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Deciding Where to Go => Choosing the Right Law School => Topic started by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 12:31:16 PM

Title: The plot thickens... (UT TROLLS CLICK HERE)
Post by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 12:31:16 PM
Hey this is Mrs. Botbot

Today UTexas threw me a curve ball by offering a scholarship.  Total cost of UT is now less than $36,000.  Total cost of Tulane is about $50,000...

I am still 99% at Tulane next year, but I really wish I didn't open that stupid envelope.

UT trolls, convince me of its greatness!
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: leostrauss on May 04, 2007, 12:35:11 PM
Do I understand correctly: UT costs 24k less total than Tulane (in your situation), and yet you still want to go to Tulane? You must have some really specific reasons. Please share. I don't understand this at all. Thanks
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 12:36:31 PM
Do I understand correctly: UT costs 24k less total than Tulane (in your situation), and yet you still want to go to Tulane? You must have some really specific reasons. Please share. I don't understand this at all. Thanks

Don't like Austin or UT, love NOLA and fiance (he says go to UT).
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: ě on May 04, 2007, 12:39:17 PM
Last time I checked $50k - $36k = $14k, not $24k.

Not that you've been sitting around waiting for my advice, but if you feel the way you do, go to Tulane. You know just as well as anyone else here that UT is a somewhat better school, but Tulane isn't bad. Follow your instinct.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: leostrauss on May 04, 2007, 12:45:24 PM
Last time I checked $50k - $36k = $14k, not $24k.

Not that you've been sitting around waiting for my advice, but if you feel the way you do, go to Tulane. You know just as well as anyone else here that UT is a somewhat better school, but Tulane isn't bad. Follow your instinct.

Ha - I'm an idiot.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 12:45:36 PM
Last time I checked $50k - $36k = $14k, not $24k.

Not that you've been sitting around waiting for my advice, but if you feel the way you do, go to Tulane. You know just as well as anyone else here that UT is a somewhat better school, but Tulane isn't bad. Follow your instinct.

Thanks KeNo, I am just kind of hoping to get a UT troll to preach on its greatness.  ;)
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: leostrauss on May 04, 2007, 12:47:17 PM
Last time I checked $50k - $36k = $14k, not $24k.

Not that you've been sitting around waiting for my advice, but if you feel the way you do, go to Tulane. You know just as well as anyone else here that UT is a somewhat better school, but Tulane isn't bad. Follow your instinct.

Thanks KeNo, I am just kind of hoping to get a UT troll to preach on its greatness.  ;)

I am a great UT Troll, but now that you know I can't count, I fear you will look askance.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: ě on May 04, 2007, 12:47:28 PM
I suck at being a troll for schools I've never been at :p

And that's just an honest mistake leo, could happen to anyone :p
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 12:51:57 PM
Last time I checked $50k - $36k = $14k, not $24k.

Not that you've been sitting around waiting for my advice, but if you feel the way you do, go to Tulane. You know just as well as anyone else here that UT is a somewhat better school, but Tulane isn't bad. Follow your instinct.

Thanks KeNo, I am just kind of hoping to get a UT troll to preach on its greatness.  ;)

I am a great UT Troll, but now that you know I can't count, I fear you will look askance.

Please troll it up!
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: leostrauss on May 04, 2007, 12:56:59 PM
To begin, the faculty at UT is clearly superior. The curriculum is broader. There are far more offerings in terms of clinics and the like. There are more clerkship opportunities by far. Top 20. Less money. Higher avg salary coming out etc.

To address NOLA v Austin: Louisiana law school education could potentially (though it will not necessarily) limit your ability to excel as a lawyer. Of all states, Louisiana is the most obscure in its legal system and thus in its system of legal education (Napolean . . . come on!). UT, on the other hand, opens every door. I work accross the hall from a person who went to UT Law and clerked for a SCOTUS justice. Know any similar from Tulane? Good school, it may be, but it is clearly going to limit you in comparison to the JD from UT.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: Journeyman on May 04, 2007, 01:06:09 PM
Top 20....cheaper....better city (IMO)....

I'm not a troll, but UT-Austin I think is the clear choice.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: CoxlessPair on May 04, 2007, 01:09:47 PM
I agree with all of the above posters. UT hands down. You can even spend some time with LeiTTTer.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: jdesq2007 on May 04, 2007, 01:13:40 PM
UT all the way. It's a Top 20 that, most likely, will give you far more career flexibility at a substantially lower cost.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 01:27:11 PM
UT all the way. It's a Top 20 that, most likely, will give you far more career flexibility at a substantially lower cost.

Good stuff so far, but lets not go overboard...

It is not "substantially lower cost" and "far more" is a little silly...unless you can prove it to me, because I have not seen this data...
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: leostrauss on May 04, 2007, 01:33:16 PM
Wait a sec, I have little motivation to prove a better school is better to anyone. Do what you wish. Good luck!

Do what you must if that's what you wish. I can't be a party to this. If you had the sense that you were born with, then you'd find a way to make things right. - Christopher Ender C.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: ProfessorPlum on May 04, 2007, 01:37:23 PM
Please go to Texas.  It is an incredible school and you will have great career prospects.

Or at LEAST leverage the scholarship for a full ride (or close to it) at Tulane, if you're positive you want to work in that region of the country.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 01:39:02 PM
Wait a sec, I have little motivation to prove a better school is better to anyone. Do what you wish. Good luck!

Do what you must if that's what you wish. I can't be a party to this. If you had the sense that you were born with, then you'd find a way to make things right. - Christopher Ender C.

 :D
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 01:51:17 PM
Please go to Texas.  It is an incredible school and you will have great career prospects.

Or at LEAST leverage the scholarship for a full ride (or close to it) at Tulane, if you're positive you want to work in that region of the country.

Lets not get started on Tulane's reach, but they have been a little tight on scholarship money for me...
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: pastor of muppets on May 04, 2007, 02:06:55 PM
Who doesn't like Austin?   ???
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: pastor of muppets on May 04, 2007, 02:08:58 PM
Who doesn't like Austin?   ???

<----

What the hell is wrong with you?   ;D
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: Journeyman on May 04, 2007, 02:13:42 PM
Go to UT! Their law library is 1000 times better than Tulane's. I work at the UT Law library and visited Tulane's when I was there. If you're going to spend your entire first year studying, you'd much rather do it at UT. Trust me on this one.

As another bonus, there is always free food and free stuff in UT Law's atrium. The bus system is fantastic. Apartments are cheaper in Austin. Parking is sooooo easy compared to NOLA (at least for me it was, NOLA gave me hell). Low crime rate( unconfirmed, I've just never had any problems or heard of anyone who has). Cmon! UT is the best!

It's got to be lower than NOLA's these days! 

I think from a QOL aspect, Austin beats reconstructing NOLA
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: ProfessorPlum on May 04, 2007, 02:43:38 PM
Lets not get started on Tulane's reach, but they have been a little tight on scholarship money for me...

Please, let's get started on Tulane's reach.  I would be interested to hear what your impressions are.  What are your career goals?
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: iscoredawaitlist on May 04, 2007, 02:52:18 PM
Who doesn't like Austin?   ???

Those evil people who are constantly trying to "Make Austin Normal"

Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: CoxlessPair on May 04, 2007, 03:09:18 PM
Has any mentioned the whole "hurricane and subsequent collapse of civilization" factor? Tulane loses pretty big in that respect.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: Journeyman on May 04, 2007, 03:48:58 PM
Has any mentioned the whole "hurricane and subsequent collapse of civilization" factor? Tulane loses pretty big in that respect.


I think from a QOL aspect, Austin beats reconstructing NOLA

 ;)
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 04:55:33 PM
I will leave it at...Tulane does not suffer from the same regionality that most T30-T50 schools do.  It certainly does not travel as well as UT though...(I want to work in Texas anyways)

Look at the crime rate compared to other major cities, also look where the crime is, don't believe the media hype.

I hate longhorn undergrads and their domination of Austin. I think the area surrounding Austin is beautiful though, but I would not be living out there.  There is no way you will convince me that the Austin bar/music scene is any greater than the NOLA scene.

Stop making me defend Tulane, make me like UTexas! 

QOL for me will be much better in NOLA - Anyone absolutely love UT?  Anyone love the atmosphere/fellow students?  Give me the stories of these SCOTUS clerks?

I know I suck at this thread...
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: ProfessorPlum on May 04, 2007, 06:07:48 PM
Stop making me defend Tulane, make me like UTexas! 

We're just trying to convince you to take a better deal to a better school!  Of course, if you know that UT is not for you and Tulane is, no one besides you can decide that.

I don't know what your career goals are, but Texas will give you an opportunity to work at firms that you would have to be first in your class at Tulane to have a chance at.  Do an attorney search at any of the top firms in the world, and you will find that most have at least several Texas grads, and if any have Tulane grads, it's usually one or two.  Texas will also be better if you want to obtain a clerkship or teach law.

If you want to live and work in Texas, you really can't go to a better school than UT.  And they're showing how much they want you by giving you so much money!
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: Journeyman on May 04, 2007, 06:57:25 PM
I will leave it at...Tulane does not suffer from the same regionality that most T30-T50 schools do.  It certainly does not travel as well as UT though...(I want to work in Texas anyways)

Unless that was a typo, I can't see wanting to work in Texas and then passing up the flagship school of the state for a school in Louisiana.

Plus, Austin is not a typical college town, its a state capital.  Although the university is there, so are courts, LARGE law firms, and professionals.  Great job opportunities, relatively low COL, a progressive city (for Texas), and isn't one Catagory 5 away from elimination. 

Am I missing something?  ???
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: CoxlessPair on May 04, 2007, 07:16:39 PM
This has to be flame. No one that can get into UT can be this dense.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: Tulane1L on May 04, 2007, 08:29:51 PM
I am a 1L at Tulane, procrastinating instead of studying for finals for a few minutes...

I think that you should consider what your job opportunities would be if you end up in the middle of the class.  I know, I know, you are smart, you will work harder than everyone, you have a high lsat...blah blah...But, you never know what will happen - you could have a personal crisis, grading can be somewhat arbitrary, hell, you might just not do as well as you think.

So, from personal experience talking to actual student (not career services) - the middle of the class at Tulane has pretty decent job opportunities - small to medium sized firms, government, etc.  Not bad, but then again, not amazing either.

I have no idea what opportunities the middle of the class at Texas has, but I would be willing to guess that they are pretty damn good, especially if you want to stay in Texas.

Just an idea, but contact Tulane's career services, and ask for the email of someone who did their "Katrina semester" at UT - there are a bunch of people (rising 3Ls) that did, and see what they have to say.

My $0.02 - don't go to lawschool somewhere you know you will hate - it will be a miserable experience.  That said, also go somewhere that gives you the best opportunities when you graduate.  After all, that is the whole point of this all.

I like Tulane, and I absolutly love New Orleans, but personally, if I had the choice, I would have gone to Texas.

I love Austin.

But what the hell do I know.  Do what makes you happy.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 10:22:38 PM
Thanks for the input everyone...

As a response to calling me a flame, I know all the tangible reasons UT is better than Tulane (Reminding me of them was not a bad thing, but the broad statements in this thread are a little silly). 

Part of the reason I fell in love with Tulane is the passion the students have for their school, I was trying to find someone with that love for UT.

I will graduate debt free no matter which school I go to.  I left this out to not let it sway opinions, as I will still be paying the cost, and I like money.

The middle of the class question is a very good one, I have no idea how well I will do in law school.  It is the only reason this is a debate for me.  I am sure it is hard to understand why I would not jump all over UT when I want to work in Texas (I have issues with this as well) but the three years would be insanely difficult for me.

Keep the opinions coming...
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: ElectricalStorm on May 04, 2007, 11:24:16 PM
<--- Loves being at UT. The students are smart and friendly (It's easy to make friends and you don't see mopey faces around...well, maybe before the morning coffee!), been taught by some of the best professors I've ever had, and the name opens plenty of doors from the very first summer (the 1L summer big-law money sure helps).

Just to throw in, the number of offices in TX listed on NALP as recruiting on campus:
UT: 99
Tulane: 36

I can imagine that plenty of people go from Tulane to Texas for work, but the simple thing is that it's going to be easier from UT.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 04, 2007, 11:42:41 PM
<--- Loves being at UT. The students are smart and friendly (It's easy to make friends and you don't see mopey faces around...well, maybe before the morning coffee!), been taught by some of the best professors I've ever had, and the name opens plenty of doors from the very first summer (the 1L summer big-law money sure helps).

Just to throw in, the number of offices in TX listed on NALP as recruiting on campus:
UT: 99
Tulane: 36

I can imagine that plenty of people go from Tulane to Texas for work, but the simple thing is that it's going to be easier from UT.

What would you estimate as the % of UTex 1Ls that get paying big law gigs?
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: Journeyman on May 05, 2007, 05:32:13 AM
Thanks for the input everyone...
 

Part of the reason I fell in love with Tulane is the passion the students have for their school, I was trying to find someone with that love for UT.


You're asking mostly 0L's to do the job that current student plants from the admissions office did, that seems a bit unreasonable doesn't it? I'm going to UT and couldn't be happier about it, just like most all of the people I met at ASW, but I don't really think it's impingent upon me to get you there. If you don't want to come, I'd say you're being a bit obstinate about the whole thing, then I'm sure they'll easily fill your seat with somone who's dying to.
You already know all the reasons you should pick Texas.

Good Luck with your decision.

TITCR
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: keelee on May 05, 2007, 06:21:44 AM
<--- Loves being at UT. The students are smart and friendly (It's easy to make friends and you don't see mopey faces around...well, maybe before the morning coffee!), been taught by some of the best professors I've ever had, and the name opens plenty of doors from the very first summer (the 1L summer big-law money sure helps).

Just to throw in, the number of offices in TX listed on NALP as recruiting on campus:
UT: 99
Tulane: 36

I can imagine that plenty of people go from Tulane to Texas for work, but the simple thing is that it's going to be easier from UT.

What would you estimate as the % of UTex 1Ls that get paying big law gigs?

The answer is here, but the website is currently down:
http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1168423325385

The answer is a very high percentage, one of the highest in the country, significantly higher than UT. If you go to Tulane over UT, you are giving up significant employment oppurtunities unless you want to work in Louisiana or Europe. Graduate in the middle of the class at UT and you can still get a BigLaw job. Middle of the class at Tulane? Kiss that BigLaw job goodbye.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: iscoredawaitlist on May 05, 2007, 07:56:17 AM
Thanks for the input everyone...
 

Part of the reason I fell in love with Tulane is the passion the students have for their school, I was trying to find someone with that love for UT.


You're asking mostly 0L's to do the job that current student plants from the admissions office did, that seems a bit unreasonable doesn't it? I'm going to UT and couldn't be happier about it, just like most all of the people I met at ASW, but I don't really think it's impingent upon me to get you there. If you don't want to come, I'd say you're being a bit obstinate about the whole thing, then I'm sure they'll easily fill your seat with somone who's dying to.

You already know all the reasons you should pick Texas.

Good Luck with your decision.

Agreed.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 05, 2007, 09:30:07 AM
<--- Loves being at UT. The students are smart and friendly (It's easy to make friends and you don't see mopey faces around...well, maybe before the morning coffee!), been taught by some of the best professors I've ever had, and the name opens plenty of doors from the very first summer (the 1L summer big-law money sure helps).

Just to throw in, the number of offices in TX listed on NALP as recruiting on campus:
UT: 99
Tulane: 36

I can imagine that plenty of people go from Tulane to Texas for work, but the simple thing is that it's going to be easier from UT.

What would you estimate as the % of UTex 1Ls that get paying big law gigs?

The answer is here, but the website is currently down:
http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1168423325385

The answer is a very high percentage, one of the highest in the country, significantly higher than UT. If you go to Tulane over UT, you are giving up significant employment oppurtunities unless you want to work in Louisiana or Europe. Graduate in the middle of the class at UT and you can still get a BigLaw job. Middle of the class at Tulane? Kiss that BigLaw job goodbye.

I read the article, but unless I missed it - there isn't anything on 1Ls there.  It just says UT does pretty well at the NLJ 250 (although worse than Fordham  ;))

Guys I am just trying to get all the information, there is no doubt that others would love to take my spot.  I will hold the spot until I have all the information I need to make the choice.

I was just trying to get some UT love going - if you don't want to talk about your school, don't.

 -- And I appreciate all the contributions guys!
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 05, 2007, 10:37:43 AM
Guys I am just trying to get all the information, there is no doubt that others would love to take my spot.  I will hold the spot until I have all the information I need to make the choice.

I was just trying to get some UT love going - if you don't want to talk about your school, don't.

Actually, it sounds like you've already made up your mind.  You seem convinced that you would be miserable in Austin, and I'm not sure what sort of evidence it would take to change that.

At some level, it doesn't matter what the objective facts are regarding what schools are "better" or "worse" - if you're going into an experience more biased towards the negative than the positive, the risk is high that you'll get what you expect.  This isn't a character judgment - it's human nature.

I like it here, and I know plenty of others who do too.  I'm sure there are a fair number who hate it, but this is counfounded by those who don't like UT and those who don't like law school, period.

UT is certainly not the only route to a law job in TX.  No one's going to look at a Tulane degree and automatically drop your resume in the circular file on that basis alone.  Your immediate opportunities (in terms of OCI) may be fewer, but in the end all you need is one that works out.  The majority of law students appear to be risk-averse creatures who feel most comfortable maximizing their chances at conventional success - biglaw, clerkship, etc.  Not everyone fits that mold, however, and for some, the subjective factors are paramount.  If that's you, go where you think you'll be happiest, make the most of it, and don't look back.

Back to studying...

Best response in the thread!  I have a huge Tulane bias, and I know it shows in this thread.  I am trying to fight it though, and thats why I keep posting here.

I have a better opinion of the UT students just from your post.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: Tulane1L on May 05, 2007, 11:09:43 AM
Only you can make this decision, not a bunch of random people you have never met on a message board.

So sit down, and consider everything - location, job prospects, general feelings, etc. and do what you think will make you happy in the end.  You will not be shooting yourself in the foot by attending either school, especially debt-free.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: Funky Cold Hrdina on May 05, 2007, 12:38:37 PM
Guys I am just trying to get all the information, there is no doubt that others would love to take my spot.  I will hold the spot until I have all the information I need to make the choice.

I was just trying to get some UT love going - if you don't want to talk about your school, don't.

Actually, it sounds like you've already made up your mind.  You seem convinced that you would be miserable in Austin, and I'm not sure what sort of evidence it would take to change that.

At some level, it doesn't matter what the objective facts are regarding what schools are "better" or "worse" - if you're going into an experience more biased towards the negative than the positive, the risk is high that you'll get what you expect.  This isn't a character judgment - it's human nature.

I like it here, and I know plenty of others who do too.  I'm sure there are a fair number who hate it, but this is counfounded by those who don't like UT and those who don't like law school, period.

UT is certainly not the only route to a law job in TX.  No one's going to look at a Tulane degree and automatically drop your resume in the circular file on that basis alone.  Your immediate opportunities (in terms of OCI) may be fewer, but in the end all you need is one that works out.  The majority of law students appear to be risk-averse creatures who feel most comfortable maximizing their chances at conventional success - biglaw, clerkship, etc.  Not everyone fits that mold, however, and for some, the subjective factors are paramount.  If that's you, go where you think you'll be happiest, make the most of it, and don't look back.

Back to studying...

Best response in the thread!  I have a huge Tulane bias, and I know it shows in this thread.  I am trying to fight it though, and thats why I keep posting here.

I have a better opinion of the UT students just from your post.

 :o

This whole time all you wanted was someone to tell you you're biased? geeze...
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: themanwithnoname on May 05, 2007, 04:34:36 PM
Only you can make this decision, not a bunch of random people you have never met on a message board.

So sit down, and consider everything - location, job prospects, general feelings, etc. and do what you think will make you happy in the end.  You will not be shooting yourself in the foot by attending either school, especially debt-free.

This is how you know you should go to U of T. A Tulane troll can't even say "go to tulane"/

Are you sure you want to practice in Louisiana? if the answer is no than you are absolutely nuts not to go to U of T.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: whoisjohngalt on May 05, 2007, 07:25:15 PM
Only you can make this decision, not a bunch of random people you have never met on a message board.

So sit down, and consider everything - location, job prospects, general feelings, etc. and do what you think will make you happy in the end.  You will not be shooting yourself in the foot by attending either school, especially debt-free.

This is how you know you should go to U of T. A Tulane troll can't even say "go to tulane"/

Are you sure you want to practice in Louisiana? if the answer is no than you are absolutely nuts not to go to U of T.

TITCR.  I think you'd be nuts to chose a school with worse job options that costs more $. 

OTOH, why buy a new Lexus at discount for $15k when you can get a sweet Chevy Aveo for $35k?
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: AntiGunner on May 05, 2007, 09:32:55 PM
Hey this is Mrs. Botbot

Today UTexas threw me a curve ball by offering a scholarship.  Total cost of UT is now less than $36,000.  Total cost of Tulane is about $50,000...

I am still 99% at Tulane next year, but I really wish I didn't open that stupid envelope.

UT trolls, convince me of its greatness!

What sort of fool whould choose TTTulane over UT?
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 05, 2007, 11:44:39 PM
Maybe me!
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: ě on May 06, 2007, 02:21:32 AM
OTOH, why buy a new Lexus at discount for $15k when you can get a sweet Chevy Aveo for $35k?
Because the Lexus isn't a Chevy.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: whoisjohngalt on May 06, 2007, 07:12:50 AM
OTOH, why buy a new Lexus at discount for $15k when you can get a sweet Chevy Aveo for $35k?
Because the Lexus isn't a Chevy.

You might not have understood - it's what we call "sarcasm."
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: ě on May 06, 2007, 11:34:24 AM
You might not have understood but it's usually a good idea to indicate moods like sarcasm on a written forum.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: keelee on May 06, 2007, 02:10:05 PM
OTOH, why buy a new Lexus at discount for $15k when you can get a sweet Chevy Aveo for $35k?
Because the Lexus isn't a Chevy.

Yeah, but the Chevy isn't a Chevy either. It's built in Korea by GM-Daewoo.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: UTDeac on May 06, 2007, 06:54:16 PM
Aside from the fact that Austin has lots of live music (not that you'd have time to enjoy it) and UTexas has great athletics, it's a better school and it's cheaper.  $14K a year would be $42K by the time you get your JD.  That's a big difference.  Also is cost of living cheaper in Austin?

And not to be the rain on parade, but what if another hurricane hits NOLA?  Then what?
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 06, 2007, 07:15:03 PM
Aside from the fact that Austin has lots of live music (not that you'd have time to enjoy it) and UTexas has great athletics, it's a better school and it's cheaper.  $14K a year would be $42K by the time you get your JD.  That's a big difference.  Also is cost of living cheaper in Austin?

And not to be the rain on parade, but what if another hurricane hits NOLA?  Then what?

The total difference is 14k...  Cost of living would actually be higher in Austin in my situation.

I do not see any reason the legal community would react any differently to another hurricane...
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: CoxlessPair on May 06, 2007, 07:44:56 PM
Aside from the fact that Austin has lots of live music (not that you'd have time to enjoy it) and UTexas has great athletics, it's a better school and it's cheaper.  $14K a year would be $42K by the time you get your JD.  That's a big difference.  Also is cost of living cheaper in Austin?

And not to be the rain on parade, but what if another hurricane hits NOLA?  Then what?

And $42K is not just $42K. At 8% interest for loans, and then that you will be earning like $1.60 for every $1 you keep, it can be a more significant figure that it appears.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: UTDeac on May 06, 2007, 08:10:29 PM
Aside from the fact that Austin has lots of live music (not that you'd have time to enjoy it) and UTexas has great athletics, it's a better school and it's cheaper.  $14K a year would be $42K by the time you get your JD.  That's a big difference.  Also is cost of living cheaper in Austin?

And not to be the rain on parade, but what if another hurricane hits NOLA?  Then what?

The total difference is 14k...  Cost of living would actually be higher in Austin in my situation.

I do not see any reason the legal community would react any differently to another hurricane...

The legal community might not be greatly affected by another serious hurricane, but the university itself could be.  I mean odds are the same thing that happened in fall of 2005 won't happen again for a long time, but would you really want to be forced to take a semester off/study somewhere else due to a freak hurricane?  I know this is a distanct concern, but it's one minor factor that can be weighed with all the other ones like debt, location, $$$, $$$, and $$$.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: ElectricalStorm on May 07, 2007, 12:13:37 AM
Aside from the fact that Austin has lots of live music (not that you'd have time to enjoy it)

There's time. I think I have already been to more concerts than I did in all of undergrad haha.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: SilentSwirl on May 07, 2007, 01:18:39 AM
If you want more people with UT/Tulane knowledge to answer, you might consider changing the subject of your thread to something that incorporates those two names. I am personally more likely to click on a thread with the intent to provide information if I know before I click on it that I have information to provide. As it is, you are probably getting alot of 'curious clickers' and not enough 'good UT trolls,' because they don't know you're looking for them.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: skyhigh711 on May 07, 2007, 06:52:25 AM
I call shenanigans.
Title: Re: The plot thickens...
Post by: botbot on May 07, 2007, 09:19:52 AM
Aside from the fact that Austin has lots of live music (not that you'd have time to enjoy it) and UTexas has great athletics, it's a better school and it's cheaper.  $14K a year would be $42K by the time you get your JD.  That's a big difference.  Also is cost of living cheaper in Austin?

And not to be the rain on parade, but what if another hurricane hits NOLA?  Then what?

And $42K is not just $42K. At 8% interest for loans, and then that you will be earning like $1.60 for every $1 you keep, it can be a more significant figure that it appears.

Again.... No debt on graduation, total cost difference is 14k.  Cost is not a very big concern at all. 

I lived on the gulf coast for a few years, I understand hurricane risks.
Title: Re: The plot thickens... (UT TROLLS CLICK HERE)
Post by: Will Hunting on May 07, 2007, 12:57:51 PM
Just go to Tulane.  Everyone has already addressed all the regular decision topics that one typically looks at to make their LS decision (rank, job placement, location, QOL, COL, library, professor quality, clinics) and it seems to make no difference.  It's been said before, but go wherever makes you happy.  I've read every post in this thread and if the things that have been said won't pursuade you, nothing will.  Go to Tulane and enjoy it. 

Personal aside, I go to UT right now in a Master's program and a few of my classmates went to NOLA and Florida for spring break.  NOLA was disgusting, smelled literally like poop, and made me miss Austin in a matter of hours. Just my $.02.
Title: Re: The plot thickens... (UT TROLLS CLICK HERE)
Post by: kirkcameronsgf on May 07, 2007, 01:09:18 PM
Good luck deciding Miss Bot!  :-*
Title: Re: The plot thickens... (UT TROLLS CLICK HERE)
Post by: General2010 on May 07, 2007, 01:59:09 PM
Have you really spent that much time in Austin? Many people visit Austin and only do the touristy things and don't get to see some of the stuff that makes Austin so great (many Austinites, including myself, get tired of 6th street after about three months past their 21st birthday). Yes, the area west of town is gorgeous, but there are some great neighborhoods within Austin, and they're not overrun with UT undergrads. I agree with the previous posters that your mind seems to be made up, but the only people who I've ever met who hated Austin were either northerners who didn't like the heat and South Carolinians who didn't like that there are weird people walking around the drag. I suppose I will be less of a UT troll in this thread and more of an Austin troll.
Title: Re: The plot thickens... (UT TROLLS CLICK HERE)
Post by: Funky Cold Hrdina on May 07, 2007, 02:03:56 PM
Just go to Tulane.  Everyone has already addressed all the regular decision topics that one typically looks at to make their LS decision (rank, job placement, location, QOL, COL, library, professor quality, clinics) and it seems to make no difference.  It's been said before, but go wherever makes you happy.  I've read every post in this thread and if the things that have been said won't pursuade you, nothing will.  Go to Tulane and enjoy it. 

Personal aside, I go to UT right now in a Master's program and a few of my classmates went to NOLA and Florida for spring break.  NOLA was disgusting, smelled literally like poop, and made me miss Austin in a matter of hours. Just my $.02.

haha, I knew we were meant to be together.  :-*