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Title: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on April 14, 2006, 10:42:56 AM
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Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 14, 2006, 10:51:47 AM
you can look forward to my legendary parties next year. . .i plan to throw many of them to work off all that 1L stress. and if you think the prices of housing is low, wait til you see the price of a good meal, a stiff drink, and a night at a show.

and i like the morally superior thing.  ;) i think i'm gonna start using that one.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: kingralph on April 14, 2006, 10:53:10 AM
Unless I get off the waitlist at Texas, I will be there next year.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Towlie on April 14, 2006, 10:55:23 AM
I'm insanely jelous of your rent. Congrats again!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: prestigesq on April 14, 2006, 10:56:30 AM
I hear they expect a flood of applicants next hurricane season cycle.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 14, 2006, 11:19:35 AM
We are morally superior and better looking!  Whenís the first party.
Iím looking for a place uptown.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 14, 2006, 11:36:32 AM
Good crop to pick from.  When is everyone moving there?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 14, 2006, 11:39:15 AM
Yea, Iím quitting in about a month, already gave my notice, and will be traveling to Chicago for two weeks and then around Spain for two weeks
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Towlie on April 14, 2006, 11:39:45 AM
What?!? Towlie returned just for the Tulane thread?? I am speechless...!

Actually, I've been back. My car broke down about a week ago and this was the way I cured my boredom. Now that my car is fixed, I'm still addicted.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 14, 2006, 12:56:59 PM
moving down July 1.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 14, 2006, 01:42:09 PM
moving down July 1.
What part of town are you looking in?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bloodbath on April 14, 2006, 05:18:21 PM
I will be joining you guys as a classmate, sent in my deposit a few days ago. I'm looking to move to NOLA either at the beginning of June or July, whenever I can get a lease started, really. I'm hoping to rent a house somewhere in the uptown/garden district area within walking distance to campus. I'm going to go back over there within the next month or so to pick a place out.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 14, 2006, 05:28:55 PM
glad you'll be joining us!

looking either in the uptown/garden district area around tulane, or near magazine street, around the napolean st. area-- basically magazine and the numbered streets (1st, 3rd, you get it). i love the magazine street area because it has a lot of bars and restaurants where older undergrads, grad students and young "professional" (or just young and cool) people hang out. and rents are much cheaper, and i think the houses are nicer. on the other hand, it is a drive away from campus, so that could get to be a hassle.

Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 14, 2006, 11:36:26 PM
It's between SMU and Tulane for me; still thinking about it.  :-\ I loved Tulane and New Orleans when I visited. The best beer I have ever had in my life was poured on Bourbon Street.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 15, 2006, 12:34:54 PM
bonkers-- i think you should live in the quarter because then there will be at least one person (you) who goes to class less than i do.

ever-- don't underestimate the consistent good times in new orleans.

i'm going househunting this coming week. i'll post about the various areas and what you can get for the money, and i'll send y'all the links for any realtors that were particularly helpful.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 15, 2006, 01:21:40 PM
so am i, actually. . .but i'm going to try and stop that because i've heard it's absolutely pointless to go to blackletter classes.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: imago on April 15, 2006, 01:39:56 PM
I've sent my $300 and will be attending, barring a miraculous wait-list-acceptance from W&L.

I was down for a Mardi Gras a few months ago and had a blast with some current TLS students.  New Orleans has soul like you wouldn't believe. 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: jellomello on April 15, 2006, 05:39:13 PM
Bonkers,

You are so pro-Tulane it makes me wonder if the moral thing is your only motivation? How much are they paying you? Do you believe that NOLA will be as lively a city as it once was with its population reduced so drastically.

Is Tulane known to be a big party school? Would a law student who is not interested in much drinking and partying be happy at TLS?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: monet on April 15, 2006, 06:17:37 PM
I am going! I definately want to live within walking distance since I haven't biked in years and probably won't be bringing a car.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: jellomello on April 15, 2006, 06:33:32 PM
I'm not sure that the school will remain a good place to study international law as NOLA is no longer attractive to foreign lawyers pursuing LLMs and to the top candidates for teaching positions. Many now are choosing more progressive schools rather than traditional ones like Tulane.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 16, 2006, 02:38:07 PM
awesome, monet and imago.
 ;D
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: toinore on April 17, 2006, 06:41:34 PM
I am visiting Tulane at the end of April (couldn't get there before then).  So far, I am leaning towards it because of the environmental law programs and the scholarship they offered me.  Anyone know what the curve is like there? 

Pretty far away from my native CA though.....
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 17, 2006, 08:22:53 PM
It is a B Curve:

In any course with 21 or more JD students, except for the clinics and the clinic seminars, the professor shall award no less than 60% and no more than 65% grades of B and above, and no more than 75% grades of B- and above to those JD students.

If I remember rightly they have an environmental law clinic that sounded down right awesome.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: doubletree on April 17, 2006, 10:51:21 PM
I've heard many disturbing stories about the future of Tulane. There are good environmental law programs at other schools so do take this decision seriously.

Also, is it true that Tulane students are not permitted to visit at other law schools?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 17, 2006, 11:57:27 PM
I've heard many disturbing stories about the future of Tulane. There are good environmental law programs at other schools so do take this decision seriously.

Also, is it true that Tulane students are not permitted to visit at other law schools?


I haven't heard that, but it might be true. Call and ask if that is an issue and you are considering the school.

Honestly, the school will be fine as long as people don't freak out. There is nothing wrong with the faculty or the campus. They lost four professors this semester, but they are looking for replacements which are the same quality if not better. They didn't touch the endowment in doing repairs, nor did they lower their admissions standards. The entering class is going to be smaller this cycle which means more hands on focus from the teachers. The city itself is iffy, but there is enough money in the area around the school that people will remain tied there. New Orleans will remain a major port because it simply has to be. That would suggest that their maritime programs should be fine. There is a big focus shift at Tulane towards disaster relief AND they are maintaining the current course selection which is already large; over 200 options after the first year. The clinics are great; the quality and variety of the cases they will take can only increase. Same teachers, same library, same alumni, same journals, and same students.


Think of the clinics this way:

Environmental Law: You just lost a city and now you have to clean up the toxic waste and rebuild it cleanly. That should be an activistís wet dream.

Child advocacy: They have the unique problem of having to track down kids and figure out how to help them when they are now in different states. The opportunity to learn about inner state law and to help people is there.

Criminal Defense, Domestic Violence, Public Law, all of them are going to have issues which arise from the disaster.

The dean has the right outlook: the school can find opportunity in disaster and they will as long as people donít abandon everything. There is no reason to dump on the school other than baseless pessimism.



Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bamabanana on April 18, 2006, 12:18:04 AM
The problems you refer to are real and it will take more than experimenting law students to solve them. Moreover, if the conditions are so bad that students are confined to the upperclass univ. area suburbs, isn't that a rather bland experience to have during law school?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 18, 2006, 07:27:29 AM
The students aren't confined to "upperclass university area suburbs," actually the areas that got badly damaged were mostly areas of low-income tract homes where I don't think too many students were gravitating towards in their daily lives anyway.

One thing I am finding on this thread is that people who have not visited tend to be the most alarmist. Maybe you should visit and see for yourself. A lot of people don't understand New Orleans and how a lot of people want to see it come back. It is not just any city. Even the French love New Orleans, and everyone knows they hate America.

Yea and they are all newbies.  Maybe they got waitlisted and are trying to convince someone not to send in their deposit. 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bloodbath on April 18, 2006, 07:50:01 AM
I've heard many disturbing stories about the future of Tulane. There are good environmental law programs at other schools so do take this decision seriously.

Also, is it true that Tulane students are not permitted to visit at other law schools?

If you've heard so many "disturing stories" and would never consider the school, why do you care so much about whether they allow students to visit? This cat probably is on the waitlist.

Seriously, why so much hating on Tulane recently?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: fmooy on April 18, 2006, 07:55:48 AM
Well, I just sent in my seat deposit, so I will be seeing you all sometime in late July. I have to agree with Bonkers, there doesn't seem to be any reason for alarm. I haven't visited myself, but given the number of students that returned who didn't have to (i.e. could have transfered to other schools) I feel comfortable going to Tulane. I am really excited about the joint JD / MPH degree at Tulane. It turns out that Tulane's renewal plan is providing some interesting opportunities for incoming law students. The previous MA in International Development is being combined into a new program within the school of public health to form a new International Health and Development degree. The degree will have several different areas of specialization: Emergency and Disaster Management, War as a Public Health Consern, International Health Policy, etc. This will be one of the only programs of its kind in the U.S. On the topic of Housing, is anyone considering buying a condo or something? I would like to, but I don't want to be too far from campus. If anyone knows anything about the real estate market near Tulane, I would appreciate input. Obviously the area directly adjacent to the University will be very expensive, but there must be some neighborhoods within biking distance where prices are reasonable.

Go Green Wave!  
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 18, 2006, 08:18:35 AM
The thing about NOLA is that the neighborhoods can be deceptive.  There are ghettos right next to the million dollar houses on St. Charles.  Uptown, the warehouse and garden districts are good. If you like the burbs Algiers and Metairie are close.  Some people like Slidell, but it is kinda far.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: imago on April 18, 2006, 02:37:25 PM
Congratulations to everyone on their Tulane acceptances/decisions.

I, however, am one of the unfortunate 100 people who was waitlisted. Can anyone tell me when Tulane's first seat deposit is/was due?

Postmarked by 4/15.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 18, 2006, 02:58:28 PM
Has any one started looking for apartments?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: ladymuscadet on April 18, 2006, 03:23:48 PM
Sent in the full $1000 seat deposit, and am officially TLS Class of 2009!

I can't help but roll my eyes at some of the negative comments from people who clearly do not know anything about New Orleans. "Upperclass university suburbs"??? I'm sorry, where are these? Because I've lived here for years and the closest suburbs are a good 20 minute drive from the university. And the area around the university campus isn't upperclass and bland. Like the rest of the city, it is completely checkerboard--upper and lower class neighborhoods side by side, and New Orleans couldn't be bland if it tried. Let's not forget that the French Quarter is unscathed.

Bonkers--one of my close friends who is also going to attend TLS this fall is going to live with her boyfriend on the West Bank. The two of you are much braver than I when it comes to that commute but your rent is a steal!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bloodbath on April 18, 2006, 03:38:45 PM
RE: working out...anyone get a chance to check out the reily center? is it decent? Indoor pool, track, nice(relatively new) free weights/hammer strength machines and elipticals/treadmills? Or anyone have a good private gym to recco? I'm an early riser and plan on doing a 5:00am or so daily workout as well bonkers, maybe we could be workout buddies :)
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on April 18, 2006, 03:41:19 PM
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Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 18, 2006, 05:29:24 PM
ladymuscadet - Did you go to the March 17th student day? Your avatar looks very familiar.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bamabanana on April 18, 2006, 10:44:54 PM
No need to feel offended or to be defensive. I am merely saying that there are serious concerns about the future of NOLA and Tulane. I am deciding between UCLA and Tulane. I like the school but am uncertain about its future strength.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 18, 2006, 10:50:49 PM
I'm not sure why you would worry about the school itself - I can see being worried about the city.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bamabanana on April 19, 2006, 12:25:17 AM
The future of the two are strongly intertwined. The decline of one will inevitably lead to the decline of the other.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: fmooy on April 19, 2006, 07:56:14 AM
To all the kill-joys on this thread who are not even considering attending Tulane (halfie, I am looking in your direction ;)): Tulane is the 12th oldest law school in the country, it has existed for over 110 years and survived at least 2 other hurricanes of equal destructive power. Their endowment may not be as large as Harvard's, but neither is their student body. Additionally, despite over $200 million in damage Tulane's endowment reamins fully intact (thats what insurance is for). As for the faculty cuts, they appear to be more politically than finacially motivated. Like it or not, Katrina provided a good pretext for the school's administration to make some long awaited changes that would have been impossible for them to make without some kind of scapegoat. I am not saying that Katrina has not hurt the University, but its not on the verge of collapse. For those planning to attend Tulane, I would like to hear your thoughts on the University's renewal plan.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: legallydrunk on April 19, 2006, 11:27:30 AM
I lived in New Orleans for 22 years and that was the one and only time we were hit with a hurricane. I went to Tulane for undergrad to play baseball and absolutely loved it. I just couldn't swing that type of cash to go to law school. If anyone on here needs advice on New Orleans or a place to stay (my mom is a real estate agent in the area) please let me know.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 19, 2006, 11:59:56 AM
I lived in New Orleans for 22 years and that was the one and only time we were hit with a hurricane. I went to Tulane for undergrad to play baseball and absolutely loved it. I just couldn't swing that type of cash to go to law school. If anyone on here needs advice on New Orleans or a place to stay (my mom is a real estate agent in the area) please let me know.

Love that Avatar.

What are the housing markets like there? Say if a group of friends wanted to somehow buy a slightly (slightly) damaged home, live there, fix it up and sell it when they leave, could they expect a solid return on that? (Assuming no storm/levee failure) Just asking.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: legallydrunk on April 19, 2006, 12:17:52 PM
It is a great time to buy a house there. My dad just bought a house for almost 1/2 price in a great neighborhood. If you can get the scratch together, you may make enough money to pay for most of your legal education when you sell it. Contrary to what people think, the market right now is great for real estate. Lots of people coming and going. The population is starting to go up again also. I bought a duplex when I was a soph at Tulane, used the rent from my friends to pay the note and all of my expenses and then sold it 3 years later at a $95,000 profit (the only thing I did to improve the property was to put universal heating and air and I discounted that from my profit of course). There are plenty of nice houses you can buy and rent out.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: fmooy on April 19, 2006, 12:29:05 PM
I started at Tulane this fall.  Then I got run off by a little hurricane that y'all might remember, so I may have a different perspective than you.

Trust me, I know it's a good school.  I'm not saying people shouldn't go there.  But the school did take a huge financial hit (they lost a ton of revenue and still had to pay everybody).  The restructuring was in some ways overdue, but others (cutting entire departments because they were non-elite rather than trying to improve them?) were financially forced.  I'm curious, which Cat 3 hurricanes (and when) did it survive before Katrina?  Because after the levees failed so spectacularly this time around, there's no way the city stands up to a major hurricane (or possibly any hurricane at all?) this fall if it's unlucky enough to get hit again.  In case you hadn't heard, the "fix the levees" plan isn't going along that well.  Look, if the city doesn't get hit by hurricanes, yeah, everything will be fine.  If it does... well to start with, forced exile and cancelled semesters are no fun... but beyond that...

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a kill-joy.  It's a good school, and on other threads I've actually advised people to go to Tulane over some of their other options, but I think it's important to go into this with your eyes wide open and recognize that there is a risk attached to going there.

Of course there is risk. That is true anywhere you go. I'm not worried about another Hurricane nor do I think anyone else should be. The historical information you asked for is below. While all the stated events occured after the founding of Tulane University (1835), the first event predates the law school by about 10 yrs. All the information came from the NOAA website. I only included storms that were described as having caused significant flooding or had wind speeds > 110 mph. Personally, I like the odds these data present. On average a hurricane that causes major distruction in the greater New Orleans area occurs about every 31 yrs; the shortest interval between such events is 13 yrs. IMHO Tulane will be fine for at least the next 3 yrs, but as you point out: anything could happen.

  October 6-7, 1837: Racer's Storm hit Matamoros, Mexico before recurving northeast and striking Louisiana coast just east of Cameron; moved east across Gulf coast before heading across North Carolina and then out into the Atlantic. Storm caused a surge of 8 feet of water above high tide on Lake Pontchartrain. New Orleans experienced a "gale" on the 5th and 6th, destroying chimneys, awnings, and many area roofs. The City Exchange on Lewis Street, which was under construction at the time, suffered much damage. The original wooden Bayou St. John lighthouse, the first built by the U.S. Government outside the original 13 colonies, was swept into obscurity. All wharves along the Mississippi coast were washed away with the tide. The storm caused widespread flooding and considerable damage to shipping; all boats, including 4 steamboats, perished in the storm.Lower portions of New Orleans were submerged. Many of the buildings were damaged or carried away by the tide. Crops were seriously damaged along both sides of the Mississippi, particularly sugarcane and cotton. Six lives were lost.

   June 2-3rd, 1871: A tropical cyclone that struck Galveston also made an impact on Louisiana. New Orleans was flooded, giving the appearance of a "submerged city" after the storm.

   August 18-20th, 1888. This hurricane was considered the "severest and most extensive" to hit Louisiana since the Racer's Storm of 1837. It affected much of northern Gulf coast. In New Orleans, all electric light, telegraph, and phone wires went down that Sunday night. By Monday morning, the storm was at its height. Ninety mile an hour winds rampaged through the city. Almost the entire city was submerged.

   August 14th, 1901: Hurricane forms northeast of Puerto Rico and moves west through Southern Florida and northwest through the Gulf of Mexico before hitting Grand Isle on the 14th. The 5-min average winds reached 56 m.p.h. at Port Eads before the anemometer blew away.River stages at New Orleans rose to a level of 7 feet during the storm, producing much flooding. Levee breaks around New Orleans flooded the city. Buras reported 4 feet of water in town. The only building not destroyed at Port Eads was the lighthouse! Total Louisiana damages exceeded $1 million. Ten lives were lost. 

   September 19th, 1947: Hurricane force winds first reached the Mississippi and Louisiana shores at 6 a.m. and New Orleans at 8 a.m.. Gusts to 125 m.p.h. were estimated at Moisant International Airport  (now Louis Armstrong International) (highest gust measured was 112 m.p.h.) and the pressure fell to 28.57". The map to the left shows the storm making landfall at 6:30 a.m. CST on on the 19th. Hurricane force winds reached as far inland as Melville by 4 p.m.. A fifteen foot storm surge overcame the Bay St. Louis seawall. Ostrica saw an 11.5 foot surge and Shell Beach experienced an 11.2 foot storm surge. Water was 6 feet deep in Jefferson Parish. The air fields at Moisant were under 2 feet of water, closing the airport during its second year of operation. This storm demonstrated the dire need for tidal protection levees for New Orleans. Much of the city was flooded, and $100 million in damage was produced. The storm claimed 51 victims, 12 in Louisiana.

   September 9-10th, 1965 (Betsy): Hurricane Betsy, moving unusually fast through the Gulf at forward speeds of 22 mph, came ashore Grand Isle as a major hurricane. Winds gusted to 125 mph and the pressure fell to 28.75" at New Orleans. The sea level pressure there dropped to 28.00" at Grand Isle and Houma. Port Eads gauged winds to 136 mph. A 10 foot storm surge was produced causing New Orleans its worst flooding in decades... but they were lucky compared to Grand Isle, which saw a 15.7 foot surge on its northern coast and wind gusts to 160 m.p.h.. Wind gusting to 100 mph covered Southeast Louisiana. Winds of hurricane force spread as far west as Lafayette and as far inland as St. Landry parish. Even Alexandria and Monroe saw winds in excess of 60 mph.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: legallydrunk on April 19, 2006, 01:07:45 PM
fmooy- great post. My entire family was living in New Orleans at the time of Katrina, and they are completely unfazed by the thought of another hurricane. There are always going to be "threats" but the statistics that you presented pointed to the fact that it is extremely unlikely that another hurricane will even come close to doing what Katrina did. You, and the rest of the admitted class of Tulane Law, should be concerned about a hurricane but it shouldn't keep you from going there. The cuts to the different programs were unfortunate (my family has an endowed scholarship in the now defunct engineering department, and I am a 5th generation Tulane Graduate), but these cuts will be temporary as the Tulane community (alumni especially) is doing the best they can to raise the funds needed to operate at an exemplary level once more.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 19, 2006, 04:17:47 PM
fmooy - Very interesting. Thanks for that info.

legallydrunk - Also very interesting. That was my plan with rent paying the note, but I am uneasy about shouldering that amount of debt with or without co-signers. What areas would I want to look at around the school and what should I be cautious about when it comes to houses? I have heard the ground floors can flood in heavy rain if the foundations are set low.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: legallydrunk on April 19, 2006, 06:15:22 PM
I would go about 1/2 mile to a mile off campus. My house was on Jefferson Ave on the other side of Claiborne from the school, so it was about 3/4 of a mile away. The houses are built off the ground a little more around that area and it works great. I can send you some MLS listings if you email me @ kcomard@uark.edu
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bamabanana on April 19, 2006, 10:48:32 PM
It's not additional hurricanes that worry me. The city's economy is devastated, its population depleted. In is unlikely that NOLA will ever be a major city. Regardless of endowment, the city's condition will affect the school and the quality of life for law students. Private, successful local law firms are sparse compared to CA, NY etc.... and the school's curriculum is too traditional even after its renewal/survival plan.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bamabanana on April 19, 2006, 11:59:50 PM
I don't want to see the school go under in the next three years or five or ten years. After all how prestigeous is a Tulane law degree if the school goes bankrupt even fifteen years from now.

My intention is not to be negative. People are planning to spend their valuable money and time for three years and most have other choices. It is only fair that we should have a comprehensive discussion about the pros and cons.

Bonkers, if you have already decided, I wish you all the success.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 20, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
I don't want to see the school go under in the next three years or five or ten years. After all how prestigeous is a Tulane law degree if the school goes bankrupt even fifteen years from now.

My intention is not to be negative. People are planning to spend their valuable money and time for three years and most have other choices. It is only fair that we should have a comprehensive discussion about the pros and cons.

Bonkers, if you have already decided, I wish you all the success.

It wonít, so go spread you hate some where else
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on April 20, 2006, 11:28:45 AM

I think it's rather safe to say that the people who have returned to New Orleans post-Katrina (and those that are applying to and subsequently attending Tulane, Loyola, etc) WANT to be there.

When visiting the city a few weeks ago, the passion that I associate with New Orleans and her people was still there.  It's just something that has to be "felt" to be understood.

Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bamabanana on April 20, 2006, 11:57:10 AM
Very intolerant, overly sensitive, downright autocratic.

Bonkers, your point about the survival of American cities is a good one (especially the SF example). However, a school of thought has existed for some time now that insists that the geophysical characteristics of NOLA make its long-term survivability infeasible (i.e. 20ft below sea level, located between a lake and an expanding river, and prone to tropical storms). The govt's reaction so far seems to support that school of thought.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on April 21, 2006, 11:53:47 AM
But you know when you're here, you see all of the businesses that are open and people repairing and improving their homes, and it's pretty hard to envision all of those people just walking away from everything.

Listen, New Orleans right now is like post-Civil War Atlanta.  There's a construction boom.  There are more jobs than ever, paying better wages.  Citizens are newly interested in reforming city government.  There's an influx of government money to support rebuilding the aging infrastructure.   The population is down, but the people who didn't come back are the ones without a lot invested in rebuilding.  Mark my words - when the dust settles, New Orleans will be far better off than it was before.  Smaller perhaps, but with a better quality of life.

As far as law jobs go, if you're interested in insurance, environmental, or criminal law, there's enough work here to employ anyone who shows up.  Everybody is suing everybody else.  Insurance companies, contractors, the city, the Corps of Engineers.  It's a litigator's dream.  I suspect Tulane's law clinic will be doing the lion's share of clearing the backed up criminal courts.  Students will have much more access to actually participate in cases, not just fetch coffee and do research.

The biggest problem right now with buying property is getting insurance.  The insurance companies are dropping like flies and the ones that are staying are jacking up the rates beyond belief.  Eventually the state is going to have to step in but right now it's very hard to get a mortgage because nobody will write new insurance policies.

LegallyDrunk- I live on Jefferson between Claiborne and Freret.  Once you cross Claiborne, the houses do tend to be raised higher, but then the area floods worse too.  In general, people looking at housing should check the flood maps or the city's flood elevation levels and make sure wherever you are moving is above the flood level.  I.e., if the water on that block was 3 feet, look for a place elevated 4 feet.   But even that's only if you feel very cautious.   It's not likely that another flood of this magnitude will occur.  And really, if you're a student living in a rented apartment with second-hand furniture, you don't have that much to lose anyway.  Keep your electronics off the floor, and your fine.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 21, 2006, 12:11:35 PM
I just signed a lease a block and a half from campus on a GREAT property that is also a good deal, compared to all the other properties i looked at/researched. The house is half a double shotgun w/ living room, dining room, kitchen, w/d, two bedrooms and a study, and a backyard and front portch for 1100. i absolutely adore the house and really feel lucky to have gotten it. !!!!

here's my summary of househunting in nola. (i looked for the past week for me and for my sister). there are a lot of overpriced houses right now because there really is a housing shortage, particularly close to campus. on the other hand, there are also landlords who are trying to keep rents relatively reasonable, and you can get a great deal w/ the right amount of research and luck. two bedrooms are much more readily available than three bedrooms, and three bedroom prices have been rising to the point that they no longer really save joint tenants any money. i personally had an excellent experience w/ latter and blum realty (on maple st.) and a terrible experience w/ riverlake properties (i personally would not recommend them. i witnessed a landlord tenant fight, and properties in serious disrepair).

also, if you are willing to live in an area w/ more storm damage in the surrounding area, you can get a house (that has been repaired completely since the hurricane) for roughly one and half to two times the size of mine for similar rent. however, that means you'll have a serious walk/drive to the nearest store and all of your neighbors won't have returned just yet. . .(call "go mango" neighborhood restoration 504-236-5527 if you are interested in property on freret st. about 15 min. walk from the law school in a relatively more damaged neighborhood. i saw two nice and HUGE apartment there for a more than reasonable rent). latter and blum was helping several out of staters find houses, so if you can't be in the city that might be one way to go.

i had been interested in living in the magazine area, but did not see a single listing for a house in that area, nor did any of the agents i spoke w/ have available houses in that area.

and, in other great news, i talked to a graduating tulane ls student and he said, verbatim, "the last three years have been the absolute best. if i could live them all over again, i would."  ;D
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on April 21, 2006, 01:00:52 PM

nolalove,

thanks for the great post; much appreciated.  sad to know that the magazine area won't be the easiest to get into, but i guess it's good to realize that now.  does the market seem to be drying up pretty quickly, or do you think there will still be decent options available in june?

thanks again!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on April 21, 2006, 04:01:45 PM
Steering this thread back to its titular origins...

I'm in at Tulane! Woo-Hoo! I got the e-mail yesterday, the turnaround -my app was sent April 5- was spectacular.

Background: I'm what they call a non-traditional applicant (I'll turn 40 first week of December). I took the February 2005 LSAT and scored 168. I retook in October 2005 but cancelled my score.

The real kicker: I don't have an undergraduate degree. There's a whole history behind that fact I won't bore anybody with, but I included a fairly detailed addendum with all my applications explaining why, and why I thought I merited consideration under the ABA 502(b) rule.

So, this cycle I decided to respond to every school that sent a fee waiver, just to see if any would bite. Most didn't, no surprise, but I got accepted at Hofstra and Ave Maria, and wait-listed at Illinois (priority), W&L, and Loyola-Chicago.

I used to post on this site, but cancelled my account a while ago. Had to pop back in to share the news about Tulane.

Good luck to everybody making their decisions.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bamabanana on April 21, 2006, 05:54:20 PM
However, a school of thought has existed for some time now that insists that the geophysical characteristics of NOLA make its long-term survivability infeasible (i.e. 20ft below sea level, located between a lake and an expanding river, and prone to tropical storms).

New Orleans is at varying elevations, as was obvious from Katrina. Parts of it flooded to something like 10+ feet, other parts didn't flood at all.

If you are saying that New Orleans should not survive, you must feel the same way about all of Southeastern Louisiana, much of which is closer to the Gulf of Mexico than New Orleans, is that what you're saying?

Last time I checked, there was also a school of thought that said by allowing some of the flooded areas to return to wetlands it would provide a better barrier against future hurricanes. Is that option no longer on the table? Maybe we should just nuke New Orleans so you don't have to worry about people living there against your will.

Now now Bonkers, you seem too intelligent to lose your cool on this issue. Yes there are minor variations in elevation but it is generally a flat region, most of it part of a flood plain. Look at insurance company behaviour to evaluate the level of concern. They would love to take people's premium payments if they were not so concerned about the flooding potential.

Should we nuke NOLA? Certainly not and please don't even suggest it as members of the Bush Admin might be tempted. NOLA may not disappar. The ghost town scenario, it if occurs would take centuries. However, it will be a much smaller city, less international, less a center of big business and investment, perhaps a charming tourist town, but not too cosmopolitan. Tulane is downsizing to reflect this reality. What will a smaller NOLA and a smaller Tulane mean for the future of the school's prestige and ability to attract the best faculty? I'm not sure.

Few current students would say that their time at Tulane was negative, although some are starting to vent their frustrations. Again, people are making important financial and educational decisions that will impact the rest of their lives. We need to expose all sides of the story. I do not intend to have others decide based on my wishes rather, as the title of this site indicates, to have a discussion.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bethie204 on April 21, 2006, 08:37:27 PM
In all fairness, bamabanana, I think you're really underestimating the people who have decided to attend Tulane.  When I first applied, I did enough research to realize what I was getting myself into.  I know about the levee situation, local politics, population, housing problems, etc.  I've considered what effect the problems in New Orleans will have upon Tulane. I firmly believe that every person who is attending in the fall has taken these issues into account.  For whatever reason, you seem deadset on warning people about the negative aspects of Tulane/NOLA as if they have no clue.  We do!  Can this thread get back to what it was intended to do: share much needed info about Tulane with those who have decided to attend? Please?  Oh yeah, congrats withj!!  :)
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bamabanana on April 21, 2006, 09:21:37 PM
In all fairness, bamabanana, I think you're really underestimating the people who have decided to attend Tulane.  When I first applied, I did enough research to realize what I was getting myself into.  I know about the levee situation, local politics, population, housing problems, etc.  I've considered what effect the problems in New Orleans will have upon Tulane. I firmly believe that every person who is attending in the fall has taken these issues into account.  For whatever reason, you seem deadset on warning people about the negative aspects of Tulane/NOLA as if they have no clue.  We do!  Can this thread get back to what it was intended to do: share much needed info about Tulane with those who have decided to attend? Please?  Oh yeah, congrats withj!!  :)

Bethie204,

This is the time when many have narrowed their selections to two or three schools. Some have done extensive research on Tulane and NOLA. Others are still seeking information and advice. This is a great place to share information for decided people and to address concerns abbout the school. There's room for everyone. Let's not censor.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 22, 2006, 12:41:33 AM

Background: I'm what they call a non-traditional applicant (I'll turn 40 first week of December). I took the February 2005 LSAT and scored 168. I retook in October 2005 but cancelled my score.

The real kicker: I don't have an undergraduate degree. There's a whole history behind that fact I won't bore anybody with, but I included a fairly detailed addendum with all my applications explaining why, and why I thought I merited consideration under the ABA 502(b) rule.



No no no. That's pretty impressive and I want to hear this story if you feel like telling it. Also, a 168 is pretty sweet, why did you decide to retake and then cancel as well?

Either way: Way to go! Congrats! Are you going to attend?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on April 22, 2006, 01:07:24 PM
Thanks. I wanted this to be about me a little longer.  ;)

I don't want to get too specific, but it has to do with growing up poor, being raised by a single mom with 5 kids, working full-time since age 16, living on my own since 18, doing well in JuCo (3.61 GPA) when I was able to go, etc.

I retook because I was sure I could crack 170 based on practice tests. I cancelled because I didn't have the level of confidence about my performance that I wanted.

My PS and supplemental essays were, according to more than one admissions office, outstanding, and what swayed them to even consider my application. Also, got a great L.O.R. from my boss of the past year.

I'm honestly undecided. I sent in my seat deposit to Hofstra, and would probably attend if I had to leave by tomorrow. I have to see Tulane's financial aid offer, which comes in a few days. I'm still in debt from a long stretch of unemployment (job outsourced to India at the same time the Bay Area labor market was in the toilet), so the financial angle matters a LOT to me. And, I got an honors scholarship at Hofstra, 25K/yr with strings.

Rankings matter to me, but not that much. I just want to get a solid legal education, and I'll do the rest. I know I can get one at any of the schools I've been accepted to.

All the best.

No no no. That's pretty impressive and I want to hear this story if you feel like telling it. Also, a 168 is pretty sweet, why did you decide to retake and then cancel as well?

Either way: Way to go! Congrats! Are you going to attend?

Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: kingralph on April 22, 2006, 02:53:22 PM
I was in New Orleans last weekend and I had a blast. I toured the law school (for the second time) and felt pretty comfortable there. Unless I get off the waitlist at Texas or get more money elsewhere, I will be at Tulane next year.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 22, 2006, 08:49:57 PM

nolalove,

thanks for the great post; much appreciated.  sad to know that the magazine area won't be the easiest to get into, but i guess it's good to realize that now.  does the market seem to be drying up pretty quickly, or do you think there will still be decent options available in june?

thanks again!


It's hard for me to say whether there will still be decent options in june. i can say that the houses that came up to rent near campus didn't even last a week on the market. i guess what it really depends on is whether a lot of people's leases will be ending in june or july, and that i don't know. . .sorry!

My husband is in new orleans right now as an election monitor. he said that in the districts he was working in the elections went smoothly. i'm looking forward to seeing how these elections turn out, and hoping that post-elections politicians can feel comfortable making some of the big decisions that need to be made.

Have any of you decided what kind of work you want to be doing in new orleans when you get there? have you contacted any organizations you want to work for? i just started my search and i'll let you know what cool organizations i find. (my husband works for new schools for new orleans. if you are interested in working on education in new orleans, i'd be happy to give you some contact info/ info about the organization. let me know!).
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 22, 2006, 09:10:46 PM
http://www.nola.com/elections/returns.ssf?all

Election returns coming out. Nagin's ahead. What do y'all think?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 22, 2006, 09:36:35 PM
Wow - way to go. Hope Tulane pulled out all the stops for you then. Keep us posted.


Thanks. I wanted this to be about me a little longer.  ;)

I don't want to get too specific, but it has to do with growing up poor, being raised by a single mom with 5 kids, working full-time since age 16, living on my own since 18, doing well in JuCo (3.61 GPA) when I was able to go, etc.

I retook because I was sure I could crack 170 based on practice tests. I cancelled because I didn't have the level of confidence about my performance that I wanted.

My PS and supplemental essays were, according to more than one admissions office, outstanding, and what swayed them to even consider my application. Also, got a great L.O.R. from my boss of the past year.

I'm honestly undecided. I sent in my seat deposit to Hofstra, and would probably attend if I had to leave by tomorrow. I have to see Tulane's financial aid offer, which comes in a few days. I'm still in debt from a long stretch of unemployment (job outsourced to India at the same time the Bay Area labor market was in the toilet), so the financial angle matters a LOT to me. And, I got an honors scholarship at Hofstra, 25K/yr with strings.

Rankings matter to me, but not that much. I just want to get a solid legal education, and I'll do the rest. I know I can get one at any of the schools I've been accepted to.

All the best.

No no no. That's pretty impressive and I want to hear this story if you feel like telling it. Also, a 168 is pretty sweet, why did you decide to retake and then cancel as well?

Either way: Way to go! Congrats! Are you going to attend?

Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 22, 2006, 09:40:26 PM
http://www.nola.com/elections/returns.ssf?all

Election returns coming out. Nagin's ahead. What do y'all think?

Seems to me that the city is willing to accept more of the same. Though I don't know the Mayor's entire history, I would think that people would want to start over with something fresh. Then again it is only 39%.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 22, 2006, 09:41:54 PM
Wow - way to go. Hope Tulane pulled out all the stops for you then. Keep us posted.


Thanks. I wanted this to be about me a little longer.  ;)

I don't want to get too specific, but it has to do with growing up poor, being raised by a single mom with 5 kids, working full-time since age 16, living on my own since 18, doing well in JuCo (3.61 GPA) when I was able to go, etc.

I retook because I was sure I could crack 170 based on practice tests. I cancelled because I didn't have the level of confidence about my performance that I wanted.

My PS and supplemental essays were, according to more than one admissions office, outstanding, and what swayed them to even consider my application. Also, got a great L.O.R. from my boss of the past year.

I'm honestly undecided. I sent in my seat deposit to Hofstra, and would probably attend if I had to leave by tomorrow. I have to see Tulane's financial aid offer, which comes in a few days. I'm still in debt from a long stretch of unemployment (job outsourced to India at the same time the Bay Area labor market was in the toilet), so the financial angle matters a LOT to me. And, I got an honors scholarship at Hofstra, 25K/yr with strings.

Rankings matter to me, but not that much. I just want to get a solid legal education, and I'll do the rest. I know I can get one at any of the schools I've been accepted to.

All the best.

No no no. That's pretty impressive and I want to hear this story if you feel like telling it. Also, a 168 is pretty sweet, why did you decide to retake and then cancel as well?

Either way: Way to go! Congrats! Are you going to attend?



Sorry for not responding to this sooner. Congrats on your Tulane admission and I am also rooting for a huge tulane scholarship for you!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 22, 2006, 10:29:11 PM
But with the post-storm diaspora tilting voter demographics somewhat toward whites and raising racial sensitivities on both sides, polls indicate and political analysts say that volatile racial allegiances have become pronounced. Nagin's shifting political base and his standing in the polls is a case in point.

"Black voters are coming back to Nagin, not necessarily as a person but as a symbol of a racial regime," said Susan Howell, a pollster and professor at the University of New Orleans. "And in blunt terms, some white voters see this as an opportunity to take back power."

While black and white voter turnout on Saturday is difficult to predict, many here are assuming that the number of black and white voters will be about equal. Before Katrina, about two-thirds of the city's voters were black." washington post

i think it will be a shame if the city votes along strictly racial lines; i think that will say something disappointing about the available candidates. i also think it's a shame that there was not another viable african american candidate besides nagin.

Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: ivywhore on April 22, 2006, 11:04:07 PM
But with the post-storm diaspora tilting voter demographics somewhat toward whites and raising racial sensitivities on both sides, polls indicate and political analysts say that volatile racial allegiances have become pronounced. Nagin's shifting political base and his standing in the polls is a case in point.

"Black voters are coming back to Nagin, not necessarily as a person but as a symbol of a racial regime," said Susan Howell, a pollster and professor at the University of New Orleans. "And in blunt terms, some white voters see this as an opportunity to take back power."

While black and white voter turnout on Saturday is difficult to predict, many here are assuming that the number of black and white voters will be about equal. Before Katrina, about two-thirds of the city's voters were black." washington post

i think it will be a shame if the city votes along strictly racial lines; i think that will say something disappointing about the available candidates. i also think it's a shame that there was not another viable african american candidate besides nagin.



That's clearly a white person talking.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 22, 2006, 11:26:33 PM
yes, true. i'm not quite sure how to respond to your response. i think you might be misinterpreting me, unless your comment was really meant to simply point out that i am white, which, in fact, i am. i have a feeling it was meant to imply something about what i meant. . .

here's the question: what do you think? that's why i post. because i'm interested in hearing other perspectives on things i'm thinking/reading about from other people interested in new orleans and tulane.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 22, 2006, 11:40:50 PM
It is unfortunate that people would vote for or against Nagin simply because he became a symbol for race. That is one thing that I noticed about New Orleans; how people approached race seemed completely different than Oklahoma and Dallas. I could never really get a grasp on it. It seemed to me like race was almost a minor issue; that the city didn't have the same clashes that I see in Dallas. My dad and I could talk very easily with anyone black or white and it felt very smooth, not forced or uneasy. Was there simply a storm brewing underneath?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: ivywhore on April 23, 2006, 12:08:16 AM
It is unfortunate that people would vote for or against Nagin simply because he became a symbol for race. That is one thing that I noticed about New Orleans; how people approached race seemed completely different than Oklahoma and Dallas. I could never really get a grasp on it. It seemed to me like race was almost a minor issue; that the city didn't have the same clashes that I see in Dallas. My dad and I could talk very easily with anyone black or white and it felt very smooth, not forced or uneasy. Was there simply a storm brewing underneath?

The black-white divide is so great (economically and socially) that they haven't even progressed to th point of having tensions over equality.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on April 23, 2006, 01:46:16 PM
I think it's a lot more complicated than race.  National media likes to simplify matters, but the fact is, race in New Orleans is not as easy as black or white.  Prior to Katrina, Nagin had high approval ratings overall, but was criticized by some black civic leaders for not favoring minority businesses enough.   He wasn't considered "black enough" for some people, and the city council and school board pretty much hated him.  He got death threats for not making good on corrupt contracts made by the previous mayor.  He turned a lot of white voters off with the patently offensive "chocolate city" speech, but others remember his performance pre-Katrina and are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

On the other hand, Landrieu, by nature of his family's history, can expect the backing of at least some of the black community.  His daddy, Moon Landrieu, was the mayor in the early seventies and he was responsible for desegregating city goverment and public housing.   Plus, he doesn't have the strikes against his credibility that Nagin does at this point. 

We're white, and I voted for Forman, but my husband voted for Nagin.  I think to paint the election with the broad strokes of white candidate vs black candidate does a disservice to everyone.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: ladymuscadet on April 23, 2006, 02:15:38 PM
I think to paint the election with the broad strokes of white candidate vs black candidate does a disservice to everyone.

Amen.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 23, 2006, 02:31:43 PM
i think that's a really good point. analyzing an issue with only one viewpoint (a racial angle) won't yield a full picture.

That said, it appears that Nagin's supporters were almost entirely black voters:

"Though the runoff pits Nagin against Landrieu, who is white, the result Saturday wasnít necessarily suggestive of an electorate riven along racial lines. While precinct-by-precinct analysis wasnít available late Saturday, tracking polls throughout the campaign showed Landrieu drawing up to 30 percent of black voters and Nagin drawing around 10 percent of his support from white voters." (nola times picayune)

And Landrieu appears to be campaigning based on his racially diverse group of
supporters: "Today in this great American city, African American and white, Hispanic and Vietnamese, almost in equal measure came forward to propel this campaign forward and loudly proclaimed that we in New Orleans will be one people, we will speak with one voice and we will have one future,Ē said Landrieu" (new orleans times picayune)

So, given that there is a significant "crossover vote" (in terms of race), race definitely isn't the sole deciding factor. I really didn't mean to imply that it was. I just think it is one factor, and I was curious how important of a factor people felt that it was. (Excellent point re: Landrieu legacy as well. Easy for us out-of-towners to forget).
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on April 23, 2006, 02:40:59 PM
I just think it's terribly amusing that Landrieu portrays himself as the outsider.  His sister's a U.S. Senator, his father was the mayor, and he's currently the Lieutenant Governor to Blanco, who is even less popular than Nagin. 

But to get back on topic, anyone interested in politics would have a lot of volunteer opportunities here.  I'd be surprised if we don't get the 2008 Democratic Convention.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cheesesteak on April 23, 2006, 09:21:58 PM
I will be joining all of you in August.  Hooray!  I made a dang decision. 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 24, 2006, 02:08:16 PM
I will be joining all of you in August.  Hooray!  I made a dang decision. 

Congrats!! And congrats to everyone else who has gotten in and/or made the decision in the past few days. I was taking a break from LSD...

We all need to do that!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 24, 2006, 09:12:47 PM
cheesesteak! hooray! i'm so glad we'll be seeing you next year at Tulane.

withj-- i just wanted to say i've been thinking more about your "non-traditional" admit, and i think it's so amazing. i hope you come to Tulane.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on April 25, 2006, 11:40:54 AM
cheesesteak! hooray! i'm so glad we'll be seeing you next year at Tulane.

withj-- i just wanted to say i've been thinking more about your "non-traditional" admit, and i think it's so amazing. i hope you come to Tulane.

Yes, that is amazing. It is a little-known fact that you can actually go to law school without a bachelor's degree, in certain circumstances. But I don't think I've seen anyone on LSD do it before.

Thanks, bonkers and nolalove. There's nothing I'd love better than matriculating at Tulane this fall. I've got to see how the financial angle plays out.

Even though it's permissible according to ABA legal education standards, most schools don't want anything to do with it. First of all, the language of the rule is vague and susceptible to widely divergent interpretations: ("if the applicantís experience, ability, and other characteristics clearly show an aptitude for the study of law"). Also, the interest law schools have in upholding a clearly defined, uniformly enforced standard for admission is obvious. And, of course, no school wants to get jacked in the rankings

Still, the exception exists for a reason, namely so that ABA-accredited law schools can provide access to a legal education on a case-by-case basis to individuals who have a good reason for not meeting the education requirement but who are otherwise capable. I had to try and make the case that the circumstances of my life provide a compelling reason for my not obtaining an undergraduate degree, and that I possess the aptitude to succeed in the study of law.

Keeping in mind I was for the most part only applying to schools that sent me a fee waiver or that had free online application (because I didn't expect anything to come of it, and didn't want to throw money away), here's the breakdown of my cycle so far:

Accepted:
Ave Maria (Actually admitted 2005, but deferred a year)
Hofstra
Tulane

Waitlisted:
Illinois U/C (Priority)
Loyola-Chi
Washington & Lee

Denied:
Brooklyn
Cardozo
Case Western
Catholic
Chicago Kent
Indiana
Northwestern

Pending:
Alabama
DePaul
McGeorge
USF
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 25, 2006, 11:48:01 AM
What type of laptops are you guys getting?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on April 25, 2006, 11:51:57 AM
What type of laptops are you guys getting?

Whatever I can scrape together enough dough for. I'll look for a good deal on eBay, or do without for the first few months while waiting for the day-after-Thanksgiving sale at Fry's.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: fmooy on April 25, 2006, 11:56:00 AM
I am deciding between the Averatec 1050 and the Dell Latitude X1. These are both really tiny laptops so they might not be for everyone. I don't really mind the small screen and at < 3.5 lbs (2.5 lbs for the dell) these computers are amazing. I am leaning towards the Averatec right now because of its built in optical drive and slightly better price, but the slightly larger screen on the Dell would be nice.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 25, 2006, 11:57:40 AM
I was thinking about a Dell, not to sure.  I do not know much about computers.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on April 25, 2006, 12:49:35 PM

I'm a Mac guy, personally, so i'll probably just get a cheap Dell so i'm compatible.  Something on the small/light side would be nice; the cheaper the better, too.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 25, 2006, 02:08:35 PM
If you get a Sam's club membership they generally have pretty good deals on HPs and Dells. I think Tulane asked that we not buy PCs until very soon before school because they are working on discount deals with computer manufactures.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 25, 2006, 02:13:10 PM
Cool, did not know that.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 25, 2006, 03:27:55 PM
Good luck
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: fmooy on April 25, 2006, 03:36:57 PM
According to their website, a Mac version of exam soft is in development. However, no word as to when it will be available. I would imagine that it will come out some time this year though. But, even if it is released, there is no assurance that Tulane will purchase it or agree to support its users. It would be nice though, Apple makes nice computers.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cheesesteak on April 25, 2006, 08:04:20 PM
There are many others who agree with yous guys about the Macs in the Tulane forum for admitted students.  Personally I don't get it. 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 25, 2006, 08:10:11 PM
cheesesteak-- babies shouldn't do bucket bongs = hilarious.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cheesesteak on April 25, 2006, 08:14:48 PM
cheesesteak-- babies shouldn't do bucket bongs = hilarious.
Finally someone else got it!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: ivywhore on April 26, 2006, 12:54:24 AM
Damn.  Tulane must be offering you tons of money!  Congratulations. 

cheesesteak-- babies shouldn't do bucket bongs = hilarious.

Why do you say that?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: JamesD on April 26, 2006, 01:00:54 AM
High numbers.  168/3.85... or something like that. I thought I saw her LSN profile...
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 26, 2006, 08:36:11 AM
Thanks! I feel blessed and lucky. My sister lives in New Orleans and I went to undergrad there, so I love the city. Before I really knew anything (such as my LSAT score) I wanted to go to Tulane. After the hurricane, I wanted to go more.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 26, 2006, 08:57:09 AM
. . .although i hardly feel like i stand out. . .available LSNs on people going to Tulane are awesome, plus some really interesting/amazing life experience stuff. seriously, y'all, i'm looking forward to going to school with some smart, interesting and friendly people  ;D   

Also wanted to say one more thing regarding housing: the housing list up on the Tulane law school websites includes houses that aren't listed to the general public yet (the landlords want law students living there, i guess), so the turnover on those is slower. Also my sister just got rented a three bedroom apartment in new orleans by hiring a real estate broker who went to open houses for her and faxed her the lease and credit check. She got a really nice place (at least in the pictures!).
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: legallydrunk on April 26, 2006, 10:33:43 AM
Congrats Nolalove, we need more people like you going to Tulane. I had a long discussion this past weekend with family members about the school and we think that the positive attitude of the students is what will carry the day when it is all said and done. A school is nothing more or less than the people who attend. When I come back to town I am sure I will run into you at Brunos, Fat Harrys, Phillips, or The Red Eye...I will be the guy passed out at the bar.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: JamesD on April 26, 2006, 10:45:46 AM
All you Tulane people seem awesome.  I think that next year's class at Tulane is going to be a great group of kids--- lots of idealists who are going there, not in spite of, but because of the situation in New Orleans. 

I already want to visit....
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bloodbath on April 26, 2006, 02:51:06 PM
I'm booking a trip to find housing/sign a lease for the upcoming year.
Looking for a 2 bedroom in the 1100-1500 range w/yard.
I'll be in town the week of the 15th of May, anyone gonna be around that time of the month and want to meet up with a future classmate? Also, anyone know how many days I should to budget to get a good look around? I'm figuring on staying five to six days...what do you guys think? 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 27, 2006, 09:42:32 AM
I just decided that I'm going to work in New orleans for the summer, so I'll be there starting late May/ early June. Anyone else working in nola for the summer?

re: housing
I'd say 5-6 days is good, if you make some appointments before you arrive and you can start seeing houses right away. It took us two days to sign our lease because they had to run the credit check and we had to get a money order (from an out of town bank). So even if you find a great house on day 4, you'll want some time to sign the lease.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 27, 2006, 09:48:29 AM
Not working but visiting to look for housing.  What type of job did you get?  My last day of real work is tomorrow, but I am thinking about getting a bartending job to tide me over.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 27, 2006, 09:52:05 AM
can't decide btw. getting a normal job (like waitressing) or just adding my summer expenses to my loan "tab" and taking a volunteer position with an organization doing katrina recovery work. leaning towards the second. . .
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 27, 2006, 09:53:28 AM
You could be a roofer and take care of both.   ;D
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on April 27, 2006, 01:33:07 PM
hey guys & gals.

so this isn't the biggest deal, in fact it may seem downright trivial or materialistic to some of you.  but for those of you that are living in new orleans now (or have down so in the past)...how comfortable are you with your "possessions" in NOLA (and in the housing available to law students)? 

i'm not overly concerned with another storm of Katrina's magnitude causing an incredible amount of damage to NOLA again.  but before i pack up and move my life from Boston, i'm just wondering what i should take.  is the typical storm season rather harsh?  is the area around Tulane rather safe?  are the homes for rent in decent condition?

just wondering because i have some rather valuable stuff and will be moving from, well, boston...so i'm debating whether i should rent storage space somewhere, leave irreplacable things with family, etc.  any insight would be, as always, most appreciated.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on April 27, 2006, 02:00:32 PM
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Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on April 27, 2006, 02:19:22 PM
hmm.

Miss Mae's serves $1.00 drinks and is open 24 hours a day; could be the answer to people's rent/alcohol issues.  or, well, could become the cause of said issues.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: JamesD on April 27, 2006, 02:33:35 PM
But its probably the worst bottom-shelf alcohol ever.  God, I would have such a horrible hangover... because its so cheap... and I can drink like a tank.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on April 27, 2006, 02:36:05 PM
true; when i was there i quickly upgraded to the $3.00 grey goose.  but still.  coming from Boston, i was rather impressed.

and since it's open 24 hours a day...people could always just live there.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 27, 2006, 06:12:19 PM
So glad someone brought up miss mae's, a second home =-) and yes you can get call brands for basically nothing, too.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on April 28, 2006, 12:22:39 PM
Received my official acceptance notification from Tulane today.

Dean's Scholarship: $20k for maintaining 3.0.

I have to ante a $300.00 initial seat deposit by second week of May to keep a hand in, and an additional $700.00 by beginning of June.

I never thought I'd get into a school of Tulane's stature. Truth is, I never thought I'd get in to Hofstra since I didn't finish college.

I'll mull my decision later. Right now I'm going to celebrate with a po' boy.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on April 28, 2006, 01:06:23 PM
Congrats...!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on April 28, 2006, 02:29:24 PM
Received my official acceptance notification from Tulane today.

Dean's Scholarship: $20k for maintaining 3.0.

I have to ante a $300.00 initial seat deposit by second week of May to keep a hand in, and an additional $700.00 by beginning of June.

I never thought I'd get into a school of Tulane's stature. Truth is, I never thought I'd get in to Hofstra since I didn't finish college.

I'll mull my decision later. Right now I'm going to celebrate with a po' boy.

Way to go man. I think you should do it.  :)
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cheesesteak on April 28, 2006, 08:32:28 PM
Received my official acceptance notification from Tulane today.

Dean's Scholarship: $20k for maintaining 3.0.

I have to ante a $300.00 initial seat deposit by second week of May to keep a hand in, and an additional $700.00 by beginning of June.

I never thought I'd get into a school of Tulane's stature. Truth is, I never thought I'd get in to Hofstra since I didn't finish college.

I'll mull my decision later. Right now I'm going to celebrate with a po' boy.
Do it.  It sounds like you would make an outstanding member of the class of 2009!  I would sure like to meet you. 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on April 28, 2006, 09:18:27 PM
WRT safety of your stuff - it's fine.  I've lived here 15 years, without having had anything major stolen.  Most housing is raised so it has to be a major, major flood event for homes to flood.  Usually hurricanes are more of an inconvenience than a threat.  Once or twice a year you wind up driving somewhere for the weekend, sit around drinking and watching the news, and go back to find nothing has happened, except maybe some tree limbs down here and there.  Obviously, last year was the exception we'd all feared would happen.

But y'know, barring another event of biblical proportions, there's no reason to think your stuff is in any more danger here than anywhere else.  We wouldn't have all these old houses filled with antiques if major flooding were a regular event.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on April 29, 2006, 09:02:53 AM
withj-- AWESOME. so glad Tulane came through for you. let me say it again-- i hope we see you there in the fall!!
Title: Re: REGGIE BUSH!!!
Post by: nolalove on April 29, 2006, 11:40:07 AM
and the number one reason to be in NOLA next year:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/drafttracker

 ;D
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on April 30, 2006, 01:48:55 PM
Nola (and others) -

thanks for the info y'all...very excited about coming down (and maybe watching reggie do some incredible things in the superdome).

oh, and congrats to the recent acceptance.  hope you'll be down come fall.

have a great lazy sunday...back to my adult beverage.

Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on May 02, 2006, 10:50:40 AM
Has anyone been getting calls/email lately from Tulane profs and students?

Prof. Childress even gave me his home phone number  :o
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on May 02, 2006, 04:04:59 PM
Hey everybody. Just checking back in with the ol' Tulane thread. I'm grateful to everybody for all the encouragement and feedback. I agree with the poster who commented on what a great group the Tulane-bound 1Ls sounds like.

Still undecided, but I sent my $300 initial seat deposit in yesterday. Am leaning toward Tulane. Got dinged off the PWL at UIUC, which narrows my list down to:

W&L and Loyola-Chi: waitlist

Alabama, DePaul, McGeorge and USF: no decision yet

Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 02, 2006, 05:41:06 PM
Jennifer Kott gave me a ring the other day.  We had a lovely conversation.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: monet on May 04, 2006, 12:05:19 AM
somebody called from tulane yesterday too... to see if i had any questions. i was woken up by the phone call and the only thing i could think of to ask was if there is housing. i must've sounded like an idiot.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: monet on May 04, 2006, 01:36:36 PM
i just got into W&L.. thread here: http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,61761.0.html

no idea what i'm going to do. any input will be very much appreciated.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on May 04, 2006, 02:30:10 PM
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Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on May 04, 2006, 03:39:09 PM
They should have recruitment visits during Jazz Fest.  I just saw Bob Dylan eating a po-boy at Franky and Johnny's (http://www.frankyandjohnnys.com/).
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: monet on May 04, 2006, 03:42:26 PM
i just got into W&L.. thread here: http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,61761.0.html

no idea what i'm going to do. any input will be very much appreciated.

PSYCHOANALYSIS: You came on the pro-Tulane, hyper accepted student thread to ask this question. You know we will say Tulane is better. AND IT IS! Do you really want to live in that backwater where W&L is? You want to be told to go to Tulane.

I enjoyed my visit to Tulane and I love New Orleans. Maybe you should visit both schools.


hahaha you are so correct i am laughing out loud. convince meeeee not to be a rankings whore!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on May 05, 2006, 02:11:00 PM
happy cinco de mayo everyone! woohoo! another excuse to go out and drink our adult beverages in the sun shiney weather. . .  ;D

monet-- i agree w/ halfie that the ranking difference is not significant. on your other thread discussion, several people commented on tulane's excellent national rep.

i had a great undergrad experience there, with extremely attentive faculty and no silly university bureaucracy standing in the way of doing whatever i wanted. if you're at all interested in hurricane katrina work, i've been talking and corresponding w/ some current law students, and they are doing AMAZING work, and they have been able to donate a significant amount of time, energy and attention to it.

anyhow, one of the main reasons I chose tulane was because i thought it would be the place where i was the happiest. it was not the highest ranked school i got into, but i truly think that i am going to pursue an equally prestigious career path as i would going to any of the other schools i considered becomes i'm motivated to do so, i'll be involved in great work at tulane, and i'm coming from a nationally recognized school. plus I AM GOING TO HAVE FUN DOING IT!!!!!!

in conclusion, come to tulane  ;D
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on May 05, 2006, 02:19:22 PM
would anyone be interested in doing some katrina relief work for two weeks or so before orientation? i thought it might be a fun way to help out and meet some 1Ls. there are a lot of orgs that took spring breakers who might be able to help us organize a two week volunteer thing.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 05, 2006, 02:23:28 PM
i would LOVE to, but it's totally going to depend on when i can move down...should know in the coming weeks (which may be too late?)...

oh, and happy cinco to you, too!  and, well, everyone else!  hope everyone has a great evening...and remember to have your mint juleps tomorrow during the derby.  my money this year is on, appropriately enough, lawyer ron!  come on, it's fate people.

anyone have any jazz fest stories to share?  if not now, maybe by the end of the weekend?

okay, back to work.  patiently awaiting an adult beverage myself...
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Alamo on May 05, 2006, 02:57:57 PM
i just got into W&L.. thread here: http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,61761.0.html

no idea what i'm going to do. any input will be very much appreciated.

PSYCHOANALYSIS: You came on the pro-Tulane, hyper accepted student thread to ask this question. You know we will say Tulane is better. AND IT IS! Do you really want to live in that backwater where W&L is? You want to be told to go to Tulane.

I enjoyed my visit to Tulane and I love New Orleans. Maybe you should visit both schools.

hahaha you are so correct i am laughing out loud. convince meeeee not to be a rankings whore!

There are some schools where the rankings difference would be real and choosing Tulane at equal money would be a pretty dumb move.  Duke, for example.  Cornell.  Maybe Texas or Vanderbilt.  Washington and Lee is clearly not one of those schools--and so, your choice is actually pretty easy. :D

Tsk tsk.  C'mon Monet, listen to the little angel on your shoulder, not the little devil . . .

(http://www.clarablog.com/thon/04/angeldevil.jpg)

Angel: "You know it will be easier to concentrate on your studies at W&L, it's simply the right thing to do - you're going to law school to learn, aren't you?  And don't listen to Halfie, he's a notoriously irrational W&L hater."

Devil: "C'mon, all work and no play only makes for a dull Monet!  Live a little!  You can drink on the sidewalk here!  Have you ever ordered a strawberry daiquiri TO GO?!?!  Best feeling EVER!"

Just something to think about.  And before you all jump on me, my sister went to Tulane and loved it, so I'm not trying to rain on your parade.  I'm just sick of everyone falling back on the one thing they know about W&L, that it's in a small town.  I will be there and fun will be had, although most likely none that will compete with NoLa on the debauchery scale.  Good luck to ya . . . 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 05, 2006, 03:00:22 PM

now i really want a daiquiri to go...great. 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: monet on May 05, 2006, 03:09:46 PM
i just got into W&L.. thread here: http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,61761.0.html

no idea what i'm going to do. any input will be very much appreciated.

PSYCHOANALYSIS: You came on the pro-Tulane, hyper accepted student thread to ask this question. You know we will say Tulane is better. AND IT IS! Do you really want to live in that backwater where W&L is? You want to be told to go to Tulane.

I enjoyed my visit to Tulane and I love New Orleans. Maybe you should visit both schools.

hahaha you are so correct i am laughing out loud. convince meeeee not to be a rankings whore!

There are some schools where the rankings difference would be real and choosing Tulane at equal money would be a pretty dumb move.  Duke, for example.  Cornell.  Maybe Texas or Vanderbilt.  Washington and Lee is clearly not one of those schools--and so, your choice is actually pretty easy. :D

Tsk tsk.  C'mon Monet, listen to the little angel on your shoulder, not the little devil . . .

(http://www.clarablog.com/thon/04/angeldevil.jpg)

Angel: "You know it will be easier to concentrate on your studies at W&L, it's simply the right thing to do - you're going to law school to learn, aren't you?  And don't listen to Halfie, he's a notoriously irrational W&L hater."

Devil: "C'mon, all work and no play only makes for a dull Monet!  Live a little!  You can drink on the sidewalk here!  Have you ever ordered a strawberry daiquiri TO GO?!?!  Best feeling EVER!"

Just something to think about.  And before you all jump on me, my sister went to Tulane and loved it, so I'm not trying to rain on your parade.  I'm just sick of everyone falling back on the one thing they know about W&L, that it's in a small town.  I will be there and fun will be had, although most likely none that will compete with NoLa on the debauchery scale.  Good luck to ya . . . 

Haha, probably a bad idea mentioning the daiquiri... mmm... mango. Mmm... walking like the drunk man in the middle of traffic at 6pm on Canal street...
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: mead on May 05, 2006, 06:05:30 PM
Don't you guys think that people who post on two or three school threads as 'undecided' are doing it to convince the schools to pay them more? The schools probably can identify them and market their school more (i.e. offer more $$$)?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bean on May 05, 2006, 10:43:05 PM
barring a full ride offer from the one school i'm still unsure about (or a major levee breach this summer), I will be joining you all in the fall.  hell, i've already moved to NOLA & put the decal on my car.  i'd need a hairdryer to remove it.  don't own a hairdryer.

might have to crash in a friend's RV 'til student loans get disbursed (September?) in order to make this happen, but after spending some time with the recovery effort, visiting the campus & surrounding area, and encountering so many friendly, intelligent, chill people- both at the school and on this site- i'm totally psyched.

as for using this board to try to manipulate schools, that sounds kind of far fetched.  it's easy enough to ask them directly for more money and to tell them what other schools you're considering, what offers are on the table and why you think you deserve more.  some say yes, some no.  that simple.  somhow i don't think admissions directors are finding time to frantically scan prelaw discussion boards, thinking, "oh, man, juris1234 is interested in us and another school ranked 3 places higher in this year's US News report... we'd better track down hir IP address, connect it to an ISP, subpoena them to get a phone number, call it and and offer more money."
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on May 06, 2006, 01:23:36 PM
right on, bean!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on May 07, 2006, 02:37:16 AM
anyhow, one of the main reasons I chose tulane was because i thought it would be the place where i was the happiest. it was not the highest ranked school i got into, but i truly think that i am going to pursue an equally prestigious career path as i would going to any of the other schools i considered becomes i'm motivated to do so, i'll be involved in great work at tulane, and i'm coming from a nationally recognized school. plus I AM GOING TO HAVE FUN DOING IT!!!!!!

I feel the exact same!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 10, 2006, 09:28:27 AM

so...has anyone worked on a NOLA/Tulane budget for the year?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on May 10, 2006, 10:14:44 AM
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Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: monet on May 10, 2006, 10:35:16 AM
Tulane's tuition for this Fall is 35k and their COS is 15k (and I am rounding down)... this totals 50k.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 10, 2006, 10:46:17 AM

so we're looking at around 42K for Tulane.  I'll throw in a grand for a new computer, fifty bucks for a 'tulane law' sweatshirt, and another two for my 'tulane law' sticker for the back of my whip.  add in a few more things, and i'm quickly thinking 45K is a reasonable estimation..

now what other things?  700-800 for rent.  a'ight.  how about utilities down there?  200 a month?  food -- 400 a month?  recreation?  another 15K? 

i guess i should just plan on bringing 60 large?  law school really is going to cost mad duckets.  yo.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: monet on May 10, 2006, 11:05:02 AM
42k for tuition? how can that be right
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 10, 2006, 11:23:01 AM
additional fees, insurance, parking, etc.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on May 10, 2006, 11:31:04 AM
additional fees, insurance, parking, etc.

 ??? The cost of attendance should include all of that
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 10, 2006, 11:40:41 AM

okay, so yeah...tuition and mandatory fees total $34,696.00 (according to tulane).

living and book expenses are estimated at $17,300.00 (for 9 months).

total is $51,996.00; so add another three months and other expensese (a computer, moving, etc), and after all is said and done...i'm just bringing 60K.   
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: imago on May 10, 2006, 11:49:40 AM

so we're looking at around 42K for Tulane.  I'll throw in a grand for a new computer, fifty bucks for a 'tulane law' sweatshirt, and another two for my 'tulane law' sticker for the back of my whip.  add in a few more things, and i'm quickly thinking 45K is a reasonable estimation..

now what other things?  700-800 for rent.  a'ight.  how about utilities down there?  200 a month?  food -- 400 a month?  recreation?  another 15K? 

i guess i should just plan on bringing 60 large?  law school really is going to cost mad duckets.  yo.


Holy sh*t that's a lot of money. . .  I've been putting off adding it all up, content to live in ignorance a while longer.

So I got into UGA off the waitlist on Monday. . . $9100 in-state tuition and fees.  Do well enough to do Atlanta BigLaw after 2L, pay cash for my final year, and I'm looking at graduating with less than 40K in debt.

I'd gotten really excited about Tulane and New Orleans, but I don't know if I'm excited enough to take an additional 80K in private loans.

I'm torn.  I really beleive that I'd have a more unique academic and personal experience at TLS.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 10, 2006, 12:18:55 PM

i haven't even heard back from UGA...apparently i'm still being reviewed...maybe it's taking so long because i'm no longer a resident (originally from the 'A' - but went to school/live in Boston).  oh well.

i'm really looking forward to NOLA...new culture, new laws (anyone know the specifics on what constitutes an open-container and what you can and cannot do?), food...etc, etc, etc.  plus, i think it'll give me the most options when i graduate.

but UGA in-state, if you know you want to practice in Georgia, certainly is appealing.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: imago on May 10, 2006, 12:27:53 PM

i haven't even heard back from UGA...apparently i'm still being reviewed...maybe it's taking so long because i'm no longer a resident (originally from the 'A' - but went to school/live in Boston).  oh well.

i'm really looking forward to NOLA...new culture, new laws (anyone know the specifics on what constitutes an open-container and what you can and cannot do?), food...etc, etc, etc.  plus, i think it'll give me the most options when i graduate.

but UGA in-state, if you know you want to practice in Georgia, certainly is appealing.

Yeah, it's a no-brainer from a dollars-and-cents standpoint.  And I'm a native Georgian with deep, multi-generational personal, familial and business ties in Georgia.

But NOLA has a really strong emotional appeal to me.  I've been a regular visitor over the years; I actually met my fiancee at Fat Harry's on the corner of St. Charles and Napoleon on the Friday before Mardi Gras two years ago.  There's something poetic about us returning to New Orleans to help rebuild.  Tulane definitely captures my imagination in a way that UGA does not.

But I think I can find ways to indulge my imagination in other ways with the 80 grand I'll save.  It'll break my heart to tell Tulane 'no thanks.'  Guess I'll decide soon.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bean on May 10, 2006, 08:42:53 PM
Every person at Tulane next year, it seems to me, will be someone who is not just floating through life.

...we'll all be too busy trying to float to safety.

badum dum.

103 days!  Did I do that math right?  Anyone else wanna meet up this summer?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on May 11, 2006, 11:28:58 AM
imago, good luck on your tough decision  :-\

just think of it this way-- you would have been so happy to be given these options at the beginning of the cycle! (does that help at all??? hahah)

Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on May 12, 2006, 01:19:38 AM

But I think I can find ways to indulge my imagination in other ways with the 80 grand I'll save.  It'll break my heart to tell Tulane 'no thanks.'  Guess I'll decide soon.

You and I are in the same boat...  :-\
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 12, 2006, 07:29:27 AM
definitely a tough decision for y'all...no envy here.

on a completely unrelated note, has anyone played the golf course that's across the street from tulane?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: ladymuscadet on May 12, 2006, 11:32:37 AM
definitely a tough decision for y'all...no envy here.

on a completely unrelated note, has anyone played the golf course that's across the street from tulane?

Haven't played the golf course myself but my boyfriend does all the time. He tries to play golf a couple of times a week (usually two, sometimes three) and complains that Audobon is a little pricey for him (but we are poor)--I think it is about $30 a round? There are other cheaper golf courses around; I know that much.

Anyway, if you had any specific questions about the course (since I don't know enough about golf to anticipate what you might want to know) let me know and I'll ask him. It's in good shape post-katrina, btw.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 12, 2006, 12:17:53 PM

$30 for a round?  that's as low as i've found around me...if that's expensive for NOLA, then i'm happy!  glad to know it's in good shape, too.

others you (or your boyfriend) suggest?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on May 17, 2006, 12:53:16 PM
I am moving down by May 26. The first week or so will probably be crazy with getting settled, but over the summer I'd love to have lunch with any future Tulane Law Students.
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Post by: cheesesteak on May 17, 2006, 08:32:51 PM
I would really like to come down and meet some people before classes start and the poo hits the fan.  I don't think I'll be able to come before the 10 of August or so.  But maybe we can do lunch then?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on May 17, 2006, 11:54:32 PM
I won't be getting in to NOLA until early-to-mid August, too. May be just in time for orientation. I have to work right up to the last minute to (hopefully) get my car paid off.

I'm hoping to get my living arrangements settled sooner than that, though. I'd hate to be homeless for the first month of LS. Girfriend and I are planning (maybe our plans are too provisional to merit the word "planning") a trip in July to scout Uptown for inexpensive digs near Tulane.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bean on May 18, 2006, 11:04:19 AM
scout Uptown for inexpensive digs near Tulane.

Depending on your definition of 'inexpensive', it may take a lot of scouting.  Despite what the school claims and existing students talking about their pre-K leases on the admitted students forum, it's hard to find anything truly cheap out here.  There are a few landlords who have places available and haven't jacked their rent by at least 25%, but they're mostly the ones who 'advertise' via word-of-mouth or discreet signs... and they definitely don't seem to be Uptown.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on May 19, 2006, 02:05:51 AM
These posts from the Volokh Conspiracy and TaxProf blogs are months old, but still very encouraging for prospective Tulane 1Ls. If Tulane Law's spearheading of the University's recovery has kept pace with what's described here, it makes me more excited than ever about matriculating in the Fall.

Volokh
http://volokh.com/posts/1139497920.shtml

TaxProf
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2006/02/eason_on_the_im.html

On a side note, one of the posters on Volokh's board refers to poorer pre-Katrina NOLA residents being left behind in the re-building. That sounds like a good opportunity for us public-interest-minded wannabes.
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Post by: joespecial on May 19, 2006, 07:35:36 AM
Those were both interesting... thanks for posting.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Ever on May 21, 2006, 12:21:29 AM
So it was announced that Nagin was re-elected. The vibe I am getting reading other forums is that this is a really bad thing. Anyone who actually lives there/knows the area have anything to say?

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Much like the US after 9/11, any goodwill that people had for the victims of Hurricane Katrina has been spent like a FEMA voucher in a Louis Vuitton store. In their wake they have left crime, ignorance, and a littany of complaints all while living off of what is seemingly a limitless government dole. No, we can no longer help you, go out and get a job.

I now feel that anything that happens to these people after electing this assclown again, they completely deserve. I have zero sympathy for anyone from, living in, or having fled from New Orleans.

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He screwed up bad and looked like a raving dumbass on the news blaming everyone he could but himself. This was all done while busses were drowning in a parking lot because of his lack of action. I don't fully blame him for the piss poor reaction to the hurricane but he has to eat his fair share of the blame and there is plenty to go around. This election however was about race with people coming out of the woodworks to vote for this guy; many of whom were first time voters. I'll leave it at that and you can draw your own conclusions.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on May 21, 2006, 09:53:26 AM
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Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bean on May 21, 2006, 09:02:50 PM
i'm still kind of a newcomer (i arrived the night of the 20-something person "debate"), but the impression i've got is that the whole process was pretty frustrating and horrible for voters.  it seemed like landrieu didn't have much of an actual platform, he was just white and not nagin.  the people (by 5000 votes) picked the known quantity.

the sense i'm getting is that neither side really made any campaign promises that answer the questions most are concerned with here.  neither side said, "elect me and the levees will get fixed faster," or "elect me and your house will be rebuilt faster, because FEMA/insurance money will be more readily available."  it's basically acknowledged that those decisions aren't so dependent on who's mayor... so if it doesn't matter, why not pick the guy who says he's gonna try not to make the same mistakes twice? 

no matter what, i think, city government is going to be sluggish and corrupt.  it has been for generations.  talking to residents and contractors has highlighted this for me.  the idea that a mayoral election should in any way influence sympathy for survivors of this true catastrophe is abhorrent.  the Gulf Coast still needs a lot of help, and with the exception of a few volunteer organizations and caring communities, it's not coming nearly quick enough. public interest is starting to wane.  this is the moment to stop blogging and actually do something.

/rant.  sorry.

on a side note, i took a 3 hour bike ride today, through the marigny & french quarter, up to Tulane/Audubon park, then along the levee path for a while (which I hear runs all the way to Baton Rouge).  it was so beautiful!  drivers are insane here & the roads are rough in places, but the views, weather, and total lack of hills very much make up for it.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on May 21, 2006, 10:21:57 PM
bean-- thank you for the perspective. i appreciate your ability/desire to observe so intensely so soon after moving to the city.

withj-- are you joining us? really? if so, great!!!!!

still looking forward to lunch w/ any upcoming 1Ls (cheesesteak, will send you a personal email as soon as i figure out how to do so).

been working on some hurricane related stuff with the Student Hurricane Network:
http://www.studenthurricanenetwork.org/
this is a group of law students from around the country who've been trying to keep attention and resources focused on hurricane-affected areas. if you have a lot or a little time to donate, they def. could use your help. (if you have a lot, tell them, and in about five min. you will be a serious part of the group and they will give you some amazing responsibilities and opportunities). good work continues to be done!!!

god save our motto for attending tulane. . .we ARE morally superior! ;-)
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on May 21, 2006, 10:24:17 PM
That is a really cool link, I am putting it in my autosig.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on May 23, 2006, 10:17:06 AM
Here's my thought on the election:  It was the devil you know versus the OTHER devil you know. 

Nagin has screwed up the recovery, but who is to say anyone else would have done a better job?  If nothing else, I know Nagin has tried to modernize the city government and stop all of the corrupt dealmaking.  Before the storm, he had a very strong approval rating.

I know people in the Nagin administration who had to hire bodyguards after refusing to renew back-room contracts made under the previous mayor. There were death threats. You have to have followed local politics for longer than this year to get it. It is a more complicated situation than the national media would imply.

Landrieu, as far as I'm concerned, is just another Louisiana good ole boy.  His daddy was the mayor in the 70's, his sister is a senator, his cousin is a judge and his aunt is the school board president.   He has nothing to say for himself except that he's got friends in high places.  On principle, I don't vote for members of political family dynasties.  Good lord, look at the Bush clan.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on May 23, 2006, 11:18:23 AM
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Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cheesesteak on May 23, 2006, 05:31:24 PM
Me
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 24, 2006, 07:46:20 AM
My friend and I are both sending in our seat deposits...NOLA here I come.

That being said, I'm heading down to look for housing next week, and was just wondering what leases are like in NOLA.  Are there any escape clauses written into leases in case of, ahem, natural disasters (or anything of that sort)?  Advice?

Thanks much! 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on May 24, 2006, 10:57:03 AM
I got an email from W&L on Monday asking if I'm still interested.  It breaks my heart, but I don't think I could say yes this late in the year.  Selling my house and relocating would require more time than is left this summer.

How your lease works depends a lot on the landlord.  If you rent from a big company, they'll just waive rent for the period of time the apartment is uninhabitable by law - meaning under mandatory evacuation or no water service.  For Katrina, that amounted to about two weeks, unless the apartment was damaged in the storm.  If the apartment was damaged, the lease is pretty much immediately void. 

I own a duplex that I rent out, and I waived rent for my tenants for September, October, and November.  But I'm really nice.  If they'd wanted out of the lease I would have let them as it would be no problem finding new tenants.  Generally, you can expect that landlords will just keep your deposit if you bail out early, but probably won't bother going after you for the remainder of the lease. 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 24, 2006, 11:19:47 AM
W&L's loss is definitely Tulane's gain. 

thanks for the information on renting...you're a great help!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bloodbath on May 24, 2006, 09:40:14 PM
Just got back from a week long excursion to nola to search for housing. I signed my lease to start June first, though I'm not exactly sure when I'll be arriving back full time (sometime between mid-end of June) . $1500/month for a completely remodeled 2bd/1bath bottom half of a duplex on Octavia near Claiborne. I searched everywhere and I think I got a great house in a safe area. It's about a 1/2 mile from the law building. I drove up and down streets for three days straight looking for "for rent" signs and making phone calls, that's how I found it. A Tulane grad student (not law) will be living above me in the house. If anyone has any questions on housing, feel free to shoot me a pm. It's definitely not that bad of a situation. 1 bed in a decent area is doable for $700-$1000(I saw a sweet one bedroom backing up to audobon park for $950). 2 beds are like $1250-$2000 depending on size and area.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on May 25, 2006, 09:53:28 AM
Cool bb.  You'll be right by my house.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on May 31, 2006, 03:30:26 PM
Tomorrow, June 1, is the postmark deadline for the second, $700.00 seat deposit to Tulane. I got in at Alabama. Their $100 deposit is due June 9.

I don't have money to throw around on seat deposits, but I'd like to keep my hat in the ring at both places a little longer. I've got a $20k/yearly from Tulane if I keep a 3.0. Only a $1,200 book scholarship from Alabama, but I qualify for in-state tuition for the second and third years if I take certain steps.

So, my total to borrow from Tulane, minus the $60k scholarship, would still be around $100k +/-, while at Alabama it would probably be around $70k +/-.

Just thinking out loud. Anybody else in a similar boat? Ruminating on whether they really want to send that second deposit?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cheesesteak on June 03, 2006, 12:11:41 PM
Have fun in Cali.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on June 20, 2006, 04:23:41 PM
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Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cheesesteak on June 20, 2006, 07:54:29 PM
All right, so it falls to me to revive this thread YET AGAIN !

Where are my fellow Tulanites? Have you all reserved your lockers with Jennifer Kott?

I have withdrawn from all my other schools, Green Wave here I come !
Thought you were going to Davis (UC Davis class of 2009 was in your sig line last time I was on here)
I think I am going to meet up with one of our future classmates next week in Philly somewhere to get drinks.  I found him through the Tulane roommate database.  Speaking of roommates...
I am looking for housing.  I want to spend between 400-600 bucks a month, I can't visit Nola before school starts, and I won't have rent+deposit money until August (so I can't pay July rent).  Does anyone have any suggestions (that haven't already been given) or know anyone who could help me out.  Any leads would be greatly appreciated.  I looked on the roommate search and also on the Latter and Blum and the local newspaper thing but no luck yet.  The rent seems pretty darn steep.  Anyways, anything would help.  Hope to see y'all soon.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on June 20, 2006, 08:29:06 PM
All right, so it falls to me to revive this thread YET AGAIN !

Where are my fellow Tulanites? Have you all reserved your lockers with Jennifer Kott?

I have withdrawn from all my other schools, Green Wave here I come !

After saying in another "Help me with my decision"-type thread that I was going to Alabama, I reconsidered and am following my heart to New Orleans. I withdrew from Hofstra, Ave Maria and Alabama, and will be somewhere uptown in the Crescent City this August, though I haven't found a room yet and am starting to worry a little.

Reserved my locker.

I sent in my financial aid paperwork today.

See you all soon.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cheesesteak on June 21, 2006, 04:56:55 PM
I just found out that I am in off of the waitlist at Miami.  Tempting...but I sent Tulane the full grand already.  That flooding in Houston a few days ago made me pretty nervous, but Miami isn't much better situated.  The heat and humidity here (Philly) are already getting to me (I work outside) and I can't imagine its any better in Nola.  But, I feel like I've been given an awesome opportunity that I shouldn't let pass.  Also, the attorneys that I spoke with here had only good things to say about Tulane, so thats good. 
Craigslist.org, huh?  Thanks I'll check it out.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on June 24, 2006, 10:09:06 AM
so i have been M.I.A.-- but i have to say that the reason for this is that i have been living in new orleans, busy w/ law school related stuff and moving in, and loving the city. . .love it!

bonkers-- glad to see your still considering tulane. have you visited lately? i know that will make your mind up for you. . .

i LOVE new orleans. look forward to seeing you all there.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: joespecial on June 24, 2006, 05:50:10 PM
I am definitely going to Tulane. I am moving there 3 weeks from today.

An interesting article on MSNBC about the recovering justice system in New Orleans. It mentions several Tulane and Loyola law professors...

Justice system struggles in New Orleans (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13525692/)
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on June 24, 2006, 11:45:59 PM
I am definitely going to Tulane. I am moving there 3 weeks from today.

An interesting article on MSNBC about the recovering justice system in New Orleans. It mentions several Tulane and Loyola law professors...

Justice system struggles in New Orleans (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13525692/)

Bonkers, did you have any trouble finding a place to stay? How long was your search? Did you use a service?

I've been trolling craigslist and the Gambit ads for weeks with no success. I send ten e-mails for every "thanks but no thanks" response I get. I'm starting to think I'll be the only homeless 1L at Tulane come August.

Anybody else having trouble finding a place? Anybody who's been successful have any pointers for me?

Thanks.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: not funny on June 25, 2006, 02:02:37 AM
I am definitely going to Tulane. I am moving there 3 weeks from today.

An interesting article on MSNBC about the recovering justice system in New Orleans. It mentions several Tulane and Loyola law professors...

Justice system struggles in New Orleans (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13525692/)

Bonkers, did you have any trouble finding a place to stay? How long was your search? Did you use a service?

I've been trolling craigslist and the Gambit ads for weeks with no success. I send ten e-mails for every "thanks but no thanks" response I get. I'm starting to think I'll be the only homeless 1L at Tulane come August.

Anybody else having trouble finding a place? Anybody who's been successful have any pointers for me?

Thanks.

If you think you're going to be the only homeless person in New Orleans you are sadly mistaken.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bethie204 on June 25, 2006, 03:19:59 PM
Hey withj.  I found a place looking through ads on both the Tulane Law School welcome website and the Tulane Univ. Off Campus Housing website.  I didn't think I'd ever find a place, but I went down for a few days about two weeks ago and ended up taking the first place I saw.  Here's a hint (especially for craigslist): try to schedule showings mostly with places with pics available.  Also, ask folks at the Tulane admissions office if a particular area is a good one for students to live in.  They're extremely helpful.  My first day in town I wasted a lot of time and gas  looking at places that were either in not so great looking neighborhoods or were the size of closets but tons of $$$.  If you have any questions, feel free to PM. 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on June 25, 2006, 10:28:00 PM
Hey withj.  I found a place looking through ads on both the Tulane Law School welcome website and the Tulane Univ. Off Campus Housing website.  I didn't think I'd ever find a place, but I went down for a few days about two weeks ago and ended up taking the first place I saw.  Here's a hint (especially for craigslist): try to schedule showings mostly with places with pics available.  Also, ask folks at the Tulane admissions office if a particular area is a good one for students to live in.  They're extremely helpful.  My first day in town I wasted a lot of time and gas  looking at places that were either in not so great looking neighborhoods or were the size of closets but tons of $$$.  If you have any questions, feel free to PM. 

Hi Bethie. Thanks for the tips, it sounds like excellent advice. So far I've used only craigslist or the gambit ads, I haven't tried the off campus housing site.

Unfortunately, I'm a working stiff, paycheck-to-paycheck type, and in order to afford the move and setup before my loans get released, I'm going to have to work up to the last minute. I won't be able to get to New Orleans before early August, so I'm hoping to find something before I get there.

Again, thanks for the help.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bow Tied Up on June 26, 2006, 02:05:48 PM
hey y'all, hope summer finds everyone well.

i was in town in early June; on the way to give a Gambit Weekly post a look, my roommate and i drove by the apartment we ended up taking.  in what i assume is typical new orleans style, the apartment (second floor of a house close to campus) was not listed--the only way we knew it was for rent was because it had, well, a "for rent" sign in the window.  called the owner, looked at it, and after looking at a few other apartments (and becoming a bit discouraged), we took it.

i'd use Gambit Weekly and whatever Tulane has listed as a starting point.  i wasn't very happy with what was posted on craigslist in new orleans (which is surprising since i've used it to find my last two apartments here in boston).

my advice would be to get a few promising leads and then ask someone who knows the area about the places you have found.  maybe they'd even drive by them for you (i would offer, but i won't be moving for another month).

best of luck though!  can't wait to meet everyone.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on June 28, 2006, 07:55:49 PM
Let me make another plug for a great group of law students working on hurricane-related issues. it's headed up by an awesome guy, a 3L at Tulane:

www.studenthurricanenetwork.o rg

Check it out =-)

I wouldn't use craigslist in NOLA for apartments. None of the apartments I followed up with on craigslist were actually available. I have been driving around uptown near campus lately and there have been tons of signs in windows saying apartments for rent that I suspect aren't listed anywhere else. the realty agencies here, latter and blum for sure, can also help people find apartments who aren't living here.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on June 28, 2006, 10:06:51 PM
Funny, I only use craigslist to find tenants for my rental property.  Sadly, it's already leased.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bye Bye Tulane on July 05, 2006, 07:25:49 AM
WARNING   DO NOT GO TO TULANE

1.  There is NO PLAN in place to assist law students if the school is shut down for more than a couple of weeks.  They haven't set up a remote location to continue instruction, nor have they formed a plan to compress semesters as they did this year.  They have taken a 'wait and see' attitude that demonstrates a lack of respect for students and a lack of care.

2.  Unless you want to work in the south, Tulane will not get you the job you want.  The woman who visits big firms to get them to recruit on campus is horrendously annoying and has been turning big firms off for years.  Remember:  LSU rules in LA, old miss rules in MS, Alabama rules in AL, and texas...well, I think we all know.  You will be turned down for jobs that are given to MORONS from lesser schools just because the partners went to lesser schools.  If you want to work in the Northeast, forget it.  Look at the firms in DC, Baltimore, Philly, NYC...almost no one from Tulane.  No on campus interviewing from these firms, and your letter to them asking for an interview will be one of thousands that they won't look at because they meet face to face with students from firms in the northeast.

I'm trying to save some of you from making a horrible mistake.  Tulane treats students like high school kids, not like adult law studetns.  They have no decent plans in place in the event of a problem and you might end up losing a year of your life and tons of work because of their lassitude.  Additionally, the school's name does NOT (i repeat, DOES NOT) travel well.  The rankings are going to plummet in March...while we all poo poo those rankings, we all also know that they mean a lot.  While some of you sound very intelligent, many of the people they're allowing into your class are downright stupid.  Finally, more profs are going to bailout...nothing is official yet, but there are rumblings of profs going on sabatacals in order to "interview" for a job...many of these profs are the good profs, and many old profs are going to retire in just a year or two. 

It isn't too late to do something.  Find another school.  At a MINIMUM, I would contact a few schools and see if you can set up some kind of contingency plan with them...have them look at your info and see if they would be willing to let you visit immediately upon a disaster in new orleans; if there is a problem, there will be hundreds of your classmates looking for a handout AS WELL AS tulane telling schools not to take their first year students (this DID happen after katrina).  Set something up today.

Good luck...DON'T GO.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Alamo on July 05, 2006, 09:17:34 AM
I can't speak to Tulane's contingency planning efforts, but according to Martindale:

DC: 140 Tulane grads
New York (state): 417 Tulane grads - 327 are in NYC
Chicago: 106 Tulane grads
LA: 68 Tulane grads
San Fran: 61 Tulane grads
Atlanta: 120 Tulane grads
Philly: 32 Tulane grads
Houston: 261 Tulane grads
Dallas: 126 Tulane grads
Baltimore: 15 Tulane grads

Also, this doesn't include those attorneys who are in-house counsel, or many attorneys who simply don't feel the need to list on Martindale (it isn't free).

Bye Bye seems to be right about Philly and Baltimore, but who knows how much of that is self-selection?  I think that for its place in the USNWR rankings, it travels better than other similarly ranked schools.

I'm sure you all know that Tulane is a bit of a risky proposition, but also a unique opportunity.  Who knows what will happen in the rankings.  New Orleans may be rebuilt better than ever, and the risk may reap huge dividends.  I would imagine that anyone who has accepted an offer of admission has thought these risks through, and is well aware of Tulane's excellent reputation in many geographically dispersed parts of the country. 
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bye Bye Tulane on July 05, 2006, 10:03:48 AM
Do you know how many lawyers there are in DC?  There are probably 30 firms with more than 500 attorneys in the OFFICE.  There are only 140 tulane grads in the whole city...not a very good idea to go to tulane if you want to work in DC/NYC.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bye Bye Tulane on July 06, 2006, 11:16:02 AM
1.  Yeah, I had a typo in there.  Doesn't change the facts in my post.

2.  Dude, there is no plan.  Any plan at all.  There is no way Tulane would put a compressed semester plan in place again.  It was hellish for students, hard on faculty, and academic services could barely keep *&^% straight.  If something happens, even a minor problem that disrupts school for a few weeks, you're going to lose a year.  period.  1Ls got screwed when it came to classroom time, time to study for finals, transfer options, and summer jobs.  You're rolling the dice...go somewhere that isn't going to flood.  I saw in another post that you childishly said bad things can happen anywhere...yeah, that's true, but really bad *&^% can happen in NOLA.

3.  Crime is up.  Way up.  This is a fact...check the local news.  It's just going to get worse.  MY CLASSMATES don't feel safe, so i don't really give a @#!* about your opinion, as you don't live around the school.

4.  If you don't want to work in Louisianna, don't go to tulane unless you plan on being in the top 10%.  by the way...almost everyone thinks they're going to be in the top ten percent.

5.  listen to me...I HAVE NOTHING VESTED IN YOUR CHOICE--IT DOES NOT AFFECT ME IN ANY WAY.  I'm simply trying to tell you that you're making a mistake.  I've made mistakes in my lifetime and in retrospect I can see that people could have warned me and in other cases I could have listened to the warnings I received.  I just don't want to see someone come to Tulane based on the bubbly, cheery, ignorant posts of someone on the internet.  what i post is fact--many people choose to delude themselves about law school applications.  they think they'll do better.  they expect doors to open for them.  they expect it to be 'different' for them.  they think there is something special about them that employers will see.  without the right school from the right area, or the right grades, you WILL NOT get interviews.  period.  THERE IS NO FLEXIBILITY IN LAW SCHOOL OR IN FINDING LEGAL WORK.  NONE. 

want to work in texas and didn't get into a texas school?  wait a year.  Atlanta and no atlanta school?  wait a year.  want to work in new orleans?  change your plan or go to LSU so if a storm hits, you still have a school to go to.

this isn't some xoxohth.com bull...*&^%, i'd rather see you go to a tier two school before you risk your money, hard work, time, effort, personal property, and personal safety in new orleans.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: withj on July 06, 2006, 12:31:12 PM
this isn't some xoxohth.com bull...sh*t, i'd rather see you go to a tier two school before you risk your money, hard work, time, effort, personal property, and personal safety in new orleans.

BBT, I'm genuinely sorry you had such a negative experience with Tulane Law School and are so deeply embittered* because of it. I believe I can safely infer that to be the case, since the most reliable alternative explanation for your lengthy, raving (sorry again, but that's they way they come across) posts would be that you have borderline sociopathic tendencies that are nursed to the surface by the anonymity of posting on an Internet message board. I think the inference to the best explanation is therefore that you went to Tulane, and it blew up in your face.

That's nothing to be ashamed of, and there are certainly no guarantees for any of us in this. Each of us is as likely as any other to fall by attrition, and most of us are statistically likely to fall either in the middle or bottom third of our class. But every law student at every law school accepts these conditions.

Also, we all know that there's a heightened risk involved in attending law school in New Orleans as that city attempts to recover from the devastation of Katrina, a recovery that is by no means a sure thing. But if you find a coin on the street with the word Risk on one side, you'll probably find the word Opportunity on the other side if you flip it over. Right now there are tremendous opportunities for personal and professional service in the Crescent City. It's likely to remain that way for the entire time the TLS Class of 2009 is resident in New Orleans. That's the opportunity.

Bonkers and Alamo both posted verifiable numbers on the geographic diversity of placement for Tulane Law JDs. You didn't even pretend to address that. You just loaded up another salvo of ad hominem and fired away. Whatever credibility you purported to have that was not eroded by either your anonymity** or the red-faced, bulge-eyed, fist-pounding quality of your posts, was lost to that failure to engage with facts that don't support your assertions.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm certainly going into this with both eyes open, knowing there are no dead certs for anyone, and knowing that I'm balancing a certain heightened level of risk against the reward of a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity (playing a role in the restoration of a great American city).

So, BBT, I'm sorry for your loss, whatever it was and however TLS was in your mind implicated, a loss for which bitterness and resentment suppurate from every word of your rantings. I sincerely wish you the best in your future endeavors.

*Reading these posts, I can't help but laugh when I remember Woody's line from an old Cheers episode: "I'm not bitter, Sam. I'm just consumed by a gnawing resentment that's eating away at my stomach until I can taste the bile in my mouth."

**It's true, many people post anonymously. But anyone who is going to make the kind of assertions you're making, and offer it as advice to others, upon the authority of which they should make major changes in their life plans, owes it to those who might take that advice seriously to not hide behind anonymity.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on July 06, 2006, 09:19:05 PM
WOOOooooooOOOOOooooo!

Beware, if you go to Tulane, your computer will get a virus and explode, your dog will run off with an alligator, and all of your shoes will give you blisters!

Whatever.

Dude, Katrina screwed everybody.  An ADULT doesn't expect a university to take care of them in any contingency.  Those of us who lost homes, and the many who lost lives, aren't that het up over some students being behind a semester.  Sorry.

Some people just plain don't like New Orleans.  Fine, transfer elsewhere.  Since contrary to your assertions the vast majority of TL grads do indeed have jobs, I'll go on and take my chances.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bye Bye Tulane on July 07, 2006, 10:58:55 AM
OK, kiddies.  I tried to warn you.  I really did.  YOU are engaging in ad hom attacks instead of trying to take advice.  If you want to make assumptions about a school you didn't attend for the past seven months instead of taking advice from someone who was there and involved, well, that just ain't too bright.

None of you has your eyes open at all...you're all so happy you got into a T1 school instead of the T3 you deserve, you can't look at the facts.  In an ordinary year, Tulane wouldn't have even looked at many of the applications that they accepted this cycle.  The ranking is going to go down, the good profs are going to leave, and the city is going to turn into an even bigger shithole. 

Like I said, I have zero invested in your decision...but you should stop posting your blind, misplaced trust in tulane and your infantile belief in "good things will happen"...some people might be here looking for FACTS, and you guys have zero.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nola on July 07, 2006, 01:05:05 PM
Actually my husband and I are both Tulane alums who have been on staff with the university for a number of years.  I'm not representative of everyone on this board, of course, but I know a lot of people at the university and many alumni of the law school as well as other colleges.  I also own a duplex that I rent to current law students.  I'm sorry you've had a bad experience, but your over-the-top doomsday prophesies suggest, to me, lack of maturity.  You clearly need to get on with your life elsewhere.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: polar on July 07, 2006, 10:14:13 PM
BBT,

Are you graduating or transferring? If transferring, are you attending another T1 school? Give us more specifics about the problems you mention....more details.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bye Bye Tulane on July 08, 2006, 07:09:29 AM
Actually my husband and I are both Tulane alums who have been on staff with the university for a number of years.  I'm not representative of everyone on this board, of course, but I know a lot of people at the university and many alumni of the law school as well as other colleges.  I also own a duplex that I rent to current law students.  I'm sorry you've had a bad experience, but your over-the-top doomsday prophesies suggest, to me, lack of maturity.  You clearly need to get on with your life elsewhere.

A lack of maturity is evinced by those attending a school in a location of which they are ignorant.  A "this is America, everything is OK" attitude is inappropriate in the Katrina zone.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bye Bye Tulane on July 08, 2006, 07:31:23 AM
1.  For the past three months the air conditioner has been malfunctioning.  Storm related or not, this should be fixed.  It's summertime in New Orleans.  Its so hot that some profs have cancelled classes and the library is uninhabitable.  This should be repaired, and the fact that it wasn't a priority is unreal.

2.  Do you know how bad the hospital situation is in New Orleans?  Most are closed.  There are days where there is no on-call general surgeon for the hospitals.  None.  The general plan for major head trauma in New Orleans?  Stabilize and fly to houston or mobile...no decent trauma teams in the city.  Blood levels?  Always bottom of the barrel.  I hope you don't get sick or hurt.  Ambulances have trouble finding locations because street signs are down and roads are blocked, too.  "Oh, that'll be fixed by September!"  No.

3.  Five profs left last semester.  Seven or eight are visiting away in the fall.  That's not many more than ususal...until you look at where they're going...most are going to schools they've been to before or to schools in areas where they're from.  This has been discussed ad naseum at tulane and I assure you, several more are leaving.  Additionally, some profs are old enough that they're flirting with senility, so they'll be gone soon.  Ever have a first or second year law prof?  Not a good experience...enjoy the replacements.

4.  Ranking will go down.  The school is taking students with low numbers but "an enthusiasm for New Orleans, rebuilding, and public interest work."  The normal academic factors are out, and frankly I'm not confident the career office is competent enough to get the info to US NEWS.  Remember when the ranking dropped into the 60s?  That was because the morons in the career office screwed up the most important thing they had to do all year...get the complete and correct info to US News.

5.  Crime on campus is up...not drunk fights, not date rape, not pot sales in the dorms.  We're talking off campus individuals coming on campus and robbing and shooting.  One student was shot in the foot with a shotgun, another was chased by a coked up nut who tackled the student and stole his backpack.  Car theft is up, as well.  You don't want to be around the people who have come back to new orleans...

6.   Getting a job is next to impossible because we had to wait until the end of april for our first semester grades.  Everyone else got their grades in January.  You know when you can apply for your 1L summer jobs?  Dec 1st.  Do you think firms would talk to any of us without first semester grades?  No.  I emailed and mailed my resume to tons and tons of firms in many areas...no one would even look at my app without grades.  If this happens again and you get screwed into going to school at odd times, you won't be in the job application groove at the right time, and you'll be screwed.

7.  Students were on a six day per week, two class per day schedule for the first semester and then three weeks of the second semester.  This was the published schedule and students planned around it.  During the fourt week it was unilatterally decided and announced from on high that the schedule was changing...five days per week, three days per week you had three classes in one day, often with the same class two days in a row.  No input sought from students.  No advance warning.  Students often had to read for three classes the for following day after taking three classes.  Why?  So a few of the bitchy profs could have 1.25 hours off on saturday morning.  that's a lack of respect for students; that's how you treat people when you know they have no options and you know they can't do anything about your actions.

8.  Many of us living around tulane have frequent power outages.  Because they're fixing the power grid, right?  No.  Because they rigged it after the storm to get power back and haven't touched it since then, and now the rigged parts are failing. 

9.  In the past six months the administration has been SILENT on a hurricane plan.  To our knowledge they have not put any plan in place to help students communicate with other law schools to find a spot in the event of a problem.  Someone earlier in this thread made the comment that as adults, we should find our own place to go.  Yeah, that's a stupid thing to say.  If tulane had stepped up and played a role, things could have gone very smoothly...for students and other lawschools.

10.  Law school is hard enough...extra distractions and annoyances don't help.  "Oh, but that trains you to work in adverse conditions, just like the real world!"  Yeah, it helps to get the basics before you try to QB in the big game. 

Good luck to all...
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Bye Bye Tulane on July 09, 2006, 02:53:57 PM
Yeah, the French Quarter is super safe.  Because it didn't flood.  Oh, and there are about twenty state cop cars parked on Canal Street and there are almost as many cops in the French Quarter as tourists...they're there to protect people at conventions.  I assure you that uptown is not in the same boat.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bruinbro on July 12, 2006, 05:41:45 PM
Yeah, the French Quarter is super safe.  Because it didn't flood.  Oh, and there are about twenty state cop cars parked on Canal Street and there are almost as many cops in the French Quarter as tourists...they're there to protect people at conventions.  I assure you that uptown is not in the same boat.

This guy is full of sh*t. You either:

1. Are at the bottom of your class at Tulane and want to take out your anger at not getting a job on your school.

2. Got dinged at Tulane, you go to a school ranked below it, and now want to post flames in a weak attempt to sully a school.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: AndyJay on July 13, 2006, 04:08:56 PM
Hello future Tulanians,

I'm a current TLS student (will be a 2L this fall) peeking in on LSD in order to see what sorts of conversations are floating around about the city and the school. I was pleased to read so many enthusiastic posts, and I'm looking forward to having all the new folks on campus in a few weeks.

These sorts of long threads always degenerate into some negative arguments, and I don't want to continue this. I respect the negative posters out there too. BBT is entitled to his/her opinion, and I have my own harsh things to say about this place. If BBT is a TLS student with 3.74 or so GPA, then I'm sorry we're losing him. I'm worried about losing a lot of students via transfer, as some seem to be manuevering to transfer without telling anyone else. BUT, I am staying, and want to say that there are a LOT of good reasons for you to be here this fall. Post-Katrina New Orleans offers many opportunities for volunteer work that are helpful even if you don't go into public interest. Our criminal law clinic rocks (Pam Metzger and Katherine Mattes run the program, and are all over the national news these days), our environmental law program is still extremely strong (and arguably more important than ever due to its location on the front lines of legal environmental policy), and our attrition of professors has not been as terrible as was feared previously. And the leadership around here. Well, I wouldn't trust them farther than I could throw them. But they probably won't ruin your law career - there are some great people working here, too. I'll admit also that I'm still worried about some good profs bolting for other schools. The Concurring Opinions blog has more information in case you want to dig into this more. I'm also worried about hurricanes. It doesn't take a big one to close the school down and interrupt the academic year. Before Katrina, just recently a much smaller hurricane resulted in a missed week of class that had to be made up on the weekends.

And although TLS is no "party school" in the Animal House sense of the phrase, we definitely have great bar reviews. There is also a strong spirit of collaboration amongst the students, not competitive attitudes, which makes for a more serious but also amicable learning environment. Many of those that visited at other schools after katrina report that TLS has a much better learning environment where everyone seems to get along.

And what is that famous saying "may you live in interesting times"? New Orleans may be hurt badly by the storm, but this sort of volatile environment makes for an extremely interesting backdrop. Much more so than other schools.

Anyway, if anyone has any questions or is seeking advice, post up, and I'll check back in a few days and try to help out.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bean on July 16, 2006, 08:47:03 PM
hey, i just rediscovered this website.  as for the drama-fest above, tulane reports that 95% of graduates are employed less than a year after graduation... way i see it, unless you're a status-obsessed nut, those are pretty good odds.  i've already gone far enough in one career to know that ultimately my long-term job prospects & happiness will be determined by my own actions anyway- and the lawyers i know back home were suitably impressed that i'm damn sure attending this school at this time won't be actively holding me back in the least.  but then, i happen to have both high scores AND "an enthusiasm for New Orleans, rebuilding, and public interest work."  ...so maybe my priorities are different.  about the disaster plan, well, that's just a stupid argument.  there's a really good chance a massive earthquake will decimate SF in the next 30 years, but that doesn't seem to keep folks away from Berkeley.  or the New College, for that matter.

wow, got distracted.  really i'm just writing to let my fellow activist types know that plans are already in the works for the creation of both new orleans & tulane chapters of the national lawyer's guild- http://www.nlg.org/ (http://www.nlg.org/).  still in early planning stages, but hit me up if you want listserv/real-life meeting info.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on July 18, 2006, 02:30:58 PM
working with people in the gulf coast area over the summer has been absolutely amazing. you all should look forward to meeting some great people.

the student hurricane network has started recruiting students from around the country to continue working in the gulf coast area. we are getting often over 100 responses/week, which is unbelievable.

the orgs we've been working with have been able to put together some interesting projects for students because the efforts at recovery have been able to move past just the basic needs of gutting houses towards helping people fight legal battles for their houses, property and insurance money. (of course, some places are still in desperate need of "basic" and essential support, i just mean to say that it is an interesting time to be a law student here).

on a different note, i had the awesome experience of arriving back in new orleans after travelling around india. when i stepped off the plane, my immediate reaction was, "thank god i'm home!" YAY for new orleans being home.

i tried to throw a party for all of the incoming 1Ls during orientation, but i got rebuffed. . .no release of y'alls email addresses and i don't know how else i'd contact everyone before school starts. . .but anyways, i'll have to wait til later in the semester. . .maybe that's better anyhow for stress relief purposes. still looking forward to meeting everyone!!!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: AndyJay on July 23, 2006, 10:39:26 PM
Hey Bonkers, Jr.,
I saw on your LSN profile that you are interested in animal law activism. In case you don't already know, Tulane has an animal law society. I *think* they were involved with the post-Katrina issues of displaced animals. I'm unsure how active they've been overall, but they were recruiting back in January when we restarted. The student organizations down here are great, so I encourage everyone to roll up their sleeves and join a few, particularly in the capacity of an officer, if possible.

-Andy (TLS '08)
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: nolalove on August 07, 2006, 01:55:08 AM
Match Makers For Justice ~ Work With Residents To Help Them Rebuild Their Lives!
 
In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, many residents are still experiencing difficulties in putting their lives back together.   Media attention has noticeably focused on the socio-economic inequities of the rebuilding process increasingly less so.  Aid is flowing into the region, but residents with the greatest need face the greatest difficulties in accessing government assistance.   
 
Match Makers for Justice (M4J) is a pilot project designed to help displaced residents help themselves by connecting residents with training and a law student advocate to effectively navigate government systems and gain access to quality jobs, education, health care, and housing.   The M4J program will pair interested students with displaced residents, host a training session in New Orleans and provide ongoing support as students and residents work together to help resolve the resident's post-Katrina challenges. For additional details about both SHN and M4J, see studenthurricanenetwork.org or email matchmakers4justice@gmail.com.
 
What Does my Commitment Entail?
 
Simply put, each student is expected to: 1) articulate and document the specific challenge(s) faced by the resident; 2) attend a training session in New Orleans with their resident partner on Saturday, September 2, 2006; and 3) help empower their resident to address his/her ongoing challenges in securing quality jobs, education, health care, and housing. Student participants will also be asked to identify their professor mentor and to assist with fundraising for the training session. SHN will work with partner organizations to provide students and residents with necessary informational materials. Additionally, SHN will arrange a network of support structures for both residents and students, including:   survivor council meetings; student support group teams; professor mentors for each law student; cultural competency advisors; and legal aid referral advisors. Participation in the program is a six-week commitment.   
 
How Do I Apply?
 
Completed applications must be submitted online by 11:59 p.m. EST, Saturday August 12th. Please note that space will be limited in the pilot program to 60 law students and 60 residents. Questions about the program and/or the application process should be emailed to matchmakers4justice@gmail.com.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cheesesteak on August 14, 2006, 02:53:29 PM
I am in New Orleans, just drove down from Philly yesterday.  I have two roomies who I could convince to go out if I pulled their legs hard enough.  I would like to meet people before classes start.  I live three blocks from campus and have transportation.  If anyone wants to hang out reply to this thread and we can meet up.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cheesesteak on August 14, 2006, 02:58:48 PM
PM me and we'll set something up.  I don't want to give everyone on LSD my #.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: AndyJay on August 14, 2006, 05:06:25 PM
Hi Cheesesteak, Bonkers, Jr. and NolaLove,

The upcoming 2L class tends to hang out a lot at the Balcony Bar down on Magazine st. Many of the 2Ls aren't back in town yet. There will be an information presentation on Thursday for all the law societies, and then everyone is going to Phillip's Bar (nearby) after that.

-Andy
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cgriffi1 on October 17, 2006, 01:29:15 PM
hey, i'm a current tulane senior (undergrad) and was wondering about what i need to get into tht law school. Any advantages bc i attend tulane as an undergrad? What about scholarships and does anyone know what the job market is like for tulane law grads post-K in major cities like NY?
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: Nickledime85 on October 25, 2006, 06:36:40 AM
Do I have a chance in hell of getting into Tulane with a 3.6 UGPA and a 158 LSAT? It's my number one choice, but I don't want to waste my money applying if it's pointless.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: cwalk on October 26, 2006, 01:42:40 PM
According to chiashu you have a

0.41011257945826307

percent chance of getting in.  It's my number one too, but I'm afraid mine is a lost cause.  But you should definitely go for it with that chance.
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: waclawjr on April 28, 2007, 10:08:56 PM
Do I have a chance in hell of getting into Tulane with a 3.6 UGPA and a 158 LSAT? It's my number one choice, but I don't want to waste my money applying if it's pointless.

Definitely apply!!! The only sure way of not getting in is by not applying.  I had similar scores to you it was my first acceptance!  Also I live in New Orleans and will be in town until late may early june so if anyone is planning on coming down message me and we can meet up!
Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: bournefree on August 05, 2008, 08:51:00 AM
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Title: Re: TULANE LAW SCHOOL THREAD
Post by: hopeful1985 on August 07, 2008, 02:35:43 PM
HI EVERYONE!

I want to apply to Tulane also for ED! I think I could bring a lot to the city and the school and it's definitely a place that I can see giving back to me as well.

What do you think my prospects are with the following (and yes Ive seen the LSN but I want someone's opinion)..

urm: puerto rican
gpa: cumulative 3.92 degree
lsat: 153

graduated top 1%, nominated for commencement speech, top student in the department of my major, study abroad experience with a 4.0 while i was there, worked in the host country i was in, and little regular non-legal jobs in college (mostly tutoring).