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Specific Groups => Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students => Topic started by: darrow on December 29, 2006, 10:26:00 PM

Title: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: darrow on December 29, 2006, 10:26:00 PM
First, I am amazed by the number of non-traditionals there are on this board! It is so encouraging.

I am 43 and currently pursuing my BA so that I can go to law school. My areas of interest are poverty, public, intellectual, and constitutional law. Years ago, I was in pre-law (political science) and a combination of a couple of friends dying, my college closing, and dealing with my own sexuality, diverted my path from following in the footsteps of my childhood hero, Clarence Darrow.

I had always "planned" to return to school. But one thing led to another and I entered the computer world, which I love. Then a few years ago, a few things happened that made me reassess my life and reawakened my childhood dream. My long-term relationship ended, I served on jury duty, I had some serious health issues, and an eighteen year old kid got thrown in jail for having a link to an anarchist site on his anti-Iraq war website.

I could see my path very clearly, and knew it was time to fulfill the promise I had made to myself long ago. I have so much faith in the law, in our U.S. Constitution. I want to be a part of the process that ensures that our nation continues to move toward the higher principles upon which it was founded—a more perfect union where everyone can sit at the table.

Still an idealist…
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: paul1454 on December 30, 2006, 09:43:45 AM
I know it sounds cliché, but I am going to law school, not so much for the career prospects but for the knowledge gained.  As a CPA in a public accounting firm, I spend a great deal of time sifting through Internal Revenue Code and Treasury Regulations. While the majority of my colleagues search for someone else's interpretation of specific legal matters, I desire the ability to understand without such interpretation. 

Although it may be overly ambitious, I believe law school will help mold my manner of thinking, in turn, making me a more self-reliant, capable, and competent tax practitioner. 

 
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: kmarty on December 30, 2006, 09:59:23 AM
I'm going because it's what I've always said I wanted to do and I finally feel like it's time for me to do it.  I was a teen mom and went to college on a full ride to play soccer when my son was 8 months old.  I got married in my second year of undergrad and continued playing soccer and going full time to school in addition to being married and a mom.  I graduated from undergrad in 3 years instead of 4.  My undergrad is Pre-Law.  Then, I changed gears and took Praxis I and II to get provisionally certified to teach in the state of Georgia.  I taught for 4 years and in my 5th year of teaching 9th grade.  I finished my Masters in Education during my 2nd and 3rd years of teaching and had another child during that time as well.  This past September, I got divorced.  So now, I'm a single mother of 2 boys and am tired of teaching and want to do what I have always said I would-go to law school.  I want to be able to provide for my boys in a way that I feel they deserve and unfortunately, educators do not get paid near enough what they should.  I also want my boys to know that you can get as much of an education as you want and nothing can stand in your way except yourself.  I'm planning on pursuing family, juvenile, or education law.  Anyway, hopefully I get in and am able to start in the fall of 2007.  I'm going all out-quitting my job, moving on campus an hour away from family, the works, but I think it's going to be the best and the hardest 3 years of my life.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: rugercaptain on December 30, 2006, 12:19:31 PM
First, I am amazed by the number of non-traditionals there are on this board! It is so encouraging.

Ah, a discussion thread to which I can relate!

45 y/o career fire service member, BS in Economics from Heidelberg College (OH) 1985.  Been in the fire service since '88, now a battalion chief.  Experience in code enforcement and administrative law as they relate to fire prevention and inspection.  Currently enrolled in a MPA program, but law is really my calling.  I'll probably keep the job (only six years to go until retirement) and go to law school part-time evenings beginning Fall 2007.

I'm taking the LSAT in February.  To pass the time until then (and because I have nothing else to do--right), I bought a few "Outstanding Law Professor Series" Sum and Substance CDs--I really like the Constitutional Law CDs by Professor Mary Cheh.  Darrow--you may want to check these out for a taste of Con Law.

rugercaptain 
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: emigre on December 30, 2006, 08:33:26 PM
Why not?

48 years old, married, 15 year old child.  Been a paralegal since 1981 and always had great, challenging jobs.  Lived in lots of different places, outside USA as well as in.  Moved three years ago, found out that where I live now, paralegal means admin.  Also, working for university, so free tuition.  Combination of factors set off the little voice inside my head, saying, maybe it's time.

Of course, little voices could just mean it's time to adjust the medication - but did well enough on the LSAT to take it all seriously. So, why not will do.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: darrow on December 30, 2006, 11:01:56 PM
Thanks for sharing.

I like that there’s this little voice that awakens old desires. I watch my mom who is 75 and I am sure that were she born a few decades later, she would have fulfilled other dreams, as well as, being a homemaker. This calling has opened a second phase in my career life. It makes me feel young again, as if there is so much still to do and plenty of time. (Probably because I’m around twenty year olds all the time.) There’s an excitement of newness in everyday that had, not disappeared, but dissipated before I stepped onto this path.

I find that I’m becoming more flexible in my thinking as I engage more and more in this process. They say that as we get older, our music tastes become more rigid, as do other tastes and opinions that we’ve formed. So this returning to school is refreshing, like an engine overhaul.

A few acquaintances have questioned my pursuit (“at your age”). But I understand emigre’s thinking, why not. If not this what—watch TV all the time? I actually feel energized by what I learn and find that I’m amazed that even though I might forget constantly where I’ve put something that I’ve put in a special place so I won’t forget where I put it, I can and do learn and retain new subject matters.

I don’t think we are overly ambitious, Paul. I just think that we are engaged in living, in fulfilling out desires instead of being held back by fear. (Not to say I haven’t had fears in this process.) And I think that as KMarty said, we are showing the youngsters in our families one of the most important lessons in life—pursue your dreams.

Thanks for the recommendation, rugercaptain. I will take a look at the Con Law CDs. Oh, and in case anyone is interested, http://www.lifeofalawstudent.com/ (http://www.lifeofalawstudent.com/) offers some great law lessons that can be listened to on the site or downloaded as mp3s or podcast from iTunes.

So is everyone beginning in fall of 2007? I’ll be interested to hear how it goes.

I’m actually considering waiting a couple of years after I graduate while I pursue my Masters through the graduate program at St. John’s College. They do the great books of Western thought and I’ve never had the opportunity to study the “great books.” I also figured that this would help build a more solid foundation before studying U.S. law, which is based on Western thought. Or maybe, I’m just stalling…

What are everyone’s plans for ensuring proper study time, as well as family time? How has your family reacted to your goals?

Happy New Year
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: emigre on January 01, 2007, 06:28:42 PM
darrow -  do law school now and save the great books for retirement.  They'll still be there. 

My husband is very keen on me going to law school, but I think it's all part of a secret plan whereby he will get to retire when he's 55 and his attorney wife support him.

What I'm concerned about is, with working full time and law school part time, I'm not going to have any free time - and my daughter goes off to college in 2 1/2 years.  Do I want to miss out on this time?  should I put it off for another two years?  difficult....
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: rugercaptain on January 01, 2007, 08:21:44 PM
What I'm concerned about is, with working full time and law school part time, I'm not going to have any free time - and my daughter goes off to college in 2 1/2 years.  Do I want to miss out on this time?  should I put it off for another two years?  difficult....

I don't know, emigre...I don't have children.  Don't like kids, but am always respectful of those who can have and raise them.  My partner and I have discussed my going to law school full-time--if I can get a full tuition scholarship.  That would mean quitting my job and moving into an apartment near school, leaving her to manage a household and four pugs on her own.

If my Dad had wanted to go to college when I was 15-16 years old, I would've just shrugged.   ???   Mom died when I was fourteen, and Dad was a factory worker, slaving away on second shift at the local GM plant.  I took care of myself and my sister--Dad did what he needed to do for us financially.  In the spirit of truth, however, I would've liked a little more emotional support from Dad back then, but he probably didn't have the capacity to give it.  

Mom and Dad are both gone now.  My partner and I have been together for fourteen years and we have a solid relationship (as well as a decent investment portfolio--can't emphasize how much security that provides).  She wants me to be happy, and I think I'll be happy in law school and as a lawyer.  The fire service has been an interesting diversion for me, but it isn't what I was born to do.

Have you talked with your daughter about your law school ambitions?

rugercaptain
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: LadyKD on January 01, 2007, 08:32:33 PM
34 year old single mom of one. I cant remember a time when I didnt want to go to law school. Thank you Barbara Jordan.

 But a thing called life got in the way. So after doing undergrad part-time (took forever it seems like) I figure why not keep my dream alive and go for the whole shebang.

I am not going to lawschool for the big bucks, I work in state government and could be one of the rare few who enjoys my job in public service. Bleeding heart liberal(but someone has to be) So by going to lawschool I hope to add more knowledge for myself and do more in the way of public service. 
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: JDubs on January 02, 2007, 11:09:35 AM
28yo husband and father of a 3.5 month old.  Been a programmer for close to 7 years and am sick of it.  Almost went to LS 2.5 years ago but chickened out for financial reasons at the last minute.  Been unhappy ever since and finally decided to bite the bullet and start PT in the fall.

gonna be tough with the little one but I figured it makes more sense to do it now since he won't remember much of this time in his life when he is older anyway.  plan is to be done in time to start coaching his soccer team :)

no interest in big law when all is said and done, ideally would hang my own shingle but have a feeling I'll work for a small/mid size firm for several years first.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: jsbowen on January 02, 2007, 01:15:03 PM
28 year old husband and father of two (son 4 and daughter 9 months).  I plan on starting in the Fall of 07.  I've worked in the IT field for 5-7 years.  I enjoy technology and hope to incorporate it into my legal career (most likely IP).

My main reason for going to law school (other than I said I was going to since the 5th grade) is the flexibility a JD provides.  It is a strong education that transfers well to many areas.  If I want to work in a small office in a rural town, I can.  If I want to work in a big office in NYC, I can.  If I want to setup my own shop by the beach, I can.

Also, I tend to have many interests and like pursuing them thoroughly.  A legal education should provide many avenues in which I can direct.  I initially will focus on IP, due to my tech background, but I wouldn't rule out changing into Real Estate, Healthcare, or Corp.

As far as time management, I plan on treating law school like a full-time job.  40-50 hours a week during the day, overtime at night and weekends as needed.

The most difficult part for me in the decision is financial.  I am the only income for my family and am most likely earning more now than I will upon graduation from law school.  I anticipate having to take many, many thousands of dollars in loans just to get through.  The mindset of acquiring so much debt is difficult to accept; one that I hope my wife and children (eventually) understand and continue to support.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: darrow on January 02, 2007, 04:46:20 PM
What I'm concerned about is, with working full time and law school part time, I'm not going to have any free time - and my daughter goes off to college in 2 1/2 years.  Do I want to miss out on this time?  should I put it off for another two years?  difficult....

I think ruger's on the right track. So emigre, did you talk with your daughter? How does she feel about you going to law school? You can always make a point of putting aside a day for the family. You've got the free tuition now and may not have it later. How cool is that? You'll probably be graduating around the same time she graduates.

Does your job require a lot of overtime? Or do you leave it behind when you walk out the door?

All right LadyKD! Another Barbara Jordan fan. How do you handle school, work, and being a single mom? How do you ensure there is time for your child? I'm only in undergrad, and granted I'm taking a full load both in work and school, but I have found it hard to find the balance of my goals and my family.

JDubs, what's your language? JSBowen, you mentioned treating school like a full-time job and your concern about the finances, are you going to continue working while you are in school? I've continued programming while I'm in undergraduate, and it has worked out well. What kind of IT work do you do JS?

Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: JDubs on January 02, 2007, 05:25:09 PM
JDubs, what's your language?

Java/JSP primarily, do some stuff with PHP though.

Probably going to cut back to PT once I start school though and fill in the gaps with freelance web development work.  Hour train ride to school every night plus wanting to see my son will cause me to cut back.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: emigre on January 02, 2007, 08:37:44 PM
rugercaptain and darrow:

sure, my daughter's fully behind it - in principle.  But asking a 15 year old to give up comfort and convenience (i.e. an instantly available mom, which she's been used to for 15 years, even though I've worked most of that time) is like asking time to run backwards - it may be desireable, but don't hold your breath.

Actually, I think it would be harder for me than for her.  I was thinking more that limiting our time together when she's going to be gone - gone- in 2 1/2 years will be missing too much.

On the other hand, it would be kind of cool to graduate at the same time......

At the same time, unlike the rest of you, law school was never really a dream of mine.  I became a paralegal at a time when it was a new and exciting profession, and have always loved doing it - worked for some large firms, some corporations, and always rose immediately to the top of the paralegal heap and got the plum assignments....until we moved to KY three years ago.  Ironically, now that I've kind of made up my mind about going to law school, and let the attorneys I work with know that, they've started viewing me in a new light - and now are piling on the plum assignments.  So law school may be a moot point right now - I've got far to much to do. 

On the other hand, the free tuition - and never having to explain again that I'm not JUST a paralegal....

To many other hands here, my decision changes daily!  But I think I'm going to do it anyway.

edited because the italics went wrong.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: andyroberts on January 03, 2007, 07:54:43 AM
31 years old, father of 2 (1 yr old boy, 10 wk old fetus).  I've been in law enforcement for the last six years, and although I know that is only a small are of the law, it is one to which I've gained great exposure and insight.  Heck, if nothing else worked out I know I could come back and replace some of my prosecuting attorneys.  I've just decided it is time for a change, and this seems to be the next logical step, not based on my work experience, but based on my interests--although I'm not sure specifically what they are. 
My wife and I have decided that since she is marketable enough just about anywhere in her career, we are going to move the family wherever I get in, and she'll be the sugar mama for three years whilst I sit, study, and be merry.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: darrow on January 03, 2007, 08:58:54 PM
The train is a good time to get some work in JDubs. Great thing about our line of work, we can do it anywhere we have a computer. Oddly enough, I haven't had the opportunity to get into web stuff too deeply. I did some work with Perl a while back but right now I find myself mostly building vertical applications with VB and SQL.

Ah, emigre, you want your cake and you want to eat it too. Well, why not?!! I was reading some other posts that were talking about the school work load and the worries of not being able to get in all the time we want with our families. A couple of people pointed out, and I think rightly so, that a lot of youngsters spend a great deal of time partying. I've watched my nephews and neices prepare for a night on the town. It takes them a good hour or two just to coordinate (with all the instant messaging they do - never using the phone to clarify). The posts pointed out that this is our family/work time, that's how we party. There will be plenty of free time for your daughter. And remember her friends are becoming more important with each passing day. Law school will keep you busy while she off being a teenager with her friends.

Any ideas for what kind of law you want to practice Andy?



Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: andyroberts on January 03, 2007, 10:07:12 PM
Well, Darrow, from a cop's standpoint, the obvious transition would be to criminal prosecution or defense, but I'm not so sure.  Pretty much, I'll go where the post-1L interest takes me.  I like the idea of family law as a solo prac. or small firm guy, but who wouldn't like a taste of biglaw if he/she is even slightly competitive?  It's really up in the air, but I would like to take a stab at just about anything.  Like I say, JD beats BS like a full house beats a pair.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: jsbowen on January 04, 2007, 10:32:58 AM
JSBowen, you mentioned treating school like a full-time job and your concern about the finances, are you going to continue working while you are in school? I've continued programming while I'm in undergraduate, and it has worked out well. What kind of IT work do you do JS?

I'm not planning on working during law school, which means nothing but student loans and/or scholarships for income.  My wife working is not an option with the little one.

I'm a little bit of everything in IT.  Mostly do networking/system admin, but I also enjoy web design/dev. and have programmed when necessary. 
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: sertag on January 07, 2007, 05:02:24 PM
I've decided to apply and hopefully attend law school this fall because I'm interested in practicing IP law in the field of biotechnology and or pharmaceuticals.  I've been a scientist for six years now and I'm about done with working at the bench.  I hope to incorporate my MS in Physiological Science and law. I hope to become a judge.  In addition, I also want to be a role model to my daughters (3yo and currently 7mo pregnant) and show them that it is possible to balance motherhood with a career. 
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: luckylucyd on January 09, 2007, 10:50:21 AM
I had a good solid 11 year career with UPS, which I gave up to follow my fiance to another state, we parted ways I came home and have floundered every since.  Law has always interested me, but it was something I always told myself I couldn't do.  I took the LSAT a year ago and didn't do well at all, I was finishing my M.S. in Human Resources and didn't dedicate enough time and energy.  Since then I've been obsessed with proving that I can do it.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: RN to JD on January 09, 2007, 12:17:19 PM
20 yrs/nursing + 20 yrs/attorney = well rounded good life? Hope to make more money the last 20 years. Who knows.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: Boss on January 09, 2007, 12:31:20 PM
My main reason for going to law school (other than I said I was going to since the 5th grade) is the flexibility a JD provides.  It is a strong education that transfers well to many areas.  If I want to work in a small office in a rural town, I can.  If I want to work in a big office in NYC, I can.  If I want to setup my own shop by the beach, I can.

What he said - word for word.


The clincher for me was going through a job search after leaving the Army and having to explain over and over again that my 3-5 years military leadership and management equate to the 3-5 years civlian leadership and management they were looking for.  Hiring managers just didn't seem to care.  Then I had one actually tell me that they don't like to hire BA's because a BS actually proves that you're capable of learning. WHAT!?!?!?  Try saying that to me when I've got my JD.  Plus, law is law.  Having a JD makes it much easier to apply for jobs.  If the ad says "3-5 years experience as a lawyer" we're all on the same page.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: FossilJ on January 09, 2007, 12:32:47 PM
Man, I love the Non-Trad board sometimes.  This thread has been fun reading.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: Para Legal on January 10, 2007, 07:14:19 PM
I've always wanted to go, and we have enough equity in our house right now to sell, live cheap and pay off all our debts...then take student loans and be able to get a professional job on the other side of the law school thing. We've also made another goal happen- we've saved a significant amount of money for retirement (early money is awesome) so even if we can't save for another 3 years while in school, we're still on track in that department.


And also, I'm tired of being a grown up, and I want to go back to school for a few years.

Cheers,

Para
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: knicksfan0323 on January 10, 2007, 08:49:23 PM
31 years old, father of 2 (1 yr old boy, 10 wk old fetus).  I've been in law enforcement for the last six years, and although I know that is only a small are of the law, it is one to which I've gained great exposure and insight.  Heck, if nothing else worked out I know I could come back and replace some of my prosecuting attorneys.  I've just decided it is time for a change, and this seems to be the next logical step, not based on my work experience, but based on my interests--although I'm not sure specifically what they are. 
My wife and I have decided that since she is marketable enough just about anywhere in her career, we are going to move the family wherever I get in, and she'll be the sugar mama for three years whilst I sit, study, and be merry.

You seem awesome...especially on your other posts :) Where are you applying?

And to not get totally off topic...I'm in the weird middle of being a traditional vs. non traditional...I don't know what I am (the story of my life). I just finished my undergraduate degree in 2006...it took me six years...I went to school part-time for a while because I had to work full time through school to support myself. I got pregnant while still in college and now have a lovely 2.5 year old boy. I just got married in June 2006. Even though I'm only 24, most people my age aren't "like me" and don't identify with my situation so I'm hoping there will be someplace for me to fit in at whatever law school I choose.

I decided I wanted to go to law school for several reasons. First off, a friend from high school planted the seed in my head when I met up with him for drink while in Chicago on business (he was studying at Northwestern Law) - He told me I would make a good lawyer. Secondly, I worked for this guy as his assistant(slave essentially) and worked with General Counsel and was around a lot of different legal things, so it interested inspired me. But mostly, I decided i wasn't satisfied with my life and holding down an unchallenging and boring administrative-assistant style job.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: andyroberts on January 12, 2007, 09:01:24 AM
Thanks, northerstar.  A compliment is refreshing, especially considering some of the know-it-all pups out on this site.  Ha ha.  My LSN link is on my signature line.  My #'s are pretty unspectacular, but it is what it is.  Sounds like you've got a full plate, too.  I had a similar experience about the law school epiphane.  I was sitting in the police academy learning criminal law from our lead county prosecutor, an eloquent fat man.  Also, some of my UG professors are attorneys as well, and it just took me finding the right time to start the next steps.  But being around them and absorbing some of what they had to offer gave me a little different perspective as to where I fit in. I've been out of UG for almost four years now, and, and I only got my degree nine years after I graduated HS. 
I really like the non-trad board because it's not full of pompous 22-yr-olds with no life experience outside academia.  I had two close...very close admits last cycle, but ultimately got dinged on both.  I know this is my year, since I've applied to thirteen schools instead of just four like last time.
By the way, finding time to study and take care of everything else is multiplied at least tenfold with kids, huh? 
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: knicksfan0323 on January 12, 2007, 10:18:31 AM
Thanks, northerstar.  A compliment is refreshing, especially considering some of the know-it-all pups out on this site.  Ha ha.  My LSN link is on my signature line.  My #'s are pretty unspectacular, but it is what it is.  Sounds like you've got a full plate, too.  I had a similar experience about the law school epiphane.  I was sitting in the police academy learning criminal law from our lead county prosecutor, an eloquent fat man.  Also, some of my UG professors are attorneys as well, and it just took me finding the right time to start the next steps.  But being around them and absorbing some of what they had to offer gave me a little different perspective as to where I fit in. I've been out of UG for almost four years now, and, and I only got my degree nine years after I graduated HS. 
I really like the non-trad board because it's not full of pompous 22-yr-olds with no life experience outside academia.  I had two close...very close admits last cycle, but ultimately got dinged on both.  I know this is my year, since I've applied to thirteen schools instead of just four like last time.
By the way, finding time to study and take care of everything else is multiplied at least tenfold with kids, huh? 


Yeah no kidding. The other day I was trying to get some work at home done and I had a 2.5 year old crawling all over me. Our house is small so there is no escaping the baby. My husband and I have finally agreed that if we need to study or do work (he's still finishing his undergrad), we leave the house.

You sound like you have a lot going for you - I'm sure you will get into a great school - My numbers aren't the best either, so I'm hoping that unique life experience counts for something. Best of luck to you and I hope to see you around on the board!
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 01:24:25 AM
You guys put me to shame, but I'll share nonetheless.

28 yrs. old, BSEE, working on an MSEE now (but I won't finish before I go to law school). I have 2+ years research experience in nanotechnology and solid state devices. I also have 5+ yrs. experience in IT (Cisco, Checkpoint, server & workstation config. & setup, etc.).

I'm a pretty good communicator but most engineers aren't. I'm also better in theory than in practical stuff (I'm too lazy to do any actual work ;)). I want to put these skills to good use and help engineers with the language of the law (drafting patents, litigation, etc.)
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: RobWreck on January 18, 2007, 12:11:35 PM
Why am I going to law school? I'm a 35 year-old telecom technician w/ 9 years at a major telephone company. Thought I was sitting pretty... good salary, good benefits, retire after 30 years w/ a good pension. Too bad the company did a lay-off back in 2002, a week before Christmas. I was s'pposed to be one of the ones out on the street, but a clause in our contract allowed me to kepp my job, albeit with a downgrade from technician to mail room clerk on midnights. I spent a year there stuffing phone bills from 11:30 pm to 6:30 am, Tuesday thru Saturday. The union finally got everyone there jobs back, but that year left me plenty of time to think about my future. Got me to get off my lazy butt and head back to school. Majored in Labor Relations and became a shop steward. Decided that I liked advocating for the membership and developed a real strong appreciation for collective bargaining agreements, so law school seems like the right place to learn more about both those aspects.
Rob
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: jarhead on January 18, 2007, 02:11:57 PM
always wanted to...and im tired of doing what im doing...plus working in DC i know how much money is out there to be made and i want in  :)...
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: Sgt J-Rod on January 21, 2007, 11:43:48 PM
35 years old, married, two kids. Been to war, came back and work on a dock. I'm too smart to do that forever (at least I think I am). Have the undergraduate degree and always thought I'd go to law school one of these days. Now seems like the right time.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: jarhead on January 22, 2007, 03:56:20 PM
35 years old, married, two kids. Been to war, came back and work on a dock. I'm too smart to do that forever (at least I think I am). Have the undergraduate degree and always thought I'd go to law school one of these days. Now seems like the right time.


thanks for your service...always glad to see vets getting on with their lives
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: rugercaptain on January 23, 2007, 04:19:52 AM
And also, I'm tired of being a grown up, and I want to go back to school for a few years.

Cheers,

Para

I'm glad someone else admitted this first.  Ah, the life of a poor, hard-working, macaroni-and-cheese eating student!   :D

rugercaptain
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: Jolie Was Here on January 23, 2007, 04:35:23 AM
Hey Rob,
Where did you do your Labor Relations studies?  I worked in the union/labor relations field for about six years before heading to law school this fall, and I have my masters in Industrial and Labor Relations.  Always good to see more union folk taking the plunge!
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: RobWreck on January 23, 2007, 11:11:42 AM
SUNY College at Old Westbury... it's one of the few schools that have a degree specifically for labor relations. Everytime I mention my major, the first place that comes to mind is Cornell... but I'm afraid that I'm not quite that prestigious. I guess I'll be the blue collar attorney. ;)
Rob

Hey Rob,
Where did you do your Labor Relations studies?  I worked in the union/labor relations field for about six years before heading to law school this fall, and I have my masters in Industrial and Labor Relations.  Always good to see more union folk taking the plunge!
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: mary.tu on January 23, 2007, 11:33:30 AM
29 years old, no child, have a to-be boyfriend studying in US for phD degree, but I am not sure he will be the right one.
I am a patent agent in China, 1 year in-house patent engineer, 2 year patent law firm experience.
I just registered for this Jun LSAT, although I am still in a shaky mind. I want a relationship and build my family, but from my past experience, you can never rely on guys to promise you a happy life. So I want to make myself more professional in the patent attorney career path, so anytime I can be strong enough to leave if I met the wrong guy.

Maybe I will harvest a Mr right in law school, who knows.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: Jolie Was Here on January 23, 2007, 11:37:52 AM
SUNY College at Old Westbury... it's one of the few schools that have a degree specifically for labor relations. Everytime I mention my major, the first place that comes to mind is Cornell... but I'm afraid that I'm not quite that prestigious. I guess I'll be the blue collar attorney. ;)
Rob

Hey Rob,
Where did you do your Labor Relations studies?  I worked in the union/labor relations field for about six years before heading to law school this fall, and I have my masters in Industrial and Labor Relations.  Always good to see more union folk taking the plunge!

Prestige, schmestige... I did do my master's at Cornell, but I'm a proud SUNY alum for undergrad myself.  Good to see others around these here pedigree-obsessed parts!   :D
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: hotpot on January 25, 2007, 01:41:02 PM
What do you mean by a to-be boyfriend?

29 years old, no child, have a to-be boyfriend studying in US for phD degree, but I am not sure he will be the right one.
I am a patent agent in China, 1 year in-house patent engineer, 2 year patent law firm experience.
I just registered for this Jun LSAT, although I am still in a shaky mind. I want a relationship and build my family, but from my past experience, you can never rely on guys to promise you a happy life. So I want to make myself more professional in the patent attorney career path, so anytime I can be strong enough to leave if I met the wrong guy.

Maybe I will harvest a Mr right in law school, who knows.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: moonbeemz on January 26, 2007, 05:24:28 PM
I'm 34, single mom of an 11yo girl. 

Got divorced two years ago; my ex died in November.  My dad died a year ago October, and my FIL the December before...  The universe is sending me clear signals that life is short. 

I always wanted to be in law, but the family thing happened 

I was far too busy with my travel heavy, fun but ruined by a noxious boss job.  I'm taking some time off to recuperate and focus on me and the kid, planning to enter fall 2008... was going to try for 2007 but just so much going on still, with dealing with the estate and just getting life back to normal.

Best of luck to all on the 2007 cycle - see you around!

Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on February 01, 2007, 05:46:15 PM
because...

...I have always wanted to go.
...I welcome the intellectual challenge and academic rigor of LS.
...I have no interest in getting a "fluff" graduate degree.  I must work hard and think hard in school and on the job.
...I believe LS will best develop and capitalize on my strengths and abilities.
...I want to see justice roll down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.
...I finally realized that just because you can do something doesn't mean you have to make a career of it.
...I carefully weighed all my options, and every other program paled in comparison.
...I secretly envy all my friends who have finished LS or MS and started their careers.
...I had always planned to go back to school after two years post-UG.  It's been four.  No time like the present.
...I love having the freedom to one day work for myself, a firm, or in a new field altogether.
...I hope to forge a path for other talented URMs in the field.
...I seriously need a break from the working world.  I can really appreciate being a student this time around.
...I want to develop a competency in a specific area. The jack of all trades, master of none bit is not working for me anymore.
...I have actually started receiving acceptance letters.  Finally.  YAY!
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: jsbowen on February 02, 2007, 09:24:38 AM
...I finally realized that just because you can do something doesn't mean you have to make a career of it.

...I want to develop a competency in a specific area. The jack of all trades, master of none bit is not working for me anymore.

These two hit home for me.  Well said!
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: flyaway on February 02, 2007, 12:13:48 PM

...I want to develop a competency in a specific area. The jack of all trades, master of none bit is not working for me anymore.

Yeah, I especially like this one.  I want a freaking particular career path, rather than having had some great jobs and developed great skills, but none that qualify me to say I am a X.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: EEtoJD on February 08, 2007, 05:46:55 AM
A very big reason that I'd like to be a patent attorney, that for some reason I've left unsaid--maybe because I don't feel like getting into arguments about science on a non-scientific discussion board (but I've just spent about four hours researching pseudoscience and bad patents, so now is a good a time as any to broach the topic)--is to try to combat bad science in patents. There are just too many patents granted (too many being any number greater than one, so I guess it would be more accurate to say way too many) that do stuff like, oh, I don't know, defy the laws of physics (e.g., patents on perpetual motion and free-energy machines). That's not to say that such machines are impossible, but, well, they probably are. The USPTO is supposed to require an extraordinary amount of evidence in favor of anything that seemingly defies established scientific principles, but they're just not doing it very well anymore. They used to require a working model of something before granting a patent. I'd like to see it go back to that standard.

I'm unsure how to best channel my efforts, but I'm thinking that if I'm a patent attorney for a number of years, I'll get working knowledge of how patents are prosecuted and litigated, and maybe (note the emphasis) get to quash a few bad patent attempts in the process. Then, perhaps I'll move to the USPTO (with a massive pay cut, of course), starting as a patent examiner, hopefully moving to the administrative levels (maybe Director? One can hope...) where I can affect some real change in the process.

So, my reasons are (in no particular order):
1. Help engineers and scientists in the patent process.
2. Get an intellectually rewarding (and nice-paying) job that utilizes my communication skills in addition to my technical knowledge (that sounds resume-ish, huh?).
3. Help stop the pseudoscientific crap that leaks through the cracks.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: GwenK on February 08, 2007, 12:07:49 PM
Life is short...and this is something that I've always wanted. Not sure exactly what I want to practice, but I don't really need to until 2L.

I think alot of the naysayers I've heard asking over and over "why" are really just jealous because they're in so much debt and shackled to their jobs that they cannot imagine actually capitalizing on their dream! I feel very fortunate!
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: jarhead on February 08, 2007, 03:00:50 PM
I have no interest in getting a "fluff" graduate degree.



completely agree everybody in my office has an MS or MA in who gives a f$%K...its not helping them one bit




Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: mldjd2011 on February 09, 2007, 08:34:53 AM
35 y/o teacher married to a cop
Life is too short to be bored.
Teaching has become a job of public relations.  I want to make an impact in the world and public education doesn't allow that anymore... So, now it is time for me to challenge myself and pursue the dream. Plus, I just really enjoy the journey of learning.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: AJ on February 10, 2007, 08:12:18 PM
I need more professional autonomy.

I've already gotten my "fluff" graduate degree. At least maybe it'll be a good soft factor. 

I'm 35 years old and been kicking the idea around for years.

No wife, no kids--its good timing if I can just deal with the June test.

Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: younghova on February 11, 2007, 12:52:31 AM
its pretty simple why everyone has fluff master degrees

i graduated UG in 2005.  I received incredible pressure from family, friends, professors, my advisor to continue my education in some sort of masters program (something, doesn't matter what).  I didn't.  gotta an okay job.  plan on going to law school in fall 2008.  I receive scorn from everyone.  kind of wish i would of gotten a masters in theology or something to keep everyone off my back.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: verity-seeker on February 16, 2007, 03:30:46 PM
Undergrad degree long, long ago. Many different jobs since then (editing, teaching, filmmaking, programming, assistant to private investigator, model, massage therapist, and more, more, more). Never thought about law school until two years ago when a relative was wrongfully convicted of murder. Now, that's all I think about. Just in beginning stages (studying for LSAT, figuring out the financial aspect), but determined that even if I can't help my relative, I can help SOMEONE.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: Paper Chaser on March 19, 2007, 03:26:53 PM
Financial stability, prestige, to do work that makes a difference, achieve my dream since I was a kid, pave the way for my kids ascension to higher education, access to various money making avenues the law opens, possibly teach, write books, travel and study at different institutions, to make my parents proud, to show the gang youth I tutor that you can be whatever you want no matter where you come from, to enjoy life the Ralph Lauren way (lol), the intellectual camaraderie of others outside my perspective and understanding, and hopefully allow my wife to be a homemaker if she chooses...law is one of the few professions in life that can help or destroy people...I just want to leave my footprint in the sand like everyone else.
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on March 19, 2007, 04:35:28 PM
Financial stability, prestige, to do work that makes a difference, achieve my dream since I was a kid, pave the way for my kids ascension to higher education, access to various money making avenues the law opens, possibly teach, write books, travel and study at different institutions, to make my parents proud, to show the gang youth I tutor that you can be whatever you want no matter where you come from, to enjoy life the Ralph Lauren way (lol), the intellectual camaraderie of others outside my perspective and understanding, and hopefully allow my wife to be a homemaker if she chooses...law is one of the few professions in life that can help or destroy people...I just want to leave my footprint in the sand like everyone else.

That is a great list!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: Paper Chaser on March 19, 2007, 05:06:40 PM
thanks...
Title: Re: Why Have You Decided To Go To Law School?
Post by: LegalMatters on March 20, 2007, 11:31:25 AM
I made a big mistake as an undergraduate. I asked the dean of the college at the university I was attending, a former U.S. prosecutor, if a student could purchase and then resell cassettes on campus marked up without violating copyright laws (long story). He made me research it and report back to him. Ever since, I kid you not, he's brought it up every single year, even after I graduated and started my present career. It's been eating at me ever since - nearly 10 years.

It's intellectually stimulating, I can work as a public servant, and make a difference in peoples lives. If I can help one person solve one problem, big or small, that's enough for me.