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Title: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: dimrod80 on February 06, 2007, 07:23:57 AM
I got the letter yesterday.  Anyone else in this category?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on February 06, 2007, 09:41:56 AM
Me too. Pleasantly surprised considering my lsat is a bit low for them
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 06, 2007, 09:44:20 AM
I'm on hold at Chicago, too.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on February 06, 2007, 09:47:38 AM
Me too.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on February 06, 2007, 10:06:13 AM
Held.

What essays were suggested in your guys' letters?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: dimrod80 on February 06, 2007, 10:11:17 AM
1. obesity, 2. children, 3. book review.

did we all get the same suggestions?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on February 06, 2007, 10:14:22 AM
Yeh, mine was the same.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: StudentUVA on February 06, 2007, 10:39:23 AM
I'm on hold at Chicago, too.
what? are they insane? what's with all the holds this season.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: 617 on February 06, 2007, 10:54:33 AM
Count me in. 

This is turning into a partaaaay.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Reach on February 06, 2007, 11:17:51 AM
Those essay topics sounds very odd...can anyone offer some more information as to what they want you to write about? 

I'm surprised about your hold, Brito...maybe you can direct them to your LSN soft factors?  I bet one look at those would get you in immediately.

Good luck to everyone on hold...it's no fun but I hope it is worth everyone's wait.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: pea27 on February 06, 2007, 11:21:50 AM
when do you think they'll make final decisions on applicants "on hold?"  i hate how this whole application process is dragging on for months...
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: degrassi on February 06, 2007, 11:24:51 AM
I'm on hold too.

Any more info. re: the lettter they sent? Mine was sent to my home address and I was so nauseated by the idea that I asked my mother not to read the whole thing.

(Just curious).
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on February 06, 2007, 11:36:50 AM
I just wonder if this is worth the effort or not.  Does anyone know how many holds go on to be accepted normally?  I figure if they really wanted me they would have accepted me straight out.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: degrassi on February 06, 2007, 11:40:08 AM
I just wonder if this is worth the effort or not.  Does anyone know how many holds go on to be accepted normally?  I figure if they really wanted me they would have accepted me straight out.

I know literally nothing about how many they end up accepting, but I am definitely feeling the same way as you are.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 06, 2007, 11:51:16 AM
I'm on hold at Chicago, too.
what? are they insane? what's with all the holds this season.

It brightens my heart just a little each time someone is surprised about my hold.  :)
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: 617 on February 06, 2007, 12:13:16 PM
when do you think they'll make final decisions on applicants "on hold?"  i hate how this whole application process is dragging on for months...

The fact that the hold letter explicitly requires that additional materials be received by February 19th would seem to indicate that they are planning to begin re-reviewing held applicants around that time.  Perhaps that's when we should expect to start seeing some decisions trickling in on held applicants?  Oh who knows.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: StudentUVA on February 06, 2007, 12:26:31 PM
I'm scared to check the mail.  ???
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on February 06, 2007, 12:42:26 PM
when do you think they'll make final decisions on applicants "on hold?"  i hate how this whole application process is dragging on for months...

The fact that the hold letter explicitly requires that additional materials be received by February 19th would seem to indicate that they are planning to begin re-reviewing held applicants around that time.  Perhaps that's when we should expect to start seeing some decisions trickling in on held applicants?  Oh who knows.

Mine's a different date.  I think it's just a month after the date of your hold letter.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on February 06, 2007, 01:05:23 PM
Yeah mine is dated for March 2nd.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: dimrod80 on February 06, 2007, 01:41:26 PM
mine is March 2 as well.  So i guess that means the Hold's get re-reviewed about a month later (not all at once). 

This seems like a deferral more than anything.  I'm taking it as a positive sign.  Something about our applications made them choose not to outright reject us.  I also like that they propose essay topics instead of requesting the generic "diversity statement" or "Why I want to attend Chicago" essay.  It probably helps them sift through those really interested and willing to make the effort of writing an additional essay with those who have generic essays already on hand.  Anyway it's good the know the calibar of people with me in the "Hold" category, good luck to everyone!
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: pea27 on February 06, 2007, 03:49:26 PM
ah ok, this makes me feel a bit better.  i was imagining i probably wouldn't hear from them until late may or some date like that.  hopefully not, i'd like to know what my options are before i graduate from undergrad!  and apparently a hold is a "good" sign (as good as not getting in can be).  supposedly admissions is known to mostly outright reject or accept -- they only hold people they are still interested in.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: LSAT Granddad on February 06, 2007, 03:54:36 PM
Hum, I dreamed of a phone call from Chicago last night :-[. It is all because of a mysterious UNKNOWN NUMBER that I missed last night at 8:00. Darn, I hope it was not from a evil sales person ;D, but actually from a admission office. Hope I can get a call again tonight and do not miss it.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on February 06, 2007, 07:32:45 PM
ah ok, this makes me feel a bit better.  i was imagining i probably wouldn't hear from them until late may or some date like that.  hopefully not, i'd like to know what my options are before i graduate from undergrad!  and apparently a hold is a "good" sign (as good as not getting in can be).  supposedly admissions is known to mostly outright reject or accept -- they only hold people they are still interested in.
admissions in general or chicago specifically?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: johnromero on February 06, 2007, 08:33:59 PM
I think I'll do a book review.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on February 07, 2007, 06:05:17 AM
I think I'll do a book review.

The trans-fat essay is the most preftigious.  Who has one of them at hand?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: pea27 on February 07, 2007, 06:34:14 AM
admissions in general or chicago specifically?
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my information is for chicago only...i know an alum who did some research on what it means to be "on hold" through his alumni network.  he says they seriously consider (although obviously don't sometimes admit) applicants on hold.  so basically, it's a bit better than waitlist.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on February 07, 2007, 06:37:39 AM
1. obesity, 2. children, 3. book review.

did we all get the same suggestions?

Can you review a book about childhood obesity?  Three for the price of one!
Only if it was a recent best-seller. (!)  The "children" essay is actually about whether you think parents ought to be liable for childrens' actions.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: dimrod80 on February 07, 2007, 11:19:17 AM
I think I'll do a book review.

The trans-fat essay is the most preftigious.  Who has one of them at hand?

What does preftigious mean? 
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on February 07, 2007, 12:12:19 PM
Are most people sending in another LOR? I already sent in 3 and I have no more to send. 
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on February 07, 2007, 12:56:19 PM
I think I'll do a book review.

The trans-fat essay is the most preftigious.  Who has one of them at hand?

What does preftigious mean? 

'Prestigious' with the medial 's.'  Olde>old>>>>new.  Dig?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Boogles04 on February 13, 2007, 08:53:45 PM
Does anyone know if the additional essay can be sent electronically?  Or does it have to be a hard copy?  I'm living in Asia and I'm worried that a hard copy won't be there by the 19th!

Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: LSAT Granddad on February 13, 2007, 08:56:57 PM
Does anyone know if the additional essay can be sent electronically?  Or does it have to be a hard copy?  I'm living in Asia and I'm worried that a hard copy won't be there by the 19th!


Express mail should do.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 16, 2007, 08:53:11 AM
So, I received my "hold" letter about a week ago. This morning I received an email from Chicago inviting me to schedule an interview with someone from the admissions committee. Anybody else get this?

I did, also. 
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: ipso facto on February 16, 2007, 09:24:49 AM
I got the interview email as well. I am definetly going. Did all the holds get the interview email? I got my hold in the first batch of decisions.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 16, 2007, 09:27:13 AM
So, I received my "hold" letter about a week ago. This morning I received an email from Chicago inviting me to schedule an interview with someone from the admissions committee. Anybody else get this?

I did, also. 

So, are you gonna go? I'm not sure I have the time or money to travel to Chicago for an interview.

I don't think I will have the money, since it looks like my mom and I are going to take a minibreak to Boston in March.  I'm still a little torn about how to deal with Chicago, though.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 16, 2007, 09:30:53 AM
So, I received my "hold" letter about a week ago. This morning I received an email from Chicago inviting me to schedule an interview with someone from the admissions committee. Anybody else get this?

I did, also. 

So, are you gonna go? I'm not sure I have the time or money to travel to Chicago for an interview.

I don't think I will have the money, since it looks like my mom and I are going to take a minibreak to Boston in March.  I'm still a little torn about how to deal with Chicago, though.

I'm a little torn as well. While an acceptance from Chicago would be nice, I'm really excited about my other options at this point. I'd rather use my limited funds to visit a school I've already been accepted to, than travel to interview at a place that still may not accept me.

Exactly.  It kind of reminds me of the time this ex of mine tried to get me to come visit him...
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on February 16, 2007, 10:04:39 AM
So, I received my "hold" letter about a week ago. This morning I received an email from Chicago inviting me to schedule an interview with someone from the admissions committee. Anybody else get this?

I did, also. 

So, are you gonna go? I'm not sure I have the time or money to travel to Chicago for an interview.

I don't think I will have the money, since it looks like my mom and I are going to take a minibreak to Boston in March.  I'm still a little torn about how to deal with Chicago, though.

I'm a little torn as well. While an acceptance from Chicago would be nice, I'm really excited about my other options at this point. I'd rather use my limited funds to visit a school I've already been accepted to, than travel to interview at a place that still may not accept me.

To paraphrase MindTheGap's advice from another thread or a while ago:

A request for an interview is Chicago gauging your interest/protecting their yield.  Those who get the requests usually are numbers-qualified to get into others of CCN, or HYS.

I did not get the interview request email.  I was held the same time as Brito, but have -2ish LSAT and -.3ish GPA compared to her.  I take all this to mean that they're pretty sure, if they let me in, that I'll seriously consider going.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: 617 on February 16, 2007, 10:28:25 AM
To paraphrase MindTheGap's advice from another thread or a while ago:

A request for an interview is Chicago gauging your interest/protecting their yield.  Those who get the requests usually are numbers-qualified to get into others of CCN, or HYS.

I did not get the interview request email.  I was held the same time as Brito, but have -2ish LSAT and -.3ish GPA compared to her.  I take all this to mean that they're pretty sure, if they let me in, that I'll seriously consider going.
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I think this might be a good assessment, based on what people have said from past cycles.  I, too, did not get the email this morning and have slightly lower LSAT/GPA numbers. 

Other Chicago holds, did you or did you not get the email?  Are your numbers in line with our entirely unscientific theory?  Let's get some input.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on February 16, 2007, 12:18:34 PM
Did not get the email. I am thinking it is a YP measure cause most of the ppl who got it have other amazing schools under their belt.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: pea27 on February 17, 2007, 06:51:18 AM
I didn't get that email either.  and you all could be right about the interview's purpose.  however, chicago's official stance on the matter is that they hve found things in your application that "make them want to get to know you a little more."  my impression of that is that they just want to see who you are in person, not just on paper.  it may serve as a guage to how well you would fit in at the school, handle the pressure, how well you speak on your feet, etc.

just a thought.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: damouse01 on February 17, 2007, 02:55:32 PM
I didn't get that email either.  and you all could be right about the interview's purpose.  however, chicago's official stance on the matter is that they hve found things in your application that "make them want to get to know you a little more."  my impression of that is that they just want to see who you are in person, not just on paper.  it may serve as a guage to how well you would fit in at the school, handle the pressure, how well you speak on your feet, etc.

just a thought.


I think that's a good thought and certainly a large part of their motivation. But I do not think that is "just" what they want. Why not instead simply ask for a phone call? Or offer applicants the chance to interview with local alumni? Sure, there are disadvantages in both cases (e.g., the former can't verify if you're fugly as hell, and the latter isn't as directly helpful to an admissions committee). But the admissions committee is probably not oblivious to the extra time, energy, and money required to visit Chicago. It isn't far-fetched to think that the more likely one is to take up that extra effort, disregarded their capability to do so, the more they might want to attend Chicago. Most any admissions officer, (at least after a few drinks), will admit that rankings play a noticeable role in decisions, even if it is mainly for the sad reason that rankings play a huge role in applicants' decisions.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: theprofessor on February 17, 2007, 03:16:51 PM
I got the email as well, and I am definitely going to go in for the interview. Anything at this point that can show more commitment is worth doing, in my opinion. It isn't a huge financial burden for me (I can drive there in 4 hours and have friends I can stay with), but I think I'd still do it even it was going to cost me a few hundred dollars. Being that I like Chicago more than the schools I've already been accepted to, it is worth it. If, by chance, I were to get into Harvard or Stanford in the next few weeks, I'd consider cancelling that interview...
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: tigeruppercut on February 17, 2007, 04:49:05 PM
If they ask me to come interview I'm probably out. I don't have any vacation time left at work. Do they do interviews on Sat/Sunday?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 19, 2007, 11:34:54 AM
I'm considering withdrawing from Chicago, and I'm wondering if my fellow holdees in this thread could offer any advice or reasoning to talk me out of it.  I really liked Chicago, but I don't think that I would choose it at this point.  Since I don't think I'd choose it, I don't know that it's worthwhile to languish on the hold list for several more weeks.  Here are my main reasons:

1.  Harvard's LIPP is much better than Chicago's LRAP, by all accounts, so I feel MUCH more comfortable taking on debt to go to Harvard.  This is probably the deciding factor.

2.  As great as Chicago's faculty is, so is Harvard's, so I think it's fair to say that there is no real advantage for either side here.

3.  Aside from personal attraction to the school and the potential that Chicago may be the better "fit," I'm not sure there are any major reasons for choosing Chicago over Harvard.  Even if Chicago were the better fit, I don't think this advantage outweighs the better loan forgiveness opportunities at HLS.  And this is where I'm hoping someone might have some points to bring up that I might be missing.  (For example, is the smaller class size a big advantage?)

I apologize if this post is a little annoying, but if I withdraw from Chicago, I want to make sure it's not a subconscious prestige-whoring move or a silly attempt to get back at Chicago for deferring me.  I guess I also want some confirmation that it isn't a bad idea to abandon my original favorite.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: carthageinruins on February 19, 2007, 11:59:15 AM
I'm considering withdrawing from Chicago, and I'm wondering if my fellow holdees in this thread could offer any advice or reasoning to talk me out of it.  I really liked Chicago, but I don't think that I would choose it at this point.  Since I don't think I'd choose it, I don't know that it's worthwhile to languish on the hold list for several more weeks.  Here are my main reasons:

1.  Harvard's LIPP is much better than Chicago's LRAP, by all accounts, so I feel MUCH more comfortable taking on debt to go to Harvard.  This is probably the deciding factor.

2.  As great as Chicago's faculty is, so is Harvard's, so I think it's fair to say that there is no real advantage for either side here.

3.  Aside from personal attraction to the school and the potential that Chicago may be the better "fit," I'm not sure there are any major reasons for choosing Chicago over Harvard.  Even if Chicago were the better fit, I don't think this advantage outweighs the better loan forgiveness opportunities at HLS.  And this is where I'm hoping someone might have some points to bring up that I might be missing.  (For example, is the smaller class size a big advantage?)

I apologize if this post is a little annoying, but if I withdraw from Chicago, I want to make sure it's not a subconscious prestige-whoring move or a silly attempt to get back at Chicago for deferring me.  I guess I also want some confirmation that it isn't a bad idea to abandon my original favorite.

As much as I love chicago, given the reasons you articulated, I see no real reason for you to stay on the hold list. Good luck either way.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on February 19, 2007, 12:00:01 PM
I'm considering withdrawing from Chicago, and I'm wondering if my fellow holdees in this thread could offer any advice or reasoning to talk me out of it.  I really liked Chicago, but I don't think that I would choose it at this point.  Since I don't think I'd choose it, I don't know that it's worthwhile to languish on the hold list for several more weeks.  Here are my main reasons:

1.  Harvard's LIPP is much better than Chicago's LRAP, by all accounts, so I feel MUCH more comfortable taking on debt to go to Harvard.  This is probably the deciding factor.

2.  As great as Chicago's faculty is, so is Harvard's, so I think it's fair to say that there is no real advantage for either side here.

3.  Aside from personal attraction to the school and the potential that Chicago may be the better "fit," I'm not sure there are any major reasons for choosing Chicago over Harvard.  Even if Chicago were the better fit, I don't think this advantage outweighs the better loan forgiveness opportunities at HLS.  And this is where I'm hoping someone might have some points to bring up that I might be missing.  (For example, is the smaller class size a big advantage?)

I apologize if this post is a little annoying, but if I withdraw from Chicago, I want to make sure it's not a subconscious prestige-whoring move or a silly attempt to get back at Chicago for deferring me.  I guess I also want some confirmation that it isn't a bad idea to abandon my original favorite.

As much as I love chicago, given the reasons you articulated, I see no real reason for you to stay on the hold list. Good luck either way.

titcr...good luck Brito!
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 19, 2007, 12:20:58 PM
Thanks, carthage and MCB!  I would have chosen Chicago with $ over Harvard, probably, but I guess I might be in that awkward position in which I'm good enough to cause yield concerns, but not good enough to be worth buying.  Which doesn't offend me.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 19, 2007, 12:50:26 PM
As someone who is drooling over the spot that you are likely to be offered, I would love it if you withdrew ;).  But in all honesty, I think if you are interested in academics or in clerking, you should at least tough it out in the "hold"ing cell with the rest of us.  You have nothing to loose except for a few handfuls of hair.  You at least owe it to yourself to wait and see if you can get a few dollars out of them.  Unless you want to do biglaw work directly out of school (which I'm doubting from your interest in the LRAP and LIPP), then Chicago might be a better match for you and worth the inconvenience of having to wait (imagine the world's tiniest violin playing just for you when I say that last part).


I'm thinking money is out of the question with Chicago now, though, and I have my doubts about whether Chicago has a significant advantage over HLS for academia or clerkships.  And if there are slightly better opportunities in these areas for Chicago, I think they would be offset by HLS's LIPP, which would allow me to pursue those avenues more freely. 

I probably will do biglaw work, but my main concern is to keep my options open as much as possible.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 19, 2007, 01:05:37 PM
I would suggest a letter to Chicago that goes something like:

Dear Chicago

I got into Harvard.  I know you "held" me, but I'm calling your bluff.  Let me in, give me some money, and I will come to your school and tell Harvard to take its crimson earmuffs and stuff them. 

~Brito
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 19, 2007, 01:06:46 PM
I would suggest a letter to Chicago that goes something like:

Dear Chicago

I got into Harvard.  I know you "held" me, but I'm calling your bluff.  Let me in, give me some money, and I will come to your school and tell Harvard to take its crimson earmuffs and stuff them. 

~Brito

Haha!  Well, I have nothing to lose.   :P
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: elidad on February 19, 2007, 02:21:38 PM
My daughter is your reverse.  In at Chicago and on hold at Harvard.  I'll pay you $5,000 to trade places with her.  No.  I didn't think you would do it.  Harvard.  Harvard.  Harvard --- as grateful and appreciative as I am to Chicago for having the good judgment to accept her right off the bat.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: StudentUVA on February 19, 2007, 03:51:52 PM
I'm considering withdrawing from Chicago, and I'm wondering if my fellow holdees in this thread could offer any advice or reasoning to talk me out of it.  I really liked Chicago, but I don't think that I would choose it at this point.  Since I don't think I'd choose it, I don't know that it's worthwhile to languish on the hold list for several more weeks.  Here are my main reasons:

1.  Harvard's LIPP is much better than Chicago's LRAP, by all accounts, so I feel MUCH more comfortable taking on debt to go to Harvard.  This is probably the deciding factor.

2.  As great as Chicago's faculty is, so is Harvard's, so I think it's fair to say that there is no real advantage for either side here.

3.  Aside from personal attraction to the school and the potential that Chicago may be the better "fit," I'm not sure there are any major reasons for choosing Chicago over Harvard.  Even if Chicago were the better fit, I don't think this advantage outweighs the better loan forgiveness opportunities at HLS.  And this is where I'm hoping someone might have some points to bring up that I might be missing.  (For example, is the smaller class size a big advantage?)

I apologize if this post is a little annoying, but if I withdraw from Chicago, I want to make sure it's not a subconscious prestige-whoring move or a silly attempt to get back at Chicago for deferring me.  I guess I also want some confirmation that it isn't a bad idea to abandon my original favorite.
You should withdraw because i think just about anyone would pick Harvard over Chicago.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 19, 2007, 04:06:21 PM
I'm considering withdrawing from Chicago, and I'm wondering if my fellow holdees in this thread could offer any advice or reasoning to talk me out of it.  I really liked Chicago, but I don't think that I would choose it at this point.  Since I don't think I'd choose it, I don't know that it's worthwhile to languish on the hold list for several more weeks.  Here are my main reasons:

1.  Harvard's LIPP is much better than Chicago's LRAP, by all accounts, so I feel MUCH more comfortable taking on debt to go to Harvard.  This is probably the deciding factor.

2.  As great as Chicago's faculty is, so is Harvard's, so I think it's fair to say that there is no real advantage for either side here.

3.  Aside from personal attraction to the school and the potential that Chicago may be the better "fit," I'm not sure there are any major reasons for choosing Chicago over Harvard.  Even if Chicago were the better fit, I don't think this advantage outweighs the better loan forgiveness opportunities at HLS.  And this is where I'm hoping someone might have some points to bring up that I might be missing.  (For example, is the smaller class size a big advantage?)

I apologize if this post is a little annoying, but if I withdraw from Chicago, I want to make sure it's not a subconscious prestige-whoring move or a silly attempt to get back at Chicago for deferring me.  I guess I also want some confirmation that it isn't a bad idea to abandon my original favorite.

You should withdraw because i think just about anyone would pick Harvard over Chicago.

Well, I wouldn't if I felt Chicago would match up with my goals better than Harvard, which is why I'm asking the question.  I don't think it will, but I want to see if anyone can convince me otherwise.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Stuart on February 19, 2007, 07:38:46 PM
I'm considering withdrawing from Chicago, and I'm wondering if my fellow holdees in this thread could offer any advice or reasoning to talk me out of it.  I really liked Chicago, but I don't think that I would choose it at this point.  Since I don't think I'd choose it, I don't know that it's worthwhile to languish on the hold list for several more weeks.  Here are my main reasons:

1.  Harvard's LIPP is much better than Chicago's LRAP, by all accounts, so I feel MUCH more comfortable taking on debt to go to Harvard.  This is probably the deciding factor.

2.  As great as Chicago's faculty is, so is Harvard's, so I think it's fair to say that there is no real advantage for either side here.

3.  Aside from personal attraction to the school and the potential that Chicago may be the better "fit," I'm not sure there are any major reasons for choosing Chicago over Harvard.  Even if Chicago were the better fit, I don't think this advantage outweighs the better loan forgiveness opportunities at HLS.  And this is where I'm hoping someone might have some points to bring up that I might be missing.  (For example, is the smaller class size a big advantage?)

I apologize if this post is a little annoying, but if I withdraw from Chicago, I want to make sure it's not a subconscious prestige-whoring move or a silly attempt to get back at Chicago for deferring me.  I guess I also want some confirmation that it isn't a bad idea to abandon my original favorite.

You should withdraw because i think just about anyone would pick Harvard over Chicago.

Well, I wouldn't if I felt Chicago would match up with my goals better than Harvard, which is why I'm asking the question.  I don't think it will, but I want to see if anyone can convince me otherwise.

Why not hang around -- what do you lose? You're not taking anybody's spot right now. If they offer you money, then a nice surprise. You have a fun decision. If they take you without money, withdraw immediately. If they don't take you, who cares? You have Harvard.

I guess it seems to me like you have a possible small advantage to staying, and no advantage to withdrawing. Even if you're trying to be unselfish. Chicago with money, after all, could compete with Harvard's LRAP.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 19, 2007, 08:15:37 PM
I'm considering withdrawing from Chicago, and I'm wondering if my fellow holdees in this thread could offer any advice or reasoning to talk me out of it.  I really liked Chicago, but I don't think that I would choose it at this point.  Since I don't think I'd choose it, I don't know that it's worthwhile to languish on the hold list for several more weeks.  Here are my main reasons:

1.  Harvard's LIPP is much better than Chicago's LRAP, by all accounts, so I feel MUCH more comfortable taking on debt to go to Harvard.  This is probably the deciding factor.

2.  As great as Chicago's faculty is, so is Harvard's, so I think it's fair to say that there is no real advantage for either side here.

3.  Aside from personal attraction to the school and the potential that Chicago may be the better "fit," I'm not sure there are any major reasons for choosing Chicago over Harvard.  Even if Chicago were the better fit, I don't think this advantage outweighs the better loan forgiveness opportunities at HLS.  And this is where I'm hoping someone might have some points to bring up that I might be missing.  (For example, is the smaller class size a big advantage?)

I apologize if this post is a little annoying, but if I withdraw from Chicago, I want to make sure it's not a subconscious prestige-whoring move or a silly attempt to get back at Chicago for deferring me.  I guess I also want some confirmation that it isn't a bad idea to abandon my original favorite.

You should withdraw because i think just about anyone would pick Harvard over Chicago.

Well, I wouldn't if I felt Chicago would match up with my goals better than Harvard, which is why I'm asking the question.  I don't think it will, but I want to see if anyone can convince me otherwise.

Why not hang around -- what do you lose? You're not taking anybody's spot right now. If they offer you money, then a nice surprise. You have a fun decision. If they take you without money, withdraw immediately. If they don't take you, who cares? You have Harvard.

I guess it seems to me like you have a possible small advantage to staying, and no advantage to withdrawing. Even if you're trying to be unselfish. Chicago with money, after all, could compete with Harvard's LRAP.

Well, yes, but that still leaves open the question of whether to write the additional essays, etc.  And I'd still like some info on whether money is remotely possible at this point.  Has anyone ever been held and then gotten scholarship money?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 19, 2007, 08:19:17 PM
Why don't you just write the essays?  It wouldn't take that long, and it would give you the Chicago ($) vs. Harvard option, which is quite prestigious. 
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 19, 2007, 08:22:07 PM
Well, yes, but that still leaves open the question of whether to write the additional essays, etc.  And I'd still like some info on whether money is remotely possible at this point.  Has anyone ever been held and then gotten scholarship money?

Write the damn essay.  You only have another week to finish it.   >:(

Yeah, yeah.  You're right.  I'm just being lazy.  Damn.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 19, 2007, 08:23:10 PM
Well, yes, but that still leaves open the question of whether to write the additional essays, etc.  And I'd still like some info on whether money is remotely possible at this point.  Has anyone ever been held and then gotten scholarship money?

Write the damn essay.  You only have another week to finish it.   >:(

Yeah, yeah.  You're right.  I'm just being lazy.  Damn.

Or maybe you know that even if you got $ from Chicago you would go to Harvard. 
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 19, 2007, 08:26:13 PM
Well, yes, but that still leaves open the question of whether to write the additional essays, etc.  And I'd still like some info on whether money is remotely possible at this point.  Has anyone ever been held and then gotten scholarship money?

Write the damn essay.  You only have another week to finish it.   >:(

Yeah, yeah.  You're right.  I'm just being lazy.  Damn.

Or maybe you know that even if you got $ from Chicago you would go to Harvard. 

 :-[

And there's the real dilemma.  I'm afraid I really am a prestige whore.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 19, 2007, 08:27:47 PM
Well, yes, but that still leaves open the question of whether to write the additional essays, etc.  And I'd still like some info on whether money is remotely possible at this point.  Has anyone ever been held and then gotten scholarship money?

Write the damn essay.  You only have another week to finish it.   >:(

Yeah, yeah.  You're right.  I'm just being lazy.  Damn.

Or maybe you know that even if you got $ from Chicago you would go to Harvard. 

 :-[

And there's the real dilemma.  I'm afraid I really am a prestige whore.

That's kind of what I think, but that's not a bad thing.  You can hang out with me and CitySlick (if I get in :-\). 
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 19, 2007, 08:28:48 PM
Well, yes, but that still leaves open the question of whether to write the additional essays, etc.  And I'd still like some info on whether money is remotely possible at this point.  Has anyone ever been held and then gotten scholarship money?

Write the damn essay.  You only have another week to finish it.   >:(

Yeah, yeah.  You're right.  I'm just being lazy.  Damn.

Or maybe you know that even if you got $ from Chicago you would go to Harvard. 

 :-[

And there's the real dilemma.  I'm afraid I really am a prestige whore.

That's kind of what I think, but that's not a bad thing.  You can hang out with me and CitySlick (if I get in :-\). 

Well, I have my reasons, and they aren't really prestige whoring, but I can't really explain them, either.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Stuart on February 19, 2007, 08:40:32 PM
I'm considering withdrawing from Chicago, and I'm wondering if my fellow holdees in this thread could offer any advice or reasoning to talk me out of it.  I really liked Chicago, but I don't think that I would choose it at this point.  Since I don't think I'd choose it, I don't know that it's worthwhile to languish on the hold list for several more weeks.  Here are my main reasons:

1.  Harvard's LIPP is much better than Chicago's LRAP, by all accounts, so I feel MUCH more comfortable taking on debt to go to Harvard.  This is probably the deciding factor.

2.  As great as Chicago's faculty is, so is Harvard's, so I think it's fair to say that there is no real advantage for either side here.

3.  Aside from personal attraction to the school and the potential that Chicago may be the better "fit," I'm not sure there are any major reasons for choosing Chicago over Harvard.  Even if Chicago were the better fit, I don't think this advantage outweighs the better loan forgiveness opportunities at HLS.  And this is where I'm hoping someone might have some points to bring up that I might be missing.  (For example, is the smaller class size a big advantage?)

I apologize if this post is a little annoying, but if I withdraw from Chicago, I want to make sure it's not a subconscious prestige-whoring move or a silly attempt to get back at Chicago for deferring me.  I guess I also want some confirmation that it isn't a bad idea to abandon my original favorite.

You should withdraw because i think just about anyone would pick Harvard over Chicago.

Well, I wouldn't if I felt Chicago would match up with my goals better than Harvard, which is why I'm asking the question.  I don't think it will, but I want to see if anyone can convince me otherwise.

Why not hang around -- what do you lose? You're not taking anybody's spot right now. If they offer you money, then a nice surprise. You have a fun decision. If they take you without money, withdraw immediately. If they don't take you, who cares? You have Harvard.

I guess it seems to me like you have a possible small advantage to staying, and no advantage to withdrawing. Even if you're trying to be unselfish. Chicago with money, after all, could compete with Harvard's LRAP.

Well, yes, but that still leaves open the question of whether to write the additional essays, etc.  And I'd still like some info on whether money is remotely possible at this point.  Has anyone ever been held and then gotten scholarship money?

(1) Write the essays.

(2) And even if you don't, you still have nothing to lose. First time for everything. They may realize how stupid they have been. I'm not getting the hurry to withdraw.

Not that that means you shouldn't. But I'm just not getting it.  ???
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 19, 2007, 08:46:32 PM
I'm considering withdrawing from Chicago, and I'm wondering if my fellow holdees in this thread could offer any advice or reasoning to talk me out of it.  I really liked Chicago, but I don't think that I would choose it at this point.  Since I don't think I'd choose it, I don't know that it's worthwhile to languish on the hold list for several more weeks.  Here are my main reasons:

1.  Harvard's LIPP is much better than Chicago's LRAP, by all accounts, so I feel MUCH more comfortable taking on debt to go to Harvard.  This is probably the deciding factor.

2.  As great as Chicago's faculty is, so is Harvard's, so I think it's fair to say that there is no real advantage for either side here.

3.  Aside from personal attraction to the school and the potential that Chicago may be the better "fit," I'm not sure there are any major reasons for choosing Chicago over Harvard.  Even if Chicago were the better fit, I don't think this advantage outweighs the better loan forgiveness opportunities at HLS.  And this is where I'm hoping someone might have some points to bring up that I might be missing.  (For example, is the smaller class size a big advantage?)

I apologize if this post is a little annoying, but if I withdraw from Chicago, I want to make sure it's not a subconscious prestige-whoring move or a silly attempt to get back at Chicago for deferring me.  I guess I also want some confirmation that it isn't a bad idea to abandon my original favorite.

Okay, you requested input, so I'm giving you input:

1. What are your career goals? Are you going to want to do anything that qualifies you for LRAP? Also, there was some conversation about whether you'll be eligible for money after getting in off the hold. I have a friend who got in off a hold and then got a substantial scholarship (something in the vicinity of half tuition). These holds are very often YPs, and if you indicate interest in the school, they will give money to lure you there.

2. You won't hear me dispute that Harvard has a prestigious faculty. There are a few other considerations. a) Are Harvard's faculty as accessible as Chicago's? b) Are Harvard's faculty, regardless of their prestige, as good of classroom professor's as Chicago's? c) Are Harvard's faculty well-known for things you are interested in compared to Chicago's? I'm not saying any of those questions necessarily cuts against Harvard, the answers might be yes, yes, yes. But these are the questions that you should be asking in order to help you make the decision.

3. There's a lot of stuff that could be covered here (do you value more conservative/libertarian politics? do you like having a car? is having a big apartment a big factor in quality of life?), and I absolutely can't list them all. But the main thing that stood out to me is that the Harvard students and alums I worked with last summer seemed to all hate their school. Now, maybe I just got an unlucky set of 3 or 4 students/alums, and certainly the HLS folks on LSD seem to like it okay. But for me, I would definitely investigate pretty thoroughly.

Some final thoughts not directly responsive to what you have already posted:

I don't see the other schools you've been admitted to as in the same league as HLS. I know you like Virgina a lot, and it is certainly a school you should consider, but on your list Chicago is the one closest to HLS in terms of prestige, placement, etc. If you withdraw from Chicago now, what happens if you dislike HLS when you visit? You'll have a pretty difficult choice between a school you dislike that offers you as many opportunities as you want, and a school you like that offers a lot fewer opportunities. I see Chicago, CLS, and NYU as a nice middle ground between those options. You've already withdrawn from CLS and NYU, so that leaves Chicago as sort of a sole middle ground school. If you end up not liking HLS (and liking Chicago), you could comfortably choose Chicago knowing that you aren't really giving up that much in opportunities down the line.

More broadly, my mental approach going into the law school process (and the one I'll advise you to take as well) is that you owe it to yourself to give you as many options as possible. It seems silly after working hard to get a perfect GPA through undergrad, studying your ass off for the LSAT and getting a good score, putting together a great application, and paying a ton of app fees that you would give up on an original first choice school because they asked for an essay.

I don't see what you gain by withdrawing except a temporary reprieve from writing one essay. What you stand to lose is an option that you may really want to have three months from now. I didn't want to have any regrets about my law school application cycle, and I think in dismissing an option merely because of a deferral, you're creating a pretty big opportunity to have one.

Kind of tough love, I know, but you asked for my two cents so there it is. I'd be saying the same thing if it was CLS or NYU.

Now go write your essay!
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on February 19, 2007, 08:49:36 PM
I don't see the other schools you've been admitted to as in the same league as HLS. I know you like Virgina a lot, and it is certainly a school you should consider, but on your list Chicago is the one closest to HLS in terms of prestige, placement, etc. If you withdraw from Chicago now, what happens if you dislike HLS when you visit?

This is an excellent point.

And thank you very much for your entire post.  I was hoping you'd come forward and talk me out of it, and you have.  :)  I'm particularly glad to hear that people have gotten scholarship money after getting off the hold list.  I didn't think that was very likely, but that's encouraging.  That pretty much changes the scenario.

Actually, I haven't really withdrawn from NYU yet.  I was just planning to do so in the next week or so.

You're so nice and so helpful, MTG!
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 19, 2007, 09:05:00 PM
I don't see the other schools you've been admitted to as in the same league as HLS. I know you like Virgina a lot, and it is certainly a school you should consider, but on your list Chicago is the one closest to HLS in terms of prestige, placement, etc. If you withdraw from Chicago now, what happens if you dislike HLS when you visit?

This is an excellent point.

And thank you very much for your entire post.  I was hoping you'd come forward and talk me out of it, and you have.  :)  I'm particularly glad to hear that people have gotten scholarship money after getting off the hold list.  I didn't think that was very likely, but that's encouraging.  That pretty much changes the scenario.

Actually, I haven't really withdrawn from NYU yet.  I was just planning to do so in the next week or so.

You're so nice and so helpful, MTG!

Oh, and another thing: If you do end up getting into Chicago and LRAP is a concern, I have heard of people asking and getting the $5k/year thing doubled to $10k/year. That makes the Chicago LRAP (especially combined with scholarships) a lot more useful.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: ImpactPlayer on February 20, 2007, 12:07:43 PM
I don't believe my initial job prospects would differ at all between the two schools (I want to work in Texas big law).

Probably not because in Texas, UT trumps all.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on February 20, 2007, 12:10:16 PM
So for people actually on hold (the original purpose of this thread), has anyone sent in their extra essay?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 20, 2007, 12:18:34 PM
I don't believe my initial job prospects would differ at all between the two schools (I want to work in Texas big law).

Probably not because in Texas, UT trumps all.

This is flat-out wrong. Period.

I can't do enough to disabuse people of this incorrect notion.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 20, 2007, 03:25:36 PM
I don't believe my initial job prospects would differ at all between the two schools (I want to work in Texas big law).

Probably not because in Texas, UT trumps all.

This is flat-out wrong. Period.

I can't do enough to disabuse people of this incorrect notion.

The thinking probably goes something like, if you can get a job at V&E or BB from UTLaw, then you are better off than if you got a job at one of those firms from a higher ranked school since there will be more of a good ol' boy network for you to plug into.  I guess it is harder to get one of those jobs from UT though since everyone wants one, while that's not the case at Chicago or Harvard or Columbia, where few people want to go to Texas.   
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: krockband on February 20, 2007, 04:55:06 PM
Nothing wrong w/ being a prestige whore Brito. If Harvard accepted me I would withdraw from all my other schools the very next day and immediately send in my deposit.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 20, 2007, 10:16:27 PM
I came back here to respond to a post that I skipped over earlier, but it seems to be deleted.

Hrmmm...
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: ipso facto on February 22, 2007, 08:46:54 PM
Chicago hold interview-

Is anyone doing an interview?  Does anyone know anything about it?

I scheduled mine yesterday. I really wish I knew what to make of it all, but I don't. I don't know if lots of people are getting interviews or just a few. Shrug.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on February 24, 2007, 12:15:28 AM
I didn't get an interview. It seems like people with higher scores got interviews.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on February 26, 2007, 08:51:17 PM
Does anyone know if we can fax in the extra essay for held students?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 26, 2007, 09:05:29 PM
Does anyone know if we can fax in the extra essay for held students?

My guess is yes. But you can always call admissions and ask.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: keelee on February 27, 2007, 09:03:19 PM
I got placed on hold today at Chicago. Way more than expected. Definitley going to do the essay, am leaning towards the first one as of now, even though it appears to be the most challenging.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: ipso facto on February 27, 2007, 10:27:32 PM
My interview is next week. MTG, any ideas on how long it takes to get a accept/deny/waitlist after an interview?

Also, anyone have any ideas regarding attire for an admissions interview? Suit, business casual, man-thong?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 27, 2007, 11:02:04 PM
My interview is next week. MTG, any ideas on how long it takes to get a accept/deny/waitlist after an interview?

Also, anyone have any ideas regarding attire for an admissions interview? Suit, business casual, man-thong?

I don't think you need a suit. But I would recommend business casual.

And decision after an interview probably just depends. I know one of my friends who got interviewed was told during the interview that he would be WLed, but let off the WL mid-summer.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: dimrod80 on February 28, 2007, 05:39:21 AM
So for people actually on hold (the original purpose of this thread), has anyone sent in their extra essay?

I finally buckled down and wrote an essay last week.  I chose the children liability property damage one.  Anyone else?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: banana on February 28, 2007, 07:57:43 AM
any idea how many people are invited to interview, and how many of those who interview are then accepted?  I'm sure that interviewing generally helps, but do many people who interview then get waitlisted or rejected?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: monserrat on March 01, 2007, 05:21:39 PM
tag, officially on hold. i'm very excited esp after my nyu and cls dings i assumed the thin envelope was another.  MTG, do you have any anecdotal info or stats you could point to re: how many holds get in?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 01, 2007, 05:30:55 PM
tag, officially on hold. i'm very excited esp after my nyu and cls dings i assumed the thin envelope was another.  MTG, do you have any anecdotal info or stats you could point to re: how many holds get in?

I got nada on this subject, except a friend who interviewed and subsequently got in off the WL.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: monserrat on March 01, 2007, 05:41:47 PM
tag, officially on hold. i'm very excited esp after my nyu and cls dings i assumed the thin envelope was another.  MTG, do you have any anecdotal info or stats you could point to re: how many holds get in?

I got nada on this subject, except a friend who interviewed and subsequently got in off the WL.

i figured if you had, it would've been posted...thanks though
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 01, 2007, 05:49:12 PM
tag, officially on hold. i'm very excited esp after my nyu and cls dings i assumed the thin envelope was another.  MTG, do you have any anecdotal info or stats you could point to re: how many holds get in?

I got nada on this subject, except a friend who interviewed and subsequently got in off the WL.

i figured if you had, it would've been posted...thanks though

It's of little consolation, but if you guys keep me informed this year, maybe I'll be able to know something next year.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Dr. Raoul Duke on March 01, 2007, 07:01:42 PM
tag, officially on hold. i'm very excited esp after my nyu and cls dings i assumed the thin envelope was another.  MTG, do you have any anecdotal info or stats you could point to re: how many holds get in?


I got nada on this subject, except a friend who interviewed and subsequently got in off the WL.

i figured if you had, it would've been posted...thanks though

It's of little consolation, but if you guys keep me informed this year, maybe I'll be able to know something next year.

Thanks for the inside info so far man.  Very much appreciated  :)
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 02, 2007, 12:16:34 AM
Hey MTG, what is the computer situation like?  I was reading the website and the impression I got was that both Macs and PCs are fine, but does that mean you're allowed to use your Mac during exams as well?

Chicago is one of the few schools that treats its students like adults. All you have to do is type up your exams in Word and e-mail them in. No special software needed.

That means Macs are completely accepted.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Chandler Bing on March 02, 2007, 12:42:23 AM
Hey MTG, what is the computer situation like?  I was reading the website and the impression I got was that both Macs and PCs are fine, but does that mean you're allowed to use your Mac during exams as well?

Chicago is one of the few schools that treats its students like adults. All you have to do is type up your exams in Word and e-mail them in. No special software needed.

That means Macs are completely accepted.

Yet another reason for loving Chicago. I'm collecting them, there's quite a few so far! :)

Thanks!

Cosigned  ;D
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 03, 2007, 11:31:04 PM
Hey MTG, what is the computer situation like?  I was reading the website and the impression I got was that both Macs and PCs are fine, but does that mean you're allowed to use your Mac during exams as well?

Chicago is one of the few schools that treats its students like adults. All you have to do is type up your exams in Word and e-mail them in. No special software needed.

That means Macs are completely accepted.

Why do other law schools have a special program?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: stjobs on March 03, 2007, 11:43:23 PM
Lack of trust?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Stuart on March 05, 2007, 07:35:36 PM
I was held at Chicago late last week. *sigh* Oh well.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: amaterasu on March 05, 2007, 08:06:53 PM
I was held at Chicago late last week. *sigh* Oh well.

Me too.

I guess it turned out to be a good thing that I didn't buy a UChicago sweatshirt when I visited the campus... (Or, I jinxed myself :-/)
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on March 06, 2007, 06:12:57 AM
I was held at Chicago late last week. *sigh* Oh well.

Me too.

I guess it turned out to be a good thing that I didn't buy a UChicago sweatshirt when I visited the campus... (Or, I jinxed myself :-/)

You were yield-protected, it seems.  If you really want to go, send them a letter saying so.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on March 12, 2007, 09:01:28 AM
Bump.  Still waiting to hear back since being held.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on March 12, 2007, 12:34:17 PM
me too
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: HaHa1942 on March 20, 2007, 11:13:08 AM
I have finally finished the additional essay.
Now, where is that damn hold letter?  :o ??? ???
Anyone has the mailing address that's in the letter?
I guess it's better to address whoever signed that hold letter, what's his/her name?
thanks  ;)
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: keelee on March 28, 2007, 03:53:30 PM
Anyone who was put on hold earlier in February hear back yet? I submitted all the extra stuff they asked for, but I was held in late February so it wasn't due until March 23. I guess I'll hear back in 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Niiice on March 28, 2007, 07:35:14 PM
Does UChicago have a seat deposit deadline? And if so, when is it? I ask b/c I'm on hold but was asked to get my additional stuff in by April 23 so I was hoping Chicago had an April 15 deadline.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on March 28, 2007, 08:49:41 PM
Anyone who was put on hold earlier in February hear back yet? I submitted all the extra stuff they asked for, but I was held in late February so it wasn't due until March 23. I guess I'll hear back in 2-3 weeks.

Held in early Feb, haven't heard a peep.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: AshleyChristina on March 28, 2007, 08:55:16 PM
May 1 Deadline
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on March 28, 2007, 09:02:26 PM
Does UChicago have a seat deposit deadline? And if so, when is it? I ask b/c I'm on hold but was asked to get my additional stuff in by April 23 so I was hoping Chicago had an April 15 deadline.

But the 5/1 deadline isnt a deposit.  They just ask you to submit a form (yes, no, or maybe) and trust that you won't scam them.  I like that.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: swing9this on April 04, 2007, 07:53:30 PM
Just got put on "hold" yesterday. Little late in the cycle to be putting people on hold if you ask me, oh well, gotta keep down those accepted %s...

And by the way, worst. essay. prompts. ever. Good thing I had no intention of going there, lol.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on April 05, 2007, 11:41:16 AM
I would like to hear because I have deadlines other places.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Boogles04 on April 05, 2007, 07:33:08 PM
I was put on hold in early-Feb, did a phone interview in late Feb, and just got an e-mail yesterday admitting me!  There is still hope for all of you!
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Hank Rearden on April 05, 2007, 07:41:29 PM
I was put on hold in early-Feb, did a phone interview in late Feb, and just got an e-mail yesterday admitting me!  There is still hope for all of you!

You going to attend then?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 05, 2007, 07:45:11 PM
yea i was held after the 2/2 admit batch.  got the call today!

going to the asw next week.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: turnitout on April 05, 2007, 08:07:07 PM
those who were admitted today -- did you submit any of the additional information discussed in the hold letter?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: monserrat on April 05, 2007, 08:22:00 PM
yea i was held after the 2/2 admit batch.  got the call today!

going to the asw next week.

congrats b!tch, i wish i was going...i still need to visit. crap.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 05, 2007, 08:28:07 PM
yea i was held after the 2/2 admit batch.  got the call today!

going to the asw next week.

congrats b!tch, i wish i was going...i still need to visit. crap.

thanks heffa! i wish you were going too! i miss your a$$.

those who were admitted today -- did you submit any of the additional information discussed in the hold letter?

yup.  i had already sent 3 lors and i'm out of school so no new grades.  so i sent in the essay about whether parents should be held responsible for willful damage committed by their children.  i was also sent an invite for a personal interview, but i work and couldn't spare the days.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Boogles04 on April 05, 2007, 08:59:10 PM
I did the essay on trans fat and and a phone interview (I'm working abroad so wasn't able to go for an in-person interview). 
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: monserrat on April 05, 2007, 09:01:07 PM
yea i was held after the 2/2 admit batch.  got the call today!

going to the asw next week.

congrats b!tch, i wish i was going...i still need to visit. crap.

thanks heffa! i wish you were going too! i miss your a$$.

those who were admitted today -- did you submit any of the additional information discussed in the hold letter?

yup.  i had already sent 3 lors and i'm out of school so no new grades.  so i sent in the essay about whether parents should be held responsible for willful damage committed by their children.  i was also sent an invite for a personal interview, but i work and couldn't spare the days.

thinking about coming to visit you soon!
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on April 05, 2007, 11:08:22 PM
In at Chicago today by phone.  Deferred 2/2.  No essay.  Add'l LOR and Feb. LSAT.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on April 06, 2007, 12:17:12 PM
Congrats!  What time did you get the call?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 06, 2007, 12:20:48 PM
Congrats!  What time did you get the call?

i got the call at 5:10pm eastern
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on April 07, 2007, 08:31:08 AM
Congrats!  What time did you get the call?

About the same time as MCB.  I'm going to the ASW next weekend, I think.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 07, 2007, 10:58:25 AM
Congrats!  What time did you get the call?

About the same time as MCB.  I'm going to the ASW next weekend, I think.

I am too! I'm glad that I got the call in time for the ASw.  I won't be getting in until Friday though (I work so this was very short notice for the managers).
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on April 07, 2007, 12:02:48 PM
Congrats!  What time did you get the call?

About the same time as MCB.  I'm going to the ASW next weekend, I think.

I am too! I'm glad that I got the call in time for the ASw.  I won't be getting in until Friday though (I work so this was very short notice for the managers).

Yeah, I'm getting a really early flight Friday morning & staying throgh Sunday with friends at Chicago GSB & med school.  I've never even been to the city, so that'll be exciting!
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: lawschoolgirl on April 07, 2007, 09:31:25 PM
To people who've written an essay on parent-children,

should you just write about what your thoughts on the issue is? is this how everyone approached this question?

or do you have to go through all the different rules and statutes and give them an answer?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: krockband on April 08, 2007, 12:44:08 AM
Yeah, I'm getting a really early flight Friday morning & staying throgh Sunday with friends at Chicago GSB & med school.  I've never even been to the city, so that'll be exciting!

Aside from a few flight connections and a hospital visit in Chicago, I've never really been there either. Guess it'll be a first for the both of us.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: well eggy on April 08, 2007, 04:38:28 AM
Yeah, I'm getting a really early flight Friday morning & staying throgh Sunday with friends at Chicago GSB & med school.  I've never even been to the city, so that'll be exciting!

Aside from a few flight connections and a hospital visit in Chicago, I've never really been there either. Guess it'll be a first for the both of us.

I've only heard good things about the city.  The recurring negative is COLD.  Aside from that, it's all been unicorns and gumdrops &cetera.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: krockband on April 08, 2007, 10:33:32 AM
I've only heard good things about the city.  The recurring negative is COLD.  Aside from that, it's all been unicorns and gumdrops &cetera.

Is it colder than New York, or about the same? Anyone care to comment about that?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: keelee on April 08, 2007, 11:03:43 AM
I've only heard good things about the city.  The recurring negative is COLD.  Aside from that, it's all been unicorns and gumdrops &cetera.

Is it colder than New York, or about the same? Anyone care to comment about that?

Yes it is colder than New York. It's not on the coast, there is the lake effect, and it is much winder. Make no mistake: Weather in Chicago absolutley sucks.. I have never lived in a city with more depressing weather. It can feel like -20 degrees in February, it snows too much, I hate fall, and during the summer it can get up to 110 degrees. I seriously don't understand how people tolerate Chicago weather, but I also grew up in southern California and South Florida.

This winter was unusually nice, 50s throughout December and January. And then...BOOM!...it was so cold in February that there were warnings not to go outside because of frostbite. It is April and it flurried on Wednedsay!

To be fair, the weather during September-October and April-May is usually very nice. Though that is only 4 months out of 12. I'm also biased because I hate cold weather, but I don't like hot weather either. Perfect weather to me is 65 degrees.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on April 08, 2007, 11:23:44 AM
I've only heard good things about the city.  The recurring negative is COLD.  Aside from that, it's all been unicorns and gumdrops &cetera.

Is it colder than New York, or about the same? Anyone care to comment about that?

Yes it is colder than New York. It's not on the coast, there is the lake effect, and it is much winder. Make no mistake: Weather in Chicago absolutley sucks.. I have never lived in a city with more depressing weather. It can feel like -20 degrees in February, it snows too much, I hate fall, and during the summer it can get up to 110 degrees. I seriously don't understand how people tolerate Chicago weather, but I also grew up in southern California and South Florida.

This winter was unusually nice, 50s throughout December and January. And then...BOOM!...it was so cold in February that there were warnings not to go outside because of frostbite. It is April and it flurried on Wednedsay!

To be fair, the weather during September-October and April-May is usually very nice. Though that is only 4 months out of 12. I'm also biased because I hate cold weather, but I don't like hot weather either. Perfect weather to me is 65 degrees.

Basically, Fall and Spring quarter are really nice. Winter quarter can suck (last year it was fine, this year it was awful). I think winter was especially bad across the country this year; you may think it is crazy to have flurries in April, but in Texas yesterday it was in the 30s and THUNDERSLEETING! Texas should be in the high 70s/low 80s by this time of year.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Hank Rearden on April 08, 2007, 11:30:37 AM
I blame global warming.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: krockband on April 08, 2007, 01:29:13 PM
Basically, Fall and Spring quarter are really nice. Winter quarter can suck (last year it was fine, this year it was awful). I think winter was especially bad across the country this year; you may think it is crazy to have flurries in April, but in Texas yesterday it was in the 30s and THUNDERSLEETING! Texas should be in the high 70s/low 80s by this time of year.

It's been nice where I'm at recently, with temperatures in the 60s and 70s.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on April 08, 2007, 01:32:30 PM
Basically, Fall and Spring quarter are really nice. Winter quarter can suck (last year it was fine, this year it was awful). I think winter was especially bad across the country this year; you may think it is crazy to have flurries in April, but in Texas yesterday it was in the 30s and THUNDERSLEETING! Texas should be in the high 70s/low 80s by this time of year.

It's been nice where I'm at recently, with temperatures in the 60s and 70s.

You west of the Rockies then? I read somewhere today that everything east of the Rockies is having below-average temperatures.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: krockband on April 08, 2007, 01:43:42 PM
You west of the Rockies then? I read somewhere today that everything east of the Rockies is having below-average temperatures.

Yeah, somewhere out in the Wild West.

*Robs bank*
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: keelee on April 08, 2007, 02:02:22 PM
Basically, Fall and Spring quarter are really nice. Winter quarter can suck (last year it was fine, this year it was awful). I think winter was especially bad across the country this year; you may think it is crazy to have flurries in April, but in Texas yesterday it was in the 30s and THUNDERSLEETING! Texas should be in the high 70s/low 80s by this time of year.

It's been nice where I'm at recently, with temperatures in the 60s and 70s.

You west of the Rockies then? I read somewhere today that everything east of the Rockies is having below-average temperatures.


Yup. It was in the 50s in Miami a few days ago!
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: krockband on April 08, 2007, 04:24:58 PM
Basically, Fall and Spring quarter are really nice. Winter quarter can suck (last year it was fine, this year it was awful). I think winter was especially bad across the country this year; you may think it is crazy to have flurries in April, but in Texas yesterday it was in the 30s and THUNDERSLEETING! Texas should be in the high 70s/low 80s by this time of year.

It's been nice where I'm at recently, with temperatures in the 60s and 70s.

You west of the Rockies then? I read somewhere today that everything east of the Rockies is having below-average temperatures.


Yup. It was in the 50s in Miami a few days ago!

50s isn't bad. I can dig 50s.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on April 11, 2007, 12:04:36 PM
Any more phone calls?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: hmm on April 11, 2007, 12:09:12 PM
Any more phone calls?

I emailed recently to find out about the status of my application. The response I got implied that there probably won't be any more offers until after 5/1.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on April 11, 2007, 03:20:54 PM
I called about my status and they said that the committee is scheduled to decide all those held on 2/2 by this Friday. I sense a rejection coming.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on April 11, 2007, 03:21:58 PM
I called about my status and they said that the committee is scheduled to decide all those held on 2/2 by this Friday. I sense a rejection coming.

Weird that they'd be making decisions during the ASW...
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on April 11, 2007, 08:09:26 PM
I called and didn't sense a rejection.  It was more that they're swamped sorting through all the apps.  I remain hopeful.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: brett83 on April 11, 2007, 09:25:32 PM
I called about my status and they said that the committee is scheduled to decide all those held on 2/2 by this Friday. I sense a rejection coming.

i e-mailed and got the same response...i sense i rejection coming as well...-.- especially more so since i wasn't able to send in any of the additonal essays. argh.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: rewilco on April 12, 2007, 02:05:48 PM
I called about my status and they said that the committee is scheduled to decide all those held on 2/2 by this Friday. I sense a rejection coming.

So, unless they get behind schedule, then no phone call tomorrow = WL or Ding, right?
They wouldn't send out acceptances without calling I assume...
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on April 12, 2007, 03:07:54 PM
Honestly I wouldn't assume that.  The person I talked to said that they are having a really hectic month.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on April 13, 2007, 09:40:38 AM
Well today should be the day according to the phone calls to the admission office.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on April 13, 2007, 09:46:11 AM
Well today should be the day according to the phone calls to the admission office.

I think that is unlikely. I'm sitting around with the admissions office helping them manage ASW. Unless one of them sneaks away to make a few calls, I think you'll have to wait for next week.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on April 13, 2007, 12:28:43 PM
That's what the admissions people told me, but everyone else was saying Friday.  I don't know.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pete Steele on April 16, 2007, 06:54:20 PM
Received my rejection letter today.  Sorry for the bad news but I was in the 2/2 group.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on April 16, 2007, 06:59:59 PM
Received my rejection letter today.  Sorry for the bad news but I was in the 2/2 group.

I got mine today also.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: lawschoolgirl on April 17, 2007, 12:22:19 AM
To those who are in 04/23 group,

when do you guys think we'll hear from Chicago??
Will we have to wait until June/July?? Did you guys all send in additional materials?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on April 17, 2007, 05:28:27 PM
Waitlisted today.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 17, 2007, 05:31:09 PM
Waitlisted today.

 :o :(

well you were set on hls tho right?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on April 17, 2007, 05:31:40 PM
Waitlisted today.

 :o :(

well you were set on hls tho right?

Yeah, pretty much, but I just thought I'd update.   :D
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: krockband on April 17, 2007, 05:50:07 PM
Waitlisted today.

 :o :(

well you were set on hls tho right?

Yeah, pretty much, but I just thought I'd update.   :D

Haven't seen you post in a while. Did you enjoy the HLS ASW?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Brito on April 17, 2007, 05:59:29 PM
Waitlisted today.

 :o :(

well you were set on hls tho right?

Yeah, pretty much, but I just thought I'd update.   :D

Haven't seen you post in a while. Did you enjoy the HLS ASW?

I could not go last weekend, so I am visiting this weekend.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Stuart on April 25, 2007, 07:20:08 PM
This isn't that relevant, but I was dinged at Chicago yesterday. I was in the 3/1-ish hold group.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on April 25, 2007, 07:25:39 PM
Was anyone else dinged who wrote on one of the essay topics? Even though I knew I was out of their range, the fact that I had written an extra essay made the ding more painful because it made me feel like my essay must have just sucked. Plus their rejection letter is quite frank and not all that nice. No sugar coating here.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: keelee on April 25, 2007, 07:54:25 PM
Hold in the 2/23 category. I did write one of the essays, and was waitlisted (dated 4/20) and offered a chance to be considered for a guaranteed spot in the Class of 2011 (they would let me know by May 25th; though I am assume everybody who is waitlisted is offered this; you can ask for this and even if you don't get a spot, you can still be on the waitlist).  They suggested sending another writing sample. I would love to go to uChicago, I have nothing to lose. Now which of the two remaining topics to choose. By the looks of LSN, none of the 2/23 deferred group was admitted. All were WL or rejected from what I've looked through.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Pugnacious on April 25, 2007, 08:14:53 PM
Hold in the 2/23 category. I did write one of the essays, and was waitlisted (dated 4/20) and offered a chance to be considered for a guaranteed spot in the Class of 2011 (they would let me know by May 25th; though I am assume everybody who is waitlisted is offered this; you can ask for this and even if you don't get a spot, you can still be on the waitlist).  They suggested sending another writing sample. I would love to go to uChicago, I have nothing to lose. Now which of the two remaining topics to choose. By the looks of LSN, none of the 2/23 deferred group was admitted. All were WL or rejected from what I've looked through.

That makes me feel a little bit better...anyone else get flat out rejected?
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: Dr. Raoul Duke on April 26, 2007, 07:28:52 AM
Was anyone else dinged who wrote on one of the essay topics? Even though I knew I was out of their range, the fact that I had written an extra essay made the ding more painful because it made me feel like my essay must have just sucked. Plus their rejection letter is quite frank and not all that nice. No sugar coating here.

Definitely hear you on that one.  It was, how to say, Stalin-esquely blunt.  Not to mention a bit on the smug side  ::)
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: pea27 on April 26, 2007, 09:20:47 AM
i was in the held 2/2 group and got waitlisted as well.  is anyone else applying for deferred admission? i definitely am, chicago is by far my top choice!
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on April 28, 2007, 10:04:55 PM
i just checked lsn and there seems to be no one who were deferred and got in after 05/01. should i give up my hope?

I know for a fact that people got in off the WL over the summer last year.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: jamas on April 30, 2007, 07:36:59 PM
Sigh....

I'm in the 3/30 hold category, and decided to just let my application stand as is. I'm out of college, so I can't update my transcript or get another useful recommendation. I kicked around a bunch of drafts for one of the supplemental essays this week, but I wasn't really comfortable with any of them; I thought they were all weaker than my personal statement. Since they wouldn't have improved my application I didn't send any of them in.

I know the letter emphasizes that the supplements are optional, but I still get the feeling they're really not. C'est la vie.
Title: Re: "Hold" at Chicago
Post by: MindTheGap76 on April 30, 2007, 09:10:16 PM
Sigh....

I'm in the 3/30 hold category, and decided to just let my application stand as is. I'm out of college, so I can't update my transcript or get another useful recommendation. I kicked around a bunch of drafts for one of the supplemental essays this week, but I wasn't really comfortable with any of them; I thought they were all weaker than my personal statement. Since they wouldn't have improved my application I didn't send any of them in.

I know the letter emphasizes that the supplements are optional, but I still get the feeling they're really not. C'est la vie.


Almost certainly correct.