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Title: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on November 23, 2006, 03:19:23 AM
Anyone applying for the scholarships at NYU? I think it's sort of odd how they make you submit additional essays/recommendations for these scholarships at the same time as your application rather than letting you send them in later. Also, I'm interested in a few of them, but I wonder if it would be weird to apply for all three. I'm thinking about applying for the Root-Tilden-Kern, the Furman, and the AnBryce, but I don't really relish the thought of doing three more essays (which will delay my applying further) and recruiting another recommender when I have no idea if I'll even get in...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: pikey on November 23, 2006, 05:16:18 AM
Anyone applying for the scholarships at NYU? I think it's sort of odd how they make you submit additional essays/recommendations for these scholarships at the same time as your application rather than letting you send them in later. Also, I'm interested in a few of them, but I wonder if it would be weird to apply for all three. I'm thinking about applying for the Root-Tilden-Kern, the Furman, and the AnBryce, but I don't really relish the thought of doing three more essays (which will delay my applying further) and recruiting another recommender when I have no idea if I'll even get in...

I want to apply to the law and business program, but have no idea what to write for the essay (describe your interest in law and business).  It's only one page, so I can't go too in depth, so I'm kind of at a loss at to how to approach it.  :(  Its been over 3 weeks since I've submitted my other apps, NYU is the only one still floating around.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on November 23, 2006, 05:52:19 AM
Anyone applying for the scholarships at NYU? I think it's sort of odd how they make you submit additional essays/recommendations for these scholarships at the same time as your application rather than letting you send them in later. Also, I'm interested in a few of them, but I wonder if it would be weird to apply for all three. I'm thinking about applying for the Root-Tilden-Kern, the Furman, and the AnBryce, but I don't really relish the thought of doing three more essays (which will delay my applying further) and recruiting another recommender when I have no idea if I'll even get in...

I want to apply to the law and business program, but have no idea what to write for the essay (describe your interest in law and business).  It's only one page, so I can't go too in depth, so I'm kind of at a loss at to how to approach it.  :(  Its been over 3 weeks since I've submitted my other apps, NYU is the only one still floating around.

That's my problem too...NYU is one of my last 2 left, and I want to get it in asap because its probably my top choice and my #'s are of a level where I need every boost I can get. I emailed a guy I know who goes there to ask him about this stuff, when he gets back to me ill let you know what he said.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: pigwidgeon on November 23, 2006, 06:30:50 AM
I applied for the Env law one and the RTK. It was hard work writing the extra essays, but worth a shot I thought. Especially tough as all three essays touched on environmental issues and my involvement.  I am not sure if my additional recommender has sent hers in yet, as I asked her to send directly and not through LSAC.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Electric Counterpoint on November 24, 2006, 09:08:27 AM
I was in the same boat as you a few weeks ago: sent all my other apps around the third week of September, but waited a month and a half polishing my 500-word essay for NYU. My advice: don't obsess, but do some searches on this board for previous info. For me, it was a little depressing (the people who get these scholarships are the kind of people who are then forced to choose between NYU and Yale, if you take my meaning...), but there's a lot of good info there.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: LAS on November 24, 2006, 02:49:14 PM
I am a current RTK scholar at NYU and would be happy to answer your questions about the program. Last year, I submited my root and NYU application completely separately - got NYU in by the end of October, and Root right before the deadline. I would call the admissions office and ask if they still accept it this way (I thought it was pretty unclear last year from the application's info).
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on November 25, 2006, 01:57:36 PM
I am a current RTK scholar at NYU and would be happy to answer your questions about the program. Last year, I submited my root and NYU application completely separately - got NYU in by the end of October, and Root right before the deadline. I would call the admissions office and ask if they still accept it this way (I thought it was pretty unclear last year from the application's info).

You just made my day. thank you thank you
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on December 06, 2006, 06:19:44 PM
Don't forget, also, that NYU doesn't have rolling admissions. Supposedly, there is no disadvantage to applying right before the Deadline, which is really close to NOW. Holy Crap, why am I on LSD and not working on my RTK essay?!??!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ęěĽ on December 06, 2006, 06:24:40 PM
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Juris Doctor (J.D.) Deadlines
ē    Regular Decision (Late April Decision): February 1
ē    Early Decision (Late December Decision): November 15
ē    Root-Tilden-Kern Scholarships and all Scholarships and Academic Scholars Programs: January 1
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Denny Crane on December 06, 2006, 07:23:43 PM
I applied to the Furman scholarship.  I didn't have too much trouble writing that essay, but I feel that my status as a current undergrad will work against me since "more experienced" applicants will probably have the edge in convincing NYU that they would make better candidates for law professorships, especially those who already have advanced degrees.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: LSAT Granddad on December 06, 2006, 09:23:41 PM
So does that means that as long as I can get my application in Dec, I will be fine with NYU. That is good to know. Thx yall.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on December 06, 2006, 09:27:36 PM
Just to update, when I called NYU they told me that I DID in fact have to send all parts of my app, including scholarship essays, in at once. That delayed my application by a few weeks...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on December 06, 2006, 09:37:27 PM
Just to update, when I called NYU they told me that I DID in fact have to send all parts of my app, including scholarship essays, in at once. That delayed my application by a few weeks...

At a law school fair, a representative told me the exact opposite of that. I was specifically told that I could send in my application for review right away and then send in scholarship essays later (by the scholarship deadline of course).

See, thats what the poster above said and thats what I thought would be smart. But when I called the office a couple weeks ago, they were happy.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: pikey on December 07, 2006, 06:31:55 AM
Just to update, when I called NYU they told me that I DID in fact have to send all parts of my app, including scholarship essays, in at once. That delayed my application by a few weeks...

At a law school fair, a representative told me the exact opposite of that. I was specifically told that I could send in my application for review right away and then send in scholarship essays later (by the scholarship deadline of course).

See, thats what the poster above said and thats what I thought would be smart. But when I called the office a couple weeks ago, they were happy.

I called them and they told me that I didn't have to send them in all at once.  But the guy I talked to also said that I had to have an additional lor, which I definitely didn't for the program that I'm applying to (law and business), so I'm not sure if he knew what was going on.  He was kinda abrupt too.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ljskate273 on December 13, 2006, 09:05:10 AM
For the RTK, does that mean we have to APPLY by Jan 1 or be complete by then???

I applied electronically w/ my RTK essay and 3rd rec on 12/7, report was requested and sent 12/8. Will I be considered? Because I'm thinking that given NYU's trends, I won't be complete by January...

Someone please let me know! Thank you!!!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Denny Crane on January 31, 2007, 04:42:17 PM
I applied for the AnBryce scholarship.  Does anyone know if they've started making interview offers?  Also, did anyone here go through the interview last year?  What was it like?  I couldn't find anything concrete in a search.

I don't think interviews are held until April, so invite will probably come shortly before that (once the RD decisions are sent out).
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on January 31, 2007, 04:44:25 PM
I applied for the AnBryce scholarship.  Does anyone know if they've started making interview offers?  Also, did anyone here go through the interview last year?  What was it like?  I couldn't find anything concrete in a search.

I think the uninformed consensus that we came to would be that you will likely be notified of admission before getting an interview offer, but that the interview offers will all come in March.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on January 31, 2007, 06:44:14 PM
I was going to apply for the IP scholars program, but they want IP law experience, not interest. Excuse me, but isn't that what you're going to law school for? To learn the law?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on January 31, 2007, 10:02:11 PM
email from NYU explaining the scholarship process:

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Congratulations once again on your admission to the New York University School of Law.

Thank you for your scholarship application. We have forwarded your application and essay(s) to the appropriate scholarship selection committee.

Please note that all students who wish to be considered for any institutional scholarship awards, including the program specific scholarships, are asked to complete the NYU School of Law Financial Aid application.  This application will be available at www.law.nyu.edu/depts/financialaid beginning in mid-February.

The notification process for the specific Scholarships and Academic Scholars Programs will be as follows:

Root-Tilden-Kern, Sinsheimer Service, Jacobson Public Service for Women, Children and Families, Lindemann Family Public Service, and Filomen M. D'Agostino Scholarship:  Applicants selected for on-campus interviews at the NYU School of Law will receive notification by March 16, 2007. Interviews will be conducted on Saturday, March 31, 2007.

AnBryce Scholarship: Applicants selected for interviews will receive notification by mid-March. Interviews will be conducted on Wednesday or Thursday, March 28, 2007 or March 29, 2007.

Bickel and Brewer Latino Institute for Human Rights Scholarship:  Applicants selected for interviews will receive notification by mid-March. Interviews will be conducted on Saturday, March 31, 2007.

Furman Academic Scholarship: Furman Academic Scholarship finalists will be contacted by the selection committee for an on-campus interview at the NYU School of Law by April. Interviews will be conducted on Monday, April 16, 2007 and Tuesday, April 17, 2007.  Scholarship awards will be made shortly after the interviews.

Institute for International Law and Justice Scholars Program: All IILJ Scholars Program finalists are strongly encouraged (where practical) to arrange to visit the Law School for IILJ Scholars Program and admitted student events on Thursday, April 12, 2007 and Friday, April 13, 2007.  Scholarship offers will be made no later than one week after this.

Academic Scholars Programs in Criminal Law, Environmental Law, Housing and Urban Policy, Intellectual Property Law, Leadership in Law and Business, or Law and Economics:  Finalists are expected to be available for an interview on Saturday, April 14, 2007.  Scholarship offers will be made shortly after the interviews.

Best of luck on your scholarship application!

NYU School of Law
Office of Admissions

hope that helps clear things up for people.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on February 01, 2007, 05:02:29 AM
BTW, did you get that email just after your acceptance?  I'm trying to determine if I should be concerned that I haven't heard anything from them about it...

I received mine 1 month after admission.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on February 01, 2007, 07:35:20 AM
I applied for a few of those scholarships; does anyone know what are the chances of receiving one of those awards if you have been asked to interview?  Also have many people are asked to interview each year?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on February 01, 2007, 03:20:00 PM
BTW, did you get that email just after your acceptance?  I'm trying to determine if I should be concerned that I haven't heard anything from them about it...
2/3 weeks afterwards.

and re: the question about the chances if you get interviewed - somewhere on this thread or another was someone who was an RTK scholar who said he'd answer questions.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 07, 2007, 07:19:04 AM
soooo? has anyone heard anything yet? i am anxiously awaiting to find out whether or not i got an iilj scholarship? do you think if we don't hear by the end of next week that means we're not finalists?

that email that went out never said when you would hear if you were a finalist for the iilj scholarship, only when you would hear after the interview....
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 07, 2007, 08:02:55 AM
soooo? has anyone heard anything yet? i am anxiously awaiting to find out whether or not i got an iilj scholarship? do you think if we don't hear by the end of next week that means we're not finalists?

that email that went out never said when you would hear if you were a finalist for the iilj scholarship, only when you would hear after the interview....

I attended the Admitted Students Day at NYU, and the Financial Aid Officers said that they have started to contact the finalists on March 1st and should finish by March 15th.  So I guess if you donít hear by that day you are not a finalist.   I have applied for a few of those scholarships and so far nothing.  The FAO did say that the regular financial aid packages will come out on April 5th if you are not the finalist.  If you are the finalist you will hear about your package in mid April (April 16-19th I think). 
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 07, 2007, 11:22:10 AM
soooo? has anyone heard anything yet? i am anxiously awaiting to find out whether or not i got an iilj scholarship? do you think if we don't hear by the end of next week that means we're not finalists?

that email that went out never said when you would hear if you were a finalist for the iilj scholarship, only when you would hear after the interview....

I attended the Admitted Students Day at NYU, and the Financial Aid Officers said that they have started to contact the finalists on March 1st and should finish by March 15th.  So I guess if you donít hear by that day you are not a finalist.   I have applied for a few of those scholarships and so far nothing.  The FAO did say that the regular financial aid packages will come out on April 5th if you are not the finalist.  If you are the finalist you will hear about your package in mid April (April 16-19th I think). 

And all this time I thought I shouldn't yet be panicking.  Arghhhhhh!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jd2bee on March 07, 2007, 11:45:16 AM
I'm an AnBryce finalist!!!  WOohoo!!!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: pikey on March 07, 2007, 12:13:32 PM
I'm an AnBryce finalist!!!  WOohoo!!!

Congrats!!!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on March 07, 2007, 02:30:46 PM
anybody hear back re any other scholarships yet?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Denny Crane on March 07, 2007, 02:32:25 PM
I'm an AnBryce finalist!!!  WOohoo!!!

Me too!  I've got to interview with Clarence Thomas... :o

For as much as I respect him the least among top jurists, that's still damn awesome.  

Congrats to all who have moved forward with their scholarships!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: polaremu on March 07, 2007, 02:38:10 PM
Congrats to both of you! How did you they inform you?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jd2bee on March 07, 2007, 02:42:49 PM
I'm an AnBryce finalist!!!  WOohoo!!!

Me too!  I've got to interview with Clarence Thomas... :o

Oh geez!  Good luck.  I've got three federal judges in Oakland.  Yikes!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jd2bee on March 07, 2007, 02:52:38 PM
I got a phone call from the Director of Admissions.  Katluva, does it make you nervous that if you are accepted into the program, you have to accept or decline in 3 days?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: katluva33 on March 07, 2007, 03:19:57 PM
Definitely freaks me out, but I will have visited my other two top choices by that time and hopefully will have my finaid decisions from those schools.  I've already visited NYU.  I plan to get all my ducks in a row so that I know going in what I would do if I got the scholarship.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 09, 2007, 12:41:54 PM
Did anyone else hear from these scholarship committees in the past few days?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 09, 2007, 12:51:50 PM
Did anyone else hear from these scholarship committees in the past few days?

no  :-\
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on March 09, 2007, 12:56:21 PM
Me neither  :'(
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 09, 2007, 01:35:30 PM
good... i'm going to believe that maybe they haven't gotten to the other ones yet.... please please pleeeeeeease
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 09, 2007, 06:43:43 PM
good... i'm going to believe that maybe they haven't gotten to the other ones yet.... please please pleeeeeeease

either that or maybe after reading our scholarship essays they are revoking our acceptances.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on March 10, 2007, 12:49:55 AM
good... i'm going to believe that maybe they haven't gotten to the other ones yet.... please please pleeeeeeease

either that or maybe after reading our scholarship essays they are revoking our acceptances.

hahaha i was wondering about this....my scholarship essay was either slightly good or absolutely awful. i didnt want to submit it with my app, but they assured me they wouldnt look at it until scholarship time.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on March 10, 2007, 08:23:36 PM
I submitted mine with my app, but I think I forgot to title it.  I got an email from them asking me for my scholarship essay.  I just re-sent the essay, but with the proper "Scholarship essay" title.  Hehe, they probably thought I was including it with my app as an additional essay.  Now when they review my scholarship essay, I'll be instantly rejected for submitting the same essay.  Sigh  :'(
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 12, 2007, 12:56:51 PM
Any other finalists for NYU scholarships get notified today?  I have not heard anything but I also havent even met anyone on this board who applied to same the program as I did.  I feel like I am qualified to at least get an interview, but since I have no way of comparing myself to anyone else, I wonder in the back of my head if there isn't a former HUD secretary applying to the program.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rena123 on March 12, 2007, 04:50:39 PM
i applied for the rtk and i haven't heard anything yet.  they notify you if you don't get an interview too, right?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: katluva33 on March 13, 2007, 06:35:40 AM
I haven't heard back either, but I applied to one of the scholar programs that interview really late (last ASDay).

I don't know if all the scholarships have changed but AnBryce interview dates changed from March 28-29 to April 11, bleeding into the last ASD
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: que chido on March 13, 2007, 04:20:47 PM
Am I correct to say that no one on the board has been granted an RTK interview?  That reassures me somewhat that I don't need to panic just yet.  As someone else said, I think I'm definitely qualified for at least an interview, but I have nothing to compare it to.

I saw in one of last year's posts I think that there were around 57 people interviewed - does that sound right?  20 scholarships available, but some people may turn it down.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Don Corleone on March 13, 2007, 04:36:36 PM
No word yet for me about the Housing and Urban Policy Scholarship - Has anybody heard anything about this scholarship?  I am surprised that nobody has reported news given that interviews are only three weeks or so away.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Schruted on March 13, 2007, 07:50:10 PM
Anyone know if NYU gives any merit-based money for people who don't apply to their specific scholarship programs?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Ted Buckland, ESQ on March 13, 2007, 07:56:27 PM
You guys with Hamilton and Harvard offers should really withdraw from NYU and give the rest of us a shot at the NYU money...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 13, 2007, 07:58:36 PM
No word yet for me about the Housing and Urban Policy Scholarship - Has anybody heard anything about this scholarship?  I am surprised that nobody has reported news given that interviews are only three weeks or so away.

I applied for RTK and Housing and Urban Policy.  I haven't heard anything about anyone getting these interviews.  I do know that they are administered by the same professor.  Heck, Don, you are the first person that I've found that even applied to the HUP scholarship other than me.  Now I'm kind of curious about the competition.  ;)  Seriously though, good luck.  Do you think you'll attend NYU if you don't get a scholarship?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jimfoolery on March 13, 2007, 08:08:31 PM
Anyone know if NYU gives any merit-based money for people who don't apply to their specific scholarship programs?

I'm wondering the same thing.  Also, has anybody seen a tuition estimate for next year yet?  The budget on the website still uses last year's amount of $39K, but I'm sure it will shoot up to well past $40K for our class.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on March 13, 2007, 11:50:12 PM
Anyone know if NYU gives any merit-based money for people who don't apply to their specific scholarship programs?

According to LSN last cycle, there were a number of people who received amounts ranging from 30k to 90k. These amounts seem too low to be the named scholarships so I'm guessing it's other merit awards.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Team Pam on March 14, 2007, 07:53:50 AM
Anyone know if NYU gives any merit-based money for people who don't apply to their specific scholarship programs?

I believe they call them Dean's Scholarships (so original!), but it doesn't seem like any have been given out yet this cycle.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 14, 2007, 07:57:42 AM
Anyone know if NYU gives any merit-based money for people who don't apply to their specific scholarship programs?

I believe they call them Dean's Scholarships (so original!), but it doesn't seem like any have been given out yet this cycle.

I would imagine they would come with the financial aid packages, which I gather are coming out around April 4th for non-finalists.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 16, 2007, 08:33:53 AM
Anyone heard anything yet? The Financial Aid officer said that all the notifications should be done by March 15th, so that was yesterday and still nothing for me.  I highly doubt that absolutely everyone on this board would not get an interview; I mean we have some great people here.  So do you guys think that they are just running behind?  Anyone has some free time to contact the Financial Aid or the Admissions office to find out? 
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 16, 2007, 10:39:45 AM
Anyone heard anything yet? The Financial Aid officer said that all the notifications should be done by March 15th, so that was yesterday and still nothing for me.  I highly doubt that absolutely everyone on this board would not get an interview; I mean we have some great people here.  So do you guys think that they are just running behind?  Anyone has some free time to contact the Financial Aid or the Admissions office to find out? 

There were a couple people who had AnBryce interviews, but yeah, it does seem weird to me that there is nobody here with interview notifications.  Maybe ought to check on the other law school sites and see if there is anything poppin over there.

I'm not shocked that I won't be receiving a RTK, but damn, I thought I would least get an interview for Housing and Urban Policy, I mean that's all I've been doing in undergrad, plus a city housing agency internship, plus a housing law UG thesis, plus community organizing experience.  Maybe my essay was just awful?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 16, 2007, 11:25:24 AM
I've been selected to interview for the scholarship program in law and business.  Found out yesterday via email.

Congrats!

I going to count this as promising for all of us.  I mean, if you can hear yesterday, then it's possible that someone else could hear today, right!??
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: que chido on March 16, 2007, 02:23:05 PM
Is it time to give up hope yet? 
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Yjkpx on March 16, 2007, 02:33:29 PM
Does NYU match scholarships from other schools?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: katluva33 on March 16, 2007, 02:35:47 PM
FWIW, I was at the finaid session where Mar 15 was mentioned, and it was mentioned specifically in reference to RTK.  They may or may not be using that deadline for other scholarships.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on March 16, 2007, 03:12:07 PM
I'm giving up hope.  This the end, my friends.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 16, 2007, 03:28:21 PM
FWIW, I was at the finaid session where Mar 15 was mentioned, and it was mentioned specifically in reference to RTK.  They may or may not be using that deadline for other scholarships.

Little tiny sparkles of hope are regrouping in my heart.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ouchitburns on March 16, 2007, 03:32:43 PM
tag
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: xk on March 17, 2007, 06:37:31 AM
I got an email for a RTK interview on Feb. 23rd. 
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: pikey on March 17, 2007, 08:30:45 AM
I got an email for a RTK interview on Feb. 23rd. 

Did they offer to pay for your hotel?  Rumour has it that this was offered to certain people...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: xk on March 17, 2007, 09:00:58 AM
I got an email for a RTK interview on Feb. 23rd. 

Did they offer to pay for your hotel?  Rumour has it that this was offered to certain people...

yes and travel reimbursement
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: pikey on March 17, 2007, 09:02:54 AM
I got an email for a RTK interview on Feb. 23rd. 

Did they offer to pay for your hotel?  Rumour has it that this was offered to certain people...

yes and travel reimbursement

That's not fair.  ;)  Do you think if I called them they might be open to providing hotel accomodations?  Hotel in NYC is ridiculously expensive...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on March 17, 2007, 10:23:03 AM
FWIW, I was at the finaid session where Mar 15 was mentioned, and it was mentioned specifically in reference to RTK.  They may or may not be using that deadline for other scholarships.

Is it advisable to bring award letters from peer schools to the ASW finaid session?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: brett83 on March 18, 2007, 05:46:54 AM
Does anyone know how many finalists are chosen for each program, roughly?
And how many are selected as final scholars?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 19, 2007, 11:04:50 AM
Did anyone hear anything about the Law & Economics scholarship or the Furman scholarship? 

By the way, congrats to all who got the invitation for the final interview!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on March 19, 2007, 01:50:42 PM
no scholarship interviews for me =(
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on March 19, 2007, 04:32:00 PM
For people in at NYU, does the admitted students website work? Did it work right after you got admitted?

https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm (https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 19, 2007, 05:46:08 PM
For people in at NYU, does the admitted students website work? Did it work right after you got admitted?

https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm (https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm)

It took about two weeks before I could access it.  You just gotta have a lil patience.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on March 19, 2007, 05:53:27 PM
For people in at NYU, does the admitted students website work? Did it work right after you got admitted?

https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm (https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm)

It took about two weeks before I could access it.  You just gotta have a lil patience.

I'm not admitted... I just thought it would be a good way to check if I was. :) I'm patient (to a point), but three two things make me want to know ASAP:
1. I changed my address and I'm worried that they didn't change it. The post office sometimes takes >2 wks to forward my stuff (if they do at all)!
2. Looming seat deposit deadlines.
3. Getting financial aid info. to them ASAP. I can't afford to take out everything in loans... I need some grants!

Anyway, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jimfoolery on March 19, 2007, 05:59:01 PM
For people in at NYU, does the admitted students website work? Did it work right after you got admitted?

https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm (https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm)

Mine worked the day I got the acceptance, but the letter did warn that it may take a few days.  If I were you I would try (and fail) to ignore the site, since it will probably tell you nothing and make you neurotic.  Abandoning hope actually seemed to trigger my acceptance, so you might try that as well.  Regardless, I'm sure you're going to get in soon.  

Edit: And when I say I had abandoned hope, I mean I would approach the mailbox each day mentally mocking my former idealistic self for hoping for an NYU acceptance, like "Oh yeeeah, maybe there'll be a magical purple folder in here from NYU, sure idiot."  *Shivers*
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on March 19, 2007, 06:10:04 PM
For people in at NYU, does the admitted students website work? Did it work right after you got admitted?

https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm (https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm)

Mine worked the day I got the acceptance, but the letter did warn that it may take a few days.  If I were you I would try (and fail) to ignore the site, since it will probably tell you nothing and make you neurotic.  Abandoning hope actually seemed to trigger my acceptance, so you might try that as well.  Regardless, I'm sure you're going to get in soon. 

Edit: And when I say I had abandoned hope, I mean I would approach the mailbox each day mentally mocking my former idealistic self for hoping for an NYU acceptance, like "Oh yeeeah, maybe there'll be a magical purple folder in here from NYU, sure idiot."  *Shivers*

That's hilarious. I try to do the same thing, but I always end up inflating my hope right before I turn the key.

Congrats, btw!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jimfoolery on March 19, 2007, 06:11:32 PM
For people in at NYU, does the admitted students website work? Did it work right after you got admitted?

https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm (https://its.law.nyu.edu/admitted/login/login.cfm?dest=/admitted/index.cfm)

Mine worked the day I got the acceptance, but the letter did warn that it may take a few days.  If I were you I would try (and fail) to ignore the site, since it will probably tell you nothing and make you neurotic.  Abandoning hope actually seemed to trigger my acceptance, so you might try that as well.  Regardless, I'm sure you're going to get in soon. 

Edit: And when I say I had abandoned hope, I mean I would approach the mailbox each day mentally mocking my former idealistic self for hoping for an NYU acceptance, like "Oh yeeeah, maybe there'll be a magical purple folder in here from NYU, sure idiot."  *Shivers*

That's hilarious. I try to do the same thing, but I always end up inflating my hope right before I turn the key.

Another week or two of nothing but Cooley pamphlets should get you there. 
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on March 19, 2007, 06:17:17 PM

Another week or two of nothing but Cooley pamphlets should get you there. 

I don't get those. Am I unprestigious?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jimfoolery on March 19, 2007, 06:23:20 PM

Another week or two of nothing but Cooley pamphlets should get you there. 

I don't get those. Am I unprestigious?

That must be it.  It's really quite infuriating when the Cooley pamphlet is your only item of mail, especially after a rough patch of waitlists and rejections.  Plus, their creepy tagline is "Cooley, everywhere you are."  NO!!!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on March 19, 2007, 06:42:44 PM

Another week or two of nothing but Cooley pamphlets should get you there. 

I don't get those. Am I unprestigious?

That must be it.  It's really quite infuriating when the Cooley pamphlet is your only item of mail, especially after a rough patch of waitlists and rejections.  Plus, their creepy tagline is "Cooley, everywhere you are."  NO!!!

They're behind me right now, aren't they?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jimfoolery on March 19, 2007, 06:49:26 PM

Another week or two of nothing but Cooley pamphlets should get you there. 

I don't get those. Am I unprestigious?

That must be it.  It's really quite infuriating when the Cooley pamphlet is your only item of mail, especially after a rough patch of waitlists and rejections.  Plus, their creepy tagline is "Cooley, everywhere you are."  NO!!!

They're behind me right now, aren't they?

Probably not; you'd smell the stench of desperation on their breath.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 19, 2007, 10:48:18 PM
ok so im just going to assume that *no one* got an interview for the international law and justice program? how could no one on this board get an interview...

confused but relieved.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 20, 2007, 03:14:09 AM
ok so im just going to assume that *no one* got an interview for the international law and justice program? how could no one on this board get an interview...

confused but relieved.

That's the thing, it seems like there are so few people who got called for academic scholars program interviews that there must be more coming.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on March 20, 2007, 06:44:47 AM
ok so im just going to assume that *no one* got an interview for the international law and justice program? how could no one on this board get an interview...

confused but relieved.

That's the thing, it seems like there are so few people who got called for academic scholars program interviews that there must be more coming.

Yea, with the quality of people on this board, i find it hard to believe that there is only ONE rtk interviewee here.

(or at least thats my futile prayer)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on March 21, 2007, 08:47:43 AM
Got an email saying I'm a finalist for the Intellectual Property Scholarship.

This year, they aren't doing interviews for this particular program. Just going to notify applicants in mid-April. Worries me a bit, basically they are just going to analyze mine and everyone else's 500 word essay for a month (again, since they already reviewed them to make finalist choices).
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 21, 2007, 09:13:40 AM
hmmm... fascinating! perhaps they will be doing the same thing for IILJ.

did you just get this email? why is NYU SO FAR BEHIND....
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on March 21, 2007, 09:23:55 AM
Got an email saying I'm a finalist for the Intellectual Property Scholarship.

This year, they aren't doing interviews for this particular program. Just going to notify applicants in mid-April. Worries me a bit, basically they are just going to analyze mine and everyone else's 500 word essay for a month (again, since they already reviewed them to make finalist choices).

Wow, congrats! Do you have experience in IP already?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: another_prelaw on March 21, 2007, 10:56:11 AM
:( I was holding out hope for the IP.  Oh well...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 21, 2007, 11:00:54 AM
Holy crap! 

Got an email saying I'm a finalist for the Intellectual Property Scholarship.

This year, they aren't doing interviews for this particular program. Just going to notify applicants in mid-April. Worries me a bit, basically they are just going to analyze mine and everyone else's 500 word essay for a month (again, since they already reviewed them to make finalist choices).

When did you get the email Funky?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on March 21, 2007, 11:41:18 AM
I got the email at precisely 10:21am this morning. I had given up cuz they said they would notify one month before the interview...the interview that now no longer takes place.

As for my IP background, beyond an BS in EE not much (uh-oh, shouldn't have said that). I'm coming out of UG. I have some work and research experience during the summers, my EE GPA is pretty high (as you can see on my LSN), and I think my 500 word essay was decent.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on March 21, 2007, 11:50:43 AM
I got the email at precisely 10:21am this morning. I had given up cuz they said they would notify one month before the interview...the interview that now no longer takes place.

As for my IP background, beyond an BS in EE not much (uh-oh, shouldn't have said that). I'm coming out of UG. I have some work and research experience during the summers, my EE GPA is pretty high (as you can see on my LSN), and I think my 500 word essay was decent.

Damn! I rescinded my app for this because it said "significant experience in IP" or something. I have pretty much the exact same background as you. I didn't want to write an essay for nothing. Well, it looks like it would have been for nothing anyway since I haven't been accepted yet.

Anyway, good luck to you!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 21, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
congrats! ugh why is NYU being so random with all this...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: JuanTwoThree on March 21, 2007, 03:13:03 PM
Got an email saying I'm a finalist for the Intellectual Property Scholarship.

This year, they aren't doing interviews for this particular program. Just going to notify applicants in mid-April. Worries me a bit, basically they are just going to analyze mine and everyone else's 500 word essay for a month (again, since they already reviewed them to make finalist choices).

Do you know the likelihood of a finalist receiving some financial assistance?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on March 21, 2007, 04:34:12 PM
ok so im just going to assume that *no one* got an interview for the international law and justice program? how could no one on this board get an interview...

confused but relieved.

That's the thing, it seems like there are so few people who got called for academic scholars program interviews that there must be more coming.

you guys realize that nobody gets interviewed for the IILJ scholarship, right?  it's just the essay.

My discontent is more in regard to the academic scholars programs.  I wish I could at least get an email that says, sorry, you're out.  Or even a Corleone-like kiss on the cheek, to let me know that I broke their hearts.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on March 21, 2007, 04:45:23 PM
Anyone know how much need-based aid NYU gives out?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 22, 2007, 06:47:08 AM
ok so im just going to assume that *no one* got an interview for the international law and justice program? how could no one on this board get an interview...

confused but relieved.

That's the thing, it seems like there are so few people who got called for academic scholars program interviews that there must be more coming.

you guys realize that nobody gets interviewed for the IILJ scholarship, right?  it's just the essay.

wait-- how do you know this? are you a finalist? still, no one i know of on this site has been contacted as a finalist.... you think there's still a chance they're not done with that stuff?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 22, 2007, 09:36:34 AM
no, that email that went out a few weeks ago specifically referred to "finalists" as being encouraged to come that weeekend. interesting...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Electric Counterpoint on March 28, 2007, 09:14:05 PM
ok so im just going to assume that *no one* got an interview for the international law and justice program? how could no one on this board get an interview...

confused but relieved.

Yeah, I haven't heard anything and I was sorta kinda hopeful for a finalist nod. I definitely can't be at the ASW this weekend, so my odds weren't good anyway, but still -- shoot.

Makes the decision easier, I guess.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on March 30, 2007, 11:24:03 AM
Well I got my financial offer from NYU today:

I got the Dean's Award scholarship which ends up totaling $62,500 unless I do public interest my 2L summer, which would net me $75,000 total.

Other than that I got the full $20,500 in stafford loans but no grants or anything else.  I need to take out $15,000+ in private loans. 
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on March 30, 2007, 11:36:41 AM
Well I got my financial offer from NYU today:

I got the Dean's Award scholarship which ends up totaling $62,500 unless I do public interest my 2L summer, which would net me $75,000 total.

Other than that I got the full $20,500 in stafford loans but no grants or anything else.  I need to take out $15,000+ in private loans. 

Pretty good, but that offer does not even hold a candle to what Stanford gave you!  Nice job on the money front, btw.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 30, 2007, 11:37:23 AM
still that's pretty freaking awesome! congrats! i'm really hoping to get even a fraction of that...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on March 30, 2007, 11:43:46 AM
Thanks, it's a great offer and it's just shocking to me.  It really can't compete with Stanford's though because the rest of my estimated cost at Stanford is covered by federal loans.  I don't have to take out any private loans, which is really nice.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on March 30, 2007, 11:47:39 AM
Apparently NYU wasn't kidding about UP TO FULL TUITION when describing their Academic Scholar's Program.

I just got the IP Award...but the joke's on me. The award is just 25k over 3 years.

Edit: Clearly eliminating the interview process means this "program" is just tacking on a name to a no-named award. Oh yeah, they're giving me a shorter deadline to respond too (April 11th vs. May 4th).
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 30, 2007, 12:16:11 PM
boo... ok can we discuss how I think i just foreited my right to the IILJ even I were to get it, which nobody on this board seems to have even been a finalist for? the admissions office told me that if i wanted to defer a year i'd have to request to do so NOW NOW NOW. and so i did, and i just found out, they are letting me take a year off WHICH IS GREAT... but now I don't know if I'm sitll eligible for the scholarship!?!?!? ugh. anyone know how this works?

i know for gtown, if they give me a year off they just take me out of the admitted pile and i just have to completely reapply for aid next year... but i dunno how NYU does it.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on March 30, 2007, 12:21:50 PM
boo... ok can we discuss how I think i just foreited my right to the IILJ even I were to get it, which nobody on this board seems to have even been a finalist for? the admissions office told me that if i wanted to defer a year i'd have to request to do so NOW NOW NOW. and so i did, and i just found out, they are letting me take a year off WHICH IS GREAT... but now I don't know if I'm sitll eligible for the scholarship!?!?!? ugh. anyone know how this works?

i know for gtown, if they give me a year off they just take me out of the admitted pile and i just have to completely reapply for aid next year... but i dunno how NYU does it.

I remember reading somewhere that the named scholarships cannot be deferred, and to apply only during the year you intend to enroll.  I tried to find the link for you, but nada.  Also, I'm pretty sure this was in relation to either the IP scholarship and/or the AnBryce.  not sure if it applies to IILJ.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jd2bee on March 30, 2007, 12:31:10 PM
boo... ok can we discuss how I think i just foreited my right to the IILJ even I were to get it, which nobody on this board seems to have even been a finalist for? the admissions office told me that if i wanted to defer a year i'd have to request to do so NOW NOW NOW. and so i did, and i just found out, they are letting me take a year off WHICH IS GREAT... but now I don't know if I'm sitll eligible for the scholarship!?!?!? ugh. anyone know how this works?

i know for gtown, if they give me a year off they just take me out of the admitted pile and i just have to completely reapply for aid next year... but i dunno how NYU does it.

I remember reading somewhere that the named scholarships cannot be deferred, and to apply only during the year you intend to enroll.  I tried to find the link for you, but nada.  Also, I'm pretty sure this was in relation to either the IP scholarship and/or the AnBryce.  not sure if it applies to IILJ.
The AnBryce is deferable, I asked
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on March 30, 2007, 01:30:06 PM
boo... ok can we discuss how I think i just foreited my right to the IILJ even I were to get it, which nobody on this board seems to have even been a finalist for? the admissions office told me that if i wanted to defer a year i'd have to request to do so NOW NOW NOW. and so i did, and i just found out, they are letting me take a year off WHICH IS GREAT... but now I don't know if I'm sitll eligible for the scholarship!?!?!? ugh. anyone know how this works?

i know for gtown, if they give me a year off they just take me out of the admitted pile and i just have to completely reapply for aid next year... but i dunno how NYU does it.

I remember reading somewhere that the named scholarships cannot be deferred, and to apply only during the year you intend to enroll.  I tried to find the link for you, but nada.  Also, I'm pretty sure this was in relation to either the IP scholarship and/or the AnBryce.  not sure if it applies to IILJ.
The AnBryce is deferable, I asked

Cool, it might be the IP scholarship then, or I'm just totally making stuff up  :).
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 31, 2007, 07:44:23 AM
I am a bit confused why people are already hearing about the financial aid offers, the website specifically states that the notification for NYU financial aid will begin on April 5th.  They also said it a number of times during the admitted students day weekend.   The notification for named scholarships should begin mid April.  So the fact that some people are hearing about the offers already seems weird.


Also how did you hear about the offerÖmail/email/phone call?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Whoday on March 31, 2007, 08:40:51 AM
I am a bit confused why people are already hearing about the financial aid offers, the website specifically states that the notification for NYU financial aid will begin on April 5th.  They also said it a number of times during the admitted students day weekend.   The notification for named scholarships should begin mid April.  So the fact that some people are hearing about the offers already seems weird.


Also how did you hear about the offerÖmail/email/phone call?


I got an e-mail notifying me that there had been an update to my financial aid application. It then linked to the financial aid website which had a letter notifying me of my award.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ouchitburns on March 31, 2007, 10:29:24 AM
the fin. aid officer said that she would be trying to get fin. aid decisions out earlier than the 5th. hopefully, over the weekend.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on March 31, 2007, 10:35:49 AM
I am a bit confused why people are already hearing about the financial aid offers, the website specifically states that the notification for NYU financial aid will begin on April 5th.  They also said it a number of times during the admitted students day weekend.   The notification for named scholarships should begin mid April.  So the fact that some people are hearing about the offers already seems weird.


Also how did you hear about the offerÖmail/email/phone call?


I got an e-mail notifying me that there had been an update to my financial aid application. It then linked to the financial aid website which had a letter notifying me of my award.


I got an email, same as whoday.  I wouldn't worry too much about NYU's dates, they never seem to be able to stick to them anyway.  They're probably just starting to send out the offers a little early.  Did you finish the financial aid application early, whoday?  I think I did it on the first possible day, which is probably why I got my offer this early.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 31, 2007, 12:54:02 PM
I just received the award package Ö. It is nothing compared to what other schools gave me.  I received a full scholarship from Northwestern and NYU gave me 37,000.  Does anyone know if people have been successful negotiating higher packages from NYU?  By the way I have already told them about my Northwestern award.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on March 31, 2007, 12:58:58 PM
I'm so mad at myself.  I finally got around to getting all the parent info from my mom this morning, and right after i submitted it, I saw a chart that told me if i had done it yesterday, i would have been in the 4/5 batch of letters; now i'm 4/15.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on March 31, 2007, 01:03:16 PM
I don't think NYU gives anything above tuition, which is 39K, so I doubt you'll get much more than you're getting...(btw, for need-based, I think that they, like most schools, require you to take out a minimum of the 20500 from fed. loans, so even if they did increase your scholarship, it'd only be the total student budget minus the fed loans...the difference would only work out to a couple of thousand a year)



I think she meant 37k over all 3 years, not 37k a year.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 31, 2007, 01:09:30 PM
Yes I meant 37 over three years, so 15 for the first 2 and 7 for the last one.  I am so mad about this, I read in this thread that people with much worse LSAT than me got much higher packages, that is unfair. 
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on March 31, 2007, 01:19:02 PM
Yes I meant 37 over three years, so 15 for the first 2 and 7 for the last one.  I am so mad about this, I read in this thread that people with much worse LSAT than me got much higher packages, that is unfair. 

heh.

1) life is unfair
2) a good number of people applied for and received one of the named scholarships
3) LSAT isn't everything
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 31, 2007, 01:34:56 PM
Yeah I know life is not fair, but there is random bad luck and there are systematic decisions that are made because of a certain controversial policy schools have pertaining to applicants (you know which one I am talking about).


But what ever.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on March 31, 2007, 01:39:53 PM
Apparently NYU wasn't kidding about UP TO FULL TUITION when describing their Academic Scholar's Program.

I just got the IP Award...but the joke's on me. The award is just 25k over 3 years.

Edit: Clearly eliminating the interview process means this "program" is just tacking on a name to a no-named award. Oh yeah, they're giving me a shorter deadline to respond too (April 11th vs. May 4th).

Congrats, dude!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on March 31, 2007, 01:40:17 PM
Yeah I know life is not fair, but there is random bad luck and there are systematic decisions that are made because of a certain controversial policy schools have pertaining to applicants (you know which one I am talking about).


But what ever.


Yep, but that belongs in a different forum.

What are your other choices besides NYU?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Glannon on March 31, 2007, 01:41:06 PM
I just received the award package Ö. It is nothing compared to what other schools gave me.  I received a full scholarship from Northwestern and NYU gave me 37,000.  Does anyone know if people have been successful negotiating higher packages from NYU?  By the way I have already told them about my Northwestern award.

Try to match to a Columbia/Chicago scholarship and they may blink.  I doubt NYU matches Northwestern, and I know for a fact that other schools like Berkeley do NOT match Northwestern.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on March 31, 2007, 01:45:07 PM
Yeah I may just do that, Michigan gave a pretty good offer.... It looks like I am not the only applicant who got a sub par financial aid package, I wonder if NYU is being cocky because of the recent rise in ratings.     
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 31, 2007, 02:09:52 PM
Yes I meant 37 over three years, so 15 for the first 2 and 7 for the last one.  I am so mad about this, I read in this thread that people with much worse LSAT than me got much higher packages, that is unfair. 

heh.

1) life is unfair
2) a good number of people applied for and received one of the named scholarships
3) LSAT isn't everything

is that really true about #2? I thought we had come to the consensus that that wasn't really the case. no one here got IILJ, there were like two anne brycepeople? or something like that? one IP award... thats all ive seen
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: dashrashi on March 31, 2007, 02:14:42 PM
Yes I meant 37 over three years, so 15 for the first 2 and 7 for the last one.  I am so mad about this, I read in this thread that people with much worse LSAT than me got much higher packages, that is unfair. 

heh.

1) life is unfair
2) a good number of people applied for and received one of the named scholarships
3) LSAT isn't everything

is that really true about #2? I thought we had come to the consensus that that wasn't really the case. no one here got IILJ, there were like two anne brycepeople? or something like that? one IP award... thats all ive seen

Considering sample size (applicants to NYU who post on LSD, applicants to one of these named scholarships, recipients of these named scholarships), it doesn't seem like that small a number.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Ted Buckland, ESQ on March 31, 2007, 02:23:31 PM
37K is pretty good for a T4. I hope I get that much.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: dashrashi on March 31, 2007, 02:32:03 PM
37K is pretty good for a T4. I hope I get that much.

Turns out all you need is a killer sense of entitlement! Good luck!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Team Pam on March 31, 2007, 02:38:47 PM
I just got a $50k Dean's Scholarship, broken down to 20/20/10.  What's crazy is that I'd still end up borrowing 130k.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Ted Buckland, ESQ on March 31, 2007, 02:41:43 PM
37K is pretty good for a T4. I hope I get that much.

Turns out all you need is a killer sense of entitlement! Good luck!

Well I dont anticipate having to borrow 180K, more like 100. And by the time we graduate, frugal jr. associates will be able to pay that off in 2 years.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on March 31, 2007, 02:42:26 PM
I just got a $50k Dean's Scholarship, broken down to 20/20/10.  What's crazy is that I'd still end up borrowing 130k.

I just got the same scholarship. This makes NYU vs. Michigan a really hard decision for me.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on March 31, 2007, 02:42:49 PM
For the email, does it link you back to the financial aid application page under the admitted students section? Is this where everyone is seeing their award amounts?

I forgot which email I used for the finaid app ???
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on March 31, 2007, 02:47:05 PM
I didn't see this mentioned before, but at least for my scholarship, I have to decide by April 11th. 11 days...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: dashrashi on March 31, 2007, 02:50:52 PM
Paaaaam, is this changing anything?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Team Pam on March 31, 2007, 03:51:54 PM
Paaaaam, is this changing anything?

 :-\  I kind of think maybe not.  If anything, it made me more sure that I don't want NYU, because my first thought was "crap, why didn't I get this before I wrote to Penn asking for money?"  I know that I'm practically the only person on this board who thinks this, but I really can't see myself spending three  years in the village.  If CLS gave me the same offer (ha), it would be a different ballgame.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: //// on March 31, 2007, 03:56:54 PM
Official - no money for Monkey. Not that I expected any.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on March 31, 2007, 04:01:23 PM
Paaaaam, is this changing anything?

 :-\  I kind of think maybe not.  If anything, it made me more sure that I don't want NYU, because my first thought was "crap, why didn't I get this before I wrote to Penn asking for money?"  I know that I'm practically the only person on this board who thinks this, but I really can't see myself spending three  years in the village.  If CLS gave me the same offer (ha), it would be a different ballgame.

me too..thus the reason i didn't even apply--but i'm from NY so i'm more blase about the village than others.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: dashrashi on March 31, 2007, 04:02:23 PM
Paaaaam, is this changing anything?

 :-\  I kind of think maybe not.  If anything, it made me more sure that I don't want NYU, because my first thought was "crap, why didn't I get this before I wrote to Penn asking for money?"  I know that I'm practically the only person on this board who thinks this, but I really can't see myself spending three  years in the village.  If CLS gave me the same offer (ha), it would be a different ballgame.

I of course disagree about the village but also of course wholeheartedly approve of your implicit love of Philadelphia. (You should totally email Penn anyway about the NYU money. What with the new rankings and all--that's the one language Penn really understands.)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Team Pam on March 31, 2007, 04:06:03 PM
Paaaaam, is this changing anything?

 :-\  I kind of think maybe not.  If anything, it made me more sure that I don't want NYU, because my first thought was "crap, why didn't I get this before I wrote to Penn asking for money?"  I know that I'm practically the only person on this board who thinks this, but I really can't see myself spending three  years in the village.  If CLS gave me the same offer (ha), it would be a different ballgame.

me too..thus the reason i didn't even apply--but i'm from NY so i'm more blase about the village than others.

Yeah, I'm not from NY, but I spent about half my life near enough to it (between living in a north NJ commuter town and going to college in Boston) that I've already had my days of partying in the village.  I don't really feel the need to go back to all the bars/record shops/etc that I frequented when I was underage.  ;)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Team Pam on March 31, 2007, 04:10:09 PM
Paaaaam, is this changing anything?

 :-\  I kind of think maybe not.  If anything, it made me more sure that I don't want NYU, because my first thought was "crap, why didn't I get this before I wrote to Penn asking for money?"  I know that I'm practically the only person on this board who thinks this, but I really can't see myself spending three  years in the village.  If CLS gave me the same offer (ha), it would be a different ballgame.

I of course disagree about the village but also of course wholeheartedly approve of your implicit love of Philadelphia. (You should totally email Penn anyway about the NYU money. What with the new rankings and all--that's the one language Penn really understands.)

Philadelphia is highly underrated.  Which is okay with me, because I like the diversity and don't really want the entire population of Brooklyn hipsters to invade and make it so I can never get tickets to shows.  :) 

(I'll probably write to Penn on Monday or Tuesday if I don't hear anything, because I checked and NYU gave me the same 4/11 deadline, and since I'm leaving the country on the 9th, I need to get this all figured out.)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on March 31, 2007, 04:24:13 PM
Yes I meant 37 over three years, so 15 for the first 2 and 7 for the last one.  I am so mad about this, I read in this thread that people with much worse LSAT than me got much higher packages, that is unfair. 

heh.

1) life is unfair
2) a good number of people applied for and received one of the named scholarships
3) LSAT isn't everything

is that really true about #2? I thought we had come to the consensus that that wasn't really the case. no one here got IILJ, there were like two anne brycepeople? or something like that? one IP award... thats all ive seen

Considering sample size (applicants to NYU who post on LSD, applicants to one of these named scholarships, recipients of these named scholarships), it doesn't seem like that small a number.

*not* sure i agree...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on March 31, 2007, 04:31:22 PM
For the email, does it link you back to the financial aid application page under the admitted students section? Is this where everyone is seeing their award amounts?

I forgot which email I used for the finaid app ???

Come on, someone please answer this.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Team Pam on March 31, 2007, 04:50:54 PM
For the email, does it link you back to the financial aid application page under the admitted students section? Is this where everyone is seeing their award amounts?

I forgot which email I used for the finaid app ???

Come on, someone please answer this.

The link in my email is to:

https://its.law.nyu.edu/finaid/awards/

And it tells you to log in with your SSN and password.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on March 31, 2007, 04:53:19 PM
I didn't see this mentioned before, but at least for my scholarship, I have to decide by April 11th. 11 days...

Also got the earlier acceptance date on my award notification. I'm sorry to vent too much but did anyone actually look at the cost of attendance (which was last year's figure, this year expect 2-4k increase) and expected contribution.

Like I know a few ppl where the expected contribution is only 1-2k (i.e. should qualify for need money) and got no money from NYU. In other words, NYU thinks its totally reasonable that a person take out 60k+ in loans per year, despite being in need.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on March 31, 2007, 05:30:13 PM
For the email, does it link you back to the financial aid application page under the admitted students section? Is this where everyone is seeing their award amounts?

I forgot which email I used for the finaid app ???

Come on, someone please answer this.

The link in my email is to:

https://its.law.nyu.edu/finaid/awards/

And it tells you to log in with your SSN and password.

Thanks!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jackietob on April 01, 2007, 08:54:22 AM
Did everyone else's award come with an April 11th deadline to accept?  I had been planning to visit NYU the week after that, and am headed to a different admit weekend on April 14 so there's no way I can commit by that date. Is anyone planning to ask for a deadline extension?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: quizzle16 on April 01, 2007, 09:12:21 AM
Yeah I had the same deadline for my Dean's Scholarship-I was planning to go to Boalt's admitted students day on the 13th and I'm planning on asking for a few more days before I make my final decision.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 01, 2007, 01:11:15 PM
Even the Dean's scholarship has an early deadline to accept? That's crazy! There's no way in hell that I'll be able to decide by 4/13... Chicago's ASW is on that day.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on April 01, 2007, 01:13:17 PM
Yeah, 4/11 deadline for me.  Sorry NYU, that's too early =/
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 01, 2007, 02:06:09 PM
Has anyone here gotten their fin aid email from NYU without any merit aid?

I'm wondering if my lack of a letter should be construed as an indication that I will be asked to pay full price.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Dental Directory on April 01, 2007, 05:04:39 PM
I haven't received an award e-mail either. Are they done with scholarship decisions?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on April 01, 2007, 05:07:38 PM
Has anyone here gotten their fin aid email from NYU without any merit aid?

I'm wondering if my lack of a letter should be construed as an indication that I will be asked to pay full price.

This person didn't:

Official - no money for Monkey. Not that I expected any.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Diecisiete on April 01, 2007, 05:13:32 PM
the deadline is strange. I'm planning on asking for an extension too.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: brett83 on April 01, 2007, 07:25:01 PM
the deadline is strange. I'm planning on asking for an extension too.

hey I got the award notice for one of the named scholarships and my letter also says to submit my intent to enroll and deposit by 4/11 -- so I am assuming that they've changed their intial policy mentioned in the website about having only three business days to respond to scholarship offers???

oh and a lot of people seem to be talking about asking for an extension of the deadline to NYU - I didn't even know you could do that! What's a legit reason to ask for a deadline? and what are the chances of one being granted?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Schruted on April 01, 2007, 10:09:47 PM
Paaaaam, is this changing anything?

 :-\  I kind of think maybe not.  If anything, it made me more sure that I don't want NYU, because my first thought was "crap, why didn't I get this before I wrote to Penn asking for money?"  I know that I'm practically the only person on this board who thinks this, but I really can't see myself spending three  years in the village.  If CLS gave me the same offer (ha), it would be a different ballgame.

"PENN MADE A MOVE ON YOU?!"
<throws glass at wall>

I just saw this Penn love out of you. I'm sure you'll be happy there, get a great education, blah, blah, blah, but I wish every good-humored person would go to NYU or Michigan with me.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Team Pam on April 01, 2007, 11:22:43 PM
Paaaaam, is this changing anything?

 :-\  I kind of think maybe not.  If anything, it made me more sure that I don't want NYU, because my first thought was "crap, why didn't I get this before I wrote to Penn asking for money?"  I know that I'm practically the only person on this board who thinks this, but I really can't see myself spending three  years in the village.  If CLS gave me the same offer (ha), it would be a different ballgame.

"PENN MADE A MOVE ON YOU?!"
<throws glass at wall>

I just saw this Penn love out of you. I'm sure you'll be happy there, get a great education, blah, blah, blah, but I wish every good-humored person would go to NYU or Michigan with me.

Hee!  I do really like Michigan, but the job opportunities there for my SO are pretty nonexistent.  I'm not sure who here is going to NYU (aside from Johnny), but it looks like there'll be a great crew at Mich next year.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 02, 2007, 06:13:34 AM
Barring longshot H or Y acceptances, I plan on being at NYU.  I'm hip, I promise.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 02, 2007, 06:20:57 AM
Hee!  I do really like Michigan, but the job opportunities there for my SO are pretty nonexistent.  I'm not sure who here is going to NYU (aside from Johnny), but it looks like there'll be a great crew at Mich next year.

After the March 28-30 CLS/NYU ASW tour, NYU has rocketed up to become my top choice. I can't make a final decision until I receive my financial aid offer from then, though. Hopefully I'll get something earlier this week rather than later. Now I'm kind of worried that I may have left something off the form... were we supposed to mail in our tax returns for consideration?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 02, 2007, 06:23:46 AM
Not so fast, Team Pam! UVA was AMAZING.

For those of you who did go to NYU this past weekend (or Thursday/Friday, whatever), how was it? Specifically the students, student/student relationships, student/faculty relationships... The thing I loved most about UVA was the supportive community atmosphere there seemed to be; did anyone get a sense of something similar at NYU? Especially if you visited UVA... care to compare the atmospheres of the 2, ignoring NYC v. Cville?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 02, 2007, 06:29:17 AM
Hee!  I do really like Michigan, but the job opportunities there for my SO are pretty nonexistent.  I'm not sure who here is going to NYU (aside from Johnny), but it looks like there'll be a great crew at Mich next year.

After the March 28-30 CLS/NYU ASW tour, NYU has rocketed up to become my top choice. I can't make a final decision until I receive my financial aid offer from then, though. Hopefully I'll get something earlier this week rather than later. Now I'm kind of worried that I may have left something off the form... were we supposed to mail in our tax returns for consideration?

No, all you need to do for NYU Fin aid is submit the FAFSA and fill out their institutional form. The financial aid award asks you to send in your/parent/spouse tax returns by May 15.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 02, 2007, 09:06:52 AM
Johnny,  Did you ask this same question in the admitted students listserv? 

In case not, I went to the NYU ASD and got a great feeling by the whole thing.  I can't compare it to UVA, but the faculty were very accessible.  I met with one faculty member at her office hours and we ended up talking for a while in what was, to me at least, a really interesting and helpful conversation.

The students were really friendly to us, even the students who had nothing to do with the event. And people seem to be very sociable and are friendly with a lot of other students.  There are a lot of impromtu conversations and passing greetings between students and faculty.

I would suggest that you make your choice based on location (I don't know where you are from, but I'm from NJ and can commute to NYU), $$$, and what you think you might be interested in studying.  The environment at NYU was great, and it sounds from you like the case was the same at UVA.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 02, 2007, 09:08:12 AM
Johnny,  Did you ask this same question in the admitted students listserv? 

In case not, I went to the NYU ASD and got a great feeling by the whole thing.  I can't compare it to UVA, but the faculty were very accessible.  I met with one faculty member at her office hours and we ended up talking for a while in what was, to me at least, a really interesting and helpful conversation.

The students were really friendly to us, even the student who had nothing to do with the event. And people seem to be very sociable and are friendly with a lot of other students.  There are a lot of impromtu conversations and passing greetings between students and faculty.

I would suggest that you make your choice based on location (I don't know where you are from, but I'm from NJ and can commute to NYU), $$$, and what you think you might be interested in studying.  The environment at NYU was great, and it sounds from you like the case was the same at UVA.

Ahh!!! You know my name!!!

Yeah, I'm just impatient, but after last week, I want to know NOW. I'll be at the NYU ASD next week, though, so it's not too far away.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on April 02, 2007, 09:20:24 AM
Just received email: $20k, $20k, $10k.

Check your emails!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: thetrianglekid on April 02, 2007, 09:31:20 AM
i got the same.  is that the highest they're giving?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 02, 2007, 10:00:12 AM
Hee!  I do really like Michigan, but the job opportunities there for my SO are pretty nonexistent.  I'm not sure who here is going to NYU (aside from Johnny), but it looks like there'll be a great crew at Mich next year.

After the March 28-30 CLS/NYU ASW tour, NYU has rocketed up to become my top choice. I can't make a final decision until I receive my financial aid offer from then, though. Hopefully I'll get something earlier this week rather than later. Now I'm kind of worried that I may have left something off the form... were we supposed to mail in our tax returns for consideration?

No, all you need to do for NYU Fin aid is submit the FAFSA and fill out their institutional form. The financial aid award asks you to send in your/parent/spouse tax returns by May 15.

Can you submit the institutional form before you are admitted?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Beamrag on April 02, 2007, 10:08:24 AM
I visited UVA on March 15 for the ASW, and just visited NYU on the 30th, and I have to say that I was more impressed with NYU than I was with UVA. When I left UVA, I remember thinking to myself that it seemed nice, I was sure I could have a good time there and enjoy myself, etc...but when I left NYU on Friday, there was no need to convince myself - I was *sure* that it could be a place for me.

Regarding the sense of community between the two schools, UVA might have a small lead there just because everyone seems so devoted to each other; I'm sure the 30-person sections and the fact that C-Ville isn't overwhelming contribute to that. But I also got a great sense of community at NYU. I talked to a lot of current students during the reception at the end of the day, and they all seemed incredibly down to earth, funny, and supportive of each other. It seems like there is a great sense of community around the journals, student organizations, and around your small class in your first year.

I also preferred the village a great deal over C-Ville, but that's nothing ground-breaking. Overall, I thought the faculty at both places seemed very accessible and interested in students, but I was just a bit more WOWed by NYU.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 02, 2007, 10:10:51 AM
I visited UVA on March 15 for the ASW, and just visited NYU on the 30th, and I have to say that I was more impressed with NYU than I was with UVA. When I left UVA, I remember thinking to myself that it seemed nice, I was sure I could have a good time there and enjoy myself, etc...but when I left NYU on Friday, there was no need to convince myself - I was *sure* that it could be a place for me.

Regarding the sense of community between the two schools, UVA might have a small lead there just because everyone seems so devoted to each other; I'm sure the 30-person sections and the fact that C-Ville isn't overwhelming contribute to that. But I also got a great sense of community at NYU. I talked to a lot of current students during the reception at the end of the day, and they all seemed incredibly down to earth, funny, and supportive of each other. It seems like there is a great sense of community around the journals, student organizations, and around your small class in your first year.

I also preferred the village a great deal over C-Ville, but that's nothing ground-breaking. Overall, I thought the faculty at both places seemed very accessible and interested in students, but I was just a bit more WOWed by NYU.

Thanks, that's very helpful! I get the feeling that I'm going to love NYU a lot, too, which will make my decision all the more difficult. Oh well; guess I'll find out in a week! Thanks!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Beamrag on April 02, 2007, 10:12:56 AM
No problem. Feel free to PM me if you have any more specific questions about what I thought about the two, as I'm making the same decision of UVA v NYU.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 02, 2007, 10:15:45 AM
Hee!  I do really like Michigan, but the job opportunities there for my SO are pretty nonexistent.  I'm not sure who here is going to NYU (aside from Johnny), but it looks like there'll be a great crew at Mich next year.

After the March 28-30 CLS/NYU ASW tour, NYU has rocketed up to become my top choice. I can't make a final decision until I receive my financial aid offer from then, though. Hopefully I'll get something earlier this week rather than later. Now I'm kind of worried that I may have left something off the form... were we supposed to mail in our tax returns for consideration?

No, all you need to do for NYU Fin aid is submit the FAFSA and fill out their institutional form. The financial aid award asks you to send in your/parent/spouse tax returns by May 15.

Can you submit the institutional form before you are admitted?

Hmm, probably not - but I'm not 100% sure, I got admitted well before the institutional form went live. You have to log in to the admitted students area, I think, to access the form.

Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on April 02, 2007, 11:10:18 AM
Quote
i got the same.  is that the highest they're giving?

No, I got $25k, $25k, $12.5k (or $25k again if I do PI work my 2L summer).

Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 02, 2007, 11:12:31 AM
Just received email: $20k, $20k, $10k.

Check your emails!

I got the same  amount via e-mail this morning. Good award but a little disappointed, considering how both Chicago and Penn either matched or one-upped NYU. Both Chicago and Philly have much lower costs of living, which means that NYU's award is much lower in actuality.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: turnitout on April 02, 2007, 11:13:20 AM
So I know that no one here knows the ins and outs of the award process, but am I right to be upset at getting nothing from NYU with a 172/4.0+?  ...I returned home from the ASD -- which I LOVED -- to find that they actually expect me to take out $60K in loans a year.  Did anyone else get zero?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: stjobs on April 02, 2007, 11:14:30 AM
173/3.9 and $15/15/7.5 here.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 02, 2007, 11:15:01 AM
So I know that no one here knows the ins and outs of the award process, but am I right to be upset at getting nothing from NYU with a 172/4.0+?  ...I returned home from the ASD -- which I LOVED -- to find that they actually expect me to take out $60K in loans a year.  Did anyone else get zero?

Nothing. I wasn't expecting anything.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: turnitout on April 02, 2007, 11:18:30 AM
I'd be okay with $37,500 .. I'd be okay with anything. I feel like zero = NYU doesn't really like me. Or maybe I'm just weird.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Ted Buckland, ESQ on April 02, 2007, 11:23:09 AM
Anyone who said that NYU's aid is anything but merit aid is terribly mistaken.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: //// on April 02, 2007, 11:23:25 AM
I'd be okay with $37,500 .. I'd be okay with anything. I feel like zero = NYU doesn't really like me. Or maybe I'm just weird.

Most schools give grants to approx 1/3 of their students. Does that mean that they hate the other 2/3?

I don't think there really is a need/merit based distinction for most schools. They just give tuition discounts to their top admits to make the school more attractive.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 02, 2007, 11:29:10 AM
I'd be okay with $37,500 .. I'd be okay with anything. I feel like zero = NYU doesn't really like me. Or maybe I'm just weird.

Without addressing the merits of your "zero=nyu doesn't really like me" conclusion  :-X, I suggest you try to get them to match offers from comparable schools.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: PrisonMike on April 02, 2007, 11:36:59 AM
do you all feel like they are done giving out merit aid?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ouchitburns on April 02, 2007, 11:39:23 AM
I got a little bit, but I am not sure it is enough.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: stjobs on April 02, 2007, 11:47:24 AM
Done? You aren't going to get a second amount after the initial offer. Not sure what the question is.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on April 02, 2007, 11:49:04 AM
I called admissions today. Apparently, I'm gonna get an offer on the 5th via email. Of course, it will probably be for nothing.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 02, 2007, 11:51:14 AM
Done? You aren't going to get a second amount after the initial offer. Not sure what the question is.

I think the question is:  If I haven't gotten my offer yet, does that mean that I'm not getting any aid?

I don't know the answer, but I'm guessing not since somewhere on the website I recall them mentioning that aid apps are considered roughly in order its received.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: quizzle16 on April 02, 2007, 12:38:29 PM
If you guys were still wondering about the March 30th NYU admitted students day, I really enjoyed it. The faculty was wonderful and the students seemed really happy. I'm also a big fan of the Village area, so that made me a little more biased. I'll probably go there this fall, barring any miracle scholarship money from Boalt.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: couchpotato39 on April 02, 2007, 01:32:14 PM
Did everyone else's award come with an April 11th deadline to accept?  I had been planning to visit NYU the week after that, and am headed to a different admit weekend on April 14 so there's no way I can commit by that date. Is anyone planning to ask for a deadline extension?

I got the 20,20,10 scholarship from NYU too (with the 4/11 deadline). I am still waiting to hear from HYS and would like to ask for an extension from NYU. What is a good way to ask for extension? Is it better to call or email?

btw, I just called Stanford today and was told that a decision had just been sent out... guess that is a ding.  They will call you if they accept you right?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: kirsten11235 on April 02, 2007, 01:38:26 PM
As you guys can tell from my posts I was a bit disgruntled about my NYU Financial Aid package.  :-[

Well I called them today, and I got the same response from both Financial Aid office and Admissions office.  You can file an appeal concerning your award, but they will not be able to look at it until May at the earliest.  Therefore you have to either reject or accept their current offer by April 11 and then hope for the best in May.  But obviously there is only a very slim chance that they might reconsider your offer after you have already agreed to attend the school.  

By the way, based on this information, I donít know if NYU will be very generous in terms of extending the acceptance deadline past April 11 for those of you who were hoping for this.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 02, 2007, 01:43:33 PM
If you guys were still wondering about the March 30th NYU admitted students day, I really enjoyed it. The faculty was wonderful and the students seemed really happy. I'm also a big fan of the Village area, so that made me a little more biased. I'll probably go there this fall, barring any miracle scholarship money from Boalt.

I went too.  In fact, I sat at the same table as stjobs for lunch.  I was the one trying to get the conversation going.  I didn't get a terribly lively bunch.  I think we were all nervous though.  Some nervous don't talk (most people), some nervous people talk more (that's me).  Anyways, I really enjoyed the visit too.  It basically confirmed the good impression that I already had.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Schruted on April 02, 2007, 01:46:15 PM
I didn't fill out any forms for NYU's scholarships. Just making sure, but I'm not getting anything, right?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 02, 2007, 01:48:44 PM
I didn't fill out any forms for NYU's scholarships. Just making sure, but I'm not getting anything, right?

If you didnt apply for the named scholarships, I think you can still get something else (this thread seems to have evolved from being about waiting to hear on named scholarships to being about what fin aid packages people are getting).

But you have to have filled out the fin aid form online in the admitted students section.  If you did that, then you could get something.  If you didn't, then I don't think you get anything.  They just assume that you'll be taking it out of your trust fund.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Schruted on April 02, 2007, 01:56:32 PM
I didn't fill out any forms for NYU's scholarships. Just making sure, but I'm not getting anything, right?

If you didnt apply for the named scholarships, I think you can still get something else (this thread seems to have evolved from being about waiting to hear on named scholarships to being about what fin aid packages people are getting).

But you have to have filled out the fin aid form online in the admitted students section.  If you did that, then you could get something.  If you didn't, then I don't think you get anything.  They just assume that you'll be taking it out of your trust fund.

Yeah... my parents said to not even bother, because I might look like a fool asking for financial aid.

Michigan gave me a lot of money without me filling anything out, so I was just wondering if NYU ever does that. I guess not.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on April 02, 2007, 02:09:00 PM
As you guys can tell from my posts I was a bit disgruntled about my NYU Financial Aid package.  :-[

Well I called them today, and I got the same response from both Financial Aid office and Admissions office.  You can file an appeal concerning your award, but they will not be able to look at it until May at the earliest.  Therefore you have to either reject or accept their current offer by April 11 and then hope for the best in May.  But obviously there is only a very slim chance that they might reconsider your offer after you have already agreed to attend the school.  

By the way, based on this information, I donít know if NYU will be very generous in terms of extending the acceptance deadline past April 11 for those of you who were hoping for this.


Add me to the disgruntled list. It is pretty ridiculous, the policy you just posted. They don't review appeals until well after the acceptance deadline. So basically the appeal is useless. If you reject the award, you wouldn't need an appeal. If you accept, what incentive do they have to adjust the amount?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 02, 2007, 02:17:35 PM
As you guys can tell from my posts I was a bit disgruntled about my NYU Financial Aid package.  :-[

Well I called them today, and I got the same response from both Financial Aid office and Admissions office.  You can file an appeal concerning your award, but they will not be able to look at it until May at the earliest.  Therefore you have to either reject or accept their current offer by April 11 and then hope for the best in May.  But obviously there is only a very slim chance that they might reconsider your offer after you have already agreed to attend the school.  

By the way, based on this information, I donít know if NYU will be very generous in terms of extending the acceptance deadline past April 11 for those of you who were hoping for this.


I agree that waiting until May to decide on appeals is pretty ridiculous.  >:( But I would be surprised if the bolded is true.  Did NYU actually tell you that people submitting appeals will not be given an extension so that they can consider the results of that appeal in their decision?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 02, 2007, 02:38:33 PM
Well I called them today, and I got the same response from both Financial Aid office and Admissions office.  You can file an appeal concerning your award, but they will not be able to look at it until May at the earliest.  Therefore you have to either reject or accept their current offer by April 11 and then hope for the best in May.  But obviously there is only a very slim chance that they might reconsider your offer after you have already agreed to attend the school.  

By the way, based on this information, I donít know if NYU will be very generous in terms of extending the acceptance deadline past April 11 for those of you who were hoping for this.

Sounds like they are trying to keep us from considering competing offers from peer schools. I've got to attend Chicago's ASW (4/13) and CLS' Monday event (4/16) before I can make a final decision, and if they don't extend the deadline it means that they're essentially trying to force my hand when I've got incomplete information.

I'm also planning on appealing (hey, it can't hurt to ask for more $$$), but now it looks like I won't get a decision before I have to make deposits.

ALl in all very disappointing :(
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 02, 2007, 02:47:37 PM
I'm tempted to think, good, more money for me.  But by 4/11, I'll probably already have my offer, so why do they need to know right now?  Most of their "top choice" students have been accepted long ago, and so presumably would be in the first batch of fin aid offers.  Something isn't adding up on this.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on April 02, 2007, 03:49:39 PM
aaaaaaaaaand just got the email. nothing for bonkers! not that surprised. oh well, i'm deferring a year anyway so it's not that relevant. also leaning towards gtown now.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: gemeg on April 02, 2007, 04:36:07 PM
yay! just got the e-mail and i think it sealed the deal for me!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: stjobs on April 02, 2007, 04:56:41 PM
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I went too.  In fact, I sat at the same table as stjobs for lunch.

Really? :-\ I don't really recall if anyone 'tried to get a conversation started.' Who were you?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 02, 2007, 05:41:50 PM
Wow, 10k/10k/5k. That makes it about as cheap as UVA... sonofabitch.

I haven't been yet, I'm RSVPed for the April 13 ASW. I'm not expecting to get it though, so I have no idea what to do.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on April 02, 2007, 06:49:18 PM
Did everyone else's award come with an April 11th deadline to accept?  I had been planning to visit NYU the week after that, and am headed to a different admit weekend on April 14 so there's no way I can commit by that date. Is anyone planning to ask for a deadline extension?

I got the 20,20,10 scholarship from NYU too (with the 4/11 deadline). I am still waiting to hear from HYS and would like to ask for an extension from NYU. What is a good way to ask for extension? Is it better to call or email?

btw, I just called Stanford today and was told that a decision had just been sent out... guess that is a ding.  They will call you if they accept you right?


When did you go complete at Stanford?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: turnitout on April 02, 2007, 06:50:23 PM
ugh. i am slowly starting to hate nyu.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 02, 2007, 07:11:07 PM
Got my fin aid email. 10/10/5.  I think that is fair.  I'm still unclear as to whether this is need or merit. 

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I went too.  In fact, I sat at the same table as stjobs for lunch.

Really? :-\ I don't really recall if anyone 'tried to get a conversation started.' Who were you?

Big tall guy with shaved head and goatee.  I felt like I was monopolizing the conversation with the tax professor, but maybe it was just my imagination.  I was sitting directly across from her, which would be me about three seats to your left.  Unless you have a twin with a slightly different hairdo.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: JuanTwoThree on April 02, 2007, 07:30:02 PM
This deadline is kind of playing in to my fears about a more student-hostile admin. at NYU (from the deathly quiet admissions office to IT, who won't let you use Windows _on an Intel laptop_ for exams because it has the name "Apple" on it, to financial aid trying to force hands this early.  I loved the students at the Mar. 30 ASD, but you can pick who you hang out with--I met nice people at Columbia too.  You can't pick the bureaucracy.

If anyone knows anyone who can tell me better things about the admin/general bureaucracy it'll make my decision harder, but right now I'm wondering if I want to put up with that.  If they don't extend my deadline (I have some personal circumstances, we'll see if they do any good), it's probably a withdrawal--I won't put down a deposit before I've even gotten first finaid offers from three schools I'm considering.

They're just asking for people to accept the scholarship offers then later withdrawing. A date 3 weeks earlier than any oother school is ridiculous.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 02, 2007, 07:31:51 PM
My beef with the 4/11 date is that they're having an ASD on 4/13. What the @#!*?!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 02, 2007, 07:34:30 PM
(that's a roundabout way of saying that shaved heads + goatees tend to = attractive)

I picked up on that.  Thanks.

Let's see,  I started the day sitting on the floor behind the Dean when he gave his welcome speech. (There were no seats left).

Then I went a talk on careers in legal academia.
Then I went to Property with Prof. Been.
Then I went to lunch and sat at the same table as stjobs.
Then I went on a tour with a boy named Michele.
Then I went to a talk with three federal judge alums.
Then I went home.  I was around for most of the day.  Around mid afternoon, my desire for coffee trumped my desire to sit through another talk and I left.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: stjobs on April 02, 2007, 07:36:04 PM
I was at the tax professor's table, so yeah, that was me.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 02, 2007, 07:37:55 PM
My beef with the 4/11 date is that they're having an ASD on 4/13. What the @#!*?!

titcr.  It makes no sense.  What exactly does accepting the offer mean?  Do you have to send in your deposit?  I would e-mail the dean of admissions or someone who has a vested interest in your enrollment.  But this behavior does scare me.  My UG experience was as enjoyable as it was because the administration was willing to work with you.  So far, NYU has shown 0 capacity to do that.  
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 02, 2007, 07:41:33 PM
My beef with the 4/11 date is that they're having an ASD on 4/13. What the @#!*?!

titcr.  It makes no sense.  What exactly does accepting the offer mean?  Do you have to send in your deposit?  I would e-mail the dean of admissions or someone who has a vested interest in your enrollment.  But this behavior does scare me.  My UG experience was as enjoyable as it was because the administration was willing to work with you.  So far, NYU has shown 0 capacity to do that.  

Actually, it's TITCB. B for Beef.

From what I understand, you have to send in your intent to enroll (presumably along with your deposit), but I don't believe the scholarship offer (or deposit, of course) is binding. Still, I don't have $450 dollars to just throw around.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: formerapplicant on April 02, 2007, 07:54:06 PM
From what I understand, you have to send in your intent to enroll (presumably along with your deposit), but I don't believe the scholarship offer (or deposit, of course) is binding. Still, I don't have $450 dollars to just throw around.

The wording, in its original bold:
As our resources are limited and we wish to allocate this funding to those that will attend NYU School of Law, we require that you submit your intention to enroll and acceptance deposit by 04/11/2007.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ImpactPlayer on April 02, 2007, 07:59:14 PM
Ridiculous.  They really don't give you very long to consider their offer.  Not even enough time to go to the next ASW. 
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jackietob on April 02, 2007, 08:02:57 PM
So basically we all would have been better off not completing our aid apps until mid-April!  AHH!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on April 02, 2007, 08:21:05 PM
So basically we all would have been better off not completing our aid apps until mid-April!  AHH!

It sucks even more if you think of it that way.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on April 02, 2007, 08:55:07 PM
I wonder if NYU admin ppl are reading this thread (or care if they are). This strict April 11th deposit date is pissing everyone off and really makes no sense in so many ways (no chance for appeal, 3-4 weeks before most schools' deadlines including their old deadline, and its before their last ASD). I don't expect NYU to keep its 4th spot if they keep treating their potential scholarship students this way.

yup...more venting from me, been in this mood ever since getting my NYU award.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: JuanTwoThree on April 02, 2007, 08:59:46 PM
I wonder if NYU admin ppl are reading this thread (or care if they are). This strict April 11th deposit date is pissing everyone off and really makes no sense in so many ways (no chance for appeal, 3-4 weeks before most schools' deadlines including their old deadline, and its before their last ASD). I don't expect NYU to keep its 4th spot if they keep treating their potential scholarship students this way.

yup...more venting from me, been in this mood ever since getting my NYU award.

I refuse to bind myself to anything until I've visited Chicago and Stanford and Columbia have responded. If they want me to make a fake verbal commitment then I will give them that.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Team Pam on April 02, 2007, 09:04:50 PM
I wonder if NYU admin ppl are reading this thread (or care if they are). This strict April 11th deposit date is pissing everyone off and really makes no sense in so many ways (no chance for appeal, 3-4 weeks before most schools' deadlines including their old deadline, and its before their last ASD). I don't expect NYU to keep its 4th spot if they keep treating their potential scholarship students this way.

yup...more venting from me, been in this mood ever since getting my NYU award.

Reading this thread would imply that the NYU staff actually cared about what their prospective students thought, so I doubt it.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 02, 2007, 09:49:52 PM
I asked them to extend the 4/11 deadline - they wouldn't.

How did you ask them? Phone? E-mail?

If this is the stance they'll be taking, we're doomed. Curse us for having gotten our financial aid forms in early!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 02, 2007, 09:56:20 PM
I'm gonna laugh so much if I somehow get in and get $ and have more time to decide. That will be funny.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on April 02, 2007, 11:03:43 PM
email today - 15/15/7.5.

I'm going to go in tomorrow and ask them to give me an extra couple days...im visiting chicago 12-13

hopefully it works better in person, ill let you all know
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 03, 2007, 06:16:56 AM
email today - 15/15/7.5.

I'm going to go in tomorrow and ask them to give me an extra couple days...im visiting chicago 12-13

hopefully it works better in person, ill let you all know

Good luck!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: MindTheGap76 on April 03, 2007, 08:20:32 AM
Someone on XO pointed me to this thread. Are you shitting me? A 4/11 deadline? That reeks of getting burned by Chicago cross-admits that bother to visit the school. What a bad way for the administration to kick things off with the class of 2010.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on April 03, 2007, 08:24:56 AM
Someone on XO pointed me to this thread. Are you shitting me? A 4/11 deadline? That reeks of getting burned by Chicago cross-admits that bother to visit the school. What a bad way for the administration to kick things off with the class of 2010.

i was wondering what took you so long...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: MindTheGap76 on April 03, 2007, 08:40:22 AM
Someone on XO pointed me to this thread. Are you shitting me? A 4/11 deadline? That reeks of getting burned by Chicago cross-admits that bother to visit the school. What a bad way for the administration to kick things off with the class of 2010.

i was wondering what took you so long...

Search function broken = I don't find Chicago-related discussion. I wouldn't normally have though to click on an NYU scholarship thread.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on April 03, 2007, 08:53:04 AM
Someone on XO pointed me to this thread. Are you shitting me? A 4/11 deadline? That reeks of getting burned by Chicago cross-admits that bother to visit the school. What a bad way for the administration to kick things off with the class of 2010.

i was wondering what took you so long...

Search function broken = I don't find Chicago-related discussion. I wouldn't normally have though to click on an NYU scholarship thread.

not an excuse. a T5 quality troll would be all over this thing by page 4 at latest. guess that vaunted 'rigor' is something of a myth...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: couchpotato39 on April 03, 2007, 09:03:34 AM
Did everyone else's award come with an April 11th deadline to accept?  I had been planning to visit NYU the week after that, and am headed to a different admit weekend on April 14 so there's no way I can commit by that date. Is anyone planning to ask for a deadline extension?

I got the 20,20,10 scholarship from NYU too (with the 4/11 deadline). I am still waiting to hear from HYS and would like to ask for an extension from NYU. What is a good way to ask for extension? Is it better to call or email?

btw, I just called Stanford today and was told that a decision had just been sent out... guess that is a ding.  They will call you if they accept you right?


When did you go complete at Stanford?

Late Jan or early Feb... I don't remember the exact date
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: couchpotato39 on April 03, 2007, 09:05:06 AM
I wonder if NYU admin ppl are reading this thread (or care if they are). This strict April 11th deposit date is pissing everyone off and really makes no sense in so many ways (no chance for appeal, 3-4 weeks before most schools' deadlines including their old deadline, and its before their last ASD). I don't expect NYU to keep its 4th spot if they keep treating their potential scholarship students this way.

yup...more venting from me, been in this mood ever since getting my NYU award.

I refuse to bind myself to anything until I've visited Chicago and Stanford and Columbia have responded. If they want me to make a fake verbal commitment then I will give them that.

What will happen if you withdraw after submitting the intention of enrollment and the deposit? (of course, i know you will lose 450bucks)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on April 03, 2007, 09:12:28 AM
I wonder if NYU admin ppl are reading this thread (or care if they are). This strict April 11th deposit date is pissing everyone off and really makes no sense in so many ways (no chance for appeal, 3-4 weeks before most schools' deadlines including their old deadline, and its before their last ASD). I don't expect NYU to keep its 4th spot if they keep treating their potential scholarship students this way.

yup...more venting from me, been in this mood ever since getting my NYU award.

I refuse to bind myself to anything until I've visited Chicago and Stanford and Columbia have responded. If they want me to make a fake verbal commitment then I will give them that.

What will happen if you withdraw after submitting the intention of enrollment and the deposit? (of course, i know you will lose 450bucks)

"You'll never work in this town again!"
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 03, 2007, 09:15:28 AM
This is the intention of enrollment you are asked to sign:

"I plan to enroll at NYU School of Law in Fall 2007. I have no commitment to attend another law school, have not deferred enrollment at another law school, will not apply to another law school, and have withdrawn from other law schools to which I was admitted. I have reviewed the information about the Law School's laptop requirement and I agree to abide by its terms. I understand that all students, whether in the J.D. or Graduate Division, enrolled in or registered for any course at New York University School of Law are required to have, for exams and other purposes, a Windows-based PC laptop with a wireless Internet connection (one that meets the minimum specifications). Every student is required to type his or her exams on a computer, and handwriting will not be permitted on exams."

Bolded emphasis is theirs.

I don't think you're bound to attend after agreeing to this - but you are obliged to withdraw from schools that have accepted you.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: brett83 on April 03, 2007, 09:18:39 AM
I wonder if NYU admin ppl are reading this thread (or care if they are). This strict April 11th deposit date is pissing everyone off and really makes no sense in so many ways (no chance for appeal, 3-4 weeks before most schools' deadlines including their old deadline, and its before their last ASD). I don't expect NYU to keep its 4th spot if they keep treating their potential scholarship students this way.

yup...more venting from me, been in this mood ever since getting my NYU award.

I refuse to bind myself to anything until I've visited Chicago and Stanford and Columbia have responded. If they want me to make a fake verbal commitment then I will give them that.

What will happen if you withdraw after submitting the intention of enrollment and the deposit? (of course, i know you will lose 450bucks)

Hmm good question! You know, if you read the intention of enrollment (online), it says "I plan to enroll at NYU school of law in Fall 2007. I have no commitment to attend another law school, have not deferred enrollment at another law school, will not apply to another law school, and have withdrawn from other law schools to which I was admitted...."
So, even if you were to withdraw your application after submitting the deposit b/c you were later on admitted to another law school higher on your list, you haven't really violated anything in the above agreement. So, I am assuming that in such a case, you lose your 450 bucks, and look bad to NYU, but nothing else.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 03, 2007, 09:20:59 AM
This is the intention of enrollment you are asked to sign:

"I plan to enroll at NYU School of Law in Fall 2007. I have no commitment to attend another law school, have not deferred enrollment at another law school, will not apply to another law school, and have withdrawn from other law schools to which I was admitted. I have reviewed the information about the Law School's laptop requirement and I agree to abide by its terms. I understand that all students, whether in the J.D. or Graduate Division, enrolled in or registered for any course at New York University School of Law are required to have, for exams and other purposes, a Windows-based PC laptop with a wireless Internet connection (one that meets the minimum specifications). Every student is required to type his or her exams on a computer, and handwriting will not be permitted on exams."

Bolded emphasis is theirs.

I don't think you're bound to attend after agreeing to this - but you are obliged to withdraw from schools that have accepted you.

So I'm not a lawyer yet, but I notice the bolded doesn't say "withdrawn from ALL other law schools to which I was admitted." Unfortunately, I've only withdrawn from 1 school that admitted me, so even on that technicality I lose.

Does this mean that I can't send this in unless I withdraw from UVA while awaiting money offers from them?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: brett83 on April 03, 2007, 09:21:34 AM
This is the intention of enrollment you are asked to sign:

"I plan to enroll at NYU School of Law in Fall 2007. I have no commitment to attend another law school, have not deferred enrollment at another law school, will not apply to another law school, and have withdrawn from other law schools to which I was admitted. I have reviewed the information about the Law School's laptop requirement and I agree to abide by its terms. I understand that all students, whether in the J.D. or Graduate Division, enrolled in or registered for any course at New York University School of Law are required to have, for exams and other purposes, a Windows-based PC laptop with a wireless Internet connection (one that meets the minimum specifications). Every student is required to type his or her exams on a computer, and handwriting will not be permitted on exams."

Bolded emphasis is theirs.

I don't think you're bound to attend after agreeing to this - but you are obliged to withdraw from schools that have accepted you.

haha hey, we were writing our posts at the same time i think =)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on April 03, 2007, 09:24:09 AM
this is unbelievable.  on the one hand, im amazed at my luck that sending my finaid app in ONE DAY after the 3/30 deadline for 4/5 notification (by accident, too, i didn't know about the timetable until after i submitted) is probably going to get me out of such an awful decision.  on the other hand, i'm having trouble seriously considering attending a school like this.   i mean, if they're this shady when they're TRYING to get you to attend, what are they going to do once you've signed up?

but i still really wanna go there...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 03, 2007, 09:27:57 AM
This is the intention of enrollment you are asked to sign:

"I plan to enroll at NYU School of Law in Fall 2007. I have no commitment to attend another law school, have not deferred enrollment at another law school, will not apply to another law school, and have withdrawn from other law schools to which I was admitted. I have reviewed the information about the Law School's laptop requirement and I agree to abide by its terms. I understand that all students, whether in the J.D. or Graduate Division, enrolled in or registered for any course at New York University School of Law are required to have, for exams and other purposes, a Windows-based PC laptop with a wireless Internet connection (one that meets the minimum specifications). Every student is required to type his or her exams on a computer, and handwriting will not be permitted on exams."

Bolded emphasis is theirs.

I don't think you're bound to attend after agreeing to this - but you are obliged to withdraw from schools that have accepted you.

So I'm not a lawyer yet, but I notice the bolded doesn't say "withdrawn from ALL other law schools to which I was admitted." Unfortunately, I've only withdrawn from 1 school that admitted me, so even on that technicality I lose.

Does this mean that I can't send this in unless I withdraw from UVA while awaiting money offers from them?

Aha!!! I can just withdraw from Georgetown!!! I beat the system!

If I was accepted to both Fordham and Georgetown and withdrew, THEN I followed their instruction: that I withdrew from other schools I was admitted to. Done.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Team Pam on April 03, 2007, 09:28:58 AM
The fiance and I had a big discussion about this last night, because he couldn't believe that you could submit deposits to multiple law schools.  In looking over my various enrollment forms, only NYU's requires that you withdraw from other schools.

I know I've said this before, but NYU was one of my top choices going into this process, but their administrative policies have changed my mind 100%.  It's really disappointing and surprising.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 03, 2007, 09:42:58 AM
Someone asked how they rejected my deadline extension request - I called and spoke to someone in the admissions office - assistant dean of admissions or something like that maybe.

I don't really think that signing that statement binds you to go to NYU - I mean if it did, why would they need a deposit.  I doubt NYU would pursue it if you gave the deposit and went to another school - they would probably just be happy to have the extra 450 bux.  I've heard of people submitting deposits to schools and signing such statements,then going elsewhere, and nothing ever happened to them.

I suppose there's a bit of a loophole in that statement too - they don't say anything about schoools you haven't heard from yet, or have been deferred or waitlisted.

Either way, I think I'm going to submit my deposit soon.

And I agree with everyone else who is noting the ridiculousness of this - it seems like basically we're being punished for submitting our financial aid info early.  It's not enough to make me not go to NYU, but if someone was on the fence, I could see this really affecting their decision.

You're missing the bigger loophole I pointed out; nowhere does it say withdrawing from ALL schools to which you've been admitted. If you withdraw from 2 such schools, you're golden, it seems.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: 'tiki on April 03, 2007, 09:43:14 AM
The fiance and I had a big discussion about this last night, because he couldn't believe that you could submit deposits to multiple law schools.  In looking over my various enrollment forms, only NYU's requires that you withdraw from other schools.

I know I've said this before, but NYU was one of my top choices going into this process, but their administrative policies have changed my mind 100%.  It's really disappointing and surprising.

Not to play devil's advocate but NYU is just trying to assure their class while controlling what they spend on aid, its good administration. Besides lots of schools have early or mid April deadlines for deposits. But yeah its sort of disheartening how unflexible they are.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 03, 2007, 09:51:55 AM
In defense of NYU, they're not the first school to require an early date for scholarships.

Cornell required a Apr 2 notification for their scholarship (which also required withdrawal from other schools), GW requires an Apr 16 notification (which is the same as their normal deposit deadline, I think, but still early). I don't know if it requires a deposit, but I know GULC had a Apr 2 deadline as well to accept their Dean's scholarship.

I think one reason for the early deadline is so that schools can better distribute scholarships that weren't accepted by other applicants. Georgetown, for example, says they'll let their alternates know by Apr 9 if there is money left for them. NYU's next round of scholarship offers will likely be impacted by the percentage that accept the current oustanding offers. If Georgetown or NYU had May 1 deadlines for accepting scholarships, they'd have less flexibility in distributing any left over money.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 03, 2007, 09:53:13 AM
Hmm, is no one responding to my comment? Is it just something so simple that everyone already knew that, and I'm just an idiot?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on April 03, 2007, 09:55:19 AM
Hmm, is no one responding to my comment? Is it just something so simple that everyone already knew that, and I'm just an idiot?

I'll respond. that sounds EXACTLY like something I would say.  Except it doesn't matter because I'm not up against that deadline.  Nice work.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on April 03, 2007, 09:59:05 AM
Hmm, is no one responding to my comment? Is it just something so simple that everyone already knew that, and I'm just an idiot?

I think its a pretty interesting reading of the statement.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 03, 2007, 09:59:49 AM
Hmm, is no one responding to my comment? Is it just something so simple that everyone already knew that, and I'm just an idiot?

I'll respond. that sounds EXACTLY like something I would say.  Except it doesn't matter because I'm not up against that deadline.  Nice work.

I think I may do just that.

"Well, I'm sorry, but the language is clearly ambiguous. And I would certainly think that where many thousands of dollars were concerned, you would take pains to make explicit that you wanted withdrawals from all schools I was admitted to if that were actually the case. Good day, NYU."
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 03, 2007, 10:07:41 AM
Hmm, is no one responding to my comment? Is it just something so simple that everyone already knew that, and I'm just an idiot?

I think its a pretty interesting reading of the statement.

Do you think it holds up? It's an interesting and potentially beneficial reading, so I'm inclined to want to go with it.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 03, 2007, 10:10:14 AM
Hmm, is no one responding to my comment? Is it just something so simple that everyone already knew that, and I'm just an idiot?

I think its a pretty interesting reading of the statement.

Do you think it holds up? It's an interesting and potentially beneficial reading, so I'm inclined to want to go with it.

Like I said, I'm no lawyer, and I imagine there are such things as "intended readings" that would have to be argued. However, as a linguistics major, I see nothing that would indicate that there is only 1 reading of that sentence, nor that it is the most natural reading.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on April 03, 2007, 10:12:55 AM
Hmm, is no one responding to my comment? Is it just something so simple that everyone already knew that, and I'm just an idiot?

I think its a pretty interesting reading of the statement.

Do you think it holds up? It's an interesting and potentially beneficial reading, so I'm inclined to want to go with it.

Do I think that if you were in court arguing this, it would hold up? No, of course not. It can be pretty easily inferred from the context and the fact that they bolded it what they intended.

Do I think that they will care? No, I think that if you withdraw and go somewhere else, they'll just keep your $450 and move on to the next candidate.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 03, 2007, 10:15:02 AM
Hmm, is no one responding to my comment? Is it just something so simple that everyone already knew that, and I'm just an idiot?

I disagree with your interpretation. Given that most applicants apply to several safety schools, NYU requiring you to withdraw from two schools doesn't seem to be a useful requirement.

Best thing to do, if you're serious about this, is to ask NYU for a clarification of their expectations.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 03, 2007, 10:21:32 AM
Hmm, is no one responding to my comment? Is it just something so simple that everyone already knew that, and I'm just an idiot?

I disagree with your interpretation. Given that most applicants apply to several safety schools, NYU requiring you to withdraw from two schools doesn't seem to be a useful requirement.

Best thing to do, if you're serious about this, is to ask NYU for a clarification of their expectations.

Probably true. However, I can't help but shake the feeling that perhaps it is intentionally vague; i.e. it is meant to sound as though you have no choice but to withdraw from all schools when in fact it might not be true.

You know, the equivalent of an optical illusion with the faces and the vase. If I tell you "look at this picture of a vase," you're much more likely to see the vase.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 03, 2007, 10:53:47 AM
Johnny,

1) I hope you got to NYU.  You look thoughtful, and I like the idea of figuring out who is who from LSD when I get to school.

2) That said, if you don't withdraw from UVA, presumably because you really want to go there, and NYU finds out, the worst that they can do is withdraw their offer of admission, in which case you just go to UVA.  It seems more likely that Randy Cohen will chastise you, but that NYU won't do anything about it.  I'm just guessing though.

3) I'm inclined to be upset along with everyone else about the scholarship situation, but on the other hand, I guess I am just really grateful that I got something.  I still don't know if it is because they think I'm great or if it's because they think I'm broke, but I think that both are true and am glad that NYU noticed.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: 'tiki on April 03, 2007, 11:14:28 AM
Ok so leaving the Fin Aid deadline and back to the original topic, who here is going to be at NYU the 14th for interviews?

Also, for ASW do they provide hosts or does one need to get a hotel room?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 03, 2007, 11:26:59 AM
Ok so leaving the Fin Aid deadline and back to the original topic, who here is going to be at NYU the 14th for interviews?

Also, for ASW do they provide hosts or does one need to get a hotel room?

What are you interviewing for on the 14th?  Just curious.

The ASW is actually an ASD, and no, they just tell you to get a room.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: pikey on April 03, 2007, 11:38:23 AM
Ok so leaving the Fin Aid deadline and back to the original topic, who here is going to be at NYU the 14th for interviews?

Also, for ASW do they provide hosts or does one need to get a hotel room?

What are you interviewing for on the 14th?  Just curious.

The ASW is actually an ASD, and no, they just tell you to get a room.

I'll be there on the 14th!  And I think it's ridiculous that they don't even offer student hosts.  I think I'm staying with family friends.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 03, 2007, 11:45:27 AM
NYU on-campus apartments didn't look big enough to accommodate guests :(
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 03, 2007, 11:46:24 AM
Does anyone know if they match from, say, Mich? Or at least try to compete?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 03, 2007, 11:46:55 AM
NYU on-campus apartments didn't look big enough to accommodate guests :(

Yikes. How big were they? Did you get pics?

(BTW, Mich pics will be up later. I've been busy + sick.)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 03, 2007, 12:03:54 PM
Does anyone know if they match from, say, Mich? Or at least try to compete?

Didn't someone say they wouldn't be considering finaid appeals until May? That means they would only consider your request after you've sent in your deposit and committed to enroll. I don't know how that's going to work, honestly.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 03, 2007, 12:05:43 PM
NYU on-campus apartments didn't look big enough to accommodate guests :(

Yikes. How big were they? Did you get pics?

(BTW, Mich pics will be up later. I've been busy + sick.)

This, I think, is the one I looked at while I was there (two bedroom apartment): http://www.law.nyu.edu/depts/housing/pictures/dagostino/type_o.html

The prices for that are between $1363 and $1431 per person depending on the section of the building and are just about the cheapest available, other than the three bedroom apartments. Says the bedroom is 10 x 11 - I don't know how big my current bedroom is, but it's slightly larger than what I saw, and mine is pretty small; I could just barely fit someone in a sleeping bag on my floor.

 

Mercer Street apartments are larger but more expensive. I didn't get to take a look at them, although the floor plans are available on the NYU website.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jimfoolery on April 03, 2007, 12:14:05 PM
NYU on-campus apartments didn't look big enough to accommodate guests :(

Yikes. How big were they? Did you get pics?

(BTW, Mich pics will be up later. I've been busy + sick.)

This, I think, is the one I looked at while I was there (two bedroom apartment): http://www.law.nyu.edu/depts/housing/pictures/dagostino/type_o.html

The prices for that are between $1363 and $1431 per person depending on the section of the building and are just about the cheapest available, other than the three bedroom apartments. Says the bedroom is 10 x 11 - I don't know how big my current bedroom is, but it's slightly larger than what I saw, and mine is pretty small; I could just barely fit someone in a sleeping bag on my floor.

 

Mercer Street apartments are larger but more expensive. I didn't get to take a look at them, although the floor plans are available on the NYU website.

(http://www.law.nyu.edu/depts/housing/pictures/dagostino/kitchen2.gif)
This picture of the kitchen is the scariest.  I can only imagine how cramped that sucka must be IRL if this is the best photo they could stage.   
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 03, 2007, 12:19:02 PM
For those of you have called: did you call admissions or finaid? Admissions just told me to email them, so I'm thinking of calling finaid.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 03, 2007, 12:22:00 PM
For those of you have called: did you call admissions or finaid? Admissions just told me to email them, so I'm thinking of calling finaid.

hmm... I would think e-mail would be the "weapon" of choice for this 1) because it gives you time to carefully construct your positions, and 2) because you have their response in writing, just in case.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 03, 2007, 12:23:40 PM
For those of you have called: did you call admissions or finaid? Admissions just told me to email them, so I'm thinking of calling finaid.

hmm... I would think e-mail would be the "weapon" of choice for this 1) because it gives you time to carefully construct your positions, and 2) because you have their response in writing, just in case.

True, and I always prefer email... problem is, if I can't get an extension, I've got to head up Sunday night and visit Monday... don't really have a whole lot of time to find a plane, train, or bus. Plus I'd need to let my friend at NYU Med know ASAP.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 03, 2007, 12:25:14 PM
hmm... I would think e-mail would be the "weapon" of choice for this 1) because it gives you time to carefully construct your positions, and 2) because you have their response in writing, just in case.

Yeah, I think it's easier to make an e-mail or letter sound professional than a phone conversation, especially if you're trying to "complain" about something.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 03, 2007, 12:36:18 PM
For those of you have called: did you call admissions or finaid? Admissions just told me to email them, so I'm thinking of calling finaid.

I think Fin Aid - it's that office that sent out the award letters, and the tone of their letter is more customer-service friendly, for lack of a better term, than anything I've ever gotten from admissions.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: 'tiki on April 03, 2007, 01:41:21 PM

Ok so leaving the Fin Aid deadline and back to the original topic, who here is going to be at NYU the 14th for interviews?

Also, for ASW do they provide hosts or does one need to get a hotel room?

What are you interviewing for on the 14th?  Just curious.

The ASW is actually an ASD, and no, they just tell you to get a room.

I'll be there on the 14th!  And I think it's ridiculous that they don't even offer student hosts.  I think I'm staying with family friends.

Sweet. So we'll hang out after Saturday's lunch. I am thinking broadway musical.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 03, 2007, 01:54:19 PM
NYU on-campus apartments didn't look big enough to accommodate guests :(

Yikes. How big were they? Did you get pics?

(BTW, Mich pics will be up later. I've been busy + sick.)

This, I think, is the one I looked at while I was there (two bedroom apartment): http://www.law.nyu.edu/depts/housing/pictures/dagostino/type_o.html

The prices for that are between $1363 and $1431 per person depending on the section of the building and are just about the cheapest available, other than the three bedroom apartments. Says the bedroom is 10 x 11 - I don't know how big my current bedroom is, but it's slightly larger than what I saw, and mine is pretty small; I could just barely fit someone in a sleeping bag on my floor.

 

Mercer Street apartments are larger but more expensive. I didn't get to take a look at them, although the floor plans are available on the NYU website.

(http://www.law.nyu.edu/depts/housing/pictures/dagostino/kitchen2.gif)
This picture of the kitchen is the scariest.  I can only imagine how cramped that sucka must be IRL if this is the best photo they could stage.   

Wait, wait... $1400 PER PERSON for a 2 BR? O... M... G.

I thought the same thing about that picture. I wonder what the photo shoot was like:

"OK, Jim, now what we're gonna do is... now stay with me... we're gonna saw you in two, throw some stuff in the middle away, and put you back together so you look smaller. Next, we're gonna go buy the smallest possible desk we can find. Now, since the appliances are so small, no one will notice!"

I think that kitchen is 2' x 0.3'
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 03, 2007, 01:57:01 PM
Seriously, Brooklyn is like 15 minutes away by train.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 03, 2007, 01:58:35 PM
I think that kitchen is 2" x 0.3"

Fixed.

(also: my impression is that Brooklyn is closer to a 30 minute commute)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jimfoolery on April 03, 2007, 02:28:24 PM
NYU on-campus apartments didn't look big enough to accommodate guests :(

Yikes. How big were they? Did you get pics?

(BTW, Mich pics will be up later. I've been busy + sick.)

This, I think, is the one I looked at while I was there (two bedroom apartment): http://www.law.nyu.edu/depts/housing/pictures/dagostino/type_o.html

The prices for that are between $1363 and $1431 per person depending on the section of the building and are just about the cheapest available, other than the three bedroom apartments. Says the bedroom is 10 x 11 - I don't know how big my current bedroom is, but it's slightly larger than what I saw, and mine is pretty small; I could just barely fit someone in a sleeping bag on my floor.

 

Mercer Street apartments are larger but more expensive. I didn't get to take a look at them, although the floor plans are available on the NYU website.

(http://www.law.nyu.edu/depts/housing/pictures/dagostino/kitchen2.gif)
This picture of the kitchen is the scariest.  I can only imagine how cramped that sucka must be IRL if this is the best photo they could stage.   

Wait, wait... $1400 PER PERSON for a 2 BR? O... M... G.

I thought the same thing about that picture. I wonder what the photo shoot was like:

"OK, Jim, now what we're gonna do is... now stay with me... we're gonna saw you in two, throw some stuff in the middle away, and put you back together so you look smaller. Next, we're gonna go buy the smallest possible desk we can find. Now, since the appliances are so small, no one will notice!"

I think that kitchen is 2' x 0.3'

If somebody were to try to use the sink, that person's ass would be all up in that guy's face; that's no way to live.  I do find it intriguing, however, that this gentleman appears to be sitting down for a meal of brownies and two bottles of wine.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: bonkers1234 on April 03, 2007, 02:40:52 PM
he needs to drown his sorrows.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on April 03, 2007, 02:51:04 PM
I can't even imagine living in the dorms if I stay here, because its just not worth it. You CAN stay in manhattan and within 15 min walking distance of the school in much bigger and nicer places. Just do it.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 03, 2007, 02:52:25 PM
I think that kitchen is 2" x 0.3"

Fixed.

(also: my impression is that Brooklyn is closer to a 30 minute commute)

 :D Depends where in Brooklyn, I guess. Where are the current Brooklynites when you need them?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on April 03, 2007, 02:56:53 PM
I think that kitchen is 2" x 0.3"

Fixed.

(also: my impression is that Brooklyn is closer to a 30 minute commute)

 :D Depends where in Brooklyn, I guess. Where are the current Brooklynites when you need them?

Sitting on the train. ;D
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 03, 2007, 03:04:40 PM
I think that kitchen is 2" x 0.3"

Fixed.

(also: my impression is that Brooklyn is closer to a 30 minute commute)

 :D Depends where in Brooklyn, I guess. Where are the current Brooklynites when you need them?

I used to live in Brooklyn.  It's a big place.  Some parts are about 15 minutes away (like the Jay Street stop maybe?), others are closer to an hour (coney island, east new york). 

I saw the D'Ag apartments at the ASD on Friday.  They were awful.  There is a reason why more New Yorkers live in Brooklyn than in any other borough.  You are likely to find an apartment that costs about the same as the NYU dorms, but have yards, kitchens, living rooms, and other sorts of things that civilized people are used to.  Manhattan, I think, is only really reasonable if you live above Columbus Circle, and even then, you might not find much that is affordable before getting to 100th st.

Also, I've said this before and I'm sure someone is gonna contradict me immediately, but the village is not that cool of a neighborhood.  It's nice, sure.  It's fun, sometimes.  But it is not representative of New York City really.  It is the neighborhood where people go to be tourists (or to attend NYU).  There is plenty of cool stuff to do, but I'm just saying, there is so much to do that will compel you to leave the village, that living there really isn't that much of a draw.

A 2 second walk to school is nice, I guess. But its a high price to pay when the subway is comparatively cheap, fast, and runs 24/7.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 03, 2007, 03:10:33 PM
I think that kitchen is 2" x 0.3"

Fixed.

(also: my impression is that Brooklyn is closer to a 30 minute commute)

 :D Depends where in Brooklyn, I guess. Where are the current Brooklynites when you need them?

I used to live in Brooklyn.  It's a big place.  Some parts are about 15 minutes away (like the Jay Street stop maybe?), others are closer to an hour (coney island, east new york). 

I saw the D'Ag apartments at the ASD on Friday.  They were awful.  There is a reason why more New Yorkers live in Brooklyn than in any other borough.  You are likely to find an apartment that costs about the same as the NYU dorms, but have yards, kitchens, living rooms, and other sorts of things that civilized people are used to.  Manhattan, I think, is only really reasonable if you live above Columbus Circle, and even then, you might not find much that is affordable before getting to 100th st.

Also, I've said this before and I'm sure someone is gonna contradict me immediately, but the village is not that cool of a neighborhood.  It's nice, sure.  It's fun, sometimes.  But it is not representative of New York City really.  It is the neighborhood where people go to be tourists (or to attend NYU).  There is plenty of cool stuff to do, but I'm just saying, there is so much to do that will compel you to leave the village, that living there really isn't that much of a draw.

A 2 second walk to school is nice, I guess. But its a high price to pay when the subway is comparatively cheap, fast, and runs 24/7.

My only gripe with the DC Metro. The Metro is so much better than the NY subway system (cleaner, easier, smoother ride), but it doesn't run 24/7! Aarg!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Schruted on April 03, 2007, 03:21:23 PM
Guys, I saw Mercer and Dag apartments on the March 30 ASD. They seriously were not as bad as they look in those pictures. For how much money NYU has, they do a terrible job making their school look good on the website.

The Mercer apartments were actually huge compared to what you'll find elsewhere in downtown Manhattan. There is no living room, and the kitchen is far from ideal, but the rooms are as big as doubles or triples at most colleges. The bathrooms are adequate. I actually stayed with a student in Mercer, and I was happy with the experience.

Dag was a different story. Do not live there if you value roominess more than convenience. I'll probably end up living in Dag at least for 1L, because I want to be close to classes and other 1Ls. The rooms are like singles at most colleges. The kitchens/shared space are like Mercer's: they're cramped, but it's not like in that picture, where you'd have to be ass-to-ass with your roommates. It's a little bit better than that.

Current students can give you more valuable advice than I can, but I'd say only live in Dag if you really hate walking to class (especially in the winter) or if you really want to be around most of the 1Ls (I think 2/3 live in Dag). Otherwise, there is no reason to live in Dag over Mercer. I assume money is not a concern when you're choosing between the two, because they're both obscenely expensive, and Mercer is only about $100 more per month, if I recall correctly.

For those considering living in Brooklyn, I personally would not consider it during 1L. You'll actually have to go to classes 1L, and I imagine riding the subway during rush hour every day can be depressing, along with the extra time it takes. For 2L and 3L, if you're planning on working in NYC, you might as well get a place you'll stay at for a few years.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 03, 2007, 03:29:03 PM
My only gripe with the DC Metro. The Metro is so much better than the NY subway system (cleaner, easier, smoother ride), but it doesn't run 24/7! Aarg!

The DC Metro is like traveling in the future.  Although, apparently, in the future, you get a ticket for drinking coffee while traveling.  Definitely cleaner though.  This summer I saw a 5 year old girl pee on the A train in NYC and her mom tried to pretend like she spilled water.  No one was fooled.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 03, 2007, 03:36:10 PM
My only gripe with the DC Metro. The Metro is so much better than the NY subway system (cleaner, easier, smoother ride), but it doesn't run 24/7! Aarg!

The DC Metro is like traveling in the future.  Although, apparently, in the future, you get a ticket for drinking coffee while traveling.  Definitely cleaner though.  This summer I saw a 5 year old girl pee on the A train in NYC and her mom tried to pretend like she spilled water.  No one was fooled.

Really? I don't think I tried to drink anything while I was on, so I didn't notice.

A combo of the best stuff about DC and NTC would be my dream. The cleanliness, helpfulness of people (they pay people to stand around and answer your questions), and coolness and proximity of the museums in DC, and the overall coolness, amount of amazing restaurants, and "open-lateness" of NYC. Of course, some of these things are kind of mutually exclusive (cleanliness + 24/7 is kinda hard to do), but still, I can dream, can't I?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 03, 2007, 03:39:19 PM
Guys, I saw Mercer and Dag apartments on the March 30 ASD. They seriously were not as bad as they look in those pictures. For how much money NYU has, they do a terrible job making their school look good on the website.

The Mercer apartments were actually huge compared to what you'll find elsewhere in downtown Manhattan. There is no living room, and the kitchen is far from ideal, but the rooms are as big as doubles or triples at most colleges. The bathrooms are adequate. I actually stayed with a student in Mercer, and I was happy with the experience.

Dag was a different story. Do not live there if you value roominess more than convenience. I'll probably end up living in Dag at least for 1L, because I want to be close to classes and other 1Ls. The rooms are like singles at most colleges. The kitchens/shared space are like Mercer's: they're cramped, but it's not like in that picture, where you'd have to be ass-to-ass with your roommates. It's a little bit better than that.

Current students can give you more valuable advice than I can, but I'd say only live in Dag if you really hate walking to class (especially in the winter) or if you really want to be around most of the 1Ls (I think 2/3 live in Dag). Otherwise, there is no reason to live in Dag over Mercer. I assume money is not a concern when you're choosing between the two, because they're both obscenely expensive, and Mercer is only about $100 more per month, if I recall correctly.

For those considering living in Brooklyn, I personally would not consider it during 1L. You'll actually have to go to classes 1L, and I imagine riding the subway during rush hour every day can be depressing, along with the extra time it takes. For 2L and 3L, if you're planning on working in NYC, you might as well get a place you'll stay at for a few years.

You sound like (a) you've lived in college dorms for a long time, and (b) they didn't bother you too much. Your analysis just doesn't work for me.

For those of us who have lived in spacious places for a while, those apartments flat out suck, no ifs, ands, or buts. If it's not >=800 sq ft (and even that is a bit small), then it sucks. Sucks sucks sucks. But I've also made a choice to accept this and suck it up if I have to.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 03, 2007, 03:44:21 PM
Guys, I saw Mercer and Dag apartments on the March 30 ASD. They seriously were not as bad as they look in those pictures. For how much money NYU has, they do a terrible job making their school look good on the website.

seriously.  

Quote
The Mercer apartments were actually huge compared to what you'll find elsewhere in downtown Manhattan. There is no living room, and the kitchen is far from ideal, but the rooms are as big as doubles or triples at most colleges. The bathrooms are adequate. I actually stayed with a student in Mercer, and I was happy with the experience.

True.  And I don't really understand why people think  Mercer is so far from the law school. It's not as close as D'Ag, but it's within VERY reasonable walking distance to the law school (according to hopstop -- a 4-minute walk to Furman Hall, a 3-minute walk to the library, and a 2-minute walk to Coles Gym).  If I had to estimate, I'd put Mercer at about a 5-7 minute walk from Furman, including waiting for lights to turn etc.

EDIT: EE, I have lived in large spaces for the past few years.  Even in the village, i live in a 600-sqft 1 bedroom.  800 sqft is nearly impossible in Manhattan unless you want to pay 3-4K (possibly more).  I also have a friend sharing a studio in Mercer, with his GF.  it's as big as my 1br (not saying all the studios will be like that).  But this one was very livable even by my standards.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: EEtoJD on April 03, 2007, 03:49:47 PM
Guys, I saw Mercer and Dag apartments on the March 30 ASD. They seriously were not as bad as they look in those pictures. For how much money NYU has, they do a terrible job making their school look good on the website.

seriously. 

Quote
The Mercer apartments were actually huge compared to what you'll find elsewhere in downtown Manhattan. There is no living room, and the kitchen is far from ideal, but the rooms are as big as doubles or triples at most colleges. The bathrooms are adequate. I actually stayed with a student in Mercer, and I was happy with the experience.

True.  And I don't really understand why people think  Mercer is so far from the law school. It's not as close as D'Ag, but it's within VERY reasonable walking distance to the law school (according to hopstop -- a 4-minute walk to Furman Hall, a 3-minute walk to the library, and a 2-minute walk to Coles Gym).  If I had to estimate, I'd put Mercer at about a 5-7 minute walk from Furman, including waiting for lights to turn etc.

EDIT: EE, I have lived in large spaces for the past few years.  Even in the village, i live in a 600-sqft 1 bedroom.  800 sqft is nearly impossible in Manhattan unless you want to pay 3-4K (possibly more).  I also have a friend sharing a studio in Mercer, with his GF.  it's as big as my 1br (not saying all the studios will be like that).  But this one was very livable even by my standards.

The bolded is why I will never live in Manhattan long term. Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, DUMBO, whatever, just not Manhattan. I need space! What do I look, Japanese?

OK, that was wrong... but seriously, I don't know how some of them do it. I'd rather live in a jail cell than in some of the apartments in Japan. And the submarine-like accomodations at some of the hotels. WTF?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 03, 2007, 06:21:26 PM
I saw the D'Ag apartments at the ASD on Friday.  They were awful.  There is a reason why more New Yorkers live in Brooklyn than in any other borough.  You are likely to find an apartment that costs about the same as the NYU dorms, but have yards, kitchens, living rooms, and other sorts of things that civilized people are used to.  Manhattan, I think, is only really reasonable if you live above Columbus Circle, and even then, you might not find much that is affordable before getting to 100th st.

Also, I've said this before and I'm sure someone is gonna contradict me immediately, but the village is not that cool of a neighborhood.  It's nice, sure.  It's fun, sometimes.  But it is not representative of New York City really.  It is the neighborhood where people go to be tourists (or to attend NYU).  There is plenty of cool stuff to do, but I'm just saying, there is so much to do that will compel you to leave the village, that living there really isn't that much of a draw.

How would one go about getting an apartment in Brooklyn as a 0L? It'd be hard enough to find roommates when you don't really know anyone at school...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 03, 2007, 06:45:50 PM
Craigslist + admitted student boards and/or LSD sounds like a reasonable enough solution. 

Could end up becoming a recipe for disaster ;P
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 03, 2007, 07:23:56 PM
True, but people do it all the time.  Just do your best to vet the serial killers and underwear sniffers and I think you'll be OK.  Not sure where you're from, but maybe you've got friends in NYC who can provide some assistance? 

Have you been to an ASW yet? If so, you'll likely meet loads of people, many of whom will end up at NYU.  Pick a clean and normal one out of the bunch.

Yeah, I was at the 3/30 NYU ASW. Most people looked normal, but you can never tell. A lot of my friends look totally normal when you first meet them, but after a while you realize they have weird habits / tendencies and / or their apartments are f'ing pig sties. I have friends living in NYC but they've already all got roommates :(
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on April 04, 2007, 04:18:30 AM
I read somewhere (was it in this thread? maybe on the nyu website?) that it's difficult for 1Ls to get studios in on campus housing, so I guess that means if I lived there I'd be in a double or triple.  Anybody know if they roommate match or is that also my job?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Violet247 on April 04, 2007, 05:32:30 AM
So I know that no one here knows the ins and outs of the award process, but am I right to be upset at getting nothing from NYU with a 172/4.0+?  ...I returned home from the ASD -- which I LOVED -- to find that they actually expect me to take out $60K in loans a year.  Did anyone else get zero?

Nothing here with a 172/3.8. I loved NYU and would probably go there in a heartbeat if they had given me money. Columbia is honestly cheaper and such a comparable school that NYU has kind of turned me off in favor of Columbia. Bastards.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 04, 2007, 06:22:04 AM
I read somewhere (was it in this thread? maybe on the nyu website?) that it's difficult for 1Ls to get studios in on campus housing, so I guess that means if I lived there I'd be in a double or triple.  Anybody know if they roommate match or is that also my job?

My friend is a 1L.  But he may have applied for couples' housing since he now lives with his GF.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Schruted on April 04, 2007, 07:20:47 AM
So I know that no one here knows the ins and outs of the award process, but am I right to be upset at getting nothing from NYU with a 172/4.0+?  ...I returned home from the ASD -- which I LOVED -- to find that they actually expect me to take out $60K in loans a year.  Did anyone else get zero?

Nothing here with a 172/3.8. I loved NYU and would probably go there in a heartbeat if they had given me money. Columbia is honestly cheaper and such a comparable school that NYU has kind of turned me off in favor of Columbia. Bastards.

Do either of you have well-off parents who paid for your undergrad? I guess this question goes out to everyone with numbers above the median who didn't get money. I heard NYU's aid is mostly merit-based, but it seems like it can be fully need-based in certain situations.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: turnitout on April 04, 2007, 09:17:17 AM
Pickles: I read through some of your recent posts and we seem to be in a similar situation in terms of interests and career goals -- and reasons that $180,000 in loans would be a huge deal. Have you thought about contacting NYU and asking them to reconsider -- perhaps to match other offers? And to do so BEFORE deposits are due? I am feeling extremely torn about this...and beginning to wish that I hadn't visited last week and liked NYU so much...

Schruted: My parents are comfortable (middle to upper middle class perhaps?) and they did pay for college. On the other hand, I went to a fairly inexpensive state school and haven't technically been a dependent for three or four years. And I have approximately zero dollars myself (my estimated yearly contribution, as calculated by NYU, was around $1500).
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: MindTheGap76 on April 04, 2007, 01:39:45 PM
Hey guys, just got an e-mail from the Chicago director of financial aid that you will almost certainly be interested in:

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I donít know if any admitted students have mentioned this, but we learned yesterday from an admitted student that NYU is requiring their scholarship recipients to withdraw from other schools and pay a non refundable deposit by April 11 . . . . [W]e called Ken Kleinrock at NYU, and he has agreed to grant extensions to admitted students who have yet to visit other schools. They should just request an extension of the deadline, and it should be granted no problem. My understanding is that they were previously denying such requests.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 04, 2007, 01:45:41 PM
Hey guys, just got an e-mail from the Chicago director of financial aid that you will almost certainly be interested in:

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I donít know if any admitted students have mentioned this, but we learned yesterday from an admitted student that NYU is requiring their scholarship recipients to withdraw from other schools and pay a non refundable deposit by April 11 . . . . [W]e called Ken Kleinrock at NYU, and he has agreed to grant extensions to admitted students who have yet to visit other schools. They should just request an extension of the deadline, and it should be granted no problem. My understanding is that they were previously denying such requests.

Must have worked... I got an email from NYU giving me till the 18th to decide so that I can attend NYU's own ASD.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 04, 2007, 01:46:42 PM
Hey guys, just got an e-mail from the Chicago director of financial aid that you will almost certainly be interested in:

Quote
I donít know if any admitted students have mentioned this, but we learned yesterday from an admitted student that NYU is requiring their scholarship recipients to withdraw from other schools and pay a non refundable deposit by April 11 . . . . [W]e called Ken Kleinrock at NYU, and he has agreed to grant extensions to admitted students who have yet to visit other schools. They should just request an extension of the deadline, and it should be granted no problem. My understanding is that they were previously denying such requests.

That is excellent news Gap.  Now I just need to get myself a couple more acceptances.  By the way, if you're a 2L, how come they sent you that email?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: MindTheGap76 on April 04, 2007, 01:48:15 PM
Hey guys, just got an e-mail from the Chicago director of financial aid that you will almost certainly be interested in:

Quote
I donít know if any admitted students have mentioned this, but we learned yesterday from an admitted student that NYU is requiring their scholarship recipients to withdraw from other schools and pay a non refundable deposit by April 11 . . . . [W]e called Ken Kleinrock at NYU, and he has agreed to grant extensions to admitted students who have yet to visit other schools. They should just request an extension of the deadline, and it should be granted no problem. My understanding is that they were previously denying such requests.

That is excellent news Gap.  Now I just need to get myself a couple more acceptances.  By the way, if you're a 2L, how come they sent you that email?

I'm on the admissions committee (basically about 15 2Ls that help plan admitted students weekend). Machen sent the e-mail to everyone on the committee.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 04, 2007, 02:04:50 PM
I wonder the delays will affect the other students coming after you.  If the purpose was to see how much money they could reappropriate, then other people may be screwed or have to wait longer for packages

That's probably why they set that deadline.  But I don't know if that justifies short-circuiting your own ASD while refusing to extend the deadline, for students (e.g. Johnny) with requests that I'd consider reasonable.  Presumably, other schools have to deal with the same re-appropriation issue, so NYU is not unique in this situation.  Also, if they only had this stringent deadline for recipients of named scholarships (who were warned at the time they applied that they'd have to contend with this deadline if offered), that'd be different.  They seemed to be requiring this turnaround for all awards.

I'm also disappointed that it took someone from Chicago (who, granted, acted out of self interest for their own admits) for NYU to yield.  It if was feasible for them to yield in the first place, why did they not do so for the admits who brought it up. 

Ok, maybe I'm reading more into this than there is, but it seems to confirm the DMV-like reputation of NYU's administration...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: lindenksv on April 04, 2007, 02:10:22 PM
I'd like to reconfirm that impression. Altogether I was offered almost full tuition at Georgetown and gave the offer to both NYU and Columbia. Columbia gave me 15k more (total, not annual). Go figure. NYU wouldn't reconsider their package to me at all.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 04, 2007, 02:12:13 PM
It probably does mess up a couple people who applied later for their fin aid, but, isn't that the whole point of applying early?  Send in your apps early, apply for fin aid early, that's what everybody tells us, but for whatever reason, NYU punished everybody who took that advice.

Like I said before, I'm more grateful to be getting money than upset that I have to decide soon, but I think that its a bad move on NYU's part, and not particularly reasonable for someone who is not getting a full-ride or near it.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: MindTheGap76 on April 04, 2007, 03:32:54 PM
Doesn't affect me, but I thought I'd share. Occasionally, I check out the dark side (XO) for info:

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=607694&mc=5&forum_id=2#7873332

looks like NYU is backing away from its rigid policy

You're about 5 posts too late, suckah!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 04, 2007, 04:31:54 PM
Despite this news, I just got an e-mail from NYU rejecting my request for an extension, so I guess they don't like me.  Unless I find out everything I'm waiting for in the next few days, this probably means a W.

hmm, really?  See, I would guess that the fact that they gave you a half-tuition break would signal the opposite (at least that they were 'neutral'). No?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 04, 2007, 05:04:09 PM
hmm, really?  See, I would guess that the fact that they gave you a half-tuition break would signal the opposite (at least that they were 'neutral'). No?

That's what I thought, but friends don't try to force friends' hands on >$100,000 decisions, though.

A PM reminds me that I could have been more helpful with my news: my denied extension came from finaid.  Maybe admissions (or maybe going directly to Mr. Kleinrock, as cited in XO) will be handing out better answers, in light of the new policy.  You may also need to explicitly mention that you want to visit somewhere after the 11th.  Good luck.

See, they're not trying to force your hand.  They did have a legitimate reason for the deadline.  I read the e-mail to imply that they were willing to cooperate in externuating circumstances (and i don't count "I'm waiting for my Harvard deferral to turn into and admit" as one of those).  So it's unfair to just expect them to hand out extensions to everybody.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually have schools to which you've been admitted and that you intended to visit after April 11th.  Did you?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 04, 2007, 05:40:37 PM
I'm not waiting on H--I'm treating that as a reject for now and I'll deal with it then if it turns out otherwise.  I'm not one of those waitlist-until-the-bitter-end people--I'll almost certainly be withdrawing when my deposit's down.  Please don't assume.

As I explained to NYU, I'm waiting on financial aid offers, and I happen to be about two weeks farther away from those by airmail (and some schools don't notify electronically: trust me, I've been bugging them) than most people.  I liked NYU a lot, but I'm not going to choose between it and schools I also liked who haven't gotten a chance to offer aid yet.  I know that their legitimate reason given is to save the funding for students who are going to NYU, but making it harder for students to choose NYU seems like an... interesting (if ultimately circularly successful) way of doing that.

Good luck with your request.  In this case though, it's the other schools who won't give you a decision electronically, it's the other schools who haven't given you a financial aid decision yet.  But NYU does deserve some credit for their willingness to get decisions to you quickly.  I'm not sure why it falls back on them to extend their deadline when others won't even send an e-mail.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pacer on April 04, 2007, 05:42:30 PM
Hey Guys,

Any advice on negotiating aid with NYU? I was offered 50K+ at both UVA, Penn, Georgetown, but ZERO from NYU. How should I approach this?

Thanks,

P
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 04, 2007, 05:57:07 PM
I'm not waiting on H--I'm treating that as a reject for now and I'll deal with it then if it turns out otherwise.  I'm not one of those waitlist-until-the-bitter-end people--I'll almost certainly be withdrawing when my deposit's down.  Please don't assume.

As I explained to NYU, I'm waiting on financial aid offers, and I happen to be about two weeks farther away from those by airmail (and some schools don't notify electronically: trust me, I've been bugging them) than most people.  I liked NYU a lot, but I'm not going to choose between it and schools I also liked who haven't gotten a chance to offer aid yet.  I know that their legitimate reason given is to save the funding for students who are going to NYU, but making it harder for students to choose NYU seems like an... interesting (if ultimately circularly successful) way of doing that.

Good luck with your request.  In this case though, it's the other schools who won't give you a decision electronically, it's the other schools who haven't given you a financial aid decision yet.  But NYU does deserve some credit for their willingness to get decisions to you quickly.  I'm not sure why it falls back on them to extend their deadline when others won't even send an e-mail.

You seem to be particularly vociferous in arguing for the most charitable interpretation of NYU's policy when it seems that it's entirely possible they're being deliberately and unnecessarily inflexible or just plain boneheaded about the way they've handled their deadlines.  In particular why have the deadline before your own freaking ASW? Or, what, a few days before Chicago's?  I doubt you're going to get people to commit to NYU over Chicago by forcing their hand like that.  As seems clear from reading LSD, you're just going to piss people off and reinforce the prevailing opinion of your administrative team as a pain in the ass to deal with.   

first of all, I'm not part of NYU's admin... I'm an admit just like those complaining, and also, see my previous post below. I just think people should be fair in their criticism of the school (which is all too rampant on this board).

I wonder the delays will affect the other students coming after you.  If the purpose was to see how much money they could reappropriate, then other people may be screwed or have to wait longer for packages

That's probably why they set that deadline.  But I don't know if that justifies short-circuiting your own ASD while refusing to extend the deadline, for students (e.g. Johnny) with requests that I'd consider reasonable.  Presumably, other schools have to deal with the same re-appropriation issue, so NYU is not unique in this situation.  Also, if they only had this stringent deadline for recipients of named scholarships (who were warned at the time they applied that they'd have to contend with this deadline if offered), that'd be different.  They seemed to be requiring this turnaround for all awards.

I'm also disappointed that it took someone from Chicago (who, granted, acted out of self interest for their own admits) for NYU to yield.  It if was feasible for them to yield in the first place, why did they not do so for the admits who brought it up. 

Ok, maybe I'm reading more into this than there is, but it seems to confirm the DMV-like reputation of NYU's administration...

Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 04, 2007, 06:02:22 PM
But NYU does deserve some credit for their willingness to get decisions to you quickly.

We should be judging NYU's merits compared to its peer schools. So far, the only peer school that hasn't made financial aid offers is Columbia. Michigan, Penn, Chicago, Virginia etc have all sent out awards, and some have sent them out enough in advance for there to have been a few rounds of appeals. None of MPCV have an 'early' deadline for accepting a non-full tuition scholarship offer. I haven't heard of Columbia doing so either in past years (though it remains to be seen what they do this year).

Also, the fact that they gave decisions to early-applicants 'quickly' is offset by the fact that they're also trying to force hands by setting an earlier deadline. I can understand if this were a full-tuition scholarship like GULC's Dean's Scholarship, but it's not. The end result is that people who applied early are actually being penalized for their promptness.

I just don't get this situation at all. It took a phone call from Chicago's director of financial aid for them to even consider offering some relief. I can only say this doesn't reflect well on NYU at all. Not one bit.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Pink on April 04, 2007, 06:12:53 PM
But NYU does deserve some credit for their willingness to get decisions to you quickly.

We should be judging NYU's merits compared to its peer schools. So far, the only peer school that hasn't made financial aid offers is Columbia. Michigan, Penn, Chicago, Virginia etc have all sent out awards, and some have sent them out enough in advance for there to have been a few rounds of appeals. None of MPCV have an 'early' deadline for accepting a non-full tuition scholarship offer. I haven't heard of Columbia doing so either in past years (though it remains to be seen what they do this year).

Also, the fact that they gave decisions to early-applicants 'quickly' is offset by the fact that they're also trying to force hands by setting an earlier deadline. I can understand if this were a full-tuition scholarship like GULC's Dean's Scholarship, but it's not. The end result is that people who applied early are actually being penalized for their promptness.

I just don't get this situation at all. It took a phone call from Chicago's director of financial aid for them to even consider offering some relief. I can only say this doesn't reflect well on NYU at all. Not one bit.

ditto:

I wonder the delays will affect the other students coming after you.  If the purpose was to see how much money they could reappropriate, then other people may be screwed or have to wait longer for packages

That's probably why they set that deadline.  But I don't know if that justifies short-circuiting your own ASD while refusing to extend the deadline, for students (e.g. Johnny) with requests that I'd consider reasonable.  Presumably, other schools have to deal with the same re-appropriation issue, so NYU is not unique in this situation.  Also, if they only had this stringent deadline for recipients of named scholarships (who were warned at the time they applied that they'd have to contend with this deadline if offered), that'd be different.  They seemed to be requiring this turnaround for all awards.

I'm also disappointed that it took someone from Chicago (who, granted, acted out of self interest for their own admits) for NYU to yield.  It if was feasible for them to yield in the first place, why did they not do so for the admits who brought it up. 

Ok, maybe I'm reading more into this than there is, but it seems to confirm the DMV-like reputation of NYU's administration...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 04, 2007, 08:28:53 PM
Fair enough, I should have followed this thread closer I guess.  Also, I was using the rhetorical 'you' and not figuring you were on NYU's staff.  But I agree with your post completely and think you're probably not reading more into this than there is.  It would make me slightly less inclined to go to NYU, to be honest.  Especially if my other options included Columbia or Chicago.

Yeah it's fair enough, but Chicago's administration has so far been absolutely fantastic about accommodating virtually anything. Even though I'm trying to judge each school's merits in as neutral a mindset as possible, I can't help but compare Chicago's admin to that of NYU's. To be fair, NYU's students and faculty were about as warm and personable as I could have hoped for (and probably even exceeded that), but something about the admin just rubs me the wrong way.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 04, 2007, 08:34:54 PM
Sorry, let me be clearer then: What I am kind of diplomatically and unclearly trying to say is that I agree with the people who are pissed off about the whole situation and think NYU's acted like a bunch of weiners.

Oh, okay. I think the diplomacy flew right over my head. I'm tired with work and all. Wednesday's the hump :(
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: lindenksv on April 04, 2007, 09:28:40 PM
Call the admissions office or go visit. After dealing with financial aid people at 4 top 14 schools my conclusion is that all e-mail is automatically sent to the junk folder that never gets read. Or if it does get read, it'll only be ready by about mid-November. My personal experience with NYU leads me to believe that they focus on giving moeny to their named-scholars and otherwise rather stingy.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: JuanTwoThree on April 05, 2007, 05:47:52 AM
Hey Guys,

Any advice on negotiating aid with NYU? I was offered 50K+ at both UVA, Penn, Georgetown, but ZERO from NYU. How should I approach this?

Thanks,

P


Weird how this admissions thing works. I wanted to go to Penn but was waitlisted. I got a good offer from NYU.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: brett83 on April 05, 2007, 09:15:04 AM
Hey guys, just got an e-mail from the Chicago director of financial aid that you will almost certainly be interested in:

Quote
I donít know if any admitted students have mentioned this, but we learned yesterday from an admitted student that NYU is requiring their scholarship recipients to withdraw from other schools and pay a non refundable deposit by April 11 . . . . [W]e called Ken Kleinrock at NYU, and he has agreed to grant extensions to admitted students who have yet to visit other schools. They should just request an extension of the deadline, and it should be granted no problem. My understanding is that they were previously denying such requests.

That is excellent news Gap.  Now I just need to get myself a couple more acceptances.  By the way, if you're a 2L, how come they sent you that email?

I'm on the admissions committee (basically about 15 2Ls that help plan admitted students weekend). Machen sent the e-mail to everyone on the committee.


Hey, so did everyone get the extension? And what are you guys doing in terms of other schools that you haven't heard from at all yet, or from which you have been deferred? I am assuming that we should notify the schools of our deadline so that they can confirm our status by then, if possible? (although I don't know how much schools actually take into consideration deadlines given by other schools when deliberating on a decision)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on April 05, 2007, 11:45:25 AM
Hey guys, just got an e-mail from the Chicago director of financial aid that you will almost certainly be interested in:

Quote
I donít know if any admitted students have mentioned this, but we learned yesterday from an admitted student that NYU is requiring their scholarship recipients to withdraw from other schools and pay a non refundable deposit by April 11 . . . . [W]e called Ken Kleinrock at NYU, and he has agreed to grant extensions to admitted students who have yet to visit other schools. They should just request an extension of the deadline, and it should be granted no problem. My understanding is that they were previously denying such requests.

That is excellent news Gap.  Now I just need to get myself a couple more acceptances.  By the way, if you're a 2L, how come they sent you that email?

I'm on the admissions committee (basically about 15 2Ls that help plan admitted students weekend). Machen sent the e-mail to everyone on the committee.


Hey, so did everyone get the extension? And what are you guys doing in terms of other schools that you haven't heard from at all yet, or from which you have been deferred? I am assuming that we should notify the schools of our deadline so that they can confirm our status by then, if possible? (although I don't know how much schools actually take into consideration deadlines given by other schools when deliberating on a decision)

got the extension today, have until the 18th.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on April 05, 2007, 01:15:49 PM
Hey guys, just got an e-mail from the Chicago director of financial aid that you will almost certainly be interested in:

Quote
I donít know if any admitted students have mentioned this, but we learned yesterday from an admitted student that NYU is requiring their scholarship recipients to withdraw from other schools and pay a non refundable deposit by April 11 . . . . [W]e called Ken Kleinrock at NYU, and he has agreed to grant extensions to admitted students who have yet to visit other schools. They should just request an extension of the deadline, and it should be granted no problem. My understanding is that they were previously denying such requests.

That is excellent news Gap.  Now I just need to get myself a couple more acceptances.  By the way, if you're a 2L, how come they sent you that email?

I'm on the admissions committee (basically about 15 2Ls that help plan admitted students weekend). Machen sent the e-mail to everyone on the committee.


Hey, so did everyone get the extension? And what are you guys doing in terms of other schools that you haven't heard from at all yet, or from which you have been deferred? I am assuming that we should notify the schools of our deadline so that they can confirm our status by then, if possible? (although I don't know how much schools actually take into consideration deadlines given by other schools when deliberating on a decision)

got the extension today, have until the 18th.

How did you contact them? What did you say?

I don't want them to refuse my request :(
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hereshopin on April 06, 2007, 10:54:56 AM
Hey guys, just got an e-mail from the Chicago director of financial aid that you will almost certainly be interested in:

Quote
I donít know if any admitted students have mentioned this, but we learned yesterday from an admitted student that NYU is requiring their scholarship recipients to withdraw from other schools and pay a non refundable deposit by April 11 . . . . [W]e called Ken Kleinrock at NYU, and he has agreed to grant extensions to admitted students who have yet to visit other schools. They should just request an extension of the deadline, and it should be granted no problem. My understanding is that they were previously denying such requests.

That is excellent news Gap.  Now I just need to get myself a couple more acceptances.  By the way, if you're a 2L, how come they sent you that email?

I'm on the admissions committee (basically about 15 2Ls that help plan admitted students weekend). Machen sent the e-mail to everyone on the committee.


Hey, so did everyone get the extension? And what are you guys doing in terms of other schools that you haven't heard from at all yet, or from which you have been deferred? I am assuming that we should notify the schools of our deadline so that they can confirm our status by then, if possible? (although I don't know how much schools actually take into consideration deadlines given by other schools when deliberating on a decision)

got the extension today, have until the 18th.

How did you contact them? What did you say?

I don't want them to refuse my request :(

Stopped in, then sent an email saying that i had another ASW to go to. It was the latter that got me the extension.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on April 09, 2007, 06:44:19 AM
I went to NYU this past Friday since I can't make the asw.  The finaid administrator I met with told me she expected all the award emails to go out by early this week. Apparently the people who determine them met on Friday to finish up the last batch of awards.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: dashrashi on April 10, 2007, 09:55:56 AM
Bump!

Applied for finaid 3/31, got my letter today. 25k each first and second years, 12.5k third year, with 12.5 k more if I do PI my 2L summer. Very generous and more than I was expecting. Definitely looking forward to visiting on Friday. Deposit due 4/23. I hope I get my HLS finaid prelim award by then.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 10, 2007, 09:58:52 AM
Bump!

Applied for finaid 3/31, got my letter today. 25k each first and second years, 12.5k third year, with 12.5 k more if I do PI my 2L summer. Very generous and more than I was expecting. Definitely looking forward to visiting on Friday. Deposit due 4/23. I hope I get my HLS finaid prelim award by then.

Yay for Friday!!! Seriously, we LSDers need seperate LSD nametags. I am not joking.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: another_prelaw on April 10, 2007, 10:05:12 AM
No money from NYU :(   It would be crazy to turn down NYU for $15k from Fordham, right?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hmm on April 10, 2007, 10:21:47 AM
Received a scholarship offer today. Does anyone know if NYU requires me to withdraw from all other schools in order to accept the scholarship?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 10, 2007, 10:35:06 AM
Received a scholarship offer today. Does anyone know if NYU requires me to withdraw from all other schools in order to accept the scholarship?

Yes, it does.  The intent to enroll form that you have to fill out makes you promise that you have withdrawn. 

That reminds me, I need to update my sig.

I sent the deposit in today! Anybody with me?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: dashrashi on April 10, 2007, 10:52:11 AM
Bump!

Applied for finaid 3/31, got my letter today. 25k each first and second years, 12.5k third year, with 12.5 k more if I do PI my 2L summer. Very generous and more than I was expecting. Definitely looking forward to visiting on Friday. Deposit due 4/23. I hope I get my HLS finaid prelim award by then.

Yay for Friday!!! Seriously, we LSDers need seperate LSD nametags. I am not joking.

Um. At Penn I wrote "Dash" in the upper corner of my nametag.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: newtothis on April 10, 2007, 11:00:58 AM
Join the NYU Law Class of 2010 facebook group!
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: quizzle16 on April 10, 2007, 11:59:48 AM
Received a scholarship offer today. Does anyone know if NYU requires me to withdraw from all other schools in order to accept the scholarship?

Yes, it does.  The intent to enroll form that you have to fill out makes you promise that you have withdrawn. 

That reminds me, I need to update my sig.

I sent the deposit in today! Anybody with me?

I am  ;D
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: krockband on April 10, 2007, 12:19:41 PM
Bump!

Applied for finaid 3/31, got my letter today. 25k each first and second years, 12.5k third year, with 12.5 k more if I do PI my 2L summer. Very generous and more than I was expecting. Definitely looking forward to visiting on Friday. Deposit due 4/23. I hope I get my HLS finaid prelim award by then.

One of the reasons I applied for finaid early was because I was afraid I wouldn't get much money if I applied late. Now I know this wouldn't have been the case...

I wish I'd applied later. The 4/23 deadline sounds so much better than my already-once-extended 4/18 deadline. Feels like I got slapped in the face (penalized) for filing my app early.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 10, 2007, 12:34:24 PM
Received a scholarship offer today. Does anyone know if NYU requires me to withdraw from all other schools in order to accept the scholarship?

Yes, it does.  The intent to enroll form that you have to fill out makes you promise that you have withdrawn. 

That reminds me, I need to update my sig.

I sent the deposit in today! Anybody with me?

I am  ;D

Glad to hear.

I most likely will set up some sort of welcome to New York event the week that people start arriving for orientation and whatnot.  I'm sure there will lots of other stuff going on, but I think it will cool to organize all the 1Ls in an independent space. 
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 10, 2007, 01:11:07 PM
Congrats jalong (we are safety school twins!) and quizzle. It was an extremely difficult decision, but I withdrew from NYU today - hopefully an LSDer gets the money I turned down :)
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 10, 2007, 01:43:41 PM
Congrats jalong (we are safety school twins!) and quizzle. It was an extremely difficult decision, but I withdrew from NYU today - hopefully an LSDer gets the money I turned down :)

Thanks rtqw!  Good luck in Michigan.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on April 10, 2007, 01:44:38 PM
Congrats jalong (we are safety school twins!) and quizzle. It was an extremely difficult decision, but I withdrew from NYU today - hopefully an LSDer gets the money I turned down :)

Maybe I'm just bitter, but since awards are done (according to my letter) and no one's appeals will be heard until after deposits are in, I kind of doubt that'll actually happen.

edit: Isnt this mysterious - 2 hours after getting my "you're not getting any aid" email, I got a "here's how to apply for finaid" email.  Did anyone else get this?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 10, 2007, 01:47:37 PM
Congrats jalong (we are safety school twins!) and quizzle. It was an extremely difficult decision, but I withdrew from NYU today - hopefully an LSDer gets the money I turned down :)

Maybe I'm just bitter, but since awards are done (according to my letter) and no one's appeals will be heard until after deposits are in, I kind of doubt that'll actually happen.

edit: Isnt this mysterious - 2 hours after getting my "you're not getting any aid" email, I got a "here's how to apply for finaid" email.  Did anyone else get this?

Yeah, I got it. Kind of lazy; hell, my letter was dated 3/30. Seriously, you couldn't just remove a few names from the mail list?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on April 10, 2007, 01:49:51 PM
Congrats jalong (we are safety school twins!) and quizzle. It was an extremely difficult decision, but I withdrew from NYU today - hopefully an LSDer gets the money I turned down :)

Maybe I'm just bitter, but since awards are done (according to my letter) and no one's appeals will be heard until after deposits are in, I kind of doubt that'll actually happen.

edit: Isnt this mysterious - 2 hours after getting my "you're not getting any aid" email, I got a "here's how to apply for finaid" email.  Did anyone else get this?

Yeah, I got it. Kind of lazy; hell, my letter was dated 3/30. Seriously, you couldn't just remove a few names from the mail list?

Just to be safe, I called.  Computer glitch.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 10, 2007, 01:53:24 PM
Unrelated question: does anyone know what the anticipated 2007-2008 cost of attendance is? Last year it was 61,485... I'm wondering if it will be similar. I emailed finaid, but of course I've gotten no response.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: NewHere on April 10, 2007, 01:54:38 PM
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Just to be safe, I called.  Computer glitch.

Good to know, thanks.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: rtqw on April 10, 2007, 01:57:05 PM
I remember hearing an estimate of $63000 this year while at the ASW - although only a 2K increase seems fairly small.

Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: nerfco on April 10, 2007, 04:03:34 PM
Submitted my form around April 2nd. Received an offer today for 50k (20k/20k/10k). I'm pretty excited about that, and look forward to visiting NYU.

I might try to get my deadline extended, as I won't even be visiting NYU until the 20th, and so it isn't even guaranteed I'll be back home by the 23rd, much less having decided where to go.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Diecisiete on April 10, 2007, 04:13:41 PM
I got a much-needed extension today for 4/18
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: hmm on April 11, 2007, 09:11:04 PM
I received a Dean's scholarship offer from NYU. The letter says that to keep the scholarship I must complete the Intent to Enroll form and submit a deposit by the 4/23. The form reads:

I plan to enroll at NYU School of Law in Fall 2007. I have no commitment to attend another law school, have not deferred enrollment at another law school, will not apply to another law school, and have withdrawn from all other law schools to which I was admitted.

It doesn't say that I must withdraw currently pending application or withdraw from waitlists--just that I can't begin any new applications or have no committment to go elsewhere. It seems to me, then, that I should be able to keep my pending apps open. Does anyone think this understanding is mistaken?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: brett83 on April 11, 2007, 09:22:14 PM
I received a Dean's scholarship offer from NYU. The letter says that to keep the scholarship I must complete the Intent to Enroll form and submit a deposit by the 4/23. The form reads:

I plan to enroll at NYU School of Law in Fall 2007. I have no commitment to attend another law school, have not deferred enrollment at another law school, will not apply to another law school, and have withdrawn from all other law schools to which I was admitted.

It doesn't say that I must withdraw currently pending application or withdraw from waitlists--just that I can't begin any new applications or have no committment to go elsewhere. It seems to me, then, that I should be able to keep my pending apps open. Does anyone think this understanding is mistaken?

I think that is exactly what the letter means. I suppose that unless u are an early decision applicant, they shouldn't force you to withdraw apps from pending schools through an intent to enroll form. If you were to get into another school and forego the scholarship, that would enable them to give that money to some other applicant who needs it and will attend, so it shouldn't cause them that big of a problem i would think.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: stjobs on April 12, 2007, 08:26:46 AM
WD from other admitted places - you can leave WLs and pendings alone.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Patch102 on April 12, 2007, 09:18:57 AM
Does anyone know what happens if you don't withdraw from other places where you have been admitted? I really do plan to go to NYU but my husband hasn't found a job there yet and I hate to leave it as my only option and hope he finds something. I have emailed them but I think I am getting a standard "congratulations! you get a week extension" response, which only helps a little.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: brett83 on April 12, 2007, 04:57:27 PM
Does anyone know what happens if you don't withdraw from other places where you have been admitted? I really do plan to go to NYU but my husband hasn't found a job there yet and I hate to leave it as my only option and hope he finds something. I have emailed them but I think I am getting a standard "congratulations! you get a week extension" response, which only helps a little.
hmmm...come to think of it, even if you didn't WD from some schools you were admitted to, would they have a way of finding out? and would they bother to even find out?
oh, and there was that one post saying that strictly speaking, the language on the intent to enroll form doesn't oblige you to WD from ALL schools you were accepted to...
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 13, 2007, 07:33:28 AM
Does anyone know what happens if you don't withdraw from other places where you have been admitted? I really do plan to go to NYU but my husband hasn't found a job there yet and I hate to leave it as my only option and hope he finds something. I have emailed them but I think I am getting a standard "congratulations! you get a week extension" response, which only helps a little.
hmmm...come to think of it, even if you didn't WD from some schools you were admitted to, would they have a way of finding out? and would they bother to even find out?
oh, and there was that one post saying that strictly speaking, the language on the intent to enroll form doesn't oblige you to WD from ALL schools you were accepted to...

I think what Johnny was talking about wasn't on the actual intent to enroll form.  It seems like the intent to enroll form asks you to withdraw from all.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: Patch102 on April 18, 2007, 08:37:32 AM
Does anyone know the exact requirements to keep the scholarship for all three years?
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: jalong on April 18, 2007, 10:34:56 AM
Does anyone know the exact requirements to keep the scholarship for all three years?

Not sure, but I got the impression from the alum that I talked to that you have to really stand out (in a good way or a bad way) to get anything other than a B.
Title: Re: NYU Scholarships?
Post by: . . . . . . on November 05, 2007, 09:11:34 PM
bump????