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Title: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 09, 2007, 10:15:34 PM
From http://www.slate.com/id/2163601/nav/tap2/ (http://www.slate.com/id/2163601/nav/tap2/):

"Goodling is only one of 150 graduates of Regent University currently serving in this administration, as Regent's Web site proclaims proudly, a huge number for a 29-year-old school. Regent estimates that "approximately one out of every six Regent alumni is employed in some form of government work." And that's precisely what its founder desired. The school's motto is "Christian Leadership To Change the World," and the world seems to be changing apace. Former Attorney General John Ashcroft teaches at Regent, and graduates have achieved senior positions in the Bush administration. The express goal is not only to tear down the wall between church and state in America (a "lie of the left," according to Robertson) but also to enmesh the two."
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Nimmy on April 10, 2007, 02:46:34 AM
I've been really following this story in the liberal blogosphere, and I'm amazed that a crappy school like Regent Law gets so many people placed in the upper echelons of the government.  Even in this administration.

I'm also a little disappointed that no one has yet to criticize Regent grads' intelligence since they went to one of the crappiest schools in the country.  It's probably the equivalent of going to the Carribean for Med School.  We realize that T14 kids were being passed up for government jobs, so Regent students could get career positions in the Justice Department they are no where close to qualified for, right?

Bush really makes me mad, but that House of Cards is really wobbling right now.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 10, 2007, 06:00:31 AM
I've been really following this story in the liberal blogosphere, and I'm amazed that a crappy school like Regent Law gets so many people placed in the upper echelons of the government.  Even in this administration.

I'm also a little disappointed that no one has yet to criticize Regent grads' intelligence since they went to one of the crappiest schools in the country.  It's probably the equivalent of going to the Carribean for Med School.  We realize that T14 kids were being passed up for government jobs, so Regent students could get career positions in the Justice Department they are no where close to qualified for, right?

Bush really makes me mad, but that House of Cards is really wobbling right now.

They had a JD and presumably passed the bar... they had ALL of the same qualifications as a T-14 grad.

Am I less intelligent than Data because he is going to Yale and I'll be at #22?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Navygirl on April 10, 2007, 07:36:09 AM
anyone calling the 1st Amendment a "lie to the left" --especially working in government, can be presumed to have zero intelligence.  I don't care where they went to law school.

Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 10, 2007, 10:03:56 AM
They had a JD and presumably passed the bar... they had ALL of the same qualifications as a T-14 grad.

Having a JD =/= same qualifications

For a partner at a big law firm, the T14/TTT distinction is easy to make. For the US government, it is a lot harder to do that. It's like the US Government telling GM that they'll no longer buy Chevy's because they are crap... You can't do that... It's an American company that sells cars -- you have to take it at face value. ABA says Regent is a real law school, therefore the government must treat it as every bit as much of a real law school as Georgetown.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 10, 2007, 12:18:03 PM
pat robertson wear diapers.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 10, 2007, 02:22:36 PM
Do you think Regent REALLY encourages critical thought??

I don't go there, but I assume that to practice law, you'd need to think critically. Now, Regent starts with the biggest jesus-nutters they can find, and molds them into critically-thinking-jesus-lawyers, but I HAVE TO assume that they teach the law in a *similar* fashion to everyone else.

There really isn't any other way to teach common law... is there?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Elephant Lee on April 10, 2007, 02:27:53 PM
For a partner at a big law firm, the T14/TTT distinction is easy to make. For the US government, it is a lot harder to do that. It's like the US Government telling GM that they'll no longer buy Chevy's because they are crap... You can't do that... It's an American company that sells cars -- you have to take it at face value. ABA says Regent is a real law school, therefore the government must treat it as every bit as much of a real law school as Georgetown.

What in the world. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone make that claim. Of course they can evaluate the relative merit of schools (and degrees). Are they obligated to be cheerleaders for all American law schools?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: skeeball on April 10, 2007, 02:40:32 PM
I think 0Ls get pissed about this news story because they've bought into the "High LSAT+ High GHP = T14 School = $$$ Salary or Important Governemnt Job" mentality, and now it's like "Wait...I can go to a T4 and still get a sweet government job?? WTF??"

Plus it's not like the Bush Admin is just offering jobs to grads from any old T4. Everyone knows the philosphy of this school, why it was started, and why its grads are in demand.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Elephant Lee on April 10, 2007, 02:44:27 PM
Here's some homework for the class: look up the US Attorney for your district and report back what school they went to.

Mine: Harvard.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: skeeball on April 10, 2007, 02:48:50 PM
Here's some homework for the class: look up the US Attorney for your district and report back what school they went to.

Mine: Harvard.

Catholic
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Astro on April 10, 2007, 02:52:41 PM
They had a JD and presumably passed the bar... they had ALL of the same qualifications as a T-14 grad.

Having a JD =/= same qualifications

For a partner at a big law firm, the T14/TTT distinction is easy to make. For the US government, it is a lot harder to do that. It's like the US Government telling GM that they'll no longer buy Chevy's because they are crap... You can't do that... It's an American company that sells cars -- you have to take it at face value. ABA says Regent is a real law school, therefore the government must treat it as every bit as much of a real law school as Georgetown.

::opens own law school::
::takes bush's job::


::attends::
::passes mom on second try::
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: rojo on April 10, 2007, 03:04:16 PM
From http://www.slate.com/id/2163601/nav/tap2/ (http://www.slate.com/id/2163601/nav/tap2/):

I saw that article the other day.  I totally wanted to go to that law school back in 1988 (now you have an idea of how truly screwed up I am).
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Nimmy on April 10, 2007, 04:34:44 PM
I've been really following this story in the liberal blogosphere, and I'm amazed that a crappy school like Regent Law gets so many people placed in the upper echelons of the government.  Even in this administration.

I'm also a little disappointed that no one has yet to criticize Regent grads' intelligence since they went to one of the crappiest schools in the country.  It's probably the equivalent of going to the Carribean for Med School.  We realize that T14 kids were being passed up for government jobs, so Regent students could get career positions in the Justice Department they are no where close to qualified for, right?

Bush really makes me mad, but that House of Cards is really wobbling right now.

They had a JD and presumably passed the bar... they had ALL of the same qualifications as a T-14 grad.

Am I less intelligent than Data because he is going to Yale and I'll be at #22?

No, but there's a big difference between even a T3 school and Regent.  They offer tons of classes in Biblical Law and have vastly under qualified professors for almost any ABA school.  In addition, they admit ANYONE, presumably teach to the bar exam, and try to indoctrinate their students into a lockstep worldview instead of encouraging the free flow of ideas.

I do not try to discriminate based on where one goes to school because I'm not going to a T1 myself, but come on, there is a big difference between a Regent grad and a Harvard grad.  The bar exam argument is worthless, crappy schools like Regent teach to the bar exam for 3 years, while elite schools don't touch on many bar topics at all if one does not choose to take certain classes.  I don't think one's ability to take a bar prep course means they are a qualified lawyer.

Here's some homework for the class: look up the US Attorney for your district and report back what school they went to.

Mine: Harvard.

Mine: Marquette (just had a political conviction dismissed FROM THE BENCH of the appeals court and is now at the center of the Attorneygate scandal)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 10, 2007, 05:30:57 PM
Here's some homework for the class: look up the US Attorney for your district and report back what school they went to.

Mine: Harvard.

Seton Hall...

Relevance?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Nimmy on April 10, 2007, 05:35:48 PM
No idea about the relevance.  It shows that one can attain a high position without going to a T14, but it probably shows a strong bias against bottom rung T4's like Regent, Cooley, and Roger Williams as well.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Flash45 on April 10, 2007, 05:42:57 PM
my US Attorney: BC

i am from NH
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Elephant Lee on April 10, 2007, 06:01:09 PM
Here's some homework for the class: look up the US Attorney for your district and report back what school they went to.

Mine: Harvard.

Seton Hall...

Relevance?
I was curious. I figured it would be slanted towards tier 1 schools or whatever, but it's not clear that that's true.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 10, 2007, 09:02:57 PM
Pat Robertson gives Oral Roberts to Jerry Fallwell.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: rojo on April 10, 2007, 09:06:14 PM
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. -- The title of the course was Constitutional Law, but the subject was sin. Before any casebooks were opened, a student led his classmates in a 10-minute devotional talk, completed with "amens," about the need to preserve their Christian values.




Thats from the globe-----  ridicuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulous

 ::) It's not that bad.  A lot of time is wasted in class anyways.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 11, 2007, 05:42:04 AM
Pat Robertson gives Oral Roberts to Jerry Fallwell.

did you know oral had twin brother whose bible-thumping career not go so well?

his name anal roberts.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 11, 2007, 05:43:06 AM
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. -- The title of the course was Constitutional Law, but the subject was sin. Before any casebooks were opened, a student led his classmates in a 10-minute devotional talk, completed with "amens," about the need to preserve their Christian values.




Thats from the globe----- ridicuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulous

 ::) It's not that bad. A lot of time is wasted in class anyways.

except that then they spent 45 minutes pissing on picture of bill clinton.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: rojo on April 11, 2007, 07:21:36 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 11, 2007, 08:13:11 AM
hey, check out regent's curriculum here:  http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2007_04_08_archive.html#620221923492478826

you may have scroll just bit, but it hoot.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 11, 2007, 11:44:25 AM
Just because people attend Regent doesn't necessarily mean that their thinking is inline with Pat Robertson.

I'm considering Regent as a safety... and the biggest reason I don't want to go there is this thread. Regardless of whether or not I believe with their methods, I will be associated with them for the rest of my life! Maybe others are in the boat I am in.

They seem to win a lot of mock trial awards and brief awards... so I venture to guess that they are getting a decent education, and they're not all crummy.

I can go to a different law school and still be a Christian leader that changes the world!
And I'll have broadened my horizons and seen and analyzed several different viewpoints. :)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 11, 2007, 12:47:01 PM
oh, please, go there and disagree with them.  and be sure let us know how it turn out.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 11, 2007, 01:43:44 PM
oh, please, go there and disagree with them.  and be sure let us know how it turn out.

I certainly hope that I get into a better school!

But if not... Oh the headache!
The Bible I have read says that Christians are supposed to take care of the poor, the orphaned, and the widowed. I have a feeling that this belief will make me too much of a liberal! :)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: rojo on April 11, 2007, 01:49:15 PM
oh, please, go there and disagree with them.  and be sure let us know how it turn out.

I certainly hope that I get into a better school!

But if not... Oh the headache!
The Bible I have read says that Christians are supposed to take care of the poor, the orphaned, and the widowed. I have a feeling that this belief will make me too much of a liberal! :)


It shouldn't be a problem as long as you can separate "Christians" from "The Federal Government."
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 11, 2007, 02:06:58 PM
From the Regent handbook Standard of Personal Conduct:


In order to accomplish these aims, it is imperative that Regent University faculty, staff and students conduct themselves in a Christ-like and professional manner and maintain an exemplary and involved lifestyle, including regular church attendance, participation in activities of the Regent community and its founding organization.

As indicated below, Regent also forbids the use of alcohol and tobacco on campus and prohibits the abuse of these substances.

Sexual misconduct. Disorderly conduct or lewd, indecent or obscene conduct or expression, involvement with pornography, premarital sex, adultery, homosexual conduct or any other conduct, which violates Biblical standards, is prohibited.

Profanity. Profane or obscene expressions including, but not limited to, speech, which violates accepted standards of decency and Biblical conduct is prohibited (except when used in an appropriate academic context).

GFL Sport. If you want to be a World-Changing Christian leader, try to bump your LSAT up a couple of points and go to BC or ND, where you can enjoy an adult beverage, drop an f-bomb, and maybe, God willing, even get laid every once in a great while.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 11, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
If you want to be a World-Changing Christian leader, try to bump your LSAT up a couple of points and go to BC or ND, where you can enjoy an adult beverage, drop an f-bomb, and maybe, God willing, even get laid every once in a great while.

ND and BC and GT and Villanova, etc. are Catholic. A good protestant would never subject themselves to that.

Besides, while Catholic schools won't necessarily kick you out for all of that stuff in the Regent handbook, they definitely poo-poo it just the same.

Besides, a good Christian World-Changing leader (in theory) wouldn't want to "get laid" via pre-marital sex or any of the other fun stuff you mentioned.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 11, 2007, 02:15:53 PM
If you want to be a World-Changing Christian leader, try to bump your LSAT up a couple of points and go to BC or ND, where you can enjoy an adult beverage, drop an f-bomb, and maybe, God willing, even get laid every once in a great while.

ND and BC and GT and Villanova, etc. are Catholic. A good protestant would never subject themselves to that.

Besides, while Catholic schools won't necessarily kick you out for all of that stuff in the Regent handbook, they definitely poo-poo it just the same.

Besides, a good Christian World-Changing leader (in theory) wouldn't want to "get laid" via pre-marital sex or any of the other fun stuff you mentioned.

Tell that to MLK (loved the ladies), Winston Chirchill (loved Scotch and Cigars), or Pope John Paul (cursed like a drunken sailor). Even Jimmy Carter had lust in his heart.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: rojo on April 11, 2007, 05:32:37 PM
If you want to be a World-Changing Christian leader, try to bump your LSAT up a couple of points and go to BC or ND, where you can enjoy an adult beverage, drop an f-bomb, and maybe, God willing, even get laid every once in a great while.

ND and BC and GT and Villanova, etc. are Catholic. A good protestant would never subject themselves to that.

Besides, while Catholic schools won't necessarily kick you out for all of that stuff in the Regent handbook, they definitely poo-poo it just the same.

BC does not poo-poo any of that and I think the Catholics feel out of place.  If you're looking to law school to help you become a world changing leader, go to HYS.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 11, 2007, 07:36:38 PM
If you want to be a World-Changing Christian leader, try to bump your LSAT up a couple of points and go to BC or ND, where you can enjoy an adult beverage, drop an f-bomb, and maybe, God willing, even get laid every once in a great while.

ND and BC and GT and Villanova, etc. are Catholic. A good protestant would never subject themselves to that.

LOL, as a Protestant, I don't really care.
ND is a "secular Christian" school, in my opinion.
Religion isn't worked into the curriculum like it is at Regent, from what I can tell.


Besides, a good Christian World-Changing leader (in theory) wouldn't want to "get laid" via pre-marital sex or any of the other fun stuff you mentioned.

Ha! Touché! I agree. :D
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 11, 2007, 07:49:18 PM
If you want to be a World-Changing Christian leader, try to bump your LSAT up a couple of points and go to BC or ND, where you can enjoy an adult beverage, drop an f-bomb, and maybe, God willing, even get laid every once in a great while.

ND and BC and GT and Villanova, etc. are Catholic. A good protestant would never subject themselves to that.

LOL, as a Protestant, I don't really care.
ND is a "secular Christian" school, in my opinion.
Religion isn't worked into the curriculum like it is at Regent, from what I can tell.


Besides, a good Christian World-Changing leader (in theory) wouldn't want to "get laid" via pre-marital sex or any of the other fun stuff you mentioned.

Ha! Touché! I agree. :D

How wildly depressing. Is that avatar intentionally ironic?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: VAINGLORIOUS on April 11, 2007, 07:53:08 PM

ND and BC and GT and Villanova, etc. are Catholic. A good protestant would never subject themselves to that.[/quote]

LOL, as a Protestant, I don't really care.
ND is a "secular Christian" school, in my opinion.
Religion isn't worked into the curriculum like it is at Regent, from what I can tell.


Besides, a good Christian World-Changing leader (in theory) wouldn't want to "get laid" via pre-marital sex or any of the other fun stuff you mentioned.

Ha! Touché! I agree. :D
[/quote]

A good Anglican doesn't deign to distinguish between lunatic Papists and in-bred Evangelicals.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 11, 2007, 08:47:07 PM
If you want to be a World-Changing Christian leader, try to bump your LSAT up a couple of points and go to BC or ND, where you can enjoy an adult beverage, drop an f-bomb, and maybe, God willing, even get laid every once in a great while.

ND and BC and GT and Villanova, etc. are Catholic. A good protestant would never subject themselves to that.

Besides, while Catholic schools won't necessarily kick you out for all of that stuff in the Regent handbook, they definitely poo-poo it just the same.

BC does not poo-poo any of that and I think the Catholics feel out of place.  If you're looking to law school to help you become a world changing leader, go to HYS.

Oh? BC sells condoms in the campus store?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 11, 2007, 09:09:36 PM
If you want to be a World-Changing Christian leader, try to bump your LSAT up a couple of points and go to BC or ND, where you can enjoy an adult beverage, drop an f-bomb, and maybe, God willing, even get laid every once in a great while.

ND and BC and GT and Villanova, etc. are Catholic. A good protestant would never subject themselves to that.

Besides, while Catholic schools won't necessarily kick you out for all of that stuff in the Regent handbook, they definitely poo-poo it just the same.


BC does not poo-poo any of that and I think the Catholics feel out of place.  If you're looking to law school to help you become a world changing leader, go to HYS.

Oh? BC sells condoms in the campus store?

I have casual sex with with girls from BC. HTH!
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 11, 2007, 09:11:18 PM
If you want to be a World-Changing Christian leader, try to bump your LSAT up a couple of points and go to BC or ND, where you can enjoy an adult beverage, drop an f-bomb, and maybe, God willing, even get laid every once in a great while.

ND and BC and GT and Villanova, etc. are Catholic. A good protestant would never subject themselves to that.

LOL, as a Protestant, I don't really care.
ND is a "secular Christian" school, in my opinion.
Religion isn't worked into the curriculum like it is at Regent, from what I can tell.


Besides, a good Christian World-Changing leader (in theory) wouldn't want to "get laid" via pre-marital sex or any of the other fun stuff you mentioned.

Ha! Touché! I agree. :D

How wildly depressing. Is that avatar intentionally ironic?

LOL, no, it's the truth. I'm a wait-for-marriage guy.
And Boston Legal is just one of the best TV shows ever created.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: rojo on April 11, 2007, 10:19:58 PM
If you want to be a World-Changing Christian leader, try to bump your LSAT up a couple of points and go to BC or ND, where you can enjoy an adult beverage, drop an f-bomb, and maybe, God willing, even get laid every once in a great while.

ND and BC and GT and Villanova, etc. are Catholic. A good protestant would never subject themselves to that.

Besides, while Catholic schools won't necessarily kick you out for all of that stuff in the Regent handbook, they definitely poo-poo it just the same.

BC does not poo-poo any of that and I think the Catholics feel out of place.  If you're looking to law school to help you become a world changing leader, go to HYS.

Oh? BC sells condoms in the campus store?

Does not logically follow.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Navygirl on April 12, 2007, 12:44:12 AM
Well...FWIW...and IMHO if you want to "change the world" you'd be better off without the religious chip on your shoulder I'm sure a school with distaste and intolerance of others with opposing views will push on you. 

I personally would rather jump off of a building than sit in a class with a 10 minute introductory prayer to the constitutional law class--I'm sure 1st amendment discussions there are truly stimulating.  (smell the sarcasm, please)

I won't even touch on what a PP said about the school's beliefs...I'll just get angry.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 12, 2007, 04:51:39 AM
I have casual sex with with girls from BC. HTH!


as well as from all community colleges in mass., eh?

you be da man.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 12, 2007, 07:12:41 AM
I have casual sex with with girls from BC. HTH!


as well as from all community colleges in mass., eh?

you be da man.

That is, in point of fact, the credited response.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 12, 2007, 07:20:10 AM
only from yo momma.

and hey--nice sweater-vest!
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 12, 2007, 07:44:20 AM
only from yo momma.

and hey--nice sweater-vest!

Why the presumption of sleevelessness?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: H4CS on April 12, 2007, 07:49:02 AM
Oh? BC sells condoms in the campus store?

Harvard sells the blood of Christian babies in theirs.  Don't encourage the sub-regent trolls people, or feed him after midnight.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Navygirl on April 12, 2007, 08:00:15 AM
Christians, christians, christians. 

It's actually entertaining to hear some "christians" speak about themselves as a group.  It's even funnier hearing them speak (some of the fundy christians) about catholics as if they were the bane of their precious existence.  I guess the fact that catholics are in deed christians escapes them. 

My biggest problem with the current fundy christian mentality running through the high offices of this country is the superiority complex the belief seems to create in these people that makes them so adamently believe all other faiths (or nonfaiths as the case may be) are inferior.  This is precisely the kind of mentality the framers were trying to avoid.


But...I do have to note (small disclaimer) that I say "some" christians because I have met a few without these hardened views of superiority over every other person on the planet.  Some are actually my friends, and some are even my family.     
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 12, 2007, 08:40:33 AM
only from yo momma.

and hey--nice sweater-vest!

Why the presumption of sleevelessness?

because that dorkiest interpretation available.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 12, 2007, 08:59:44 AM
You sometimes forget to use articles and prepositions. HTH!
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 12, 2007, 12:22:47 PM
not mock handicapped, your dorkiness.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 12, 2007, 04:23:59 PM
Christians, christians, christians. 

It's actually entertaining to hear some "christians" speak about themselves as a group.  It's even funnier hearing them speak (some of the fundy christians) about catholics as if they were the bane of their precious existence.  I guess the fact that catholics are in deed christians escapes them. 

My biggest problem with the current fundy christian mentality running through the high offices of this country is the superiority complex the belief seems to create in these people that makes them so adamently believe all other faiths (or nonfaiths as the case may be) are inferior.  This is precisely the kind of mentality the framers were trying to avoid.


But...I do have to note (small disclaimer) that I say "some" christians because I have met a few without these hardened views of superiority over every other person on the planet.  Some are actually my friends, and some are even my family.     

If you think about it, there are several 'cultures' that are hardened and have a superiority complex. Look at this thread! The anti-Christian stench shows that those that aren't Christians are hardened and have a superiority complex... "Look at those uneducated, close-minded, intolerant Christians!"

You can say the same about atheists, evolutionists, creationists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Republicans, and Democrats, to name a few. I myself like to research other points of view just to understand where people are coming from, and to learn more about the issue than my point of view. 

Unfortunately, it's the loud Christians that make us all look bad... like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc. The majority of Christians I know, myself included, do not think along the lines that they do.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 12, 2007, 07:31:04 PM
yeash, well somebody voting for people like gump and hatch.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 12, 2007, 08:07:01 PM
Yeah, don't remind me. Next time the Dems should put out a better candidate.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 12, 2007, 09:21:01 PM
Yeah, don't remind me. Next time the Dems should put out a better candidate.

How about BOTH parties try putting out compelling candidates. And maybe a compelling 3rd Party guy too...
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Post by: Navygirl on April 12, 2007, 09:41:00 PM
What's the deal? Someone deleted my post.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Navygirl on April 12, 2007, 09:44:12 PM
Just so you know Alan Shore, I took a long time to write a response to your reply.  For whatever reason it didn't post or it was deleted.

I don't have the energy to rewrite it all.  But my major point was that I disagree that everyone has a superiority complex, and in fact, I gave a compelling argument for my belief that the (at least in THIS country) fundamentalist christians have a stronger superiority complex than those with other beliefs.   


This atheist (at least tonight) exits the conversation.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Navygirl on April 13, 2007, 09:11:16 AM

Highly ammused by the idea of "evolutionists"... 

I know.  That was one of the comments I addressed in my rebuttal.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 13, 2007, 09:14:32 AM
I don't have the energy to rewrite it all.  But my major point was that I disagree that everyone has a superiority complex, and in fact, I gave a compelling argument for my belief that the (at least in THIS country) fundamentalist christians have a stronger superiority complex than those with other beliefs.   

I do see your point, and I concede that the visible fundamentalist Christians in this country do have a superiority complex. Who else can trash the judiciary without repercussion or suggest the assassination of a foreign leader?

BUT, I don't think it's fair to say that all Christians behave in this manner, because that is entirely false. I believe the vast majority don't.

I guess I don't mean to say that everybody has a superiority complex, but that every viewpoint does to some extent. As future lawyers, we all will advocate one side to the best of our abilities, that is the system in this country. The visible leaders of any group suggest that their opinion is the one and only opinion, because to do otherwise (in their view) would be to weaken their position.

I like it when people work together, and I think they should, even fundamental Christians!
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Navygirl on April 13, 2007, 09:36:07 AM
I do see your point, and I concede that the visible fundamentalist Christians in this country do have a superiority complex. Who else can trash the judiciary without repercussion or suggest the assassination of a foreign leader?

I like it when people work together, and I think they should, even fundamental Christians!


Well...I can at least say that we agree on some things  :D
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Post by: d3b4s3r on April 13, 2007, 10:03:37 AM
Quote
LOL, no, it's the truth. I'm a wait-for-marriage guy.

Ummmm.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 13, 2007, 10:27:35 AM
Oh, those pesky evolutionists, with their so-called "facts"...  they are so stubborn!

Spare me.

Its not a fact! Evolution is only a THEORY! SO THERE SCIENCE BOY!


(Disclaimer: Captain Longshot is actually a fervent subscriber of evolutionary theory. He owns a copy of The Origin of Species, and sleeps in Charles Darwin jammies, under sheets he embroidered with an image of Dawin's ship, the HMS Beagle.)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 13, 2007, 11:18:01 AM
want join flat earth society?
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Post by: This is wrong. on April 13, 2007, 11:32:57 AM
Oh, those pesky evolutionists, with their so-called "facts"...  they are so stubborn!

Spare me.

Its not a fact! Evolution is only a THEORY! SO THERE SCIENCE BOY!


(Disclaimer: Captain Longshot is actually a fervent subscriber of evolutionary theory. He owns a copy of The Origin of Species, and sleeps in Charles Darwin jammies, under sheets he embroidered with an image of Dawin's ship, the HMS Beagle.)

part of the problem in my opinion is the difference between common usage of the term "theory" and the way the term is used in science.  the common usage of the term "theory" is probably more akin to the term "hypothesis" in science.

having said that, i don't believe in evolution. 
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 13, 2007, 11:35:17 AM
it theory with truly enormous amoount of evidence behind it.  all but law.

satisfied?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 13, 2007, 04:46:27 PM
Oh, those pesky evolutionists, with their so-called "facts"...  they are so stubborn!

Spare me.

Its not a fact! Evolution is only a THEORY! SO THERE SCIENCE BOY!


(Disclaimer: Captain Longshot is actually a fervent subscriber of evolutionary theory. He owns a copy of The Origin of Species, and sleeps in Charles Darwin jammies, under sheets he embroidered with an image of Dawin's ship, the HMS Beagle.)

part of the problem in my opinion is the difference between common usage of the term "theory" and the way the term is used in science.  the common usage of the term "theory" is probably more akin to the term "hypothesis" in science.

having said that, i don't believe in evolution. 

Seriously dude... all of those fossils were put there by the DEVIL. If you believe in evolution, you're falling for the DEVIL's tricks...
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 13, 2007, 05:12:40 PM
it theory with truly enormous amoount of evidence behind it.  all but law.

satisfied?

well that's what "theory" means in this context.  i'm pointing out that people just don't realize that.

having said that, i still don't believe in evolution.  and it hasn't had any practical effect on my life, so i don't see why i should change now.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 13, 2007, 05:18:45 PM
apparently stupidity become you.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 13, 2007, 05:19:28 PM
apparently stupidity become you.

no.  just trying to make the point that these little things actually are pretty unimportant.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 13, 2007, 05:24:29 PM
truth always important.  but if you want seem like ignoramus, good luck with that.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 13, 2007, 05:37:02 PM
truth always important.  but if you want seem like ignoramus, good luck with that.

truth overrated.  90% of "truth" just someone else's spin.

but mostly i'm going for "curmudgeonly".
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: vercingetorix on April 13, 2007, 05:44:45 PM
Seriously dude... all of those fossils were put there by the DEVIL. If you believe in evolution, you're falling for the DEVIL's tricks...

::Saddles up his Jesus-horse::

are you a former Marine?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 13, 2007, 06:07:27 PM
truth always important. but if you want seem like ignoramus, good luck with that.

truth overrated. 90% of "truth" just someone else's spin.

but mostly i'm going for "curmudgeonly".

being idiot overrated, too, except in president gump's administration.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 13, 2007, 06:09:15 PM
truth always important. but if you want seem like ignoramus, good luck with that.

truth overrated. 90% of "truth" just someone else's spin.

but mostly i'm going for "curmudgeonly".

being idiot overrated, too, except in president gump's administration.

yes, but sometimes it pisses people off and leads to entertaining results.

e.g. not using proper grammar to piss people off.  ;)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 13, 2007, 06:20:34 PM
not mock handicapped, forrest.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 13, 2007, 06:28:00 PM
not mock handicapped, forrest.

you started it.  your schtick is brain cloud.  my schtick is not believe evolution.  fair's fair.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 14, 2007, 04:07:17 PM
Oy vey. I did not mean to start an evolution thread.
This is starting to look like lawstudentparadise... a waste of Internet storage space. ::)

From studying evolution, I hardly believe that there is undeniable proof of it's existence.
While microevolution (change within species) clearly exists... a dog is still a dog is still a dog, whether it's a German shepherd or poodle... I have yet to see any significant evidence in favor of macroevolution (change across species).

What is science?
According to webster, it is "1 : the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding."
http://www.webster.com/dictionary/science

Can we KNOW?
How do you know that dinosaur bones are billions of years old.
"The fossil record tells us this."
How do you know those fossils are billions of years old?
"The dinosaur bones tell us."
This is not science, this is circular reasoning, which is a flawed reasoning.

Who here was there at the big bang and watched creatures evolve? Nobody.
I'll reverse the question to be fair: Who here was there when God created the world? Nobody.
They are both faith based systems.

More 'junk science' is Carbon dating.

www.iidb.org/vbb/archive/index.php/t-38149.html

*Living mollusk shells have been carbon dated at 2,300 years old (Science vol. 141, 1963 p. 634-637)
*Freshly killed seal was carbon dated at 1300 years old (Antarctic Journal vol. 6 Sept-Oct 1971 p. 211)
*Shells from living snails dated at 27,000 years old (Science vol. 224, 1984, p. 58-61)

If carbon dating doesn’t work for known ages, how is it supposed to work for unknown ages?

One of the biggest proofs of evolution is Haeckel's Embryo Diagrams. Haekel was accused of fraud by several scientists and convicted of fraud by a university court.

Great "facts" and "science"!

And if this theory is so 'ironclad' that would mean that all scientists agree right? Espeically evolutionary scientists.
Wrong. Read what Richard Milton, atheist and evolutionist, had to say.

   “Because it is a difficult job, a tacit understanding has arisen that it would be bad form or unseemly to criticize science or scientists seriously, as if they were a banker who added up sums wrongly or a grocer who forgot to deliver the sausages.
   “I reject this tacit consensus. I am a customer for the scientific service that we pay scientists to provide and I have a customer complaint: I am not satisfied with the answers they have provided on the mechanism of evolution and I want them to go back into their laboratories and investigate further.
   “I believe it is high time that consumerism finds a voice in the public sector and in the academic world as effectively as it has in industry and commerce. And I do not accept the convention that scientists may be criticized only by their peers.”

To make it certain that he's not a fruad, he makes clear his religious beliefs.
   
   “Let me make it unambiguously clear that I am not a creationist, nor do I have any religious beliefs of any kind. I am a professional writer and journalist who specializes in writing about science and technology and who writes about matters that I believer are of public interest.
   “For anyone, anywhere, to say that I am a creationist, a secret creationist, a “creationist ally,” or any other such weasel-word formulation, is an act of intellectual dishonesty by those who have no other answer to the scientific objections I have raised publicly…
   “Darwinism still has a large number of critics and it isn’t only creationists who have serious doubts about the theory or who have questioned the established view of historical geology.”
(Quoted in Martin, Jobe. The Evolution of a Creationist. Biblical Discipleship Publishers, Rockwall, TX: 2004. pp. 118-119)

And read what Stephen J. Gould had to say! We all know him to be an evolutionist.

“The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of fossils.”
Dr. Stephen J. Gould Stephen J. Gould - "Evolution's Erratic Pace," Natural History, vol. 86 (May 1987), p. 14.

To be fair, he later clarifies in the article, "The modern theory of evolution does not require gradual change. In fact, the operation of Darwinian processes should yield exactly what we see in the fossil record."

Belief in evolution also fosters racism, and Hitler was a staunch believer in evolution.
The entire title of the book by Darwin is (since edited for obvious PC reasons): "ON THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES: By Means of Natural Selection or The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life."

Oh, those pesky evolutionists, with their so-called "facts"...  they are so stubborn!


My point exactly! Talk about self-righteousness and superiority of a claim!

One of the best ways to learn about an issue, is to look at the other side.
We're all going to be lawyers, we know about this and 'cross-examination.'
One of the best cross-examiners of evolution is Dr. Kent Hovind.

http://www.drdino.org is an excellent site with free videos where you can learn some fascinating things about the not-so-unshakable theory of evolution.

This will conclude my discussion. I think we should continue to research both sides of the topic for ourselves, because I doubt we will come to a consensus here on these boards, and we should go back to talking about Regent! ;)

Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 14, 2007, 04:12:52 PM
check it out, debunking evolution isn't worth the effort.  just say you don't believe in it and you get the same amusing emotional responses without doing all the work.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: H4CS on April 14, 2007, 04:38:14 PM
Do you have peanut butter?  Then there's no evolution!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

That gets you an A at regent and a guaranteed gov't job and pardon.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 14, 2007, 04:39:31 PM
Do you have peanut butter?  Then there's no evolution!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

That gets you an A at regent and a guaranteed gov't job and pardon.

how long is that pardon good for?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 14, 2007, 05:22:58 PM
check it out, debunking evolution isn't worth the effort.  just say you don't believe in it and you get the same amusing emotional responses without doing all the work.

Yeah, but this way I show I actually have a point, rather than saying, "I belive this is the way it is and that's that!" (Which would prove my previous point about superiority complexes.)

Do you have peanut butter?  Then there's no evolution!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

That gets you an A at regent and a guaranteed gov't job and pardon.

I actually don't like peanut butter. :-/
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: H4CS on April 14, 2007, 05:29:52 PM
Yeah, but this way I show I actually have a point

You sure about that?  Claiming that you have a point may be a bit of a stretch.  Let's stick with feeling.  You have a feeling about evolution.  No wait.  It's more than a feeling (more than a feeling) when I hear that old song they used to play.  And that song is more than 6000 years old.   
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 14, 2007, 06:26:13 PM
check it out, debunking evolution isn't worth the effort.  just say you don't believe in it and you get the same amusing emotional responses without doing all the work.

Yeah, but this way I show I actually have a point, rather than saying, "I belive this is the way it is and that's that!" (Which would prove my previous point about superiority complexes.)

Do you have peanut butter?  Then there's no evolution!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

That gets you an A at regent and a guaranteed gov't job and pardon.

I actually don't like peanut butter. :-/

points are seriously overrated.  saying this is the way it is and that's that is a LOT more entertaining.

and entertainment is what's important.

for the record: evolution = myth

deal with it you slackers.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: mugatu on April 14, 2007, 06:42:26 PM
Horrified tag for later.

Seconded.

::goes back to read::
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: mugatu on April 14, 2007, 06:58:46 PM
I really like how the carbon dating papers were from more than 20 years ago.  :D
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 14, 2007, 07:00:47 PM
I really like how the carbon dating papers were from more than 20 years ago.  :D

you actually looked?  wtf dude, you should be studying for finals or something.  why are you posting on lsd when it should be crunch time for you?

for that matter, why am i posting?

::ponders::
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: mugatu on April 14, 2007, 07:01:49 PM
I really like how the carbon dating papers were from more than 20 years ago.  :D

you actually looked?  wtf dude, you should be studying for finals or something.  why are you posting on lsd when it should be crunch time for you?

for that matter, why am i posting?

::ponders::

It was in the post...
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: mugatu on April 14, 2007, 10:30:56 PM
I don't think it's particularly inconsistent.  Your view is the Catholic view, anyway.

What I like to remind people is that the old testament was written before anyone knew anything.  Fire, wheels, stacking blocks, farming.  That's about it.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Captain on April 14, 2007, 11:37:07 PM
Do you have peanut butter?  Then there's no evolution!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

Grumble Grumble Grumble

I honestly don't know what to say. If no human being has ever seen something happen, then we can never definitively prove it happened, we can only guess.

NOW, we do have evidence. Evidence from selective breeding  shows that genetic selection conducted by humans, can create new animals -- there are hundreds of breeds of dogs, and most domestic livestock have been modified through selective breeding to be very different from their ancestors.

Does this show that evolution has occurred? No. What it does do, is show that evolution is plausible.

There is ample evidence of evolution regardless of how well carbon-dating works. We know this: Fossils pre-date both living things and the recently deceased. We know this because fossils are dead, and recently deceased animals do not immediately turn into fossils.

Ok? Agreed?

So, if we find a fossil of a dinosaur with feathers, we can perhaps ask ourselves, "could birds be descended from dinosaurs?" Further evidence of the dinosaur bones, showing similar structure to avian species of today may further confirm that suspicion...

Hell, we'ver even created whole new species (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation#Artificial_speciation) through selective breeding (not that it proves that it happens in nature...).

You'd make a bad prosecutor if you don't believe in evolution though, because not believing in evolution ultimately amounts to a denial of genetics. A denial of genetics would make it hard for you to uphold DNA evidence in court, wouldn't it.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: mugatu on April 15, 2007, 01:12:10 AM
I really like how the carbon dating papers were from more than 20 years ago.  :D

Actually, I carbon-dated them... they were from 21 years ago.

Don't you mean 21,000 years ago?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: mugatu on April 15, 2007, 01:13:57 AM
Don't you mean 21,000 years ago?

Nope, the papers were from 21 years ago.  I checked.   ;)

:D  False science!
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 15, 2007, 03:47:30 AM

You'd make a bad prosecutor if you don't believe in evolution though, because not believing in evolution ultimately amounts to a denial of genetics. A denial of genetics would make it hard for you to uphold DNA evidence in court, wouldn't it.

Good thing I don't want to go into criminal law! ;)


I really like how the carbon dating papers were from more than 20 years ago.  :D

'Tis only fair, I like how  "ON THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES: By Means of Natural Selection or The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life" is from 148 years ago! :D    
   
(I am loving the new lightness of this thread.)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 15, 2007, 01:54:08 PM
Thousands of years old.
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Post by: This is wrong. on April 15, 2007, 02:02:40 PM
wow.  this conversation has gotten even more pointless.

i approve.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 15, 2007, 02:09:13 PM
Thousands of years old.


I could go here, but I won't.  Carry on y'all.

there will be no carrying on until you go there.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: mugatu on April 15, 2007, 02:55:50 PM

You'd make a bad prosecutor if you don't believe in evolution though, because not believing in evolution ultimately amounts to a denial of genetics. A denial of genetics would make it hard for you to uphold DNA evidence in court, wouldn't it.

Good thing I don't want to go into criminal law! ;)


I really like how the carbon dating papers were from more than 20 years ago.  :D

'Tis only fair, I like how  "ON THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES: By Means of Natural Selection or The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life" is from 148 years ago! :D    
   
(I am loving the new lightness of this thread.)

Sure, but that isn't what's currently driving the science.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 15, 2007, 03:14:00 PM

there will be no carrying on until you go there.

And look how wrong you turned out to be, Smarty McSmartPants.

eh, even i'm wrong once in a while.  i'm still right a higher % of the time than red.

that's right.  i said it.  so what?

::prepares to be cut down to size::
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Nimmy on April 16, 2007, 02:43:38 AM
But there is new life. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there.

I guarantee there is some life inside that jar of peanut butter.  It isn't new life, but what ignorance of science when a guy just takes a naked eye look at something and concludes "hey look, there's no life here!"  Microscope it retard.

And an overhead storage room light is not exactly a bolt of lightning either.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: flyaway on April 16, 2007, 05:28:22 AM
What does being a non-feminist mean?  You don't believe in equality of and for women?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 06:12:00 AM
What does being a non-feminist mean?  You don't believe in equality of and for women?

equality with what?  :D

no seriously though, i just think "feminist" is a misnomer.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 06:31:57 AM
not mock handicapped, forrest.

you started it. your schtick is brain cloud. my schtick is not believe evolution. fair's fair.

no, your schtick up ass of your neanderthal bible-thumping loonies.  julie got no schtick.

putz.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: flyaway on April 16, 2007, 06:35:25 AM
Yeah, I mean I do think the word "feminist" has a bad rap, but I want to take that word back. :)

To me, my husband is a feminist, even though he himself doesn't particularly like that word and definitely gets annoyed by more extreme feminist views, and he and I even disagree sometimes about what he perceives to be prejudices against white males.  But I feel that he truly and deeply respects and likes women and views them as equal to men, in their value, intelligence, etc., and would never want to limit women to a particular role rather than treating them as individuals.  And he has no hang-ups about my making more money than him after law school.  He's also willing to be a stay-at-home dad for a few years if we decide that's what would work best for us.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 06:35:53 AM
check it out, debunking evolution isn't worth the effort. just say you don't believe in it and you get the same amusing emotional responses without doing all the work.

it not going work to now say you only pretend not believe evolution.

you drank loonies' kool-aid.  just admit it.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 06:38:11 AM
check it out, debunking evolution isn't worth the effort. just say you don't believe in it and you get the same amusing emotional responses without doing all the work.

Yeah, but this way I show I actually have a point, rather than saying, "I belive this is the way it is and that's that!" (Which would prove my previous point about superiority complexes.)

Do you have peanut butter? Then there's no evolution! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

That gets you an A at regent and a guaranteed gov't job and pardon.

I actually don't like peanut butter. :-/

points are seriously overrated. saying this is the way it is and that's that is a LOT more entertaining.

and entertainment is what's important.

for the record: evolution = myth

deal with it you slackers.

when you graduate from oral roberts u.?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 06:41:26 AM

for that matter, why am i posting?

::ponders::

why you even alive?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 06:46:15 AM

there will be no carrying on until you go there.

And look how wrong you turned out to be, Smarty McSmartPants.

eh, even i'm wrong once in a while. i'm still right a higher % of the time than red.

that's right. i said it. so what?

::prepares to be cut down to size::

gee, and you so small already.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 06:51:29 AM

Good thing I don't want to go into criminal law! ;)

have you considered nice career in chincilla ranching?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 06:55:02 AM
check it out, debunking evolution isn't worth the effort. just say you don't believe in it and you get the same amusing emotional responses without doing all the work.

it not going work to now say you only pretend not believe evolution.

you drank loonies' kool-aid.  just admit it.

nope.  just goading.  look at you, you're falling for it just like that.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 06:55:22 AM

for that matter, why am i posting?

::ponders::

why you even alive?

seriously, my tar doesn't score ANY points with you?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 06:56:11 AM
not mock handicapped, forrest.

you started it. your schtick is brain cloud. my schtick is not believe evolution. fair's fair.

no, your schtick up ass of your neanderthal bible-thumping loonies.  julie got no schtick.

putz.

woah, hold on.

not believing evolution =/= creationist

i mean seriously...
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 06:57:02 AM
check it out, debunking evolution isn't worth the effort. just say you don't believe in it and you get the same amusing emotional responses without doing all the work.

it not going work to now say you only pretend not believe evolution.

you drank loonies' kool-aid. just admit it.

nope. just goading. look at you, you're falling for it just like that.

you idiot who just trying cover tracks.

try again, darwin-hater.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 06:58:23 AM
check it out, debunking evolution isn't worth the effort. just say you don't believe in it and you get the same amusing emotional responses without doing all the work.

it not going work to now say you only pretend not believe evolution.

you drank loonies' kool-aid. just admit it.

nope. just goading. look at you, you're falling for it just like that.

you idiot who just trying cover tracks.

try again, darwin-hater.

oh jules, how you entertain me so.

lookit here, see how offended you get when somebody denies evolution?  same way creationists get mad when somebody denies creationism? 

once we've convinced ourselves that we've arrived at the END of the inquiry instead of being somewhere in the middle, that's when we're in the ignominious company of the bushies.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 06:59:03 AM

for that matter, why am i posting?

::ponders::

why you even alive?

seriously, my tar doesn't score ANY points with you?

you just pretending be sane in tar so some chick pay attention to your nonevolutionary pencildick.

let this be lesson to you.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 06:59:14 AM
Yeah, I mean I do think the word "feminist" has a bad rap, but I want to take that word back. :)

To me, my husband is a feminist, even though he himself doesn't particularly like that word and definitely gets annoyed by more extreme feminist views, and he and I even disagree sometimes about what he perceives to be prejudices against white males.  But I feel that he truly and deeply respects and likes women and views them as equal to men, in their value, intelligence, etc., and would never want to limit women to a particular role rather than treating them as individuals.  And he has no hang-ups about my making more money than him after law school.  He's also willing to be a stay-at-home dad for a few years if we decide that's what would work best for us.

very respectable.  i commend.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 07:00:02 AM

for that matter, why am i posting?

::ponders::

why you even alive?

seriously, my tar doesn't score ANY points with you?

you just pretending be sane in tar so some chick pay attention to your nonevolutionary pencildick.

let this be lesson to you.

"pretending to be sane."  :D

seriously though, i apologize for saying disrespectful things about the tenets of your religion.  ;)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 07:00:16 AM
not mock handicapped, forrest.

you started it. your schtick is brain cloud. my schtick is not believe evolution. fair's fair.

no, your schtick up ass of your neanderthal bible-thumping loonies. julie got no schtick.

putz.

woah, hold on.

not believing evolution =/= creationist

i mean seriously...

there you go again...
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 07:01:56 AM
check it out, debunking evolution isn't worth the effort. just say you don't believe in it and you get the same amusing emotional responses without doing all the work.

it not going work to now say you only pretend not believe evolution.

you drank loonies' kool-aid. just admit it.

nope. just goading. look at you, you're falling for it just like that.

you idiot who just trying cover tracks.

try again, darwin-hater.

oh jules, how you entertain me so.

lookit here, see how offended you get when somebody denies evolution? same way creationists get mad when somebody denies creationism?

once we've convinced ourselves that we've arrived at the END of the inquiry instead of being somewhere in the middle, that's when we're in the ignominious company of the bushies.

julie not offended, just like giving proper recognition to numbnut ideas.

consider self recognized.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 07:03:22 AM
check it out, debunking evolution isn't worth the effort. just say you don't believe in it and you get the same amusing emotional responses without doing all the work.

it not going work to now say you only pretend not believe evolution.

you drank loonies' kool-aid. just admit it.

nope. just goading. look at you, you're falling for it just like that.

you idiot who just trying cover tracks.

try again, darwin-hater.

oh jules, how you entertain me so.

lookit here, see how offended you get when somebody denies evolution? same way creationists get mad when somebody denies creationism?

once we've convinced ourselves that we've arrived at the END of the inquiry instead of being somewhere in the middle, that's when we're in the ignominious company of the bushies.

julie not offended, just like giving proper recognition to numbnut ideas.

consider self recognized.

"we could be wrong" = numbnut idea?

sounds truly bushian.

not your best moment jules, but i'll let it pass.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 07:03:57 AM

for that matter, why am i posting?

::ponders::

why you even alive?

seriously, my tar doesn't score ANY points with you?

you just pretending be sane in tar so some chick pay attention to your nonevolutionary pencildick.

let this be lesson to you.

"pretending to be sane." :D

seriously though, i apologize for saying disrespectful things about the tenets of your religion. ;)

what religion that, empiricism?

you still losing ground, sparky.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 07:05:33 AM
"we could be wrong" = numbnut idea?

sounds truly bushian.

not your best moment jules, but i'll let it pass.

how republican of you.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 07:06:43 AM

for that matter, why am i posting?

::ponders::

why you even alive?

seriously, my tar doesn't score ANY points with you?

you just pretending be sane in tar so some chick pay attention to your nonevolutionary pencildick.

let this be lesson to you.

"pretending to be sane." :D

seriously though, i apologize for saying disrespectful things about the tenets of your religion. ;)

what religion that, empiricism?

you still losing ground, sparky.

difference between saying that weight of evidence points to something and saying something DEFINITELY TRUE, which is what you're doing.

the fact that you never ever admit that you might be wrong isn't a recipe for victory.  just makes you look like pres gump.

"we could be wrong" = numbnut idea?

sounds truly bushian.

not your best moment jules, but i'll let it pass.

how republican of you.

::)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 07:10:09 AM

difference between saying that weight of evidence points to something and saying something DEFINITELY TRUE, which is what you're doing.

the fact that you never ever admit that you might be wrong isn't a recipe for victory. just makes you look like pres gump.


your high school debate tricks not going cut it here, slim.  what julie say is that evidence in favor of evolution overwhelming.  thus, anyone who say not believe in evolution = intellectual dipshit.

sorry if truth hurts.

maybe you should go back pretending never say it.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 07:12:09 AM
what julie say is that evidence in favor of evolution overwhelming. 

thus, anyone who say not believe in evolution = intellectual dipshit.

one can acknowledge the former without transforming it into a belief, can one not? 

jules, you're all about absolutes.  and anyone who doesn't agree with you on anything at all is the enemy.  that's why you're at the margins.  don't you want to come in from the cold?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 07:16:10 AM
what julie say is that evidence in favor of evolution overwhelming.

thus, anyone who say not believe in evolution = intellectual dipshit.

one can acknowledge the former without transforming it into a belief, can one not?

jules, you're all about absolutes. and anyone who doesn't agree with you on anything at all is the enemy. that's why you're at the margins. don't you want to come in from the cold?

julie quite warm and toasty by fire, anna nicole.  but you want play?  ok, let's play.

if creationism eliminated, then how did life in all of its diversity get here?  did all present and extinct species just pop up one day--but oops, that'd be creationism.

explain this if you can.  julie will be all on edge until julie hear from you.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 07:17:57 AM
what julie say is that evidence in favor of evolution overwhelming.

thus, anyone who say not believe in evolution = intellectual dipshit.

one can acknowledge the former without transforming it into a belief, can one not?

jules, you're all about absolutes. and anyone who doesn't agree with you on anything at all is the enemy. that's why you're at the margins. don't you want to come in from the cold?

julie quite warm and toasty by fire, anna nicole.  but you want play?  ok, let's play.

if creationism eliminated, then how did life in all of its diversity get here?  did all present and extinct species just pop up one day--but oops, that'd be creationism.

explain this if you can.  julie will be all on edge until julie hear from you.

oh you actually want to debate?  this is new.

first let's check your assumptions.

you assume that not believing in evolution = believing evolution untrue, etc.

by assuming this, you're missing the point entirely.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 07:21:45 AM
what julie say is that evidence in favor of evolution overwhelming.

thus, anyone who say not believe in evolution = intellectual dipshit.

one can acknowledge the former without transforming it into a belief, can one not?

jules, you're all about absolutes. and anyone who doesn't agree with you on anything at all is the enemy. that's why you're at the margins. don't you want to come in from the cold?

julie quite warm and toasty by fire, anna nicole. but you want play? ok, let's play.

if creationism eliminated, then how did life in all of its diversity get here? did all present and extinct species just pop up one day--but oops, that'd be creationism.

explain this if you can. julie will be all on edge until julie hear from you.

oh you actually want to debate? this is new.

first let's check your assumptions.

you assume that not believing in evolution = believing evolution untrue, etc.

by assuming this, you're missing the point entirely.

you get one more chance deserve julie's participation in this.  julie assume nothing, and your rhetorical tricks at perhaps fourth-grade level. 

question simple:  if evolution not explain current diversity of species, then what do? 
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 07:26:02 AM
what julie say is that evidence in favor of evolution overwhelming.

thus, anyone who say not believe in evolution = intellectual dipshit.

one can acknowledge the former without transforming it into a belief, can one not?

jules, you're all about absolutes. and anyone who doesn't agree with you on anything at all is the enemy. that's why you're at the margins. don't you want to come in from the cold?

julie quite warm and toasty by fire, anna nicole. but you want play? ok, let's play.

if creationism eliminated, then how did life in all of its diversity get here? did all present and extinct species just pop up one day--but oops, that'd be creationism.

explain this if you can. julie will be all on edge until julie hear from you.

oh you actually want to debate? this is new.

first let's check your assumptions.

you assume that not believing in evolution = believing evolution untrue, etc.

by assuming this, you're missing the point entirely.

you get one more chance deserve julie's participation in this.  julie assume nothing, and your rhetorical tricks at perhaps fourth-grade level. 

question simple:  if evolution not explain current diversity of species, then what do? 

you're still missing the point.  this is NOT about evolution.  :D

okay, let's take this slow.  ready?

do you believe in the theory of relativity (special, general, whatever)? 

i'm guessing probably.

would you get into a culture war over it with someone who DOESN'T believe in it?

of course not.

why? 

because there's no practical importance in believing it or not.

same with evolution: there's no practical importance in whether you believe in it or not. 

you say truth always important?  then why the double standard?

the real problem is that the debate over evolution is symbolic over a larger culture war.  but in itself, it is phenomenally unimportant whether one believes in it or not.  understanding how it works?  probably more important.  but BELIEF irrelevant.

that's a slow and step by step explanation of my point here.

i don't expect you to acknowledge it because, like bush, you're too convinced of your own rightness to listen to others.

that's okay, i still like you. 
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 07:32:53 AM
what julie say is that evidence in favor of evolution overwhelming.

thus, anyone who say not believe in evolution = intellectual dipshit.

one can acknowledge the former without transforming it into a belief, can one not?

jules, you're all about absolutes. and anyone who doesn't agree with you on anything at all is the enemy. that's why you're at the margins. don't you want to come in from the cold?

julie quite warm and toasty by fire, anna nicole. but you want play? ok, let's play.

if creationism eliminated, then how did life in all of its diversity get here? did all present and extinct species just pop up one day--but oops, that'd be creationism.

explain this if you can. julie will be all on edge until julie hear from you.

oh you actually want to debate? this is new.

first let's check your assumptions.

you assume that not believing in evolution = believing evolution untrue, etc.

by assuming this, you're missing the point entirely.

you get one more chance deserve julie's participation in this. julie assume nothing, and your rhetorical tricks at perhaps fourth-grade level.

question simple: if evolution not explain current diversity of species, then what do?

you're still missing the point. this is NOT about evolution. :D

okay, let's take this slow. ready?

do you believe in the theory of relativity (special, general, whatever)?

i'm guessing probably.

would you get into a culture war over it with someone who DOESN'T believe in it?

of course not.

why?

because there's no practical importance in believing it or not.

same with evolution: there's no practical importance in whether you believe in it or not.

you say truth always important? then why the double standard?

the real problem is that the debate over evolution is symbolic over a larger culture war. but in itself, it is phenomenally unimportant whether one believes in it or not. understanding how it works? probably more important. but BELIEF irrelevant.

that's a slow and step by step explanation of my point here.

i don't expect you to acknowledge it because, like bush, you're too convinced of your own rightness to listen to others.

that's okay, i still like you.

what surprise:  you have zero answer.

game over.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 07:35:11 AM
what julie say is that evidence in favor of evolution overwhelming.

thus, anyone who say not believe in evolution = intellectual dipshit.

one can acknowledge the former without transforming it into a belief, can one not?

jules, you're all about absolutes. and anyone who doesn't agree with you on anything at all is the enemy. that's why you're at the margins. don't you want to come in from the cold?

julie quite warm and toasty by fire, anna nicole. but you want play? ok, let's play.

if creationism eliminated, then how did life in all of its diversity get here? did all present and extinct species just pop up one day--but oops, that'd be creationism.

explain this if you can. julie will be all on edge until julie hear from you.

oh you actually want to debate? this is new.

first let's check your assumptions.

you assume that not believing in evolution = believing evolution untrue, etc.

by assuming this, you're missing the point entirely.

you get one more chance deserve julie's participation in this. julie assume nothing, and your rhetorical tricks at perhaps fourth-grade level.

question simple: if evolution not explain current diversity of species, then what do?

you're still missing the point. this is NOT about evolution. :D

okay, let's take this slow. ready?

do you believe in the theory of relativity (special, general, whatever)?

i'm guessing probably.

would you get into a culture war over it with someone who DOESN'T believe in it?

of course not.

why?

because there's no practical importance in believing it or not.

same with evolution: there's no practical importance in whether you believe in it or not.

you say truth always important? then why the double standard?

the real problem is that the debate over evolution is symbolic over a larger culture war. but in itself, it is phenomenally unimportant whether one believes in it or not. understanding how it works? probably more important. but BELIEF irrelevant.

that's a slow and step by step explanation of my point here.

i don't expect you to acknowledge it because, like bush, you're too convinced of your own rightness to listen to others.

that's okay, i still like you.

what surprise:  you have zero answer.

game over.

in typical jules fashion, you declare "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" and go home.

it's sad to be able to recognize other people's flaws but unwilling to recognize them in yourself.

in time, people will look back at the dogmatic faith in evolution, etc. in the same way we look back at greek myths.

like every generation, this one makes the mistake of believing it's arrived at the END of the search for knowledge.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 07:39:24 AM
your game very, very weak.  julie saying evolution strike her as entirely logical explanation for something, supported by considerable evidence, that not otherwise explainable unless you believe in creationism, for which evidence virtually nonexistent.

julie has made judgment.  if you insist twisting that into dogma, have at it.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 07:46:24 AM
julie saying evolution strike her as entirely logical explanation for something, supported by considerable evidence, that not otherwise explainable unless you believe in creationism, for which evidence virtually nonexistent.

who's arguing with this?  this much is plain and simple. 

you're so hung up on your own point that you don't recognize that it's not even being contended.

what i'm saying is, you can accept that something is the most logical explanation and not have that descend into "belief".

can't see that distinction, can you?  no, probably not.  and even if you could you've already made it a point to frame this as jules v. other guy, so you can't concede.

see how dangerous it is to declare enemies?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 07:53:02 AM
julie saying evolution strike her as entirely logical explanation for something, supported by considerable evidence, that not otherwise explainable unless you believe in creationism, for which evidence virtually nonexistent.

who's arguing with this? this much is plain and simple.

you're so hung up on your own point that you don't recognize that it's not even being contended.

what i'm saying is, you can accept that something is the most logical explanation and not have that descend into "belief".

can't see that distinction, can you? no, probably not. and even if you could you've already made it a point to frame this as jules v. other guy, so you can't concede.

see how dangerous it is to declare enemies?

this like talking to drunk.

julie not declare enemy, so call out bull.

now clean off your shoes before come in house.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 07:57:55 AM
julie saying evolution strike her as entirely logical explanation for something, supported by considerable evidence, that not otherwise explainable unless you believe in creationism, for which evidence virtually nonexistent.

who's arguing with this? this much is plain and simple.

you're so hung up on your own point that you don't recognize that it's not even being contended.

what i'm saying is, you can accept that something is the most logical explanation and not have that descend into "belief".

can't see that distinction, can you? no, probably not. and even if you could you've already made it a point to frame this as jules v. other guy, so you can't concede.

see how dangerous it is to declare enemies?

this like talking to drunk.

julie not declare enemy, so call out bull.

now clean off your shoes before come in house.

let's reach a compromise position, ready?  ready?

we accept the following:

1. evolution by natural selection is at this point the most logical explanation for life as we know it, and is supported by a large amount of empirical evidence.

2. at one point, the sun revolving around the earth seemed the most logical explanation for the empirical evidence that was available at the time.  keeping this in mind, we will hold that evolution is the best explanation we have now, but will leave open the possibility that future evidence might require us to come up with a new explanation that better fits the data. 

happy?  empiricism wins, dogma loses.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 08:14:55 AM
dogma always was your thing, not julie's.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 08:16:53 AM
dogma always was your thing, not julie's.

this is probably the closest i'll ever get you to agree on anything.  :D

the shame of it is that you and i agree on so much.  but we'll never actually be on the same side of anything. 

oh well, what can you do?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 08:19:37 AM
only problem here that you twist words and try be too clever by half.

and it not working.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 08:21:00 AM
only problem here that you twist words and try be too clever by half.

and it not working.

what are you now, a textualist or something?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 08:23:10 AM
no, just straightforward.

you should quit while you behind.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 08:24:58 AM
no, just straightforward.

you should quit while you behind.

yes, that's how the strict textualists think of themselves.

and bushies like to declare victory.

jules you look more republican than i remember.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 08:34:42 AM
how that alzheimer's going?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 16, 2007, 08:35:47 AM
how that alzheimer's going?

better since bush approved federal funding for stem cell research back in 2002. 

wait, that didn't happen.  damned alzheimer's.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 10:33:39 AM
damn bush.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 16, 2007, 12:47:24 PM
and you can just forget about clear skin.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: VAINGLORIOUS on April 16, 2007, 12:50:18 PM
how that alzheimer's going?

better since bush approved federal funding for stem cell research back in 2002. 

wait, that didn't happen.  damned alzheimer's.

Am I to take this to mean that you don't support a Cheney/Satan ticket?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: VAINGLORIOUS on April 16, 2007, 01:06:19 PM
Are they more likely to impose a flat tax?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 16, 2007, 01:40:22 PM
What is that even in reference to?
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 16, 2007, 02:15:01 PM
Well, on the plus side, it apparently refers to a book and not a role-playing game. I would still recommend a heavy dose of day-drinking and sunshine. See what that does for you.

Tut tut can it not be both?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Cthulhu_(role-playing_game) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Cthulhu_(role-playing_game))


My humble apologies. I absolutely should have known.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 16, 2007, 08:21:26 PM
Thread out of control.
Alan Shore only read thread for Julie's funnies.

Where Julie go to law school? Julie even in school?

:)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Astro on April 16, 2007, 08:23:00 PM
(http://technomancy.us/images/joelonshark.jpg)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 17, 2007, 06:24:50 AM
Thread out of control.
Alan Shore only read thread for Julie's funnies.

Where Julie go to law school? Julie even in school?

:)

julie prefer be woman of mystery.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Astro on April 18, 2007, 07:11:05 PM
:: clears room ::


Underrated post.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Nimmy on April 22, 2007, 05:24:51 AM
Not gonna start a new thread to get back on topic:

Recent revelations show that the DOJ tossed applications from students automatically if they graduated Summa Cum Laude at Harvard or Yale Law School.  Yes my friends, it is easier to get a prestigious government job comming from Regent, than the top 5% of Harvard.

Does Yale give out honors awards?  Why did this letter mention it?  Thought they didn't grade or rank.

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=262
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 22, 2007, 08:24:52 AM
It's called "politics." Just wait until we get a new president, his/her preference may be students from Boston University or Boalt.

I'd be surprised to learn that the top students at Harvard and Yale would want to make a living for such a meager sum of money anyway.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 22, 2007, 09:40:01 AM
It's called "politics." Just wait until we get a new president, his/her preference may be students from Boston University or Boalt.

I'd be surprised to learn that the top students at Harvard and Yale would want to make a living for such a meager sum of money anyway.

"politics?"  don't make me laugh.  there's nothing "politics" about intentionally not hiring the best and the brightest.  and quite frankly, there are a lot of top students who would give up money for the opportunity to actually do something beneficial for society, and they're not given a chance because the retards* in this administration care more about their agenda than anything else.  quite frankly, these fuckers HATE america and when they get voted out of office it'll be a great day for the country. 

*i shouldn't have used the term "retards" since that's rather insensitive to those who are actually developmentally disabled, and to those who have loved ones who are developmentally disabled.  however, it flows better and if you're genuinely offended, i apologize for taking liberties.

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Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Alan Shore on April 22, 2007, 12:27:30 PM
No, I'm not okay with it regardless of the leanings of the president.
But it's the way it works.
Just like this firing of U.S. Attorneys. It should be a non-story!
They serve at the pleasure of the administration.
I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying it's the way it is.
(Just for the record, I am very much against the current administration.)
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: This is wrong. on April 22, 2007, 12:31:21 PM
(Just for the record, I am very much against the current administration.)

for this i shall be more forgiving.

however, "it's the way it works" isn't a justification for anything.  at one point in our history, angry mobs would get together and lynch black people and that was "the way it worked."  that didn't make it right.

and as for the US attorneys, it would have been one thing if they just didn't share the president's policies.  i originally didn't think that it was a big deal, since that seemed to be what the administration was saying.  now it looks like the president's "policies" were to use the attorneys to go after political opponents.  that's not valid in any sense of the word.

i'm looking forward to seeing what comes out of the biskupic hearing.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 22, 2007, 12:47:36 PM
The Regent thread is back? Fantastic news for all parties involved.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Julie Fern on April 22, 2007, 07:25:40 PM
Just like this firing of U.S. Attorneys. It should be a non-story!

even if "story" that they did this to faciliate bogus voter fraud prosecutions of democrats?  and not even democrats deny gump's constitutional power here, but that different issue from exposing his motives, much less lying of government lawyers;  public has right to know.
Title: Re: Regent University Law is the most powereful Law School in America???
Post by: Navygirl on April 27, 2007, 01:02:15 PM
I've been off the boards for about a week or so...can't believe this thread is still kickin'... :D

I just used the link posted on here to watch the Maher bashing of Regent...priceless.  And well worth it. 

I was going to say something about it being sad that Regent is in Virginia...it sucks that the only 2 law schools in my home state that I probably had a chance of going to (not that I applied) was Regent and Liberty.  (I s'pose I had a chance at Richmond, but I didn't apply there either.)  Oh well...I think UVA, W&M, and W&L, not to mention the countless Northern VA schools redeem the state... ;)