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Deciding Where to Go => Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists => Topic started by: stardustinmyveins on December 13, 2006, 07:42:07 AM

Title: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: stardustinmyveins on December 13, 2006, 07:42:07 AM
Hi, I'm sure there's a post on this somewhere, but I can't find it. What's the difference between being deferred and waitlist? I was deferred as an EA app to GULC (not a good start), so is that better than WL?

I guess a 167/3.92 isn't good enough for these folks, huh? Haha
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: Ravynous Elegance on December 13, 2006, 12:46:50 PM
I also got deferred at GULC EA.  I know a lot of people are thinking WL is better than Deferral, especially prefered WL, but I'm of the opinion that a Deferral means that think you might fit in with their class, while a WL would mean even if they kept you around for a while longer, they'd probably still WL you.  Of course, the plus to a WL is that you can't get flat out rejected, but since you also can't get immediately accepted... its just sort of a limbo stage...

Personally, I'm happy with my deferral - especially since I was expecting a rejection.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on December 18, 2006, 01:20:26 PM
Dustin,

Deferral = the school holds you until they can assess the regular applicant pool.  Only applies to EA.
Waitlist = the school has reviewed the entire applicant pool, and still doesn't have a spot for you.

Some schools, like Columbia, have what they call a "reserve" list - I believe this is pretty much like a waitlist, although they say they don't rank students on it.


I don't think deferral is just for EA/ED applicants ... I just got "deffered" (though they didn't call it that) at UK ... they will "re-look at my application in february" or something
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: S2X on December 18, 2006, 05:08:42 PM
That is right, deferral is not just for EA/ED.  My file got put on hold at Creighton and they will likely get back to me in late spring.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: client228 on December 27, 2006, 09:54:42 PM
Oh my gosh!
That what that means?
I just got a letter from Fordham saying that "admissions committee has decided to postpone a final decision"

So that's a deferral? I didn't apply Early decision so i thought it must be an error on their part. :p

Does that mean I have something slightly greater than a shred of hope?
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: bamf on December 27, 2006, 10:08:24 PM
Dustin,

Deferral = the school holds you until they can assess the regular applicant pool.  Only applies to EA.
Waitlist = the school has reviewed the entire applicant pool, and still doesn't have a spot for you.

Some schools, like Columbia, have what they call a "reserve" list - I believe this is pretty much like a waitlist, although they say they don't rank students on it.

I enjoy how your address the OP ..."dustin"

I also got deferred at GULC EA.  I know a lot of people are thinking WL is better than Deferral, especially prefered WL, but I'm of the opinion that a Deferral means that think you might fit in with their class, while a WL would mean even if they kept you around for a while longer, they'd probably still WL you.  Of course, the plus to a WL is that you can't get flat out rejected, but since you also can't get immediately accepted... its just sort of a limbo stage...

Personally, I'm happy with my deferral - especially since I was expecting a rejection.

I don't know who would think WL is better than deferral ... WL is final (for now), deferral is not ...
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: Nart on January 15, 2007, 12:29:36 AM
Dustin,

Deferral = the school holds you until they can assess the regular applicant pool.  Only applies to EA.
Waitlist = the school has reviewed the entire applicant pool, and still doesn't have a spot for you.

Some schools, like Columbia, have what they call a "reserve" list - I believe this is pretty much like a waitlist, although they say they don't rank students on it.

I prefer WL too. At least you might get in when someone else withdraws. With deferrals, all the spots will be fill up before they decide what to do with your app. By then, you'll be even lower on the waitlist, if there is even room on there.

I enjoy how your address the OP ..."dustin"

I also got deferred at GULC EA.  I know a lot of people are thinking WL is better than Deferral, especially prefered WL, but I'm of the opinion that a Deferral means that think you might fit in with their class, while a WL would mean even if they kept you around for a while longer, they'd probably still WL you.  Of course, the plus to a WL is that you can't get flat out rejected, but since you also can't get immediately accepted... its just sort of a limbo stage...

Personally, I'm happy with my deferral - especially since I was expecting a rejection.

I don't know who would think WL is better than deferral ... WL is final (for now), deferral is not ...
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: Sk123 on January 16, 2007, 12:47:32 PM
So far, accepted at Temple ($$), accepted at American, and deferred at Fordham. Im waiting to hear from GULC, UMich, GWU, BC,BC, Brooklyn, and Northeastern.
LSATS 164 and GPA 3.48 from a top tier liberal arts school. What are my chances for the rest of the apps?
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: bamf on January 16, 2007, 01:09:16 PM
So far, accepted at Temple ($$), accepted at American, and deferred at Fordham. Im waiting to hear from GULC, UMich, GWU, BC,BC, Brooklyn, and Northeastern.
LSATS 164 and GPA 3.48 from a top tier liberal arts school. What are my chances for the rest of the apps?


wrong thread, but whatevs
decent shot at GWU and BC.  Better than decent at BU.  Brooklyn and NEU obvious safeties.  Maybe a waitlist from Mich but chances are slim at those T14s.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: Chibundu on February 08, 2007, 10:14:19 PM
Yea I have been waitlisted at American, Univ of Houston and DePaul and then Deferred at SMU. I am also happy about my deferral. I will definitely be visiting SMU this upcoming week and submitting an additional letter of rec or 2 AND my detailed letter of intent on why I need to be in the Fall 2007 1L class.

But the only difference I discrened from all my letters was that a deferall could be decided at anytime although they allow up until April/Mayish and a Waitlist will not be decided until at the earliest after they have their initial April seat deposits.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: SilentSwirl on February 08, 2007, 11:09:22 PM
So...

Deferral = We've looked at your app and dont want to make a decision. (Doesn't this basically put you in the same place as when you first applied [they can still say yes or no] except that they've put off flat out rejecting you for now? Am I missing something?)

Waitlist = We've basically decided no, except that if we can't fill our seats there's a small chance we'll call you up to see if you're still interested.

Yes, no, maybe, totally wrong?
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: Groundhog on February 08, 2007, 11:15:47 PM
So...

Deferral = We've looked at your app and dont want to make a decision. (Doesn't this basically put you in the same place as when you first applied [they can still say yes or no] except that they've put off flat out rejecting you for now? Am I missing something?)

Waitlist = We've basically decided no, except that if we can't fill our seats there's a small chance we'll call you up to see if you're still interested.

Yes, no, maybe, totally wrong?

Sounds right to me.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: LuvHurtz on February 08, 2007, 11:16:38 PM
So...

Deferral = We've looked at your app and dont want to make a decision. (Doesn't this basically put you in the same place as when you first applied [they can still say yes or no] except that they've put off flat out rejecting you for now? Am I missing something?)

Waitlist = We've basically decided no, except that if we can't fill our seats there's a small chance we'll call you up to see if you're still interested.

Yes, no, maybe, totally wrong?

This is the way I interpret it also.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: SilentSwirl on February 08, 2007, 11:18:16 PM
So...

Deferral = We've looked at your app and dont want to make a decision. (Doesn't this basically put you in the same place as when you first applied [they can still say yes or no] except that they've put off flat out rejecting you for now? Am I missing something?)

Waitlist = We've basically decided no, except that if we can't fill our seats there's a small chance we'll call you up to see if you're still interested.

Yes, no, maybe, totally wrong?

Sounds right to me.

So why do people get so dang happy with deferrals? Because it's a step up "for now" from a rejection?  (I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely curious. I have heard nothing from any school [uh yeah, you just applied, dummy!] so I don't know what any of it really feels like.  Geeze, I sound like I'm on a reality show.  See? I've got the BITTER part down pat.)
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: Groundhog on February 08, 2007, 11:21:46 PM
So...

Deferral = We've looked at your app and dont want to make a decision. (Doesn't this basically put you in the same place as when you first applied [they can still say yes or no] except that they've put off flat out rejecting you for now? Am I missing something?)

Waitlist = We've basically decided no, except that if we can't fill our seats there's a small chance we'll call you up to see if you're still interested.

Yes, no, maybe, totally wrong?

Sounds right to me.

So why do people get so dang happy with deferrals? Because it's a step up "for now" from a rejection?  (I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely curious. I have heard nothing from any school [uh yeah, you just applied, dummy!] so I don't know what any of it really feels like.  Geeze, I sound like I'm on a reality show.  See? I've got the BITTER part down pat.)

You are once again correct. For example(I have only one): While I wasn't "thrilled" with my Berkeley deferral, I was pleased considering my GPA and the fact that they will now take an in-depth look at my application, rather than summarily rejecting me. At least you know someone is taking a look.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: SilentSwirl on February 08, 2007, 11:22:52 PM
Ahhh... well see? That makes perfect sense. :)
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: LuvHurtz on February 08, 2007, 11:27:12 PM
So...

Deferral = We've looked at your app and dont want to make a decision. (Doesn't this basically put you in the same place as when you first applied [they can still say yes or no] except that they've put off flat out rejecting you for now? Am I missing something?)

Waitlist = We've basically decided no, except that if we can't fill our seats there's a small chance we'll call you up to see if you're still interested.

Yes, no, maybe, totally wrong?

Sounds right to me.

So why do people get so dang happy with deferrals? Because it's a step up "for now" from a rejection?  (I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely curious. I have heard nothing from any school [uh yeah, you just applied, dummy!] so I don't know what any of it really feels like.  Geeze, I sound like I'm on a reality show.  See? I've got the BITTER part down pat.)

I was deferred and I wasn't happy about it. But it made me feel better than an outright rejection. I was deferred at a school where I applied EA, and I was promised a decision by the beginning of April. So to me, it was just them saying we aren't sure we want you yet so we're gonna consider you with RD applicants. If we get someone better then no, but in case we don't we don't wanna let you go yet. So I would rather know by April than get wailisted and have to potentially ride it out through the summer (or just never hear anything at all).

And I feel you on the BITTER part.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: SilentSwirl on February 08, 2007, 11:37:59 PM
I was deferred and I wasn't happy about it. But it made me feel better than an outright rejection. I was deferred at a school where I applied EA, and I was promised a decision by the beginning of April. So to me, it was just them saying we aren't sure we want you yet. If we get someone better then no, but in case we don't we don't wanna let you go yet. So I would rather know by April than get wailisted and have to potentially ride it out through the summer (or just never hear anything at all).

And I feel you on the BITTER part.

Okay, so I can understand that perfectly well also. I would have to be Waitlisted at a heck of an amazing school in order to want to ride it out ALL SUMMER! Omg... That would suck. I plan on being out of the country over the summer and that would make me soooo nervous about finding housing etc! Gah.

And yeah. Bitter.

Edited: I took down all the reasons I am bitter because I just sounded like a whiney child.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: General2010 on February 09, 2007, 12:03:20 AM
At the same time, Texas basically deferred anyone who applied early and wasn't an auto-admit (because if they were auto-admits, they were accepted...). So At least in some school's cases, I think deferred just means you applied early, and need to be reviewed with the rest of the applicant pool.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on February 09, 2007, 05:42:39 AM
I think everyone's being too negative.


Deferral = They have accepted some people, but they have also REJECTED many people (even said that in my SECOND stupid kentucky "deferral"(they don't call it that)!), so they are choosing NOT to reject you.  Which is good.  No promises for the future, but it does give you an extra chance to persuade them.


Waitlist = We want you, but we don't have room right now, but we may have room later.  We'll let you know.

If they didn't want you at all, they wouldn't waitlist you.  It's almost a pat on the back, saying that you COULD be accepted, but there just isn't room for everyone and maybe some other person had a .01 higher GPA or something.

I wouldn't be happy or said about either.  Although, being waitlisted or even deferred for a time at a reach school feels good, b/c then you konw that you actually DID have a chance, y'know?
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: horgc01 on February 09, 2007, 09:16:52 AM
So deferral is something official the school sends you?  I have been waiting to hear from Rutgers N for almost 2 months.  Should I call or just shut my mouth and wait?
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: Jolie Was Here on February 09, 2007, 09:34:56 AM
Yeah, I agree that people are being too pessimistic (although I guess it IS that time of year.)  Last year I was waitlisted at four schools and didn't get rejected from any of them - accepted at two, withdrew from the other two.  Also, I got my two waitlist accepts by the end of April, although I think that was on the early side for the overall applicant pool.

I did get rejected from the one school that deferred me.  Ironically, that was the lowest ranked school of the bunch (by a long shot.)  So in my wisdom and maturity, I've just decided that they are a bunch of fucktards.  :D

Hang tight, ye borderline candidates!  Here's hoping!
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: struggles on February 14, 2007, 08:25:20 PM
Silly me, I was happy to be waitlisted at Hasting snd USF considering I have a 150 LSAT score...but I recently discovered how far my URM status and kick as LOR's, Resume and ExC got me...damn I should have been more ambitous, my only reach schools were Hastings and maybe USF, SCU, GSU and Pacific, but its not looking that way from the trend.
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: no name on February 16, 2007, 06:06:09 AM
Yeah, I agree that people are being too pessimistic (although I guess it IS that time of year.)  Last year I was waitlisted at four schools and didn't get rejected from any of them - accepted at two, withdrew from the other two.  Also, I got my two waitlist accepts by the end of April, although I think that was on the early side for the overall applicant pool.

THANK YOU. 

You seriously give me hope that it's not over.  I got waitlisted at four schools too (so far) and maybe I'm being stupid, but I'm staying optimistic.  If I get accepted at any two of those, I'll be pretty happy.  If one of the two that accept me just happen to be WAKE FORREST, I'd be... well VERY HAPPY. lol

Question, did you send any additional stuff to those schools?
Title: Re: Deferral v Waitlist
Post by: Jolie Was Here on February 16, 2007, 06:21:03 AM
Yeah, I agree that people are being too pessimistic (although I guess it IS that time of year.)  Last year I was waitlisted at four schools and didn't get rejected from any of them - accepted at two, withdrew from the other two.  Also, I got my two waitlist accepts by the end of April, although I think that was on the early side for the overall applicant pool.

THANK YOU. 

You seriously give me hope that it's not over.  I got waitlisted at four schools too (so far) and maybe I'm being stupid, but I'm staying optimistic.  If I get accepted at any two of those, I'll be pretty happy.  If one of the two that accept me just happen to be WAKE FORREST, I'd be... well VERY HAPPY. lol

Question, did you send any additional stuff to those schools?

I sent each of them a letter of continued interest almost immediately, and then nothing else.  I wouldn't follow that strategy, tho - it seems that the schools do want to hear from you periodically while you're in limbo.  When I got the call admitting me to the school I ended up attending, the dean of admissions mentioned that they weren't sure I was still out there since they hadn't heard a peep out of me (and it wasn't that long - I was waitlisted in February or March and admitted at the end of April!)  I just took the school at their word: when they said I wouldn't hear anything until April or May, I left them alone.  I wouldn't deluge them with calls or emails, but a check-in every other week or so is probably prudent.

Good luck!