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Title: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: theprofessor on January 09, 2007, 06:33:23 AM
Just got the email. Well, it is certainly better than a rejection! The email says I can submit more information before my app is reviewed again. I have been out of school for several years, so no new transcripts, and I have plenty of recs already. Any ideas?? A "Why Harvard" essay?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: perfect pint on January 09, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
I would be SO HAPPY if I got a hold email because it would mean that there isn't a rejection letter in the mail for me... C'mon Harvard, my GPA might be stinky but I'm all heart!!!! Let's "just be friends" for a few more months!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Saja on January 09, 2007, 06:56:05 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't mind receiving that e-mail too much I suppose...better than a rejection!  At this point I'd like to just hear something from any school.;)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: daydreamer on January 09, 2007, 07:00:14 AM
Prof and Shanny, did you have a phone interview?  How long have you been complete?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Red Bull Imperator on January 09, 2007, 07:03:10 AM
I would actually mind that kind of email. I would also mind a rejection email.

That does not leave us with many options, right, Harvy? ;-)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Saja on January 09, 2007, 07:09:23 AM
Me too...happy to get this far...I was expecting to have to work my way in through the side door, anyway. 3.45/174...coming up short of perfection in a couple of ways.

The idea of a Why Harvard? essay seems silly. I think that Harvard expects a very high yield from candidates it puts on hold.

Yeah, I don't think too much yield protecting is going on at Harvard.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: theprofessor on January 09, 2007, 07:32:44 AM
Prof and Shanny, did you have a phone interview?  How long have you been complete?

No phone interview for me either. My understanding is that pretty guarantees admission. I've been complete since 10/26.

Any other ideas for what to send? My GPA certainly isn't going to go up and I already addressed it with an addendum.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Reach on January 09, 2007, 07:38:21 AM
I also just got this...I'm still in the "some news is better than no news" category.  Good luck everyone, I hope no one is too dismayed.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: GuysInMyHighSchool on January 09, 2007, 07:38:32 AM
I haven't gotten one so far, but we'll see how things play out later today (and this week).
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Reach on January 09, 2007, 07:46:28 AM
I also just got this...I'm still in the "some news is better than no news" category.  Good luck everyone, I hope no one is too dismayed.

Nah. This is what I expected. Good luck to you, too, Reach!

Thanks.  Also, not that you don't know this of course, but you've got some fabulous numbers and strong soft factors.  Your future is looking very bright even without an immediate Harvard nod.

Edit:  Thanks Shanny, and I'm really not broken up by this at all.  Acceptances are nice and choices are nicer, but I'll only be able to do a few preview/admit weekends.  That's not to say, of course, that I like being held, but I appreciate knowing where I stand.  Don't presumptively count yourself out/held though! 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: topher on January 09, 2007, 07:49:48 AM
Any idea if these came out all at once or are coming out in waves?  I'm nervous!  I'm very borderline, so if I don't get a hold email, then I could very well have a rejection letter sitting in my mailbox at home!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Violet247 on January 09, 2007, 08:04:56 AM
Not getting a hold email at this point is making me nervous!!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: perfect pint on January 09, 2007, 08:09:15 AM
Not getting a hold email at this point is making me nervous!!

UM DITTO!

NO WHAMMIES NO WHAMMIES NO WHAMMIES...
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: prolesurge on January 09, 2007, 08:09:41 AM
I also received the HOLD email from Harvard this morning (and never received a phone call email, etc).

Well, it certainly is better than a rejection. And I'm pretty happy I received even a hold. Hooray for small victories.

Edit: From what LSD and LSN tells us, I think we're all in good company. Cheers!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: perfect pint on January 09, 2007, 08:15:36 AM
So far only people who were complete on 10/26 seem to have gotten these emails (according to LSN)... I went complete exactly two months ago today (as did a lot of others I believe) so I wonder if we are also promised an update today or if we will get it in 2 1/2 months like the 10/26 people are?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: perfect pint on January 09, 2007, 08:17:25 AM
Not getting a hold email at this point is making me nervous!!

UM DITTO!

NO WHAMMIES NO WHAMMIES NO WHAMMIES...

this made me laugh.

sorry guys, looks like you're in it for the long haul  :(

Dude that was the best game show ever! I used to watch it and the Price is Right when I was sick and home from school as a kid. What was it called? Press Your Luck or something?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: teamcanada on January 09, 2007, 08:20:35 AM
is being "on hold" the same as waitlisted?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: pigwidgeon on January 09, 2007, 08:21:09 AM
 on hold too :)

Quite happy really, was expecting a rejection this week. Theres something I wish I had put itno my first app, so its nice to have this chance to add it now.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: topher on January 09, 2007, 08:27:16 AM
What about those of us who haven't gone complete yet?  Ahhh!  My application should have been complete LONG ago (Everything, including my letters of rec, was in by Oct. 10), and in their "application received" email, they specifically say that they'll let you know if your application is incomplete.  
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Reach on January 09, 2007, 08:28:46 AM
I also received the HOLD email from Harvard this morning (and never received a phone call email, etc).

Well, it certainly is better than a rejection. And I'm pretty happy I received even a hold. Hooray for small victories.

Edit: From what LSD and LSN tells us, I think we're all in good company. Cheers!

Hey, glad you got some "good" news too.  The deal's still on though, okay?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Sooner on January 09, 2007, 08:31:13 AM
Yeah, the GPA thing seemed to be the reason why HLS dropped below SLS in the rankings last year. There doesn't seem to be much hope for mediocre GPA candidates at any stage of the process, but especially after being deferred. I wish I hadn't gotten those Fs my freshman year.

Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: teamcanada on January 09, 2007, 08:44:36 AM
There doesn't seem to be much hope for mediocre GPA candidates at any stage of the process, but especially after being deferred.



i agree with the after being deferred part, but the reason why HLS' GPA needed increasing was because it was low to start off with. chances are they let in quite a few "mediocre" (still high compared to mine) GPAs with high LSATs initially and then had to counter it with accepting only high GPAs off the held applicants.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: spud1987 on January 09, 2007, 08:49:31 AM
I just got the Hold email too.  Does anyone know if this is just an eventual rejection or do I have some hope?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: flyaway on January 09, 2007, 09:02:40 AM
Yeah, the GPA thing seemed to be the reason why HLS dropped below SLS in the rankings last year. There doesn't seem to be much hope for mediocre GPA candidates at any stage of the process, but especially after being deferred. I wish I hadn't gotten those Fs my freshman year.



Crap, that's bad news for me.  I'm 177/3.41 nontrad, hoping to sneak in there.  Every time I see someone get accepted with a 172/3.9, I keep hoping they'll need someone like me to balance that out.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: prolesurge on January 09, 2007, 09:14:12 AM
I also received the HOLD email from Harvard this morning (and never received a phone call email, etc).

Well, it certainly is better than a rejection. And I'm pretty happy I received even a hold. Hooray for small victories.

Edit: From what LSD and LSN tells us, I think we're all in good company. Cheers!

Hey, glad you got some "good" news too.  The deal's still on though, okay?

Most definitely. We'll see how this ride ends.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Saja on January 09, 2007, 09:22:36 AM
No hold here...I'd be waiting for the big R, but (still) nobody complete after 10/26 has gotten the e-mail.  I can't believe that some of you weren't accepted outright!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: prolesurge on January 09, 2007, 11:15:17 AM
For those of you thinking about sending in some supplemental material...

How are you going to go about it?
The email mentions submitting a "Why Harvard?" type statement, transcript, and letters of recommendation. While it gives specific instructons for the first two, I'm a little confused about the last-If I submit another LOR, should I do it through LSAC or have it sent straight to the Harvard Admissions office? Any advice?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: spud1987 on January 09, 2007, 11:21:03 AM
For those of you thinking about sending in some supplemental material...

How are you going to go about it?
The email mentions submitting a "Why Harvard?" type statement, transcript, and letters of recommendation. While it gives specific instructons for the first two, I'm a little confused about the last-If I submit another LOR, should I do it through LSAC or have it sent straight to the Harvard Admissions office? Any advice?

I'm going to tell my recommender to submit my LOR directly to the school.  Based on the text of the email, I think this would be appropriate.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: another_prelaw on January 09, 2007, 12:07:22 PM
Held :(
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: spud1987 on January 09, 2007, 02:05:36 PM
Um I'm more than a little surprised that the people who got the e-mails got them at all - from the looks of LSN, most everybody who got held has fantastic numbers.  I'm just confused about this whole business!  ???

My numbers (esp. lsat) aren't necessarily up to Harvard's standards which is why I'm excited. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: dietpepsi on January 09, 2007, 02:07:44 PM
Does anyone know about what % of held people end up being accepted? Thanks
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on January 09, 2007, 02:39:31 PM
Um I'm more than a little surprised that the people who got the e-mails got them at all - from the looks of LSN, most everybody who got held has fantastic numbers.  I'm just confused about this whole business!  ???

My numbers (esp. lsat) aren't necessarily up to Harvard's standards which is why I'm excited. 

Hey, my numbers are quite similar. Maybe there's hope for my ass being held yet.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: dietpepsi on January 09, 2007, 03:06:46 PM
Could anyone paste the text of the hold letter? Thanks
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 09, 2007, 03:20:33 PM
tag, due to me new obsession with Harvard. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: sillyberry on January 09, 2007, 03:29:57 PM
Held here.

If Goalie (who's like my hotter and smarter sister) was held, there was no way in hell I was going up!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: sillyberry on January 09, 2007, 03:53:51 PM
Held here.

If Goalie (who's like my hotter and smarter sister) was held, there was no way in hell I was going up!

Oh please! Don't make me remind everyone about your Darrow  ;)

Maybe we can all get a desk to hang out under like those Michigan kids. That sounded like fun.

Maybe we could hang out at the Hong Kong and drink Scorpion Bowls.  THAT would make the wait more enjoyable!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Red Bull Imperator on January 09, 2007, 03:56:06 PM
Held here.

If Goalie (who's like my hotter and smarter sister) was held, there was no way in hell I was going up!

Oh please! Don't make me remind everyone about your Darrow  ;)

Maybe we can all get a desk to hang out under like those Michigan kids. That sounded like fun.

Maybe we could hang out at the Hong Kong and drink Scorpion Bowls.  THAT would make the wait more enjoyable!

Oh man! Okay, maybe we should actually all go to Harvard after all. I forgot about those Scorpion Bowls. Can we still hang out at the Kong as grad students? Because that place is so sweet....

Someone mentioned Scorpion Bowls? Brain freeze! Brain freeze! aaaargh
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Reach on January 09, 2007, 03:59:36 PM
Could anyone paste the text of the hold letter? Thanks

Dear Mr. Reach:

The Admissions Committee has reviewed your application and has decided to hold it for further review.  Although we regret the immediate uncertainty this entails, the purpose of holding applications is to ensure that each application receives thorough and fair consideration.  Once a larger portion of the applicant pool has been reviewed, the Committee will decide whether to admit, wait-list, or deny individual applications that have been placed on hold.  These decisions may be made at any time between now and late spring.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to predict the next decision on your application or the timing of that decision.  Our experience shows that the number of applications on hold varies significantly from year to year as do the proportions that are offered admission, wait-listed, or denied.  Therefore, historical information provides no predictive value on individual applications.

A hold decision provides an opportunity to update and supplement your file.  You may wish to submit relevant materials that you would like included in the continuing review of your application.  For example, if you have received additional grades since submitting your transcripts to LSDAS, please send them directly to our office (when making decisions on applicants who are currently enrolled in a degree program, we expect to see the most updated grades possible).  If obtaining a transcript will delay our receipt of these grades, send us the information and have it confirmed with an official transcript as soon as one is available.  Additional letters of recommendation are welcome.  If you have a special interest in attending Harvard or in being located in Cambridge, please feel free to tell us about that as well.  Any new information that you feel might be helpful is appropriate.  All correspondence to our office should include your LSDAS registration number or Social Security
  number and be signed by you.

We will make final decisions as soon as possible.  However, if you do not hear from us again before mid-April, you may want to reserve a place at a law school to which you have been offered admission [emphasis added = thanks for the advice, Harvard] while the final disposition of your application to Harvard Law School remains unknown. 

Thank you for your patience and for your interest.  We will contact you as soon as the next decision on your application has been made.
                     
Sincerely,
Karen Buttenbaum
Associate Director of Admissions
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: dietpepsi on January 09, 2007, 04:01:31 PM
Thanks a lot
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Reach on January 09, 2007, 04:04:42 PM
No problem you two.  And mpark?  It's not quite time to worry yet!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: dietpepsi on January 09, 2007, 04:17:10 PM
Anyone know the stats about turing holds into acceptances?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: spacecadette on January 09, 2007, 05:00:33 PM
even though i was a no-email-receiver from michigan last week that turned into an acceptance this week, this time around i am very distraught that yet again i am missing out on the held email...dingdingding!   :-\
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Le Poisson Timide on January 09, 2007, 05:03:02 PM
Has anyone who has gone complete after 10/26 received the "hold" notice?

Looks like they are really gunning for GPAs this cycle...
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: spud1987 on January 09, 2007, 05:10:45 PM
Anyone know the stats about turing holds into acceptances?

Based on last years LSN it seems that the ratio for held applicants between accepts/denials is 65/35.  Also, nearly all the acceptances occured before April whereas most the denials came towards the end of April into May.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: dietpepsi on January 09, 2007, 05:26:06 PM
Wow, to make sure I got that right, you are saying 65% accept?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on January 09, 2007, 05:26:40 PM
Could anyone paste the text of the hold letter? Thanks

Dear Mr. Reach:

The Admissions Committee has reviewed your application and has decided to hold it for further review.  Although we regret the immediate uncertainty this entails, the purpose of holding applications is to ensure that each application receives thorough and fair consideration.  Once a larger portion of the applicant pool has been reviewed, the Committee will decide whether to admit, wait-list, or deny individual applications that have been placed on hold.  These decisions may be made at any time between now and late spring.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to predict the next decision on your application or the timing of that decision.  Our experience shows that the number of applications on hold varies significantly from year to year as do the proportions that are offered admission, wait-listed, or denied.  Therefore, historical information provides no predictive value on individual applications.

A hold decision provides an opportunity to update and supplement your file.  You may wish to submit relevant materials that you would like included in the continuing review of your application.  For example, if you have received additional grades since submitting your transcripts to LSDAS, please send them directly to our office (when making decisions on applicants who are currently enrolled in a degree program, we expect to see the most updated grades possible).  If obtaining a transcript will delay our receipt of these grades, send us the information and have it confirmed with an official transcript as soon as one is available.  Additional letters of recommendation are welcome.  If you have a special interest in attending Harvard or in being located in Cambridge, please feel free to tell us about that as well.  Any new information that you feel might be helpful is appropriate.  All correspondence to our office should include your LSDAS registration number or Social Security
  number and be signed by you.

We will make final decisions as soon as possible.  However, if you do not hear from us again before mid-April, you may want to reserve a place at a law school to which you have been offered admission [emphasis added = thanks for the advice, Harvard] while the final disposition of your application to Harvard Law School remains unknown. 

Thank you for your patience and for your interest.  We will contact you as soon as the next decision on your application has been made.
                     
Sincerely,
Karen Buttenbaum
Associate Director of Admissions

Can we at least take some solace in the humorous fact that her name is "Buttenbaum"? :-D
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: spud1987 on January 09, 2007, 05:56:12 PM
Wow, to make sure I got that right, you are saying 65% accept?

Sorry its supposed to be the other way around, 65% reject. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: spud1987 on January 09, 2007, 05:58:41 PM
Could anyone paste the text of the hold letter? Thanks

Dear Mr. Reach:

The Admissions Committee has reviewed your application and has decided to hold it for further review.  Although we regret the immediate uncertainty this entails, the purpose of holding applications is to ensure that each application receives thorough and fair consideration.  Once a larger portion of the applicant pool has been reviewed, the Committee will decide whether to admit, wait-list, or deny individual applications that have been placed on hold.  These decisions may be made at any time between now and late spring.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to predict the next decision on your application or the timing of that decision.  Our experience shows that the number of applications on hold varies significantly from year to year as do the proportions that are offered admission, wait-listed, or denied.  Therefore, historical information provides no predictive value on individual applications.

A hold decision provides an opportunity to update and supplement your file.  You may wish to submit relevant materials that you would like included in the continuing review of your application.  For example, if you have received additional grades since submitting your transcripts to LSDAS, please send them directly to our office (when making decisions on applicants who are currently enrolled in a degree program, we expect to see the most updated grades possible).  If obtaining a transcript will delay our receipt of these grades, send us the information and have it confirmed with an official transcript as soon as one is available.  Additional letters of recommendation are welcome.  If you have a special interest in attending Harvard or in being located in Cambridge, please feel free to tell us about that as well.  Any new information that you feel might be helpful is appropriate.  All correspondence to our office should include your LSDAS registration number or Social Security
  number and be signed by you.

We will make final decisions as soon as possible.  However, if you do not hear from us again before mid-April, you may want to reserve a place at a law school to which you have been offered admission [emphasis added = thanks for the advice, Harvard] while the final disposition of your application to Harvard Law School remains unknown. 

Thank you for your patience and for your interest.  We will contact you as soon as the next decision on your application has been made.
                     
Sincerely,
Karen Buttenbaum
Associate Director of Admissions

Can we at least take some solace in the humorous fact that her name is "Buttenbaum"? :-D

That's the spirit! Buttenbaum indeed.

Buttenbaum has got to be made up, I'm sure its just Toby Stock's pen name.  ;)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: GuysInMyHighSchool on January 09, 2007, 06:13:53 PM
Looks like they are really gunning for GPAs this cycle...

That's what I was thinking as well. Now my chances look close to NIL.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on January 09, 2007, 06:34:19 PM
Could anyone paste the text of the hold letter? Thanks

Dear Mr. Reach:

The Admissions Committee has reviewed your application and has decided to hold it for further review.  Although we regret the immediate uncertainty this entails, the purpose of holding applications is to ensure that each application receives thorough and fair consideration.  Once a larger portion of the applicant pool has been reviewed, the Committee will decide whether to admit, wait-list, or deny individual applications that have been placed on hold.  These decisions may be made at any time between now and late spring.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to predict the next decision on your application or the timing of that decision.  Our experience shows that the number of applications on hold varies significantly from year to year as do the proportions that are offered admission, wait-listed, or denied.  Therefore, historical information provides no predictive value on individual applications.

A hold decision provides an opportunity to update and supplement your file.  You may wish to submit relevant materials that you would like included in the continuing review of your application.  For example, if you have received additional grades since submitting your transcripts to LSDAS, please send them directly to our office (when making decisions on applicants who are currently enrolled in a degree program, we expect to see the most updated grades possible).  If obtaining a transcript will delay our receipt of these grades, send us the information and have it confirmed with an official transcript as soon as one is available.  Additional letters of recommendation are welcome.  If you have a special interest in attending Harvard or in being located in Cambridge, please feel free to tell us about that as well.  Any new information that you feel might be helpful is appropriate.  All correspondence to our office should include your LSDAS registration number or Social Security
  number and be signed by you.

We will make final decisions as soon as possible.  However, if you do not hear from us again before mid-April, you may want to reserve a place at a law school to which you have been offered admission [emphasis added = thanks for the advice, Harvard] while the final disposition of your application to Harvard Law School remains unknown. 

Thank you for your patience and for your interest.  We will contact you as soon as the next decision on your application has been made.
                     
Sincerely,
Karen Buttenbaum
Associate Director of Admissions

Can we at least take some solace in the humorous fact that her name is "Buttenbaum"? :-D

That's the spirit! Buttenbaum indeed.

Buttenbaum has got to be made up, I'm sure its just Toby Stock's pen name.  ;)

I would SO do that if I were an AD ... call autodings and throw out the "Hi, this is Dean Seymour Butts at Yale... no, really. Really."
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Catherine Morland on January 09, 2007, 06:54:20 PM
She came to my school for an info session.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: topher on January 10, 2007, 10:03:57 AM
Has anyone heard anything from Harvard today? Any ideas about what the "Hold" emails from yesterday might indicate--that is to say, do we think that their first round of holds might be over?  And, for people who are borderline who didn't get a hold email yesterday, do we think this means a probable rejection?  I noticed on LSN that their first round of rejections started right about this time last year.  Ahhhh!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: dietpepsi on January 10, 2007, 10:38:58 AM
Has anyone gotten a hold who went complete in Dec? I don't think the holds are done yet. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: 245 on January 10, 2007, 10:45:14 AM
Has anyone heard anything from Harvard today? Any ideas about what the "Hold" emails from yesterday might indicate--that is to say, do we think that their first round of holds might be over?  And, for people who are borderline who didn't get a hold email yesterday, do we think this means a probable rejection?  I noticed on LSN that their first round of rejections started right about this time last year.  Ahhhh!

Topher- Have you gone complete at Harvard yet?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: topher on January 10, 2007, 10:56:24 AM
mike245: Ha!  Good question.  At everyone's urging yesterday, I called, and someone in the office told me that, in fact, my application was complete.  I never received an email about it, though, which was odd.  I'm sure that my application just somehow got lost in the shuffle.  For me, Harvard has always been a bit of a stretch because my GPA is not above 3.8, so we'll see.  I'm fully expecting a "Hold" email or a flat-out reject letter.  Clearly, the former is better  ::)  In good news, though, I'm headed to CO tomorrow for some skiing!  Nah-nah-nah-nah-boo-boo!!   ;D  I think I'll pay the money to have internet access in the condo, though--just in case something happens while I'm there!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: perfect pint on January 10, 2007, 01:43:37 PM
I'm on hold too, just got the email. I am so incredibly excited. I thought I was for sure a ding! Time to get cracking on the supplementary materials.... :)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: haasi on January 10, 2007, 01:45:42 PM
Just got the hold e-mail too. Disappointed but still hopeful.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Violet247 on January 10, 2007, 01:47:11 PM
When did you all go complete? I was late November so trying to figure out if this is a sure-fire rejection or if they're still working their way down to my pile of iffy applicants...  :-\
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: perfect pint on January 10, 2007, 01:52:41 PM
When did you all go complete? I was late November so trying to figure out if this is a sure-fire rejection or if they're still working their way down to my pile of iffy applicants...  :-\

I went complete November 9th, so they are working down from the Octobers of yesterday.
I know that my odds aren't great but somehow it feels nice to not be a straight-up ding.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Red Bull Imperator on January 10, 2007, 02:10:47 PM
Officially joining the "hold" club - got the e-mail today. 

Complete 11/9, interview 11/20  :-\

You're almost my number twin... you'll get in, don't worry!  ;)

(ah, I'd love to receive the interview email....)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Saja on January 10, 2007, 02:13:13 PM
Just got the "hold" e-mail as well. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 10, 2007, 02:53:51 PM
mike245: Ha!  Good question.  At everyone's urging yesterday, I called, and someone in the office told me that, in fact, my application was complete.  I never received an email about it, though, which was odd.  I'm sure that my application just somehow got lost in the shuffle.  For me, Harvard has always been a bit of a stretch because my GPA is not above 3.8, so we'll see.  I'm fully expecting a "Hold" email or a flat-out reject letter.  Clearly, the former is better  ::)  In good news, though, I'm headed to CO tomorrow for some skiing!  Nah-nah-nah-nah-boo-boo!!   ;D  I think I'll pay the money to have internet access in the condo, though--just in case something happens while I'm there!

Interesting.  Maybe I have gone complete too, and they just didn't tell me. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: wiiiiiii on January 10, 2007, 03:03:59 PM
Officially joining the "hold" club - got the e-mail today. 

Complete 11/9, interview 11/20  :-\

You're almost my number twin... you'll get in, don't worry!  ;)

(ah, I'd love to receive the interview email....)

subtle self-trolling
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Red Bull Imperator on January 10, 2007, 03:04:53 PM
Officially joining the "hold" club - got the e-mail today. 

Complete 11/9, interview 11/20  :-\

You're almost my number twin... you'll get in, don't worry!  ;)

(ah, I'd love to receive the interview email....)

subtle self-trolling

Subtle? Oh my, and I tried to be explicit....
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: wiiiiiii on January 10, 2007, 03:09:12 PM
Officially joining the "hold" club - got the e-mail today. 

Complete 11/9, interview 11/20  :-\

You're almost my number twin... you'll get in, don't worry!  ;)

(ah, I'd love to receive the interview email....)

subtle self-trolling

Subtle? Oh my, and I tried to be explicit....

flame
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Red Bull Imperator on January 10, 2007, 03:10:08 PM
Officially joining the "hold" club - got the e-mail today. 

Complete 11/9, interview 11/20  :-\

You're almost my number twin... you'll get in, don't worry!  ;)

(ah, I'd love to receive the interview email....)

subtle self-trolling

Subtle? Oh my, and I tried to be explicit....

flame

Moi? Hmm. No.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 10, 2007, 06:51:16 PM
They've already worked all the way up to people who went complete in mid/late November?
I guess I should expect a hold e-mail in the next few days.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: 'tiki on January 10, 2007, 08:44:27 PM
Well congrats to those who got the hold email! (it's pseudo-good news) I have not received the "hold" email (good? bad? eh) and have been in DC for a week now so I can't wait to get back to my apt on Saturday after being gone for a month, there should be tons of mail!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: quizzle16 on January 10, 2007, 09:14:02 PM
Maybe Harvard will let me know if I'm complete this week...how long does it usually take? (Sorry to hijack the thread a bit-I'm just curious...and hoping for at least a hold in my future)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on January 10, 2007, 09:59:58 PM
Just got the "hold" e-mail as well. 

Mm, Harvard's gonna hold me late into the night as well. :-p
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: wolfpack2 on January 10, 2007, 10:18:18 PM
Officially joining the "hold" club - got the e-mail today. 

Complete 11/9, interview 11/20  :-\

mpark I thought you were for sure going to be in!

Goodluck to everyone, I'm glad I didn't apply to harvard, I wouldn't want the stress you guys have right now!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 10, 2007, 10:53:31 PM
I'm just puzzled as to why anyone wouldn't want to accept mpark.   ???

But seriously, if Toby felt compelled to call you, there must be something about your application that he liked.  That makes me think your application might be one of the first he pulls off the "hold" stack...
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on January 11, 2007, 08:57:16 AM
Just got the "hold" e-mail as well. 

Mm, Harvard's gonna hold me late into the night as well. :-p

Any thoughts on whether taking the Feb. LSAT could help me get off the hold list? Since the LSAT is the weakest part of my app, and I'm 95% confident I can score higher (had a sinus infection for the Oct one, not bad enough to cancel for but I know I wasn't my sharpest), I'm tempted, but I have a feeling the score might come in too late to make a difference.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 11, 2007, 10:15:24 AM
Just got the "hold" e-mail as well. 

Mm, Harvard's gonna hold me late into the night as well. :-p

Any thoughts on whether taking the Feb. LSAT could help me get off the hold list? Since the LSAT is the weakest part of my app, and I'm 95% confident I can score higher (had a sinus infection for the Oct one, not bad enough to cancel for but I know I wasn't my sharpest), I'm tempted, but I have a feeling the score might come in too late to make a difference.

Thoughts?

I think that's a good idea actually.  Especially with the new LSAT policy, even a few points higher could really improve your chances.  And the waitlist could potentially go on until June or July. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: haasi on January 11, 2007, 11:17:35 AM
that sounds like a very good idea, provided harvard accepts february lsats. even if they don't normally, i would call their office and ask them whether in the case of someone on hold, they would accept a new (february) lsat score.

just curious - why didn't you apply to stanford? based on their 25th/75th for LSAT and GPA, you seem like a very good candidate for there.

Just got the "hold" e-mail as well. 

Mm, Harvard's gonna hold me late into the night as well. :-p

Any thoughts on whether taking the Feb. LSAT could help me get off the hold list? Since the LSAT is the weakest part of my app, and I'm 95% confident I can score higher (had a sinus infection for the Oct one, not bad enough to cancel for but I know I wasn't my sharpest), I'm tempted, but I have a feeling the score might come in too late to make a difference.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on January 11, 2007, 01:00:11 PM
that sounds like a very good idea, provided harvard accepts february lsats. even if they don't normally, i would call their office and ask them whether in the case of someone on hold, they would accept a new (february) lsat score.

just curious - why didn't you apply to stanford? based on their 25th/75th for LSAT and GPA, you seem like a very good candidate for there.

Just got the "hold" e-mail as well. 

Mm, Harvard's gonna hold me late into the night as well. :-p

Any thoughts on whether taking the Feb. LSAT could help me get off the hold list? Since the LSAT is the weakest part of my app, and I'm 95% confident I can score higher (had a sinus infection for the Oct one, not bad enough to cancel for but I know I wasn't my sharpest), I'm tempted, but I have a feeling the score might come in too late to make a difference.

Thoughts?

Thanks, Haasi. I sent them an e-mail asking if the Feb. LSAT would be accepted and just (two seconds ago!) got this response:

Dear Ferbear,

Thank you for your email. To address your question, we do expect to be
able to take February scores into account when reviewing hold
applications, as many hold applications will not be looked at again
until around the time those scores become available. If you would like
to take the February test, and ensure that we take that score into
account, you are welcome to mail us a hard copy letter requesting that
we delay any decision until we are able to do so. Thank you!

Regards,

Harvard Law School J.D. Admissions
Austin Hall 203, 1515 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138
jdadmiss@law.harvard.edu
617-495-3179

Truth be told I didn't apply to any west coast, Chicago, New Haven or NYC schools because I don't want to be there. :) I'm an east coaster at heart, but I don't really like the city nor do I want to be in the Haven. Grew up a little too close to it.

So, let the LSAT cramming part deux begin!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Violet247 on January 12, 2007, 08:47:03 AM
No contact at all from Harvard since I went complete in the middle of November. :(

Scratch that. Harvard held me this morning.

That phrase sounds alot more comforting when taken out of context.

Would you mind sharing your complete date?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: DelDad on January 12, 2007, 09:14:19 AM
Held this morning - Complete 11/16/06
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: civicsclass on January 12, 2007, 09:38:07 AM
Wow, this is quite the party!  Add me to the pile!

Complete email: November 16th
Hold email: today (January 12th)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on January 12, 2007, 10:22:46 AM
Wow, this is quite the party!  Add me to the pile!

Complete email: November 16th
Hold email: today (January 12th)

Add me to the hold pile.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mericore on January 12, 2007, 10:45:54 AM
Hold party! Complete 11/16

Now to determine what sort of supplementary materials will actually help my cause...
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: rtqw on January 12, 2007, 10:57:33 AM
First negative news of the cycle - held at Harvard today.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: belleshine on January 12, 2007, 02:49:54 PM
Also on hold.  Complete 10/26...the waiting continues  :(
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 12, 2007, 06:20:14 PM
First negative news of the cycle - held at Harvard today.

Uh oh rtqw...this is bad news for me!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 12, 2007, 06:27:39 PM
So people who went complete on 11/16 got hold e-mails today?
Guess that means I'll get my hold e-mail in around 3 weeks.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: rtqw on January 12, 2007, 06:30:00 PM
First negative news of the cycle - held at Harvard today.

Uh oh rtqw...this is bad news for me!

Sorry similar numbers buddy!

Why'd it take your application so long for you to go complete at Harvard?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 12, 2007, 06:59:30 PM
First negative news of the cycle - held at Harvard today.

Uh oh rtqw...this is bad news for me!

Sorry similar numbers buddy!

Why'd it take your application so long for you to go complete at Harvard?

I had problems getting this last rec into them. 

And mpark, I do doubt that any material you submit will have much of an impact.  Honestly they'll probably be more concerned with adjusting their numbers and/or getting that "diverse" class.  You should still make an effort though!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: safado on January 12, 2007, 07:02:50 PM
It sounds to me like they are trying to discourage sending additional stuff, he said that "it's in our hands now". Unless you can write something really compelling, I wouldn't send anything. I think it would be hard to write a "Why Harvard" essay, because of course you want to go to Harvard, it's HARVARD. They don't really need to be told how good they are or how badly you want to go there, they know.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 12, 2007, 10:22:46 PM
True, but the way the e-mail is worded makes it seem like they might encourage the sending of additional materials.  For example:

"Additional letters of recommendation are welcome.  If you have a special interest in attending Harvard or in being located in Cambridge, please feel free to tell us about that as well.  Any new information that you feel might be helpful is appropriate."

I doubt sending in additional material will hurt your case. Worst-case scenario, it just won't help you, so you've got nothing to lose.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: liz21 on January 15, 2007, 11:48:11 AM
I can't believe I didn't find this forum sooner! I'm also on hold, was complete 10/26 and got the hold email at the beginning of January. I haven't set up a LSN account yet, but my numbers are 172/3.93. I'm just glad I found a place with others in the same situation I am in  :)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: bass on January 15, 2007, 02:48:11 PM
Didn't read the thread, just wanted to check in and say people do get in after getting held.  I did.  I did send the why harvard thing.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Violet247 on January 16, 2007, 09:06:43 AM
Anyone hear from Harvard yet?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Violet247 on January 16, 2007, 09:15:48 AM
Pickles, are you in the 11/22 complete batch?

Yep, which is why I'm assuming after the 16th batch we should be soon! You?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Violet247 on January 16, 2007, 10:02:22 AM
Pickles, are you in the 11/22 complete batch?

Yep, which is why I'm assuming after the 16th batch we should be soon! You?

Also in this batch of completes and hoping to hear in the next few days.  I'm thinking of re-taking the LSAT as part of my 'hold' effort but would obviously rather not drop 160 bucks if I'm going to get rejected.  I may even call in the next few days and try to maneuver my way into having them tell me whether they've mailed something out yet or not (I'm not at my mailing address, which is overseas).

Lol this is like the Michigan Desk reunion. I was thinking about redoing the LSAT as well - before my mom said 1. it will hurt your chances at chicago 2. what if you do worse? 3. you have that kind of money? 4. you're insane and if you sign up for that test again I will throw up in my mouth.

Guess I'll find more letters of rec.

LOL. It IS like a desk reunion! Count me in on the doctors visits- after this stress we'll need it! I was thinking of retaking too until I realized that in LSD world a 172 might not be all that great but in real world land it's an amazing score and I should just be happy with where that will take me. I'd be PSYCHED to get into Harvard but if my "sub-par" numbers aren't enough then oh well! That being said I at least hope for a hold. :)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 16, 2007, 11:01:42 AM
I was thinking about redoing the LSAT as well - before my mom said 1. it will hurt your chances at chicago 2. what if you do worse? 3. you have that kind of money? 4. you're insane and if you sign up for that test again I will throw up in my mouth.

Guess I'll find more letters of rec.

It probably wouldn't help if I retook the LSAT and got a 180 if I'm already around their 75th, right?

Man I wish I could somehow go back in time and improve my GPA, even if just a little. In hindsight, I think it would be extremely easy for me to raise my GPA even by 0.1 points.

I guess I'll have to ask my employer for an additional rec letter at some point in the future, if I don't get outright rejected first.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Red Bull Imperator on January 17, 2007, 04:51:08 AM
quick question: are you guys submitting a separate why harvard essay? or are you just sending that as part of a letter?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: theprofessor on January 17, 2007, 06:04:03 AM
quick question: are you guys submitting a separate why harvard essay? or are you just sending that as part of a letter?

I ended up sending a 1 1/2 page letter that focused on "why harvard?" I feel that there really isn't anything else for me to add at this point. The most glaring weakness in my app is my GPA, and there isn't anything I can do about that, unfortunately.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ButImAGilmore on January 17, 2007, 12:33:18 PM
Crap. Looks like my rejection should be coming to me soon. I went complete on the same day but no "hold" for me.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Violet247 on January 17, 2007, 12:33:38 PM
Held here, too. Also complete 11/22.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: GovtLackey on January 17, 2007, 03:54:32 PM
Also held today.  My numbers are terrible (compared to the rest of the hold crew) but a couple very unusual soft factors are keeping me in the mix, apparently.  If they end up wanting high GPA, not good for me; if they're satisfied with their number averages in the end, maybe there's a shot.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: lovelyavocado on January 17, 2007, 04:08:00 PM
guys! you still have hope! hold does not mean out!

i'm being cheerful because i'll be in this crowd soon enough. i went complete right around christmas...when should i expect my hold/rejection?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: sentimentalhygienist on January 17, 2007, 04:25:12 PM
Held today too.  Also complete 11/22.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Violet247 on January 17, 2007, 04:49:59 PM
Did all of these holds come out at the same time? I'm really bummed I don't have one...

Mine came at 1:49 PM. I am rooting for you Squirrel!!! I need an ulcer buddy to wait out the hold with!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 17, 2007, 05:39:05 PM
Awww. Cheers to all of us on the deferred boat. I am rooting for us all, although I suspect they will mostly use us for our numbers when and if they come back to us. They don't appreciate our stunning inner beauty.

I told my dad that I got deferred at Harvard and he said, "That just means:  'No, but we won't tell you for a while,' right?"  :D

Such an optimist....

Don't you have amazing numbers?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: shakeyamonmon on January 17, 2007, 07:07:01 PM
Also held today and also complete on 11/22.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 17, 2007, 08:04:31 PM
3.66/177. So, your basic right-around-the-25th-GPA/right-around-the-75th-LSAT combo. Depends entirely on which one they need to bolster, I suppose....

You're too kind, though  :D

Sure thing. I thought your GPA was higher, like around the 3.8 mark. You and I have similar numbers, actually. I'll be expecting a hold e-mail in about 2-3 weeks. Let's hope that Toby decides to give us a call sometime in Feb/March/April.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: liz21 on January 17, 2007, 08:23:45 PM
To those of you who sent letters after being held, who did you address the letter to? I've finished mine but I'm not sure which Dean it should go to!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on January 17, 2007, 11:56:02 PM
Awww. Cheers to all of us on the deferred boat. I am rooting for us all, although I suspect they will mostly use us for our numbers when and if they come back to us. They don't appreciate our stunning inner beauty.

I told my dad that I got deferred at Harvard and he said, "That just means:  'No, but we won't tell you for a while,' right?"  :D

Such an optimist....

Don't you have amazing numbers?

3.66/177. So, your basic right-around-the-25th-GPA/right-around-the-75th-LSAT combo. Depends entirely on which one they need to bolster, I suppose....

You're too kind, though  :D

I'm a little surprised that Harvard is being so cavalier with the 177s... I noticed another applicant with a 177 who got put on hold.

Doesn't give me much hope for my 177...  :-\
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 18, 2007, 12:17:37 AM
I'm a little surprised that Harvard is being so cavalier with the 177s... I noticed another applicant with a 177 who got put on hold.

Doesn't give me much hope for my 177...  :-\

I think they're going for higher GPA this time around than last year, although their LSAT 25/75 should still remain high.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mericore on January 19, 2007, 10:22:09 AM
I'm in a similar situation as goaliechica/despot...3.61/177. Pretty obvious to me which one of my numbers is keeping me on hold.

Anyway, I figured that a letter of continued interest couldn't hurt and could only help. My family is from the Boston area, and while I definitely want to work in NYC after graduation, I'm leaning towards coming back to Boston after a few years. Also, I'd choose H over any other school I've applied to, regardless of any $$$.

My dad just read over my letter, and thinks I should put in a paragraph about how I took challenging classes because I wanted to expand my mind and didn't obsess about my GPA. I think that sounds whiny, and my numbers are what they are, no use explaining them away (although the GPA has increased to 3.63! w00t!) Who's right?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Reach on January 19, 2007, 10:31:50 AM
I finally sent in my letter of continued interest and an additional essay.  I'm glad I can finally wash my hands of this.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mericore on January 19, 2007, 10:44:13 AM
I'm in a similar situation as goaliechica/despot...3.61/177. Pretty obvious to me which one of my numbers is keeping me on hold.

Anyway, I figured that a letter of continued interest couldn't hurt and could only help. My family is from the Boston area, and while I definitely want to work in NYC after graduation, I'm leaning towards coming back to Boston after a few years. Also, I'd choose H over any other school I've applied to, regardless of any $$$.

My dad just read over my letter, and thinks I should put in a paragraph about how I took challenging classes because I wanted to expand my mind and didn't obsess about my GPA. I think that sounds whiny, and my numbers are what they are, no use explaining them away (although the GPA has increased to 3.63! w00t!) Who's right?

I think your instincts are right on this.  They don't care, unfortunately.  They don't have to report your class load to US News; GPA yes.

My thoughts exactly. I think that my father's advice is tainted by that parental inability to see me as anything but a special and unique snowflake. He can't seem to understand why adcomms wouldn't consider me in the same way.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on January 19, 2007, 10:49:17 AM
Mericore, cheer up! Repeat after me:

I am unique, just like everyone else.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: prajna on January 19, 2007, 10:54:15 AM
i didn't read the whole harvard hold thread so excuse me if this is repetitive. If i went complete on 11/22 and didn't get a hold email, does this mean i will be flatly rejected? oh the shame!! :'( . are they laughing at the updated transcript i just sent them, along with my sentence of continued interest?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Beamrag on January 19, 2007, 06:47:44 PM
I just got the hold letter today as well, and am frankly somewhat shocked considering my numbers. I have a very high GPA, but my LSAT is definitely quite low for Harvard.

Question for you all: In the hold letter, they ask for an official transcript to be sent right to their office. I already sent a new transcript to LSDAS with my fall 2006 grades. Will LSAC automatically send Harvard a new report, thus making it unnecessary for me to get an official transcript to Harvard, or do I need to do both? Maybe I could just send them an unofficial copy of my transcript while they wait for the new LSDAS report?

Thanks, and good luck all.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: liz21 on January 19, 2007, 06:58:04 PM
I just got the hold letter today as well, and am frankly somewhat shocked considering my numbers. I have a very high GPA, but my LSAT is definitely quite low for Harvard.

Question for you all: In the hold letter, they ask for an official transcript to be sent right to their office. I already sent a new transcript to LSDAS with my fall 2006 grades. Will LSAC automatically send Harvard a new report, thus making it unnecessary for me to get an official transcript to Harvard, or do I need to do both? Maybe I could just send them an unofficial copy of my transcript while they wait for the new LSDAS report?

Thanks, and good luck all.


I did the same thing and had my school send an updated transcript to LSDAS before I got the hold email, and the day after the transcript appeared on LSDAS it was mailed out to all of the schools, including Harvard. So I wouldn't send another official one to Harvard, but sending them an unofficial one doesn't sound like a bad idea, if you think it will get there before the one from LSDAS. Good luck!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 19, 2007, 08:13:01 PM
Too bad I don't have any more transcripts to update... I've been out of college for a while now.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on January 20, 2007, 04:37:02 PM
I just got the hold letter today as well, and am frankly somewhat shocked considering my numbers. I have a very high GPA, but my LSAT is definitely quite low for Harvard.

Question for you all: In the hold letter, they ask for an official transcript to be sent right to their office. I already sent a new transcript to LSDAS with my fall 2006 grades. Will LSAC automatically send Harvard a new report, thus making it unnecessary for me to get an official transcript to Harvard, or do I need to do both? Maybe I could just send them an unofficial copy of my transcript while they wait for the new LSDAS report?

Thanks, and good luck all.


I did the same thing and had my school send an updated transcript to LSDAS before I got the hold email, and the day after the transcript appeared on LSDAS it was mailed out to all of the schools, including Harvard. So I wouldn't send another official one to Harvard, but sending them an unofficial one doesn't sound like a bad idea, if you think it will get there before the one from LSDAS. Good luck!

Liz21, I'm in love with your a/w/r theme. Fellow Bruce fan. :)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: liz21 on January 20, 2007, 05:52:44 PM


Liz21, I'm in love with your a/w/r theme. Fellow Bruce fan. :)

Thanks! Unfortunately I've only been able to see him once because my school is in the middle of nowhere. But I did see him in Philly two years ago on the Devils and Dust tour, and he was amazing. Hopefully wherever I'll end up in law school will be near a stop on a future tour!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on January 20, 2007, 09:29:26 PM


Liz21, I'm in love with your a/w/r theme. Fellow Bruce fan. :)

Thanks! Unfortunately I've only been able to see him once because my school is in the middle of nowhere. But I did see him in Philly two years ago on the Devils and Dust tour, and he was amazing. Hopefully wherever I'll end up in law school will be near a stop on a future tour!

I've seen him five times... every one better than the last! The last one was in Paris when I was abroad last spring for Seeger Sessions--omg.

Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: LSAT Granddad on January 21, 2007, 11:48:06 AM
where is my hold email? I certainlly hope that it will not be a rejection outright. >:(
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: kirsten11235 on January 23, 2007, 01:40:22 PM
I just received the “Hold” e-mail.  I am kind of happy about this, since I expected to be rejected.  I went complete on 12/07/06.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 23, 2007, 01:42:10 PM
Received my hold e-mail too, went complete same day as kirsten. They didn't even wait for the whole 8 weeks to be up! Is the timing unusual? I don't think I've heard of hold e-mails coming out on Tuesdays so far in the app cycle.

Guess I gotta start working on that Why Harvard essay.

Also, does this mean I can now officially start flirting with mpark? ;)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: spacecadette on January 23, 2007, 01:43:05 PM
I just received the “Hold” e-mail.  I am kind of happy about this, since I expected to be rejected.  I went complete on 12/07/06.

well then, heres hoping that by thurs i'll get one in my inbox too (complete 12.13)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mrk on January 23, 2007, 02:48:28 PM
I just got the email this afternoon- I didnt think my numbers were nearly good enough to be deferred!   ;D
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: LSAT Granddad on January 23, 2007, 04:48:04 PM
I just received the “Hold” e-mail.  I am kind of happy about this, since I expected to be rejected.  I went complete on 12/07/06.

well then, heres hoping that by thurs i'll get one in my inbox too (complete 12.13)
ah oh. Either mine is in line or my "R" is in the mail.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 23, 2007, 05:16:35 PM
Received my hold e-mail too, went complete same day as kirsten. They didn't even wait for the whole 8 weeks to be up! Is the timing unusual? I don't think I've heard of hold e-mails coming out on Tuesdays so far in the app cycle.

Guess I gotta start working on that Why Harvard essay.

Also, does this mean I can now officially start flirting with mpark? ;)

Hey how'd I miss this? Of course you can flirt with me, I'm becoming more like Hank everyday  :D

This post is upsetting to me in more than one way. 

 >:(

*jealous*
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 23, 2007, 05:26:07 PM
Hey how'd I miss this? Of course you can flirt with me, I'm becoming more like Hank everyday  :D

*flirts*

*eyes Hank nervously*
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 23, 2007, 05:30:38 PM
Hey how'd I miss this? Of course you can flirt with me, I'm becoming more like Hank everyday  :D

*flirts*

*eyes Hank nervously*

*punches mL4300 in the face*

*rides off into the sunset with mpark*
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ButImAGilmore on January 23, 2007, 06:30:35 PM
MPark, I must say I am jealous of you. Nobody flirts with me on LSD. Obviously I am no consolation prize.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 23, 2007, 06:35:38 PM
MPark, I must say I am jealous of you. Nobody flirts with me on LSD. Obviously I am no consolation prize.

That's cause you're the first place prize!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 23, 2007, 06:44:26 PM
MPark, I must say I am jealous of you. Nobody flirts with me on LSD. Obviously I am no consolation prize.

That's cause you're the first place prize!

Ouch talk about switching camps, mL - where's Hank?  :D

Hey, I'm just trying to keep all you ladies happy. ;)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 23, 2007, 07:12:25 PM
PSA: Publically declaring your allegiance to multiple ladies will often result in 0 ladies.

I think they're all gorgeous, what can I say?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 23, 2007, 07:25:02 PM
MPark, I must say I am jealous of you. Nobody flirts with me on LSD. Obviously I am no consolation prize.

That's cause you're the first place prize!

Ouch talk about switching camps, mL - where's Hank?  :D

Hey, I'm just trying to keep all you ladies happy. ;)

PSA: Publically declaring your allegiance to multiple ladies will often result in 0 ladies.

This has certainly not been my experience on LSD. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 23, 2007, 07:38:40 PM
Come now "Rita."  I have you wrapped around my little finger!

*cackles*
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ButImAGilmore on January 23, 2007, 07:51:05 PM
Haha. I leave for an hour and this becomes hilarious. Glad to hear I am the first place prize though  ;) Now if only a law school would feel that way!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 23, 2007, 07:53:04 PM
Haha. I leave for an hour and this becomes hilarious. Glad to hear I am the first place prize though  ;) Now if only a law school would feel that way!

How could anyone not want a Gilmore?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ButImAGilmore on January 23, 2007, 08:01:13 PM
I don't know. Ask NYU and Penn.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: TotsnHarvard on January 23, 2007, 08:41:23 PM

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Second answer: ballpark figure, 40-60%
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Here's to hoping that it's closer to 40 than 60... :-\
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: hereshopin on January 23, 2007, 08:47:42 PM
complete 12/7, held.

I don't think I'm going to bother with sending more stuff, i sent an updated transcript, already have 3 LOR's, and am completely content attending one of the schools i already got into. If they give me some love, great, if not, eh.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: mL4300ic on January 23, 2007, 10:17:26 PM
Should I wait to send in a letter of interest or should I go ahead and pull the trigger? I have a feeling my app won't be looked at again until March at the earliest.

I'm thinking of mentioning family ties to the area (not exactly Boston, but nearby in Rhode Island) as well as finding someone to write another letter of rec for me. Should I send in a writing sample as well? I was thinking of a 5 page creative writing piece I did just for the hell of it a few months back...
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: spacecadette on January 25, 2007, 12:59:30 PM
anyone that went complete on or after 12.13 get the hold email yet?!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: LSAT Granddad on January 26, 2007, 07:19:08 AM
Not much activity from H this week. ;)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: //// on January 26, 2007, 08:05:12 AM
oof- I was complete on 12/7 - so things aren't looking to good for me. A skinny letter now is better than later, I suppose (my wife is terrified of the possibility of a very late WL/acceptance that I can't refuse).  :P
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: LSAT Granddad on January 26, 2007, 09:50:09 AM
Finally, got mine today. ;D
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: jd2bee on January 29, 2007, 03:57:02 PM
approximately 35% of those deferred last year were accepted
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: LSAT Granddad on January 29, 2007, 04:26:14 PM
approximately 35% of those deferred last year were accepted
Hum, that is some hope.  ;D
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: johnromero on January 29, 2007, 04:56:45 PM
approximately 35% of those deferred last year were accepted

The e-mail mentions that it varies widely from year-to-year. Is that just some bull or was the acceptance rate for people deferred in 2004, 2003 radically different?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: 617 on January 29, 2007, 05:11:05 PM
approximately 35% of those deferred last year were accepted

Are you basing that figure on LSN?  Because if so I don't think that's a very representative sample.  35% sounds pretty high to me.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: jd2bee on January 29, 2007, 05:14:05 PM
I didn't come up with that number.  It's either earlier in this thread or in the Harvard Phone Interview thread, and I believe someone compiled it from LSN info.  Make of it what you will...

You're right - LSN isn't representative, but it's all we've got, and people prefer to hear speculation based on something than just, "who knows?" or speculation based on nothing.  Just my two cents.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: johnromero on January 29, 2007, 05:16:06 PM
approximately 35% of those deferred last year were accepted

Are you basing that figure on LSN?  Because if so I don't think that's a very representative sample.  35% sounds pretty high to me.

It's probably lower than 35% for the entire applicant pool put on hold. I'd estimate it to be somewhere around 10-20%, but that's pure speculation I just pulled out of my nether regions.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: erin2185 on January 30, 2007, 06:06:43 PM
On hold today, which I was kind of half expecting.  The other half was expecting a rejection, so I am half happy, and not crushed yet.  Harvard has not heard the last of me.  This is only the beginning....
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: johnromero on January 30, 2007, 06:40:59 PM
Are there any rumors about what kinds of materials Harvard likes to see come from deferred candidates?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: markasparov on January 31, 2007, 04:45:10 AM
Tag.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: johnromero on February 02, 2007, 06:31:16 AM
Are there any rumors about what kinds of materials Harvard likes to see come from deferred candidates?

The blood of your first-born.

*gets busy making baby*
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: {ashe} on February 02, 2007, 07:12:07 AM
Held this morning.  I went complete in Nov., had the phone interview on Dec. 19.  Considering my numbers, I'm happy not to get flat-out rejected...unfortunately, I don't have any updated grades to send, and an extra LOR seems like overkill (already sent 3).  Looks like it's the "Why Harvard" essay, then more waiting!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: dwcswpr on February 02, 2007, 09:14:44 PM
I got the hold email as well even though I have a 161 lsat.  This seems to be almost impossible, but I'll take it :)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: civicsclass on February 04, 2007, 03:25:04 PM
I got my hold email on Jan 12, almost exactly 8 weeks after I went complete.  I'm really curious about when people on hold will actually start to hear updates on their decision.  The email makes it sound as though we really might hear "any time" between now and late spring, but has anyone on hold heard any more news yet?  I'd be surprsied if they give most of us any news before mid-to-late March, seeing as they get such a huge batch of new applications to sift through the week applications are due. 

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: treppenwitz on February 04, 2007, 03:55:17 PM
I got my hold email on Jan 12, almost exactly 8 weeks after I went complete.  I'm really curious about when people on hold will actually start to hear updates on their decision.  The email makes it sound as though we really might hear "any time" between now and late spring, but has anyone on hold heard any more news yet?  I'd be surprsied if they give most of us any news before mid-to-late March, seeing as they get such a huge batch of new applications to sift through the week applications are due. 

What do you guys think?

Some people who were held in early January just received the interview e-mail this past Friday, so it looks like they are reviewing at least some of the applications on hold.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: treppenwitz on February 04, 2007, 04:48:19 PM
I think we are done for interviews.  The two people I know of who were accepted weeks after their interview (Szerena and j3l2l5) just received the acceptance call.  Those who they are thinking about rejecting might get a second interview, but I don't think they have time to do that: I suspect ultimately we are either getting a small envelope in the mail or a very exciting phone call.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: treppenwitz on February 04, 2007, 05:03:49 PM
Yeah, a statement of continued interest, an additional LOR, and my updated transcript as requested in the e-mail.  Did you?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: treppenwitz on February 04, 2007, 07:54:38 PM
Don't think we can do much more than that (and I'm pretty sure they don't want us to :D).  All in their hands now.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 04, 2007, 08:51:29 PM
Held this morning.  I went complete in Nov., had the phone interview on Dec. 19.  Considering my numbers, I'm happy not to get flat-out rejected...unfortunately, I don't have any updated grades to send, and an extra LOR seems like overkill (already sent 3).  Looks like it's the "Why Harvard" essay, then more waiting!

 :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 04, 2007, 09:06:34 PM
Held this morning.  I went complete in Nov., had the phone interview on Dec. 19.  Considering my numbers, I'm happy not to get flat-out rejected...unfortunately, I don't have any updated grades to send, and an extra LOR seems like overkill (already sent 3).  Looks like it's the "Why Harvard" essay, then more waiting!

 :-\ :-\ :-\

Hank stop it! Don't stress about holds before you've even had your interview. In fact, don't visit this particular thread anymore, it's bad juju!  :D

But I want to see your smiling face!

I dunno, I just can picture getting a hold.  It would be kind of a downer after my hopes have been raised. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: treppenwitz on February 04, 2007, 09:11:10 PM
Dude, you are in the best position possible short of 'accepted' - think positive.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 04, 2007, 09:13:11 PM
Yes OK.  I'll stop it. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 04, 2007, 09:16:35 PM
Yes OK.  I'll stop it. 

When you get into Harvard, will you convince T. Stock to take me and mpark off of the hold list? The incentive is that mpark and I will be your BFF's.

We will amply reward you  ;)

 :o

Scandalous! 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: treppenwitz on February 04, 2007, 09:17:28 PM
Hey, put in a good word for me too!  Either way, good luck :).
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: //// on February 08, 2007, 01:35:58 PM
Got mine today. I kept looking for the skinny, yet prestigious, rejection letter this week, given my 12/7 complete. Looks like I'll be waiting a little longer.

PS - I really love you Harvard. Since it was soo hard to send the skinny letter, why bother? Don't traumatize yourself. You don't even need to waste postage on the big one - I'll pick it up. Hell, I'll even write my own acceptance letter if you like!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: jalong on February 09, 2007, 07:49:06 AM
In the hold club.  This came as welcome news since CLS shattered my confidence a bit.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Brito on February 09, 2007, 11:48:29 AM
Yes OK.  I'll stop it. 

You'd better!  You've brought me down, too!   :D
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 09, 2007, 12:24:49 PM
Yes OK.  I'll stop it. 

You'd better!  You've brought me down, too!   :D

Phew, when I saw you posting in this thread I got worried!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: quizzle16 on February 09, 2007, 01:15:10 PM
Hold email today! Woohoo for not being an auto-ding
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Schruted on February 09, 2007, 01:34:40 PM
Add one more to the hold club. Bleh.

Is is true that we can expect about 35% of us to be accepted? Can someone please back up that statistic?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: BaLLin07 on February 09, 2007, 01:56:36 PM
On hold today. Heart raced for .5 seconds when I saw harvard law school in my inbox, then proceeded to shatter into tiny unprestigous shards
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 09, 2007, 02:51:22 PM
So has anyone been held in the last few days who did the phone interview?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on February 09, 2007, 03:10:37 PM
On hold too.  Kinda sad about it.

I'm kind of wondering why they sent me the hold email though.  I mean, I just went complete on January 11th, so they had ample time before the 2-month mark rolled around.  Why wouldn't they just keep waiting without telling me anything?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: EEtoJD on February 09, 2007, 03:15:28 PM
On hold today. Heart raced for .5 seconds when I saw harvard law school in my inbox, then proceeded to shatter into tiny unprestigous shards

This is the saddest thing I've read all day. So close to Valentine's Day (or as I like to call it, 214) too, what will you do?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: EEtoJD on February 09, 2007, 03:16:03 PM
On hold too.  Kinda sad about it.

I'm kind of wondering why they sent me the hold email though.  I mean, I just went complete on January 11th, so they had ample time before the 2-month mark rolled around.  Why wouldn't they just keep waiting without telling me anything?

Sorry to hear it. Did you have the phone interview?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on February 09, 2007, 03:21:39 PM
On hold too.  Kinda sad about it.

I'm kind of wondering why they sent me the hold email though.  I mean, I just went complete on January 11th, so they had ample time before the 2-month mark rolled around.  Why wouldn't they just keep waiting without telling me anything?

Sorry to hear it. Did you have the phone interview?

Nope. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: GoldenAfro on February 09, 2007, 09:48:07 PM
I was held today too. 12/21 complete batch. Yay for not being rejected! Of course I would be excited since it was a long shot anyway.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Evangeline on February 09, 2007, 09:56:41 PM
I was put on hold today too.  No interview.  I submitted my application on Dec. 7 and went complete on Jan. 11. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 09, 2007, 09:59:12 PM
Looks like they held a lot of people today. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Evangeline on February 09, 2007, 10:05:22 PM
So, what now?  I already submitted three LORs and wrote a Harvard-specific PS.  I have no new info to provide.  Is a letter of continued interest going to help me at this point?  Do I just reiterate what I said in my personal statement about why I heart HLS?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 09, 2007, 10:06:39 PM
So, what now?  I already submitted three LORs and wrote a Harvard-specific PS.  I have no new info to provide.  Is a letter of continued interest going to help me at this point?  Do I just reiterate what I said in my personal statement about why I heart HLS?

Maybe just a short paragraph about how Harvard is definitely your first choice, and maybe restate a couple of the reasons from your personal statement?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Senator on February 09, 2007, 10:07:03 PM
So, what now?  I already submitted three LORs and wrote a Harvard-specific PS.  I have no new info to provide.  Is a letter of continued interest going to help me at this point?  Do I just reiterate what I said in my personal statement about why I heart HLS?

Just send Toby a copy of your YLS acceptance letter . . . should do the trick. HTH.  ;)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Catherine Morland on February 09, 2007, 11:07:05 PM
So, what now?  I already submitted three LORs and wrote a Harvard-specific PS.  I have no new info to provide.  Is a letter of continued interest going to help me at this point?  Do I just reiterate what I said in my personal statement about why I heart HLS?

Just send Toby a copy of your YLS acceptance letter . . . should do the trick. HTH.  ;)

TITCR. Do you heart HLS more than YLS?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: bass on February 10, 2007, 06:57:19 AM
So, what now?  I already submitted three LORs and wrote a Harvard-specific PS.  I have no new info to provide.  Is a letter of continued interest going to help me at this point?  Do I just reiterate what I said in my personal statement about why I heart HLS?

If you really prefer YLS, then stop worrying about HLS.  If you really prefer HLS, then write a letter explaining that you are in at YLS but would much prefer to go to HLS (and why).  I did this.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: marathon587 on February 13, 2007, 08:32:23 AM
tag
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: //// on February 13, 2007, 10:42:48 AM
Does anyone think it is helpful for very borderline candidates to write a letter of interest or send writing samples etc? I have no more grades (graduated years ago) and they have 3 LoRs already (2 acad, 1 prof). It would think I'd be in the guaranteed-to-attend-if-admitted category already, but maybe that is presumptuous?

I'm ecstatic about my acceptances - but I would LOVE to move back to Cambridge.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: hereshopin on February 16, 2007, 12:16:23 AM
Does anyone think it is helpful for very borderline candidates to write a letter of interest or send writing samples etc? I have no more grades (graduated years ago) and they have 3 LoRs already (2 acad, 1 prof). It would think I'd be in the guaranteed-to-attend-if-admitted category already, but maybe that is presumptuous?

I'm ecstatic about my acceptances - but I would LOVE to move back to Cambridge.

qft
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: jalong on March 05, 2007, 07:04:17 PM
OK, I finished my "hold" letter.  Should I mail it or email it?  Double space or write it as a memo?  Help, quick!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: berntie on March 05, 2007, 07:10:27 PM
Does anyone think it is helpful for very borderline candidates to write a letter of interest or send writing samples etc? I have no more grades (graduated years ago) and they have 3 LoRs already (2 acad, 1 prof). It would think I'd be in the guaranteed-to-attend-if-admitted category already, but maybe that is presumptuous?

I'm ecstatic about my acceptances - but I would LOVE to move back to Cambridge.

Even if it doesn't help, it won't hurt. I say go for it and send in a letter of continued interest or a really good writing sample if you have something ready or something you can whip up easily.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: jalong on March 05, 2007, 07:21:07 PM
OK, I finished my "hold" letter.  Should I mail it or email it?  Double space or write it as a memo?  Help, quick!

You need to smail-mail it. I actually called the admissions office before I send my LOCI, and they send that they can't accept anything like that over email.

Thanks shanny, Doublespace or memo?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 05, 2007, 08:00:18 PM
If I get waitlisted, I'll probably send a writing sample, or maybe my Yale 250, and I'll also send a short letter saying that I will go to HLS because I want to be with Brito and Shanny. 

How sad is it that I am already thinking of things to send to HLS when they defer me?   :(
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: civicsclass on March 13, 2007, 08:43:00 PM
They've got to phone interview with/let in a FEW deferred people by the end of March, right?  Riiight?  Gr, Harvard. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: well eggy on March 15, 2007, 10:51:42 AM
If I get waitlisted, I'll probably send a writing sample, or maybe my Yale 250, and I'll also send a short letter saying that I will go to HLS because I want to be with Brito and Shanny. 

How sad is it that I am already thinking of things to send to HLS when they defer me?   :(

Hank, what happened with Harvard since your chat with Dean Stock?  Any contact?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Princessa1 on March 15, 2007, 11:11:14 AM
I was put on hold sometime around Jan 10. Within the next week I wrote them a letter of continued interest (I already explained why I thought Harvard was a good fit in my admissions essay but I explained some personal ties to the area) as well as a writing sample (undergraduate journal article). I also asked for an additional rec from one of my profs as well as a rec from my current employer who is a prominent prof at HBS(i don't know how much this connection helped). Around Feb 2 I recieved the phone call email. On Feb 8 I had my call (which went horribly bc I was in a different country and it was 7:30 am there). Feb 13th I was accepted. My overall advice is a) convince them you will go if admitted and b) send them whatever additional materials you may have that make you look better (this is obvious but I know some people worry about sending too much, I think if you are on hold the limit for too much is quite a bit higher). Hope this helps. Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 15, 2007, 11:18:28 AM
If I get waitlisted, I'll probably send a writing sample, or maybe my Yale 250, and I'll also send a short letter saying that I will go to HLS because I want to be with Brito and Shanny. 

How sad is it that I am already thinking of things to send to HLS when they defer me?   :(

Hank, what happened with Harvard since your chat with Dean Stock?  Any contact?

Nope--I haven't heard anything.  I'm hoping they'll get back to me though.   :-\
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: well eggy on March 15, 2007, 11:25:34 AM
If I get waitlisted, I'll probably send a writing sample, or maybe my Yale 250, and I'll also send a short letter saying that I will go to HLS because I want to be with Brito and Shanny. 

How sad is it that I am already thinking of things to send to HLS when they defer me?   :(

Hank, what happened with Harvard since your chat with Dean Stock?  Any contact?

Nope--I haven't heard anything.  I'm hoping they'll get back to me though.   :-\

It's surprising you haven't yet heard.  I'm just hoping the phone call email reaches me before a rejection letter does!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 15, 2007, 11:28:37 AM
Eh, I just want to know where I'm going for sure, but I still have the feeling a waitlist is in my future. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Slow Children At Play on March 15, 2007, 11:47:27 AM
I was put on hold sometime around Jan 10. Within the next week I wrote them a letter of continued interest (I already explained why I thought Harvard was a good fit in my admissions essay but I explained some personal ties to the area) as well as a writing sample (undergraduate journal article). I also asked for an additional rec from one of my profs as well as a rec from my current employer who is a prominent prof at HBS(i don't know how much this connection helped). Around Feb 2 I recieved the phone call email. On Feb 8 I had my call (which went horribly bc I was in a different country and it was 7:30 am there). Feb 13th I was accepted. My overall advice is a) convince them you will go if admitted and b) send them whatever additional materials you may have that make you look better (this is obvious but I know some people worry about sending too much, I think if you are on hold the limit for too much is quite a bit higher). Hope this helps. Good luck everyone!

So, if you get into Yale, it's just a feather in your cap, right??  You aren't really considering it, right??? :P
Nahh, I'm just screwing around, congrats on the admit!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Princessa1 on March 15, 2007, 01:43:18 PM
I said convince them that you will go not that you neccessarily would.
I did not tell them that I would go if admitted. I did tell them that it was a top choice and I mentioned several personal reasons that make me want to stay in the Boston area. I don't think I will get into Yale and even if I did I am not sure that I would go.BUT yes I would consider it. Still, even if Yale were one's top choice, a good would-be lawyer should still be able to convince an admissions person that they would LOVE to go to Harvard.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on March 15, 2007, 02:00:21 PM
I was held, and I didn't send anything extra in at all.  Just like Princess, I got the phone-call e-mail and was subsequently admitted about 3 weeks ago.  I'm not sure that one really needs to send additional materials in all cases -- Havard isn't worried about yield, last time I checked.  However, if there is a deficiency in your app, then an extra essay is appropriate.  But if the essay/letter you send out will just basically contain the same information, then I don't think sending anything out will do much good.

Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 15, 2007, 02:02:16 PM
I was held, and I didn't send anything extra in at all.  Just like Princess, I got the phone-call e-mail and was subsequently admitted about 3 weeks ago.  I'm not sure that one really needs to send additional materials in all cases -- Havard isn't worried about yield, last time I checked.  However, if there is a deficiency in your app, then an extra essay is appropriate.  But if the essay/letter you send out will just basically contain the same information, then I don't think sending anything out will do much good.



Numbers?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: krockband on March 15, 2007, 04:48:17 PM
I'm not sure that one really needs to send additional materials in all cases -- Havard isn't worried about yield, last time I checked.

You're right. Toby Stock said as much in the HLS admission blog...they will accept who they want to, and they've got enough great applicants that sending in additional material doesn't seem to sway their decision that much.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Princessa1 on March 15, 2007, 09:11:47 PM
I'm not sure that one really needs to send additional materials in all cases -- Havard isn't worried about yield, last time I checked.

You're right. Toby Stock said as much in the HLS admission blog...they will accept who they want to, and they've got enough great applicants that sending in additional material doesn't seem to sway their decision that much.
But in the hold email it does say
" If you have a special interest in attending Harvard or in being located in Cambridge, please feel free to tell us about that as well. "
I mean I don't think there is something you need to do but I was just saying what worked for me. In any case I'd rather do too much than not enough, but that is just how I am.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: themanwithoutaname on March 15, 2007, 09:49:43 PM
So, I'd love to know- when was the last "Hold" letter sent? 

I wish I was on hold- as it is, my application has been complete since Dec. 13th, and I've heard nothing.  Does that mean rejection?  I called the admissions office, and he said they simply haven't made a decision yet, but that it is strange it's been more than three months.

Is there any chance I could be put on hold?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: newtothis on March 16, 2007, 02:37:00 AM
So, I'd love to know- when was the last "Hold" letter sent? 

I wish I was on hold- as it is, my application has been complete since Dec. 13th, and I've heard nothing.  Does that mean rejection?  I called the admissions office, and he said they simply haven't made a decision yet, but that it is strange it's been more than three months.

Is there any chance I could be put on hold?

I'm also wondering if it's better to be placed on hold or to not hear at all. I get the feeling that being placed on hold is better than not hearing at all (assuming similar app/complete dates, of course).
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: camilla08 on March 16, 2007, 07:14:06 AM
I'm new to this, but I've been creeping around LSD for a while now, so here's what I can contribute... I emailed Harvard last week to ask when decisions on "holds" are made, and this was what I got back:

"To address your question, the vast majority of students who are on hold will hear from us at some point during the month of April, and it is extraordinarily unlikely that anyone would hear from us after the first week of May."

I've applied for a joint degree at Harvard, and I've been accepted to the other half, so I was wondering how long I would have to wait from HLS, since eventually I have to accept the offer from the other program.

This sort of made me feel better...and sort of not....I'm getting impatient.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Princessa1 on March 16, 2007, 09:14:23 AM
I'm new to this, but I've been creeping around LSD for a while now, so here's what I can contribute... I emailed Harvard last week to ask when decisions on "holds" are made, and this was what I got back:

"To address your question, the vast majority of students who are on hold will hear from us at some point during the month of April, and it is extraordinarily unlikely that anyone would hear from us after the first week of May."

I've applied for a joint degree at Harvard, and I've been accepted to the other half, so I was wondering how long I would have to wait from HLS, since eventually I have to accept the offer from the other program.

This sort of made me feel better...and sort of not....I'm getting impatient.
just curious...what program did you apply to?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Max Fischer on March 16, 2007, 10:58:25 AM
"To address your question, the vast majority of students who are on hold will hear from us at some point during the month of April"

In other words, that's when they generally reject/waitlist holds.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: camilla08 on March 16, 2007, 11:13:30 AM
I'm new to this, but I've been creeping around LSD for a while now, so here's what I can contribute... I emailed Harvard last week to ask when decisions on "holds" are made, and this was what I got back:

"To address your question, the vast majority of students who are on hold will hear from us at some point during the month of April, and it is extraordinarily unlikely that anyone would hear from us after the first week of May."

I've applied for a joint degree at Harvard, and I've been accepted to the other half, so I was wondering how long I would have to wait from HLS, since eventually I have to accept the offer from the other program.

This sort of made me feel better...and sort of not....I'm getting impatient.
just curious...what program did you apply to?

JD/MPH with the Harvard School of Public Health

And Harvard's the only law school I applied to...I actually thought the MPH would be the hard part (they only accepted 10 people), but apparently not.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: jalong on March 16, 2007, 11:29:31 AM
I'm not sure that one really needs to send additional materials in all cases -- Havard isn't worried about yield, last time I checked.

You're right. Toby Stock said as much in the HLS admission blog...they will accept who they want to, and they've got enough great applicants that sending in additional material doesn't seem to sway their decision that much.
But in the hold email it does say
" If you have a special interest in attending Harvard or in being located in Cambridge, please feel free to tell us about that as well. "
I mean I don't think there is something you need to do but I was just saying what worked for me. In any case I'd rather do too much than not enough, but that is just how I am.

I took the Hold email as an invitation to send additional stuff that might not have sent in the first round.  You don't have to, and it probably won't hurt if you send nothing additionally, but I thought for my application, it might be a good time for something resembling a GPA addendum.  I argued that they just need to pretend that my degree GPA is actually my LSAC GPA and let me in.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on March 17, 2007, 03:45:03 PM
I don't like Harvard anymore.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 17, 2007, 03:48:58 PM
I don't like Harvard anymore.

Well we like you!

 :-*
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on March 17, 2007, 04:03:11 PM
I don't like Harvard anymore.

Any particular reason?

Probably the same reason I hate Yale, Harvard, NYU, and Chicago.   >:(

Pretty much.  I applied to eight or nine schools, and have still only heard back from three of them.  I have to decide by April 2nd for this scholarship thing, so I'll be making a decision without ever hearing from most of the schools I applied to.

I sent Harvard an email a couple of weeks ago telling them about scholarships and how it would help me to have a decision to them by the end of the month, but of course they don't acknowledge that with a response.

Edit: Apparently I only applied to 7 schools.  Still.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on March 17, 2007, 04:06:50 PM
I sent Harvard an email a couple of weeks ago telling them about scholarships and how it would help me to have a decision to them by the end of the month, but of course they don't acknowledge that with a response.

I sent Harvard some extra material after they put me on Hold, and they can't even acknowledge that they received it.   ::)

Just annoying because the only schools that might sway me from my current first choice are the ones I haven't heard from.

Word.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: krockband on March 17, 2007, 04:38:53 PM
I sent Harvard an email a couple of weeks ago telling them about scholarships and how it would help me to have a decision to them by the end of the month, but of course they don't acknowledge that with a response.

I sent Harvard some extra material after they put me on Hold, and they can't even acknowledge that they received it.   ::)

Just annoying because the only schools that might sway me from my current first choice are the ones I haven't heard from.

Ditto.

Threeto.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on March 18, 2007, 10:06:52 AM
I sent Harvard an email a couple of weeks ago telling them about scholarships and how it would help me to have a decision to them by the end of the month, but of course they don't acknowledge that with a response.

I sent Harvard some extra material after they put me on Hold, and they can't even acknowledge that they received it.   ::)

Just annoying because the only schools that might sway me from my current first choice are the ones I haven't heard from.

Ditto.

Threeto.

Fourto. At least the Gtown GLS letters are coming out late this coming week, so I'll know exactly where I'm going once I have that letter ... except, of course, that I have to wait until Harvard dings me. Ugh.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on March 18, 2007, 10:50:14 AM
I sent Harvard an email a couple of weeks ago telling them about scholarships and how it would help me to have a decision to them by the end of the month, but of course they don't acknowledge that with a response.

I sent Harvard some extra material after they put me on Hold, and they can't even acknowledge that they received it.   ::)

Just annoying because the only schools that might sway me from my current first choice are the ones I haven't heard from.

Ditto.

Threeto.

Fourto. At least the Gtown GLS letters are coming out late this coming week, so I'll know exactly where I'm going once I have that letter ... except, of course, that I have to wait until Harvard dings me. Ugh.

What's your language?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on March 18, 2007, 02:35:09 PM
I sent Harvard an email a couple of weeks ago telling them about scholarships and how it would help me to have a decision to them by the end of the month, but of course they don't acknowledge that with a response.

I sent Harvard some extra material after they put me on Hold, and they can't even acknowledge that they received it.   ::)

Just annoying because the only schools that might sway me from my current first choice are the ones I haven't heard from.

Ditto.

Threeto.

Fourto. At least the Gtown GLS letters are coming out late this coming week, so I'll know exactly where I'm going once I have that letter ... except, of course, that I have to wait until Harvard dings me. Ugh.

What's your language?

Spanish and French. :)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on March 18, 2007, 02:37:53 PM
I sent Harvard an email a couple of weeks ago telling them about scholarships and how it would help me to have a decision to them by the end of the month, but of course they don't acknowledge that with a response.

I sent Harvard some extra material after they put me on Hold, and they can't even acknowledge that they received it.   ::)

Just annoying because the only schools that might sway me from my current first choice are the ones I haven't heard from.

Ditto.

Threeto.

Fourto. At least the Gtown GLS letters are coming out late this coming week, so I'll know exactly where I'm going once I have that letter ... except, of course, that I have to wait until Harvard dings me. Ugh.

Is the GLS program really going to determine where you go to school?  I was a little disappointed once I talked to people in it that there wasn't a little more to the whole thing. 

I really, really want to do IL. Yes, you can take 5 of the 7 credits for it without being in the program, but from what I've gathered, it's the networking opportunities in DC and the resume building that are really worth it.

I really want to do (haha, look at all those wants) some special IL program, and I can't do a summer session so Duke's JD/LLM is out. UVa has a program in Paris that would be PERFECT for me, but since I do both Spanish and French I don't want to lock myself into that box (a box that is relatively far away from the job opportunities in DC) yet. I dunno--I visited both this past week and would be supremely comfortable at either place, so I'm really not going to lose out here. :)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: well eggy on March 23, 2007, 08:43:53 AM
Bump.  Only 5 Def/Accepted on LSN, and no Def/Rejected.  Looks like they've been sending out rejection waves.  Predictions on when the deferred pile will see some action again?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 23, 2007, 10:02:00 AM
yes, im curious about this, too... i'm expecting a rejection of course, but it would be nice to know *when* that will happen.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Sooner on March 23, 2007, 12:07:46 PM
This is odd. There were 20 def--->accepted LSN profiles last year, and most of the action was in March. This year, there are only 6 so far, and none of the action has been in March. Perhaps H is now where it wants to be on admits. Either that, or H is lagging behind where it was at this time last year in the admissions cycle. I'm surprised by the lack of activity in March, and I'm now expecting that the admit activity for deferred candidates will be minimal.   

2004-2005: 6 def--->accepted per LSN
2003-2004: 2 def--->accepted per LSN

I know it seems a lot of people were deferred this year (too many for there not to be more acceptances), but last year's acceptance rate for deferred people is starting to seem like an aberration for HLS.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: well eggy on March 23, 2007, 12:33:30 PM
The new ABA rule may reduce the predictive value of prior years, too.

I think there are still spots left, precisely because of the large amount of deferrals per LSN and the noticeable lack of waitlisted applicants.  Once the waitlists start rolling, then I think the acceptances will have all but dried up.

Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: camilla08 on March 23, 2007, 04:18:47 PM
Bump.  Only 5 Def/Accepted on LSN, and no Def/Rejected.  Looks like they've been sending out rejection waves.  Predictions on when the deferred pile will see some action again?

I posted this before, a page back, but this is the answer I got from HLS admissions when I asked them that question....

"To address your question, the vast majority of students who are on hold will hear from us at some point during the month of April, and it is extraordinarily unlikely that anyone would hear from us after the first week of May."

Different than last year it seems.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: krockband on March 23, 2007, 04:43:32 PM
I'm treating my H hold like a rejection. Waitlist at best.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: jalong on March 24, 2007, 06:33:29 AM
I'm treating my H hold like a rejection. Waitlist at best.

I'm treating mine like an acceptance.  I wonder if sneaking into Harvard is much harder than sneaking into a club.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 24, 2007, 12:14:58 PM
Hey for those on hold at Harvard, I just got my rejection.  I have been on hold since January I believe, and I just got my answer.  Good luck to the rest of you, I hope you will hear better news.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: civicsclass on March 24, 2007, 12:31:13 PM
I've also been on hold since January, but I got accepted yesterday (!!!).  Looks like people may finally start to get some answers!

Good luck, everyone.  :D
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on March 24, 2007, 12:46:00 PM
I've also been on hold since January, but I got accepted yesterday (!!!).  Looks like people may finally start to get some answers!

Good luck, everyone.  :D

Did you get a phone call? (probably, i would assume) When was that?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ricflair on March 24, 2007, 01:37:09 PM
Hey for those on hold at Harvard, I just got my rejection.  I have been on hold since January I believe, and I just got my answer.  Good luck to the rest of you, I hope you will hear better news.

Snail or e-mail?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: elidad on March 24, 2007, 02:16:55 PM
Also interested in knowing if civicsclass had a phone interview first or accepted straight off hold.  And what were your LSAT/GPA - roughly if you would prefer not to disclose?  Thks.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ivy07 on March 24, 2007, 02:19:40 PM
Also interested in knowing if civicsclass had a phone interview first or accepted straight off hold.  And what were your LSAT/GPA - roughly if you would prefer not to disclose?  Thks.

get out of here loser. your slutty daughter is going to suck tons of d*ck next year regardless of where she ends up. get a life.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: 617 on March 24, 2007, 02:20:59 PM
Also interested in knowing if civicsclass had a phone interview first or accepted straight off hold.  And what were your LSAT/GPA - roughly if you would prefer not to disclose?  Thks.

get out of here loser. your slutty daughter is going to suck tons of d*ck next year regardless of where she ends up. get a life.

Good lord.  Eaaaaaasy cowboy.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: elidad on March 24, 2007, 02:24:20 PM
Where are you in Ivy?  I'm hoping she's well ahead of you and going to a different school.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ivy07 on March 24, 2007, 02:25:51 PM
Where are you in Ivy?  I'm hoping she's well ahead of you and going to a different school.

don't worry pops, she will be licking my johnson by the end of the first week of school. I might f*ck your wife too if you are nice to me.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ivy07 on March 24, 2007, 02:27:42 PM
Also interested in knowing if civicsclass had a phone interview first or accepted straight off hold.  And what were your LSAT/GPA - roughly if you would prefer not to disclose?  Thks.

get out of here loser. your slutty daughter is going to suck tons of d*ck next year regardless of where she ends up. get a life.

ha, ivy, you're really having a good time today, huh?

 ;)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: prolesurge on March 24, 2007, 03:14:52 PM
Hey for those on hold at Harvard, I just got my rejection.  I have been on hold since January I believe, and I just got my answer.  Good luck to the rest of you, I hope you will hear better news.

Where do you live?
I'm out in California, but home for spring break-so I'm wondering if I should call the roommate to see if I have a small letter waiting for me.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 24, 2007, 04:29:52 PM
I am in New York, got the letter today.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: krockband on March 24, 2007, 05:08:55 PM
I am in New York, got the letter today.

Sorry to hear that. I'm now expecting my DING letter any day now.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: BobTheHunter on March 24, 2007, 07:54:18 PM
I also got my acceptance yesterday. And, sorry for the bad news, but Toby happened to mention that it was one of the last ones.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 24, 2007, 07:56:43 PM
I also got my acceptance yesterday. And, sorry for the bad news, but Toby happened to mention that it was one of the last ones.

 >:(

 :'(
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: hereshopin on March 24, 2007, 08:16:54 PM
Just got the ding today via snail mail.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 25, 2007, 06:55:34 AM
I also got my acceptance yesterday. And, sorry for the bad news, but Toby happened to mention that it was one of the last ones.

what do you mean he mentioned it? in a letter, via phone?.. (congrats, btw!) haha
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Max Fischer on March 25, 2007, 08:49:02 AM
I also got my acceptance yesterday. And, sorry for the bad news, but Toby happened to mention that it was one of the last ones.

Did you take that to mean that Harvard won't be making any more acceptances until they head to the waitlist this spring/summer?

Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: theprofessor on March 25, 2007, 12:06:57 PM
I also got my acceptance yesterday. And, sorry for the bad news, but Toby happened to mention that it was one of the last ones.

Sorry I don't believe you. Not that I don't think that Harvard is on the latter stages of accepting people, but I don't believe that Toby would divulge something like that. Also, I don't know why he would tell you. Seems like it would be somewhat insulting even though it is sort of obvious.

I have no trouble believing this. I am sure the man is tactful enough to say this in an appropriate, non-insulting way.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Saja on March 25, 2007, 12:19:34 PM
I think people are in Harvardenial.;)

I'm ready for my rejection...I guess it would, in some ways, be better than a waitlist, because then I wouldn't have that, "I'm going to x school, but I don't know what would happen if I got into H" mentality.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ferbear on March 25, 2007, 12:21:55 PM
Haha, I think I'm about ready to withdraw rather than give them the satisfaction of dinging me or continuing to defer me into oblivion. Fuckers.  ;D
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 25, 2007, 12:23:37 PM
I think people are in Harvardenial.;)

I'm ready for my rejection...I guess it would, in some ways, be better than a waitlist, because then I wouldn't have that, "I'm going to x school, but I don't know what would happen if I got into H" mentality.

 :D

I haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about!
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Saja on March 25, 2007, 12:36:48 PM
I think people are in Harvardenial.;)

I'm ready for my rejection...I guess it would, in some ways, be better than a waitlist, because then I wouldn't have that, "I'm going to x school, but I don't know what would happen if I got into H" mentality.

 :D

I haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about!

Ha, no Hank, you, never.;)

(For the record, if I *am* waitlisted, I will stay on it.)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: krockband on March 25, 2007, 12:44:41 PM
I'm going to stay on until the bitter end. I will make them expend the effort to ding me.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 25, 2007, 01:25:56 PM
Victory or death.

Death in my case being University of Chicago or Columbia.   ::)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 25, 2007, 01:32:41 PM
Columbia or UMich full ride for me.



You poor thing.  How will you survive?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Saja on March 25, 2007, 01:40:57 PM
Columbia or UMich full ride for me.



You poor thing.  How will you survive?

"A Hard Knock Life" plays in the background...
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: bohemian_revolution on March 25, 2007, 02:09:25 PM
I'm not deferred but I'm sure mine is probably on it's way, it needs to hurry up.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on March 25, 2007, 03:45:07 PM
Columbia or UMich full ride for me.



You poor thing.  How will you survive?

I won't.  Hence victory or death.


Prime the transfer application?

Go to Columbia.

EDIT: I thought we were talking about the country.  Jury's still out on the quality of Columbia University's cocaine.  As you were..

 ::) :-\
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: treppenwitz on March 25, 2007, 04:40:06 PM
Closure is overrated ;). 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Saja on March 25, 2007, 04:43:38 PM
Well, there's always the "Waitlisted at Harvard" thread to look forward to over the dog days of summer.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: treppenwitz on March 25, 2007, 04:50:12 PM
only if it's bad closure! good closure, totally different story :)

I don't see how getting rejected is going to be good in any way :(.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Saja on March 25, 2007, 04:57:39 PM
Well, there's always the "Waitlisted at Harvard" thread to look forward to over the dog days of summer.

If i get rejected, I'm staying on it - they'll have to be just as persistent in rejecting me

only if it's bad closure! good closure, totally different story :)

I don't see how getting rejected is going to be good in any way :(.

Good closure = accept
Bad  closure = waitlist/reject

This reminds me of the good naked/bad naked Seinfeld.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 25, 2007, 05:24:58 PM
I propose that everyone on LSD refuses to acknowledge receipt of a Harvard rejection letter.

It sounds like mpark would just keep sending stuff to Harvard.  Hah...they send her a rejection letter, and she sends them her thesis. 
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Saja on March 25, 2007, 05:43:24 PM
Better yet, why doesn't everyone just show up the first day of class?  Someone could photoshop a few acceptance letters, and by the time Harvard figured it out, we'd be done exams.  Could they really kick us out then?;)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Sooner on March 26, 2007, 09:58:16 AM
This is exciting. I am anxiously awaiting my rejection letter. I have actually already made my choice, and a H rejection would basically remove all potential guilt from my decision.

It would be good to know that I'm just not good enough to be a Harvard man  ::)   :)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 26, 2007, 11:00:49 AM
yea.. i mean... i guess for those of us who are not rejected in the next few days, we should probably just expect to get waitlisted...

it's really not impacting my choices at this point. just curious.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: jalong on March 26, 2007, 11:11:07 AM
This is exciting. I am anxiously awaiting my rejection letter. I have actually already made my choice, and a H rejection would basically remove all potential guilt from my decision.

It would be good to know that I'm just not good enough to be a Harvard man  ::)   :)

Wouldn't it be better to know that you ARE good enough but chose Chicago instead?  That is way cooler, but only if you don't tell people.  You have to have other close friends who know this about you and they can tell other people.  If you tell people yourself then you just sound like you are at show and tell.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Sooner on March 26, 2007, 11:33:56 AM
Wouldn't it be better to know that you ARE good enough but chose Chicago instead?  That is way cooler, but only if you don't tell people.  You have to have other close friends who know this about you and they can tell other people.  If you tell people yourself then you just sound like you are at show and tell.

Yes, I suppose it would be better to know with certainty I am in fact that un-whorish and trailblazing. But am I? If I get the coveted rejection letter, I can still claim so but will never have to prove it. What an awesome deal. I'll just have my friends spread other rumors about my nebulous past.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 26, 2007, 11:39:25 AM
i just don't understand why they aren't dumping a whole boat load of rejections on us already... since they've started i would anticipate a wave. wouldn't you?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: sentimentalhygienist on March 26, 2007, 11:46:11 AM
Yeah, I haven't been home this weekend, so there may well be a thin, thin envelope waiting for me there tonight.

Well, I didn't get mine yet, and I'm in the bay area too. Perhaps today's mail.

What if you get in?  You're not going to forsake Boalt, are you?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: sillyberry on March 26, 2007, 11:49:13 AM
i just don't understand why they aren't dumping a whole boat load of rejections on us already... since they've started i would anticipate a wave. wouldn't you?

I want to ride the Crimson wave!

Errr....nevermind.

Good god I heart you.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on March 26, 2007, 11:51:09 AM
I'll go ahead and post in this thread. My reasoning is that I too am held; they just never notified me.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: sillyberry on March 26, 2007, 12:00:20 PM
Yeah, I haven't been home this weekend, so there may well be a thin, thin envelope waiting for me there tonight.

Well, I didn't get mine yet, and I'm in the bay area too. Perhaps today's mail.

What if you get in?  You're not going to forsake Boalt, are you?

Haha. Probably not (easy to say now, of course!), but it feels rude to discuss it in this thread. This is the place for H love!

In the interest of not being rude, you could have acknowledged my menstruation/Clueless combo joke.  I was hoping for at least +10 points.

EDIT: My darling Sillyberry comes to the rescue.  I hate joking into the void. So much stress involved.

I was going to! There was so much going on...

Translation: I have tandoori chicken all over my fingers and 47 samosas stuffed into my mouth.

The threads are collapsing in on each other!

Remember when WASAC would sell samosas in Schneider?  Those were the days...
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: sillyberry on March 26, 2007, 12:05:01 PM
Yeah, I haven't been home this weekend, so there may well be a thin, thin envelope waiting for me there tonight.

Well, I didn't get mine yet, and I'm in the bay area too. Perhaps today's mail.

What if you get in?  You're not going to forsake Boalt, are you?

Haha. Probably not (easy to say now, of course!), but it feels rude to discuss it in this thread. This is the place for H love!

In the interest of not being rude, you could have acknowledged my menstruation/Clueless combo joke.  I was hoping for at least +10 points.

EDIT: My darling Sillyberry comes to the rescue.  I hate joking into the void. So much stress involved.

I was going to! There was so much going on...

Translation: I have tandoori chicken all over my fingers and 47 samosas stuffed into my mouth.

The threads are collapsing in on each other!

Remember when WASAC would sell samosas in Schneider?  Those were the days...

You guys didn't know each other, did you? You didn't, like, play on the field hockey team together or anything? 

Clarification: I don't mean 'field hockey' in the derogative sense.

"Field Hockey" is a euphemism for "lesbian orgy," isn't it?

Goalie never had the good fortune of knowing me.  I can tell she's devastated.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: sentimentalhygienist on March 26, 2007, 01:02:29 PM
Yeah, I haven't been home this weekend, so there may well be a thin, thin envelope waiting for me there tonight.

Well, I didn't get mine yet, and I'm in the bay area too. Perhaps today's mail.

What if you get in?  You're not going to forsake Boalt, are you?

Haha. Probably not (easy to say now, of course!), but it feels rude to discuss it in this thread. This is the place for H love!

Harvard already gets too much love, according to some. (wink wink nudge nudge)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070322/ap_on_re_us/harvard_abstinence_3
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: krockband on March 27, 2007, 05:10:16 PM
*gnashes teeth at GPA*

Yeah, we be screwed, man.

Count me in the screwed pile.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Socraotes on March 27, 2007, 05:18:01 PM
I need to find a way to go back in time and convince myself to take up English instead of mathematics.  ;)

My LSAT/GPA is similar to your's: 3.59/177. I hope things go well for us. You're going to ASW this week at CLS, right?
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Team Pam on March 27, 2007, 09:27:43 PM
Tagging, since the complete-for-over-8-weeks people seem to be mixing it up with the held people in here.  :)
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: newtothis on March 27, 2007, 09:52:10 PM
Tagging, since the complete-for-over-8-weeks people seem to be mixing it up with the held people in here.  :)

We'll probably all end up the same at this point.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Team Pam on March 27, 2007, 10:13:40 PM
Tagging, since the complete-for-over-8-weeks people seem to be mixing it up with the held people in here.  :)

We'll probably all end up the same at this point.

I eagerly await my waitlist letter.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: perfect pint on March 28, 2007, 12:15:59 PM
And I am officially a part of the deferred, rejected club. Got the ding letter in the mail today, postmarked last Wednesday. I live in NYC. Small cream envelope.

Actually relieved that I don't even have to think about what I would do if I got in anymore.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 28, 2007, 01:03:46 PM
eek

<===== nervous to check mail
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on March 28, 2007, 01:08:04 PM
seriously.  i could have sworn my rejection was coming on monday.  i could feel it in my bones.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: GovtLackey on March 28, 2007, 01:35:15 PM
Got the ding today (post-deferral).  It's funny, I used to read the "It's just a relief to finally hear" comments and think it was bullsht, but I have the same feeling now -- I'm too tired of the process to be particularly disappointed.  Good luck to the remaining, of course . . .
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: jd2bee on March 28, 2007, 01:36:39 PM
And I am officially a part of the deferred, rejected club. Got the ding letter in the mail today, postmarked last Wednesday. I live in NYC. Small cream envelope.

Actually relieved that I don't even have to think about what I would do if I got in anymore.

Me too - got my letter yesterday! Not as disappointed as I thought I'd be though

This blows.  No seriously, it blows.  I could have seen us trekking through the snow together in Boston.  Argh.  Tobemeister - you made a mistake.
Title: Re: "On Hold" at Harvard
Post by: jd2bee on March 28, 2007, 01:38:52 PM
And I am officially a part of the deferred, rejected club. Got the ding letter in the mail today, postmarked last Wednesday. I live in NYC. Small cream envelope.

Actually relieved that I don't even have to think about what I would do if I got in anymore.

Me too - got my letter yesterday! Not as disappointed as I thought I'd be though

This blows.  No seriously, it blows.  I could have seen us trekking through the snow together in Boston.  Argh.  Tobemeister - you made a mistake.

I know - I'm sad that you'll be in Boston without me! :( :'(

Hey, why did you w/d from Columbia?