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Applying to Law School => Law School Admissions => Topic started by: *objection* on August 10, 2004, 04:00:14 PM

Title: HELP!!
Post by: *objection* on August 10, 2004, 04:00:14 PM
 ???HELLO EVERYONE..
i knw this might sound strange but im an 18 yr old female livin in dubai united arab emirates (born american citizen)
college is just around the corner..ofcourse i cant apply to law school yet or anythin..but i wud like to eventually study law..is their anythin i shud preferably major in in college in order to eventually get to a good law school??for example i was thinkin of goi into international studies
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: darren on August 10, 2004, 04:02:03 PM
I think you should do whatever you feel interested in.  You never know, in 4 years you might not be so interested in law any more.  But even if you are, you'll be in the best position if you choose something you like and will enjoy studying, because that's how you'll get the grades that you'll need to get into the best law school possible.

Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: M2 on August 10, 2004, 04:14:43 PM
Pick whatever you want and make sure you work hard.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: wstaffor on August 10, 2004, 04:30:23 PM
???HELLO EVERYONE..
i knw this might sound strange but im an 18 yr old female livin in dubai united arab emirates (born american citizen)
college is just around the corner..ofcourse i cant apply to law school yet or anythin..but i wud like to eventually study law..is their anythin i shud preferably major in in college in order to eventually get to a good law school??for example i was thinkin of goi into international studies

I would focus on obtaining a better grasp of the English language.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: Ginatio on August 10, 2004, 04:33:56 PM
nice

???HELLO EVERYONE..
i knw this might sound strange but im an 18 yr old female livin in dubai united arab emirates (born american citizen)
college is just around the corner..ofcourse i cant apply to law school yet or anythin..but i wud like to eventually study law..is their anythin i shud preferably major in in college in order to eventually get to a good law school??for example i was thinkin of goi into international studies

I would focus on obtaining a better grasp of the English language.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: *objection* on August 10, 2004, 05:34:40 PM
^^sweet
thts very kind of u
do i hafta be a smart-ass to be a lawyer
or do i eventually become one?
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: Ginatio on August 10, 2004, 05:36:17 PM
^^sweet
thts very kind of u
do i hafta be a smart-ass to be lawyer?
or do i eventually become one?

you have to be a smart-ass to become one... or a smartass... or a smart ass. one or the other
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: dsong02 on August 10, 2004, 05:38:32 PM
^^sweet
thts very kind of u
do i hafta be a smart-ass to be lawyer?
or do i eventually become one?

you dont hafta be a smart-ass...but you do hafta learn to spell 'have to' correctly
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: darren on August 10, 2004, 05:40:47 PM
^^sweet
thts very kind of u
do i hafta be a smart-ass to be lawyer?
or do i eventually become one?

you dont hafta be a smart-ass...but you do hafta learn to spell 'have to' correctly

I think she was referring to the Hmong-American Free Trade Agreement (HAFTA)
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: *objection* on August 10, 2004, 05:42:12 PM
pplz wat is ur problem?
does it bother u tht im an 18 yr old female
worried abt my future education and not some 9-mnth pregnant  pothead?
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: *objection* on August 10, 2004, 05:45:16 PM
i am sorry  my shortcuts are bothering u people so much...it seems like u guys do not get out much..is that better no shortenings?
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: dsong02 on August 10, 2004, 05:50:20 PM
pplz wat is ur problem?
does it bother u tht im an 18 yr old female
worried abt my future education and not some 9-mnth pregnant  pothead?

you shouldnt talk about darkcho's girlfriend like that.  thats really not nice.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: darren on August 10, 2004, 05:50:52 PM
pplz wat is ur problem?
does it bother u tht im an 18 yr old female
worried abt my future education and not some 9-mnth pregnant pothead?

It's great that you're thinking about your education.  We've all been in universityland for so long that it becomes very hard to write any way other than the "proper" way or something approaching.  Maybe The Man has ripped our souls away.  Either way don't worry about it.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: dsong02 on August 10, 2004, 05:51:53 PM
i am sorry  my shortcuts are bothering u people so much...it seems like u guys do not get out much..is that better no shortenings?

these 'shortenings' might be acceptable on other boards, but we are very mature people who like to use proper grammar and speak to each other in incredibly civilized ways.  







PUHAHAHAHA...i couldnt stop laughing at that even as i was typing.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: dgatl on August 10, 2004, 05:57:42 PM
*objection* will you be doing your studies in dubai or are you coming to the US for your undergraduate degree?  you need to major in something challenging and something that interests you.  you also need to bust your ass and make sure that you have the best grades possible.  the LSAT exam is unlike any exam that you have ever taken before, so you will need to prepare as much as possible so that you can get a good score. 

just do a google search for pre-law, and you will come across various website of university pre-law information.  they will be a good start for you.  good luck.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: *objection* on August 10, 2004, 06:01:57 PM





...no comment
its 4am
im to sleepy to say anything
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: swifty on August 10, 2004, 08:42:26 PM
From what I've heard, if you focus on any area of the "sciences," law schools look favorably at that.  I don't know if engineering is a science, but a lot of people got into great schools with that degree even though it goes beyond conventional wisdom.

For you engineers, yout degree is becoming to generic, it used to be civil, electrical, mechanical, now all you have to do is know computers get a Computer science degree (MIS is what they call it at my school) and you can call yourself an engineer.  what's up with that
*&^%?
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: casino on August 10, 2004, 09:02:42 PM
a lot of people study political science.  but i think i read somewhere that just as many lawyers recommend studying business before law school than liberal arts.

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Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: dgatl on August 10, 2004, 09:31:47 PM

For you engineers, yout degree is becoming to generic, it used to be civil, electrical, mechanical, now all you have to do is know computers get a Computer science degree (MIS is what they call it at my school) and you can call yourself an engineer.  what's up with that
*&^%?

Hmm, I got a BS in Chemical Engineering, not plain ol' engineering.  Now, information science is NOT engineering.  All the MIS people graduated from the College of Business.  I don't think law schools necessarily look favorably on engineering or science degrees unless they are Patent/IP heavy schools.  But I have noticed that usually patent attorneys with a science background had a PhD, while people with an engineering background had a BS or BE degree.

Do I recommend that *objection* major in engineering?  Yes and No.  Yes because its a good precursor for patent/IP law, which still remains in demand.  No because these last  five years of my life were hell on earth.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: swifty on August 10, 2004, 09:45:56 PM
Yeah well that's my point.  If you majored in chemical engineering, that is one hell of a tough major, and is respected regardless of law school.  I just hate people comng from 2 yesr tech schools, learn about computers, and call themselves engineers.  It's more frequent than apparently you think.  My uncle majored in nuclear engineering, and still uses AOL (I hope you get the innuendo)  The point is if I majored ohemical, civil, nuclear engineering etc, I sure as hell don't want to be classified in the same group as a "computer engineer"  That's terrible, and I am neither.  (Economics)  ;D
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: dgatl on August 10, 2004, 09:49:01 PM



I just hate people comng from 2 yesr tech schools, learn about computers, and call themselves engineers.  It's more frequent than apparently you think. 

what i hated the most were people with AA degrees who then got cisco or microsoft certified and called themselves engineers.  no, you're just a temp until the problem is fixed, beeyatch.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: swifty on August 10, 2004, 09:49:47 PM
btw, i hate ppls who tpye lik thisss
u all s/b able 2 tpye @ a pro. lvl.

Keep that *&^% to chatting, even though I hate it there too. 
I understand typos, but why do certain very smart people not know where there "shift key is located?   >:(
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: dgatl on August 10, 2004, 09:54:05 PM
btw, i hate ppls who tpye lik thisss
u all s/b able 2 tpye @ a pro. lvl.

Keep that *&^% to chatting, even though I hate it there too. 
I understand typos, but why do certain very smart people not know where there "shift key is located?   >:(

I would say LOL, but instead I'll use a  ;D
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: swifty on August 10, 2004, 09:56:25 PM
a lot of people study political science.  but i think i read somewhere that just as many lawyers recommend studying business before law school than liberal arts.

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I had two choices when I returned to school, major in accouning which is a field I worked in for 10 years, or major in Economics, a field that is not as difficult (at least I thought)
and law schools would prefer an Econ major over and accounting major.  I think I got some bad advice. I would have received all A's in accounting, and Economics threw me a little so I only really had about a 3.3 GPA after returning, and ended up with a 2.67 (LSADS is in the process right now of whittling away at my GPA)   :(
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: dgatl on August 10, 2004, 09:59:14 PM
(at least I thought)
and law schools would prefer an Econ major over and accounting major.  I think I got some bad advice.

Whoever gave you that advice was dead wrong.  All my friends with accounting degrees are getting ready to be masters of tax law.  If you have the background, perhaps you will be able to go for the LLM in taxation at UF.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: swifty on August 10, 2004, 10:09:22 PM



I just hate people comng from 2 yesr tech schools, learn about computers, and call themselves engineers.  It's more frequent than apparently you think. 

what i hated the most were people with AA degrees who then got cisco or microsoft certified and called themselves engineers.  no, you're just a temp until the problem is fixed, beeyatch.

Exactly, I don't see how they can help build bridges, or provide support to a nuclear energy plant.  Somebody should have Ginatio chime in, I bet he is offended, unless I am totally wrong about his degree.  He does talk a lot about tech stuff though.  Ginatio?
What do you think about this generic trend of "engineers"?

P.S.  Most shift keys show the word "shift"  right on the key, some even have arrows.  ;D
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: casino on August 10, 2004, 10:18:47 PM
yeah swifty, econ is hard as *&^%.  intermediate micro -- that sucked.

that is why law schools say that they take the undergraduate major into consideration (my ass).  i am sure that they do, slightly.  but you are right, in hindsight -- at least for the application -- the accounting probably would have been better.

at my school, everyone at the business school (undergraduate) had a joke of a time in comparison to us in the liberal arts department, let alone the engineering school. 

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Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: dgatl on August 10, 2004, 10:23:04 PM
Exactly, I don't see how they can help build bridges, or provide support to a nuclear energy plant.  Somebody should have Ginatio chime in, I bet he is offended, unless I am totally wrong about his degree.  He does talk a lot about tech stuff though.  Ginatio?
What do you think about this generic trend of "engineers"?

P.S.  Most shift keys show the word "shift"  right on the key, some even have arrows.  ;D


I feel the need to form a coherent and well punctuated sentence.  Anyway, Swifty, you are correct when you say that "they" cannot help build bridges or even assist me in designing a plant to produce chemicals, etc.  Now, as for the generic trend of engineers, an individual that has taken a significant amount of engineering or science classes but has not actually obtained a degree in engineering or science may still sit for the patent bar.  However, the MIS/DIS/LIS curricula do not require enough science courses such that a graduate can sit for the patent bar.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: swifty on August 11, 2004, 01:40:24 AM
yeah swifty, econ is hard as *&^%.  intermediate micro -- that sucked.

that is why law schools say that they take the undergraduate major into consideration (my ass).  i am sure that they do, slightly.  but you are right, in hindsight -- at least for the application -- the accounting probably would have been better.

at my school, everyone at the business school (undergraduate) had a joke of a time in comparison to us in the liberal arts department, let alone the engineering school. 

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Loved macro, hated micro.  The only thing I learned in micro was that economists will run a business to the ground.  And if you are in business, don't listen to them.

I swear to this day, I still cannot figure out what has the greater affect, the income or the substition, when drawing indifference curves.  Quite frankly, I really don't care.
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: Ginatio on August 11, 2004, 08:49:46 AM
They can call themselves engineers all they want, I really don't care either way. But the fact remains that, on their resume, they do not have a B.S. in Electrical, Chemical, Civil, Mechanical, or other Engineering, and they sure as hell aren't going to get paid as much as bona fide engineering majors.

another point: Most schools now have a computer engineering degree that is separate from a CS/MIS degree. At my school, these guys took all the first two years of general engineering classes that the rest of us engineering majors had to take, and then took classes in computer hardware, architecture, and design the Electrical and Computer Engineering department. There's a difference between: people that have Microsoft certification and can troubleshoot Windows; people that have CS degrees and work at Microsoft as code monkeys; and people that have CE degrees and work at Microsoft designing the software from an engineering/architectural perspective.

The only thing I do hate is when I tell people that I'm an electrical engineering major, and they think I mean that I'm an electrician. I studied f-ing quantum mechanics and high frequency communications technology, not how to wire a house...

Exactly, I don't see how they can help build bridges, or provide support to a nuclear energy plant.  Somebody should have Ginatio chime in, I bet he is offended, unless I am totally wrong about his degree.  He does talk a lot about tech stuff though.  Ginatio?
What do you think about this generic trend of "engineers"?
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: buster on August 11, 2004, 08:52:30 AM
So you can do light switches and that sort of thing? Cool!  :P

They can call themselves engineers all they want, I really don't care either way. But the fact remains that, on their resume, they do not have a B.S. in Electrical, Chemical, Civil, Mechanical, or other Engineering, and they sure as hell aren't going to get paid as much as bona fide engineering majors.

another point: Most schools now have a computer engineering degree that is separate from a CS/MIS degree. At my school, these guys took all the first two years of general engineering classes that the rest of us engineering majors had to take, and then took classes in computer hardware, architecture, and design the Electrical and Computer Engineering department. There's a difference between: people that have Microsoft certification and can troubleshoot Windows; people that have CS degrees and work at Microsoft as code monkeys; and people that have CE degrees and work at Microsoft designing the software from an engineering/architectural perspective.

The only thing I do hate is when I tell people that I'm an electrical engineering major, and they think I mean that I'm an electrician. I studied f-ing quantum mechanics and high frequency communications technology, not how to wire a house...

Exactly, I don't see how they can help build bridges, or provide support to a nuclear energy plant.  Somebody should have Ginatio chime in, I bet he is offended, unless I am totally wrong about his degree.  He does talk a lot about tech stuff though.  Ginatio?
What do you think about this generic trend of "engineers"?
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: Ginatio on August 11, 2004, 09:00:40 AM
of course i can do light switches. that's the first thing they taught us in ECE101. jeez. you must be an MIS major  ;D

So you can do light switches and that sort of thing? Cool!  :P
Title: Re: HELP!!
Post by: swifty on August 12, 2004, 01:21:17 AM
They can call themselves engineers all they want, I really don't care either way. But the fact remains that, on their resume, they do not have a B.S. in Electrical, Chemical, Civil, Mechanical, or other Engineering, and they sure as hell aren't going to get paid as much as bona fide engineering majors.

another point: Most schools now have a computer engineering degree that is separate from a CS/MIS degree. At my school, these guys took all the first two years of general engineering classes that the rest of us engineering majors had to take, and then took classes in computer hardware, architecture, and design the Electrical and Computer Engineering department. There's a difference between: people that have Microsoft certification and can troubleshoot Windows; people that have CS degrees and work at Microsoft as code monkeys; and people that have CE degrees and work at Microsoft designing the software from an engineering/architectural perspective.

The only thing I do hate is when I tell people that I'm an electrical engineering major, and they think I mean that I'm an electrician. I studied f-ing quantum mechanics and high frequency communications technology, not how to wire a house...

Exactly, I don't see how they can help build bridges, or provide support to a nuclear energy plant.  Somebody should have Ginatio chime in, I bet he is offended, unless I am totally wrong about his degree.  He does talk a lot about tech stuff though.  Ginatio?
What do you think about this generic trend of "engineers"?

Your future kids will still think you drive a train, mostly because you will tell them that when asked "Daddy where do you go everyday?"   ;D  It's just such a grat answer to tell a child.