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Deciding Where to Go => Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists => Topic started by: tdice7 on January 27, 2007, 12:52:40 PM

Title: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: tdice7 on January 27, 2007, 12:52:40 PM
Got my first rejection today from BC. No big deal, but I am worried that this doesn't speak well for my chances at my top choices such as Vanderbilt, Texas, and Michigan (longshot anyway). The main reason i'm pissed is it breaks my acceptance-only streak. Oh well, 6 for 7 isn't too bad.
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: 617 on January 27, 2007, 12:56:55 PM
BC is a really finicky, hard to predict school.  While it is certainly frustrated to get rejected, I wouldn't take it as any indication of things to come.  Taking a look at LSN for this year or years past shows that BC is usually all over the place.  I have friends with 170+ and decent GPAs that were rejected by BC.  They really are just a crapshoot.
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: Data on January 30, 2007, 03:04:22 PM
BC is a really finicky, hard to predict school.  While it is certainly frustrated to get rejected, I wouldn't take it as any indication of things to come.  Taking a look at LSN for this year or years past shows that BC is usually all over the place.  I have friends with 170+ and decent GPAs that were rejected by BC.  They really are just a crapshoot.

Totally, what 617 said.  Don't take BC's rejection as indicative of anything at all.  Is there anyone that actually goes to BC that can explain their admissions philosophy? 
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: tdice7 on January 30, 2007, 05:32:25 PM
I think BC is heavily into soft factors this cycle. I've found several people who got in who have both lower GPAs and LSATs than me, but most of them are varsity athletes, non-traditionals, or spent time in the military.
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: na56 on February 13, 2007, 11:13:58 AM
If that gives you any relief, last year my son was rejected at BC but accepted at UVA and waitlisted at Columbia, NYU, and Penn. He is in UVA now.
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: GMAN on February 13, 2007, 03:45:25 PM
I was waited at BC w/ sub par numbers.  I think the soft factors are the key.
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: client228 on February 26, 2007, 08:24:35 PM
I, too, got my first reject of the cycle from BC.

Oh~well... hopefully BU will show me some love soon.
I've been having so much problem with mail that my rejection was dated 1/31 and I got the damn letter today!

Current Mood: Worried... :(
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: Lil Orphan Annie on February 27, 2007, 08:31:10 PM
I got dinged from BC too.

Then again, my LSAT was decidedly subpar, and my soft factors probably not cushy enough for them, so I really wasn't surprised in the least.

At least you got your other acceptances to bank on :-). Still, BC is such a gorgeous school, though...OK that probably doesn't help, sorry ;)
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: jusTTT on February 28, 2007, 08:15:41 AM
For what it's worth, I've always heard they weigh the GPA a lot more heavily than most schools. 
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: mustard on March 04, 2007, 06:10:26 PM
I think BC is heavily into soft factors this cycle. I've found several people who got in who have both lower GPAs and LSATs than me, but most of them are varsity athletes, non-traditionals, or spent time in the military.

This is how all schools should do their admissions.
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: Quail! on March 04, 2007, 07:21:39 PM
For what it's worth, I've always heard they weigh the GPA a lot more heavily than most schools. 

Their GPA emphasis is 23.27% in the index formula.  It is on the "higher-end" but there are certainly many schools that emphasize it more (Berkeley's for example is in excess of 37%)
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: tdice7 on March 04, 2007, 08:43:56 PM
I think BC is heavily into soft factors this cycle. I've found several people who got in who have both lower GPAs and LSATs than me, but most of them are varsity athletes, non-traditionals, or spent time in the military.

This is how all schools should do their admissions.

Yeah says you. Let's have all admissions decisions based on who can join the most clubs instead of who has better numbers.
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: mustard on March 05, 2007, 08:23:58 AM
I think BC is heavily into soft factors this cycle. I've found several people who got in who have both lower GPAs and LSATs than me, but most of them are varsity athletes, non-traditionals, or spent time in the military.

This is how all schools should do their admissions.

Yeah says you. Let's have all admissions decisions based on who can join the most clubs instead of who has better numbers.

You're right: If it was simply judging someone by the QUANTITY of interests outside of schoolwork the process of judging people by those soft factors would be worthless.

What I meant and was responding to was the judgment that BC weighed the QUALITY of soft factors like demonstrated leadership skills as playing a significant role in their decision-making process.

Being a great attorney is not the same as being a great student. There is an intellectual overlap, but it is equally important to possess judgment that people trust, the ability to put someone else's interests before your own, and the negotiating skills to reach favorable compromises. These are soft factors that are better understood by admissions offices through work that each applicant has done outside the classroom.

To have over the long-term the most successful alumni, law schools should do their best to weigh these soft factors along with class work and the LSAT. Some schools do, many don't.
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: BearlyLegal on August 07, 2007, 09:59:45 AM
For what it's worth, I've always heard they weigh the GPA a lot more heavily than most schools. 

Their GPA emphasis is 23.27% in the index formula.  It is on the "higher-end" but there are certainly many schools that emphasize it more (Berkeley's for example is in excess of 37%)

Where can I get my hands on this data?
Title: Re: Boston College......BOOOO!!!!!!!
Post by: I can has lauskul! on November 06, 2007, 11:06:13 AM
I think BC is heavily into soft factors this cycle. I've found several people who got in who have both lower GPAs and LSATs than me, but most of them are varsity athletes, non-traditionals, or spent time in the military.

This is how all schools should do their admissions.

Yeah says you. Let's have all admissions decisions based on who can join the most clubs instead of who has better numbers.

You're right: If it was simply judging someone by the QUANTITY of interests outside of schoolwork the process of judging people by those soft factors would be worthless.

What I meant and was responding to was the judgment that BC weighed the QUALITY of soft factors like demonstrated leadership skills as playing a significant role in their decision-making process.

Being a great attorney is not the same as being a great student. There is an intellectual overlap, but it is equally important to possess judgment that people trust, the ability to put someone else's interests before your own, and the negotiating skills to reach favorable compromises. These are soft factors that are better understood by admissions offices through work that each applicant has done outside the classroom.

To have over the long-term the most successful alumni, law schools should do their best to weigh these soft factors along with class work and the LSAT. Some schools do, many don't.


In theory, I agree with your "should do" claims 100% (for what it's worth).  In reality, though, thinking any law school admissions office has the capacity to carefully weigh the quality of each soft factor contained in every one of its 6000+ applications is a delusion of the highest degree.  The same holds true for any type of class work analysis beyond cumulative GPA.

The best anyone can hope for is that his/her application has at least one "standout" quantifiable factor (GPA, LSAT score, URM status) which catches a targeted law school's attention enough to warrant a closer look.