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Applying to Law School => Law School Admissions => Topic started by: M2 on September 24, 2004, 01:51:39 PM

Title: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: M2 on September 24, 2004, 01:51:39 PM
Some apps asks Approximate number of hours per week worked for the following years:
Freshman
Sophmore
Junior
Senior

Well during freshman year I worked from November to July. So how do I answer this question?
Tell how many when I was working? get the total and average for the whole school year? (seems silly).


How are you guys answering this?
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: shanrocks on September 24, 2004, 01:54:32 PM
Honestly, I just guessed.  I've been out of college ten years and have no clue how many hours I worked per week.
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: egg on September 24, 2004, 02:13:38 PM
I ran into this problem as well- I was a TA for 10 hours a week my last two spring semesters, so I just said Junior:5hrs/wk and Senior:5hrs/wk. The figures are pretty arbitrary due to recall factors and non-full year employment (like ours). I wouldn't sweat it too much... I imagine that adcoms are just trying to differentiate people who worked full-time, some-time, and no-time in order to put GPA/ECs into some context.
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: M2 on September 24, 2004, 02:15:24 PM
Yeh that makes sense.. I think im just putting 25 down for every year except for junior (where I was in paris for one semester), and for Junior I will put 10 or 15
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: absy on September 24, 2004, 05:24:43 PM
I also have problems when it asks for how long and how many hours per week I worked on my ECs.  Well, freshman and sophomore year I spend about 20 hours per week with theater, but junior year was only about 5-10.  It's really hard to quantify this without some explanation
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: Cheeks on September 25, 2004, 08:53:57 AM
I'm pretty sure everyone has a problem with this kind of thing.  I say just estimate it the best you can.  No need to stress over say +/- 5 hours.

What would you consider to be a lot of hours though (during school)?  20-30? 30-40?  more??
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: absy on September 25, 2004, 08:58:03 AM
I'd say if you add up your work and ECs, anything over 25 is a lot.  Maybe 20.
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: Ninja on September 25, 2004, 09:29:31 AM
Is this section just for jobs, or do EC's go here also?
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: Cheeks on September 25, 2004, 09:34:17 AM
I'd say if you add up your work and ECs, anything over 25 is a lot.  Maybe 20.

really?  i have around 60+ ... (EC's included)  My EC's are a lot, but I figured 30 hours of work would be around average.
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: M2 on September 25, 2004, 09:36:14 AM
Why would you add in ECs if it says employment?

"hours worked"
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: Cheeks on September 25, 2004, 09:39:12 AM
no, i wasn't adding it on my applications ... it was in response to what absy said.
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: M2 on September 25, 2004, 09:40:01 AM
thanks...just clarifying... i wanted to make sure i didn't screw up
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: Anti_Ivy on September 25, 2004, 09:43:14 AM
I'll encounter a similar dilemma next fall, when I apply:  I will graduate college in less than four years.  Technically, my 'freshman year' consisted of my having the fall semester as a freshman and the spring semester as a sophomore.  I figure I'll just consider my first semester my 'freshman year' and my second semester will be my 'sophomore year.'  If any of the law school ad coms have a problem with that, thatís their own problem.  The apps shouldn't ask such a question and not allow us to explain in detail.

Also, I'm considering my unpaid internships as 'employment.'

Some apps asks Approximate number of hours per week worked for the following years:
Freshman
Sophmore
Junior
Senior

Well during freshman year I worked from November to July. So how do I answer this question?
Tell how many when I was working? get the total and average for the whole school year? (seems silly).


How are you guys answering this?
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: M2 on September 25, 2004, 09:44:41 AM
Also, I'm considering my unpaid internships as 'employment.'[/color]



You dont think that this is unethical?
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: cascagrossa on September 25, 2004, 09:46:19 AM
does employment have to be paid?  i have a summer job with a real estate firm that i got on my own, it was not set up through a university or anything, but it is unpaid.  why would it be wrong to list it as employment?
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: Cheeks on September 25, 2004, 09:51:52 AM
i personally think that listing unpaid employment is fine (though i don't include it on my app).  Schools are concerned with what else you were doing during school.  As long as you were actually working, and not just sitting around watching tv or something, then I would consider it fine to put on an application.

Some schools specifically say "Employment (paid or unpaid)" so you're good to go on those apps.
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: cascagrossa on September 25, 2004, 09:53:51 AM
and ive never seen an application specify "paid employment" only.  im listing that work because without it i would just have a huge blank summer which would lead the adcoms to believe i sat on my ass for 3months which isnt true.
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: M2 on September 25, 2004, 09:58:40 AM
But then will you still list it under EC/volunteer?
This is the part I wasn't sure of
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: cascagrossa on September 25, 2004, 09:59:37 AM
no, i dont count that as ec or volunteer.  ec is stuff like martial arts, and clubs in college.
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: M2 on September 25, 2004, 10:01:19 AM
I didn't even think to include EC's like martial arts...can we include that??
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: Cheeks on September 25, 2004, 10:03:19 AM
I didn't even think to include EC's like martial arts...can we include that??

yes, i think sport activities are included in EC's.  But not something like ... "working out" ...that doesn't count.
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: M2 on September 25, 2004, 10:04:00 AM
But not something like ... "working out" ...that doesn't count.

ahaha ok

Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: cascagrossa on September 25, 2004, 10:04:54 AM
i train a LOT, almost all of my free time goes to training.  why wouldnt i list it?  how does it differ from someone who plays soccer?

i think there is a point where ec's can get ridiculous, like listing your yoga class that you attend once a week, but isnt hte whole point of listing ec's to show how you spend a significant amount of time doing something outside of academics?
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: Cheeks on September 25, 2004, 10:16:07 AM
i train a LOT, almost all of my free time goes to training.  why wouldnt i list it?  how does it differ from someone who plays soccer?

i think there is a point where ec's can get ridiculous, like listing your yoga class that you attend once a week, but isnt hte whole point of listing ec's to show how you spend a significant amount of time doing something outside of academics?

agreed ... i spend 30+ hours/week training.  It's definately going on the app!
Title: Re: Stupid application questions... hours/week worked
Post by: Ninja on September 26, 2004, 10:01:06 PM
I wasn't allowed to work during school due to sports, so I'll be putting 0's in for all 4 years.  I'm not a big fan of the work hours section.