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Deciding Where to Go => Choosing the Right Law School => Topic started by: Joshc909 on July 16, 2007, 06:07:11 PM

Title: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: Joshc909 on July 16, 2007, 06:07:11 PM
Hi everyone, I was just wondering if anybody had any input about my preliminary law school picks

168/3.90
BS Economics, BS Psychology
w/Honors, Phi Beta Kappa
Master's degree in City and Regional Planning
w/Highest level graduate fellowship
All from Ohio State

Stretches
Chicago
Penn

Competitive (?)
Georgetown
UVA
Duke
Vanderbilt

Safeties
Ohio State
Cincinnati

Thanks
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: Harmonium on July 16, 2007, 06:17:14 PM
I'd say you're probably in at G-town, Duke and Vandy. I've got very close numbers and if you look at lawschoolnumbers.com, not too many people get dinged in that range. You're probably out at Chicago and out or WL at Penn.
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: clairel on July 16, 2007, 06:49:31 PM
list looks fine. i was 168, 3.96 and got in at chicago, but i wouldn't count on it by any means.
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: _retired_ on July 16, 2007, 08:22:51 PM
Strong desire to return to Ohio?  You could do better on safeties, but I'm assuming the regional selections are intentional.
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: Joshc909 on July 16, 2007, 08:52:30 PM
Yes, outside of top 20 schools I would prefer to stay in Ohio.
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: Amy Winehouse on July 16, 2007, 09:02:35 PM
You should definitely apply to any of the T14 you want to attend.  Yeah, YSH are long shots and most likely a waste of money, but you have a decent shot at most of the others.  Why not?  They can't say yes if you don't apply.
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: attic4fp on July 16, 2007, 09:07:05 PM
I would apply to a few additional top schools if I were you.  Your numbers are not unrealistic for Columbia, NYU, Boalt.  Certainly, you should add UMich, especially if you are interested in staying in the Midwest.

Look at this way: you've got a small chance at Chicago/Penn, adding more schools like that ony increases that chance.

The applications are not that different from each other, and I think it's worth the extra time.  If money is an issue, then that's a different story.  Even then, however, I would strongly consider adding UMich.
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: _retired_ on July 16, 2007, 09:14:57 PM
Even then, however, I would strongly consider adding UMich.
Does UMich even accept OSU undergrads?  ;)
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: Joshc909 on July 16, 2007, 09:16:09 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, I will definitely look into applying to some more schools.  It looks like I might have to swallow my Buckeye pride and apply to Michigan too, haha.
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: dashrashi on July 16, 2007, 09:17:36 PM
Friend of mine (168/3.79 from yale) got WL'd at HLS and was in at NYU. Ended up choosing GULC, but there you have it.
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 16, 2007, 09:38:16 PM
Friend of mine (168/3.79 from yale) got WL'd at HLS and was in at NYU. Ended up choosing GULC, but there you have it.

I was wondering who there was from HYPS at GULC.  You can't really get a low GPA in those UGs unless you try, you have a HYPS degree, and as long as you pass the LSAT (167+) with those credentials you're in at a T10. 

Could you shed some light?

but the person DID get into a T10...read what dash wrote--in at NYU but chose GULC
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: rtqw on July 16, 2007, 10:28:16 PM
Friend of mine (168/3.79 from yale) got WL'd at HLS and was in at NYU. Ended up choosing GULC, but there you have it.

I was wondering who there was from HYPS at GULC.  You can't really get a low GPA in those UGs unless you try, you have a HYPS degree, and as long as you pass the LSAT (167+) with those credentials you're in at a T10. 

Could you shed some light?  Your friend get a fat scholarship?

 wtf?

(isn't the average LSAT even at Harvard only a 166?)
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: iubyont on July 16, 2007, 10:35:24 PM
Possibly in at CCN after WL and with a really good PS
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: iubyont on July 16, 2007, 10:48:23 PM
Maybe HYPS students tend to go to GULC for public policy and nonprofit; I mean, they really don't need the money that a very top law school would bring instead they could just get cushy i-banking jobs.
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: rtqw on July 16, 2007, 10:59:37 PM
wtf?

(isn't the average LSAT even at Harvard only a 166?)

if you're shooting at T14 166 isn't gonna get you many places without a very top GPA, and then you're probably not going to GULC but a Michigan or Boalt as well.

i'm trying to figure out why HYPS students end up at gulc.

Well I was just questioning your characterization of a 167+ as 'passing' (and presumably anything below as failing).

But to answer your question, I'd think that Mich, Boalt (and maybe add Penn in here too) can be fickle, even to HYPS UGs (those don't show interest, etc). But I think a lot of people go to GULC over lower/mid top 10 because they place a very high value on being in DC for law school, justified or otherwise - in addition the typical reasons anyone chooses a lower ranked school or another (money, etc). There was several Michigan admits on LSD this cycle that seriously considered GULC/GW over Mich.
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 16, 2007, 11:13:53 PM
wtf?

(isn't the average LSAT even at Harvard only a 166?)

if you're shooting at T14 166 isn't gonna get you many places without a very top GPA, and then you're probably not going to GULC but a Michigan or Boalt as well.

i'm trying to figure out why HYPS students end up at gulc.

Well I was just questioning your characterization of a 167+ as 'passing' (and presumably anything below as failing).

But to answer your question, I'd think that Mich, Boalt (and maybe add Penn in here too) can be fickle, even to HYPS UGs (those don't show interest, etc). But I think a lot of people go to GULC over lower/mid top 10 because they place a very high value on being in DC for law school, justified or otherwise - in addition the typical reasons anyone chooses a lower ranked school or another (money, etc). There was several Michigan admits on LSD this cycle that seriously considered GULC/GW over Mich.

Lily from last cycle chose GULC over CCN MVP..and so did Ciao form this cycle...but then again, they both had full rides
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 16, 2007, 11:27:22 PM
Lily from last cycle chose GULC over CCN MVP..and so did Ciao form this cycle...but then again, they both had full rides

exhibit 1) full rides.
exhibit 2) want to be in dc.
exhibit 3) absolutely uninteresting even with an HYPS degree.

where did u get 2 and 3 from?  and i remember lily's school (non hyp ivy) but don't recall ciao's school
Title: Re: 168/3.9 - Reasonable School Choices?
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 16, 2007, 11:31:15 PM
Lily from last cycle chose GULC over CCN MVP..and so did Ciao form this cycle...but then again, they both had full rides

exhibit 1) full rides.
exhibit 2) want to be in dc.
exhibit 3) absolutely uninteresting even with an HYPS degree.

you people do realize it's entirely possible to get into and graduate from Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Stanford without being extraordinarily bright or curious or interesting, right?  i'm not sure what kind of fantasy land you live in where you need to 'figure out' why they go slumming at GULC.   

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