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Deciding Where to Go => Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists => Topic started by: postal007 on January 19, 2006, 04:00:39 PM

Title: UChicago Hold
Post by: postal007 on January 19, 2006, 04:00:39 PM
Got small, white envelope today with a Hold from Chicago.  I can interview, submit an additional essay, or provide a transcript, if I wish.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on January 19, 2006, 04:10:20 PM
Got small, white envelope today with a Hold from Chicago.  I can interview, submit an additional essay, or provide a transcript, if I wish.

:(

I liked the cycle better when people were only getting acceptances... :-\
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: azdezza on January 19, 2006, 04:16:11 PM
I would LOVE to get a hold letter from Chicago.  I think interviewing could really help one's chances... plus Dean Perry said (at a talk on campus once) that they will also do phone interviews if it's to expensive for you to fly/ drive to Chicago.  Good luck!!
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on January 19, 2006, 04:19:18 PM
I would LOVE to get a hold letter from Chicago.  I think interviewing could really help one's chances... plus Dean Perry said (at a talk on campus once) that they will also do phone interviews if it's to expensive for you to fly/ drive to Chicago.  Good luck!!

I wish I had applied to Chicago earlier...I think I won't be getting anything for awhile  :-\
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: postal007 on January 19, 2006, 04:58:12 PM
I would LOVE to get a hold letter from Chicago.  I think interviewing could really help one's chances... plus Dean Perry said (at a talk on campus once) that they will also do phone interviews if it's to expensive for you to fly/ drive to Chicago.  Good luck!!

Thanks for the info.  I'll probably end up doing the interview, although I'm interested in what kind of things they ask.  Anyone have any experience from a previous cycle?  Also, usually how long do they wait before deciding?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: gertrude on January 20, 2006, 03:29:47 PM
held as well- not too bad
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: gertrude on January 20, 2006, 03:34:02 PM
postal- do you know if the essays should be backed with research or do they strike you as general opinion essays?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: postal007 on January 20, 2006, 06:10:42 PM
postal- do you know if the essays should be backed with research or do they strike you as general opinion essays?

From first glance, they appear to be general opinion essays.  Now that I've had time to think, it looks hard to write a 2-3 page essay without putting in some kind of evidence.  In any case, I would think that some research would be good, although if I plan to submit an essay, I'm not going overboard.  Seems like they want to get an idea of our reasoning process (and maybe values?) more than our research skills.

Purely from LSN, it seems like Chicago is going more or less by LSATs... almost all acceptances have 170+, and most deferrals/dings are lower than 169, with the majority of the deferrals being in the 167-169 range.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: gertrude on January 20, 2006, 07:02:33 PM
ok thanks- that's about what I was thinking.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: jeb240 on January 24, 2006, 10:20:19 AM
Count me in.

I'm not feeling the essays.  I mean, the topics sound really interesting, but I don't want to be tearing my hair out over this when I have work that may actually matter.  I mean to say I will get grades on the work I'm doing now, as opposed to very possibly not getting into Chicago and still not knowing if the essay helped or hurt or what.

Hmm...
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: nowayman on January 24, 2006, 07:02:43 PM
Just got my deferral.

I'm going to interview, me thinks.  UofC is one of my top three choices (despite being in an urban setting), and that wasn't a total hail mary, but even then its one of four.

It'll be fun, too.  I've never seen Chicago.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: lightessenz on January 28, 2006, 06:27:26 PM
If you got held....My application is already in the reject pile:)
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: nascjacket on February 06, 2006, 11:40:13 AM
Held as well, but I didn't have the option of an interview.  Is that a good or bad sign?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: dmschec on February 06, 2006, 01:52:21 PM
Held today as well. I too did not have the option of an interview....

hmm
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Evo on February 06, 2006, 02:12:48 PM
Held today as well. I too did not have the option of an interview....
same here... guess us 'second cut' holds dont have the option...which sucks, since the interview can help a lot.

oh well.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: I Love Sasha Kaun! on February 06, 2006, 04:50:05 PM
Held... Chicago is one of my favorites; might pursue it along with Harvard... Penn, however, "you suck"
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: kiyakoiya on February 06, 2006, 05:56:53 PM
Held. Can't decide if I'll write an essay or not.  NYU is looking nicer...
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: assembletheways on February 07, 2006, 07:44:36 AM
Held at Chicago. 
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: lightessenz on February 07, 2006, 09:27:25 AM
I suspect this fate awaits my mailbox.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: PHSextemp on February 07, 2006, 09:32:07 AM
I got the same hold letter, also sans interview option.  I'm tempted to write the essay without research; I've been doing competitive debate for almost 8 years now so I think I could handle it, but who knows what the adcomm ppl want.  I already sent out an updated transcript, but I'm starting to feel like one of the above posters that NYU > Chicago ;)
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: jeb240 on February 07, 2006, 12:17:13 PM
Someone should verify that they are the same options, because it's obviously a different hold letter (since my letter offers the option of an interview), but here they are:

"We invite you to supplement your application with a two to three page essay on one of the following topics:

(1) Should social science evidence about the deterrence effect of capital punishment (for example, if the best evidence was that each execution saved two or more lives through deterrence) be relevant to the law's sanctioning of that penalty?

(2) Should it be lawful for the govermnent to torture people to gain information in extreme situations (for example, when a terrorist attack seems imminent)?

(3) Reactions you have to a book that is a current or recent (fiction or nonfiction) best-seller."

I'm really quite lazy and since the interview has to be done in Chicago, I'm just settling for sending in my transcript and hoping for the best.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: lightessenz on February 07, 2006, 02:12:12 PM
no hold or ding yet. went complete 12-20-06...I guess it will prob be a while still.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on February 07, 2006, 04:21:17 PM
no hold or ding yet. went complete 12-20-06...I guess it will prob be a while still.

Nobody with a complete date later than 12/1 or 12/2 cant remember has been accepted yet :)
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: lightessenz on February 07, 2006, 04:25:21 PM
oh good:) They can sit an ruminate on how much they want me.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: dmschec on February 09, 2006, 01:10:02 AM
how many of you guys are going to do one of the essays?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: jeb240 on February 09, 2006, 03:27:37 AM
how many of you guys are going to do one of the essays?

I'm hardcore riding out the Harvard and Chicago holds -- just sending in grades (I already sent in an additional LOR and an updated resume before I had even received these letters).  These essays sound cool, but the stress of writing it (and deciding whether or not to put in actual research) and stressing over each and every word just seems very frustrating to me at a time when I already have too many distractions from my actual school work.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: bluestater on February 13, 2006, 02:09:46 PM
Held.  Did interview, additional essay, and updated resume.  Chicago is my TOP choice.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: dmschec on February 15, 2006, 10:49:57 PM
Who do you think actually reads these essays? Admissions officers? Professors?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: bluestater on February 17, 2006, 12:39:47 PM
Who do you think actually reads these essays? Admissions officers? Professors?

I'm sure the entire admissions committee reads them.  From what I can tell there are very few people put on hold and invited to submit additional info.  And many of the people in that position choose not to supplement their applications at all.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: slicric on February 28, 2006, 11:26:20 AM
Held. Can't decide if I'll write an essay or not.  NYU is looking nicer...

I agree.  I want to work at a big firm in NYC and has an edge over Chicago in that department so I'm going to forgo submitting additional materials and get back to work on my thesis.  I'm still waiting to hear from Columbia and Harvard, but it looks like NYU is going to be my top choice.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: katedennis on February 28, 2006, 11:40:23 AM
I was held, with no interview option, and was given the same essay options.

I just finished writing the essay and will be putting it in the mail sometime tomorrow.  I sent an updated transcript last week.

I'm feeling like I might prefer Michigan over them?  I don't know, but I'd like to keep my options open.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: TheRenegade on February 28, 2006, 09:33:25 PM
I just got my hold letter this afternoon. I've been kinda lazy with some of my other holds, but I'll be spending most of this coming weekend whipping up one of the essays. Ahh it seems like only yesterday I had some crazy notion that I'd know what school I'd be going to by the end of March.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Pythagoras on March 01, 2006, 07:29:03 AM
Got the "hold" letter yesterday as well.  Pretty surprising as I was expecting a rejection or waitlist.

For those of you who are going to write an essay, which one of the three options are you going with?  The first two strike me as somewhat incendiary but doing #3 seems like a cop-out.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Pythagoras on March 01, 2006, 11:23:17 AM
Got the "hold" letter yesterday as well.  Pretty surprising as I was expecting a rejection or waitlist.

For those of you who are going to write an essay, which one of the three options are you going with?  The first two strike me as somewhat incendiary but doing #3 seems like a cop-out.  Any thoughts?

if you do capital punishment, make sure that you demonstrate familiarity with Eric Posner and Cass Sunstein's recent paper on that exact topic. Good luck.

Good lookin' out, Redemption.  Thanks.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Goodfella Aaron on March 01, 2006, 03:09:06 PM
I got the hold letter today too. I think I'm gonna do the third option. Hell, I've been doing book reports since Kindergarten. I used to write them on the bus before class, 23 days gives me plenty of time to crank out a good one.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: TheRenegade on March 01, 2006, 04:08:44 PM
I still haven't decided which essay I'm going to write. I think it'll be one of the first two. Considering how specific those two prompts were, I'm just not sure they'll take the book write-up as seriously. That being said those essays are going to be tough. I think that to answer them the way I'd like to would mean having to do a ton of research into legal philosophy and all sorts of fun stuff I don't know much about yet.

I'm thinking of putting a disclaimer at the top that says something along the lines of, "My answer is probably wrong because a bunch of the assumptions I'm basing this upon are too simplistic or just flat out wrong, but I'm not in law school yet anyway so just judge this on how strong my logic would be if my assumptions were correct."
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: TheRenegade on March 01, 2006, 04:50:42 PM
I still haven't decided which essay I'm going to write. I think it'll be one of the first two. Considering how specific those two prompts were, I'm just not sure they'll take the book write-up as seriously. That being said those essays are going to be tough. I think that to answer them the way I'd like to would mean having to do a ton of research into legal philosophy and all sorts of fun stuff I don't know much about yet.

I'm thinking of putting a disclaimer at the top that says something along the lines of, "My answer is probably wrong because a bunch of the assumptions I'm basing this upon are too simplistic or just flat out wrong, but I'm not in law school yet anyway so just judge this on how strong my logic would be if my assumptions were correct."

Well, that sounds courageous, but risky. Good luck with it.

Damn, my (purposefully) stupid jokes/suggestions totally nose-dive on this board. But I guess that hasn't really stopped me before.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: jasonk on March 01, 2006, 07:56:44 PM
I got this letter today.  I am going to write about the second topic (is govt sponsored torture ever justified?).  The problem is that Spring Break begins Friday for me and I will be gone until next Thurs.  I have two options.  The first is to write the paper tomorrow night (Thurs), have one or two people read it, and submit it on Fri.  Second is to wait until after Spring Break and do a more thorough job.  I am leaning towards busting my ass tomorrow night and submitting it as quickly as possible.
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: TheRenegade on March 01, 2006, 08:25:45 PM
I got this letter today.  I am going to write about the second topic (is govt sponsored torture ever justified?).  The problem is that Spring Break begins Friday for me and I will be gone until next Thurs.  I have two options.  The first is to write the paper tomorrow night (Thurs), have one or two people read it, and submit it on Fri.  Second is to wait until after Spring Break and do a more thorough job.  I am leaning towards busting my ass tomorrow night and submitting it as quickly as possible.
Any thoughts?

I think it might depend on why you think you got put on hold. If you think you had a strong app and they're more interested in making sure you're interested, maybe write it quickly. But if you think they just arent sure about you, take your time and write it well. It doesn't seem like Chicago has been rejecting and holding people just to boost their numbers, so I'd venture to guess that they would appreciate a really strong essay a few weeks later. Chicago hasn't seemed to be the "we dont want to be someone's backup" type of place.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: matlock2008 on March 02, 2006, 11:06:23 PM
I got this letter today.  I am going to write about the second topic (is govt sponsored torture ever justified?).  The problem is that Spring Break begins Friday for me and I will be gone until next Thurs.  I have two options.  The first is to write the paper tomorrow night (Thurs), have one or two people read it, and submit it on Fri.  Second is to wait until after Spring Break and do a more thorough job.  I am leaning towards busting my ass tomorrow night and submitting it as quickly as possible.
Any thoughts?

Well when is your update due?  Mine already happened (March 1).
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Evo on March 03, 2006, 10:36:57 PM
I got the hold dated 2/2.

has anyone gotten a decision back from a hold? (and what date)
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: dmschec on March 09, 2006, 03:29:38 PM
has anyone heard anything yet?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: TheRenegade on March 16, 2006, 11:24:17 AM
I have my last final today so I can finally start thinking about this essay. At first I was for sure going to write it, now I don't know. I'm an idiot and send them my financial aid stuff a week past the deadline, so I'm pretty much sure I wont get any money from them at all. Plus even if I do get it, I wouldnt be till mid april, giving me only two weeks to visit and decide.

Chances are I'll write it no matter how many reasons I come up with not to. I think the torture one does sound the most managable of two topics they actually want you to write about.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Goodfella Aaron on March 20, 2006, 09:08:59 PM
Hey guys, I need some help. I can't find my letter and I was wondering if there are any specific instructions for sending in the essay (LSAC number on it, etc.). Were there?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Goodfella Aaron on March 21, 2006, 10:12:54 AM
Thanks dood. I'm sending mine out today. I usually procrastinate on this type of stuff but when you've got a thesis running/ruining your life you need to get your *&^% together.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: postal007 on March 23, 2006, 01:31:44 PM
They're starting to review some holds.

I just got rejected =).
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: gwenkern on March 23, 2006, 03:25:20 PM
I got my waitlist letter today.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on March 23, 2006, 06:55:41 PM
I got my waitlist letter today.

I was waitlisted a few days ago :)

glad to be in good company...

I withdrew ;)
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: gwenkern on March 24, 2006, 07:47:13 AM
I had not received a hold letter prior to being placed on the waitlist.

Steve, I withdrew too -- mailed my letter this morning.  I sort of enjoy withdrawing.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: dmschec on March 28, 2006, 06:13:17 PM
anyone else still waiting?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: TheRenegade on March 28, 2006, 08:01:33 PM
I'm willing to be a lot of people are gonna be waiting for a while. My deadline to send in more stuff was just 3 days ago, so they probably wouldn't even be looking at it for a little while. That being said though I didn't end up sending them anything except my new grades.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: katedennis on March 31, 2006, 10:08:58 AM
I'm still waiting--my deadline to turn in extra materials was a month ago, and I sent extra grades and an essay. 

Not that I care much, I'm probably going to Michigan regardless.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: katedennis on April 06, 2006, 12:54:57 PM
bump...has anyone heard anything from Chicago post-deferral?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: ipwannabe on April 07, 2006, 08:47:41 AM
it looks like the first of the two ppl who were accepted post deferral last yr (on lsn) heard around now.... and it looks like a lot of rejections went out around mid-end of april.... maybe they are waiting to see their yield post financial aid packages?

good luck to everyone still waiting
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Angelina1 on April 10, 2006, 08:39:10 AM
I'm wondering, did any of you out there who got hold letters and/or waitlist notifications and/or rejections apply January or later, or do they just not bother to tell you you're on hold unless you applied ED?

When I emailed and asked for a status update, they said that my app had gone to committee on March 20 (over a month after my complete date), and that it can take up to 8 weeks after that to get a decision...so i guess they're on time as far as their own timeline goes! But it seems like, at this point, are they even bothering to look at applications anymore? I was impressed by the speed of their email response, though--they answered me in like 2 hours!

I wish now that I had spent more time on Chicago's app., like written more essays. It just took me so damn long to get a personal statement that i could even live with, let alone feel good about. Does anyone think it's worth writing an additional essay even if i haven't heard anything?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: alexdn on April 10, 2006, 07:46:46 PM
Yeah, I applied in January and got a hold letter.  My complete date is the last date on LSN for which they've given out decisions, and that was way back in January.  I suppose they can afford to be slow, though. 

But I'm withdrawing, so that's one less person to compete with, I guess. 
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Angelina1 on April 10, 2006, 07:58:44 PM
Yeah, I applied in January and got a hold letter.  My complete date is the last date on LSN for which they've given out decisions, and that was way back in January.  I suppose they can afford to be slow, though. 

But I'm withdrawing, so that's one less person to compete with, I guess. 

Well, it looks like you have a pretty decent alternative  :D
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: katedennis on April 11, 2006, 07:28:10 AM
I'm wondering, did any of you out there who got hold letters and/or waitlist notifications and/or rejections apply January or later, or do they just not bother to tell you you're on hold unless you applied ED?

When I emailed and asked for a status update, they said that my app had gone to committee on March 20 (over a month after my complete date), and that it can take up to 8 weeks after that to get a decision...so i guess they're on time as far as their own timeline goes! But it seems like, at this point, are they even bothering to look at applications anymore? I was impressed by the speed of their email response, though--they answered me in like 2 hours!

I wish now that I had spent more time on Chicago's app., like written more essays. It just took me so damn long to get a personal statement that i could even live with, let alone feel good about. Does anyone think it's worth writing an additional essay even if i haven't heard anything?

I applied before January, but after the ED deadline and I got the hold letter...still holding...
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: dmschec on April 18, 2006, 04:56:19 PM
will we be hearing in the next week or should we deposit elsewhere?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Goodfella Aaron on April 18, 2006, 05:31:33 PM
I sent my additional essay in on March 22 and my file went back to committee April 12. They said I'll get a decision before my deposit deadlines, though now I'm not sure if I'll stick it out. I loved UVA so much and I know Chicago's got the better opportunities but they're not gonna give me any money and I'd probably be happier elsewhere.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: dmschec on April 26, 2006, 02:05:42 PM
still nothing.... deposited at penn in order to make the deadline
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: defeatist on April 26, 2006, 04:50:22 PM
Someone on the UChicago Applicant Bulletin board reports that whoever answers the phone in the admissions office told them that "there were no acceptances from the hold list."

Only repeated, high-volume listenings to "Dirt off Your Shoulder" allowed me to open my mailbox this afternoon. Happily, it was empty.

At this point, I don't see why Chicago wouldn't just wait until early next month to move on held applications. Sure, a few people might deposit elsewhere, but there's no sense rejecting them this week. Why not wait until you see who sends back their enrollment forms?
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: katedennis on April 27, 2006, 10:01:56 AM
I deposited at Michigan, and at this point I'm so annoyed with UC that even if accepted, I probably wouldn't go. 

Jerks don't know what they're missing.  (sour grapes)
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: defeatist on April 27, 2006, 10:20:28 AM
I deposited at Michigan, and at this point I'm so annoyed with UC that even if accepted, I probably wouldn't go. 

Jerks don't know what they're missing.  (sour grapes)

This is all working out. Everyone else will walk out on Chicago, but I'll still be there, patiently waiting. Chicago!  Don't you know I've loved you all along? I'm the only one that really understands you. I'm the only one who really cares about you.

Then, after everyone else has come and gone, then, when it's just me and Chicago looking into each others eyes, then I'll get rejected.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: katedennis on April 27, 2006, 01:05:29 PM
Well, speak of the devil.  I finally heard back from Chicago...the dreaded waitlist.  As I suggested, I'll be withdrawing promptly.  Good luck to you, defeatist.  I hope your love is soon requited.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: dmschec on April 27, 2006, 03:16:55 PM
How did you hear? When was your initial hold letter dated?

thanks...
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on April 27, 2006, 03:20:42 PM
I deposited at Michigan, and at this point I'm so annoyed with UC that even if accepted, I probably wouldn't go. 

Jerks don't know what they're missing.  (sour grapes)

This is all working out. Everyone else will walk out on Chicago, but I'll still be there, patiently waiting. Chicago!  Don't you know I've loved you all along? I'm the only one that really understands you. I'm the only one who really cares about you.

Then, after everyone else has come and gone, then, when it's just me and Chicago looking into each others eyes, then I'll get rejected.


You're on four waitlists - you have a good shot at hitting at least one
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: defeatist on April 27, 2006, 03:26:24 PM
Then, after everyone else has come and gone, then, when it's just me and Chicago looking into each others eyes, then I'll get rejected.


Don't give up yet!

From one Chicago lover to another.

Oh, the point is mainly that I haven't given up yet, but probably I should have given up as soon as I gave my application to the mailman. If I hadn't spent all this time writing "Defeatist Chicago" on all of my notebooks and imagining what kind of kids we'd have, it wouldn't hurt so much when Chicago finally turns me down.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on April 27, 2006, 06:21:19 PM
I'm rooting for people here (someone needs to go to school with me.   :'()

You could've went to school with me!!

I'm not sure why this is my unreads  8)
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on April 27, 2006, 06:27:51 PM
Yeah, but neither of those schools wants to give me money (although in truth, NYU still hasn't told me...)

I'm still amazed that I'm getting money from all these schools and applicants like you and Donnie aren't.  I mean our numbers are pretty much the same, plus you have work experience and a more prestigious UG
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on April 27, 2006, 06:32:44 PM
errr...my numbers aren't nearly as good as yours.

They don't care about UG rep. They would if there were no such thing as the USNWR rankings, but in this day and age its all about the numbers. Also work experience means jack all for the same reason.

I thought you were 171/4.0  ??? ??? ???

UG rep and WE prolly don't count for much, but I bet they help a little bit  :-\

You got into Columbia MONTHS before me, and I didn't make it into Chicago at all ;)
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on April 27, 2006, 06:35:52 PM
Yeah, but neither of those schools wants to give me money (although in truth, NYU still hasn't told me...)

I'm still amazed that I'm getting money from all these schools and applicants like you and Donnie aren't.  I mean our numbers are pretty much the same, plus you have work experience and a more prestigious UG

I think it's because of your large NYU offer.  I haven't seen anyone (with the exception of the Hamiltons) get what you got at CLS unless they had another offer to use as leverage.  Now why you got what double what Donnie got at NYU, I have no idea. 

I'm sure the NYU offer helped, but Dorian had a large Chicago offer and Donnie had a smaller NYU offer and CLS wouldn't give them anything - thats really strange.

There's really nothing that special about me: oh here's something, I'm in Phi Beta Kappa AND Tau Beta Pi - thats kinda rare I guess, but pretty worthless for LS admissions
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: ivywhore on April 28, 2006, 03:52:14 AM
The crest is impressive Dorian
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: ivywhore on April 28, 2006, 04:07:10 AM
most welcome.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: SouthSide on April 28, 2006, 04:09:38 AM
Chicago has the ultimate crest. I would proudly march into battle behind the Phoenix.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: ivywhore on April 28, 2006, 04:15:45 AM
very aristocratic, very ivy
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: SouthSide on April 28, 2006, 04:17:34 AM
Oh please. It owns all the Ivy crests.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: SouthSide on April 28, 2006, 04:26:14 AM
The crest is fine, but the baby blue coloring is not great.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: ipwannabe on April 28, 2006, 08:01:54 AM
for ppl who got the waitlist letter, was it a straight waitlist? ive heard in the past that chicago sometimes offers the opportunity to be considered for admission to the next yr's class instead?

Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on April 28, 2006, 08:09:11 AM
for ppl who got the waitlist letter, was it a straight waitlist? ive heard in the past that chicago sometimes offers the opportunity to be considered for admission to the next yr's class instead?



I got the waitlist letter awhile back, but it did offer the opportunity for next yr's class, and had a handwritten note about "how it would be a good idea to do this"  ::)
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on April 28, 2006, 08:30:44 AM
for ppl who got the waitlist letter, was it a straight waitlist? ive heard in the past that chicago sometimes offers the opportunity to be considered for admission to the next yr's class instead?



I got the waitlist letter awhile back, but it did offer the opportunity for next yr's class, and had a handwritten note about "how it would be a good idea to do this"  ::)

Did they suggest anything meaningful to do for the next year?  I don't know what I would do with myself if I took a year off.

They didn't - I mean I could get a job I suppose, but by that point I already had other acceptances, and to sit around for a year doing a job I don't want to be doing wasn't very appealing so I withdrew.  For my waitlist at least it said they could have an expedited response by April 15, so like a two week turn around.  I think the whole letter was their way of saying "wooooops we'd like you to go but we ran out of room, so why don't you waste a year of your life and sit around waiting for us so you can come next year" - no thanks ;)
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: katedennis on April 28, 2006, 08:44:37 AM
I'm at work, and don't have my letters in front of me, but here's what I remember: my original hold letter specified that if I wanted to submit an updated transcript or essay, that needed to be in by March 3. 

My waitlist letter emphasized that the list is not ranked, but instead they consider factors like GPA, LSAT, geography, work experience, etc to augment and assemble a diverse class.  It had 3 options for me: stay on the waitlist, withdraw, or stay under consideration until fall of 20__.  If I selected that option, I was supposed to fill in a date, obviously, and then tell them what I intended to do for that/those year/s.  (there were no suggestions, but I think it was implied that if you were going to drink a lot of beer, play a lot of video games, and maybe work retail, it wouldn't reflect well on you in 20__)

I didn't pay too much attention bc I knew I wasn't waiting around for them.  If you have more specific questions, I can answer them later from home, when I'm looking at the actual letters.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: defeatist on April 28, 2006, 08:46:06 AM
I never understood the mentality of people who say they want to work as a paralegal before LS to "save up some money."  I don't see the point in working for 2 years at 45-50k a year, when you could just go to school first and come out making 145k plus bonus. 

I've been out of school for several years, and living rather comfortably for the past couple of years. I wish I had a little more of a nest egg -- it would be nice to be able to maintain my current lifestyle while in law school, rather than dropping back down to a "poor student" level of subsistence. Having a little cash on hand going into law school could make the experience a little easier.



Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: TheRenegade on April 28, 2006, 11:10:08 PM
I was deferred a few months ago and got moved onto the waitlist today. . . so they're starting to move through the holds. Plus if it makes anyone feel better I didn't supplement my application at all so I think they may have had more people withdraw than they had expected.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: defeatist on April 29, 2006, 11:10:24 AM
On the UChicago Applicant Forum, there's all kinds of wild speculation flying around -- some waitlisted people have gotten emails which seem to imply that there are acceptances coming next week. Some of those waitlisted people were just moved from hold to the waitlist this week.

No idea what this means for those of us who are still on hold, and not on the waitlist.

My theory is that they're looking hard at people who didn't send in additional materials or letters, and trying to gauge their interest in the acceptances that might come next week. People on hold who sent in good essays and letters are still in good shape, as are people on the waitlist who still show interest.  That's just my theory.

Chicago traditionally has a low yield, but they've been saying it's way up this year, based on attendance at admitted student events. I have a feeling that the yield wasn't as high as it looked at first.

This is all of course, a way for me to get my hopes up, so they can be more thoroughly crushed later.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: ipwannabe on April 29, 2006, 11:19:20 AM
where can i find the info i need to gain access to the applicant bulletin board?  i no longer have my original email from chicago.....

thanks!!
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: Steve.jd on April 29, 2006, 11:20:13 AM
On the UChicago Applicant Forum, there's all kinds of wild speculation flying around -- some waitlisted people have gotten emails which seem to imply that there are acceptances coming next week. Some of those waitlisted people were just moved from hold to the waitlist this week.

No idea what this means for those of us who are still on hold, and not on the waitlist.

My theory is that they're looking hard at people who didn't send in additional materials or letters, and trying to gauge their interest in the acceptances that might come next week. People on hold who sent in good essays and letters are still in good shape, as are people on the waitlist who still show interest.  That's just my theory.

Chicago traditionally has a low yield, but they've been saying it's way up this year, based on attendance at admitted student events. I have a feeling that the yield wasn't as high as it looked at first.

This is all of course, a way for me to get my hopes up, so they can be more thoroughly crushed later.

Good luck defeatist! :)

Chicago's yield is unlikely to be much higher than usual (although what the heck do I know).
Most people I've talked to about their yield implied they lose a lot to NYU/CLS because they are in New York, NYC > Chicago.  So as long as NYC > Chicago, and CCN are roughly equivalent, they will continue to have a low yield IMO.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: ipwannabe on April 29, 2006, 11:35:40 AM
i think the only problem is that if i got into chicago i would die of happiness and then be unable to attend (as i would have just died from happiness)

this waiting game is torture
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: defeatist on May 01, 2006, 03:19:39 PM
So as of today on LSN, there are only 4 (plus 2 withdrawn) people above Chicago's 75th %-ile LSAT still on "hold".  (see here (http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/search_schools.php?action=search&school_code=0021&lsat1=172&status=8&cycle=3))

Sure, this might look good for the defeatist, but I think it means there's an apologetic, but depressing, letter waiting for me in my mailbox when I get home.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: defeatist on May 01, 2006, 05:46:07 PM
Well, it's clear to me now that either Chicago is gleefully stringing me along ("Ha ha!  This guy still probably thinks he has a chance!  Let's hang onto his application for another month, see if we can wring ALL of his dignity out!") or my mailman has stolen my rejection letter. 

I guess it's also possible that they (the admissions office and the Chicago-area USPS) are in cahoots.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: defeatist on May 16, 2006, 03:35:37 PM
I guess it's also possible that they (the admissions office and the Chicago-area USPS) are in cahoots.

Confirmed!  It took 11 days for my waitlist notification to travel the 15 miles to my house. That's about 0.05 MPH.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: katedennis on May 18, 2006, 07:18:45 AM
I guess it's also possible that they (the admissions office and the Chicago-area USPS) are in cahoots.

Confirmed!  It took 11 days for my waitlist notification to travel the 15 miles to my house. That's about 0.05 MPH.


Oh defeatist, you are hysterical.  (Hysterically funny, not hysterical-unstable...although maybe that too.)  Good luck getting off the waitlist, and I hope you LOVED Paris as much as I did last year.
Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: defeatist on May 18, 2006, 08:29:40 AM
Hold in there! Write them a letter telling them why you love the school and would definitely attend if admitted.

Yet another letter. I've sent more love letters to Chicago in the last three months than I've sent to my actual lover in the last three years. Maybe for this one, I'll dab a little perfume on the stationery.

Oh defeatist, you are hysterical.  (Hysterically funny, not hysterical-unstable...although maybe that too.)

Oh, definitely that too. My brain has pretty much been turned to mush by this whole process.


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Good luck getting off the waitlist, and I hope you LOVED Paris as much as I did last year.

Paris was really nice, and I got a lot of reading done there in the cafes -- very relaxing, or at least as relaxing as possible under the circumstances.

As for the waitlist, I'm trying really hard not to get my hopes up. Maybe it's time to re-read Candide.

Title: Re: UChicago Hold
Post by: defeatist on May 22, 2006, 08:32:31 PM
Hey, did anyone who had been deferred by Chicago actually get offered admission? As far as I can tell, they didn't admit anyone straight from "hold" status. At least on LSN, there aren't any "Def, Accepted" so far.

Does anyone else think that's cheesy? It's a little crummy to make it sound like there's a chance of admission, ask for new materials and a fancy new three-page essay, and then not take ANYONE, right? If there weren't any open spots in the class, putting people on hold was just cruel.