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Applying to Law School => Law School Admissions => Topic started by: austinite on November 28, 2006, 06:23:19 AM

Title: Deferred
Post by: austinite on November 28, 2006, 06:23:19 AM
Just got the email from UT deferring my application to the regular applicant pool. Takes the wind out of me.

3.89,165
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: ButImAGilmore on November 28, 2006, 07:18:58 AM
Awww I'm sorry, but at least it wasn't a rejection!!
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: redacted on November 28, 2006, 07:34:02 AM
Sorry about that... in state or out of state? 
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: austinite on November 28, 2006, 07:49:05 AM
in state  >:(
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: DLish on November 28, 2006, 08:32:45 AM
received that e-mail too...around midnight.

lovely
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: iscoredawaitlist on November 28, 2006, 08:55:32 AM
Just got the email from UT deferring my application to the regular applicant pool. Takes the wind out of me.

3.89,165

oh goodness. i'm so sorry! I imagine i'll be joining you in the deferred (or worse) category soon then. when did you all apply/have your report requested?

Again, i'm really sorry. i hope the regular pool is kinder. I can't believe they'd reject a 3.89 with a 165 in state. I wonder if there actually is institutional bias at UT (despite what they write)
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: jer on November 28, 2006, 10:05:43 AM
that doesn't bode well for splitters

/no email as of yet,
but i'm sure gonna get smu in ed now
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: Drew P. Bottom on November 28, 2006, 10:06:21 AM
Looking at LSN, it seems that everyone deferred either has GPA/LSAT below the median (which is 3.6/166) or is a yield protect deferral (no ties to the state, both #s above 75%).

Maybe because of the new dean and the fact that UT median and 25% each rose a point last year, UT is trying to up their stats again and deferring everyone who is not above their median on both GPA and LSAT?  I would think once they run out of auto-admits they'll start taking splitters.

Agree with that. Sit tight for a bit and you'll probably be fine. They are probably just trying to accept well above their 50-75%s for now. As the months pass, you'll probably get an acceptance. AT THE SAME TIME, do what demingh said and look over your application to make sure you didn't make any egregious errors.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: jer on November 28, 2006, 10:08:47 AM
Looking at LSN, it seems that everyone deferred either has GPA/LSAT below the median (which is 3.6/166) or is a yield protect deferral (no ties to the state, both #s above 75%).

Maybe because of the new dean and the fact that UT median and 25% each rose a point last year, UT is trying to up their stats again and deferring everyone who is not above their median on both GPA and LSAT?  I would think once they run out of auto-admits they'll start taking splitters.

Agree with that. Sit tight for a bit and you'll probably be fine. They are probably just trying to accept well above their 50-75%s for now. As the months pass, you'll probably get an acceptance. AT THE SAME TIME, do what demingh said and look over your application to make sure you didn't make any egregious errors.

or....
you could take one for the team and withdraw your app and take that full ride to st mary's

/just sayin'
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: Cube Farmer on November 28, 2006, 10:39:30 AM
My application went complete in early October. I have not heard a word since. I really have no chance of getting in with my numbers though. I was not deferred, and certainly not accepted, so my rejection should be here soon enough.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: austinite on November 28, 2006, 10:47:34 AM
I don't have a full ride at st mary's like one person said, and there were no errors on my application. I have looked over it one hundred times. UT is my number one choice, by far.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: Drew P. Bottom on November 28, 2006, 10:55:02 AM
I don't have a full ride at st mary's like one person said, and there were no errors on my application. I have looked over it one hundred times. UT is my number one choice, by far.

In that case, I'd just wait patiently and not be a bother and your delayed acceptance will probably come in the mail in a few months. It sucks, but if it is your first choice, it'll be worth it when it comes.

Also, VERY good chance I'll be going there too (given in-state tuition) so I may see you there.

Not saying you ARE a bother, I just think some applicants have a way of calling up admissions offices all too often.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: heatherm on November 28, 2006, 11:10:48 AM
I also received the "Your application is being held" e-mail today.  UT is/was my first choice, but I realized going into it that my LSAT score was a little low (164, 3.95).  I am in-state, so I thought that would help.  Guess I'll just wait and see...  :-\
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: iscoredawaitlist on November 28, 2006, 11:58:13 AM
i'm not sure. i'd be interested to see the actual breakdown of it. While out of state applicants might generally be "more" qualified, the yield percent is way lower than those from in state. On LSN it was something like 8% of people who got accepted to UT out of state went whereas 40% went to UT in state.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: jer on November 28, 2006, 12:02:03 PM
I personally feel it was a miracle I was even moved to the regular applicant pool.  Compared to everyone else defered on LSN, my numbers are definetly lower.  Surely being in-state can't make that much of a difference?

where'd you find that fancy new 'tar?
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: austinite on November 28, 2006, 01:10:47 PM
I don't have a full ride at st mary's like one person said, and there were no errors on my application. I have looked over it one hundred times. UT is my number one choice, by far.

In that case, I'd just wait patiently and not be a bother and your delayed acceptance will probably come in the mail in a few months. It sucks, but if it is your first choice, it'll be worth it when it comes.

Also, VERY good chance I'll be going there too (given in-state tuition) so I may see you there.

Not saying you ARE a bother, I just think some applicants have a way of calling up admissions offices all too often.
I'm definitely not going to be calling them up and bothering them.  I will send them updated transcripts and an updated resume after this semester, so hopefully that will help.  I've been deferred, it stinks, but UT is my number one and I'll just be hoping that I get accepted during the regular applicant cycle!
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: Drew P. Bottom on November 28, 2006, 02:03:25 PM
You're doing the right thing. Keep your chin up, it will turn out fine.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: x on November 28, 2006, 03:17:41 PM
Just as an FYI.

2 years ago my daughter did EA/ED at UT.  They deferred her to regular admission.  She did not hear from them again until March - on the wait list.  She called the admin office - they had not taken anyone from the wait list for the past 3 years.

3.76/164/InState - with these numbers, 2 years ago, her chances were 50/50 of being accepted.  Hopefully things have changed for the better in the past 2 years.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: Nart on November 29, 2006, 02:52:53 AM
If you guys look on UT's website it says that applying ED won't give you an advantage over the regular applicants. Plus they'll defer some to make it fair for the regular applicants.

http://www.utexas.edu/law/depts/admissions/application/faqs.html
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: austin on November 29, 2006, 08:07:14 AM
I'm definitely not going to be calling them up and bothering them.  I will send them updated transcripts and an updated resume after this semester, so hopefully that will help.  I've been deferred, it stinks, but UT is my number one and I'll just be hoping that I get accepted during the regular applicant cycle!

Gee, I hope you have better luck with the regular cycle.

::good vibes::
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: parsley on November 29, 2006, 08:16:11 AM
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I don't have a full ride at st mary's like one person said, and there were no errors on my application. I have looked over it one hundred times.

Yeah, but looking it over 100 times won't tell you if your personal statement sucks.  You may think your essay about how you learned so much about the world on your study abroad in france is just wonderful.

I'd use this as a potential indicator of something wrong on the application and run, not walk, to the nearest bookstore to pick up Anna Ivey's book.  It's not too late to fix some of your other applications if there's something wrong.


Also, you say they're your #1 choice by far... did you tell them that anywhere?
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: Data on November 29, 2006, 08:26:33 AM
Just got the email from UT deferring my application to the regular applicant pool. Takes the wind out of me.

3.89,165

Wow seems like your numbers would have been right in there.  Plus aren't they waitlisting kinda soon?  Thought they took care of a good deal of acceptances before they started waitlisting.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: Data on November 29, 2006, 08:43:55 AM
Oh okay.  Well not sure if that's good or bad news for ya dude.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: iscoredawaitlist on November 29, 2006, 08:52:12 AM
Oh okay.  Well not sure if that's good or bad news for ya dude.

i imagine it's bad news, but it could be much worse.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: jer on November 29, 2006, 09:39:23 AM
If you guys look on UT's website it says that applying ED won't give you an advantage over the regular applicants. Plus they'll defer some to make it fair for the regular applicants.

http://www.utexas.edu/law/depts/admissions/application/faqs.html


honestly,
i think that's the PC answer.
realistically, from everything i've heard,
applying earlier in the cycle is an advantage because they are more 'free' with handing out spots to splitters or people with simply decent numbers and impressive soft factors.....the later in the cycle they get, with fewer spots left to hand out, the competition for those last few spots is worse, and they have an idea of who already has a spot and what those numbers are, so they have an idea of if they need to accept some insanely high numbers to make up for the middle-of-the-road peeps they accepted earlier with outstanding soft factors.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: tapper on November 29, 2006, 11:51:55 AM
FWIW also got the "hold" message 3.7ish 169 OOS.

Is OOS admission really THAT much tougher, or did they read my about-to-withdraw mind?
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: tapper on November 29, 2006, 12:35:27 PM
FWIW also got the "hold" message 3.7ish 169 OOS.

Is OOS admission really THAT much tougher, or did they read my about-to-withdraw mind?

Yours has "yield protect" written all over it.
Figured as much.  Texas is a great school, don't get me wrong...I just had my sights set elsewhere and a couple of the schools came through (thank God).  Still, I didn't think my #s were high enough to trip their yield protection.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: Cube Farmer on November 30, 2006, 04:44:10 PM
Well better to be deferred, I guess. I have been complete since Oct. 13th. I imagine I will receive my rejection letter any day now.
Title: Re: Deferred
Post by: Nart on December 01, 2006, 04:05:05 AM
Everytime I open up my email, I'm cringing in fear of the dreaded deferrence email. 

What makes it worse is that I'm a manic email checker.  Every half hour I HAVE to check my email.  This makes for an interesting show for my co-workers cuz I flip out every time, not to mention the mini heart attacks throughout the day. geez... :-\

Me too, and I'm a manic status checkers for those schools that have it.