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Deciding Where to Go => Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists => Topic started by: sarahsmith on July 28, 2006, 09:24:30 AM

Title: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: sarahsmith on July 28, 2006, 09:24:30 AM
So..why don't we start a post of the best,gutsiet techniques that really catch the admissions eye when deciding who to pull from the WL.

I've used the "I'm a guarantee show if you take me"
Obviously having connections can definitely push you up..but what else do they want to see? That I've overcome some miraculous obstacle in the few months that I applied..or that I've received the Nobel Peace Prize?

couldn't hurt.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: sarahsmith on July 28, 2006, 09:30:30 AM
Don't just view this post- REPLY. Share your own ideas or something you've heard. Most schools WL because the student IS what they are looking for, but space is the limiting factor. So, what else can set YOU apart?

let's brainstorm together and get as many students paired to their FIRST-CHOICE!
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: faultytowers on July 28, 2006, 09:33:47 AM
Good idea for a topic. I'm afraid I don't really have anything other than the strategies you mentioned already.

From what I've heard, there are people who send the admissions office many, MANY letters over the course of the summer, but I can't really imagine how they could continue to provide substantive updates in that many letters. I think showing good judgement is probably a better strategy; a letter every 3-4 weeks or so seems sufficient. That said, there have been a number of people on this board who got off a wailtist by "spamming" the admissions office, so maybe good judgement doesn't pay off. 

I think it also makes sense to go visit the place, even if they don't grant interviews. Just showing your face probably gives you a slight edge.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: Jolie Was Here on July 28, 2006, 09:55:40 AM
I don't know that I have any impressive suggestions, but I did pretty well with the waitlists this cycle.  I was WLed at 4 schools, ultimately accepted at 2 and withdrew from the other 2 before they reached a decision.  (Of course, the whole story would have been more impressive if I hadn't been such a gosh-dang splitter and had just been accepted outright!)

I didn't visit either of the schools that accepted me off the waitlist, and I sent them each one letter of continued interest. 

The only slighly unusual thing I did was to send Michigan's Dean of Admissions a thank-you letter.  As anyone who has dealt with them can attest, they have the hands-down classiest admissions staff.  Their communications are detailed and sincere and always acknowledge the stress of the applicant.  Anyway, I wrote a very sincere note thanking her for their kindness.  I even said that I'd considered writing the note earlier in the cycle, but held off because I was concerned that I'd come off as a brown-noser. 

I don't honestly think that I was accepted because of this letter.  But she did mention it when she called to assess my interest in Michigan (about three days before the official offer.)  If anything, it just made the conversation a bit more personal.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: kavalier on August 02, 2006, 08:56:24 PM
As someone who was recently admitted off of my first choice school's waitlist, I would definitely recommend going to the schools, if feasible geographically/financially, and trying to speak to an Admissions Officer. I wasn't able to see anyone when I went to the schools (as I expected) but at least I got to drop off my letter of continued interest in person, which I think reinforced my enthusiasm to attend the schools. Also, I sent letters of continued interest every 3-4 weeks over the past few months.  I didn't really have any new accomplishments to discuss, but simply drew out another item on my resume that I felt was strong.

It also doesn't hurt to try and speak to staff members of departments/centers/programs that you're interested in at the particular law school. When I was able to speak to someone in the public interest center, or the international programs department, I had a chance to express my interest in attending the school and also that I was a waitlisted applicant.  In one case, the staff member was very straightforward with me about the waitlist situation, which was definitely more information that I was able to get from the admissions staff.

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Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: Officer Rod Farva on August 02, 2006, 09:15:21 PM
I guess that if you are waitlisted, you should make it exceedingly clear how interested you are in a school, but you should do so in a way that does more than give lipservice to that school's values.

edit: The above advice was sufficient for me, and appears to also have been necessary.



Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: gratif on March 31, 2007, 04:45:03 AM
Dear admissions:
Who do I have to sleep with to get into your school?
Thanks,
gratif
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: donvito on March 31, 2007, 04:22:43 PM
Dear admissions:
Who do I have to sleep with to get into your school?
Thanks,
gratif

i just hope it doesnt end up being the university's equivalent to Kingsfield.  haha.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: ksigman123 on April 01, 2007, 02:11:46 AM
honestly the best way to get off a waitlist is to retake the LSAT and gain a few points...im not doing it cause i cant mentally go through that POS and my want to get off my waitlists is not that high considering the extra tuition i would assume (no fin aid probably) and the pain and sufering id go through taking that test again...
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: Pugnacious on April 03, 2007, 12:17:28 AM
tag
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: SilentSwirl on April 03, 2007, 09:47:56 PM
You could always say that you were Time Magazine's person of the year for 2006...

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html

The first true 'gutsy' idea, and one that is actually do-able. Did you try it? The worst that could happen is they could reject you, which they might do anyway.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: madwoodee on April 04, 2007, 05:44:12 AM
Good topic.

I was under the impression that additional letters were bad, unless you had something to add.  Now, I plan on writing a continued interest letter to my deferred school highlighting the reasons I want to go.  Maybe I'll be ballsy enough to drop it off in person.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: Money, baby on April 26, 2007, 06:53:42 AM
bump
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: bamf on April 26, 2007, 07:36:21 AM
I've been considering sending a poem or series of haikus to one of my waitlist schools ... just to see what happens
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: Money, baby on April 26, 2007, 08:27:00 AM
DO IT!!!  ;D

Seriously, adcoms must see the most ridiculous stuff around this time of year.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: Jen2bJD on April 30, 2007, 04:31:23 PM
tag. I'm on four WLs.  :-\
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: gratif on April 30, 2007, 05:33:30 PM
....and I just got WL on by my #1.  *cry.*
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: ě on April 30, 2007, 05:43:53 PM
I'm guessing that anything too creative / "impressive" / original (such as haikus) are just going to make them annoyed and send you to the rejection bin. Schools usually have a quite long wait list for a very few spots (Rutgers-N admitted approx 12 people off the wait list last cycle). Best way would probably be to retake the LSAT, second best just emphasis your desire to stay, maybe reinforce this point by being honest enough to say that "I was rejected from <good school>, but have gotten an offer from <little less good school>" etc, to actually show that they ARE your first choice.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: Money, baby on May 01, 2007, 04:50:33 AM
....and I just got WL on by my #1.  *cry.*

Oooh, ouch, sorry gratif  :(
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: jpw8v on May 10, 2007, 02:07:26 PM
This is what a man did to get off the waitlist (a few years ago)... UVA Law put him on the waitlist, and when he was sitting at a bus stop near the law school in Charlottesville he heard a guy talking about how he had planned on going to UVA Law the next year but was going to have to drop out becuase his father was sick.  The waitlisted guy asked for the man's name, went straight to the admissions office and said "I just talked to Joe Schmo and he isn't coming here anymore, can I have his spot".  ANd they let him in.  True story.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: ě on May 10, 2007, 02:38:11 PM
Yeah, sure it's a true story. Just like the woman who just walked in to the Dean's office at UPenn and offered to pay tuition right away. Because the most difficult thing for UPenn is to actually find people willing to pay tuition to fill up classes.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: the always open mouth on May 20, 2007, 08:53:08 PM
If I retook the LSAT it would be my third test. Would this not be in good judgement?
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: ě on May 21, 2007, 06:17:39 AM
If you make a decent improvement I don't see a problem in it, really. There's another topic on a similar issue with someone taking their 4th, and people didn't seem too concerned about that either. Although if you score 3 tests very evenly you've largely solidified you in that area in the eyes of adcoms I guess.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: Jen2bJD on May 21, 2007, 10:53:48 AM
I would think that taking the test three times would become more common with the new ABA policy. You get to keep your highest score, so why not take it if you think you can improve?
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: the always open mouth on May 21, 2007, 11:47:23 AM
Thanks guys, but it looks like late registration for the June 11th test ended on May 18th, so I guess I'm S.O.L.
Title: Re: The Most Impressive Way to get off WL
Post by: ě on May 22, 2007, 05:15:29 AM
You could always try contacting the LSAC and smooch up to them I guess. No idea if they do make exceptions or not, but worth case scenario you've wasted a 50 cent phone call.