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Title: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 08:24:20 AM
Tampa bay Area - Not recommended

I used to.  the weather is nice, housing was cheap, and nudie bars galore.  these days, housing has skyrocketed, wages have not.  weather is still ok, but the hurricanes have picked up.  and the biggest negative is the insurance.  it keeps going up, and theres no end in sight.  and you cant budget for it.

so, unless your buying a home flat out for cash, i do NOT recommend the Bay Area..
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: bubDread on November 17, 2006, 08:29:20 AM
Iowa in general--

Good place to raise a family, low cost of living, pretty good education all around.

But, lots of dumb people and not a lot to do.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Geo_Storm on November 17, 2006, 08:38:41 AM
Montreal - Recommended,

Highest student/popoluation ratio in North America, arguably greatest nightlife in North America. Great summer festivals: Jazz Fest, Comedy Fest. Lots of culture, bilingual city. Great places to eat and for cheap. Professional Sports: Hockey, a Busch Race, a F1 Race, Champ Car race.

Bad: cold weather, french is inconvenient if you can't speak it. Awful traffic and terrible roads. NO baseball team.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: . . . on November 17, 2006, 08:41:58 AM
Chicago - Recommended

Plenty to do, great music scene, public transportation very easy, not outrageously expensive compared to other cities of similar size, Lake Michigan...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 08:43:49 AM
Chicago - Recommended

Plenty to do, great music scene, public transportation very easy, not outrageously expensive compared to other cities of similar size, Lake Michigan...

dont forget the negatives....
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: pikey on November 17, 2006, 08:45:00 AM
Bermuda - highly recommended

Good:
QOL can't be beat.  Beautiful beaches, great weather, nice people.  High COL, but also high wages.  No income or sales tax.  Companies are required to provide health insurance and pension to their employees.  Lots of travel opportunities.  Hardly any hurricanes (last major one was in 94, last before that was decades ago).  Decent education and plenty of opportunities for upward mobility.  Expats usually get housing allowances. Extremely safe (crime is on the rise, but just don't leave your common sense at home and you'll be fine).

Bad:
Expansive and limited sum up the cons. Small, sometimes has a fishbowl effect.  Housing is expensive and limited.  1 car per household (but great public transportation).  Crime is increasing.  Somewhat conservative society.  Surprisingly bad rush hour traffic.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: . . . on November 17, 2006, 08:46:02 AM
Chicago - Recommended

Plenty to do, great music scene, public transportation very easy, not outrageously expensive compared to other cities of similar size, Lake Michigan...

dont forget the negatives....

OK then:

traffic, the weather, the weather, and oh, the weather.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: bubDread on November 17, 2006, 08:49:17 AM
Chicago - Recommended

Plenty to do, great music scene, public transportation very easy, not outrageously expensive compared to other cities of similar size, Lake Michigan...

dont forget the negatives....

OK then:

traffic, the weather, the weather, and oh, the weather.

I learned about that last spring when I took my girlfriend to the flower show at Navy Pier.  It was in the middle of march, and I thought a spring jacket would suffice.  It was like 35 degress and raining and windy and I wanted to die.  We were walking around michigan avenue and stuff.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: . . . on November 17, 2006, 09:03:30 AM
Austin- recommended

Negative: it's in texas.

TITCR  ;)
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: cheesesteak on November 17, 2006, 09:20:06 AM
New Orleans, LA

Pro:  It's still one of America's most distinctive cities.  There is plenty of fun to be had here.  The jazz is still sublime.  Its warm here for most of the year.  The nation has not seen a rebuilding effort like this since SanFran.  The city is a huge sociological labratory.  There will be billions of dollars pouring into the city for the next who knows years.  If one wants to "make a difference" in the legal field or otherwise, this is the place to be.

Cons:  That destruction caused by a lil' hurricane called Katrina.  Crime. Very limited public transportation, uncertainty about the future...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 09:32:38 AM
New Orleans, LA

Pro:  It's still one of America's most distinctive cities.  There is plenty of fun to be had here.  The jazz is still sublime.  Its warm here for most of the year.  The nation has not seen a rebuilding effort like this since SanFran.  The city is a huge sociological labratory.  There will be billions of dollars pouring into the city for the next who knows years.  If one wants to "make a difference" in the legal field or otherwise, this is the place to be.

Cons:  That destruction caused by a lil' hurricane called Katrina.  Crime. Very limited public transportation, uncertainty about the future...

THATS THE key, isnt it?
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: cheesesteak on November 17, 2006, 09:40:46 AM
New Orleans, LA

Pro:  It's still one of America's most distinctive cities.  There is plenty of fun to be had here.  The jazz is still sublime.  Its warm here for most of the year.  The nation has not seen a rebuilding effort like this since SanFran.  The city is a huge sociological labratory.  There will be billions of dollars pouring into the city for the next who knows years.  If one wants to "make a difference" in the legal field or otherwise, this is the place to be.

Cons:  That destruction caused by a lil' hurricane called Katrina.  Crime. Very limited public transportation, uncertainty about the future...

THATS THE key, isnt it?

Thats precisely why it is so exciting to live here.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 09:42:41 AM
thats one way of looking at it...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Vick on November 17, 2006, 09:58:16 AM
Salt Lake City - Recommended

PROS:  If you like outdoor activities, there really isn't a better city.  30 minutes from 10k mountains perfect for skiing.  The dry climate makes for unbelievable powder.  Relatively low cost of living.  4 seasons.  It is beautiful.  Again, the mountains make for an amazing backdrop.     

CONS: While I genuinly love Utah for many reasons, its Republitopia to the max.  Outside of Salt Lake City, Moab, Park City and the University of Utah campus, the average voter would vote for Satan if the little R were by his name.  This bothers me.  I'm not bugged because I'm a strict Dem, but because people here equate their strong religious beliefs with the values of the Republican party, which in my mind, don't always mix.  The people's strong political leanings also make for a one party system, detrimental to a good democratic environment. 
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: cheesesteak on November 17, 2006, 10:07:52 AM
Salt Lake City - Recommended

PROS:  If you like outdoor activities, there really isn't a better city.  30 minutes from 10k mountains perfect for skiing.  The dry climate makes for unbelievable powder.  Relatively low cost of living.  4 seasons.  It is beautiful.  Again, the mountains make for an amazing backdrop.     

CONS: While I genuinly love Utah for many reasons, its Republitopia to the max.  Outside of Salt Lake City, Moab, Park City and the University of Utah campus, the average voter would vote for Satan if the little R were by his name.  This bothers me.  I'm not bugged because I'm a strict Dem, but because people here equate their strong religious beliefs with the values of the Republican party, which in my mind, don't always mix.  The people's strong political leanings also make for a one party system, detrimental to a good democratic environment. 
I love the SLC also, but you (unless you are mormon), forgot about the Mormans man.  They run the govt and the busineses.  Morman women won't sleep with you, though I have heard they are bj queens.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 10:41:42 AM
Salt Lake City - Recommended

PROS:  If you like outdoor activities, there really isn't a better city.  30 minutes from 10k mountains perfect for skiing.  The dry climate makes for unbelievable powder.  Relatively low cost of living.  4 seasons.  It is beautiful.  Again, the mountains make for an amazing backdrop.     

CONS: While I genuinly love Utah for many reasons, its Republitopia to the max.  Outside of Salt Lake City, Moab, Park City and the University of Utah campus, the average voter would vote for Satan if the little R were by his name.  This bothers me.  I'm not bugged because I'm a strict Dem, but because people here equate their strong religious beliefs with the values of the Republican party, which in my mind, don't always mix.  The people's strong political leanings also make for a one party system, detrimental to a good democratic environment. 
I love the SLC also, but you (unless you are mormon), forgot about the Mormans man.  They run the govt and the busineses.  Morman women won't sleep with you, though I have heard they are bj queens.

hmmmmm, i am looking for ne that can go the distance...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: jer on November 17, 2006, 10:47:05 AM
Austin- recommended

Negative: it's in texas.

TITCR  ;)

hey now....
dallas -
recommend - just about every pro sports team you could want,
amusement parks for the kids, museums, mild winters, tons of singles

negatives - summers can be brutal if you work outside or aren't used to it. don't buy a dark-colored car, they are microwaves.  other negative is people who have never even been to texas are so insecure with their home state they can't help but talk smack about texas

/just sayin'
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Vick on November 17, 2006, 10:47:21 AM
Salt Lake City - Recommended

PROS:  If you like outdoor activities, there really isn't a better city.  30 minutes from 10k mountains perfect for skiing.  The dry climate makes for unbelievable powder.  Relatively low cost of living.  4 seasons.  It is beautiful.  Again, the mountains make for an amazing backdrop.     

CONS: While I genuinly love Utah for many reasons, its Republitopia to the max.  Outside of Salt Lake City, Moab, Park City and the University of Utah campus, the average voter would vote for Satan if the little R were by his name.  This bothers me.  I'm not bugged because I'm a strict Dem, but because people here equate their strong religious beliefs with the values of the Republican party, which in my mind, don't always mix.  The people's strong political leanings also make for a one party system, detrimental to a good democratic environment. 
I love the SLC also, but you (unless you are mormon), forgot about the Mormans man.  They run the govt and the busineses.  Morman women won't sleep with you, though I have heard they are bj queens.

As much as Mormons make up a large part of the city (45%), then yes, they are in positions to run business and government.  The Church, however, mostly keeps to itself. 
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: jeff2486 on November 17, 2006, 10:56:53 AM
Philadelphia, PA

Somewhat recommended.  I believe the lowest COL of the major Northeast cities (Boston, NY, DC, Philly)

The nice parts of the city are great, but there are also PLENTY of bad areas. 

Weather is decent and if you want to experience all the seasons it is a great place.

Public transportation is weak, which detracts a lot from the city for me.

One of the Largest malls in the country is 20 minutes from the city in King of Prussia for anyone into shopping.  Also a fairly decent downtown shopping scene.
http://www.easternct.edu/depts/amerst/MallsLarge.htm

Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: princeofpersia on November 17, 2006, 11:03:10 AM
DC- recommended

Great city with everything you could ever want. Also a good place for young people.

On the flip side, the traffic can be pretty bad, we get all 4 seasons and COL is pretty high.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 11:06:33 AM
Richmond - NOT

Very racist town.  thats enough
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: cheesesteak on November 17, 2006, 11:20:40 AM
Philadelphia, PA

Somewhat recommended.  I believe the lowest COL of the major Northeast cities (Boston, NY, DC, Philly)

The nice parts of the city are great, but there are also PLENTY of bad areas. 

Weather is decent and if you want to experience all the seasons it is a great place.

Public transportation is weak, which detracts a lot from the city for me.

One of the Largest malls in the country is 20 minutes from the city in King of Prussia for anyone into shopping.  Also a fairly decent downtown shopping scene.
http://www.easternct.edu/depts/amerst/MallsLarge.htm


Philly is not NYC and it will never be NYC, but it doesn't want to be.  Thats what gets to me is when people complare Philly to NYC.  They are not comparable, period.  However, Philly has so much to offer in its own right.  People who don't know the city turn their noses up and say things like "Too dirty" or "Too much crime."  I like the grittiness and the crime has never been a problem for me.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: sara on November 17, 2006, 11:25:58 AM
City recommendations
•   live
o   Houston
o   Atlanta
o   Santa Barbara
o   Santa Cruz
o   San Diego
o   Nook communities in New Jersey and Pennsylvania near NYC
o   Nashville
o   Baton Rouge
o   Singapore
o   Sydney
•   visit
o   San Antonio
o   Cleveland
o   Austin
o   Dallas
o   San Francisco Bay Area
o   Los Angeles
o   NYC
o   Philadelphia
o   Boston
o   DC
o   Memphis
o   Denver
o   Seattle
o   Galveston
o   Rio de Janeiro
o   Belize City
•   avoid
o   Pittsburg
o   Detroit
o   Chicago
o   El paso
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Vick on November 17, 2006, 11:29:23 AM
City recommendations
•   live
o   Houston

•   avoid

o   Chicago



Avoid Chicago and live in Houston?  That's crazy talk!
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: FossilJ on November 17, 2006, 11:34:29 AM
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.


Eight months of frozen hell.  Dirty, dreary, windy.  City that indulges its ignorant, blue-collar mentality (note: those two are not necessarily always related, but here they are).  Monotonous, invariable nightlife.


I would not recommend it.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: jer on November 17, 2006, 11:43:03 AM
seattle washington

suicide capital of the world
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: austin on November 17, 2006, 12:09:26 PM
Austin- recommended

Negative: it's in texas.

Austin - not recommended

Allergy capital of the world.  If you've ever had a sinus infection, sore throat, or still have your tonsils, this town will eat you alive!  Lots of mold, cedar, pollen, etc. 

My allergies were actually less severe once I moved to Austin.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 12:21:08 PM
I recommend the bay area, but not necessairly SF. I'm glad I live here, but even if I was staying in the area, I'd probably want to live either on the peninsula or east bay after a year. The weather is much better outside of the city, housing is much cheaper, and public transit is amazing around here (you can still come to the city for dinner/events/etc).

But yeah, the biggest downsides of SF are the weather and the housing costs. Other than that I love it (liberal attitude, public transit, events, nightlife, restaurants, natural beauty, parks, 6 major professional sports teams, 1 major university, 1 junior university on the peninsula, etc.)

id say its my #1 choice EXCEPT for the housing

dang!
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: dbgirl on November 17, 2006, 12:28:16 PM
Blue, I take issue with you referring to the Tampa bay area as The Bay Area.
There is only ONE bay area that deserves the title "The Bay Area."  :P

And the San Francisco Bay Area is a great place to live.  I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 12:29:41 PM
Blue, I take issue with you referring to the Tampa bay area as The Bay Area.
There is only ONE bay area that deserves the title "The Bay Area."  :P

And the San Francisco Bay Area is a great place to live.  I highly recommend it.

give your reasons....



(and cup size)
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: dbgirl on November 17, 2006, 12:43:07 PM
Blue, I take issue with you referring to the Tampa bay area as The Bay Area.
There is only ONE bay area that deserves the title "The Bay Area."  :P

And the San Francisco Bay Area is a great place to live.  I highly recommend it.

give your reasons....



(and cup size)

It's near everything, the mountains, the ocean
The people are (generally speaking) really intelligent and open-minded
There is a lot of cultural diversity
People (generally) don't disparage different lifestyles (gay/interracial/umarried cohabitants or any combination thereof)
There is every type of great food imaginable out here
The weather is pretty f--king great (except today).

It's just an all-around fabulous place  :)


Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: FossilJ on November 17, 2006, 12:48:47 PM
Blue, I take issue with you referring to the Tampa bay area as The Bay Area.
There is only ONE bay area that deserves the title "The Bay Area."  :P

And the San Francisco Bay Area is a great place to live.  I highly recommend it.

give your reasons....



(and cup size)

It's near everything, the mountains, the ocean
The people are (generally speaking) really intelligent and open-minded
There is a lot of cultural diversity
People (generally) don't disparage different lifestyles (gay/interracial/umarried cohabitants or any combination thereof)
There is every type of great food imaginable out here
The weather is pretty f--king great (except today).

It's just an all-around fabulous place  :)




The weather's decent out here in the East Bay.   ;D
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: pikey on November 17, 2006, 12:58:28 PM
Anyone from (or know anything about) Portland?  My so has decided that he would like to live there and I'm like wtf.   :-\
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 01:00:07 PM
Anyone from (or know anything about) Portland?  My so has decided that he would like to live there and I'm like wtf.   :-\

ask Cindy
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 01:07:36 PM
Anyone from (or know anything about) Portland?  My so has decided that he would like to live there and I'm like wtf.   :-\

the only thing i might add, which you may or may not care about, is it doesnt seem to be very diverse...

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ADPTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=40000US71317&-context=adp&-ds_name=ACS_2005_EST_G00_&-tree_id=305&-_lang=en&-_caller=geoselect&-format=
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: S2X on November 17, 2006, 01:11:13 PM
Honolulu...recommend, of course.

Pros:
1) It's Hawaii
2) Warm weather year-round
3) Beaches
4) Friendly people everywhere
5) A bunch of stuff to do (go ahead and drive all over the island if you want to...or better yet, take one of those interisland flights during vacation and go to Maui or The Big Island or something too.)
6) If you like Asian girls, you'll hit the jackpot here.

Cons:
1) Cost of living is quite high, but then again, it is still manageable.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 01:14:12 PM
Honolulu...recommend, of course.

Pros:
1) It's Hawaii
2) Warm weather year-round
3) Beaches
4) Friendly people everywhere
5) A bunch of stuff to do (go ahead and drive all over the island if you want to...or better yet, take one of those interisland flights during vacation and go to Maui or The Big Island or something too.)
6) If you like Asian girls, you'll hit the jackpot here.

Cons:
1) Cost of living is quite high, but then again, it is still manageable.

ive heard they do NOT like white guys living there cause were all over their women.

and i would be.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: S2X on November 17, 2006, 01:19:07 PM
Well if they don't, I certainly haven't seen anything of the sort.

I say go for it anyway.   8)
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: FossilJ on November 17, 2006, 01:20:24 PM
Anyone from (or know anything about) Portland?  My so has decided that he would like to live there and I'm like wtf.   :-\

Portland, OR is a wonderful city! i spent a few summers there. It's beautiful in the summer, but pretty grey in the winter. It's a very liberal and very healthy city. Great music scene, easy to get around (free rapid transit!). Plus you are an hour from the beach to the west and an hour from the mountains to the east.


Word to the wise: never trust anyone's report of a northern city if they've only spent summers there.

If you have to survive 4-6 months of winter, you should be aware that these are the months that are going to provide a real measure of the city.  "Pretty grey" is already a flashing warning light.


Not saying the poster is necessarily wrong, or that Portland's a bad city.  I'm just saying I'd take anyone with only summer experience in a city's opinion with a grain of salt.
  
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: pikey on November 17, 2006, 01:34:29 PM
Anyone from (or know anything about) Portland?  My so has decided that he would like to live there and I'm like wtf.   :-\

Portland, OR is a wonderful city! i spent a few summers there. It's beautiful in the summer, but pretty grey in the winter. It's a very liberal and very healthy city. Great music scene, easy to get around (free rapid transit!). Plus you are an hour from the beach to the west and an hour from the mountains to the east.


Word to the wise: never trust anyone's report of a northern city if they've only spent summers there.

If you have to survive 4-6 months of winter, you should be aware that these are the months that are going to provide a real measure of the city.  "Pretty grey" is already a flashing warning light.


Not saying the poster is necessarily wrong, or that Portland's a bad city.  I'm just saying I'd take anyone with only summer experience in a city's opinion with a grain of salt.
 

TITCR- Seattle has the best weather in the summer of any city I've lived in (including SD, SF, Berkeley) but the worst weather overall. I've heard Portland feels very small and the weather is pretty similar to Seattle (although I've never been there personally, this is just from people in Seattle who used to live in Portland)

How diverse is it?  Blue's post about not being very diverse is exactly what I'm afraid of, but census numbers don't always tell the whole story.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: FossilJ on November 17, 2006, 01:36:30 PM
I'm only speaking from experience, really.  The nice part of Edmonton's summers (late May to early August, so about two and a half months) makes the city look absolutely gorgeous.  And, really, these months are very enjoyable -- even the mood of the population seems to change.

The moment fall comes nosing around in late August, though, the complexity of the city starts to shift.  By the time we hit late October, it's miserable, and it's reflected in everything.  If you don't feel like killing yourself by March, you're frustrated to find that it takes another two months for the city to thaw properly.  

I won't even go into all the practical headaches of winter.  Most people who've lived anywhere near snow would be able to fill you in.  There is something to be said for the severe cold, though.  It's hard to describe how aggravating it is to have to wait for a bus when it's -25 outside with the windchill.  This is a common occurrence every winter here.


I don't like the city, but I'm easily willing to admit that if it was summer here all year round, I'd probably be much more taken with it.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: orangie on November 17, 2006, 01:53:07 PM
NYC--recommend.
Pros--the best city in the world. 'nuff said.
Cons--nonexistent.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 02:00:10 PM
NYC--recommend.
Pros--the best city in the world. 'nuff said.
Cons--nonexistent.


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Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Vick on November 17, 2006, 02:01:10 PM
NYC--recommend.
Pros--the best city in the world. 'nuff said.
Cons--nonexistent.

CON - NYC smells like urine
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: FossilJ on November 17, 2006, 02:04:09 PM
Really big cities suck.  They're fun for a bit, but it wears out quickly for me.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Cindy on November 17, 2006, 02:35:09 PM
Anyone from (or know anything about) Portland?  My so has decided that he would like to live there and I'm like wtf.   :-\

ask Cindy

I've been in Portland for over 2 years and am still in love with this city. The city itself is small (500,000) but the entire Metro area is about twice that.

Pros:
lots to do. The ocean is an hour & 1/2 drive, Mt Hood is 45 minutes away for skiing & hiking, Mt St Helens is 50 miles away & great to watch puff & steam, public transit is great, it's a very bike friendly and eco-conscious, very liberal & progressive, often referred to as the most european city in america, the weather is great in the summer, you only need air conditioning for about 1 week of the entire year, it rains in the winter but snows on the ski hills, all the rain makes for a lot of green grass & trees, it rains less here than in Seattle, slower & more relaxed vibe than Seattle or San Francisco, many parks, random patches of forest in the city limits, vibrant music & arts scene, bars everywhere, mibro brew beer everywhere (there's a huge micro-brew festival in the park on the water in the summer), cost of living is good (my 2br is $700 a month & I can walk to work downtown), dedication to local business, farmer's markets all year, most affordable large city on the West Coast, access to naturapathic/alternative medicine, best city for vegetarian/vegan lifestyle according to PETA

Cons:
very white, ethnic groups tend to stay in "their" neighborhoods, the police shoot & kill a ridiculous number of people, homeless/mental health problem that the city can't seem to alleviate, traffic, urban sprawl in the suburbs, cost to buy a house in the city is really high, winter can be very grey (there are occasional sun breaks, like today)
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: orangie on November 17, 2006, 02:42:06 PM
NYC--recommend.
Pros--the best city in the world. 'nuff said.
Cons--nonexistent.

CON - NYC smells like urine

You must have very odd-smelling urine, I must say :o
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: waiting to be converted on November 17, 2006, 02:59:38 PM
I've lived both in Portland and in Seattle for the past 5 years after having grown up in the east coast.  There's constant comparisons between the two areas because they share a lot of similarities, but really the places are pretty different.  Basically, Seattle has a much bigger feel with the surrounding mountains and water and the corporate culture of Microsoft, Boeing, Amazon, Starbucks, etc.  Portland is much more calm and quiet and is more like a big town than a city with a lot more independent stores.  They both are fantastic for their vineyards (oregon pinot noir and washington syrah), coffee, microbrews, music scene, and outdoor adventure. 

I will say that the winters can be a bit much at times with the gray and rain, but the rain is typically light, not downpours, and the summers are without a doubt the best in the country.  I deal with the winters by heading into the mountains for skiing, which are only 30 minutes away from Seattle and about an hour and a half from Portland. 
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Cindy on November 17, 2006, 04:46:35 PM


I'm sure you could do a lot worse than Portland, but SF is not the "wrong city". **shakes head disapprovingly**

This just goes to show that I need to broaden my horizons. I didn't even know it was possible for rent to be so cheap! How glorious!


I lived in Spokane before Portland & a 2BR there is easily under $600. I worked in real estate & people were getting mortages on 3BR houses for $750. So if you're willing to go to Gonzaga...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: FossilJ on November 17, 2006, 04:52:03 PM
Good old Spokane.  I get Spokane television in Edmonton.  That's how bad it is up there.  hahahaha
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: t... on November 17, 2006, 05:26:26 PM
Boise, ID: Highly, highly recommend (though we don't want people moving here anymore than they do, so stay the hell out)

The Good

It's a all around medium city. Nothing super-great, nothing terribly-awful. It's still pretty small, especially the downtown area, so you do have to look to find the right spots. But once you cozy into Boise I honestly believe you'll never want to leave. We're not one of the nation's fastest growing cities for nothing. People here are still nice, though.

The cost of living is still great. 170,000 - 240,000 buys you a nice, new house. There is plenty of space (we are in the West), and the city rests beneath a gorgeous mountain backdrop (though not as spectacular as SLC). The traffic is getting worse, but still better than any metro area I've ever been in. The average commute from anywhere is probably less than 20 minutes. Employment is supposed to be really good, too.

This is a very, very bicycle friendly town. Boise is built around the Boise River, and there are several bike paths that parallel the river and run for miles. We have a ton of parks, and they're never crowded; usually the ducks and geese outnumber the people.

I'd say crime is non-existent in the sense that I don't feel scared at all of being mugged or stolen from, ever. It's pretty quiet most of the time, though we do have an occasional incident.

So many recreational oppurtunities. I think we've been voted the best city for mountain biking for several years, and there is a ski mountain 35 minutes away that also offers night skiing. Plus...Sun Valley, Tamarack, and Brundage resorts are only a few hours away. In the summer you can float the Boise river (the river is usually more crowded than the streets are).

The weather can't be beat, really. We have an occasional hot spell, but we also have very low humidity, so it isn't that noticeable. Falls seem to last forever, and the winters are extremely mild (though we've been getting more and more rain instead of snow lately).

Also...the BSU Broncos, the Record Exchange, Built to Spill, and the Northend.

The Bad

Not much for diversity. It's getting better, and while I don't think racism is really an issue overtly, we are very white, and very country-old fashioned still. So expect the usual jokes and complaining about minorities.

Growth/sprawl. It's coming, and it's starting to homogonize the area.

We are in a desert, so everything is really yellow and dry most of the year, and sometimes this isn't aesthetically pleasing. Fire seems to like it, though.

Dining. Not the selection you'd find in most other cities. You have to work to find good restaurants. They're there, but not in plenty.

Nightlife. It's trying, but the city does get really quiet at night. This doesn't bother me, though. I'd rather do something more...exciting than go bar/club hopping.

We are a Republican haven, and probably will be for quite some time (although in the last election it was very, very close). We are also typically more conservative, religious, and intolerant. We voted to ban gay marriage, and we have a lighted cross overlooking the city on a nearby hill. But we did vote to remove the 10 commandments from a municipal park memorial, so again...we're getting better.

Public transportation is non-existent. Sad.

A lot of bands skip this town.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: t... on November 17, 2006, 05:28:13 PM
On a related note, I highly recommend Portland (especially over Seattle). The weather isn't that bad at all, unless you're one of those types that absolutely needs sunshine. And so many other great things about it (here's hoping Measure 37 doesn't do the area great damage. Sigh Gov. McCall, we miss you).

And Bellingham, Washington. Quite simply the most amazing place I've ever been in my life (except for maybe Vermont).
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: iSalute on November 17, 2006, 05:29:17 PM
San Luis Obispo- Highly Recommended. I mean, avoid at all costs!

Can't beat it.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 17, 2006, 06:09:49 PM
don't see how anyone lives in Canada.

to frackin cold.

all you hot Canadian babes, come on down!
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: FossilJ on November 17, 2006, 06:14:06 PM
don't see how anyone lives in Canada.

to frackin cold.

all you hot Canadian babes, come on down!


They already did.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: jer on November 18, 2006, 07:16:20 AM
don't see how anyone lives in Canada.

to frackin cold.

all you hot Canadian babes, come on down!

and bring beer
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: cheesesteak on November 18, 2006, 08:56:48 AM
don't see how anyone lives in Canada.

to frackin cold.

all you hot Canadian babes, come on down!

and bring beer
Eh?
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: jer on November 18, 2006, 08:58:59 AM
don't see how anyone lives in Canada.

to frackin cold.

all you hot Canadian babes, come on down!

and bring beer
Eh?

i'm going to keep assuming you are from philly
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: cheesesteak on November 18, 2006, 08:59:57 AM
don't see how anyone lives in Canada.

to frackin cold.

all you hot Canadian babes, come on down!

and bring beer
Eh?
I am.  What does that have to do with anything? 
i'm going to keep assuming you are from philly
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: monserrat on November 18, 2006, 02:12:27 PM
City recommendations
•   live
o   Houston
o   Atlanta
o   Santa Barbara
o   Santa Cruz
o   San Diego
o   Nook communities in New Jersey and Pennsylvania near NYC
o   Nashville
o   Baton Rouge
o   Singapore
o   Sydney
•   visit
o   San Antonio
o   Cleveland
o   Austin
o   Dallas
o   San Francisco Bay Area
o   Los Angeles
o   NYC
o   Philadelphia
o   Boston
o   DC
o   Memphis
o   Denver
o   Seattle
o   Galveston
o   Rio de Janeiro
o   Belize City
•   avoid
o   Pittsburg
o   Detroit
o   Chicago
o   El paso


titcr
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: monserrat on November 18, 2006, 02:27:00 PM
LA: recommend if you like big cities and don't mind a sh*t ton of traffic, all hours, all days
pros- diverse, lots to do...clubs, museums (yes i know not as good as nyc), BEACH, theater, music, any type of food you want, liberal, mts a couple hours away, BEAutiful weather 85 today
cons-traffic, traffic, traffic, high COL, a lot of people who want to be actors, need a car

Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: mugatu on November 18, 2006, 03:31:47 PM
LA: recommend if you like big cities and don't mind a sh*t ton of traffic, all hours, all days
pros- diverse, lots to do...clubs, museums (yes i know not as good as nyc), BEACH, theater, music, any type of food you want, liberal, mts a couple hours away, BEAutiful weather 85 today
cons-traffic, traffic, traffic, high COL, a lot of people who want to be actors, need a car



you forgot air quality (unless you live by a beach.)
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: mugatu on November 18, 2006, 04:39:52 PM
You get used to LA after awhile.  Did you live there or just visit?
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: mugatu on November 18, 2006, 04:45:53 PM
The air quality in December is usually pretty good.   :D
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 18, 2006, 05:22:27 PM
I honestly believe the reviews would improve if they stayed in the beach communities of LA

but how many people can actually live there as opposed to the rest of LA?
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 18, 2006, 06:19:12 PM
I honestly believe the reviews would improve if they stayed in the beach communities of LA

but how many people can actually live there as opposed to the rest of LA?
for a rough guess find out how many 310 area code phone numbers there are and multiple that by average number of people per phone number.... um 4 million? or maybe something like this http://www.zipcodestats.com/index.php?city=WEST%20LOS%20ANGELES&county=LOS%20ANGELES&state=CALIFORNIA

but how many are really that close to the water?

and who on earth could buy there today???
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: orangie on November 20, 2006, 05:15:37 AM
Los Angeles is easily the worst place I've ever spent time in my life.

Horrid, horrid traffic. Aesthetically hideous. Superficial and arrogant people only concerned with who you know and how they can use you to get somewhere. Absurdly expensive. Poor air quality.

I see no redeeming qualities for wanting to live there unless you were super-rich.

New York and San Francisco blow LA away so hard.

I actually agree with this.  I only visited LA (it was in August), but it seemed like a smaller, dirtier, and worse version of NYC.  Dunno about SF, though.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 20, 2006, 05:20:50 AM
ID put DC on the recommend list

Pro's - JOB Center, culture, neat architecture, diversity, educated population

Cons - COLD!!!, COL, crime(in certain areas), too much PC...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Red Bull Imperator on November 20, 2006, 05:23:31 AM
Boston
NYC
and SF

The three best cities in the world..... No cons :)
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 20, 2006, 05:25:08 AM
Boston
NYC
and SF

The three best cities in the world..... No cons :)

really?

so there all cheap AND warm year round?

sweet!
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 20, 2006, 05:28:42 AM
I wouldn't recommend Phoenix to anyone who didn't like the outdoors and far too much sunshine. And 120+ degree heat (but that's mitigated by air conditioning nearly everywhere). If you want to practice criminal law, it's a boom market down here, especially with the rapid growth and "tough on" legislation.

Personally, I'd rather go home to the PacNW--perferably Portland. Always loved it there.

send monili a PM  she wants some info on portland...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: firewalker on November 20, 2006, 06:31:47 AM
New York? No brainer. An emphatic YES.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Cindy on November 20, 2006, 11:23:08 AM


Some people don't have "cheap" or "warm" on the radar when deciding good places to live.

In fact, including those two as main criteria will severely limit your choices.

I've given up on cheap. I'd rather enjoy the weather and spend all of my money on living expenses than freeze my a$$ off while living like a high roller.

I couldn't have said it better.
It snows about 1 day in the winter here in Portland, and that is more than enough for me.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 20, 2006, 11:24:57 AM
i want cheap and warm...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Cindy on November 20, 2006, 11:26:04 AM
i want cheap and warm...

Anything is going to be colder than Florida. Unless you move to rural Texas!
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: jer on November 20, 2006, 12:08:11 PM
when i lived in orlando, it sprinkled just about every afternoon at 4pm, for maybe 15 minutes.
when i lived outside albany, it snowed every day at 4pm.

i'm happy in dallas

/summers can be brutal,
but that's why God invented air conditioning
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 20, 2006, 12:36:36 PM
when i lived in orlando, it sprinkled just about every afternoon at 4pm, for maybe 15 minutes.
when i lived outside albany, it snowed every day at 4pm.

i'm happy in dallas

/summers can be brutal,
but that's why God invented air conditioning

ive heard about that, but those days seem to be long gone....

if i could live somewhere where its NEVER below 80, id be happy...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: jer on November 20, 2006, 12:46:26 PM
when i lived in orlando, it sprinkled just about every afternoon at 4pm, for maybe 15 minutes.
when i lived outside albany, it snowed every day at 4pm.

i'm happy in dallas

/summers can be brutal,
but that's why God invented air conditioning

ive heard about that, but those days seem to be long gone....

if i could live somewhere where its NEVER below 80, id be happy...

when it rained in orlando every afternoon for 15 minutes,
the sun was still out....really not even any cloud-cover blocking the sun.
it was just as bright and sunny as before it began to sprinkle.
10-15 minutes later, no more sprinkle.
it was kinda nice

snow every afternoon in NY, not so enjoyable
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on November 20, 2006, 12:58:13 PM
yep, i heard about the brief showers.

supposedly that stopped a while back.  these days, when it rains, it pours.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: jer on November 20, 2006, 01:27:54 PM

snow every afternoon in NY, not so enjoyable

Not in respectable parts of NY.  ;)

i wasn't aware there were respectable parts of NY.
/shows which crowd i hung out with
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: cheesesteak on November 20, 2006, 02:13:05 PM
I have always lived places with four seasons, where it starts getting cold in end of September, early October.  Now I'm in New Orleans, I finally got used to the warm weather, in fact I really began to like it, and then it gets firgin cold a few days ago.  But, still wearing the flip flops.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: jer on November 20, 2006, 02:33:22 PM
I have always lived places with four seasons, where it starts getting cold in end of September, early October.  Now I'm in New Orleans, I finally got used to the warm weather, in fact I really began to like it, and then it gets firgin cold a few days ago.  But, still wearing the flip flops.

that explains the drunk cat
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: cheesesteak on November 20, 2006, 02:35:00 PM
I have always lived places with four seasons, where it starts getting cold in end of September, early October.  Now I'm in New Orleans, I finally got used to the warm weather, in fact I really began to like it, and then it gets firgin cold a few days ago.  But, still wearing the flip flops.

that explains the drunk cat
I have beer, but not white fur.  Hmmmm.....
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: juliemccoy on November 20, 2006, 02:36:05 PM
Houston

A great place to live if you have family here or you have your own family, but I'm not a huge fan.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on May 23, 2007, 08:06:20 AM
keep em coming...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: beeker on May 23, 2007, 08:29:34 AM
Boston

Definitely recommend

Hip city without the pretension, never feel lost in the hustle

Things close too early, always feel lost on the one-way streets if you drive
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on May 23, 2007, 08:34:32 AM
Boston

Definitely recommend

Hip city without the pretension, never feel lost in the hustle

Things close too early, always feel lost on the one-way streets if you drive

and a bit cold?  and $$$?
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: beeker on May 23, 2007, 08:53:23 AM
Not everyone hates cold...and I don't make very much and I can still live in/enjoy Boston...you just can't live right on the common...but there are plenty of affordable neighborhoods
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Katie08 on May 23, 2007, 08:54:22 AM
my cities are Cleveland, St. Paul/Minneapolis, and Philly. I'd recommend all three, depending on what you're interested in.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: jer on May 23, 2007, 11:13:29 AM
i love dallas/ft worth
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on May 23, 2007, 11:18:23 AM
my cities are Cleveland, St. Paul/Minneapolis, and Philly. I'd recommend all three, depending on what you're interested in.

cleveland?

why?
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Pike#11 on May 23, 2007, 11:25:31 AM
Charlotte, NC:  I don't recommend if you're a young single person.  Mediocre at best night life, very family oriented, difficult to meet people.  On the flip side, you're only three - four hours away from the beach and a couple hours away from the Appalachian Mountains.  Cost of living is pretty cheap, especially if you don't live in Uptown, Dilworth, Southend, or Southpark.  Traffic isn't too bad but the city is outgrowing some of its existing roads and freeways.

Charleston, SC:  Great place to live, awesome night life and there's a ton of bars and restaurants.  Isle of Palms and Folly Beach are both nice beaches and great places to hang out.  The cost of housing is pretty high but everything else is pretty cheap.  Girls will love the shopping on King Street.  Traffic sucks and is made worse by all the old people and tourists in town, but if you live and work downtown, you never really have to get in your car.

The weather is pretty good in both places.  It can get pretty hot in the summer (mid-to-upper 90's) but you get used to it after a few years.  It only snows once or twice a year at the most.  Since I've been down here from Michigan (roughly 13 years ago), we've only had heavy snow twice.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Katie08 on May 23, 2007, 11:32:52 AM
my cities are Cleveland, St. Paul/Minneapolis, and Philly. I'd recommend all three, depending on what you're interested in.

cleveland?

why?

Relatively low cost of living, lots of fun/quirky neighborhoods, great arts (cleveland museum of art and the cleveland orchestra are nationally recognized as being great, and the art museum is free), it's right on lake erie, there's a lot of diversity, little italy is great, there are a ton of fun local eateries, and theres a lot of work going on to renovate the city (flats renovation, new convo center, etc).  especially for a young professional, there's a lot of space to get involved in civic life and revitalization, and that means lots of opprotunities. for families, there are great suburban schools, tons of arts and cultural opprotunities, and relative proximity to other cities makes for easy weekend outings (chicago, columbus, philly, dc are all within 7 hrs).  and I just love it :)
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: t... on May 23, 2007, 12:11:51 PM
I like it when people love where they live.

Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on May 23, 2007, 12:36:06 PM
DC and surrounding VA/MD suburbs

Pros:  The feeling of a large city, but you still get to see the sky (due to height restrictions).  Great architecture.  Always something to see or do downtown, and close to outdoor activities in Virginia and Maryland (camping/hiking/fishing/beaches).  Close to NYC if that's your sort of thing.  A lot of singles live in the city, and most people are pretty health-conscious.  The suburbs are full of young families.  The Metro (subway system) is relatively clean and manageable - a 30 minute metro/walk commute sure beats a 15 minute drive in my book.  Living here allows you to make fun of tourists.  DC is the place to go for government jobs and therefore a decent work schedule (usually less than 50 hours/week).  It's a diverse city, people coming here from all across the country.  Virginia has plenty of good public universities, and DC has the "DC Tuition Assistance Grant Program" which provides up to $10K a year to undergraduates studying at non-DC public universities.

Cons:  Cost of housing and to a lesser extent city/state taxes easily gobble up that government salary.  The summers are actually worse than the winters (and this is coming from a TX transplant) - extremely humid.  All in all, probably not the best place to raise kids.  Crime is high in some areas.  Many kids in DC are underprivileged and attend underperforming schools, and many kids in the suburbs of DC are overprivileged (snotty brats that party and spend Daddy's money).

and have those s3x parties.

i laughed my head off over that...
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Forget Money, Read a Book on May 23, 2007, 03:19:02 PM
Charlotte, NC:  I don't recommend if you're a young single person.  Mediocre at best night life, very family oriented, difficult to meet people.  On the flip side, you're only three - four hours away from the beach and a couple hours away from the Appalachian Mountains.  Cost of living is pretty cheap, especially if you don't live in Uptown, Dilworth, Southend, or Southpark.  Traffic isn't too bad but the city is outgrowing some of its existing roads and freeways.

Charleston, SC:  Great place to live, awesome night life and there's a ton of bars and restaurants.  Isle of Palms and Folly Beach are both nice beaches and great places to hang out.  The cost of housing is pretty high but everything else is pretty cheap.  Girls will love the shopping on King Street.  Traffic sucks and is made worse by all the old people and tourists in town, but if you live and work downtown, you never really have to get in your car.

The weather is pretty good in both places.  It can get pretty hot in the summer (mid-to-upper 90's) but you get used to it after a few years.  It only snows once or twice a year at the most.  Since I've been down here from Michigan (roughly 13 years ago), we've only had heavy snow twice.

Definitely second this one!!!  If not to live, definitely an awesome place to visit.

PROS:

Super friendly, voted most mannered for the last decade
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/01/17/best.manners.ap/

Superb QOL--you just can't beat it in the summer

Insane golf courses- charleston's hosting the Senior PGA Championship this weekend

Beaches

Restaurants/Resorts/Bars

Moderately Priced Housing

History/Culture

CONS:

No major sports teams--Panthers and Hurricanes are shared with NC

Not exactly Rodeo when it comes to shopping

Large gap b/w Rich and Poor
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Thistle on May 23, 2007, 04:23:58 PM
little rock.


you'd hate it.  don't come here.


there's enough damn traffic as it is
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on May 23, 2007, 04:47:06 PM
little rock.


you'd hate it.  don't come here.


there's enough damn traffic as it is

thanks


wont
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Astro on May 23, 2007, 05:53:43 PM
I like it when people love where they live.




<-- hates where he lives
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: t... on May 23, 2007, 05:57:47 PM
I like it when people love where they live.




<-- hates where he lives


Not for long.

Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Astro on May 23, 2007, 06:01:00 PM
I like it when people love where they live.




<-- hates where he lives


Not for long.




That's true.  Although two months is going to seem like an eternity.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: t... on May 23, 2007, 06:03:34 PM
Two months in Canada during the summer shouldn't seem like an eternity.

It should seem like a vacation.

Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Astro on May 23, 2007, 06:04:54 PM
Two months in Canada during the summer shouldn't seem like an eternity.

It should seem like a vacation.




You've never lived in Edmonton.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: pastor of muppets on May 23, 2007, 11:11:36 PM
Two months in Canada during the summer shouldn't seem like an eternity.

It should seem like a vacation.




You've never lived in Edmonton.


What do you think of Calgary?  I was there for a couple days a few summers ago and thought it was AWESOME.  But it was only a few days, and it was when the Calgary flames were doing well in the playoffs, so the city was quite abuzz.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Astro on May 23, 2007, 11:51:35 PM
Two months in Canada during the summer shouldn't seem like an eternity.

It should seem like a vacation.




You've never lived in Edmonton.


What do you think of Calgary?  I was there for a couple days a few summers ago and thought it was AWESOME.  But it was only a few days, and it was when the Calgary flames were doing well in the playoffs, so the city was quite abuzz.


1.  I don't like Calgary that much.
2.  Calgary absolutely PWNS Edmonton.
3.  Most Canadian cities are much more pleasant when the local NHL team is doing well.
4.  Summers can be tolerable here sometimes.'


My parents live in Calgary.  It's much better than where I'm currently living, but still pretty crappy.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: General2010 on May 23, 2007, 11:56:14 PM
Calgary seemed very nice when I went there--maybe a little boring, but a very clean and pretty city. Seems basically like Canada's version of Denver. Its close proximity to Banff and Lake Louise is also a plus.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Astro on May 24, 2007, 12:01:04 AM
Banff and Lake Louise are awesome.  But I'm too poor to ski.   :-\
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: t... on May 24, 2007, 07:05:37 AM
He's already smitten with ya, Stanley.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: General2010 on May 24, 2007, 07:58:36 AM
Banff and Lake Louise are awesome.  But I'm too poor to ski.   :-\


Go during the summers--it's beautiful then and there's plenty to do.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: tralafalala on May 24, 2007, 08:06:59 AM
no, i don't even want to think about living remotely close to any of you guys. 
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: AspenLizzy on May 24, 2007, 08:58:41 AM
I've been everywhere, man... and here's my $0.02

Southeastern CT (New London, Mystic, Groton, Ledyard)

Beautiful seasons with mild winters and the occasional hurricane and nor-easter.  Close to the beach.  Great place for families.  Jobs are plentiful for science and hospitality types with General Dynamics, Dow Chemical, and Pfizer as well as the resort town of Mystic all near by.  No traffic.  New London, Mystic, and Westerly (RI) all good places for young people with plenty of bars, clubs, and affordable housing.

Bronx, NY

University area is full of affordable shopping and colorful bodegas.  Parking is abundant.  NYC public transportation is amazing, and traffic is never a big issue here.  Many parts of the bourough is depressed and crime ridden.  HOT summers and very cold, windy winters.

Albuquerque, NM

My heart beats for this town.  It is vibrant, with amazing sunshine, good skiing nearby, and blissfully affordable.  I miss the coffee houses and bowling alleys the most.  UNM campus is a desert oasis.  People are friendly and active.  Restaurants are unparalled with amazing New Mexican, Greek, and Middle Eastern food around every corner.  Professional jobs are scarce, and crime is an issue for those involved, but I highly recommend 'borque, even above Santa Fe and Taos.

Denver, CO

I was only here for 6 months, helping my brother with a nasty divorce and move, so my opinion is admittedly biased.  I find Denver full of Big City hassle without much Big City cultural benefit.  I lived in the Capitol Hill area in a refurbished victorian mansion.  When I went to see my apartment for the first time I was amazed I could live in a castle, with 500 sq feet for $425 a month including.  I found out the night I moved in that the neighborhood is run by crack dealers and pimps, eventhough most of these people live many blocks away.  Apparently they commute to cater to the downtown homeless/ destitute.  The art museum and library are beautiful, but poorly stocked and empty on most days.
The town is inexpensive, but very sprawled.  Hot summers, different winters each year.  Some people love it.  I didn't.

Colorado Rockies (Aspen, Vail, Summit and Pitkin Counties)

Pitkin county and Aspen are arguably the most beautiful places on earth.  The wide vallies are picturesque from every angle.  Plenty to do with four ski resorts, gold medal fishing, and river sports galore.  The ratio of bars and restaurants to residents is insane.  Unfortunately there is nowhere to buy underware or socks for a reasonable price within 40 miles.  The best lingere store, and only local womens respite, Cheeks, was closed a few weeks ago when the owner died tragically of hypothermia after passing out in a creek.  Local bars and restaurants struggle here with increasing rents, and many are slated to close or have closed.  I am sorry to inform anyone who has been here that the Red Onion is gone.  It will become high end retail and condos sometime this summer.  Cooper Street is also on the chopping block with a similar fate.  Housing is tough for the first year, until you get to know people.  Then it is easy.  More jobs than you can shake a stick at.  Free public transportation.

Vail and Summit county can be likened to steaming pits of poo which will hopefully be swallowed my their narrow valley and dragged to the pits of hell soon.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Astro on May 24, 2007, 09:13:15 AM
Banff and Lake Louise are awesome.  But I'm too poor to ski.   :-\


Go during the summers--it's beautiful then and there's plenty to do.


Dude.  I've lived here for ten years.  Trust me, I've been there during the summer.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: bean22 on May 24, 2007, 09:14:12 AM
I *love* Seattle.

pros: the weather (seriously) - it doesn't rain *that* much and between april-sep/october it is warmish (65-80) and usually sunny (and if it rains, it is probably sunny at some point during the day). it's...temperate. also, there aren't that many stupid people (i think it was named the most educated city last year). lots of job and educational opportunities. lots of things to do - outdoors (mountains to the east and west, lots of lakes, the ocean isn't too far away) and indoors(several sport venues and good music/arts). it's also really pretty, especially on a clear day (mountains and trees and water all around. people are generally nice.

cons: people can be snobby. public transportation is to be desired. traffic can be terrible (but I've seen worse in SoCal and D.C....way worse.) If it snows, the city is screwed (lack of equipment since it rarely happens, and many hills making it difficult for even capable vehicles). it does rain sometimes, and it can get somewhat cold in the winter. but, again, nothing compared to the midwest.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: General2010 on May 24, 2007, 01:04:18 PM
Banff and Lake Louise are awesome.  But I'm too poor to ski.   :-\


Go during the summers--it's beautiful then and there's plenty to do.


Dude.  I've lived here for ten years.  Trust me, I've been there during the summer.


So then you obviously know there is much more to do in those places than ski.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: UFBoldAsLove on May 24, 2007, 01:16:49 PM
My college town: Gville-

Recommended if its for law school, after that, not so much. Great weather, atmosphere, the GATORS ;), the clubs suck, but then I'm a bar girl. :D

My home town: Deland --> (We'll go ahead and call this one Daytona/New Symrna Beach/Orlando)

- Recommended if you love the beach, and small town life... and thats about it. lol. Otherwise, avoid it like the plague.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ljg on May 25, 2007, 08:00:16 AM
Boston
NYC
and SF

The three best cities in the world..... No cons :)

Credited!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: justbu82 on May 25, 2007, 08:24:55 AM
Kalamazoo

Pros: The name itself, a recently feature motion picture staring Blossom was made here, Bells Brewery, and Home of the world’s largest medieval conference.

Cons: Steve Colbert ripped on the town, undergrads propagating like the bubonic plague, the name itself, too many pretentious hippies, a one to one ratio of cop to college student, needs more eclectic restaurants.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: skier4life on May 25, 2007, 11:20:23 AM
Seattle - Recommended

Pros - The summers here are fantastic.  No other place I have been really compares, and I haved lived in hawaii for every summer before the last two.  Just turns into a different city.  Great happy hours, but only a mediocre night life.  Grew up in Tacoma(just south of seattle) which kind of sucks, went to school in seattle(which I loved), now live rent free on the eastside and this place is hellish.  The yuppiest area I have ever seen.  While skiing is very accessible there is only one mountain here which is worth a damn and that is Crystal.  All other ski areas are very limited and crowded.  Whistler is very close, which is awesome for skiing and nightlife.  Sonics got the number 2 draft pick.  Great local bands.

Cons - A way higher COL than people think.  We are definitely getting more expensive.  Skiing is mediocre, winter here is just depressing.  It finally got to me this year.  The worst thing ever is the traffic.  Bad at all times of the day (excluding some weekends).  I have a friend who travels 5 days out of the week for his job. He has been to every major city in the country, and with the possible exception of a few he believes seattle is the worst he has seen.  This would be ok if we had public transportation but it is non-existent and almost seems impossible to build at this point.  People are not especially friendly.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Thistle on May 25, 2007, 02:50:54 PM
My college town: Gville-

Recommended if its for law school, after that, not so much. Great weather, atmosphere, the GATORS ;), the clubs suck, but then I'm a bar girl. :D

My home town: Deland --> (We'll go ahead and call this one Daytona/New Symrna Beach/Orlando)

- Recommended if you love the beach, and small town life... and thats about it. lol. Otherwise, avoid it like the plague.


you *really* need to put up a bikini pic. 

or at least pm one to me  :D
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Para Legal on May 25, 2007, 06:54:24 PM
Chicago:

Awesome town, just...awesome overall. Con: cost of living inversely proportional to the proximity of one's dwelling to the lakefront.

Milwaukee:

Chicago's little sister- not as inexpensive as you think, but still, a fun smaller town- good for a night on the town and great for families as well as singles. You can still see the Cubs/Bulls play in Milwaukee for less than tix cost at home in Chicago.

Con: cost of living inversely proportional to the proximity of one's dwelling to the lakefront.

Western shore of Lake Michigan in general: great place to live and work. Midwestern attitude with big-city perks.

Not that this is stopping me from packing up and moving to the Twin Cities...

Cheers,

Para  :D
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on May 25, 2007, 06:56:13 PM
NYC:

Because it's the *&^%...that is all that needs to be said  ;)
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: civil blu 1922 on May 25, 2007, 08:29:52 PM
St. Louis- NO!

Cons:  Not diverse, very humid, racist, not much entertainment, only one nationally known athletic team (Cardinals), no NBA team,downtown area lacking, lazy men, whack nightlife

Pros: Moderate cost of living, not too much traffic, moderate weather, nice population (not too big, not too small), Mardi Gra celebration, MLB Champions Cardinals!!!, only 4 hours from Chicago
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: UFBoldAsLove on May 26, 2007, 08:37:28 AM
My college town: Gville-

Recommended if its for law school, after that, not so much. Great weather, atmosphere, the GATORS ;), the clubs suck, but then I'm a bar girl. :D

My home town: Deland --> (We'll go ahead and call this one Daytona/New Symrna Beach/Orlando)

- Recommended if you love the beach, and small town life... and thats about it. lol. Otherwise, avoid it like the plague.


you *really* need to put up a bikini pic. 

or at least pm one to me  :D


Sketchy. lol.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on May 26, 2007, 09:07:11 AM
My college town: Gville-

Recommended if its for law school, after that, not so much. Great weather, atmosphere, the GATORS ;), the clubs suck, but then I'm a bar girl. :D

My home town: Deland --> (We'll go ahead and call this one Daytona/New Symrna Beach/Orlando)

- Recommended if you love the beach, and small town life... and thats about it. lol. Otherwise, avoid it like the plague.


you *really* need to put up a bikini pic. 

or at least pm one to me  :D


Sketchy. lol.

does that mean we need to ask in a diiferent way?
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Thistle on May 26, 2007, 11:36:59 AM
My college town: Gville-

Recommended if its for law school, after that, not so much. Great weather, atmosphere, the GATORS ;), the clubs suck, but then I'm a bar girl. :D

My home town: Deland --> (We'll go ahead and call this one Daytona/New Symrna Beach/Orlando)

- Recommended if you love the beach, and small town life... and thats about it. lol. Otherwise, avoid it like the plague.


you *really* need to put up a bikini pic. 

or at least pm one to me  :D


Sketchy. lol.

does that mean we need to ask in a diiferent way?


puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze put up a bikini pic?

Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: The Poster on May 26, 2007, 11:55:28 AM
Find a city, find yourself a city to live in.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on May 26, 2007, 09:34:28 PM
nyc is great

...giuliani cleaned it up...
bloomberg successfully riding giuliani's coat-tails.

Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on May 27, 2007, 05:04:38 PM
nyc is great

...giuliani cleaned it up...
bloomberg successfully riding giuliani's coat-tails.



screw giuliani
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on August 09, 2007, 05:06:39 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/08/nyc.weather/index.html

 Storms kill one, disrupt travel around New York City

a tornado in NYC?!?!?!   :o
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: AspenLizzy on June 22, 2008, 07:03:05 AM
Miami...NO NO NO NO. Don't even think about it unless you love traffic, violent crime, and a perpetually pissed off populace. Downtown is a ghostown after 6pm and the beach is incredibly overpriced, not to mention complete inaccessable by public transportation. Coconut grove may be the city's one saving grace for the 20-30 set but be really careful to stay in the core. Stray 2 blocks off course and you could end up with a new pimp. Word.
Title: Re: Would you recomend your city? Why or why not?
Post by: ->Soon on June 25, 2008, 08:15:53 AM
Miami...NO NO NO NO. Don't even think about it unless you love traffic, violent crime, and a perpetually pissed off populace. Downtown is a ghostown after 6pm and the beach is incredibly overpriced, not to mention complete inaccessable by public transportation. Coconut grove may be the city's one saving grace for the 20-30 set but be really careful to stay in the core. Stray 2 blocks off course and you could end up with a new pimp. Word.

but how do you really feel?