am wary too...

Suggestions?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 14, 2008, 10:50:19 AM
I was deferred as well, but I need to put a seat deposit down for another school today. Should I call Columbia and ask if a decision is being emailed today? ???

call and explain your situation
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BurtsBees on April 14, 2008, 12:32:40 PM
I don't think Cardoza will care.  Ask for a two day extension and you will likely be fine.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 14, 2008, 02:28:16 PM
Okay guys, sorry about that. No mail from them. Should come tomorrow.
if it's snail mail, should we assume bad news?
since it seems the acceptances were sent via email.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 14, 2008, 02:32:50 PM
I was deferred as well, but I need to put a seat deposit down for another school today. Should I call Columbia and ask if a decision is being emailed today? ???

call and explain your situation

i did.
i was told to send an email explaining this and they will email the decision rather than mail it to me.
it seems i should be expecting bad news.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 14, 2008, 03:14:24 PM
I'm worried too jdxf. Have any decisions been received today? There were only a handful of def, accepted on LSN. Could that be all?

well,  according to the admissons office, they will send out lots of decisions tomorrow via snail mail.
doesn't look too good to me....
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: rabbit9198 on April 14, 2008, 08:39:16 PM
Withdrew tonight via their online system, after getting a fin aid award by mail sometime over the weekend.

Best of luck to those of you still waiting! :)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on April 14, 2008, 08:40:32 PM
Withdrew tonight via their online system, after getting a fin aid award by mail sometime over the weekend.

Best of luck to those of you still waiting! :)

Sorry you won't be joining us rabbit.  Best of luck wherever you choose to go.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: rabbit9198 on April 14, 2008, 09:15:43 PM
Withdrew tonight via their online system, after getting a fin aid award by mail sometime over the weekend.

Best of luck to those of you still waiting! :)

Sorry you won't be joining us rabbit.  Best of luck wherever you choose to go.

Thank you - that's very kind of you. I'm sure ya'll will have a *fantastic* time at CLS, it's just not the best fit for me.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Freelover on April 15, 2008, 12:37:14 AM
Does Columbia notify those who are deferred/WLed/rejected through email or snail mail?
I have heard absolutely nothing from Columbia, and my application completed on January 8th!
Starting to worry that my snail mail was lost......
The same to my application to Sanford........
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 15, 2008, 06:46:28 AM
Does Columbia notify those who are deferred/WLed/rejected through email or snail mail?
I have heard absolutely nothing from Columbia, and my application completed on January 8th!
Starting to worry that my snail mail was lost......
The same to my application to Sanford........

the first notice from CLS was by snail mail. u may want to call them up.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: doos13 on April 15, 2008, 09:26:10 AM
Nothing in the mail. :(
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 15, 2008, 09:36:26 AM
waitlisted.
i dont know if i should stay on the list.
Michigan's summer start program will begin 5/25... ??? ???
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RenerzSan on April 15, 2008, 09:53:54 AM
sorry to hear that jdxf. could you share whether you heard thru snail mail or email? (did you contact cls telling them that you had a pressing deadline?)
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BurtsBees on April 15, 2008, 10:01:26 AM
waitlisted.
i dont know if i should stay on the list.
Michigan's summer start program will begin 5/25... ??? ???

What part of the US are you located?  Close to NY? Did they snail mail?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: patty1 on April 15, 2008, 10:19:06 AM
Still waiting for Columbia. Decided not to call them yesterday, and placed my seat deposit down at Cardozo...very happy! (and it is not binding) I got waitlisted at NYU yesterday and think that it will be the same or a rejection at Columbia. Thats OK, I am a lonnggggg shot and was happy to be deferred.

Good luck to everyone.
 :D
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 15, 2008, 10:41:01 AM
sorry to hear that jdxf. could you share whether you heard thru snail mail or email? (did you contact cls telling them that you had a pressing deadline?)

it's supposed to by sent via snail mail. but i asked about my status so they scaned the letter and emailed it to me.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: RenerzSan on April 15, 2008, 10:48:42 AM
did you give them a reason for wanting to know your status?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Ben Matlock on April 15, 2008, 11:57:01 AM
Withdrew today! Good luck everyone. Columbia is a great school.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 15, 2008, 12:24:47 PM
did you give them a reason for wanting to know your status?

yes. i told them i need to send the seat deposit to a school soon, which is true.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Ben Matlock on April 15, 2008, 02:46:40 PM
Withdrew today! Good luck everyone. Columbia is a great school.

Congrats on the big Y! Is that where you're planning on going?

Thanks dude. It looks rather likely at this point...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: snap82 on April 15, 2008, 09:03:18 PM
Withdrew.  Good luck to those still waiting and those on the waitlist!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: techpers0n on April 16, 2008, 01:32:00 PM
Waitlisted. I sent them an e-mail asking for the decision, if avaliable, and I got a response with a scanned copy of the letter. I don't think I will stay on the waitlist. This ends my cycle, and its time to choose between Boalt, NYU and Chicago.

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: sept2007lsat on April 16, 2008, 09:23:23 PM
Waitlisted. I sent them an e-mail asking for the decision, if avaliable, and I got a response with a scanned copy of the letter. I don't think I will stay on the waitlist. This ends my cycle, and its time to choose between Boalt, NYU and Chicago.


How long after  request did they respond. I emailed at 11 and no response? I guess we will see. Never held, so I have no clue. Hopefully my 175+ will do better than yours, ha. I got 25k at NYU too, congrats, which makes the likely W/l sting less, though not very much.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: techpers0n on April 17, 2008, 08:00:22 AM
Waitlisted. I sent them an e-mail asking for the decision, if avaliable, and I got a response with a scanned copy of the letter. I don't think I will stay on the waitlist. This ends my cycle, and its time to choose between Boalt, NYU and Chicago.


How long after  request did they respond. I emailed at 11 and no response? I guess we will see. Never held, so I have no clue. Hopefully my 175+ will do better than yours, ha. I got 25k at NYU too, congrats, which makes the likely W/l sting less, though not very much.

I emailed them at 11 pacific/2 eastern, and I had a response in an hour.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: BurtsBees on April 17, 2008, 09:18:16 AM
Waitlist snail mail this morning.

Not surprised, wanted to get in, but I am not sure I would have selected them over NYU or NU.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: abbygal0330 on April 17, 2008, 09:36:45 AM
Waitlist snail mail this morning.

Not surprised, wanted to get in, but I am not sure I would have selected them over NYU or NU.

So sorry about that Moisy! It seems like a lot of waitlists have gone out the last couple days-- not too many rejections though, which I suppose is a good thing.

Do you think you'll withdraw?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: jdxf on April 17, 2008, 11:05:03 AM
Waitlist snail mail this morning.

Not surprised, wanted to get in, but I am not sure I would have selected them over NYU or NU.

sorry to hear that
good luck!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on April 17, 2008, 11:42:03 AM
Still nothing.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: ihatechoosingusernames on April 17, 2008, 02:03:58 PM
i just got a waitlist e-mail
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: .......2 on April 18, 2008, 11:30:12 AM
I just got a Reserve e-mail that said a final decision will be made by the end of may. I'm confused. Is this a deferal or waitlist?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: doos13 on April 19, 2008, 11:10:56 AM
I'm also confused about the waitlist/reserve distinction. Those who were waitlisted: did it mention that Columbia will next contact you at the end of May?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 19, 2008, 12:40:06 PM
I don't know if there is different language used to specify when some applicants will hear, but my reserve letter said that I will hear back by the end of May as well.

To my knowledge, CLS does not wait list. I think it's not called a "wait list" because we are not ranked numerically. They say that all applications are reviewed in their entirety.

Does anyone know the likelihood of getting in over the summer? This seems like an awkward year with people applying to a lot of schools. Hopefully they new lsac policy about multiple deposits will work to the waitlisted applicant's favor!

Getting in off the waitlist depends on what the school (any schoo for that matter) needs. If they need high gpas, they will go for those ppl.  If they need more diversity (age, ethnicity, georgraphic), they will go for those applicants.

Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: neverborn on April 21, 2008, 04:50:06 PM
reserve/wl.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 30, 2008, 08:42:22 AM
I still really love everything about CLS but I have been wondering about the differences in hiring prospects between the nyc law schools and slight lower ranked t14s (esp. considering the recent troubles that 1Ls have been facing in finding summer jobs.) Are the connections from an NYU/CLS considerable enough to turn down a slightly lower ranked t14 (Penn, Michigan, Chicago, etc.)?

I don't think so if the "lower" school gives you good $.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: CLS2009Student on May 01, 2008, 08:13:27 AM
I still really love everything about CLS but I have been wondering about the differences in hiring prospects between the nyc law schools and slight lower ranked t14s (esp. considering the recent troubles that 1Ls have been facing in finding summer jobs.) Are the connections from an NYU/CLS considerable enough to turn down a slightly lower ranked t14 (Penn, Michigan, Chicago, etc.)?

Well, I think you are much, much, much more likely to get a great 1L summer job at CLS/NYU compared to the other schools you list.  As for 2L summer jobs and jobs after graduation, the vast majority at what you call the "slightly lower ranked t14s" should still be able to get a very good job without too much effort.  That said, I really do believe it is much easier at CLS (and also NYU).
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: t L on May 01, 2008, 08:41:55 AM
I really need to write and send my LOCI.

My chances are getting off the reserve are so slim that I wonder if it's even worth the effort of writing it.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Natural Law(yer) on May 01, 2008, 02:23:16 PM
Well, I think you are much, much, much more likely to get a great 1L summer job at CLS/NYU compared to the other schools you list.  As for 2L summer jobs and jobs after graduation, the vast majority at what you call the "slightly lower ranked t14s" should still be able to get a very good job without too much effort.  That said, I really do believe it is much easier at CLS (and also NYU).

Hm.  Would this make a big enough difference to justify paying full-tuition at Columbia rather than taking a scholarship from a slightly lower-ranked school?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on May 01, 2008, 02:29:24 PM
Well, I think you are much, much, much more likely to get a great 1L summer job at CLS/NYU compared to the other schools you list.  As for 2L summer jobs and jobs after graduation, the vast majority at what you call the "slightly lower ranked t14s" should still be able to get a very good job without too much effort.  That said, I really do believe it is much easier at CLS (and also NYU).

Hm.  Would this make a big enough difference to justify paying full-tuition at Columbia rather than taking a scholarship from a slightly lower-ranked school?

depends on the size of the scholarship and the ranking of the school.

titcr.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Natural Law(yer) on May 01, 2008, 02:39:29 PM
Well, I think you are much, much, much more likely to get a great 1L summer job at CLS/NYU compared to the other schools you list.  As for 2L summer jobs and jobs after graduation, the vast majority at what you call the "slightly lower ranked t14s" should still be able to get a very good job without too much effort.  That said, I really do believe it is much easier at CLS (and also NYU).

Hm.  Would this make a big enough difference to justify paying full-tuition at Columbia rather than taking a scholarship from a slightly lower-ranked school?

depends on the size of the scholarship and the ranking of the school.

If the scholarship was more than you would make at the 1L summer job, and the school was still in the top 10?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on May 01, 2008, 03:12:13 PM
Well, I think you are much, much, much more likely to get a great 1L summer job at CLS/NYU compared to the other schools you list.  As for 2L summer jobs and jobs after graduation, the vast majority at what you call the "slightly lower ranked t14s" should still be able to get a very good job without too much effort.  That said, I really do believe it is much easier at CLS (and also NYU).

Hm.  Would this make a big enough difference to justify paying full-tuition at Columbia rather than taking a scholarship from a slightly lower-ranked school?

depends on the size of the scholarship and the ranking of the school.

If the scholarship was more than you would make at the 1L summer job, and the school was still in the top 10?

so $40k at PVM?

it would probably take more than that, honestly.  where you go affects where you end up working firmwise (which makes no difference in terms of base salary but matters in terms of bonuses, exit options), and the advantages cls has in hiring over some of the other top 10 schools would probably amount to more than $40k. 

This is something that concerns me as well. I basically have a year of law school free and am trying to decide whether I should even pursue NYU and CLS anymore. I am also unsure of where I have the best chance of getting off the WL. Does anyone know who takes more people off the waitlist? FWIW, it looks like CLS reserves everyone and there are substantially fewer waitlists at NYU.

NYU takes more waitlists I think.

Getting off of the waitlist depends on what the school needs.  Do they need more older people?  Do they need more geographic diversity?  Do they need high gpas (this one is huge)?  Do they need more URMs?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Natural Law(yer) on May 01, 2008, 04:14:35 PM
so $40k at PVM?

it would probably take more than that, honestly.  where you go affects where you end up working firmwise (which makes no difference in terms of base salary but matters in terms of bonuses, exit options), and the advantages cls has in hiring over some of the other top 10 schools would probably amount to more than $40k.

Yeah, I guess that's true.  Oh well, it probably doesn't matter anyway...the reason I was waitlisted in the first place was probably because of my GPA, and I'm guessing GPA will be the major criteria for deciding who gets off the waitlist.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on June 03, 2008, 02:48:47 PM
Any reserved candidates get updates yet?

I was about to ask the same thing.

ETA: Looks like some fortunate soul on LSN got off the waitlist today.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: VirusNY on June 04, 2008, 07:41:00 AM
I was offered a spot to remain on reserve. Not so sure what I'll do... :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: hollowman988 on June 04, 2008, 08:07:29 AM
I still really love everything about CLS but I have been wondering about the differences in hiring prospects between the nyc law schools and slight lower ranked t14s (esp. considering the recent troubles that 1Ls have been facing in finding summer jobs.) Are the connections from an NYU/CLS considerable enough to turn down a slightly lower ranked t14 (Penn, Michigan, Chicago, etc.)?

Well, I think you are much, much, much more likely to get a great 1L summer job at CLS/NYU compared to the other schools you list.  As for 2L summer jobs and jobs after graduation, the vast majority at what you call the "slightly lower ranked t14s" should still be able to get a very good job without too much effort.  That said, I really do believe it is much easier at CLS (and also NYU).

Seriously? I just don't think that's true.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: pikey on June 04, 2008, 08:22:33 AM
I still really love everything about CLS but I have been wondering about the differences in hiring prospects between the nyc law schools and slight lower ranked t14s (esp. considering the recent troubles that 1Ls have been facing in finding summer jobs.) Are the connections from an NYU/CLS considerable enough to turn down a slightly lower ranked t14 (Penn, Michigan, Chicago, etc.)?

Well, I think you are much, much, much more likely to get a great 1L summer job at CLS/NYU compared to the other schools you list.  As for 2L summer jobs and jobs after graduation, the vast majority at what you call the "slightly lower ranked t14s" should still be able to get a very good job without too much effort.  That said, I really do believe it is much easier at CLS (and also NYU).

Seriously? I just don't think that's true.

Especially for minorities, depending on where you want to go.  Most of the black people I know who wanted 1L firm jobs got them.  However, most of them weren't interested in NYC, so if that's your focus CLS will probably give you an advantage.  I don't know how much of an advantage, though...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on June 04, 2008, 08:51:38 AM
I was offered a spot to remain on reserve. Not so sure what I'll do... :-\

umm,

REMAIN ON RESERVE!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: aporia on June 04, 2008, 10:28:43 AM
I was offered a spot to remain on reserve. Not so sure what I'll do... :-\

umm,

REMAIN ON RESERVE!

Uh, yeah.  Seconded.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: bride2B on June 04, 2008, 11:30:17 AM
"Priority First reserve" received my rejection letter yesterday.  Not too upset as I was not a fan of Columbia when I went to visit.  It is a great school just not for me.  Good luck to everyone else!
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: hollowman988 on June 04, 2008, 12:09:14 PM
Hollowman what part do you think is not true?

The idea that 1L summer job prospects (even for 'great' jobs, whatever those are) are muchX3 better than at Michigan or Penn, let alone Chicago.  Even if they are better, and maybe they are w/r/t Michigan and/or Penn, the hyperbole was certainly not warranted.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on June 04, 2008, 04:36:05 PM
I called today to see if they received my LOCI (they wouldn't tell me, I have to e-mail), and to ask about the waitlist progress. The guy on the phone told me that they are nearly finished and that all decisions should be made by the end of the week.    :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: hollowman988 on June 04, 2008, 08:39:16 PM
Hollowman what part do you think is not true?

The idea that 1L summer job prospects (even for 'great' jobs, whatever those are) are muchX3 better than at Michigan or Penn, let alone Chicago.  Even if they are better, and maybe they are w/r/t Michigan and/or Penn, the hyperbole was certainly not warranted.

so you think three much's was too much basically?

i think one much was too much, but yeah.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on June 13, 2008, 02:37:59 PM
*sigh*

Did anyone else get the Second Reserve group letter?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on June 14, 2008, 01:30:20 PM
Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on June 15, 2008, 07:46:49 PM
Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.

Same. I am all set to go to Fordham. I have everything in place. BUT I have wanted to go to CLS since high school. Ugh, and the deadline to stay on is tomorrow.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on June 15, 2008, 08:05:22 PM
Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.

eh, stay on I supposed, but personally, I wouldn't take CLS w/no money over Mich w/$$ at this point...bc I doubt CLS will give you something at this stage.

Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.

Same. I am all set to go to Fordham. I have everything in place. BUT I have wanted to go to CLS since high school. Ugh, and the deadline to stay on is tomorrow.

Stay on...definitely.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: devilishlyblue on June 15, 2008, 10:21:03 PM
Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.

Same. I am all set to go to Fordham. I have everything in place. BUT I have wanted to go to CLS since high school. Ugh, and the deadline to stay on is tomorrow.

Adding to the reason to stay on is that Fordham is in NYC anyway.  You wouldn't even necessarily have to move apartments; they're even both on the 1 line.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on June 16, 2008, 08:46:19 PM
Yeah, I don't know who I was kidding. Of course I was going to stay on the list. I am loving FUSL, but CLS has always been the dream.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: abacab44 on June 16, 2008, 11:31:16 PM
Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.

Same. I am all set to go to Fordham. I have everything in place. BUT I have wanted to go to CLS since high school. Ugh, and the deadline to stay on is tomorrow.

I'm in the same boat, except im hoping for NYU even more than i am Columbia. Maybe i'll see you at Fordham in the fall
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on June 18, 2008, 02:37:03 PM
Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.

Same. I am all set to go to Fordham. I have everything in place. BUT I have wanted to go to CLS since high school. Ugh, and the deadline to stay on is tomorrow.

I'm in the same boat, except im hoping for NYU even more than i am Columbia. Maybe i'll see you at Fordham in the fall

Ooh, I hope you get NYU! They rejected me off the waitlist pretty quickly. I didn't send them an LOCI or anything else though. Otherwise, yeah, maybe I will see you at Fordham!!


A question back to the room now: I sent an LOCI to CLS after the First Reserve letter and there is not much else I can put into another one. What should I try for this Second Reserve round?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on June 18, 2008, 03:40:07 PM
Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.

Same. I am all set to go to Fordham. I have everything in place. BUT I have wanted to go to CLS since high school. Ugh, and the deadline to stay on is tomorrow.

I'm in the same boat, except im hoping for NYU even more than i am Columbia. Maybe i'll see you at Fordham in the fall

Ooh, I hope you get NYU! They rejected me off the waitlist pretty quickly. I didn't send them an LOCI or anything else though. Otherwise, yeah, maybe I will see you at Fordham!!


A question back to the room now: I sent an LOCI to CLS after the First Reserve letter and there is not much else I can put into another one. What should I try for this Second Reserve round?
If you haven't said it before, tell them that you will 100% come if admitted (but only if this is true and you don't care about getting a grant).
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on June 18, 2008, 05:31:07 PM
Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.

Same. I am all set to go to Fordham. I have everything in place. BUT I have wanted to go to CLS since high school. Ugh, and the deadline to stay on is tomorrow.

I'm in the same boat, except im hoping for NYU even more than i am Columbia. Maybe i'll see you at Fordham in the fall

Ooh, I hope you get NYU! They rejected me off the waitlist pretty quickly. I didn't send them an LOCI or anything else though. Otherwise, yeah, maybe I will see you at Fordham!!


A question back to the room now: I sent an LOCI to CLS after the First Reserve letter and there is not much else I can put into another one. What should I try for this Second Reserve round?
If you haven't said it before, tell them that you will 100% come if admitted (but only if this is true and you don't care about getting a grant).

Yeah, I said that, listed some awards I have received at work since I applied, why I want to attend CLS, and what I'd bring to the class of 2011.

How did I kill my chance of getting a grant (cart before horse, I know, but I'm curious)?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Ender Wiggin on June 18, 2008, 06:54:48 PM
Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.

Why do I think you really don't want to come to Michigan? 
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on June 18, 2008, 07:12:37 PM
Yeah, got my second reserve letter today.  Dated the 11th.  Trying to decide if I want to stay on.

Why do I think you really don't want to come to Michigan? 

I wouldn't say that.  I think that I would hav a better time at Michigan than at any school, bar none.  However, quality of life is my very last criteria for choosing a law school, following "quality" (don't ask me to define that) of the degree and cost.

I would absolutely love to come to Michigan, but that doesn't mean that I would take a lesser (however microscopically so) deree to be a little happier for three years.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on June 19, 2008, 09:34:43 AM

How did I kill my chance of getting a grant (cart before horse, I know, but I'm curious)?

If you tell them you will definitely, 100% come, then they have no motivation to give you a grant.  You're definitely coming.  Why would they spend money trying to woo you?

I think that's the logic, at least.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on June 19, 2008, 01:27:27 PM

How did I kill my chance of getting a grant (cart before horse, I know, but I'm curious)?

If you tell them you will definitely, 100% come, then they have no motivation to give you a grant.  You're definitely coming.  Why would they spend money trying to woo you?

I think that's the logic, at least.

Hmm, I don't know...why would they try to woo me at all if I'm on the waitlist? I never thought they'd give money to someone off the waitlist (though that would be pretty sweet!).
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on June 19, 2008, 02:35:28 PM

How did I kill my chance of getting a grant (cart before horse, I know, but I'm curious)?

If you tell them you will definitely, 100% come, then they have no motivation to give you a grant.  You're definitely coming.  Why would they spend money trying to woo you?

I think that's the logic, at least.

Hmm, I don't know...why would they try to woo me at all if I'm on the waitlist? I never thought they'd give money to someone off the waitlist (though that would be pretty sweet!).

Penn offered me off the waitlist, though I think that would only happen early on.  The reasoning, as I understood it, was that people had tied up the scholarship money and then declined, and those better than me, in Penn's eyes, had either deposited or declined, so they get no money.  Once th money from those who originally got it was free again, they offered it to the best waitlisters.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on June 19, 2008, 05:37:05 PM

How did I kill my chance of getting a grant (cart before horse, I know, but I'm curious)?

If you tell them you will definitely, 100% come, then they have no motivation to give you a grant.  You're definitely coming.  Why would they spend money trying to woo you?

I think that's the logic, at least.


Hmm, I don't know...why would they try to woo me at all if I'm on the waitlist? I never thought they'd give money to someone off the waitlist (though that would be pretty sweet!).

Penn offered me off the waitlist, though I think that would only happen early on.  The reasoning, as I understood it, was that people had tied up the scholarship money and then declined, and those better than me, in Penn's eyes, had either deposited or declined, so they get no money.  Once th money from those who originally got it was free again, they offered it to the best waitlisters.

First off, that is really awesome for you. Congrats! Second, sadly, even if the Law School Gods did smile upon me and I somehow got off the CLS waitlist, I am - in no way - one of their best waitlisters. It's by the skin of my teeth I'm still on their list! Oh well. I'll just dream about getting off the waitlist.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on July 02, 2008, 04:25:47 PM
Did anybody else get an email from Columbia today?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on July 02, 2008, 04:31:15 PM
Did anybody else get an email from Columbia today?

Awww, *cries*.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on July 02, 2008, 04:34:46 PM
It's not an acceptance or anything, it's more vague than anything else.  I was just wondering how widespread it was.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: just ducky on July 02, 2008, 04:51:26 PM
Did anybody else get an email from Columbia today?

I got one.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on July 04, 2008, 01:10:27 PM
Did anybody else get an email from Columbia today?

I got one.

Are you considering going?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: abacab44 on July 05, 2008, 09:20:26 AM
Placed on the third reserve via snail mail.  :-\
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Slumdog Lovebutton on July 05, 2008, 09:27:12 AM
Did anybody else get an email from Columbia today?

I got one.

Are you considering going?

what did it say?  this is so intriguing...
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on July 05, 2008, 09:49:47 AM
Placed on the third reserve via snail mail.  :-\

WTF? Already? I feel like I just got the Second Reserve letter.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on July 05, 2008, 09:50:23 AM
Did anybody else get an email from Columbia today?

I got one.

Are you considering going?

what did it say?  this is so intriguing...

I was wondering the same thing.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on July 05, 2008, 08:39:40 PM
Did anybody else get an email from Columbia today?

I got one.

Are you considering going?

what did it say?  this is so intriguing...

Messaged.


Did anybody else get an email from Columbia today?

I got one.

Are you considering going?

what did it say?  this is so intriguing...

I was wondering the same thing.

Messaged.

Placed on the third reserve via snail mail.  :-\

WTF? Already? I feel like I just got the Second Reserve letter.

As do I, but that makes the email I got make a little more sense.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: SowingSeason on July 08, 2008, 01:10:00 PM
For those of you accepted, when is the first day of class?
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: SowingSeason on July 08, 2008, 01:16:37 PM
For those of you accepted, when is the first day of classes?..
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: Matthew on July 25, 2008, 06:28:40 AM
So noone has heard anything?  This is beginning to get a little close to the start of school.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: aporia on July 25, 2008, 06:49:04 AM
For those of you accepted, when is the first day of classes?..

Orientation begins on August 11
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: oscarlaw on July 25, 2008, 07:13:41 AM
So noone has heard anything?  This is beginning to get a little close to the start of school.

Yeah, it is. After not getting that e-mail that last round I (heartbreakingly) decided to give up. I'm moving to school on Sunday so I couldn't have waited on third reserve anyway.
Title: Re: CLS Regular Decision Support Thread
Post by: SowingSeason on July 25, 2008, 12:17:45 PM
nothing here.. no 3rd reserve letter or rejection letter... i'm going to wait till Aug 8.. then i have to  let the dream die...