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Title: What are you reading right now?
Post by: LittleRussianPrincess, Esq. on December 30, 2005, 07:56:33 PM
I'm one of those people that reads multiple books at once.  Right now I am reading Why Men Love Bitches by Sherry Argov and Paradise by Toni Morrison
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: orlando jackson on December 30, 2005, 07:58:48 PM
i just graduated, so i have plenty of time to read all day.  right now i'm on the rise of theodore roosevelt.  he's the man.
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Post by: 12(e) on December 30, 2005, 08:01:12 PM
Deamons Don't Dream
The Dictionary of Modern English Usage
Euphemisms: 3,000 ways to avoid being rude or giving offense

Sadly, I've just finished the bulk of my new books, so I'll have to go shopping again soon....
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Post by: j.rosh on December 30, 2005, 08:04:00 PM
Cute pic Ruskie.  That Why Men Love Bitches sounds like a pretty good read.
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Post by: LittleRussianPrincess, Esq. on December 30, 2005, 08:07:39 PM
Cute pic Ruskie.  That Why Men Love Bitches sounds like a pretty good read.

Thanks! How have you been?

It's an okay book.  It's really a tired theme, I think. That Rules book is the same principle.  The female dog book is a little less extreme and is more witty, but is generally nothing that isn't painfully obvious to the non-desperate women out there.  If you're not desparate, you know not to follow the guy around like a lost puppy, call him 28 times a day and give him a pet name on the first date. 
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Post by: j.rosh on December 30, 2005, 08:34:59 PM
I've been great.  I just picked up Confessions by a Video Vixen but I haven't begun reading it yet-should be interesting.
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Post by: LittleRussianPrincess, Esq. on December 30, 2005, 08:58:40 PM
I really wasn't a fan of Morrison's Paradise.  Oprah needs to pick better books. ;)  Right now I just purchased "The World is Flat", "Freakonomics", and "Life of PI".

And yes, I know I'm way behind on reading, but during school it's tough to motivate myself to read for pleasure between the long reading assignments, class, activities/clubs, and my part-time job.

I just started, so I don't have a good sense of the book yet, but it seems to be well written and in line with her usual style and quality.  Without giving away anything about the plot, could you tell me why you didn't like the book?  Have you read her other books and liked any of them?
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Post by: LittleRussianPrincess, Esq. on December 30, 2005, 09:00:25 PM
I've been great.  I just picked up Confessions by a Video Vixen but I haven't begun reading it yet-should be interesting.
Yeah, I guess a reader shouldn't expect elevated language from her, but I suspect she more than delivers when it comes to scandal, gossip and sex.  Let me know what you think of it and if you recommend it to others when you're done.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on December 30, 2005, 09:00:43 PM
I really wasn't a fan of Morrison's Paradise.  Oprah needs to pick better books. ;)  Right now I just purchased "The World is Flat", "Freakonomics", and "Life of PI".

And yes, I know I'm way behind on reading, but during school it's tough to motivate myself to read for pleasure between the long reading assignments, class, activities/clubs, and my part-time job.

World is Flat + Freakonomics are both awesome :)

I have not read the "Life of PI" - let me know if thats any good  8)

Currently reading:   "1776"
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: LittleRussianPrincess, Esq. on December 30, 2005, 09:16:10 PM
I really wasn't a fan of Morrison's Paradise.  Oprah needs to pick better books. ;)  Right now I just purchased "The World is Flat", "Freakonomics", and "Life of PI".

And yes, I know I'm way behind on reading, but during school it's tough to motivate myself to read for pleasure between the long reading assignments, class, activities/clubs, and my part-time job.

I just started, so I don't have a good sense of the book yet, but it seems to be well written and in line with her usual style and quality.  Without giving away anything about the plot, could you tell me why you didn't like the book?  Have you read her other books and liked any of them?

No, I'm afraid I haven't read any of her other books.  I just found her style and the story to be subpar.  Needless to say, it isn't the type of book I usually read so that probably had quite a bit to do with it.


World is Flat + Freakonomics are both awesome :)

I have not read the "Life of PI" - let me know if thats any good  8)

Currently reading:   "1776"

I'll let you know -- it might be a while until I get to it though.  I've only heard good things about it.  You'll have to let me know what you think of 1776 once you're finished.


Hmm, I guess it could be a matter of taste, but her style has been universally recognized as deep, unique and culturally relevant in the literary world.  She employs some magical realism in most of her books (don't know if she does in this one, as I haven't gotten far enough into it) and that tends to be a literary technique a lot of people just don't get, don't enjoy or both.  Personally, I think she's amazing.  Paradise, Sula and Jazz are the only three books of hers that I have not read and I picked up all of them at the book store today.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: SCgrad on December 30, 2005, 09:46:59 PM
The Federalist Papers

It is hard cause I have to read everything at least twice. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on December 30, 2005, 09:49:26 PM
The Federalist Papers

It is hard cause I have to read everything at least twice. 

The Federalist Papers are cool - you're reading them for fun correct?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: SCgrad on December 30, 2005, 09:51:13 PM
I'm reading them because I want to (not in school now) but I wouldn't call it fun  ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on December 30, 2005, 09:52:13 PM
I'm reading them because I want to (not in school now) but I wouldn't call it fun  ;)

Not fun!!???

How can dense as hell essays by Madison, Hamilton, and Jay not be FUN

That is CRAZY talk
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: SCgrad on December 30, 2005, 09:55:08 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: StepUpT0theMike on December 30, 2005, 10:01:37 PM
I started Waiting for the Barbarians by Coetzee this morning.  I'm only halfway through, but I'm already loving it.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on December 30, 2005, 10:49:25 PM
Yeager An Autobiography by General Chuck Yeager & Leo Janos.

A very interesting life.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Oilguzzler on December 30, 2005, 11:00:41 PM
I read Richard Hofstadter's "Anti-Intellecualism in American Life" not long ago just for kicks. Hofstadter is not my type politically, but still much of what he has to say is compelling. Hard to believe that our parents generation, he would consider growing up in an anti-intellectual country.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on December 30, 2005, 11:04:09 PM
I read Richard Hofstadter's "Anti-Intellecualism in American Life" not long ago just for kicks. Hofstadter is not my type politically, but still much of what he has to say is compelling. Hard to believe that our parents generation, he would consider growing up in an anti-intellectual country.

I consider our generation growing up in an anti-intellectual country ;)

jsia  ::)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: r. on December 30, 2005, 11:58:23 PM
The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon. Good stuff.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on December 31, 2005, 12:00:05 AM
The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon. Good stuff.

That book is a monster...haha...I havn't even attempted it

Collapse by Jared Diamond

Another good choice :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: r. on December 31, 2005, 12:01:48 AM
The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon. Good stuff.

That book is a monster...haha...I havn't even attempted it



This is my second attempt at it. I think I shall fail this time too, but it is so damn good.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on December 31, 2005, 12:13:06 AM
The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon. Good stuff.

I'm 2/3 through the abridged version, great book.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on December 31, 2005, 02:54:32 AM
50 degrees below, kim stanley robinsone (1/3rd done)
the system of the world, neal stephenson (1/2 done, lost for 3 months)
blindness, jose saramago (1/8th done, amazing)
1L, turow (just started)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on December 31, 2005, 06:14:57 AM
Preppy Handbook
The Bell Jar (3rd time)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on December 31, 2005, 08:09:10 AM
I read Richard Hofstadter's "Anti-Intellecualism in American Life" not long ago just for kicks. Hofstadter is not my type politically, but still much of what he has to say is compelling. Hard to believe that our parents generation, he would consider growing up in an anti-intellectual country.

I had to read Hofstadter in high school (AP US History). Not going there again if I have the choice. :)

I'm a lit major, so my reading is all over the place (and multiple books at once... I get bored easily). currently:

Foer, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (or maybe it's Extremely CLose and Incredibly Loud. I always get them confused.)
Sowell, Race and Culture (Thomas Sowell is awesome)
Wilsey, Oh the Glory of It All
Gerard Manley Hopkins (various poetry)

And LSD personal statements galore.  ;D

maggs
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: vegemitemama on December 31, 2005, 08:59:27 AM
Scotty, 1L is a WASTE OF TIME. I told you that already. :-\

And I'm reading brain fluff: Harry Potter #6. My head couldn't take anything more difficult than that at this point.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: vegemitemama on December 31, 2005, 09:09:53 AM
SW, I HATED it. So much. It was definitely overdramatized. Turow, it turns out, is a total nutcase. I mean, the guy needs medication or something. Seriously, he just went over the deep end. I guess my thing is that I'd rather read something informative, and that was NOT. I mean, I was expecting something that would be helpful, y'know?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on December 31, 2005, 01:59:05 PM
Informative like Harry Potter #6...heh
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Post by: SWM on December 31, 2005, 02:03:05 PM
Emma
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: vegemitemama on December 31, 2005, 02:29:08 PM
Informative like Harry Potter #6...heh

I meant when I go to read something I think is informative, it had better be that way. HP is for my brain mush right now.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on December 31, 2005, 02:34:57 PM
i usually only have 1 book at a time.

but recently i've been multitasking.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Poster on December 31, 2005, 04:58:14 PM
i went on an existential reading binge the last few weeks now that ive had time over my vacation. i even re-read a few things.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: vegemitemama on January 01, 2006, 09:38:31 AM
Speaking of KT, where the heck has she been? I was laying in bed at like 4 this morning thinking about her...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 01, 2006, 08:25:05 PM
oh you were, were you?

 :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 01, 2006, 08:25:30 PM
but to answer your question, she was out in arizona for the holidays.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 01, 2006, 11:53:09 PM
a) we know that veg likes girls
b) we know that veg likes me.
c) we know that kates is a girl who looks like she could be my sibling

conclusion- she wanted variety.

*ducks*
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 02, 2006, 12:00:57 AM
or i'm just quicker than you :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Grape Drink on January 02, 2006, 12:16:07 AM
-Ray Monk's biography of Wittgenstein
-Bruce Ackerman's "We The People" (those of y'all going to Yale should take a class with this dude)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: vegemitemama on January 02, 2006, 02:57:27 AM
a) we know that veg likes girls
b) we know that veg likes me.
c) we know that kates is a girl who looks like she could be my sibling

conclusion- she wanted variety.

*ducks*

::)

And now I'm reading Confessions of an Eco-Warrior.
<3's for Dave Foreman.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on January 02, 2006, 11:23:53 AM

And I had a great new year's day, because I got to spend it with hubby!  WOO HOO!!!!!!



That's touching... :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 02, 2006, 02:17:12 PM
note the source.

if that was me, it'd be sarcastic.

but freak is a way better person than me.
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Post by: skaiserbrown on January 02, 2006, 07:42:32 PM
hahaha, i saw those!
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Post by: Freak on January 02, 2006, 11:39:52 PM
Ya never know when I may morph, but no that was cute.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on January 03, 2006, 07:21:32 PM
I bought Wicked today and ma 200 pgs in and find it marvelous
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 03, 2006, 07:32:43 PM
wicked is good.

but the ugly stepsister (i think that's the one) is better.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on January 04, 2006, 07:44:01 AM
I didn't like Wicked until I was finished (the book that is - the musical is super fun)

I really didn't like Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister.  I kept hoping it would redeem itself in the end, but alas, it did not.  Definitely not my style.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: be10dwn on January 04, 2006, 07:48:28 AM
I am reading His Excellency George Washington by Joseph Ellis
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Post by: Vannabunny on January 04, 2006, 08:02:20 AM
wicked is good.

but the ugly stepsister (i think that's the one) is better.

After I finished Wicked, and Son of Witch, that's next on my reading list
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 04, 2006, 02:32:57 PM
I truly believe Gregory Maguire is overrated. So he's writing modern twists on fairy tales. Big deal.

I like Jasper Fforde's "revisions of basic mythology/literature" books much better.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 04, 2006, 02:42:00 PM
"Watson' s Apology" by Beryl Bainbridge. That woman can WRITE. I envy anyone who has yet to discover "Every Man for Himself" and "The Birthday Boys"...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on January 04, 2006, 02:42:47 PM
I like that he's writing the tales from a different perspective, but my problem with him is that he doesn't write them well, IMO
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 04, 2006, 02:48:11 PM
I like that he's writing the tales from a different perspective, but my problem with him is that he doesn't write them well, IMO

Writing well should matter for a writer.  :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 04, 2006, 02:59:17 PM
I like that he's writing the tales from a different perspective, but my problem with him is that he doesn't write them well, IMO

TITCR
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: orlando jackson on January 04, 2006, 06:37:15 PM
just finished the teddy roosevelt bio i mentioned earlier, now i'm on Shamans, Software and Spleens by James Boyle
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 06, 2006, 07:37:27 AM
"War Memorials" by Clint McCown. He's this completely unknown creative writing prof somewhere in the mid-West, I think, who writes novels as though they were short stories--clean, succinct, beautifully descriptive and clever. I love how every sentence is necessary... not in the Hemingway style of terseness, however, where the economy is almost clinically impersonal... more like Thoreau--simple, but poetic.

maggs
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: vegemitemama on January 06, 2006, 09:30:09 AM
Thoreau might be deliberate, but he was also a nutcase.

js. :)
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Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 12:54:57 PM
"War Memorials" by Clint McCown. He's this completely unknown creative writing prof somewhere in the mid-West, I think, who writes novels as though they were short stories--clean, succinct, beautifully descriptive and clever. I love how every sentence is necessary... not in the Hemingway style of terseness, however, where the economy is almost clinically impersonal... more like Thoreau--simple, but poetic.

maggs

JM Coetzee has been doing this for years.  "Disgrace" was clinical yet melodic.  But I like McCown's work as well.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 12:57:19 PM
"War Memorials" by Clint McCown. He's this completely unknown creative writing prof somewhere in the mid-West, I think, who writes novels as though they were short stories--clean, succinct, beautifully descriptive and clever. I love how every sentence is necessary... not in the Hemingway style of terseness, however, where the economy is almost clinically impersonal... more like Thoreau--simple, but poetic.

maggs

JM Coetzee has been doing this for years.  "Disgrace" was clinical yet melodic.  But I like McCown's work as well.


Coetzee = overrated. Galgut = better: even more concise.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 01:04:27 PM
"War Memorials" by Clint McCown. He's this completely unknown creative writing prof somewhere in the mid-West, I think, who writes novels as though they were short stories--clean, succinct, beautifully descriptive and clever. I love how every sentence is necessary... not in the Hemingway style of terseness, however, where the economy is almost clinically impersonal... more like Thoreau--simple, but poetic.

maggs

JM Coetzee has been doing this for years.  "Disgrace" was clinical yet melodic.  But I like McCown's work as well.


Coetzee = overrated. Galgut = better: even more concise.

Disagree.  Earlier Coetzee, perhaps, but over the last decade, he's been outstanding. 

If you didn't like Disgrace, that's understandable: the themes are very specific to the South African situation, even if they do generalize well to humanity as a whole. 

Haven't read any Galgut.  Anything you can recommend?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on January 06, 2006, 01:07:01 PM
No offense, Ruskie, and this is not directed at you specifically, but that particular term annoys the crap out of me.

"Utilize", "use", "employ", you name it.  Those terms are inaccurate and overcooked.  Good writers don't "employ" techniques - they make certain aspects part of their stories.  She didn't write the book thinking, "Hey, some magical realism over here would really get my point across."  No, she wrote a novel that fit her interests and aspirations.  It just so happens that magical realism is prevalent within this work.

I know that hermeneutic analysis requires us to understand what techniques the author "uses", and this is probably what you were getting at.  However, I hope, for one, that the terminology, specifically the verbs people use, will change.  Authors don't "employ" techniques.  They don't harangue them from somewhere out in the cosmos and force them into their syntax.  There is an organic process at work, even if the technique was overtly intentional. 

Saying "magical realism is prevalent" is much different from saying "she employs magical realism".  That's the differentiation I'm working towards.  Especially for a "technique" that is, in many ways, a genre in itself. 

Or maybe I just really love Marquez.


you know, that's always bothered me too.  Especially when english teachers insist that every author "employs symbolism."  My ass. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 06, 2006, 01:17:48 PM
And I've yet to ever read a book for school. 
 

Is that possible?

And if so, what was the point of going to school, then? To socialize? God forbid you should actually read.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 01:21:00 PM
No offense, Ruskie, and this is not directed at you specifically, but that particular term annoys the crap out of me.

"Utilize", "use", "employ", you name it.  Those terms are inaccurate and overcooked.  Good writers don't "employ" techniques - they make certain aspects part of their stories.  She didn't write the book thinking, "Hey, some magical realism over here would really get my point across."  No, she wrote a novel that fit her interests and aspirations.  It just so happens that magical realism is prevalent within this work.

I know that hermeneutic analysis requires us to understand what techniques the author "uses", and this is probably what you were getting at.  However, I hope, for one, that the terminology, specifically the verbs people use, will change.  Authors don't "employ" techniques.  They don't harangue them from somewhere out in the cosmos and force them into their syntax.  There is an organic process at work, even if the technique was overtly intentional. 

Saying "magical realism is prevalent" is much different from saying "she employs magical realism".  That's the differentiation I'm working towards.  Especially for a "technique" that is, in many ways, a genre in itself. 

Or maybe I just really love Marquez.


you know, that's always bothered me too.  Especially when english teachers insist that every author "employs symbolism."  My ass. 

Beautiful.  That's my favorite redundancy of the lot. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 01:23:27 PM
I find that, when there are other things to do, I have to force myself not to read.  I get very carried away with fiction, and I'll drop my entire life just to read.  Unfortunately, I also have a business to run and school to attend right now. 

But I miss my fiction.  I hope I get some good books for my classes so I don't feel guilty about reading.  hahahaha
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 06, 2006, 01:25:43 PM
Yes, it is possible, obviously.

I've never needed to read the actual textbooks assigned to the course.  On occasion I have flipped through them to look up a term or something, but that's it. 

I read tons, I've been reading since I was three, I just read what I want to, not crap I'm not particularly interested in. 

If you go to class and pay attention and participate, you shouldn't need the book.  Unless you're stupid. 

I misunderstood. I don't really consider textbooks as books. I thought you meant the additional texts (e.g., novels for papers, etc.).
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Groundhog on January 06, 2006, 01:26:44 PM
My classes don't work anywhere near like that, obviously.

Anyway, I finished One L the other day, and am going to pick up the standard Brush With The Law, Law School Confidential, etc. package sometime today.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 01:26:57 PM


Disagree.  Earlier Coetzee, perhaps, but over the last decade, he's been outstanding. 

If you didn't like Disgrace, that's understandable: the themes are very specific to the South African situation, even if they do generalize well to humanity as a whole. 

Haven't read any Galgut.  Anything you can recommend?

[/quote]

Great thing about taste in books is that we can dsagree and both be right. Coetzee is affected: Disgrace is trite. (Yes, I understand that it is supposed to be specific to the RSA experience, whatever THAT is). Galgut treads the same territory, but more sure-footedly. Try "The Quarry"; it'll blow your socks off.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 01:30:05 PM
No offense, Ruskie, and this is not directed at you specifically, but that particular term annoys the crap out of me.

"Utilize", "use", "employ", you name it.  Those terms are inaccurate and overcooked.  Good writers don't "employ" techniques - they make certain aspects part of their stories.  She didn't write the book thinking, "Hey, some magical realism over here would really get my point across."  No, she wrote a novel that fit her interests and aspirations.  It just so happens that magical realism is prevalent within this work.

I know that hermeneutic analysis requires us to understand what techniques the author "uses", and this is probably what you were getting at.  However, I hope, for one, that the terminology, specifically the verbs people use, will change.  Authors don't "employ" techniques.  They don't harangue them from somewhere out in the cosmos and force them into their syntax.  There is an organic process at work, even if the technique was overtly intentional. 

Saying "magical realism is prevalent" is much different from saying "she employs magical realism".  That's the differentiation I'm working towards.  Especially for a "technique" that is, in many ways, a genre in itself. 

Or maybe I just really love Marquez.


you know, that's always bothered me too.  Especially when english teachers insist that every author "employs symbolism."  My ass. 

What's that? Authors like Marquez don't employ/use symbolism? It is just "prevalent" in their work? You mean like by accident?  ???
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 01:33:41 PM


Disagree.  Earlier Coetzee, perhaps, but over the last decade, he's been outstanding. 

If you didn't like Disgrace, that's understandable: the themes are very specific to the South African situation, even if they do generalize well to humanity as a whole. 

Haven't read any Galgut.  Anything you can recommend?


Great thing about taste in books is that we can dsagree and both be right. Coetzee is affected: Disgrace is trite. (Yes, I understand that it is supposed to be specific to the RSA experience, whatever THAT is). Galgut treads the same territory, but more sure-footedly. Try "The Quarry"; it'll blow your socks off.
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You can't call something trite if you don't understand it.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 01:39:16 PM

"The South African Experience" is a multifaceted thing - it is many things, not one. That's what I meant. I understand it/them well enough.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on January 06, 2006, 01:40:13 PM
Yes, it is possible, obviously.

I've never needed to read the actual textbooks assigned to the course.  On occasion I have flipped through them to look up a term or something, but that's it. 

I read tons, I've been reading since I was three, I just read what I want to, not crap I'm not particularly interested in. 

If you go to class and pay attention and participate, you shouldn't need the book.  Unless you're stupid. 

I misunderstood. I don't really consider textbooks as books. I thought you meant the additional texts (e.g., novels for papers, etc.).


I'm an engineer so all I have are textbooks for school related stuff...most people don't read them, and you can certainly get by and do well without reading.  I've always read them, and I think reading them is the difference between a B+/A- student and a solid A student...

jsia...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: jbs on January 06, 2006, 01:44:08 PM
i am convinced i have ADD!   ;D  i am currently reading four books: Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand, Pieces of Me - Tori Amos, Beyond Chuztpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History - Norman G. Finkelstein, and Planet Law School II - Atticus Falcon, Esq.

i am always so bogged down by school material that when i finally do have the chance to read for leisure i soak up as much as i can!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on January 06, 2006, 01:56:57 PM
Yes, it is possible, obviously.

I've never needed to read the actual textbooks assigned to the course.  On occasion I have flipped through them to look up a term or something, but that's it. 

I read tons, I've been reading since I was three, I just read what I want to, not crap I'm not particularly interested in. 

If you go to class and pay attention and participate, you shouldn't need the book.  Unless you're stupid. 

I misunderstood. I don't really consider textbooks as books. I thought you meant the additional texts (e.g., novels for papers, etc.).


I'm an engineer so all I have are textbooks for school related stuff...most people don't read them, and you can certainly get by and do well without reading.  I've always read them, and I think reading them is the difference between a B+/A- student and a solid A student...

jsia...

I must be the exception to this rule...

Not that there's anything wrong with being a B+ A- student.

jsia. 

Its not so much a rule as a correlation, with obvious exceptions,

and no theres nothing wrong with a B+/A- student, unless you want to go to a T6 school.. :-\
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 02:01:37 PM
or if you have a pathological desire to be perfect.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 06, 2006, 02:02:01 PM
Coetzee is affected: Disgrace is trite.

Agreed. Disgrace may be superficially concerned with SA issues, but if you look at the narrative, it's from the wholly alienated perspective of an middle/upper-class white guy. It could be anywhere. The only SA influence I perceived where in various bare-bones descriptions. My impression was that he merely transplanted the traditional "orientalism" into an African context.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 02:05:25 PM

"The South African Experience" is a multifaceted thing - it is many things, not one. That's what I meant. I understand it/them well enough.

Then, please, by all means, explain some.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on January 06, 2006, 02:06:26 PM
Does that even exist?

If they have an A LSAT, they'll be just fine anywhere, the damn whores  >:(

True enough, but if you have an A gpa maybe you could by with an A- LSAT

 :D :D :D

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 02:10:57 PM
an A LSAT would technically be a 164/165.

so we're talking A+ and A++ here.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 06, 2006, 02:12:17 PM

"The South African Experience" is a multifaceted thing - it is many things, not one. That's what I meant. I understand it/them well enough.

Then, please, by all means, explain some.


I think you're going to need more than the 100,000 character message limit for that.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: vegemitemama on January 06, 2006, 02:13:41 PM

"The South African Experience" is a multifaceted thing - it is many things, not one. That's what I meant. I understand it/them well enough.

Then, please, by all means, explain some.


Hehe.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 02:19:48 PM
admiral ackbar: "It's a trap!"
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 02:25:07 PM

"The South African Experience" is a multifaceted thing - it is many things, not one. That's what I meant. I understand it/them well enough.

Then, please, by all means, explain some.


Boer/Anglo/Ndebele/Xhosa/Zulu..... Urban/rural/suburban.....  Cape experience not same as Transvaal exp.... Farmer/Banker/Professor  Not everyone in RSA loves cricket; not every white South African in the 80s was a racist. Nothing exceptional about RSA: like many other countries (incl this one) it is not one society, but many - held together by a shred. There is, to put it plainly, no such thing as South Africa.

One of the problems that I have with Coetzee, apart from his lack of a style that one can call his own ("Barbarians" excepted) is the narrow-mindedness of his view of what, for the sake of discussion, we call "South Africa", and of South Africans...the south asian prostitute, the white liberal professor, the mute/brute black... All of his characters are the silliest sort of stereotypes. And all of this contrasts starkly with the scale of his ambitions.

Booker types, with an odd mix of patronizing condescension and undue respect for anyone who writes and is from the former empire, genuflect too quickly in his direction. His Lit Crit is good, his fiction is weak.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 02:28:15 PM
Coetzee is affected: Disgrace is trite.

Agreed. Disgrace may be superficially concerned with SA issues, but if you look at the narrative, it's from the wholly alienated perspective of an middle/upper-class white guy. It could be anywhere. The only SA influence I perceived where in various bare-bones descriptions. My impression was that he merely transplanted the traditional "orientalism" into an African context.


Jesus Christ.  What does this mean?

The perspective is ironic.  As such, it is crucial.  The "middle-class white guy" is necessarily alienated from a world he once ruled.  But, in South Africa, this is a particularly complex situation.  This isn't an Orientalist text.  It is, in every way, an ANTI-Orientalist text.  The protagonist realizes (despite his flights of fancy, his choice to live in a dreamworld) that this is HIM, this is HIS NATION, this is WHO HE IS, and that he must deal with it.  He is SOUTH AFRICAN, take it or leave it, just like everyone else around him.  The book, after all, is about his re-insertion into the world he inhabits, about his fall from grace, a fantasy he inhabited as a middle-class white, "above" others for so long, and further ingrained by his life's work (teaching Byron). 

I don't know how you could call the "SA influence" "bare-bones descriptions" when the book is fundamentally and wholly concerned with the state of the nation, post-apartheid.  When every single occurrence directly deals with current issues of importance in South Africa.  When every theme is race/class oriented, specific to the South African situation.  When the conclusion of the book is the only solution for a torn country: reconciliation.  I am South African.  I've never read an author that showed more awareness of the specific complexities of everyday relations in the nation than Coetzee does in Disgrace.  The text is an absolute masterpiece if cultural depth is the measure.  This isn't a novel about the township or the downtrodden black masses - those are noble projects in and of themselves, but they are different facets of the new South Africa, and ones you're likely to have encountered many times before. 

That said, you think the characters were accidents?  You think, for instance, the humiliation of a "Cape Colored" family differs from that of an obviously disconnected white professor?  (I mean, for GOD'S sakes, the guy is a Byron expert - he LIVES in a romantic world from which he's rudely jolted - did you miss this?)  Or do you not know what "Cape Colored" is?  Did you even know the girl with whom he slept was not white?  Do you understand why that would matter?

Agrarian land reform.  Paradigm shifts.  Violence.  The dissolution of race-based classes.  Poverty.  Even animal rights.  The new South Africa.  It's all there.  If you don't get that, I suggest you study the country a bit more closely first.

If you didn't like the book, that's fine.  But don't call it what it isn't.

And one more thing.  What the @#!* is wrong with the "alienated middle-class white perspective" anyway?  Are authors not allowed to write from this perspective anymore?  This isn't really targeted at you specifically.  I just hear this "criticism" way too often.  If you've got an interesting view on this, please share.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: vegemitemama on January 06, 2006, 02:35:22 PM
pwnt. js.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 02:40:10 PM

"The South African Experience" is a multifaceted thing - it is many things, not one. That's what I meant. I understand it/them well enough.

Then, please, by all means, explain some.


Boer/Anglo/Ndebele/Xhosa/Zulu..... Urban/rural/suburban.....  Cape experience not same as Transvaal exp.... Farmer/Banker/Professor  Not everyone in RSA loves cricket; not every white South African in the 80s was a racist. Nothing exceptional about RSA: like many other countries (incl this one) it is not one society, but many - held together by a shred. There is, to put it plainly, no such thing as South Africa.

One of the problems that I have with Coetzee, apart from his lack of a style that one can call his own ("Barbarians" excepted) is the narrow-mindedness of his view of what, for the sake of discussion, we call "South Africa", and of South Africans...the south asian prostitute, the white liberal professor, the mute/brute black... All of his characters are the silliest sort of stereotypes. And all of this contrasts starkly with the scale of his ambitions.

Booker types, with an odd mix of patronizing condescension and undue respect for anyone who writes and is from the former empire, genuflect too quickly in his direction. His Lit Crit is good, his fiction is weak.

See irony

PS:  Your first paragraph reads like a paraphrase from your Lit. Crit. or Comp. Lit. class, professor-provided, "context."  Which I suspect it is.  Nice job on the nouns. 

You see, I've lived both here and in South Africa.  The fact of the matter is, things ARE exceptional in South Africa.  It takes Coetzee's bitingly sarcastic prose to shake the middle-class white male (specifically, the educated English white male) from his life-long reverie. 

The "stereotypes" are such for a reason.  In fact, if you read all blacks as brutal (with the exception of the rapists, which, by the way, is a major problem in South Africa), then you misread Coetzee completely.  The point is exactly the opposite: that what appears to the culturally intolerant white person to be crass or brutal is, in fact, a way of being, an approach to life to which they must become accustomed in order to survive in a changing society. 

What Petrus does (that name in itself is ridiculously ironic) is not some trumped-up creation of Coetzee's: it's what's happening in South Africa right now.  The finger isn't being pointed at black people, it's being pointed at white people.  By creating such a weak protagonist, one who has literally fallen from "grace", Coetzee is basically saying, "WAKE UP, THIS IS YOU, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!"  Coetzee doesn't fault Petrus for his actions; rather, he faults his own protagonist for his reactions.  He ridicules the character's miscomprehension of the vagaries of the situation. 

That's just one example.

But, please, I'm still waiting for a cogent analysis of the new South Africa, if you've got one.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: EE Cummings on January 06, 2006, 02:41:46 PM
I am reading a Property Casebook in prep for Monday's class.

Oh the joy.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 02:49:17 PM
I'm afraid the problem is not that his characterizations (and, dare I say it, his use of symbolism) are accidental. If it/they were, it would be easier to overlook the problems with the book. I agree that they are central. I agree that his stance is intended to be ironic. It just fails, that's all: at least for me.

If he were to fail in a spectacular way - as, for example, Salman Rushdie repeatedly has after Midnight's Children - then at least that would be entertaining in a horrifying "what a @#!* up" kind-of-way. But, in the end, reading a book that has no stylistic merit about mundane issues (sorry, but the middle-aged white guy losing his place has been DONE!!), about an imaginary "nation" that does not exist, centered around people who (with the exception of the daughter) are not interesting - well, that is a waste of time.

Once again, I appreciate that you like him and his work. Many people do. I'll be democratic and say that you are more likely to be right about this than I
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 03:01:10 PM
See irony

PS:  Your first paragraph reads like a paraphrase from your Lit. Crit. or Comp. Lit. class, professor-provided, "context."  Which I suspect it is.  Nice job on the nouns. 

You see, I've lived both here and in South Africa.  The fact of the matter is, things ARE exceptional in South Africa.  It takes Coetzee's bitingly sarcastic prose to shake the middle-class white male (specifically, the educated English white male) from his life-long reverie. 

The "stereotypes" are such for a reason.  In fact, if you read all blacks as brutal (with the exception of the rapists, which, by the way, is a major problem in South Africa), then you misread Coetzee completely.  The point is exactly the opposite: that what appears to the culturally intolerant white person to be crass or brutal is, in fact, a way of being, an approach to life to which they must become accustomed in order to survive in a changing society. 

What Petrus does (that name in itself is ridiculously ironic) is not some trumped-up creation of Coetzee's: it's what's happening in South Africa right now.  The finger isn't being pointed at black people, it's being pointed at white people.  By creating such a weak protagonist, one who has literally fallen from "grace", Coetzee is basically saying, "WAKE UP, THIS IS YOU, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!"  Coetzee doesn't fault Petrus for his actions; rather, he faults his own protagonist for his reactions.  He ridicules the character's miscomprehension of the vagaries of the situation. 

That's just one example.

But, please, I'm still waiting for a cogent analysis of the new South Africa, if you've got one.


Do you honestly think that I would give you an opinion that was not my own?
You have lived in South Africa and I have not?
And whether either of us has or has not is relevant to this discussion? You are posting too quickly, faster than it takes to think.

Anyway, as you were. All I'd wanted to do was suggest Galgut to you, if you hadn't read him.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 06, 2006, 03:09:04 PM
Woohoo! Ok, I admit: as a South African, you have an infinetly better grasp of the politics. However, from a literary perspective (which I believe was the initial discussion), this is what I think:

My overwhelming impression of Disgrace was a recognition of the banality of Western suburban living. I expected elemental landscapes and accented miscommunication (literal and societal), but am greeted instead with a fading farmhouse and an animal shelter, confronted with conversations among many white people, but only one expressive (black) African. Only in very few moments do I glimpse a foreign landscape--the market, the multiple wives, the rape, the medallion-adorned storyteller. Those moments are jarring elements in an otherwise recognizable culture of  distant politics, personal confusion, and habitual adjustment. The novel, although ostensibly third person, is entirely from the vision of Lurie (aka alienated white guy), who is oblivious. Lurie's story--for it is his, truly--is about himself: his disgrace, his daughter, his supposed adjustment to the new South Africa. The South Africa that David sees is a hyperreal Africa, one which he has learned from his university politics and theory rather than true examination or honest experience. The major failing of the novel, however, is that he does nothing about that. I think his alienation is a vital element of his character and Coetzee's themes; however, unlike you, I don't think Lurie ever transcends it... he never relinquinshes his tight-fisted grasp of pre-conceived reality. For example: re: the rape, David's worries reveal more about his fears than Lucy's, the true victim. Despite the fact that he wasn't at the rape, he insists that it was retribution for a "history of wrongs," "from the ancestors"--a broad, impersonal action in which Lucy was an infortunate object, an explanation that fits perfectly with David's ideology-tinged persona.  Through Lucy's silence, David circled the event back to him, back to his actions, his understanding, not hers--reinforcement, not re-evaluation.

I think it's key that David's decision to euthanise the crippled dog is seen as his oh-so-important and climactic capitulation. The grand gesture is supposed to indicate a relinquishment of control--renouncing his role as "master" and whatnot. Yet, the act is so empty. There's no understanding, no knowledge gained from his relationship with the dog. It was there and now it's gone and he goes forward, essentially unchanged.

Basically, Lurie doesn't learn anything from his disgrace. His "apology" to the girl/student he sleeps with is a mockery of ritualistic sacrificial bowing, etc. He persists in his pathetic banjo-opera even despite his realization that it is pathetic.

How can this be an examination of the intracies of a culture when it is entirely from the perspective of a man who refuses to recognize or adapt to those complexities despite all indications that he should?

And one more thing.  What the @#!* is wrong with the "alienated middle-class white perspective" anyway?  Are authors not allowed to write from this perspective anymore?  This isn't really targeted at you specifically.  I just hear this "criticism" way too often.  If you've got an interesting view on this, please share.

The problem arises when the alienated white guy doesn't accomplish or learn anything as a result of recognizing that alienation.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 03:09:56 PM
I'm afraid the problem is not that his characterizations (and, dare I say it, his use of symbolism) are accidental. If it/they were, it would be easier to overlook the problems with the book. I agree that they are central. I agree that his stance is intended to be ironic. It just fails, that's all: at least for me.

This is fair enough.  You don't like his style.  That's fine.  It's the rest of your reasoning I'm criticizing.

If he were to fail in a spectacular way - as, for example, Salman Rushdie repeatedly has after Midnight's Children - then at least that would be entertaining in a horrifying "what a @#!* up" kind-of-way.

Agreed.

But, in the end, reading a book that has no stylistic merit about mundane issues (sorry, but the middle-aged white guy losing his place has been DONE!!),

No stylistic merit?  Arguable.  Mundane issues?  I just demonstrated how you misunderstand these issues.  You have not addressed them.

Furthermore, the argument that something's "been done" is trite.  Almost every approach has "been done"; it's the layering, the complexity of that approach, and its context, that matters.

about an imaginary "nation" that does not exist,

This is so ridiculous, it's laughable.  Unless you want to quibble about the semantics of "nation" (and if you do, there are some issues on which we'll agree), your dismissal of South Africa as a whole marks you as ignorant.  Whether this is intentional, we shall see.  Diverse?  Yes.  Uniform?  No.  A cultural complexity distinct from others around the world?  Yes.  Thank you, multi-ethnic settler culture, segregation, and, eventually, apartheid. 

centered around people who (with the exception of the daughter) are not interesting

If they're not interesting, that's your call.  This is a completely different statement from "they're the silliest of stereotypes", which they are not.

- well, that is a waste of time.

So, the imaginary novel you just pretended to understand is a waste of time.  Good work.

Once again, I appreciate that you like him and his work. Many people do. I'll be democratic and say that you are more likely to be right about this than I

Actually, I don't like that much of Coetzee's work.  This novel, however, was powerful.  It contained surprising depth; the insight and the author's exploration of the intricacies of this insight was phenomenal.  I've provided a superficial analysis already.  It's more than you've done.

Feel free to dislike it, as I've stated before.  However, if you're going to critically attack it, then at least have an argument.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 03:22:49 PM
Woohoo! Ok, I admit: as a South African, you have an infinetly better grasp of the politics. However, from a literary perspective (which I believe was the initial discussion), this is what I think:

My overwhelming impression of Disgrace was a recognition of the banality of Western suburban living. I expected elemental landscapes and accented miscommunication (literal and societal), but am greeted instead with a fading farmhouse and an animal shelter, confronted with conversations among many white people, but only one expressive (black) African. Only in very few moments do I glimpse a foreign landscape--the market, the multiple wives, the rape, the medallion-adorned storyteller. Those moments are jarring elements in an otherwise recognizable culture of  distant politics, personal confusion, and habitual adjustment. The novel, although ostensibly third person, is entirely from the vision of Lurie (aka alienated white guy), who is oblivious. Lurie's story--for it is his, truly--is about himself: his disgrace, his daughter, his supposed adjustment to the new South Africa. The South Africa that David sees is a hyperreal Africa, one which he has learned from his university politics and theory rather than true examination or honest experience. The major failing of the novel, however, is that he does nothing about that. I think his alienation is a vital element of his character and Coetzee's themes; however, unlike you, I don't think Lurie ever transcends it... he never relinquinshes his tight-fisted grasp of pre-conceived reality. For example: re: the rape, David's worries reveal more about his fears than Lucy's, the true victim. Despite the fact that he wasn't at the rape, he insists that it was retribution for a "history of wrongs," "from the ancestors"--a broad, impersonal action in which Lucy was an infortunate object, an explanation that fits perfectly with David's ideology-tinged persona.  Through Lucy's silence, David circled the event back to him, back to his actions, his understanding, not hers--reinforcement, not re-evaluation.

I think it's key that David's decision to euthanise the crippled dog is seen as his oh-so-important and climactic capitulation. The grand gesture is supposed to indicate a relinquishment of control--renouncing his role as "master" and whatnot. Yet, the act is so empty. There's no understanding, no knowledge gained from his relationship with the dog. It was there and now it's gone and he goes forward, essentially unchanged.

Basically, Lurie doesn't learn anything from his disgrace. His "apology" to the girl/student he sleeps with is a mockery of ritualistic sacrificial bowing, etc. He persists in his pathetic banjo-opera even despite his realization that it is pathetic.

How can this be an examination of the intracies of a culture when it is entirely from the perspective of a man who refuses to recognize or adapt to those complexities despite all indications that he should?

Brilliant.  This is awesome.  Clearly, from a literary perspective, you do understand the novel.  Yet, somehow, you miss the irony.

This isn't a novel about transcendence.  This isn't "this is your crappy world, now change it."  It's Coetzee's acerbic commentary on the continued self-indulgence of white, middle-class South Africa.

Lurie's eyes are opened to reality, and what does he do?  He tries to write a banal opera about nothing, hidden away from reality.  He runs away.  That's just it.  Coetzee's criticism in the novel is the same criticism you have of the novel: that people just like him (both the protagonist and the author) do nothing.  He ridicules the complacency and the farcical rationalizations of those like Lurie.  It's not a coincidence that Lurie's world revolves around other white people and threatening blacks.  That's the way many white people see South Africa: clearly, that is not the way it really is.  THAT'S the fundamental irony of this novel.

Realize?  Sure.  Repent?  Probably not.  Reform?  Never.  This is the attitude Coetzee addresses.  It's one that he clearly abhors (granted, I've read a lot of his critical essays as well).

And one more thing.  What the @#!* is wrong with the "alienated middle-class white perspective" anyway?  Are authors not allowed to write from this perspective anymore?  This isn't really targeted at you specifically.  I just hear this "criticism" way too often.  If you've got an interesting view on this, please share.

The problem arises when the alienated white guy doesn't accomplish or learn anything as a result of recognizing that alienation.

Incorrect.  He doesn't need to for the novel to be effective, as Disgrace demonstrates.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 06, 2006, 03:34:02 PM
 
 You are posting too quickly, faster than it takes to think.

I guess that makes me faster than a speeding bullet, or something.  If you can't process this quickly, then too bad.


Perhaps your blazing intelligence may be a bit difficult to reconcile with your decidely, um, intellectual avator.  ;D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 03:38:20 PM
 
 You are posting too quickly, faster than it takes to think.

I guess that makes me faster than a speeding bullet, or something.  If you can't process this quickly, then too bad.


Perhaps your blazing intelligence may be a bit difficult to reconcile with your decidely, um, intellectual avator.  ;D

 :D :D :D

Nah, my intelligence is definitely not "blazing," nor am I implying such.  I just think that statement is vapid given the lack of substantive response to my posts.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 03:39:35 PM
i am so out of this thread.

 :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 03:40:04 PM
Woohoo! Ok, I admit: as a South African, you have an infinetly better grasp of the politics. However, from a literary perspective (which I believe was the initial discussion), this is what I think:

My overwhelming impression of Disgrace was a recognition of the banality of Western suburban living. I expected elemental landscapes and accented miscommunication (literal and societal), but am greeted instead with a fading farmhouse and an animal shelter, confronted with conversations among many white people, but only one expressive (black) African. Only in very few moments do I glimpse a foreign landscape--the market, the multiple wives, the rape, the medallion-adorned storyteller. Those moments are jarring elements in an otherwise recognizable culture of  distant politics, personal confusion, and habitual adjustment. The novel, although ostensibly third person, is entirely from the vision of Lurie (aka alienated white guy), who is oblivious. Lurie's story--for it is his, truly--is about himself: his disgrace, his daughter, his supposed adjustment to the new South Africa. The South Africa that David sees is a hyperreal Africa, one which he has learned from his university politics and theory rather than true examination or honest experience. The major failing of the novel, however, is that he does nothing about that. I think his alienation is a vital element of his character and Coetzee's themes; however, unlike you, I don't think Lurie ever transcends it... he never relinquinshes his tight-fisted grasp of pre-conceived reality. For example: re: the rape, David's worries reveal more about his fears than Lucy's, the true victim. Despite the fact that he wasn't at the rape, he insists that it was retribution for a "history of wrongs," "from the ancestors"--a broad, impersonal action in which Lucy was an infortunate object, an explanation that fits perfectly with David's ideology-tinged persona.  Through Lucy's silence, David circled the event back to him, back to his actions, his understanding, not hers--reinforcement, not re-evaluation.

I think it's key that David's decision to euthanise the crippled dog is seen as his oh-so-important and climactic capitulation. The grand gesture is supposed to indicate a relinquishment of control--renouncing his role as "master" and whatnot. Yet, the act is so empty. There's no understanding, no knowledge gained from his relationship with the dog. It was there and now it's gone and he goes forward, essentially unchanged.

Basically, Lurie doesn't learn anything from his disgrace. His "apology" to the girl/student he sleeps with is a mockery of ritualistic sacrificial bowing, etc. He persists in his pathetic banjo-opera even despite his realization that it is pathetic.

How can this be an examination of the intracies of a culture when it is entirely from the perspective of a man who refuses to recognize or adapt to those complexities despite all indications that he should?

And one more thing.  What the @#!* is wrong with the "alienated middle-class white perspective" anyway?  Are authors not allowed to write from this perspective anymore?  This isn't really targeted at you specifically.  I just hear this "criticism" way too often.  If you've got an interesting view on this, please share.

The problem arises when the alienated white guy doesn't accomplish or learn anything as a result of recognizing that alienation.

Yes, I agree with your analysis, Maggs. True enough, as J says, that Coetzee is indifferent to those kinds of resolutions. My sense is that he is trying to reflect "white" south africans' ambivalence toward to 'New South Africa' - not particularly contrite, not particularly nostalgic... life just, sort of, goes on as everyone (or, at least, those who haven't moved to Australia) tries to figure out what's going on.

The whole issue is so barren: as though this RSA experience is new to the world; as though these issues didn't play out in India or Kenya or Indonesia or in Algeria. It is a disease, particular to anglo-boer "south africans" that they feel themselves to be different in kind to the rest of us; their history and experiences, you see, are unique. Their pains are specific to them, never having been felt before. Perhaps it was the isolation of the embargo years that makes them feel this way.

No matter: if Disgrace were for a domestic audience, for the suburban housewives of Durban to read while their maids cleaned the house, I can imagine that there would be some merit in it: the frisson of recognition (the ugly black rapist, etc), but for the rest of us, for an international audience that knows better, that has more distance from the emotions involved, there needs to be a literary payoff. J is allowing me some discretion in choosing my own tastes, and I am excercising it by saying that narcissism, stick figures, and lack of style just doesn't do it for me.

In order to see clearly what is small about Coetzee, contrast his work with another author who took on the place where he is from: Marquez.

Go 'boks!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 03:44:50 PM
Oh, and I deny that a South African necessarily has a better grasp of the politics there than a non-South African. But, that's just an aside.

We should hand this thread back y'all - nobody cares about Coetzee. Fantasy books are more fun.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 06, 2006, 03:46:11 PM
redacted
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 03:46:50 PM
Oh, and I deny that a South African necessarily has a better grasp of the politics there than a non-South African. But, that's just an aside.

We should hand this thread back y'all - nobody cares about Coetzee. Fantasy books are more fun.

And I'd agree with that.  But I chose to study the country rather than fall under the same cultural indoctrinations that plagued most of my family and friends.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 03:49:52 PM
In order to see clearly what is small about Coetzee, contrast his work with another author who took on the place where he is from: Marquez.

Coetzee's work is like a desert compared to the carnivale of Marquez... :) I'm a fan. And I have no hesistations in admiring Rushdie, either, despite his failings. I actually wrote my sr thesis on Satanic Verses. Fun fun fun (for a lit nerd like myself).

GGM is an Original. Bit of a shame that so many have tried to imitate him. Have you read "Don't Let's Go to the Dogs Tonight", Maggs? I think you might enjoy that. It is authentic.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 03:51:17 PM
omfg.

i adore marquez.

finally someone i know something about.

good f-ing lord does he write pretty.

"love in the time of cholera" is my favorite book of the past year.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 03:54:18 PM
Yes, I agree with your analysis, Maggs. True enough, as J says, that Coetzee is indifferent to those kinds of resolutions. My sense is that he is trying to reflect "white" south africans' ambivalence toward to 'New South Africa' - not particularly contrite, not particularly nostalgic... life just, sort of, goes on as everyone (or, at least, those who haven't moved to Australia) tries to figure out what's going on.

Then, again, you've overlooked the intense (and very personal, given Coetzee's own background) irony of this particular depiction.

The whole issue is so barren: as though this RSA experience is new to the world; as though these issues didn't play out in India or Kenya or Indonesia or in Algeria. It is a disease, particular to anglo-boer "south africans" that they feel themselves to be different in kind to the rest of us; their history and experiences, you see, are unique. Their pains are specific to them, never having been felt before. Perhaps it was the isolation of the embargo years that makes them feel this way.

This is true, in many ways.  In any case, it's irrelevant to the intent of this novel. 

By the way, what does "anglo-boer" mean?  As if this is some culturally hegemonic entity?

And while similar issues played out all over the world, nowhere else was it so recent and so complicated.  Apartheid isn't the same colonialism that died out over the rest of the world before the late 1960s.

No matter: if Disgrace were for a domestic audience, for the suburban housewives of Durban to read while their maids cleaned the house, I can imagine that there would be some merit in it: the frisson of recognition (the ugly black rapist, etc), but for the rest of us, for an international audience that knows better, that has more distance from the emotions involved, there needs to be a literary payoff. J is allowing me some discretion in choosing my own tastes, and I am excercising it by saying that narcissism, stick figures, and lack of style just doesn't do it for me.

I'll give you narcissism, and I'll give you lack of style.  "Stick figures" is a ridiculous caricature that you still have not substantiated.


In order to see clearly what is small about Coetzee, contrast his work with another author who took on the place where he is from: Marquez.

And I fully agree that Marquez is a far better writer than Coetzee.

Go 'boks!

I'd agree, only I'm a realist.   :D

Actually, things aren't looking too bad this year.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 06, 2006, 03:55:16 PM
redacted
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 04:00:01 PM
Oh, and I deny that a South African necessarily has a better grasp of the politics there than a non-South African. But, that's just an aside.

We should hand this thread back y'all - nobody cares about Coetzee. Fantasy books are more fun.

And I'd agree with that.  But I chose to study the country rather than fall under the same cultural indoctrinations that plagued most of my family and friends.


I have lived in Africa, including in RSA. I have worked on HIV there, including at rape crisis centers. I have been robbed on the street in Jo'burg. I have seen how the narcissism of minor differences that allows south africans to hold on to their "imaginary community". Does this make me better qualified to read Coetzee and to understand him? It shouldn't. I have never been to Colombia, and yet GGM has taken me there. That is what makes for a great writer. In my humble opinion, of course.

There is an interesting book yet to be written about the experience of the white south african diaspora - the sense of culpability that they feel, and the legacy that the apartheid era has left on their childre. The push-pull of wanting to be identified as south african, and yet trying to distance themselves from the history would be interesting. It would have to be different, though, from the German fiction that has done this...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 04:08:58 PM
yes, that was what i was saying, sax.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 04:22:46 PM
Oh, and I deny that a South African necessarily has a better grasp of the politics there than a non-South African. But, that's just an aside.

We should hand this thread back y'all - nobody cares about Coetzee. Fantasy books are more fun.

And I'd agree with that.  But I chose to study the country rather than fall under the same cultural indoctrinations that plagued most of my family and friends.


I have lived in Africa, including in RSA. I have worked on HIV there, including at rape crisis centers. I have been robbed on the street in Jo'burg. I have seen how the narcissism of minor differences that allows south africans to hold on to their "imaginary community". Does this make me better qualified to read Coetzee and to understand him? It shouldn't. I have never been to Colombia, and yet GGM has taken me there. That is what makes for a great writer. In my humble opinion, of course.

Once again, what do you mean by "community"?  Because, depending on your definition, we may be agreed. 

Besides, I agree with the gist of this comment.  However, I am white, male, and South African.  Does this make me more qualified to understand Coetzee?  In some ways, probably. 

Your criticism of the universality of his message is valid.  However, I don't see how "taking me somewhere else" equals "good writing".  There's a lot more to it than that.

There is an interesting book yet to be written about the experience of the white south african diaspora - the sense of culpability that they feel, and the legacy that the apartheid era has left on their childre. The push-pull of wanting to be identified as south african, and yet trying to distance themselves from the history would be interesting. It would have to be different, though, from the German fiction that has done this...

Here we are completely and utterly in agreement.  In fact, this is what I hope to accomplish as a writer.  I'm very glad you made this point.  100 insight points to you.  hahahaha

(I'm being serious, though.   :))


I wrote that last part just for you, J. I could feel the vibe. You should do it. Maybe in 3L
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 04:24:29 PM
Well, I know you were being a little sarcastic, but I wasn't.  There really is a book in that. 

3L, though?  @#!*, I hope I don't have to wait that long!   :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 04:28:10 PM
Well, I know you were being a little sarcastic, but I wasn't.  There really is a book in that. 

3L, though?  @#!*, I hope I don't have to wait that long!   :D


I wasn't being sarcastic at all. People who like books are rare. Every one of us should try to write one. I kept on about the "imaginary community" thing because I could tell that you had (ambivalent) feelings about it. You should do it, seriously. Read the German stuff, though, first, if you haven't already.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 04:34:37 PM
because smarter people than you showed up.

 :-*
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 04:35:20 PM
Sorry. Hijacked for a bit. Now officially been handed back to discussion of picture books.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 04:35:41 PM
Sorry. Hijacked for a bit. Now officially been handed back to discussion of picture books.

 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 06, 2006, 04:38:17 PM
Every one of us should try to write one.

I dunno about that. Some of the PS I've had to crit are truly awful. The writer should be banned from any future writing excepting the vital variety(e.g., scrawling "help" while stranded on a deserted tropical island).

because smarter people than you showed up.

 :-*

 :D :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 04:40:54 PM
Bulgakov is a pimp.

The Master and Margarita is my SECOND favoritest book i've read this year.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 04:42:39 PM
Every one of us should try to write one.

I dunno about that. Some of the PS I've had to crit are truly awful. The writer should be banned from any future non-vital writing (e.g. scrawling "help" while stranded on a deserted tropical island).


I know! Some of the PS's I've been sent have been so bad I thought it was a hoax. What the hell is up with that? Of course, I haven't finished my own various statements up yet and am instead procrastinating by discussing Coetzee (of all people) on this board...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 06, 2006, 04:45:31 PM
Well, I know you were being a little sarcastic, but I wasn't.  There really is a book in that. 

3L, though?  @#!*, I hope I don't have to wait that long!   :D


I wasn't being sarcastic at all. People who like books are rare. Every one of us should try to write one. I kept on about the "imaginary community" thing because I could tell that you had (ambivalent) feelings about it. You should do it, seriously. Read the German stuff, though, first, if you haven't already.

I've done a bit, but nothing substantial.  Please, suggestions are welcome.  I'm open for reading anything and everything this summer, and especially next year, when I'll have a whole semester to kill all by my lonesome.  I won't be attacking something like this until I've done my research, so please, suggestions, suggestions, suggestions!

 ;D

Rachel Seiffert - The Dark Room, much better than Bernhard Schlink "The Reader" but the latter is also quite good. I'll try to recall some others and post them as I do. I'm blanking right now.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 04:46:18 PM
because smarter people than you showed up.

 :-*

I'm hoping you're not putting yourself into that category, Mr. My School Doesn't Even Give Out Email Addresses.  Your liking M & M is reason enough for you to be expelled from the Revolution permanently. 

I think it's more likely one person who likes to read interesting novels influenced others to sign up for sparknotes to fit in. 



my school DOES give out emails. i just don't want to be associated with them.

and M&M was a damned good satire, damnit.

behemoth is the baddest assed cat ever.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 04:49:40 PM
40 signs of rain and 50 degrees below zero, J

 ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 06, 2006, 04:50:55 PM
Every one of us should try to write one.

I dunno about that. Some of the PS I've had to crit are truly awful. The writer should be banned from any future non-vital writing (e.g. scrawling "help" while stranded on a deserted tropical island).


I know! Some of the PS's I've been sent have been so bad I thought it was a hoax. What the hell is up with that? Of course, I haven't finished my own various statements up yet and am instead procrastinating by discussing Coetzee (of all people) on this board...

Ditto.  Not as bad as many of the first year papers I've edited over the last year, though.  I can't believe some people get into university!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 04:51:43 PM
which is why it's so fantastic!
 :D

and i didn't have a choice about going there.

they were the only 4 year school willing to take me.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 06, 2006, 06:57:09 PM
i had a 1.65, i'm not that shocked.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: SCgrad on January 07, 2006, 02:22:00 AM
this thread
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 07, 2006, 02:24:55 AM
this thread

this needed to be immortalized twice.

:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 07, 2006, 03:43:57 AM
Every one of us should try to write one.

I dunno about that. Some of the PS I've had to crit are truly awful. The writer should be banned from any future non-vital writing (e.g. scrawling "help" while stranded on a deserted tropical island).


I know! Some of the PS's I've been sent have been so bad I thought it was a hoax. What the hell is up with that? Of course, I haven't finished my own various statements up yet and am instead procrastinating by discussing Coetzee (of all people) on this board...

Ditto.  Not as bad as many of the first year papers I've edited over the last year, though.  I can't believe some people get into university!


my personal favorites are the ones that sound over-pretentious.  there seem to be a good number of those.

j- ever write something, send it somewhere, be told that it's good, look at it again, and be horrified at how bad it is?

I don't think I've ever written anything that didn't meet this criteria eventually.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: vegemitemama on January 07, 2006, 08:08:25 AM
I don't think I've ever written anything that didn't meet this criteria eventually.

good, i've heard that it's pretty normal, but i wanted to double check.

Makes me feel better too. 'cause I feel this way about EVERYTHING I've ever written.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 07, 2006, 01:30:24 PM
yeah, i don't mind what i wrote so long as i don't reread it.

when i reread it i get pissed that it sucks so much.

but people routinely tell me that it's excellent, so i get wierded out.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 07, 2006, 02:19:48 PM
The best thing to do is to follow this procedure:

(1) Send a copy to someone close to you that you know generally likes your work.  If the piece passes this first test, proceed to (2).

(2) Revise the piece according to the comments made by (1).  Any comments made by (1) are valid, since they really had to be bothered by something if they were going to even mention it.  You don't have to agree, but at least look at it.  Then proceed to (3).

(3) Send the piece to a critic that you know fairly well, someone intelligent enough to be able to discern your intellectual intentions (or pretensions, if you will), and versed enough in literature to be able to spot general plagiarisms.  Make sure they give you a brutally honest account of their thoughts.  This part takes thicker skin.  Don't butter yourself up before you do it.  Then proceed to (4).

(4) Revise again.  See whether you disagree or agree with comments first; if the latter, edit them.  If you disagree, contact the person (if you think the point may be important).  Then proceed to (5).

(5) Steel yourself and send the piece to the harshest critic you know.  They don't need to be a friend, they just need to be someone who's going to read this for you and tell you exactly what they think.  They don't need to be as knowledgeable as (3), either.  You have to make sure, however, that your piece fits into a genre they generally enjoy reading.  Then proceed to (6).

(6) If you passed the test in (5), the piece is basically good to go.  Make any small revisions noted, and now double-check your grammar (get someone else to do this for you if you're sick of reading it).  Then put this away.  For a while.  As in, a few months at least.

(7) A few months later, take it out again, read it, and make any revisions you see.  This piece is now ready for publication, if you so wished.  Repeating the cycle again, however, wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea.


You see, after all THAT, you're STILL going to hate your piece a year down the road.  At least now, however, you know others didn't hate it.  That does make me feel better.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on January 07, 2006, 02:34:04 PM
That would be good Personal Statement advice, too. Instead, the majority approach seems to be to

1. Write the first thing that comes into your head, and in any order (make sure that there are a lot of blind alleys);
2. Ignore the English language altogether and make up your own argot
3. force-fit "and therefore I want to go to law school and would be an excellent candidate for X school" right at the end
4. Send it out to strangers
5. get pissed when they say "this could use some work"
6. Re-label the same text "draft 2" and send it out to same reviewers
7. Re-label as "Final" and submit.

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skaiserbrown on January 07, 2006, 02:43:02 PM
hey! that's what i did!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 07, 2006, 02:49:22 PM
5. get pissed when they say "this could use some work"
6. Re-label the same text "draft 2" and send it out to same reviewers
7. Re-label as "Final" and submit.

I haven't had to deal with 5-6... probably bc all the PS that have been submitted to me I've REALLY ripped apart, with the exception of maybe 1 or 2. I don't think they'd dare send it back exactly the same. And if they did, I'd just tell them to refer to my previous comments. I'm not about to waste my energy a second time.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: dinsosaur junior on January 07, 2006, 03:06:37 PM
It is just tough to edit random lsn essays. They come out of nowhere. as for me, i  was edited my many of my very smart friends, including harvard and stanford law grads. then i asked someone on lsn for a final proof--meaning grammar stuff. i got advice to change the whole thing. okay--perhaps you didn't like the style. but i had asked for a grammar check. I’m done with that.

And why do I get random emails from people asking me to read their essays when I never have offered? I guess it’s the same reason why I get emails from random state law schools that I have no interest in applying to,. right?

And Coetzee is great. Disgrace is detached and that’s why it’s beautiful—some poster explained it really well. I can see why people don’t like it, but it’s just so very very different from anything Marquez attempts to be that I see no point in bringing them up together.

I haven’t read the posts carefully—like I said, I am at work. So sorry if I am missing something.

I am reading V. right now, by Pynchon, which is why I decided to post because I like it but often get confused and overwhelmed and feel like giving up. That’s when I just decide to reread whatever chapter I’ve been on. Anyone read it? Shall I keep going? (I’m halfway)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on January 07, 2006, 04:23:36 PM
The worst are people who send ungodly long (one guy sent me 6 single spaced size 9 font pages) PSs, and want me to do all the editing. Though the one person on here who offered to proofread and then told me it was "f-ing G**damn horrible" wasn't much better.

I'm reading "What you wear can change your life" a gift from my mother. Thanks for the intellectual selection, mom. It is a good book, though.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on January 09, 2006, 12:49:51 AM
I've only proof read P. statements of friends, which I enjoy doing.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on January 29, 2006, 04:06:33 PM
Bramble Bush
and
Euphemisms: 3,00 ways to avoid being rude or giving offense
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: SWM on January 29, 2006, 04:58:57 PM
Persuasion and Law School Confidential.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: cayberr on January 29, 2006, 05:57:09 PM
Kozol's Shame of a Nation with a side of romance novel trash.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: chidochido on January 29, 2006, 09:24:06 PM
PLS II
James Carville: And The Horse He Rode In On
Bill Bryson: A Brief History of Everything

Just finished: Ugly Americans...it was kind of corny...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Grape Drink on January 29, 2006, 09:36:18 PM
Ha! I'm reading PLS II as well. And Civil Procedures Examples and Explanations. I am so f-ing ashamed of myself.
Also reading a biography of Gauguin.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: chidochido on January 29, 2006, 09:49:52 PM
I'm with you JP...I still haven't mustered the courage to start reading PLS II on the train yet - I save it for bedtime reading...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Grape Drink on January 29, 2006, 10:01:04 PM
I'm with you JP...I still haven't mustered the courage to start reading PLS II on the train yet - I save it for bedtime reading...

The other day my order of "Learning Legal Reasoning" came in.

The good news is I actually find this *&^% really interesting, so I guess I made the right choice in applying to law school.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on January 30, 2006, 05:59:12 AM
Finishing up Plato's Republic, then going to re-read Walden.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on January 30, 2006, 06:38:29 AM
Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on January 30, 2006, 04:32:43 PM
Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister

Let us know if it's any good. My roommate has a copy and I'm contemplating a quick read through.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 30, 2006, 04:56:07 PM
I've finally picked up The History of Love by Nicole whatshername. We'll see if it lives up to the hype. :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on January 30, 2006, 05:45:00 PM
I finished it today, and it is wonderful. Fablously tied together, smart, and the ending was so good I literally fell out of my chair on to the floor in awe. The middle gets a bit dry, but you MUST make yourself read the whole thing. A masterpiece, a must read.

Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister

Let us know if it's any good. My roommate has a copy and I'm contemplating a quick read through.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on January 31, 2006, 08:58:12 AM
I finished it today, and it is wonderful. Fablously tied together, smart, and the ending was so good I literally fell out of my chair on to the floor in awe. The middle gets a bit dry, but you MUST make yourself read the whole thing. A masterpiece, a must read.

Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister

Let us know if it's any good. My roommate has a copy and I'm contemplating a quick read through.

I am astounded by everyone's love of that author.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skeeball on January 31, 2006, 09:02:42 AM
I started this thread like 5 or 6 months ago.

But right now it's Trawler by Redmond O'Hanlon.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: K on January 31, 2006, 09:06:30 AM
I'm in the middle of a number of books.

Almost done with Flann O'Brien's The Third Policeman.
Gideon's Trumpet by someone.
America on Trial - the Dersh.

Some others from longer ago.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Grape Drink on January 31, 2006, 09:11:43 AM
Extension Du Domaine De La Lutte by Michel Houellebecq
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on January 31, 2006, 10:49:19 AM
I finished it today, and it is wonderful. Fablously tied together, smart, and the ending was so good I literally fell out of my chair on to the floor in awe. The middle gets a bit dry, but you MUST make yourself read the whole thing. A masterpiece, a must read.

Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister

Let us know if it's any good. My roommate has a copy and I'm contemplating a quick read through.

I am astounded by everyone's love of that author.

No love from me.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on January 31, 2006, 10:50:38 AM
No love from me.

!high five
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on January 31, 2006, 10:53:15 AM
No love from me.

!high five

 ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Dread Pirate Roberts on January 31, 2006, 10:55:58 AM
I just finished Survivor, by Chuck Palhniuk, and am still in the middle of Lipstick Traces and Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on January 31, 2006, 10:57:53 AM
I just finished Survivor, by Chuck Palhniuk, and am still in the middle of Lipstick Traces and Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal.

Did you like Survivor?  That was one of my favorites from the Chuck.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Dread Pirate Roberts on January 31, 2006, 11:51:27 AM
I just finished Survivor, by Chuck Palhniuk, and am still in the middle of Lipstick Traces and Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal.

Did you like Survivor?  That was one of my favorites from the Chuck.

I liked it, but it's not my favorite of his.  That would have to be Lullaby.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on January 31, 2006, 11:53:05 AM
I liked it, but it's not my favorite of his.  That would have to be Lullaby.

Is that the one with the bird on the cover? I think I read it a while ago...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Dread Pirate Roberts on January 31, 2006, 11:56:05 AM
I liked it, but it's not my favorite of his.  That would have to be Lullaby.

Is that the one with the bird on the cover? I think I read it a while ago...

That's the one.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on January 31, 2006, 02:47:03 PM
I finished it today, and it is wonderful. Fablously tied together, smart, and the ending was so good I literally fell out of my chair on to the floor in awe. The middle gets a bit dry, but you MUST make yourself read the whole thing. A masterpiece, a must read.

Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister

Let us know if it's any good. My roommate has a copy and I'm contemplating a quick read through.

Thanks, it's now next on my list. I still have 200 pages of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on January 31, 2006, 02:52:07 PM
I liked it, but it's not my favorite of his.  That would have to be Lullaby.

Is that the one with the bird on the cover? I think I read it a while ago...

That's the one.

Lullaby is great, but I think my favorite is Diary.  It's like Lullaby on steroids.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Dread Pirate Roberts on January 31, 2006, 02:54:54 PM
I liked it, but it's not my favorite of his.  That would have to be Lullaby.

Is that the one with the bird on the cover? I think I read it a while ago...

That's the one.

Lullaby is great, but I think my favorite is Diary.  It's like Lullaby on steroids.

As I read Diary, I kind of kept expecting that there was going to be more there, but there never was.  Not necessarily in a bad way, but in an unsatisfying way.  Like a very sparse sketch of something interesting.  Still good, but I prefered Lullaby.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on January 31, 2006, 02:57:26 PM
I liked it, but it's not my favorite of his.  That would have to be Lullaby.

Is that the one with the bird on the cover? I think I read it a while ago...

That's the one.

Lullaby is great, but I think my favorite is Diary.  It's like Lullaby on steroids.

As I read Diary, I kind of kept expecting that there was going to be more there, but there never was.  Not necessarily in a bad way, but in an unsatisfying way.  Like a very sparse sketch of something interesting.  Still good, but I prefered Lullaby.

To each his (or her) own.  :)  As long as you're a Palahniuk fan, I don't care which is your favorite.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: dbk10 on January 31, 2006, 03:35:39 PM
I'm finishing up Wicked now - have about 20 pages left (fell asleep last night while reading it).  It's a pretty disappointing book after having seen the musical.  Had I not seen and loved the musical so much this would have been one of those books I put down and didn't finish - it's so poorly written.

I'm also starting Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter

And I have some friends in a book club who are about to start reading In Cold Blood, so I'll probably read that with them.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on January 31, 2006, 03:40:34 PM
I'm finishing up Wicked now - have about 20 pages left (fell asleep last night while reading it).  It's a pretty disappointing book after having seen the musical.  Had I not seen and loved the musical so much this would have been one of those books I put down and didn't finish - it's so poorly written.

High Five!

I was not impressed.  Though I did enjoy the ending... just not enough to justify the whole book....
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: gadfly on January 31, 2006, 03:46:50 PM
Confessions of an economic hitman. I picked it up at bookstore more than 8 months ago and sat down to read it last week. It is pretty interesting.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on January 31, 2006, 04:07:43 PM
I'm finishing up Wicked now - have about 20 pages left (fell asleep last night while reading it).  It's a pretty disappointing book after having seen the musical.  Had I not seen and loved the musical so much this would have been one of those books I put down and didn't finish - it's so poorly written.

I'm also starting Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter

And I have some friends in a book club who are about to start reading In Cold Blood, so I'll probably read that with them.

Ew.  The musical was such a piece of crap.  I hate that cliched poppy stuff.  Urine Town does a perfect parody of that exact type of writing.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on February 01, 2006, 03:34:17 PM
Well I liked Wicked. There's so much below the surface. But it's not good from an entertainment standpoint.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on February 01, 2006, 03:38:18 PM
To each his own.

As to what I'm reading now, Pennoyer v. Neff, 95 U.S. 714 (1877).  :P
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on February 01, 2006, 03:39:37 PM
I'm finishing up Wicked now - have about 20 pages left (fell asleep last night while reading it).  It's a pretty disappointing book after having seen the musical.  Had I not seen and loved the musical so much this would have been one of those books I put down and didn't finish - it's so poorly written.

I'm also starting Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter

And I have some friends in a book club who are about to start reading In Cold Blood, so I'll probably read that with them.


Ew.  The musical was such a piece of crap.  I hate that cliched poppy stuff.  Urine Town does a perfect parody of that exact type of writing.

ADORED the first half of Wicked (musical).  The second half was a letdown.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on February 01, 2006, 03:44:22 PM
To each his own.

As to what I'm reading now, Pennoyer v. Neff, 95 U.S. 714 (1877).  :P

Then it's International Shoe, WW Volkswagon, Asahi, Helicoptors, Perkins, Hess, Burger King
....oh what fun...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on February 01, 2006, 04:34:08 PM
To each his own.

As to what I'm reading now, Pennoyer v. Neff, 95 U.S. 714 (1877).  :P

Then it's International Shoe, WW Volkswagon, Asahi, Helicoptors, Perkins, Hess, Burger King
....oh what fun...


You and I must have the same prof.  ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on February 01, 2006, 07:49:53 PM
To each his own.

As to what I'm reading now, Pennoyer v. Neff, 95 U.S. 714 (1877).  :P

Then it's International Shoe, WW Volkswagon, Asahi, Helicoptors, Perkins, Hess, Burger King
....oh what fun...


You and I must have the same prof.  ;)

Either that or we both studied FRCP
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on February 01, 2006, 11:28:27 PM
To each his own.

As to what I'm reading now, Pennoyer v. Neff, 95 U.S. 714 (1877).  :P

GUNNER!!!

:P

Um, it's for class feminine hygiene product bag.

To each his own.

As to what I'm reading now, Pennoyer v. Neff, 95 U.S. 714 (1877).  :P

Then it's International Shoe, WW Volkswagon, Asahi, Helicoptors, Perkins, Hess, Burger King
....oh what fun...


You and I must have the same prof.  ;)

Either that or we both studied FRCP

Like I said above, I have to read it for Civ Pro, so yup - that explains it.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: retire#4 on February 02, 2006, 01:07:27 AM
Ulysses, James Joyce
I have no idea what is going on.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on February 02, 2006, 06:05:11 AM
Ulysses, James Joyce
I have no idea what is going on.

that's the point.  :D

is it nerdy that i have a shirt with james joyce on it?

ok, that was a dumb question. but it's actually pretty awesome--this guy in our joyce class is an incredible artist and he did this ink sketch of joyce and a couple scenes from ulysses and we all got shirts. because we're crazy lit kids.  :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on February 02, 2006, 06:12:39 AM
wow, would you be offended if you got the nerd of the day award?  :D

nah. i'm used to it. it's part of my charm.  ;D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: chidochido on February 02, 2006, 03:54:37 PM
I am jealous of the shirt!

Joyce is my main man and Portrait is my main book...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on February 02, 2006, 09:36:15 PM
To each his own.

As to what I'm reading now, Pennoyer v. Neff, 95 U.S. 714 (1877).  :P

GUNNER!!!

:P

Um, it's for class feminine hygiene product bag.

i know, i'm just screwing with you.  ;)

hence the :P .

:)

Duh!  I was joking too.  I forgot the  :P.  Sorry.  :-X
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on February 03, 2006, 07:28:01 AM
Duh!  I was joking too.  I forgot the  :P.  Sorry.  :-X

sorry, i didn't pick up on it.

now all is well.  :)

Amen brotha!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: corbabe on February 03, 2006, 07:41:39 AM
i'm reading John Grisham The Broker right now it SUCKS!  I think it is his worst book.  I only read it on the bus to and from work so maybe that is why it isn't so good WHO KNOWS!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on February 03, 2006, 07:46:21 AM
You read Grisham expecting quality???

Whatever gave you that delusion?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: corbabe on February 03, 2006, 09:43:50 AM
I thought some of this other books were ok, A time to kill, The Brethren, etc.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: skeeball on February 03, 2006, 09:49:58 AM
Trawler is too sciency for me. I'm always so tired when I read in bed I can't concentrate on anything more intense than chick-lit.

I should hand it over to my new guy, it's probably up his alley.

 :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr Shears on February 03, 2006, 01:37:17 PM
I think I'm going to forego re-reading Thoreau (rhyme not intentional) and read some Miller instead.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on February 03, 2006, 09:10:17 PM
Right now, Breaking Free, this Christian-y self help book
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ladylazarus on February 03, 2006, 09:20:42 PM
A Game of Thrones by George R R Martin.  Three more books after this one.  Figure I should get one more epic fantasy series under my belt before starting law school and not having time to read. ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 03, 2006, 10:27:13 PM
A book I've wanted to read for a while and am now reading for a class:

The God of Small Things - Arundhati Roy


Also reading a Kafka collection and looking to pick up a few quick-reads for Reading Week, like maybe Koontz or one of the Stephen King novels I haven't read yet (although his new stuff is apparently horrible, but hey, I won't know until I read them, will I?).

The girl's going to be gone for a few days, so I need some entertainment, and I'm not going to spend every day practicing for the LSAT/wasting time on LSD.

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 03, 2006, 10:33:14 PM
Yes.  Some of his stuff is f-ing awesome.

Some... well, not so awesome.

Wish I could read German better, though. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 03, 2006, 10:45:31 PM
What the hell is wrong with you?  That story is simultaneously frightening, tragic, and hilarious.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 03, 2006, 10:51:44 PM
From that analysis, I don't think you got the message at all.

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 03, 2006, 11:00:54 PM
I read it in English.

And what do you think is the message?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 03, 2006, 11:03:03 PM
Ummmm... no.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 03, 2006, 11:16:22 PM
Ah, your more nuanced description gets closer to the truth, as far as I'm concerned.

It's not a mere matter of being an outcast or not.  It's a matter of being human.  Gregor only becomes a person once he becomes an insect - he's only noticed once he disappears.  He's a part of a system which controls him, not the other way around.  After his metamorphosis, things are turned on their heads - slowly but surely, his family (the one for which he had sacrificed himself to become part of this system) is forced into that system, one where their lives are controlled at their own expense. 

The story is about the disappearance of humanity within the urban cogs of modernity, illustrated through the alienation of a subject which cannot be a functioning cog, yet remains a living being.  And, as he outgrows his use, Gregor loses his family. 

Metamorphosis is about the value of existence, about the patterns of life.  And it's so f-ing nightmarish, too.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 04, 2006, 12:09:32 AM
No, it's Sax chickening out of his debate about his dislike for Kafka's "The Metamorphosis".
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 04, 2006, 12:16:47 AM
I hate purging!

 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: PlanetLawSchool on February 04, 2006, 12:51:27 AM
maddox.xmission.com (http://maddox.xmission.com)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on February 06, 2006, 08:06:03 AM
Just started Valley of the Dolls (again)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on February 07, 2006, 07:00:58 AM
I'm going through my Dave Barry collection again.
Also, male private part Morris, bc he may be a sleaze, but he sure knows politics.
A couple novels, nothing special.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on February 14, 2006, 08:45:55 AM
I finished the Ugly Step-Sister, Vanna, thanks for the recommendation!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Erapitt on February 14, 2006, 08:50:36 AM
Blink : The Power of Thinking Without Thinking by Malcom Gladwell

In Cold Blood by Truman Capote

And

Cell by Stephen King, although its about to be thrown back to the library as it is awful.


Sorry for the poor spelling.  Kinda sad what spell checker has done to me.

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 14, 2006, 09:51:18 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: veg on February 14, 2006, 09:52:05 AM
Oooh I like this thread.

Word Freak.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: orlando jackson on February 14, 2006, 10:51:48 AM
now, Does America Need A Foreign Policy, by Kissinger
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on February 14, 2006, 10:55:00 AM
Metaphysics of Star Trek.  What can I say, it was fifty cents.  :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on February 14, 2006, 10:56:24 AM
oops, misspoke.  It's actually Ethics of Star Trek.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on February 14, 2006, 11:00:06 AM
oops, misspoke.  It's actually Ethics of Star Trek.

this makes it better?  :D

 :P
 :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on February 14, 2006, 11:05:43 AM
Metaphysics of Star Trek.  What can I say, it was fifty cents.  :D

nerd of the day honorable mention.

man, you're handing those out willy nilly. they're not lollipops, y'know.  ;D

I just went to the library yesterday:
Margaret Atwood, The Tent
Thomas Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
Myla Goldberg,  Wickett's Remedy (author of Bee Season)
Rachel Cusk, In the Fold

Hooray for books!  :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on February 14, 2006, 11:07:42 AM
the honorable mentions kind of are.

What?! I thought I was special  >:(

no more LSN clicks for you
 ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on February 14, 2006, 11:08:31 AM
the honorable mentions kind of are.

meh.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on February 14, 2006, 11:13:03 AM
the real thing is VERY prestigious.  ;)

yes, but you gave it away for a whole month!  :'(

i'll still click on your LSN though. i can't help it. it's an irrepressible urge.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: lily06 on February 14, 2006, 11:35:56 AM
I also have to have more than one book going at a time...

A Short History of the World- Blainey
A History of American Law- Friedman
Empire Falls- Russo

Everyone should read Bonfire of the Vanities, it has funny commentary on the lives of DAs
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Grape Drink on February 14, 2006, 11:53:46 AM
The other day I ordered Pierre Bourdieu's Distinctions from Amazon.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 14, 2006, 01:19:28 PM
Metaphysics of Star Trek.  What can I say, it was fifty cents.  :D

nerd of the day honorable mention.

man, you're handing those out willy nilly. they're not lollipops, y'know.  ;D

I just went to the library yesterday:
Margaret Atwood, The Tent
Thomas Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
Myla Goldberg,  Wickett's Remedy (author of Bee Season)
Rachel Cusk, In the Fold

Hooray for books!  :D


Have you read Popper?


And please shoot me before you make me read any Margaret Atwood ever again.  EVER.  AGAIN.   :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on February 14, 2006, 01:25:32 PM
Have you read Popper?


And please shoot me before you make me read any Margaret Atwood ever again.  EVER.  AGAIN.   :D


nope. what's it about?

and this is my first crack at atwood, so i may join you some time later this week. i'll let you know.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 14, 2006, 01:28:42 PM
Popper and Kuhn are the two big heads in the philosophy of science during the middle of last century.

I don't know if anyone can hate Atwood as much as people who live in Canada and understand how f-ing bleak her writing really is.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on February 14, 2006, 01:34:51 PM
Popper and Kuhn are the two big heads in the philosophy of science during the middle of last century.

I don't know if anyone can hate Atwood as much as people who live in Canada and understand how f-ing bleak her writing really is.


I've only recently begun my foray into the non-fiction world, so I'm pretty clueless about the big names. I'll be sure to pick up Popper when I get the chance. (any other recommendations are welcome)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on February 14, 2006, 01:51:22 PM
Oooh I like this thread.

Word Freak.

Word?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Dread Pirate Roberts on February 14, 2006, 01:55:35 PM
I don't know if anyone can hate Atwood as much as people who live in Canada and understand how f-ing bleak her writing really is.

How so?  I'm not from Canada, so I don't get how living there would make her writing seem bleaker (and perhaps for that reason I generally quite like her novels).
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Messily on February 14, 2006, 02:11:44 PM
I just finished Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil by John Berendt, and Assassination Vacation by Sarah Vowell.  I highly recommend them both.

Now I'm reading Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro.  Several different people have told me how much they despise Ishiguro in the past week, so I'm a little wary now.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Grape Drink on February 14, 2006, 02:35:30 PM
Popper and Kuhn are the two big heads in the philosophy of science during the middle of last century.

I don't know if anyone can hate Atwood as much as people who live in Canada and understand how f-ing bleak her writing really is.


I've only recently begun my foray into the non-fiction world, so I'm pretty clueless about the big names. I'll be sure to pick up Popper when I get the chance. (any other recommendations are welcome)

I wouldn't waste too much time on Popper. Kuhn on the other hand is some really important *&^%. Dude is a historian who wrote one of the most influential books in philosophy. THat's some real *&^% right there.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 14, 2006, 02:49:53 PM
I don't know if anyone can hate Atwood as much as people who live in Canada and understand how f-ing bleak her writing really is.

How so?  I'm not from Canada, so I don't get how living there would make her writing seem bleaker (and perhaps for that reason I generally quite like her novels).

It was tongue-in-cheek.  If you live in Canada, you know how crappy it is around here six to eight months of the year.  Yet, somehow, Atwood makes it sound even worse than it actually is.  I didn't think it was possible.

I don't like her writing simply because I don't like her writing.  I don't know if she's a particularly poor novelist or anything - I've given her as little time as I've been forced to give her.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Zoli on February 14, 2006, 03:28:28 PM
Read "No one here gets out Alive"



Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: veg on February 14, 2006, 04:15:14 PM
Oooh I like this thread.

Word Freak.

Word?

:D :D

Where've you been? I've missed you!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr. Pink on February 14, 2006, 04:19:05 PM
Im reading Longitudes and Attitudes : The World in the Age of Terrorism by Thomas L. Friedman and Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami. Plus Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant (wouldn't be reading it if not for class, its a killer)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 14, 2006, 04:24:46 PM
Popper and Kuhn are the two big heads in the philosophy of science during the middle of last century.

I don't know if anyone can hate Atwood as much as people who live in Canada and understand how f-ing bleak her writing really is.


I've only recently begun my foray into the non-fiction world, so I'm pretty clueless about the big names. I'll be sure to pick up Popper when I get the chance. (any other recommendations are welcome)

I wouldn't waste too much time on Popper. Kuhn on the other hand is some really important *&^%. Dude is a historian who wrote one of the most influential books in philosophy. THat's some real *&^% right there.

Are you kidding me?  The whole basis of acceptable scientific "truth" rests on Popper's work. 

I'm not knocking Kuhn.  I'm saying both are incredibly important theorists.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 14, 2006, 04:28:19 PM
I got 100 pages into the Critique, then abandoned it for a course one day.  I never picked it up again since I never took a course requiring it. 

I may get back into it one day.  It's valuable stuff to know.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on February 14, 2006, 04:35:29 PM
Oooh I like this thread.

Word Freak.

Word?

:D :D

Where've you been? I've missed you!

Well thanks!  ;D I'm around, but LS keeps me busy. Have you decided where to attend LS?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Grape Drink on February 14, 2006, 04:42:46 PM
Popper and Kuhn are the two big heads in the philosophy of science during the middle of last century.

I don't know if anyone can hate Atwood as much as people who live in Canada and understand how f-ing bleak her writing really is.


I've only recently begun my foray into the non-fiction world, so I'm pretty clueless about the big names. I'll be sure to pick up Popper when I get the chance. (any other recommendations are welcome)

I wouldn't waste too much time on Popper. Kuhn on the other hand is some really important sh*t. Dude is a historian who wrote one of the most influential books in philosophy. THat's some real sh*t right there.

Are you kidding me?  The whole basis of acceptable scientific "truth" rests on Popper's work. 

I'm not knocking Kuhn.  I'm saying both are incredibly important theorists.


Sort of. What you're refering to rests on Wittgenstein's post-tractatus/pre-investigations work that really influenced the Vienna Circle. (which he later abandoned) (WIttgenstein also pwns Popper). He is important, but I'd say for a layperson Kuhn is a more interesting read.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 14, 2006, 05:22:06 PM
Popper and Kuhn are the two big heads in the philosophy of science during the middle of last century.

I don't know if anyone can hate Atwood as much as people who live in Canada and understand how f-ing bleak her writing really is.


I've only recently begun my foray into the non-fiction world, so I'm pretty clueless about the big names. I'll be sure to pick up Popper when I get the chance. (any other recommendations are welcome)

I wouldn't waste too much time on Popper. Kuhn on the other hand is some really important sh*t. Dude is a historian who wrote one of the most influential books in philosophy. THat's some real sh*t right there.

Are you kidding me?  The whole basis of acceptable scientific "truth" rests on Popper's work. 

I'm not knocking Kuhn.  I'm saying both are incredibly important theorists.


Sort of. What you're refering to rests on Wittgenstein's post-tractatus/pre-investigations work that really influenced the Vienna Circle. (which he later abandoned) (WIttgenstein also pwns Popper). He is important, but I'd say for a layperson Kuhn is a more interesting read.

Then we're agreed.  It should be noted, though, that without Popper, it's likely the philosophy of science would not be the distinct field it is today, and Kuhn's book may not even have seen the light of day.

And Wittgenstein definitely pwns Popper. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr. Pink on February 14, 2006, 08:39:47 PM
I got 100 pages into the Critique, then abandoned it for a course one day.  I never picked it up again since I never took a course requiring it. 

I may get back into it one day.  It's valuable stuff to know.


I just wish that Kant wrote better.  His bad prose makes it even harder to understand his complex philosophy.  But he is one of the great philosophers. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on February 14, 2006, 08:48:59 PM
I'm sure it's better in German.

Marginally better.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Dread Pirate Roberts on February 15, 2006, 07:16:07 AM
im sure this was already said, and not very original, but i just started The Da Vinci Code, hoping it gets better, im on page 40...

The writing never does.  But on the upside, the writing is at least humorous.

(And this is coming from someone who actually enjoys Dan Brown novels, although Digital Fortress is so bad even I may not finish reading it.)

So, yeah, I'm embarassed to say that I'm reading Digital Fortress at the times at which my brain is completely fried, and Harry Potter y la camara secreta when it's not.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Dread Pirate Roberts on February 15, 2006, 07:28:54 AM
im sure this was already said, and not very original, but i just started The Da Vinci Code, hoping it gets better, im on page 40...

The writing never does.  But on the upside, the writing is at least humorous.

(And this is coming from someone who actually enjoys Dan Brown novels, although Digital Fortress is so bad even I may not finish reading it.)

So, yeah, I'm embarassed to say that I'm reading Digital Fortress at the times at which my brain is completely fried, and Harry Potter y la camara secreta when it's not.

then i take it that you're done with the latest in the left behind series.

I read some but not all of them a year and a half ago when I was unemployed and my sister's father-in-law lent them to me.  But I don't exactly keep up with the series.   :P  ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on February 15, 2006, 07:35:24 AM
isn't that the series about religious stuff?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Dread Pirate Roberts on February 15, 2006, 07:35:57 AM
So, yeah, I'm embarassed to say that I'm reading Digital Fortress at the times at which my brain is completely fried, and Harry Potter y la camara secreta when it's not.

then i take it that you're done with the latest in the left behind series.

I read some but not all of them a year and a half ago when I was unemployed and my sister's father-in-law lent them to me.  But I don't exactly keep up with the series.   :P  ;)

uh huh. 

::skeptical::


It's skepticism like yours that's destroying the world.  And, y'know, preventing you from accepting Jesus as your personal savior, which is, after all, the only way to avoid horrific death in the End Times.

(And, magnumalv, yes.   ;))
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on February 15, 2006, 07:49:30 AM
I enjoy Left Behind. jsia
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on February 15, 2006, 04:09:44 PM
If only it were accurate and not just enjoyable.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr. Pink on February 15, 2006, 07:10:03 PM
Le Tartuffe by Moliere.  In french.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on February 16, 2006, 08:18:10 AM
If only it were accurate and not just enjoyable.

Why do you say that, if I may ask?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on February 16, 2006, 09:07:42 AM
If only it were accurate and not just enjoyable.

Why do you say that, if I may ask?

Some of the events are out of order & some are added or unrealistic.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on February 16, 2006, 10:05:44 AM
I have to agree with that.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 1Laspirant on February 16, 2006, 10:11:05 AM
Lonesome Dove, The Stranger and The Children of Light and the Children of Darkness (Niebuhr).
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr. Pink on February 22, 2006, 10:11:03 AM
Guns, Germs and Steel.    GREAT READ
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ZinnMaster on March 04, 2006, 06:47:03 PM
Anybody read Derrick Jensen? I know nothing about him, but somebody said I might like him. Anyway, I just finished Drop City...I didn't think too highly of it.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 05, 2006, 03:30:13 PM
redemption's last posts.  ;)

also,
male private part Morris' Condi v Hillary.
Alan Alda's memoir.
Out of Eden (traces evolution via migration of physical characteristics in animals... neat stuff)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 05, 2006, 03:42:15 PM
redemption's last posts.  ;)

also,
male private part Morris' Condi v Hillary.
Alan Alda's memoir.
Out of Eden (traces evolution via migration of physical characteristics in animals... neat stuff)


 :D

It ain't pretty, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Erapitt on March 05, 2006, 04:07:13 PM
I just picked up In Cold Blood, by Truman Capote from the library today. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 05, 2006, 04:08:43 PM
I just picked up In Cold Blood, by Truman Capote from the library today. 

Just don't listen to it being read the by original author. He'll lose a lot of credibility, lol.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bass on March 05, 2006, 04:14:19 PM
Getting Mother's Body by Suzan-Lori Parks.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Pythagoras on March 05, 2006, 04:36:57 PM
Getting Mother's Body by Suzan-Lori Parks.

Love, love, love Suzan-Lori Parks.  Ever read "In The Blood"?

Currently reading: Portrait of Dorian Gray
(Part of my "read one 'classic' a month new year's resolution)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bass on March 05, 2006, 04:38:31 PM
Getting Mother's Body by Suzan-Lori Parks.

Love, love, love Suzan-Lori Parks.  Ever read "In The Blood"?


Only read (and saw) Topdog/Underdog.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ZinnMaster on March 05, 2006, 04:55:46 PM
Just picked up Resistance, Rebellion, and Death by Albert Camus, The Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini, and The Portable William Blake, all from this great used book store next to my house called "On The Road Books." I'm pretty excited having paid only $7 for all of them. Goodbye Borders. Now, which one to read first...

Also, this might be the nerdiest question ever asked on LSD but, does anybody know of any website (similar to LSD) for book readers, where people chat about and recomend books, etc.?

Thanks and enjoy.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Erapitt on March 05, 2006, 05:02:51 PM
Getting Mother's Body by Suzan-Lori Parks.

Love, love, love Suzan-Lori Parks.  Ever read "In The Blood"?

Currently reading: Portrait of Dorian Gray
(Part of my "read one 'classic' a month new year's resolution)


The Portrait of Dorian Gray is by far my favorite Wilde work and one of my literary favs of all time. If you haven't read it before you will definately enjoy it.  It makes you think.....
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 05, 2006, 08:25:28 PM
john gray, al qaeda and what it means to be modern. 

somewhat interesting.

Do you find it persuasive?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 05, 2006, 08:29:43 PM
john gray, al qaeda and what it means to be modern. 

somewhat interesting.

Do you find it persuasive?

not far enough into the book to determine. 

ok. remember to tell me what you think of it when you're done.

3-6 Mafia just won oscar for best song "it's hard out here for a pimp". The world is changing.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bruin on March 05, 2006, 08:39:59 PM
cases that due to the rules of the Virginia Law Review Association, I am not at liberty to list or discuss.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: gadfly on March 05, 2006, 08:45:02 PM
the life of pi. I'm half way through and I've yet to be convinced that its booker prize win was well deserved. I love subtlety when it comes to the development of a theme in a novel and there's nothing subtle about the message of this book. In fact, it repeatedly bangs your head with it. For some reason I keep comparing it to the god of small things by Arundhati Roy-which was far better.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 05, 2006, 08:52:00 PM
the life of pi. I'm half way through and I've yet to be convinced that its booker prize win was well deserved. I love subtlety when it comes to the development of a theme in a novel and there's nothing subtle about the message of this book. In fact, it repeatedly bangs your head with it. For some reason I keep comparing it to the god of small things by Arundhati Roy-which was far better.

Life of Pi = crap (Booker has become a joke); The God of Small Things = marvelous.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bass on March 06, 2006, 06:45:49 AM
Do you have a top 10 or 20 list of marvelous books and a list of crap books (contrary to popular belief)?

thread idea?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 06, 2006, 06:54:36 AM
There's rarely anything worth reading on the best-seller lists.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: tulpen on March 06, 2006, 07:17:02 AM
I'm reading Sarah Vowell's Take the Cannolli and the People's History of the United States. It's so nice to read after spending months studying for the LSAT!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 06, 2006, 07:36:37 AM
you're back!  :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 06, 2006, 09:13:43 AM
Do you have a top 10 or 20 list of marvelous books and a list of crap books (contrary to popular belief)?

Thread idea for sure. I myself probably do, but I'd have to think on it for a bit first
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: SantiV on March 06, 2006, 09:45:14 AM
Halfway throught The Picture of Dorian Gray. Pretty amazing so far, and Lord Harry is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters every.  He has the best explanations about everything in life.  Definitely a must.

I just finished this book called God-Shaped hole which my friend gave to me.  It's actually a great Love Story if you're interested in that kind of stuff. 

It surprises me how so many people are GGM fans but fail to mention his other great reads.  Everyone focuses on 100 Years and Love in the Time of Cholera.  While these are fabs, don't forget some of his other amazing works such as:
-News of a Kidnapping:  goes back to his journalistic style.  About a few people who were kidnapped in Colombia, gives you a great insight into what the civil war is like there.
-Chronicle of a Death Foretold: His most unappreciated work.  It is the best 105 pages I've ever read in my life.  The great thing is that from the very beginning you know he's dying.
-Autumn of the Patriarch:  Magical Realism at its best.
-Living to tell the tale:  If you love Gabo, read the first part of his Autobiography.  It's is magnificent, and doesn't even take you into his novel-writing days. 

A couple of other great reads are Prince of Providence, about Buddy Cianci, the ex-mayor of Providence.  He is quite a character.  If you like Che, Chasing Che is my favorite book about his so far.  Friedman's, The World is Flat is well worth your time.  I also loved In the Shadow of the Law.  I never read 1L, but  this one was pretty entertaining and gave me a good insight into what my future might be like.


Now about my future reads.  What do people think about Dan Brown's work?  Should I finally give in and read his works, or will I find them to be over-hyped? 

This is a great thread.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 06, 2006, 09:46:44 AM
-Chronicle of a Death Foretold: His most unappreciated work.

Agreed
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on March 06, 2006, 09:50:12 AM
Le Petit Prince - I figured I should probably go ahead a reread it since I didn't REALLY read it in HS....  Thankfully, it's much easier now  :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ZinnMaster on March 06, 2006, 07:17:01 PM
I'm reading Sarah Vowell's Take the Cannolli and the People's History of the United States. It's so nice to read after spending months studying for the LSAT!

Howard Zinn is the man...or as I prefer to call him, The Zinn-Master. People's History is great, but I actually like some of his others a lot better, so check them all out. Enjoy.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ZinnMaster on March 06, 2006, 07:20:15 PM
TheoristOfEverythin You have decided on UPITT? Congrats. I am leaning strongly toward the school myself. Not sure I actually have any point to make, just wanted to say hi to a future classmate. By the way, great pic, have you seen the running joke on Conan O'brian, where he pulls the lever and the Texas Ranger clip plays? Classic!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Vannabunny on March 06, 2006, 08:35:50 PM
God Wears Lipstick -  a sort of New Age-ish Christian look at Kabbalah
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Fidelio on March 06, 2006, 08:51:33 PM
still on "Five people you meet in heaven".....

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 2Lacoste on March 06, 2006, 10:14:54 PM
Le Petit Prince - I figured I should probably go ahead a reread it since I didn't REALLY read it in HS....  Thankfully, it's much easier now  :D

My all-time fave.  I might pick it up and re-read it at your mention; anything to escape the present school-reading: Leibniz.  Philosophy majors of the world unite!...and commit mass suicide.

Last non-school book...hmmm...Dave Eggers, "You Shall Know Our Velocity!"
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 2Lacoste on March 06, 2006, 10:44:27 PM
Leibniz.  Philosophy majors of the world unite!...

Woo hoo! Gotta love those Monads and the identity of indiscernibles!

No...no. more. monads.  *death*

EDIT:  Monads are indestructible, thus  *non-death*
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Poster on March 07, 2006, 06:54:30 AM
NO MONADS!!!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 04:36:27 AM
You read a lot. No fiction?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 04:46:26 AM
Did you find John Gray to be too pompous? (If you like Chekov, Janet Malcolm's "Reading Chekov" is excellent)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 05:07:29 AM
I rerad sssays - such as Straw Dogs and the one that you just finished - more for the impression of a point of view than for an argument. I see everything as complicated, so for an argument I look, generally, to longer books for a coherent argument.

I didn't much like this book, even though I agree with his premise that AQ is a modernist movement, and that enlightenment reason is a forgotten cult.

I enjoy Ian Buruma - another essayist - more, even though I don't always agree with him. Buruma writes well on all subjects, especially on AQ and on Japan.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 05:16:17 AM
AQ and Japan are an odd combination.

He's Dutch and writes in English. His essay "Inventing Japan" is the best that I've read on the country. Essayists choose their topics freely. It's a perk. I'd like to be an essayist some day.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 05:26:41 AM
Yes, like Dan. After the proliferation thing's been solved, though.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 05:32:11 AM
Solve that and, hell, I actually read your novel.  ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 05:39:22 AM
Rats! A promise I'll have to keep. I'll have to root for AQ Khan, now.

What would it be about, anyway? In the very broadest sketch, I mean.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 05:52:44 AM
Rats! A promise I'll have to keep. I'll have to root for AQ Khan, now.

What would it be about, anyway? In the very broadest sketch, I mean.

oh i haven't the slightest clue.  i've never actually seriously thought about writing a novel.  i get interested in writing short fiction on occasion, but again, i never make much progress.  i think it may be something that i just toy with.

It's hard, I think. I have great respect for writers. Which reminds me - do you ever check out the opinionista blog?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 05:58:23 AM
Rats! A promise I'll have to keep. I'll have to root for AQ Khan, now.

What would it be about, anyway? In the very broadest sketch, I mean.

oh i haven't the slightest clue.  i've never actually seriously thought about writing a novel.  i get interested in writing short fiction on occasion, but again, i never make much progress.  i think it may be something that i just toy with.

It's hard, I think. I have great respect for writers. Which reminds me - do you ever check out the opinionista blog?

i don't, i've just heard about it.  why, is that you?  :D

(i'm kidding, i know it's not.  i don't really read blogs in general.)

I've been checking out blogs lately, since I'm thinking of starting my own and all. She sounds feisty, but not so much.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 06:09:43 AM
there was something of a buzz about her being outed recently, no?

Yes. She outed herself, I think. Agreed to a profile in the NYT. She gets a LOT of hate mail.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 06:21:54 AM
Yes, well that's probably true - I'm thick-skinned because I want the right to be opinionated.

The messages to her have been very revealing, though, about the people writing them. It's so great to be a Lit person!

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 06:34:49 AM
Pardon the interruption.  Has anyone read any Neil Postman?

Amusing Ourselves to Death - yes. Why?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 06:40:48 AM
you look like you're thinking something impish.

I was told to look that way for the shot. I was thinking about how ridiculous It is for people to have pics taken of themselves when they're doing something nice. Better to keep the memory in the mind, where it can grow. I don't like photos being taken of me - alone or otherwise.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 06:42:19 AM
Pardon the interruption.  Has anyone read any Neil Postman?

Amusing Ourselves to Death - yes. Why?

That's the only one I've read.  Did you like it?  Has he got anything else worth reading?  A smile...how nice.

It's the only one that I've read (I think). It wasn't particularly interesting to me, so I don't think that I would have followed up with other pieces.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 07:06:06 AM
you look like you're thinking something impish.

I was told to look that way for the shot. I was thinking about how ridiculous It is for people to have pics taken of themselves when they're doing something nice. Better to keep the memory in the mind, where it can grow. I don't like photos being taken of me - alone or otherwise.

what the hell were you doing?

and why did the photographer chop your face in half?

On vacation. SO took it. I cropped the picture to protect the innocent. (that would be me). The full thing is too "I'm trying to be a photographer" on his part.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: SCgrad on March 09, 2006, 07:07:14 AM
how many threads do you two talk to each other on at the same time?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 09, 2006, 07:08:48 AM
Plato's Timaeus...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 07:11:05 AM
how many threads do you two talk to each other on at the same time?

Three. I'm taking his ADD into consideration.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 07:14:15 AM
Since they put you in a staff job.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 09, 2006, 07:16:11 AM
i'm envious of your eyebrow(s) red. mine are kinda fuzzy. stupid asian hair.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 07:18:16 AM
i'm envious of your eyebrow(s) red. mine are kinda fuzzy. stupid asian hair.

Asian hair's lovely. My eyebrows get worked on. A lot  ;D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 09, 2006, 07:26:03 AM
i met the coolest guy the other day--a forensic CPA. Who knew accounting could be so neat?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 07:27:58 AM
Nice 'tar.

Forensic accounting is great. The guy's cool or his job?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 09, 2006, 07:31:45 AM
Nice 'tar.

Forensic accounting is great. The guy's cool or his job?

both. he's a former SBI agent, so he's got this great background in criminal prosecution. he's got these great insights... stuff like the profile of an embezzler, etc. i may go to a conference he's giving in a month or so just for the heck of it.

and re the new 'tar, it cracks me up. i wonder if the crew cut was intentional or just sorta lopped off by accident.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 09, 2006, 07:35:28 AM
Nice 'tar.

Forensic accounting is great. The guy's cool or his job?

both. he's a former SBI agent, so he's got this great background in criminal prosecution. he's got these great insights... stuff like the profile of an embezzler, etc. i may go to a conference he's giving in a month or so just for the heck of it.

and re the new 'tar, it cracks me up. i wonder if the crew cut was intentional or just sorta lopped off by accident.

Sounds interesting. Also sounds like [the start of] a crush  ;)

Accident, I think. Makes it funnier.

I'd better start doing some work, I suppose.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 09, 2006, 07:38:30 AM
Sounds interesting. Also sounds like [the start of] a crush  ;)

Accident, I think. Makes it funnier.

I'd better start doing some work, I suppose.

nah, he's way too old and straight-laced otherwise. i've become alarmingly picky in the past few years re: crushes. an extreme elitist, if you will.  :-\

well, if you're gonna work, i guess i'll just write you an email.  :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 05:46:54 PM
Art of the Steal, Christopher Mason

hi stan
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 06:31:17 PM
working  >:(
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 18, 2006, 06:39:01 PM
Isn't that what you're doing?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 07:06:28 PM
do they make you work everyday?

red: haven't you eaten yet?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 18, 2006, 07:09:56 PM
She's late - coming from Baltimore. I'm hungry, too  :-\
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 07:10:27 PM
 :-\

i had porkchops.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 18, 2006, 07:19:12 PM
Man, I haven't had porkchops iin years. Not since England, probably.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 07:21:38 PM
 ??? do they not have porkchops in DC?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 18, 2006, 07:28:39 PM
I never think "porkchops" when I'm in the market, for some reason.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 18, 2006, 07:31:21 PM
i don't know if i've ever had porkchops.  i'm sure i have, but i don't remember them, ever.  red you're not out partying?  ;)

Girlfriend is supposed to come over and share dinner and wine with me. She's late, which is ok because she'll probably stay the night anyway. But I'm hungry and am nibbling at the naan and getting slowly tipsy on the wine.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 18, 2006, 07:40:18 PM
i don't know if i've ever had porkchops.  i'm sure i have, but i don't remember them, ever.  red you're not out partying?  ;)

Girlfriend is supposed to come over and share dinner and wine with me. She's late, which is ok because she'll probably stay the night anyway. But I'm hungry and am nibbling at the naan and getting slowly tipsy on the wine.

i support drunk red.  naan is what, ethiopian?  sorry, i'm not too good with the ethnic stuff.  or food in general, actually.

You are too funny.

It's indian bread - unleavened. It goes with curry.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 18, 2006, 07:53:00 PM
At this rate, I'd be surprised if you know what Kimchi is.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 07:54:14 PM
At this rate, I'd be surprised if you know what Kimchi is.

mmmmmm
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 07:57:29 PM

also i've noticed a significant increase in the number of people hitting on you changed to the "girl next door" tar.

yeah, seriously. like, exponentially.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 18, 2006, 07:59:47 PM
I'm changing it back. It distorts things  :-\
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 08:01:39 PM
but it's purty! much better than stan's stonewalling.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 08:04:20 PM
care to give us a hint?

yeah, 17k posts is a bit much to troll through
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 08:17:58 PM
 >:( there's nothing there. that was mean, thou.  :P
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 08:20:03 PM
why are you copyrighted, thou?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ZinnMaster on March 18, 2006, 08:22:56 PM
Well I'm going on a little trip in a few days and I'm looking for a good book to keep me company. Does anybody want to recommend a good one? Non-fiction would be best, something interesting. Also does anyone know anything about Derrick Jensen, I think I may have asked this before...somebody recommended him to me...but I don't have a lot of faith in the person who recommended him. Thanks.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 08:25:51 PM
ian: there's a ton of nonfiction recommendations earlier in the thread. if you don't find anything interesting, let us know. (also, might help if you told us what you're typically interested in). re: jensen, never read him, so i can't help ya there.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on March 18, 2006, 08:44:45 PM
Well I'm going on a little trip in a few days and I'm looking for a good book to keep me company. Does anybody want to recommend a good one? Non-fiction would be best, something interesting. Also does anyone know anything about Derrick Jensen, I think I may have asked this before...somebody recommended him to me...but I don't have a lot of faith in the person who recommended him. Thanks.

if you haven't read it, Guns, Germs, and Steel:the fates of human societies by Jared Diamond is good. but it's kinda heavy and bulky so i don't know if it travels well.

stan...there's a picture of you somewhere? i think you're toying with us... and enjoying it

Collapse is also by Diamond, its smaller...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 18, 2006, 09:20:50 PM
actually, it's more like 2/3 of her face, not 75%
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on March 18, 2006, 09:22:41 PM
actually, it's more like 2/3 of her face, not 75%

sorry, i'm not so good at math.  :P

Did someone say MATH

Have no fear, Steve is here!

Sorry,

<------- juiced up on caffeine :(  :-\
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on March 18, 2006, 09:38:50 PM
thou- i admire your persistence, especially cause i hope you find it, and then share it with everyone... by which i mean me.  ;)

i may consider pointing you both in the right direction if holly is willing to show us the other 75% of her face.  ;)

haha nice try...  :P

but once again, should i find myself drunk and logged onto lsd, you just never know what might happen

Can't be worse than what I did. ;)


What did you do?
Quote
actually, it's more like 2/3 of her face, not 75%

sorry, i'm not so good at math.  :P

Did someone say MATH

Have no fear, Steve is here!

Sorry,

<------- juiced up on caffeine :(  :-\

I actually lol'd at this one. :D

 ;D :-*
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on March 18, 2006, 09:53:51 PM
I'm officially drunk, jsia

What's that about Holly's face?

Later
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Poster on March 19, 2006, 09:45:06 AM
:-\

i had porkchops.

Quoted for Dorian.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on March 19, 2006, 01:34:22 PM
 ??? don't get it
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: 12(e) on March 20, 2006, 09:52:43 AM
I just picked it up again last night: Dictionary of Modern English Usage


you know what makes me happy?  For the longest time, I didn't know if the word was "accompanist" or "accompanyist"

Turns out, they're both acceptable!! YAY!!!
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Post by: 12(e) on March 20, 2006, 11:18:34 AM
According to DMEU, both are equally acceptable (officially), but the authors prefer the former.  As do I.
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Post by: Fidelio on April 04, 2006, 04:12:57 PM
Anyone read Planet Law School 2 here? I just finished the first 3 chapters, it is about 900 pages I believe , you guy think this would make a good read? Reviews have been awfully mixed...
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Post by: magnumalv on April 04, 2006, 04:33:25 PM
Red recomm that the other day. How is it?
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Post by: magnumalv on April 04, 2006, 04:39:13 PM
Red recomm that the other day. How is it?

She did not!  And if she did, I didn't know about it.  I refuse to be a disciple!

A coworker (who is also applying this cycle) and Chairman (or whatever) Matthies recommended I read it.  I just got it today but I can tell it will be interesting.  It makes me want to watch Chinatown again.


 :D We are all disciples, my friend. Some of you just don't admit it.  :P
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Post by: Freak on April 04, 2006, 04:40:43 PM
I of course am.







of who is the question
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Post by: Fidelio on April 04, 2006, 04:56:04 PM
I of course am.







of who is the question

Very noble of you to admit my friend. ;D
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Post by: Fidelio on April 04, 2006, 04:58:45 PM
I pretty much got fed up with "Peace like a River" by Leif Enger and stopped reading it after the first 30 pages even though it got glowing reviews....


I was wondering if Planet Law School 2 is even worth the read...so far I read the first three chapters, I can say that it appears to keep the law school hopeful on his/her toes...


I also got 1L by Turow to read as well....

Life of Pi was great..
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Post by: magnumalv on April 04, 2006, 05:22:52 PM
Life of Pi was great..

meh.
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Post by: Fidelio on April 04, 2006, 05:24:25 PM
You guys didn't like it? I'll admit the beginning was somewhat dry...
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Post by: Messily on April 05, 2006, 12:52:45 AM
I pretty much got fed up with "Peace like a River" by Leif Enger and stopped reading it after the first 30 pages even though it got glowing reviews....


I was wondering if Planet Law School 2 is even worth the read...so far I read the first three chapters, I can say that it appears to keep the law school hopeful on his/her toes...


I also got 1L by Turow to read as well....

Life of Pi was great..

Funny -- I thought Peace Like A River was really good, but couldn't get past the first chapter of Life of Pi.

Also, One L will make you grateful for technology.  At least we'll never have to worry about photocopying and snail-mailing outlines to our study groups.
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Post by: redemption on April 09, 2006, 06:25:59 AM
I've heard that that's a good book. The chapter on Balinese cockfighting is apparently the best place to start with. They say that it puts everything else into context.
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Post by: redemption on April 09, 2006, 06:32:31 AM
We had a seminar on that in UG. In general, no. In this case, yes.
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Post by: redemption on April 09, 2006, 06:37:25 AM
"Where does a book start?" or something like that. It wasn't as interesting as I thought it would be. It got pretty heated, though.
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 06:39:02 AM
We had a seminar on that in UG. In general, no. In this case, yes.

you had a seminar on being able to read books from front to back?

That's common in lit depts. I took a few Art of the Novel courses. (What exactly is a "novel"?) They were fun.
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 06:40:36 AM
i'm a big fan of the first page theory.

Yes, but what if it's nonsequential/nonlinear?
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 06:46:12 AM
And does the book begin only when you read it? or when the author creates and/or finishes it?
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Post by: redemption on April 09, 2006, 06:46:40 AM
i'm a big fan of the first page theory.

Which one is that, out of interest?
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Post by: redemption on April 09, 2006, 06:49:41 AM
Cover, preface, intro, acknowledgements, etc. They all vie for "first page".
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 06:50:22 AM
i'm a big fan of the first page theory.

Which one is that, out of interest?

the one where the book starts on the first page, naturally.  i just stuck theory at the end of it to sound snooty.  no fair you girls ganging up on me.

the book begins when you start reading it.

Yeha, I figured you were being facetious.

Cover, preface, intro, acknowledgements, etc. They all vie for "first page".

 :P Speedy.
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Post by: redemption on April 09, 2006, 06:55:02 AM
Cover, preface, intro, acknowledgements, etc. They all vie for "first page".

preface. 

i never read acknowledgements.

i always feel slightly guilty about it.

i'm glad geertz kept his short and i was done with them before i realized i was reading them.

Acknowledgements can be fascniating from a sociology of knowledge perspective.
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 06:58:37 AM
Cover, preface, intro, acknowledgements, etc. They all vie for "first page".

preface. 

Yes, but thne you wander into that territory where the book is really more than just the plotline that you've been given--it's also about the author's intentions. And there's no telling where that begins and ends.
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Post by: redemption on April 09, 2006, 07:00:25 AM
they can, but usually they're a long list of names.  it's like reading one of those geneologies in the bible where your eyes just glaze over.

It makes a big difference if you recognize the names.
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 07:01:59 AM
they can, but usually they're a long list of names.  it's like reading one of those geneologies in the bible where your eyes just glaze over.

It makes a big difference if you recognize the names.

Sorta like musical influences in a CD booklet
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Post by: redemption on April 09, 2006, 07:05:12 AM
you realize i'm not qualified to actually argue this.

i was a government major for goodness sakes; i'm not educated.

It makes a big difference if you recognize the names.

okay but i'm not very bright.  :(

they can, but usually they're a long list of names.  it's like reading one of those geneologies in the bible where your eyes just glaze over.

It makes a big difference if you recognize the names.

Sorta like musical influences in a CD booklet

"Yes" to all of the above  :)
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Post by: redemption on April 09, 2006, 07:07:42 AM
They have seminars at your school now?  Are they all optional, or do you more or less have to take one a semester?

Oh, they're all optional. There are tons of lectures, seminars etc. I usually looked over the weekly announcement, picked out the ones that looked interesting (the ones in English were usually boring; the history, classics, philosophy, economics ones were interesting in different ways). The counted for nothing, of course.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on April 09, 2006, 07:08:30 AM
oh you are so not nice to me.

I'm on a kick to rid you of the false modesty. We'll see how well it works.
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Post by: ZinnMaster on April 09, 2006, 09:29:32 AM
I just started reading the Brothers K (seriously, I'm about 9 pages in). I've been reading a lot of non-fiction as of late, so I'm looking to spend the next month reading some good ol' fictional stories. Can anyone recommend a good book of short stories for when I finish the Brothers K? I was thinking perhaps Raymond Carver, any thoughts? Thanks.
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 09:32:27 AM
as in David Duncan or Dostoevsky?
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 09:35:08 AM
I just finished "The devil wears prada" and am now exercising my brain w/TV.  Hehe - I am apparently not as intellectual as the rest.:D .
I actually have a collection of these laughable books - hey everyone gets their pathetic addictions ~ better, and cheaper than smoking!  and yes, I do read the smart stuff too.

Sorry Ian - no suggestions from here.

 

 :D I do too! I am not a book snob a'tall.
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 09:39:53 AM
Oh good...sometimes all the posts on here make me laugh because I am so not as "cool" as the rest.  Glad to know someone else out there helped make these cheesy books bestsellers!

Simple mathematics say that there are more on here than will admit it.  ;) Some are really rather fun. Marian Keyes, for instance. She makes me laugh.
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Post by: ZinnMaster on April 09, 2006, 09:40:54 AM
as in David Duncan or Dostoevsky?


Duncan. I'm not sure how it will be, but I was looking for a fairly quick and entertaining read...so we shall see.
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 09:44:17 AM
as in David Duncan or Dostoevsky?


Duncan. I'm not sure how it will be, but I was looking for a fairly quick and entertaining read...so we shall see.

I don't know about quick. That's pretty epic book.

You'll Carver if you like Kafka, Hemingway, and Chekov. Very minimalist. Very modern.
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Post by: ZinnMaster on April 09, 2006, 09:47:31 AM
Ya, I guess I mean quick in the sense that I have been reading these really depressing and dry non-fiction books as of late, so this book, despite its size, just looks easier to digest. Thanks for the info, I like all of those authors...now I'm off to half.com! What a great site for books!
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Post by: magnumalv on April 09, 2006, 09:51:14 AM
Ya, I guess I mean quick in the sense that I have been reading these really depressing and dry non-fiction books as of late, so this book, despite its size, just looks easier to digest. Thanks for the info, I like all of those authors...now I'm off to half.com! What a great site for books!

YOu should try addall.com. It's even better.
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Post by: ZinnMaster on April 09, 2006, 10:06:29 AM
Nice, I'll take a look at it now. Thanks. Hey, what about this Jesus Son by Denis Johnson? Anybody read that and like it?
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Post by: ->Soon on April 09, 2006, 10:16:31 AM
The Economist.

Really good mag that gives you a general idea of whats going on in the world....
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Post by: Fidelio on April 09, 2006, 10:55:29 AM
Gonna start reading 1L by Turow. 
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Post by: bruin on April 09, 2006, 01:39:36 PM
The Economist.

Really good mag that gives you a general idea of whats going on in the world....

that was me yesterday. Today's reading, unfortunately won't be as enjoyable
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Post by: veg on April 10, 2006, 10:06:09 AM
Gonna start reading 1L by Turow.

Don't. It's a waste of time if you are reading it like it would be any type of accurate assessment of the typical 1L's experience. He's totally nutty.
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Post by: magnumalv on April 10, 2006, 10:17:48 AM
Gonna start reading 1L by Turow.

Don't. It's a waste of time if you are reading it like it would be any type of accurate assessment of the typical 1L's experience. He's totally nutty.

But it's so funny!  :D
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Post by: veg on April 10, 2006, 10:21:39 AM
True. I just didn't realize not to take it seriously when I read it. I got to about 1/2way through, right where he starts to lose it and get all competitive, and was shellshocked. I called a 2L friend of mine, and he set me straight, but all over the place it's recommended as a good look into what 1L is really like, and so I didn't have ANY idea he was so f-ing crazy.
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Post by: magnumalv on April 10, 2006, 10:22:29 AM
True. I just didn't realize not to take it seriously when I read it. I got to about 1/2way through, right where he starts to lose it and get all competitive, and was shellshocked. I called a 2L friend of mine, and he set me straight, but all over the place it's recommended as a good look into what 1L is really like, and so I didn't have ANY idea he was so f-ing crazy.

 :D Yeah, I never took him seriously at all. I was fore-warned.

You guys are so cute!
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Post by: veg on April 10, 2006, 12:17:55 PM
hehe. thanks. :) We think so, too. :D
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Post by: florentino ariza on April 10, 2006, 07:46:03 PM
i miss my hair :(
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Post by: veg on April 11, 2006, 04:32:24 PM
That explains why you're messing up mine. You're jealous. :P ;) :-*
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Post by: ZinnMaster on April 19, 2006, 06:47:53 PM
Finishing up the Brothers K, by Duncan. I'm looking for some international development type book to read next, maybe something dealing with foreign aid...."The Trouble With Africa: Why Foreign Aid Isn't Working" sounds perfect, but I heard it wasn't good. Any suggestions for books along these lines? Thanks.
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Post by: redemption on April 19, 2006, 07:30:30 PM
Finishing up the Brothers K, by Duncan. I'm looking for some international development type book to read next, maybe something dealing with foreign aid...."The Trouble With Africa: Why Foreign Aid Isn't Working" sounds perfect, but I heard it wasn't good. Any suggestions for books along these lines? Thanks.

Read Easterly: The Elusive Quest for Growth.
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Post by: ZinnMaster on April 19, 2006, 07:39:01 PM
Ah, I think you may have suggested a Dr. Farmer book to me at one point, "Pathologies of Power: Health, Human Rights, and the New War on the Poor." It was very good, thank you.
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Post by: redemption on April 19, 2006, 07:40:37 PM
Sure thing. Glad you liked it  :)
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Post by: Pythagoras on April 19, 2006, 07:45:56 PM
Still reading Dorian Gray...
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Post by: Angelina1 on April 19, 2006, 08:00:16 PM
just finished Never Let Me Go, by Kazuo Ishiguro. It was really good, but I cried at the end and i already had a cold so now i can't breathe through my nose.  :-\
[yes, i also cry in movies. very easily.]

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Post by: veg on April 19, 2006, 08:02:45 PM
Still reading Dorian Gray...

That book is weird.
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Post by: H4CS on April 20, 2006, 03:43:26 AM
Finishing up the Brothers K, by Duncan. I'm looking for some international development type book to read next, maybe something dealing with foreign aid...."The Trouble With Africa: Why Foreign Aid Isn't Working" sounds perfect, but I heard it wasn't good. Any suggestions for books along these lines? Thanks.

Read Easterly: The Elusive Quest for Growth.

Don't bother, the book is predominantly mindless.  Here it is in one sentence: People respond to incentives and it's not clear that I, the amazing author, William Easterly, understand basic issues such as transaction costs or institutional capabilities, but, I, William Easterly, know some poor people.

H-J Chang responded to the book beautifully: You could offer me a billion dollars if I won an Olympic gold medal in the marathon at the Beijing Olympics.  It's not going to happen.  You could make it two billion.  Still won't happen.  Easterly doesn't seem to get that incentives only go so far.

Personally, I'd pick up Stiglitz's new Fair Trade for All (It's horribly titled and has nothing to do with the fair trade brand) or Sen's Development as Freedom.  If you're interested in African development, here are some suggestions:


Belshaw, D. and Livingstone, I. (eds), Renewing Development in Sub-Saharan Africa, Policy, Performance and Prospects
Mohan, G. et al. Structural Adjustment, Theory, Practice and Impacts
Nafziger, E.W., The Debt Crisis in Africa
Konadu-Agyemang, K., ed., IMF and World Bank Sponsored Structural Adjustment in Africa: Ghana’s Experience 1983-1999
Ravenhill, J., Africa in Economic Crisis
Stein, H., 'Rethinking African Development', in H.-J. Chang, (ed.), Rethinking Development Economics

Also, Chang's work is often seen as the most accessible, esp Kicking Away the Ladder, which is a quick read and extremely good.
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Post by: SouthSide on April 20, 2006, 04:04:37 AM
Belshaw, D. and Livingstone, I. (eds), Renewing Development in Sub-Saharan Africa, Policy, Performance and Prospects

Dr. Livingstone, I presume?

(Sorry, couldn't pass it up)
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Post by: StepUpT0theMike on April 20, 2006, 11:16:18 AM
Finishing up the Brothers K, by Duncan. I'm looking for some international development type book to read next, maybe something dealing with foreign aid...."The Trouble With Africa: Why Foreign Aid Isn't Working" sounds perfect, but I heard it wasn't good. Any suggestions for books along these lines? Thanks.

Read Easterly: The Elusive Quest for Growth.


Best thing to come out of NYU since, well, Me of course.  ;)
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Post by: ZinnMaster on April 20, 2006, 12:14:04 PM
Just got back from a small used book store next to my house called "On The Road." Anyway, for $12 I picked up:

Fire On The Mountain by Edward Abbey
The Fool's Progress by Edward Abbey
The Complete Short Prose by Samual Becket
The Myth of Sisyphus and other Essays by Albert Camus
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: H4CS on April 20, 2006, 04:06:46 PM
Finishing up the Brothers K, by Duncan. I'm looking for some international development type book to read next, maybe something dealing with foreign aid...."The Trouble With Africa: Why Foreign Aid Isn't Working" sounds perfect, but I heard it wasn't good. Any suggestions for books along these lines? Thanks.

Read Easterly: The Elusive Quest for Growth.


Best thing to come out of NYU since, well, Me of course.  ;)

Easterly wrote this while at the World Bank, where he was fired (along with Joseph Stiglitz and Ravi Kanbur in a hidden purge) for his criticisms.  He then went to DC to work for a think tank and only then to NYU.  His new book was written there, I haven't gotten to it yet, stupid dissertation.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on April 20, 2006, 04:08:00 PM
I am reading... a ginormous collection of the Year's Best Science Fiction (supposedly). So far the title's the only part that contains the "best" of anything.

I have several inches to go, though. :)
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Post by: bruin on April 20, 2006, 09:58:26 PM
Moore v. the Regents of the University of California
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Post by: Cree83 on April 20, 2006, 10:01:51 PM
almost finished with "goodbye to all that," robert graves's autobiography
in the middle of "blindness" by jose saramago
rereading stephen king's "pet sematary,"  i just love that one
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Post by: bruin on April 20, 2006, 10:09:46 PM
Moore v. the Regents of the University of California

The Mo line!

Wait a minute, they're giving that to 1Ls? ???

yeah, its for my genetics and the law class.
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Post by: halfjewhalfgoy on April 20, 2006, 10:10:08 PM
Microsoft Rebooted
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Post by: Mr. Pink on April 28, 2006, 10:51:39 PM
Kant's Political Philosophy
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Post by: redemption on April 28, 2006, 11:03:49 PM
poser  ;)
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Post by: Mr. Pink on April 28, 2006, 11:07:25 PM
poser  ;)

Yes indeed I am.  No shame in my game.  Now only girls would sleep with me for knowing what the Categorial Imperative is than life would be great.  MIght have to move to France.
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Post by: redemption on April 28, 2006, 11:09:13 PM
Nietzsche is King in France, not Kant. Add some Bachelard and Badiou to your game and those French mamas will be all over you.

'Night Magnus
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Post by: shaz on April 28, 2006, 11:11:39 PM
currently: a civil action

before that: hanging out a shingle: an insider's guide to starting your own law firm  


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Post by: Mr. Pink on April 28, 2006, 11:13:28 PM
Nietzsche is King in France, not Kant. Add some Bachelard and Badiou to your game and those French mamas will be all over you.

'Night Magnus

Thanks for increasing my summer reading list.  :)

Night.
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Post by: Steve.jd on April 29, 2006, 03:21:04 AM
poser  ;)

Yes indeed I am.  No shame in my game.  Now only girls would sleep with me for knowing what the Categorial Imperative is than life would be great.  MIght have to move to France.

You don't need to read Kant to know what the Categorical Imperative is, its just one of those things!  :D
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Post by: veg on April 29, 2006, 06:29:07 AM
Just finished Pratchett's Night Watch. Not sure what's next.
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Post by: Mr. Pink on April 29, 2006, 06:49:58 AM
the da vinci code.

liar
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Post by: Mr. Pink on April 29, 2006, 06:53:03 AM
your lying right now.
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Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on April 30, 2006, 04:22:42 PM
Currently Reading:

Enlightened Racism: The Cosby Show, Audiences, and the myth of the American Dream
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Post by: Apples and Oranges on April 30, 2006, 04:25:15 PM
"American Vertigo" by Bernard-Henri Levy
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Post by: maddlibs on May 01, 2006, 12:13:42 AM
Master and Margarita
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Post by: Pythagoras on May 01, 2006, 07:05:23 PM
digital fortress. 

Is that any good?  I'm suffering Brown-withdrawal at the moment.
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Post by: Nemesis on May 01, 2006, 07:47:00 PM
Law School Confidential...and I found this excerpt particularly interesting:

"The last thing you want to do is sink two thousand dollars in the 'prestigious graduate-only dining room' only to discover that it is a long, incovenient walk from the law school, and that you have just condemned yourself to three meals a day with two hermits from the physics lab and a horde of arrogant and elitist business school students networking their heads off."


 >:(
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Post by: TinaTina on May 01, 2006, 08:10:59 PM
Dreamtigers by Borges....I don't know how it took me this long to run into it ???
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Post by: TinaTina on May 01, 2006, 08:14:51 PM
digital fortress. 

Is that any good?  I'm suffering Brown-withdrawal at the moment.

In my opinion, it doesn't incite that need-to-know page-turning that is Brown's ONLY strength and one of the major narratives takes place ENTIRELY in one building but it'll do in a pinch.
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Post by: bruin on May 01, 2006, 08:16:24 PM
Lawrence v. Texas
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Post by: Steve.jd on May 01, 2006, 08:47:10 PM
The Trial

Franz Kafka
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Post by: Alamo on May 01, 2006, 09:41:06 PM
Cardozo's Nature of the Judicial Process - yes, I do need a life.
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Post by: Messily on May 02, 2006, 01:23:40 AM
My Life in France - Julia Child.
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Post by: Mr. Pink on May 02, 2006, 05:35:14 AM
The World is Flat, Im like 2 years late on that one.
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Post by: SouthSide on May 02, 2006, 05:36:55 AM
The Trial

Franz Kafka

How is that book? I'm trying to decide whether to add it to my summer list.

I'm reading Chernow's biography of Hamilton right now. It's really good.
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Post by: SouthSide on May 02, 2006, 05:41:29 AM
Yeah, Hamilton is one of my few true heroes. I think it's funny that he only went to Columbia because he didn't get into Princeton.
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Post by: magnumalv on May 02, 2006, 06:47:42 AM
Cautionary Tales for Children, Edward Gorey
On Food and Cooking, Harold McGee
Prodigy, Dave Kalstein
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Post by: redemption on May 02, 2006, 06:51:49 AM
Cautionary Tales for Children, Edward Gorey
On Food and Cooking, Harold McGee
Prodigy, Dave Kalstein

The single most useful book on cooking out there. A classic.
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Post by: smiley on May 02, 2006, 08:55:35 AM
Just finished Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close by Jonathan Safran Foer.
I wouldn't say it's great, but I enjoyed it and it's highly creative.
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Post by: corbabe on May 02, 2006, 11:08:24 AM
"becoming justice blackmun" by linda greenhouse.  I am only 90 pages in but not to bad, considering it is mostly based on his own personal memos and diaries
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Post by: Pythagoras on May 06, 2006, 07:06:51 PM
Finally finished "The Picture of Dorian Gray".  I still haven't decided if it was insightful or inane.
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Post by: Steve.jd on May 06, 2006, 07:08:18 PM
The Trial

Franz Kafka

How is that book? I'm trying to decide whether to add it to my summer list.

I'm reading Chernow's biography of Hamilton right now. It's really good.

To be honest I should say I'm going to start reading it on Wednesday when finals end ;)

From all accounts though its supposed to be fantastic.
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Post by: philibusters on May 06, 2006, 07:16:39 PM
How was Chernow's biography of Hamilton? I own that yet haven't read it yet.
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Post by: philibusters on May 06, 2006, 09:27:16 PM
How was Chernow's biography of Hamilton? I own that yet haven't read it yet.

it's excellent. 

Sweet that may be the next book I read.  I either want to read that or Bevridge's bios on Marshall, though the academic quality of Bevridge probably will be significantly lower, its more of a gush about Marshall than a real biography, but I want to read it nevertheless.

I recently read his excellency by joseph ellis.  I am a history major, have pretty good taste is biographies and history books and generally recommend ellis--I think he is the most balanced biographer I have read, he has an aloofness and distance about his work that allows him not to gush on his subject, but also not to judge them too hard, that is pretty rare for biographers.

I also read Will in the World recently-its a good biography on Sheakespeare,the author is obviously a fan, and there just isn't enough historical data there to get a feel for who the dude really is, but if you like Shakespeare most people say its the best biography on him yet.

I also recently read  the Dream Life of Sukhanov b Olga Grushin-a 2005 book that is quality fiction.  Her characters are complex, her writing style is complex (at least near the end), but overall its a great book.

Lastly I read Madame Bovary's Ovaries a few months ago and enjoyed it. It went over the great pieces of literature from a evolutionary biologists point of view-asking quesitons like why do men cheat on their lovers so much in works of literature.  It was enjoyable for me, and I'd recommend if you are the type of person who likes books about literature, or books that deal with what I call lighter science (not hardcore physics for example).
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 07, 2006, 06:00:09 AM
Food: A Culinary History (an anthropological look at the history of food)
As I Lay Dying (thought I'd pull out some Faulkner)
the Ramayana
Cod by Kurlansky

I'm on a food/cooking thing at the moment. :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Alamo on May 07, 2006, 07:56:02 AM
The Jungle (Upton Sinclair).

On an unrelated note, I've also decided to become a vegetarian.

I started Joyce's Dubliners a while ago, but it's one of those books that's really easy to put down and not pick back up for a long, long time.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: veg on May 07, 2006, 08:10:23 AM
Finally finished "The Picture of Dorian Gray". I still haven't decided if it was insightful or inane.


A bit of both. I think you really have to reach to find the insightful stuff. I didn't really care for the book, myself.

I've decided on my next book. I'm going to read "For Whom the Bell Tolls," because I've never read any Hemingway. Then I'm going to read Memoirs of a Geisha. I haven't seen the movie yet, because I heard the book was better.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 07, 2006, 10:58:33 AM
The Jungle (Upton Sinclair).

Disgusting, yes, but also very ill-written. IMO. You're better off reading nonfiction works on meat packing and/or immigrant conditions if that's what you're reading it for. As literature, it's sadly lacking.

As for Wilde, he's rarely "insightful," per se. He's like that girl who makes wicked comments behind everyone's back... delightfully capricious and rather snotty. He's at his best when not trying to be serious (at which point he usu. turns maudlin).
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Alamo on May 07, 2006, 11:17:53 AM
Disgusting, yes, but also very ill-written. IMO. You're better off reading nonfiction works on meat packing and/or immigrant conditions if that's what you're reading it for. As literature, it's sadly lacking.

Yeah, his characters seem pretty one-dimensional.  But I'm not really into flowery prose, so I don't mind his style.  Also, I'm only about 80 pages in and I'm finding it more compelling than I imagine I'd find the usually dry non-fictional works on the subject matter (if you have any recommendations, I'm certainly open to them).

Also, it's about more than a terrible industry; it's about immigrant experience and the Chicago political machine.

Also, your moniker is awesome!

Also, scott, that's an excellent first choice for a Hemingway book.  If A Farewell to Arms had been my first, I'd probably never have read another book by him again.

EDIT: If you wish to comment on The Jungle, please post here: http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,61994.0.html
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 07, 2006, 11:36:20 AM
Yeah, his characters seem pretty one-dimensional.  But I'm not really into flowery prose, so I don't mind his style.  Also, I'm only about 80 pages in and I'm finding it more compelling than I imagine I'd find the usually dry non-fictional works on the subject matter (if you have any recommendations, I'm certainly open to them).

Also, it's about more than a terrible industry; it's about immigrant experience and the Chicago political machine.

His prose may not be "flowery," but it certainly is melodromatic, as is the rest of the novel. The truth is, it's less a work about meatpacking/immigrants than it is about how socialism trumps capitalism--hence the yellow journalism aspect of it, which lowers it greatly in my esteem. I think you'd learn more from reading specific history on the Meat Inspection/Pure Food and Drug Acts (in which Sinclair's book played a roll) and labor reforms of the 2nd Industrial Revolution. I don't have specific titles off-hand, but I'm sure others (red? ;)) will pipe in shortly.

Also, your moniker is awesome!

thankya. :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 07, 2006, 11:42:47 AM
I started Joyce's Dubliners a while ago, but it's one of those books that's really easy to put down and not pick back up for a long, long time.

I preferred Portrait of the Artist over Dubliners.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: orlando jackson on May 07, 2006, 12:11:19 PM
juat finished love in the time of cholera, which was good but took a while to read.  now i'll take the plunge and finish the last two volumes of rememberance of things past.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: philibusters on May 07, 2006, 09:27:23 PM
Disgusting, yes, but also very ill-written. IMO. You're better off reading nonfiction works on meat packing and/or immigrant conditions if that's what you're reading it for. As literature, it's sadly lacking.

for a second, i thought you said it was WELL-written, and i was about to yell at you.

my thoughts on sinclair:
1. damned immigrants.
2. ewww.
3. communist propaganda.

There are a ton of do gooders on this site, shouldn't they be defending Sinclair to the teeth.  On the hand, there becomes a point when you can become too cynical, such as when you see suffering and say "damned immigrants, eww, and communist progaganda",  c'mon people always go for the middle ground.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Steve.jd on May 07, 2006, 09:30:46 PM
I thought the jungle was an interesting read, although I read it in 7th grade so I wasn't looking for literary impact ;)  :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: withj on May 07, 2006, 09:32:34 PM
Rights from Wrongs, Alan Dershowitz.

Being Logical, D.Q. McInerny

Radicals in Robes, Cass Sunstein
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Zeveria on May 07, 2006, 10:01:02 PM

David Grossman Smile of the Lamb
Elias Khoury Gate of the Sun
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: LALaw04 on May 07, 2006, 10:12:29 PM
Right now I'm reading Eddie Would Go.  It is the story of Eddie Aikau, big wave surfer and lifeguard at North Shore who ultimately drowned trying to save others. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: dbgirl on May 07, 2006, 10:23:01 PM
Torts.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: philibusters on May 07, 2006, 11:11:54 PM
Torts.


Sounds tasty, unless you are talking about some negligence crap (jk).  We seem to be posting in alot of the same threads DB.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bruin on May 07, 2006, 11:39:28 PM
Criminal Adjudication outline; final in 12 houes >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: veg on May 08, 2006, 03:20:33 PM
finally finished "System of the World" by Neal Stephenson. he writes even more floridly in that cycle than i do. started reading it last fall, lost it in september, found it in december, didn't start reading it again until a week or two ago.

just before that i finished the "lions of al rassan", by guy gavriel kay, which was fantastic. major thanks to dorian for loaning it to me.

currently i'm on sinclair lewis's "it can't happen here"- after that will be "Song of Arbonne" by GGK- followed by TC Boyles' "Worlds End' and lastly William Gibsons "Idoru".
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Erapitt on May 08, 2006, 03:27:25 PM
Just finished "The Bell Jar," which was a great literary read, now moving onto more pop fiction with "The Intelligencer" (supposedly like The Davinci Code, which I couldn't even finish bc I thought it was so dumb) and "The Lincoln Lawyer," which I think will be like a Grisham novel (I don't really care for his books and don't see what all the hype is about but figure why not do some mindless reading?).

Lastly, to keep the brain synapses firing I am re-reading Foucault's "Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison," because I find Foucault's work brilliant, although it loses much in translation to English so I have picked up the french edition.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: veg on May 08, 2006, 03:27:30 PM
juat finished love in the time of cholera, which was good but took a while to read.  now i'll take the plunge and finish the last two volumes of rememberance of things past.

one of the best books i've ever read. (love in the time of cholera)

GGM is TRES SEKSI.

also- Dorian Gray was rad. The Jungle was nifty but kinda dated (and not a great read). For Whom The Bell Tolls is my favorite Hemmingway. probably in my top 5 of all time (along with Catch 22, A Brave New World, Love in the Time of Cholera, and a book i'm forgetting off the top of my head).

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: veg on May 08, 2006, 03:30:50 PM
oooh. foucault is rad.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 08, 2006, 03:47:28 PM
Foucault's interesting, but vastly overrated.

His entire oeuvre and method is an appropriation of Bachelard's, and the only work that's actually enjoyable to read is "I, Pierre Riviere..". He's rather like the modern PhD candidate who uses the ideas of a single theorist and applies it - rather rigidly and unimaginatively - to a particular topic or small set of topics.

I doubt very much that it is his ideas - rather than the coincidence between his sexuality, his work, and the particular moment of gay liberation in the sixties and seventies - that accounts for his popularity and influence.

The same is true of Thomas Kuhn.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: veg on May 08, 2006, 03:49:29 PM
showoff.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 08, 2006, 03:51:39 PM
Nah. I used him in the pornography conversation as a sort of short-hand, and I'm still uncomfortable about having done that  :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: veg on May 08, 2006, 03:52:42 PM
i know you did.

and now you're acting all like he ain'tcho man.

;)

he's useful, i think, but then, i don't know jack about philosophy.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Erapitt on May 08, 2006, 04:06:38 PM
Foucault's interesting, but vastly overrated.

His entire oeuvre and method is an appropriation of Bachelard's, and the only work that's actually enjoyable to read is "I, Pierre Riviere..". He's rather like the modern PhD candidate who uses the ideas of a single theorist and applies it - rather rigidly and unimaginatively - to a particular topic or small set of topics.

I doubt very much that it is his ideas - rather than the coincidence between his sexuality, his work, and the particular moment of gay liberation in the sixties and seventies - that accounts for his popularity and influence.

The same is true of Thomas Kuhn.

Yes, silly me, your Bachelors degree makes you an expert on philosophy and gives you the right to say without doubt that Kuhn and Foucault are frauds lol.

As usual, your ego amazes me.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 08, 2006, 04:08:19 PM
PMSing again, Erapitt?

Click on my LSN and leave me a nasty note. You'll feel better for it.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: veg on May 08, 2006, 04:08:43 PM
*gasp* she has... opinions!

wait.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Erapitt on May 08, 2006, 04:15:59 PM
PMSing again, Erapitt?

Click on my LSN and leave me a nasty note. You'll feel better for it.

I don't even have an LSN account and I have never left anyone a nasty note on there so take your accusations elsewhere.

An opinion is one thing, however, it is a bit ridiculous for someone with a BA to sit here and argue that Foucault is over rated. 

Red, I look forward to the day when even with that Yale law degree you get a swift kick in the face and someone you believe to be inferior beats you out of a position you desire.  You constantly bash me, yet your arrogance isn't much different than my being blunt. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 08, 2006, 04:29:09 PM
I've read more Foucault, and more about Foucault, than you, and I've read more of his predecessors and his inheritors. Given this, I think it is odd - and you should, too - that you can have an opinion on his work, and that I cannot, that your opinion is valid and that mine isn't.

"Swift kick in the face"? You make me laugh.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Erapitt on May 08, 2006, 04:47:42 PM
I've read more Foucault, and more about Foucault, than you, and I've read more of his predecessors and his inheritors. Given this, I think it is odd - and you should, too - that you can have an opinion on his work, and that I cannot, that your opinion is valid and that mine isn't.

"Swift kick in the face"? You make me laugh.


Wait, so now without even knowing me you have read more Foucault than I have?  Maybe you have, maybe you haven't, but how can you automatically make such an assumption?

Go back to being a stuck up brat.  You aren't worth my time.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 08, 2006, 04:49:18 PM
Bye. Make sure you take your meds, though.  :)


EDIT:

I honestly apologize for what I said on LSN.



Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ZinnMaster on May 08, 2006, 05:25:55 PM
Anybody read Exley's A Fans Notes? My friend keeps telling me to read it, but I am not so sure.

Also, there are a lot of books in this thread, but what about poetry? Anybody want to recommend some good poetry? --For my two cents I recently finished Duino Elegies by Rainer Maria Rilke and Ginsberg Selected Poems and Notes, both very good.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: philibusters on May 08, 2006, 05:31:13 PM
Anybody read Exley's A Fans Notes? My friend keeps telling me to read it, but I am not so sure.

Also, there are a lot of books in this thread, but what about poetry? Anybody want to recommend some good poetry? --For my two cents I recently finished Duino Elegies by Rainer Maria Rilke and Ginsberg Selected Poems and Notes, both very good.

I don't get poetry to well.  I like a few poems, sometimes they just strike you, like "autumn begins in martin ferry Ohio" by James Wright, and there are a few poets I like all around like Charles Simic or Joshua Weiner, but in general if I have to stop and think after every line I read, I am overwhelmed with 5 minutes of having started to read.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Erapitt on May 08, 2006, 06:21:12 PM
Bye. Make sure you take your meds, though.  :)


EDIT:

I honestly apologize for what I said on LSN.


Ahh yes, I stand corrected.  I did make one uncalled for comment on LSN AFTER being harrassed on here.  May I burn in hell for all of eternity.

You really need to get a life rather than searching for old posts of mine.

Don't worry, I took my naproxin for my injury, did you take your Xanax?



Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ivywhore on May 09, 2006, 01:52:54 AM
LSD....duh?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: H4CS on May 09, 2006, 10:50:40 AM
Foucault's interesting, but vastly overrated.

His entire oeuvre and method is an appropriation of Bachelard's, and the only work that's actually enjoyable to read is "I, Pierre Riviere..". He's rather like the modern PhD candidate who uses the ideas of a single theorist and applies it - rather rigidly and unimaginatively - to a particular topic or small set of topics.

I doubt very much that it is his ideas - rather than the coincidence between his sexuality, his work, and the particular moment of gay liberation in the sixties and seventies - that accounts for his popularity and influence.

The same is true of Thomas Kuhn.

This sort of argument always struck me as one of the worst kinds of self-serving pseudointellectualism.  Take a well-respected author, find a previous, lesser-known author with similar ideas, and use the latter to undermine the former.  Throw in some references to make it seem like you know your stuff.

Habermas is just a tired rehashing of Franz Neumann, with the obvious exception of the third chapter of structural transformation.   Derrida doesn't say anything that you couldn't get out of Barthes who wrote nothing interesting since his critique of Michelet.  You can do this for music too:  Radiohead is just a tired rehashing of the Mekons who were nothing other than a simplistic mixture of the Kinks and Donovan, except for Fear and Whiskey, which is their only album that you can listen to with headphones in the rain without wanting to kill your brother.  I mean, come on. 

There's no way to argue against this line of reasoning and it serves no purpose than to elevate the person making the argument above even the most thoughtful and well-read of her peers.  Red, there's no argument there (and Gertrude Stein can't hold a candle to Dorothea Parker who just wishes she were HL Mencken...).

162.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 09, 2006, 11:03:44 AM
Foucault's interesting, but vastly overrated.

His entire oeuvre and method is an appropriation of Bachelard's, and the only work that's actually enjoyable to read is "I, Pierre Riviere..". He's rather like the modern PhD candidate who uses the ideas of a single theorist and applies it - rather rigidly and unimaginatively - to a particular topic or small set of topics.

I doubt very much that it is his ideas - rather than the coincidence between his sexuality, his work, and the particular moment of gay liberation in the sixties and seventies - that accounts for his popularity and influence.

The same is true of Thomas Kuhn.

This sort of argument always struck me as one of the worst kinds of self-serving pseudointellectualism.  Take a well-respected author, find a previous, lesser-known author with similar ideas, and use the latter to undermine the former.  Throw in some references to make it seem like you know your stuff.

Habermas is just a tired rehashing of Franz Neumann, with the obvious exception of the third chapter of structural transformation.   Derrida doesn't say anything that you couldn't get out of Barthes who wrote nothing interesting since his critique of Michelet.  You can do this for music too:  Radiohead is just a tired rehashing of the Mekons who were nothing other than a simplistic mixture of the Kinks and Donovan, except for Fear and Whiskey, which is their only album that you can listen to with headphones in the rain without wanting to kill your brother.  I mean, come on. 

There's no way to argue against this line of reasoning and it serves no purpose than to elevate the person making the argument above even the most thoughtful and well-read of her peers.  Red, there's no argument there (and Gertrude Stein can't hold a candle to Dorothea Parker who just wishes she were HL Mencken...).

162.

162 for your misreading of my post.

What else is there to scholarly work in the humanities but either the imaginative reading of some prior text or oeuvre, or the novel combination of several prior works? Nothing. How could you - even if you believed that you'd read my ost correctly - believe that I meant to say what you would have had me say? You couldn't. You're just tying for the sake of it. Fine  ;)

Just in case, though, I'll bold the operative phrase in my post for your convenience.

p.s. If you believe that Derrida is simply appropriating Barthes, you have misunderstood both.  ;)

pps. if, on the other hand, your misreading had as its purpose your wish to demonstrate your knowledge of foucault, Michelet, Barthes and popular music, kudos. I get it, and even though it was self-serving and pseudo-intellectual, it made me smile.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on May 09, 2006, 11:09:14 AM
Foucault's interesting, but vastly overrated.

His entire oeuvre and method is an appropriation of Bachelard's, and the only work that's actually enjoyable to read is "I, Pierre Riviere..". He's rather like the modern PhD candidate who uses the ideas of a single theorist and applies it - rather rigidly and unimaginatively - to a particular topic or small set of topics.

I doubt very much that it is his ideas - rather than the coincidence between his sexuality, his work, and the particular moment of gay liberation in the sixties and seventies - that accounts for his popularity and influence.

The same is true of Thomas Kuhn.

This sort of pedantry always struck me as one of the worst kinds of pseudointellectualism.  Take a well-respected author, find a previous, lesser-known author with similar ideas, and use the latter to undermine the former. 

Habermas is just a tired rehashing of Franz Neumann, Derrida doesn't say anything that you couldn't get out of Barthes who wrote nothing interesting since his critique of Michelet.  You can do this for music too:  Radiohead is just a tired rehashing of the Mekons who were nothing other than a simplistic mixture of the Kinks and Donovan.  I mean, come on. 

There's no way to argue against this line of reasoning and it serves no purpose than to elevate the person making the argument above even the most thoughtful and well-read of her peers.  162.

I agree with all of this except the last bit.  There's plenty to to dispute in red.'s account.  Yes, Foucault took up Canguilhem's/Bachelard's methods and anti-subjectivity, but beyond Birth of a Clinic, there's a hell of a lot more going on.  Most Foucaultians (rightfully) concentrate on his analytics of power (or is this just a Nietzsche redux?) and not his epistemology, but his epistemology also developed significantly between The Order of Things and, say, the second volume of HOS (or is this a mere Plato rehash?). 

I also think that Foucault's special role in certain new social movements (self-determination for prisoners and the mentally ill, gay liberation and later queerness, etc.) makes his work important; it doesn't diminish its intellectual value in my eyes at all.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: H4CS on May 09, 2006, 11:10:46 AM
162 for your misreading of my post.

What else is there to scholarly work in the humanities but either the imaginative reading of some prior text or oeuvre, or the novel combination of several prior works? Nothing. How could you - even if you believed that you'd read my ost correctly - believe that I meant to say what you woould have had me say? You couldn't. You're just tying for the sake of it. Fine  ;)

Just in case, though, I'll bold the operative phrase in my post for your convenience.

p.s. If you believe that Derrida is simply appropriating Barthes, you have misunderstood both.  ;)


You know, you're much more fun when you're moody, we should do this more often.  We both know that's what the humanities are, I never doubted that.  I'm claiming that you are appropriating a specific method of arguing that makes you seem better than your peers and it is not possible to disagree with*.  The bolded statement could have stood on its own, the rest of your post screams "look at me, I'm smarter than you because I can hate on your theorists".

*Although it's cute that you tried by pulling even more rank over Derrida, you're getting back some brownie points.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 09, 2006, 11:16:27 AM
I also think that Foucault's special role in certain new social movements (self-determination for prisoners and the mentally ill, gay liberation and later queerness, etc.) makes his work important; it doesn't diminish its intellectual value in my eyes at all.

Well sure, it's important in that way, and I think that I said so in my post. But to claim that it makes the work itself more profound or original because it was apropriated seems absurd to me, just as it would seem absurd to rate Sylvester's or the Village people's music as brilliant for those same reasons. (Not that I think that you're going there in your position, but just in case that you do).  :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: H4CS on May 09, 2006, 11:20:37 AM
Well sure, it's important in that way, and I think that I said so in my post. But to claim that it makes the work itself more profound or original because it was apropriated seems absurd to me, just as it would seem absurd to rate Sylvester's or the Village people's music as brilliant for those same reasons. (Not that I think that you're going there in your position, but just in case that you do).  :)

Oh my f-ing God, now you're bashing on the village people?  Is nothing sacred to you?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 09, 2006, 11:21:49 AM
162 for your misreading of my post.

What else is there to scholarly work in the humanities but either the imaginative reading of some prior text or oeuvre, or the novel combination of several prior works? Nothing. How could you - even if you believed that you'd read my ost correctly - believe that I meant to say what you woould have had me say? You couldn't. You're just tying for the sake of it. Fine  ;)

Just in case, though, I'll bold the operative phrase in my post for your convenience.

p.s. If you believe that Derrida is simply appropriating Barthes, you have misunderstood both.  ;)


You know, you're much more fun when you're moody, we should do this more often.  We both know that's what the humanities are, I never doubted that.  I'm claiming that you are appropriating a specific method of arguing that makes you seem better than your peers and it is not possible to disagree with*.  The bolded statement could have stood on its own, the rest of your post screams "look at me, I'm smarter than you because I can hate on your theorists".

*Although it's cute that you tried by pulling even more rank over Derrida, you're getting back some brownie points.

You just don't follow my posts very carefully. I (almost) never name-drop, and I almost never cite knowledge in any discussion on this board. This thread, however, is about books. Foucault's books are not worth the read - except for "I, Pierre Riviere".

I didn't know that I had a method of arguing, or even that I was arguing in writing that post.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 09, 2006, 11:22:59 AM
Well sure, it's important in that way, and I think that I said so in my post. But to claim that it makes the work itself more profound or original because it was apropriated seems absurd to me, just as it would seem absurd to rate Sylvester's or the Village people's music as brilliant for those same reasons. (Not that I think that you're going there in your position, but just in case that you do).  :)

Oh my f-ing God, now you're bashing on the village people?  Is nothing sacred to you?

Sylvester is the favored reference here. It screams "look at me! I know my icons of yesteryear."
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: H4CS on May 09, 2006, 11:35:23 AM
Well sure, it's important in that way, and I think that I said so in my post. But to claim that it makes the work itself more profound or original because it was apropriated seems absurd to me, just as it would seem absurd to rate Sylvester's or the Village people's music as brilliant for those same reasons. (Not that I think that you're going there in your position, but just in case that you do).  :)

Oh my f-ing God, now you're bashing on the village people?  Is nothing sacred to you?

Sylvester is the favored reference here. It screams "look at me! I know my icons of yesteryear."

I've never understood the appeal Sylvester has, his entire oeuvre is an appropriation of Candy Darling and Holly Woodlawn and the only work that's enjoyable is off Lights Out San Fransisco.  The same is true of Thomas Kuhn.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 09, 2006, 11:37:13 AM
I've never understood the appeal Sylvester has, his entire oeuvre is an appropriation of Candy Darling and Holly Woodlawn and the only work that's enjoyable is off Lights Out San Fransisco.  The same is true of Thomas Kuhn.

 :D :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Erapitt on May 09, 2006, 11:39:54 AM
"Foucault's books are not worth the read - except for "I, Pierre Riviere."


Countless scholars must be wrong, Red says Foucault is a hack.  I guess I should go throw away all of my Foucault writings.



On a side note "Hallucinating Foucault" is a great fictional account that takes the reader into the mind of a madman.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 09, 2006, 11:41:42 AM
I've never understood the appeal Sylvester has, his entire oeuvre is an appropriation of Candy Darling and Holly Woodlawn and the only work that's enjoyable is off Lights Out San Fransisco.  The same is true of Thomas Kuhn.

Exactly (well, not quite but close enough). You'll notice that no-one plays (or admits to playing) Sylvester to fire up their own musical creativity.

"Foucault's books are not worth the read - except for "I, Pierre Riviere."


Countless scholars must be wrong, Red says Foucault is a hack.  I guess I should go throw away all of my Foucault writings.



On a side note "Hallucinating Foucault" is a great fictional account that takes the reader into the mind of a madman.

Yes, Hallucinating Foucault was fun.
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Post by: Pythagoras on May 09, 2006, 11:53:43 AM
Currently reading Edith Wharton's Custom of the Country.  Only 4 chapters in and I already find it quite entertaining.
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Post by: Erapitt on May 09, 2006, 11:56:27 AM
Anybody have any recommendations for fun, careless reads for a beach vacation?  I just want to relax and be entertained for once.  Everything on the best sellers list stinks to high hell and I alawys find myself digging out complex literature when all I want is to be entertained without being killed by horrible writing.
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Post by: H4CS on May 09, 2006, 12:01:19 PM
Anybody have any recommendations for fun, careless reads for a beach vacation?  I just want to relax and be entertained for once.  Everything on the best sellers list stinks to high hell and I alawys find myself digging out complex literature when all I want is to be entertained without being killed by horrible writing.

I suspect Shantaram is going to be a huge hit soon if it isn't already.  I have mixed feelings about the book and at times the writing is atrocious, but it can be compelling and seems to be the kind of good beach read you're seeking.  Once the movie comes out with Johnny Depp in it, everyone will read it.
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Post by: Fidelio on May 09, 2006, 12:25:07 PM
Still on One L by Turow.   :-\
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Post by: Erapitt on May 09, 2006, 12:26:53 PM
Anybody have any recommendations for fun, careless reads for a beach vacation?  I just want to relax and be entertained for once.  Everything on the best sellers list stinks to high hell and I alawys find myself digging out complex literature when all I want is to be entertained without being killed by horrible writing.

Have you read Kerouac?  On the Road if you haven't.

I liked Vonnegut's new book, A Man Without A Country.  Ian McEwan's Amsterdam, David Mitchell's number9dream, Dave Eggers's You Shall Know Our Velocity!--these three are probably "literary" depending on how you define things, but I wouldn't call them "complex" literature, it's not like we're talking about Paradise Lost or Spenser's F.Q., or even something contemporary that's maybe too dense to be fun like John Banville.

I have read just about everything vonnegut, Kerouac as well, but never any Ian McEwan.  I hear he writes well but the stories never seem to catch me. 

I will check out some of the others.
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Post by: Miss P on May 09, 2006, 12:45:02 PM
I also think that Foucault's special role in certain new social movements (self-determination for prisoners and the mentally ill, gay liberation and later queerness, etc.) makes his work important; it doesn't diminish its intellectual value in my eyes at all.

Well sure, it's important in that way, and I think that I said so in my post. But to claim that it makes the work itself more profound or original because it was apropriated seems absurd to me, just as it would seem absurd to rate Sylvester's or the Village people's music as brilliant for those same reasons. (Not that I think that you're going there in your position, but just in case that you do).  :)

First, this is a Spaulding-level, absolutely hilarious post, and I tip my hat to you since I can't well meet your wit.

Second, I wouldn't argue that Foucault's work was appropriated by these social movements, but that Foucault took up the role of "specific intellectual," engaging and helping to develop them throughout his life.  This is rather different from the role of Sylvester in the post-Stonewall gay liberation movement; it's much closer to the role of someone like Errol Morris or Michael Moore to the MoveOn set.  But I still think this is a rather crummy analogy.

I think some of Foucault's work (specifically his domain/subject matter and some of his later, more speculative stuff) is quite original, yet I also think originality, per se, may be somewhat overrated.  He was brilliant; he was politically engaged; he was well read; he was terribly funny; he was hot.  What more can you ask for?
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Post by: redemption on May 09, 2006, 01:26:20 PM
First, this is a Spaulding-level, absolutely hilarious post, and I tip my hat to you since I can't well meet your wit.

Second, I wouldn't argue that Foucault's work was appropriated by these social movements, but that Foucault took up the role of "specific intellectual," engaging and helping to develop them throughout his life.  This is rather different from the role of Sylvester in the post-Stonewall gay liberation movement; it's much closer to the role of someone like Errol Morris or Michael Moore to the MoveOn set.  But I still think this is a rather crummy analogy.

I think some of Foucault's work (specifically his domain/subject matter and some of his later, more speculative stuff) is quite original, yet I also think originality, per se, may be somewhat overrated.  He was brilliant; he was politically engaged; he was well read; he was terribly funny; he was hot.  What more can you ask for?

You should read Erapitt's recommendation - "Hallucinating Foucault". You're beginning to remind me of the central character in that novel.  :D
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Post by: terralily on May 09, 2006, 01:37:56 PM
Just finished Palaniuk's Choke.  I love him. 
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Post by: Miss P on May 09, 2006, 01:41:31 PM
First, this is a Spaulding-level, absolutely hilarious post, and I tip my hat to you since I can't well meet your wit.

Second, I wouldn't argue that Foucault's work was appropriated by these social movements, but that Foucault took up the role of "specific intellectual," engaging and helping to develop them throughout his life.  This is rather different from the role of Sylvester in the post-Stonewall gay liberation movement; it's much closer to the role of someone like Errol Morris or Michael Moore to the MoveOn set.  But I still think this is a rather crummy analogy.

I think some of Foucault's work (specifically his domain/subject matter and some of his later, more speculative stuff) is quite original, yet I also think originality, per se, may be somewhat overrated.  He was brilliant; he was politically engaged; he was well read; he was terribly funny; he was hot.  What more can you ask for?

You should read Erapitt's recommendation - "Hallucinating Foucault". You're beginning to remind me of the central character in that novel.  :D

 :D  I have actually picked it up a number of times at the library, but I haven't read it.  It looks a bit sentimental for my tastes.  Have I misjudged it?
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Post by: redemption on May 09, 2006, 01:52:43 PM
Sentimental? Not at all.
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Post by: Miss P on May 09, 2006, 01:56:53 PM
Sentimental? Not at all.

I don't know what I was thinking.  It seemed to have a sort of Duras quality or something.  But now I'll check it out.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: SouthSide on May 10, 2006, 04:43:15 AM
Anybody have any recommendations for fun, careless reads for a beach vacation?  I just want to relax and be entertained for once.  Everything on the best sellers list stinks to high hell and I alawys find myself digging out complex literature when all I want is to be entertained without being killed by horrible writing.

If you want a fun quick read, you can't go wrong with Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 10, 2006, 03:30:39 PM
From the LA Times

April 30, 2006

When Lisa Jardine and Annie Watkins asked hundreds of British female academics, teachers, writers, publishers and literature students what book had changed their lives, many respondents wondered whether there would be a male version of the survey as well. Jardine and Watkins complied: The results were fascinating in their own right, and more intriguing when juxtaposed with the findings for women. Not only did men and women find different books to be meaningful, but they approached reading in divergent ways.

*

Men's Fiction - Top Five (sic)

1. "The Outsider," Albert Camus
2. "Catcher in the Rye," J.D. Salinger
3. "Slaughterhouse Five,"Kurt Vonnegut
4. "One Hundred Years of Solitude," Gabriel Garcia Marquez
4. "The Hobbit," J.R.R. Tolkien
5. "Catch-22,"Joseph Heller

Women's Fiction - Top Five (sic)

1. "Jane Eyre,"Charlotte Bronte
2. "Wuthering Heights,"Emily Bronte
3. "The Handmaid's Tale,"Margaret Atwood
4. "Middlemarch,"George Eliot
5. "Pride and Prejudice,"Jane Austen
5. "Beloved," Toni Morrison

Other findings:

•  No male authors made the women's top five, and no female authors made the men's top five.

•  Only four books made both top 20 lists.

•  Six male authors broke the women's top 20, but only one book by a female author made the men's top 20: "To Kill a Mockingbird" by Harper Lee.

•  Older men were more likely to cite female authors as influential.

•  Men were most likely to have read their formative books as adolescents.

•  Women were more likely to read books to cope with difficult times.

•  Men were more likely to cite particular authors as "mentors," particularly, among these British residents, George Orwell.

•  Women liked shared, hand-me-down books; men liked new books and hardbacks.

•  Women had a more diverse list of favorites — 400 women named 200 books.

•  Men answered the question of what book marked a watershed moment more reluctantly than women.
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Post by: Miss P on May 10, 2006, 08:55:46 PM
This is interesting.  Thanks for posting, red.!

Obviously the books people choose to name in a study like this are determined by a number of factors other than sheer brilliance, and life-changing can mean a lot of different things (for one, some people -- and, I would imagine, women; racial, ethnic, and religious minorities; and immigrants in particular -- feel an impulse to name works that are meaningful to them but that they perceive to be marginalized within the canon), BUT I am nonetheless really surprised by the differences between the men's and women's responses.  I'd love to see the results broken out in other ways, too.

Also, I know this is heresy around here, but very few of those books have changed my life in any perceptible way (in particular, I mean, none of the top-five men's). 

From the LA Times

[EDIT to fix some typos, nothing substantive]
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: veg on May 10, 2006, 09:05:32 PM
Just finished Palaniuk's Choke.  I love him. 

i need to read this.

did i mention i just finished diary?
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Post by: veg on May 10, 2006, 09:06:40 PM
god Camus is such a *&^%. i f-ing hate Camus. almost as worthless as Satre.
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Post by: 2Lacoste on May 10, 2006, 09:08:18 PM
Manliness.  Harvey Mansfield.
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Post by: CALIMAN on May 10, 2006, 09:10:03 PM
From a Logical Point of View



V.W. Quine

I figure it helps for Contract Law.
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Post by: Lily Jaye on May 11, 2006, 04:40:29 AM
Manliness.  Harvey Mansfield.

Do I get a prize for figuring this out?
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Post by: SouthSide on May 11, 2006, 04:43:23 AM
god Camus is such a sh*t. i f-ing hate Camus. almost as worthless as Satre.

Wow, hostile. What did he do to you? I'm a big Camus fan, but I dislike Sartre.

At the moment, I'm reading Dworkin's Taking Rights Seriously, which is pretty good.
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Post by: magnumalv on May 11, 2006, 06:32:18 AM
Cod by Kurlansky (it's a neat fish)

Still picking my way through On Food and Cooking.

Just started the Hamilton bio. And picked up Eisenhower's autobio while I was in the section.
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Post by: half-jew half-goy on May 11, 2006, 06:33:32 AM
just finished pipe dreams about enron and will begin reading rust to riches today.
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Post by: magnumalv on May 11, 2006, 07:02:49 AM
how many books do you read in a week, 小羽毛 ?

usually 5-6
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Post by: magnumalv on May 11, 2006, 07:10:31 AM
Where do you people come from?

We're spawn of the devil. >:D
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Post by: SouthSide on May 11, 2006, 07:15:40 AM
Where do you people come from?

We're spawn of the devil. >:D

5-6 is pretty good.  i do about 10 a week.

Are you serious? That's amazing.
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Post by: magnumalv on May 11, 2006, 07:16:37 AM
Where do you people come from?

We're spawn of the devil. >:D

5-6 is pretty good.  i do about 10 a week.

Are you serious? That's amazing.

well, consider what else he has to do during the week.  :D
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Post by: redemption on May 11, 2006, 07:21:10 AM

Are you serious? That's amazing.

lol.
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Post by: magnumalv on May 11, 2006, 07:22:43 AM

Are you serious? That's amazing.

lol.

snob.  :P
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Post by: magnumalv on May 11, 2006, 07:27:19 AM
oops, i left out the word pages.  ;)

seriously though, if i cut out lsd and replaced that time with reading, i could probably do 10 a week.

bum  :P
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: SouthSide on May 11, 2006, 07:30:07 AM
It seemed high to me, but then I thought that if I was in the desert with nothing to do, I could probably read 10 books a week, so it seemed possible. I'm no good at picking up on sarcasm on these threads.
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Post by: redemption on May 11, 2006, 07:33:40 AM
It seemed high to me, but then I thought that if I was in the desert with nothing to do, I could probably read 10 books a week, so it seemed possible. I'm no good at picking up on sarcasm on these threads.

If Stanley makes a claim that is NOT self-deprecating, he's being sarcastic.
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Post by: SouthSide on May 11, 2006, 07:35:19 AM
It seemed high to me, but then I thought that if I was in the desert with nothing to do, I could probably read 10 books a week, so it seemed possible. I'm no good at picking up on sarcasm on these threads.

If Stanley makes a claim that is NOT self-deprecating, he's being sarcastic.

actually, not true.  i've substantially reduced the amount of self-deprecation i produce lately.  i'm hurt you haven't noticed.

Sarcasm?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 11, 2006, 07:40:44 AM

actually, not true.  i've substantially reduced the amount of self-deprecation i produce lately.  i'm hurt you haven't noticed.

I should have said "a claim about himself, or that isn't about either his co-workers or CLS".

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 11, 2006, 07:41:23 AM
I should have said "a claim about himself and Asians, or that isn't about either his co-workers or CLS".

added a bit
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Post by: magnumalv on May 11, 2006, 07:44:46 AM
i've made non-CLS-related non-self-deprecating statements. 

but they are rare. like blue M&Ms
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr. Pink on May 12, 2006, 04:32:55 AM
The Crazed by Ha Jin
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Alamo on May 12, 2006, 08:22:16 AM
I'm about to start Dickens' Bleak House.  It was recommended by a torts prof at an ASW as a good perspective on what long, drawn-out court cases can do to people.  I have a feeling this might be even more painful than The Jungle!
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Post by: magnumalv on May 12, 2006, 09:19:01 AM
dickens makes me sleepy :)
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Post by: rojo on May 12, 2006, 09:19:57 AM
Like hot cocoa?
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Post by: magnumalv on May 12, 2006, 09:21:10 AM
Like hot cocoa?

 :D yeah, but not as yummy
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Post by: rojo on May 12, 2006, 09:23:52 AM
or as fattening.
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Post by: philibusters on May 12, 2006, 02:32:28 PM
I'm about to start Dickens' Bleak House.  It was recommended by a torts prof at an ASW as a good perspective on what long, drawn-out court cases can do to people.  I have a feeling this might be even more painful than The Jungle!

I think PBS just recently made Bleak House into a mini-series type thing.
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Post by: Miss P on May 12, 2006, 02:36:01 PM
I'm about to start Dickens' Bleak House.  It was recommended by a torts prof at an ASW as a good perspective on what long, drawn-out court cases can do to people.  I have a feeling this might be even more painful than The Jungle!

I think PBS just recently made Bleak House into a mini-series type thing.

It's supposed to be really good, too.  Gillian Anderson. I think most stations are replaying it this summer.
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Post by: Thou on May 14, 2006, 03:05:48 PM
The Schools We Need : And Why We Don't Have Them
by E.D. Hirsch Jr

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385495242/sr=8-1/qid=1147640561/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-3478527-4431119?%5Fencoding=UTF8
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Post by: Vannabunny on May 14, 2006, 03:06:45 PM
The Gospel of Judas
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ZinnMaster on May 19, 2006, 10:20:47 AM
I am currently finishing up Fools Progress by Edward Abbey. I'm waiting on a book that I ordered from half.com, but in the meantime I am trying to decide the next fiction book that I should read. Any suggestions, currently I am considering:

My Heart Is A Lonely Hunter
The River Why
Darkness at Noon
Fans Notes
Bobby Fischer (non fiction)


I, recently finished The Brothers K (Duncan) and really liked it. Anybody know of anything similar?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Thou on May 19, 2006, 10:22:47 AM
I am currently finishing up Fools Progress by Edward Abbey. I'm waiting on a book that I ordered from half.com, but in the meantime I am trying to decide the next fiction book that I should read. Any suggestions, currently I am considering:

My Heart Is A Lonely Hunter
The River Why
Darkness at Noon
Fans Notes
Bobby Fischer (non fiction)


I, recently finished The Brothers K (Duncan) and really liked it. Anybody know of anything similar?

You like chess?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Achilles on May 19, 2006, 10:23:46 AM
wow the heart is a lonely hunger is a great novel ! I loved it! Now, I'm reading the first book in teh Dune series.
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Post by: Alamo on May 19, 2006, 10:24:54 AM
wow the heart is a lonely hunter is a great novel !

It's also a sappy country song most famously sung by Reba McIntyre.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 11:39:44 AM
Finishing up the Hamilton bio
The Memory Artists by Jeffrey Moore
The Year of Magical Thinking by Joan Didion
Life of the Man Who Fell Asleep by Greg Stekelman
Manuals for Cad programs (fun)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 11:59:40 AM
A Didion kick, huh?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 12:00:52 PM
A Didion kick, huh?

Nah, it was just sitting next to the Hamilton bio on the "new" biography shelf, so I picked it up.

It's very sad.  :'(
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 12:03:13 PM
A Didion kick, huh?

Nah, it was just sitting next to the Hamilton bio on the "new" biography shelf, so I picked it up.

It's very sad.  :'(

Yes, it is. She's a wonderful writer, I think.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 12:04:46 PM
Yes, it is. She's a wonderful writer, I think.

I know. :)

What are you reading?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 12:13:31 PM
Yes, it is. She's a wonderful writer, I think.

I know. :)

What are you reading?

Back copies of Dissent. They've piled up and I'm behind  :-[
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Post by: jorge on May 19, 2006, 12:17:26 PM
I, recently finished The Brothers K (Duncan) and really liked it. Anybody know of anything similar?
Well, um, there is this one book.  ;)
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Post by: Thou on May 19, 2006, 12:18:35 PM
a book on self-discipline.

umm.. i'll give it 1 star.. not working very well

I've tried those...could never get around to finishing them.
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Post by: Steve.jd on May 19, 2006, 12:21:20 PM
Anyone here read The Economist?  I love it!  The partner I work for got me a subscription for Christmas.

I <3 the economist
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 12:25:59 PM
Yes, it is. She's a wonderful writer, I think.

I know. :)

What are you reading?

Back copies of Dissent. They've piled up and I'm behind  :-[

liberal  :P

 ;D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 12:29:53 PM
I, recently finished The Brothers K (Duncan) and really liked it. Anybody know of anything similar?
Well, um, there is this one book.  ;)

 :D deja vu
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Erapitt on May 19, 2006, 12:30:16 PM
Just finished The Lincoln Lawyer.  It was actually a pretty good read but fell a bit flat towards the end.

Now reading a book called House, and so far it sucks.  So much for good mindless reading this summer.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 12:31:33 PM

liberal  :P

 ;D

I wish I could read rightist stuff without my brain seizing up and grinding to a halt, but I can't, unfortunately.  ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 12:32:54 PM
Just finished The Lincoln Lawyer.  It was actually a pretty good read but fell a bit flat towards the end.

Now reading a book called House, and so far it sucks.  So much for good mindless reading this summer.

Try "The Crimson Petal and the White".
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 12:34:31 PM

liberal  :P

 ;D

I wish I could read rightist stuff without my brain seizing up and grinding to a halt, but I can't, unfortunately.  ;)

That, of course, is the point. How else are we to get rid of you?  ;D

Just finished The Lincoln Lawyer.  It was actually a pretty good read but fell a bit flat towards the end.

Now reading a book called House, and so far it sucks.  So much for good mindless reading this summer.

Try "The Crimson Petal and the White".

 :D It's like a dime store romance novel on historical steroids.
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Post by: Miss P on May 19, 2006, 12:36:30 PM

liberal  :P

 ;D

I wish I could read rightist stuff without my brain seizing up and grinding to a halt, but I can't, unfortunately.  ;)

Maybe that's what happened to my brain!  I read a couple of chapters of The Tragedy of American Compassion recently.  Incidentally, red., following our conversatin in the Cosby thread, you might actually like some of it.  :)
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Post by: Miss P on May 19, 2006, 12:37:23 PM
Just finished The Lincoln Lawyer.  It was actually a pretty good read but fell a bit flat towards the end.

Now reading a book called House, and so far it sucks.  So much for good mindless reading this summer.

Try "The Crimson Petal and the White".

Tee-hee.  I really kind of enjoyed this one.  And all those Sarah Waters books, though I haven't read the new one.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 12:40:11 PM

liberal  :P

 ;D

I wish I could read rightist stuff without my brain seizing up and grinding to a halt, but I can't, unfortunately.  ;)

Maybe that's what happened to my brain!  I read a couple of chapters of The Tragedy of American Compassion recently.  Incidentally, red., following our conversatin in the Cosby thread, you might actually like some of it.  :)

I'm actually going to put yet another Rorty quote up in the "Favorite Quotations" thread about you Foucauldians and how you exasperate me  :D

Tragedy of American Compassion? I'll check it out
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 12:42:06 PM
Just finished The Lincoln Lawyer.  It was actually a pretty good read but fell a bit flat towards the end.

Now reading a book called House, and so far it sucks.  So much for good mindless reading this summer.

Try "The Crimson Petal and the White".

Tee-hee.  I really kind of enjoyed this one.  And all those Sarah Waters books, though I haven't read the new one.

I like Sara Waters.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on May 19, 2006, 12:44:16 PM

liberal  :P

 ;D

I wish I could read rightist stuff without my brain seizing up and grinding to a halt, but I can't, unfortunately.  ;)

Maybe that's what happened to my brain!  I read a couple of chapters of The Tragedy of American Compassion recently.  Incidentally, red., following our conversatin in the Cosby thread, you might actually like some of it.  :)

I'm actually going to put yet another Rorty quote up in the "Favorite Quotations" thread about you Foucauldians and how you exasperate me  :D

Tragedy of American Compassion? I'll check it out

 :D

I'm only really a Foucaultian (for whatever reason I've always preferred the 't' spelling) on an aesthetic basis.  My heart lies with Marx you know!

As for TToAC, no, actually, don't bother.  I think you'd hate it.  It's really incredibly elitist and snide and anti-welfare and such.

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Post by: Miss P on May 19, 2006, 12:45:41 PM
Try "The Crimson Petal and the White".

Tee-hee.  I really kind of enjoyed this one.  And all those Sarah Waters books, though I haven't read the new one.

For fast-going, purple-prosed, historical-ish fiction, I liked Dorothy Dunnet's silly seven-book series - both the Lymond Chronicals and the Niccolo ones.

I'll check these out this summer for plane reading!  Thanks, archival!

I like Sara Waters.

Eek.  Apologies to Ms. Waters for my bad spelling.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 12:46:37 PM
Try "The Crimson Petal and the White".

Tee-hee.  I really kind of enjoyed this one.  And all those Sarah Waters books, though I haven't read the new one.

For fast-going, purple-prosed, historical-ish fiction, I liked Dorothy Dunnet's silly seven-book series - both the Lymond Chronicals and the Niccolo ones.

I'll check these out this summer for plane reading!  Thanks, archival!

I like Sara Waters.

Eek.  Apologies to Ms. Waters for my bad spelling.

No, it's Sarah.
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Post by: southerncowboy on May 19, 2006, 12:46:40 PM
just completed Fortune Tellers and about to start Den of thieves.
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Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 12:54:50 PM

I'm only really a Foucaultian (for whatever reason I've always preferred the 't' spelling) on an aesthetic basis.  My heart lies with Marx you know!

As for TToAC, no, actually, don't bother.  I think you'd hate it.  It's really incredibly elitist and snide and anti-welfare and such.

Marx? I'd never have guessed it. I thought it was Foucault & Judith Butler with a dash of Lyotard.
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Post by: Miss P on May 19, 2006, 01:01:44 PM

I'm only really a Foucaultian (for whatever reason I've always preferred the 't' spelling) on an aesthetic basis.  My heart lies with Marx you know!

As for TToAC, no, actually, don't bother.  I think you'd hate it.  It's really incredibly elitist and snide and anti-welfare and such.

Marx? I'd never have guessed it. I thought it was Foucault & Judith Butler with a dash of Lyotard.

 :'( I know all about your esteem for Judy B.:

My favorite piece of writing by Martha is the public spanking that she delivered to Judith Butler in TNR... I have a link to that somewhere
Etc. etc.

No, really, I'm more of an Althusserian type.  But being queer has forced me to endure some strange bedfellows, alongside those you mentioned.  And I do absolutely adore MF, as you know.  I just think he's wrong about a good 60-70% of things.
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Post by: Mr. Pink on May 19, 2006, 01:07:03 PM
Should I read "Beloved"?  What did you think when you read this book?
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Post by: ZinnMaster on May 19, 2006, 01:48:03 PM
I am currently finishing up Fools Progress by Edward Abbey. I'm waiting on a book that I ordered from half.com, but in the meantime I am trying to decide the next fiction book that I should read. Any suggestions, currently I am considering:

My Heart Is A Lonely Hunter
The River Why
Darkness at Noon
Fans Notes
Bobby Fischer (non fiction)


I, recently finished The Brothers K (Duncan) and really liked it. Anybody know of anything similar?

You like chess?




Actually, I'm just starting to get into it. Bobby Fischer really interests me though, I am kind of suprised there is not more stuff on him out there (documentaries, books, etc.). Or maybe there is and I just can't find it.
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Post by: ZinnMaster on May 19, 2006, 01:52:16 PM
A Didion kick, huh?

Nah, it was just sitting next to the Hamilton bio on the "new" biography shelf, so I picked it up.

It's very sad.  :'(

Yes, it is. She's a wonderful writer, I think.


Never read Didion, which one should I start with and/or is her best?
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Post by: fuwaf on May 19, 2006, 01:55:39 PM
I'm reading The Picture of Dorian Gray
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Post by: H4CS on May 19, 2006, 01:56:35 PM
I think it's time to rename this thread: Man Reading Pynchon On Bus Takes Pains To Make Cover Visible
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Post by: Miss P on May 19, 2006, 01:59:25 PM
Hey, some of us were talking about smut.  Historical smut, but smut nonetheless.
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Post by: H4CS on May 19, 2006, 02:03:34 PM
Hey, some of us were talking about smut.  Historical smut, but smut nonetheless.

So you get off to Althusser too?  I thought I was the only one.

We have all certainly masturbated with Capital and are currently masturbating with Capital.
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Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 02:04:02 PM
A Didion kick, huh?

Nah, it was just sitting next to the Hamilton bio on the "new" biography shelf, so I picked it up.

It's very sad.  :'(

Yes, it is. She's a wonderful writer, I think.


Never read Didion, which one should I start with and/or is her best?

"Where I was From" is a reasonable intro. Her nonfiction is super.

Her best is "The White Album".
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Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 02:05:15 PM
So you get off to Althusser too?  I thought I was the only one.

Umm. Leave Althusser out of this.  ::)
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Post by: H4CS on May 19, 2006, 02:06:50 PM
So you get off to Althusser too?  I thought I was the only one.

Umm. Leave Althusser out of this.  ::)

I'll do it For You.

God, I want to shoot myself.
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Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 02:11:59 PM
Just as long as it's not on the subway or on a Pride parade.
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Post by: Miss P on May 19, 2006, 02:13:08 PM
Never.  And I have no Pride, you know that.
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Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 02:14:37 PM
Damn. I keep forgetting that part. I should have been more tender as a Sitter.
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Post by: H4CS on May 19, 2006, 02:17:50 PM
You guys are into Sitting?

I think that s3x is hot.

This is more fun than it seems.
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Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 02:23:53 PM
I need to get out more. Experiment and so forth.
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Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 02:40:09 PM
 ???
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Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 02:43:20 PM
???

Oh, me too, Maggs, me too.  :D
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Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 02:44:27 PM
I changed my settings to see what it was like to read everything top to bottom. It's weird.
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Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 02:49:46 PM
Not Gmail.

I think I'm gonna change back. Damn new tricks.
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Post by: redemption on May 19, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
It's so much better this way, though. It takes a day to get used to it, and then it's great.
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Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 02:52:56 PM
Meh...

I'm reading a magazine supposedly about Quark Xpress, but all the articles are about Photoshop.  >:(
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Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 02:54:44 PM
Not Gmail.

I think I'm gonna change back. Damn new tricks.

Yes gmail (new on top).

In the inbox, perhaps, but not when you are reading the newest email in-line with the rest of the conversation. At least, not in mine.
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Post by: magnumalv on May 19, 2006, 02:57:56 PM
I <heart> gmail.

seconded
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Post by: ZinnMaster on May 19, 2006, 03:03:12 PM
Gmail chat rocks.
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Post by: Mr. Pink on May 19, 2006, 09:00:06 PM
Anyone here read The Economist?  I love it!  The partner I work for got me a subscription for Christmas.

I love the Economist.

Oh yeah, and I'm starting Shadow of the Hegemon right now.

I'm finally working my way through the Ender series, I just didn't have time to read them all before.  Every time I start one I end up not being able to put it down and I pull an all nighter so I can finish it!

That's not Ender, that's Bean.  First 4 are the Ender Quartet and the last 4 are the Bean Quartet.  I've read all and when i read them I couldnt put them down.  Read all of them the first week they were out.  Excellent sci-fi.
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Post by: ibroadrunr on May 19, 2006, 09:06:04 PM
very belated tag
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Post by: Mr. Pink on May 19, 2006, 09:12:58 PM
very belated tag

:P
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Post by: ibroadrunr on May 20, 2006, 10:00:10 AM
very belated tag

:P

Oh, fine.  Straw Men (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/051512950X/sr=8-5/qid=1148140670/ref=pd_bbs_5/104-6071579-2388727?%5Fencoding=UTF8) by Martin J. Smith.  Just finished The Body Farm (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0425201449/qid=1148140726/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-6071579-2388727?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) by Patricia Cornwell.

Apparently I'm on a mystery kick.
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Post by: fuwaf on May 20, 2006, 10:58:29 AM
I've read all of Patricia Cornwell's books but her last ones suck.  I might sell the whole batch on ebay before I move.
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Post by: Miss P on May 20, 2006, 11:12:51 AM
I've read all of Patricia Cornwell's books but her last ones suck.  I might sell the whole batch on ebay before I move.

I have never confessed this in public before (seriously, I take off the jackets and hide the spines), but I am a full-on Patricia Cornwell addict.  Her writing and politics are atrocious, but the plots stay pretty good, at least up until Unnatural Exposure.  I actually rather enjoyed Predator, the most recent Scarpetta, but it was so very strange.  Anyone know anything about this new one coming out Tuesday?  It's not a Scarpetta, is it?
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Post by: fuwaf on May 20, 2006, 11:16:53 AM
I've been reading her books for years and I think they are delightfully morbid.  I read a lot of garbage books and I'm sure most people think it's all crap, but whatever.  I don't know anything about her next book...
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Post by: Mr. Pink on May 20, 2006, 11:18:19 AM
Bluest Eyes, Toni Morrison.
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Post by: Miss P on May 20, 2006, 11:20:00 AM
I've been reading her books for years and I think they are delightfully morbid.  I read a lot of garbage books and I'm sure most people think it's all crap, but whatever.  I don't know anything about her next book...

Here, Melbel: coming out Tuesday! (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0399153624/104-2870572-4015125?v=glance&n=283155)
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Post by: ibroadrunr on May 20, 2006, 12:27:36 PM
I've read all of Patricia Cornwell's books but her last ones suck.  I might sell the whole batch on ebay before I move.

I might buy them from you, although you'd probably make more on eBay than I'd offer.  I'm in the Richmond area for the summer, and it makes them that much more fun.
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Post by: fuwaf on May 20, 2006, 04:00:37 PM
I've read all of Patricia Cornwell's books but her last ones suck.  I might sell the whole batch on ebay before I move.

I might buy them from you, although you'd probably make more on eBay than I'd offer.  I'm in the Richmond area for the summer, and it makes them that much more fun.

I'll let you know what I decide.  I was on a frenzy earlier this year and sold a load of books I had lying around to lighten the load for when I move.  I used to read books over and over and over again but I think I'm getting past that phase and need to clear old ones our for the new. :)
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Post by: veg on May 24, 2006, 09:31:41 PM
enders game is fantastic.

the bull geopolitics of enders shadow etc. made it unreadable. along with cards love of kiddie porn. it was f-ing formulaic and bad, which is too bad, because enders game was magnificent. he's incredibly overrated.

i'm reading TC Boyles "Worlds End" right now. first novel of his i've read, though i've read a lot of his short fiction. dude can f-ing write. PREFTIGIOUS.
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Post by: Apples and Oranges on May 24, 2006, 10:17:18 PM
Finished American Vertigo and Wild Swans, did Middlesex over the weekend on a roadtrip, and I'm a few hundred pages into Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell right now  :) It's amusing and light so far...  :)
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Post by: fuwaf on May 25, 2006, 08:00:42 AM
Emma by Jane Austen
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Post by: Pythagoras on May 25, 2006, 08:06:01 AM
Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler.  And in that order.

You must find those articles very edifying.  :)
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Post by: Bow Tied Up on May 25, 2006, 08:42:05 AM
I had to read Cornwell books back in high school for AP Biology...a bit weird.

Currently reading "The World Is Flat" - by Friedman.
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Post by: Miss P on May 25, 2006, 10:28:17 AM
I had to read Cornwell books back in high school for AP Biology...a bit weird.

Currently reading "The World Is Flat" - by Friedman.

I'm sorry.

and

I'm sorry.
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Post by: Angelina1 on May 25, 2006, 10:32:19 AM
I had to read Cornwell books back in high school for AP Biology...a bit weird.

Currently reading "The World Is Flat" - by Friedman.

I'm sorry.

and

I'm sorry.

 :D :D :D
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Post by: ibroadrunr on May 25, 2006, 02:47:07 PM
I had to read Cornwell books back in high school for AP Biology...a bit weird.

Currently reading "The World Is Flat" - by Friedman.

One of the baby bio classes (microbiology) at my school assigns The Hot Zone.
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Post by: redemption on May 25, 2006, 02:49:12 PM
One of the baby bio classes (microbiology) at my school assigns The Hot Zone.

Our educational system is going straight to hell.
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Post by: ibroadrunr on May 25, 2006, 02:51:25 PM
One of the baby bio classes (microbiology) at my school assigns The Hot Zone.

Our educational system is going straight to hell.

The classes for majors are wicked hard; unfortunately, they overcompensated with the genEd classes.  Sometimes I hate this place.
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Post by: terralily on May 25, 2006, 03:51:19 PM
I just finish Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro.  A very quick and easy read, but SO good.  I'm starting on The History of Love by Nicole Krauss.  I figured I'd read a bunch of light and easy fiction before school starts.  ;D
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Post by: Angelina1 on May 25, 2006, 03:53:21 PM
I just finish Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro.  A very quick and easy read, but SO good.  I'm starting on The History of Love by Nicole Krauss.  I figured I'd read a bunch of light and easy fiction before school starts.  ;D

Co-signed
Did you cry?
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Post by: terralily on May 25, 2006, 05:02:26 PM
Co-signed
Did you cry?

I would've if it wasn't for my meds  :P   I've already passed the book off to a coworker to read.
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Post by: Dorian Deleting on May 25, 2006, 06:08:54 PM
Finance books....lots of them   :-\
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Post by: smiley on May 26, 2006, 10:04:29 AM
I just finish Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro.  A very quick and easy read, but SO good.  I'm starting on The History of Love by Nicole Krauss.  I figured I'd read a bunch of light and easy fiction before school starts.  ;D

I'm glad you guys put this one down, because I started on it two weeks ago, and am having a tough time getting into it for some reason! But now after reading this, I'm going to keep going. But I'm 1/2 way through My Sister's Keeper now, which I'm reading as a "break book" (as my students say).
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Post by: veg on May 27, 2006, 09:22:17 AM
I had to read Cornwell books back in high school for AP Biology...a bit weird.

Currently reading "The World Is Flat" - by Friedman.

I'm sorry.

and

I'm sorry.

TITCR.
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Post by: Achilles on May 27, 2006, 09:23:11 AM
the blind man of seville=shocking ending !  :o
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Post by: ibroadrunr on May 30, 2006, 12:20:57 PM
The Dragon Jousters trilogy by Mercedes Lackey.  Light reading is the best.  ;D
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Post by: Evo on May 30, 2006, 01:02:52 PM
The Unbearable Lightness of Being, by Milan Kundera... a really interesting book.  anyone else read this?
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Post by: Little D on May 30, 2006, 01:03:31 PM
A book about Abraham called...Abraham by a guy I cant remember his name
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Post by: 12(e) on May 30, 2006, 01:04:45 PM
Dirk Gentley's Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams
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Post by: Miss P on May 30, 2006, 01:16:01 PM
The Unbearable Lightness of Being, by Milan Kundera... a really interesting book.  anyone else read this?

Yes.

See this review:
http://www.idlewords.com/2005/11/dating_without_kundera.htm
 

Wow, I love it! "Sexually transmitted book"! 
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Post by: coquita on May 30, 2006, 01:33:04 PM
"under the banner of heaven" jon krakauer

"the zombie survival guide" max brooks
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Post by: coquita on May 30, 2006, 01:35:36 PM
also, "the bookseller of kabul" AWESOME book
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Post by: Apples and Oranges on May 30, 2006, 01:51:18 PM
Dirk Gentley's Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams

Yay  :) I liked that one
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Post by: bruin on May 30, 2006, 02:12:18 PM
H.R. 5055
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Post by: kapstone on May 30, 2006, 03:24:47 PM
Just finished Syrup and Jennifer Government by Max(x) Barry.  I would highly reccomend both, if you are into modern novels about the woes of living in a society dirven by marketing and corporations. 
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Post by: The Dread Pirate Roberts on May 30, 2006, 03:25:42 PM
Dirk Gentley's Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams

Yay  :) I liked that one

I adore that book.  And the Long Dark Teatime of the Soul also.
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Post by: Miss P on May 30, 2006, 03:33:35 PM
Just finished Syrup and Jennifer Government by Max(x) Barry. 

Someone else just recommended these to me.  Thanks, Kapstone!
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Post by: Messily on May 30, 2006, 06:24:32 PM
Just finished Syrup and Jennifer Government by Max(x) Barry.  I would highly reccomend both, if you are into modern novels about the woes of living in a society dirven by marketing and corporations. 

Max Barry is so good.  I also highly recommend his latest, Company.
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Post by: southerncowboy on May 30, 2006, 06:40:24 PM
Sun-tzu, The Art of War
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Post by: redemption on May 30, 2006, 06:53:01 PM
Sun-tzu, The Art of War

Why am I not surprised by this? You crack me up.
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Post by: southerncowboy on May 30, 2006, 06:57:26 PM
What you will find funny i got the idea to read while watching the movie wall street, again.  I thought reading it might help me make money.
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Post by: StepUpT0theMike on May 30, 2006, 07:01:58 PM
House of War by James Carroll
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Post by: redemption on May 30, 2006, 07:08:02 PM
What you will find funny i got the idea to read while watching the movie wall street, again.  I thought reading it might help me make money.

That's why I'm not surprised. I knew it was from watching Wall Street. You'll fo far, jid. Don't forget me when I come for my loan  ;)
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Post by: magnumalv on June 02, 2006, 05:09:58 AM
Oh books, how I love thee... I've been relaxing hard and catching up:

Ombria in Shadow, Patricia McKillip
On Beauty, Zadie Smith
The Bartimous Trilogy, Jonathan Stroud
The Stolen Child, Keith Donahue
Lancelot, Percy Walker
Digging to America, Anne Tyler
Julie & Julia, Julie Powell
The Summer Before the Summer of Love, Marly Swick
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Post by: kapstone on June 02, 2006, 10:39:39 AM
Just finished Syrup and Jennifer Government by Max(x) Barry.  I would highly reccomend both, if you are into modern novels about the woes of living in a society dirven by marketing and corporations. 

Max Barry is so good.  I also highly recommend his latest, Company.

I just picked this up, along with "Apathy and Other Small Victories" which Mr Barry reccomended on his blog (just started this one). 

Miss P - I hope you like them!
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Post by: Messily on June 02, 2006, 10:53:16 AM
The Summer Before the Summer of Love, Marly Swick

This title makes me smile.  :)
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Post by: Messily on June 02, 2006, 10:55:57 AM
Just finished Foreign Babes in Beijing by Rachel Dewoskin, which was really interesting but a little disjointed.

Now I'm reading The Virgin Suicides by Jeffrey Eugenides.  Next up will be something nonfiction and New York-ish, probably Subwayland or Philistines at the Hedgerow.
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Post by: Lily Jaye on June 02, 2006, 11:56:17 AM
Wonderful Life by Stephen Jay Gould.

I now remember why he doesn't irritate me as much as most scientists do.
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Post by: Achilles on June 02, 2006, 01:07:40 PM
How to Write a best selling novel.
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Post by: withj on June 02, 2006, 01:09:54 PM
Modern Philosophy: An Introduction, by Roger Scruton
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Post by: redemption on June 02, 2006, 01:15:19 PM
Modern Philosophy: An Introduction, by Roger Scruton

That's a dangerous book
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Post by: Pythagoras on June 02, 2006, 09:19:33 PM
Everything You Need to Know About Everything, by red.
Sounds like an interesting read. :)


Currently reading: Let's Go: Mexico, 2006
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Post by: Pythagoras on June 02, 2006, 09:33:16 PM
planning on a little vacation?  ;)

But of course!  2.5 weeks of unrelenting sunshine, circumspect consumption of water, beachtime, and ancient
ruins.  Can't wait.  :D

(If I don't show at Orientation, you can tell everyone I couldn't tear myself away)
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Post by: wannaB1L on June 02, 2006, 10:16:28 PM
I am readindg the "Life and Death of Adolf Hitler" by Payne. It is a great book about that part of history, and includes all of the complexities as opposed to other books that are too simplistic, i.e. all the Germans were Nazis, all the Germans were bad. Those types of books are always fakes as history is far more interseting and complex. "Winston Spencer Churchill; the Last Lion: Visions of Glory" by Manchester. A superb book indeed. I especially like how it sets the social backdrop for Churchill's development (the aristocracy).
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Post by: Pirate Pete on June 02, 2006, 10:18:17 PM
I am readindg the "Life and Death of Adolf Hitler" by Payne. It is a great book about that part of history, and includes all of the complexities as opposed to other books that are too simplistic, i.e. all the Germans were Nazis, all the Germans were bad. Those types of books are always fakes as history is far more interseting and complex. "Winston Spencer Churchill; the Last Lion: Visions of Glory" by Manchester. A superb book indeed. I especially like how it sets the social backdrop for Churchill's development (the aristocracy).

Amusing, Dunson, really very nice.  But "the original dunson" was a better schtick.
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Post by: wannaB1L on June 02, 2006, 10:37:15 PM
I am readindg the "Life and Death of Adolf Hitler" by Payne. It is a great book about that part of history, and includes all of the complexities as opposed to other books that are too simplistic, i.e. all the Germans were Nazis, all the Germans were bad. Those types of books are always fakes as history is far more interseting and complex. "Winston Spencer Churchill; the Last Lion: Visions of Glory" by Manchester. A superb book indeed. I especially like how it sets the social backdrop for Churchill's development (the aristocracy).

Amusing, Dunson, really very nice.  But "the original dunson" was a better schtick.

Dear stocker please leave me alone I do not know who Dunson is, but I know that you are a "DUNCE" I almost want to give you my "my Space adress or email just to prove you are wrong- but you are the type of girl that would stalk me (not the first). I know because of that picture of you and your neighbors dog. I have two dogs, but please, you look sooo pathetic. I almost feel sorry for you. Also Miss Em. I am sure that you have the capability to be a lady, so give it a try. That is why I thought your were a male the other night because ithought that you were so brash and rude that you could not possibly be a female. I am old fashioned, and I think I am realizing that I am giving too much credit to the fairer sex, at least that is what my old boss said a couple of months ago and she is a woman
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Post by: Pirate Pete on June 02, 2006, 10:39:38 PM
I am readindg the "Life and Death of Adolf Hitler" by Payne. It is a great book about that part of history, and includes all of the complexities as opposed to other books that are too simplistic, i.e. all the Germans were Nazis, all the Germans were bad. Those types of books are always fakes as history is far more interseting and complex. "Winston Spencer Churchill; the Last Lion: Visions of Glory" by Manchester. A superb book indeed. I especially like how it sets the social backdrop for Churchill's development (the aristocracy).

Amusing, Dunson, really very nice.  But "the original dunson" was a better schtick.

Dear stocker please leave me alone I do not know who Dunson is, but I know that you are a "DUNCE"

(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/spezial/jasons_smilie/stupid.gif)
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Post by: wannaB1L on June 02, 2006, 10:45:40 PM
I am readindg the "Life and Death of Adolf Hitler" by Payne. It is a great book about that part of history, and includes all of the complexities as opposed to other books that are too simplistic, i.e. all the Germans were Nazis, all the Germans were bad. Those types of books are always fakes as history is far more interseting and complex. "Winston Spencer Churchill; the Last Lion: Visions of Glory" by Manchester. A superb book indeed. I especially like how it sets the social backdrop for Churchill's development (the aristocracy).

Amusing, Dunson, really very nice.  But "the original dunson" was a better schtick.

Dear stocker please leave me alone I do not know who Dunson is, but I know that you are a "DUNCE"

(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/spezial/jasons_smilie/stupid.gif)

:)

I am with tool( look up)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: withj on June 02, 2006, 10:48:42 PM
Really? What's dangerous about it? The parts of it I can understand (about 10%) I kinda like, except for the occasional gratuitous swipes at bleeding-hearts, among whom I proudly number myself.

My biggest problem with it is, I just don't get modern philosophy. It's either conceptually over my head (modal logic, possible worlds, hard-core analytic stuff) or, when the concepts are understandable, written so densely (Kant, Heidegger), I can't make heads or tails.

I've always thought of this as a failing on my part. But, whenever I take another crack at modern philosophy, I feel like I've stumbled into a chat-room for nitpickers and hairsplitters.

Modern Philosophy: An Introduction, by Roger Scruton

That's a dangerous book
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Pirate Pete on June 02, 2006, 10:48:51 PM

I am with tool( look up)

You're gonna need to try a little harder than that, htfh.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: wannaB1L on June 02, 2006, 10:51:05 PM
dear friends these two people have been stocking me on this board as of lately. Basically the girl hates me, then the guy kisses her as to score points by attacking me. I can't even say which books I am reading without being attcked with lame statements like "I'm with stupid" very cleaver to use a little smile face with a sign to say I am stupid. You might want to actually speak with a girl in person, I bet your chances will be alot better than they are kissing Em.'s %#@!!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on June 02, 2006, 10:55:05 PM
Everything You Need to Know About Everything, by red.

That's a dangerous book.
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Post by: wannaB1L on June 02, 2006, 10:57:31 PM
actually I could care less...but the next time I say which book I am reading...maybe you could not attack me. Please save yourself as well as myself the trouble.
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Post by: Pirate Pete on June 02, 2006, 11:08:39 PM
I am readindg the "Life and Death of Adolf Hitler" by Payne. It is a great book about that part of history, and includes all of the complexities as opposed to other books that are too simplistic, i.e. all the Germans were Nazis, all the Germans were bad. Those types of books are always fakes as history is far more interseting and complex. "Winston Spencer Churchill; the Last Lion: Visions of Glory" by Manchester. A superb book indeed. I especially like how it sets the social backdrop for Churchill's development (the aristocracy).

Amusing, Dunson, really very nice.  But "the original dunson" was a better schtick.

I'm not convinced the original dunson WAS schtick.

Exactly what I meant.

Everything You Need to Know About Everything, by red.

That's a dangerous book.

very true.

You know what I think it is, Stan?  You try a little too hard with the quote manipulation.  This is my explanation for why some of them don't work out hilariously.

Don't knock quote manipulation, it's a great tool, just like Wannabe up there.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Pirate Pete on June 02, 2006, 11:11:08 PM
Everything You Need to Know About Everything, by red.

That's a dangerous book.

very true.

You know what I think it is, Stan?  You try a little too hard with the quote manipulation.  This is my explanation for why some of them don't work out hilariously.

Don't knock quote manipulation, it's a great tool, just like Wannabe up there.

HAHAHAHA Swats she just called you a tool!  And a wannabe something or other. :P

No, Halfie.  You mixed it up there, hippie.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Pirate Pete on June 02, 2006, 11:18:26 PM
This thread is upsetting me.  :(

Why?

I don't know if it's Dunson or not.  :(
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Post by: southerncowboy on June 02, 2006, 11:36:19 PM
Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity: Get Out the Shovel--Why Everything You Know Is Wrong by John Stossel.
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Post by: wannaB1L on June 02, 2006, 11:53:38 PM
Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity: Get Out the Shovel--Why Everything You Know Is Wrong by John Stossel.

I like Stossel- when I was a bolshevik I could not stand him- because he was so right and it is hard to admit you are wrong when you invested so much in that lost cause.

I also just finished reading "By the Sword" by Cohen- an English fencing champ. I read it in like 2 and a half days because I could not put it down. He wrote about dueling, german fencing fraternities, japanese, olympic fencing etc. Great book with preety pictures.
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Post by: fuwaf on June 03, 2006, 11:10:00 AM
A trashy historical romance
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Post by: rena123 on June 03, 2006, 11:13:41 AM
a short history of nearly everything.  i think i'm the last person i know who hasn't read it yet.
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Post by: ibroadrunr on June 03, 2006, 04:41:22 PM
A trashy historical romance

I love those.

I'm still on my mystery/crime/detective/espionage/science/thriller/etc kick.  Just finished Embryo by Charles Wilson.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on June 03, 2006, 04:43:02 PM
A trashy historical romance

I love those.

I'm still on my mystery/crime/detective/espionage/science/thriller/etc kick.  Just finished Embryo by Charles Wilson.

Yay, I'm not alone in reading trash!  I like Lisa Kleypas myself because they're not too horrifically written.
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Post by: ibroadrunr on June 03, 2006, 05:49:31 PM
A trashy historical romance

I love those.

I'm still on my mystery/crime/detective/espionage/science/thriller/etc kick.  Just finished Embryo by Charles Wilson.

Yay, I'm not alone in reading trash!  I like Lisa Kleypas myself because they're not too horrifically written.

Haven't read any in quite a while, but I liked Nora Roberts and...Linda Howard, I believe.  Catherine Coulter or somebody, too.

EDIT:  Well, they're not usually in the historical romance grouping, no, but general smut, yes.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: southerncowboy on June 04, 2006, 07:23:32 PM
buffalo creek diaster soon to be followed by conspricay of fools.
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Post by: Freak on June 09, 2006, 12:32:37 PM
Robidoux v. Oliphant
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: philibusters on June 27, 2006, 07:33:01 AM
Right now I reading two books--Understanding Human Evolution and The World is Flat.  They are both good.  The Understanding Human Evolution book is a college textbook, but I was interested in the subject but wanted something basic so that I could get familiar witht the subject.  The World is Flat-is about the changing economic environment and to a lesser degree how that could affect social and political cultures as well.

I have planned out my next reads to.  I want to read a History of Life by Richard Fortey and another book on Human Evolution next.  After that I want to read Barrio Boy about an autobiographical story about migrating to the U.S. from Mexico.  I own all those books so that won't be a problem.  After that I want to reading Hawkings book designed for the layperson called a short history of the universe, I need to buy that book, after that I want to read the sound and the fury and johnny cash's autobiography.

I think I have nine weeks of summer left, I like to get all these reading done before school starts, but I don't mind going a couple weeks into the school year, when the work load is easy, and my brain isn't working hard yet.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Freak on June 27, 2006, 08:00:04 AM
Sometimes non-legal reading is good for the psyche, especially for ls.
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Post by: Angelina1 on June 29, 2006, 12:29:04 PM
[quote author=philibusters link=topic=50437.msg1494939#msg1494939 date=1151415181

I think I have nine weeks of summer left, I like to get all these reading done before school starts, but I don't mind going a couple weeks into the school year, when the work load is easy, and my brain isn't working hard yet.
[/quote]

Is the work load ever easy in your first year of law school?? I kind of picture it as pretty much full-on from day 1...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: philibusters on June 29, 2006, 12:49:28 PM
Well the courses start right away, you will have readings assigned before the first day of class that you are expected to discuss that day.  But a lot of times, thing build on earlier things you learned, so it goes from being simplier to more and more complex--I found most, not all lawschool classes work that way, so the first few weeks it should not be that tough.  You should not be overwhelmed your first few weeks of law school, you probably learning more basic concepts and shouldn't feel overwhelmed yet -and you should have free time (actually unless you are a really hard core studier you will have free time throughout 1L, its just that you never have enough and therefore will want more.)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bruin on June 29, 2006, 01:17:22 PM
"design law in Europe"
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Post by: ibroadrunr on August 09, 2006, 11:13:50 PM
Ha!  I laugh at the intelligent reading here.  I just finished reading a supernatural romance series by MaryJanice Davidson ("Undead and...").  Once I got past the less-than-enthralling start of book #1, it was a wonderfully light-hearted collection.  I even laughed out loud at times.  Snappy dialogue.


Kind of...kind of like a vampire queen version of Buffy, sometimes.  Early Buffy.
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Post by: obamacon on August 10, 2006, 04:38:50 PM
Oh no!

(http://d_o_u_c_e_2.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/koolaid.jpg)

Oh Yeah!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: SouthernGal on August 10, 2006, 04:55:34 PM
1984
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Post by: orangie on August 11, 2006, 07:43:57 AM
LSAT 180 :D

The most recent non-LSAT book I read was "The Kite Runner" by Khaled Hussaini (I think that's how it's spelled) and it's really good!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: orangie on September 03, 2006, 06:20:07 PM
Just finished The Fountainhead.

does Adehmar still remind you of D'Aconia?
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Post by: Miss P on September 03, 2006, 07:54:24 PM
I hate Ayn Rand, but I love Mini Thou!  Coochie coochie coo!
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Post by: orangie on September 04, 2006, 07:32:58 AM
Just finished The Fountainhead.

does Adehmar still remind you of D'Aconia?

Yes, but that was Atlas Shrugged.

true :) but weren't you reading Atlas Shrugged recently?
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Post by: Miss P on September 04, 2006, 10:32:35 AM
Almost done with O'Reilly's Programming C#.

Essays next, then VB.NET

 :)

I didn't know you were a reader.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on September 04, 2006, 11:01:53 AM
I'm rereading one of my favorite books for about the millionith time... The Time Traveler's Wife
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Post by: Mr. Pink on October 19, 2006, 08:59:02 AM
Bump diddy bump.


Umberto Eco "The Name of the Rose"
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Post by: bandaidstick on October 19, 2006, 09:03:59 AM
Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche: Human All Too Human - Great Book
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Post by: orangie on October 19, 2006, 09:12:39 AM
Of Human Bondage by W. Somerset Maugham (one of my favorite writers of all time)
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Post by: lindseyl on October 19, 2006, 09:22:44 AM
Mere Christianity by CS Lewis.
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Post by: ADL on October 19, 2006, 09:57:18 AM
Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them - A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right. By Al Franken.

I usually read during lunch and/or on the subway & i get most of the books i read from the library, since i'm looking for ways to cut expenses.
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Post by: Mr. Pink on October 19, 2006, 10:00:26 AM
Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them - A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right. By Al Franken.

I usually read during lunch and/or on the subway & i get most of the books i read from the library, since i'm looking for ways to cut expenses.

Me too.  I love still being in school.

PSA:  I heard that Salinger's fifth novel (unpublished) is in the Special Collection at Princeton library; you can make a appointment to read it.  Im thinking of doing this.
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Post by: Mr. Pink on October 19, 2006, 10:01:52 AM
Unpublished and Uncollected

At Princeton Library

    * The Ocean Full of Bowling Balls [3] (date unknown) Holden Caulfield
    * The Last and Best of the Peter Pans [4] (date unknown) Holden Caulfield
    * The Magic Foxhole (1945)
    * Two Lonely Men (1944)
    * The Children's Echelon (1944)


Salinger has continued to write in a disciplined fashion, a few hours every morning, according to Margaret Salinger. Her memoir (p. 307) reports that Salinger has several floor-to-ceiling safes containing manuscripts, marked with notations such as "to be published as-is", "to be edited", etc, in anticipation of his entry into parinirvana (a "final" nirvana).
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Post by: redemption on October 23, 2006, 06:48:43 PM
bump
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Post by: Alamo on October 23, 2006, 09:49:29 PM
My first open memo assignment.  Simultaneously exciting and sh!t-inducing.

Honestly, I haven't even attempted pleasure reading since late August.  I'm about halfway through Sound and the Fury, and as painful as it was to make it that far, I see myself progressing no farther.
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Post by: Vick on October 23, 2006, 09:54:22 PM
"Sophie's World" by Jostein Gaarder.  I read it in high school and it was sitting on my bookshelf when I was too lazy to go to the library to check out a new book.  A great book if you want to brush up on your philosophy.  Before this I read "The Lovely Bones" by another woman whose name I can't remember.   

Not being in school has been great for my recreational reading.  I'm able to squeeze in a total of 50 minutes every day during my commute.
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Post by: Alamo on October 23, 2006, 09:55:25 PM
Return of the Native by Thomas Hardy. Bless him and his miserable outlook on life. Everything, everything will always end terribly. I love it.

Amen - Jude and Tess are two of my favorites.  I'll have to check out what you're reading in, say, 2.7 years.
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Post by: zoom on November 02, 2006, 05:37:41 PM
Return of the Native by Thomas Hardy. Bless him and his miserable outlook on life. Everything, everything will always end terribly. I love it.

Amen - Jude and Tess are two of my favorites.  I'll have to check out what you're reading in, say, 2.7 years.

Why 2.7 years?

And yes! I love Jude and Tess! You just want to keep saying, "Well, it can't get any worse than this... oh wait...."

When I read Jude I was certain that my book was missing pages.  On one page things were semi-normal and then suddenly Father Time's "hanging out" in the closet!? :o That was quite the shocker.

I've been on a biography kick lately. Right now I'm reading a Lincoln biography by David Herbert Donald.
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Post by: FossilJ on November 03, 2006, 02:27:28 AM
The Crying of Lot 49 -- Thomas Pynchon.
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Post by: FossilJ on November 03, 2006, 03:23:13 PM
The Crying of Lot 49 -- Thomas Pynchon.


You should get that tattoo.  Oh, I think I had a dream about you (a few hours ago).  Too complicated to explain.


PM me.  I'm dying of curiosity.


Also, I wouldn't get a tattoo, but I've thought about putting the sign everywhere.  Then I realized I'd be just like those pretentious art geeks I f-ing hate. 

I'll make up my own f-ing sign.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: molaw on November 03, 2006, 07:14:20 PM
Son of a Witch - the sequel to Wicked by Gregory MaGuire.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: jer on January 12, 2007, 11:39:12 AM
principles of operations management, 6th edition
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Post by: Zam on January 12, 2007, 01:13:52 PM
Kafka on the Shore

Haruki Murakami
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Post by: pikey on January 12, 2007, 01:17:00 PM
Glamour magazine.   :D
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Post by: t... on January 12, 2007, 01:20:07 PM
Metaphors We Live By - Lakoff
Upheavals of Thought - Nussbaum
The River Between - Ngugi
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Post by: orangie on January 12, 2007, 01:23:10 PM
The Life of Pi by Yann Martel
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Post by: jer on January 12, 2007, 01:34:15 PM
principles of operations management, 6th edition

Ick! That doesn't sound like fun.

catching up on a month's worth of hw :(
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Zam on January 12, 2007, 01:37:34 PM
Kafka on the Shore

Haruki Murakami

I've tried to get into him (him?), but failed thus far. Everyone always raves, though.

I've read everything he's written that has been translated into English. (Except for Underground, which is his only non-fiction work, I haven't gotten my hands on a copy).

However, I don't like his two most critically acclaimed novels. Namely, The Wind-Up Bird Chronicles and Norwegian Wood. Well, Norwegian Wood was ok but it's not my favorite.

He is an absolutely brilliant short story writer. I would say start with The Elephant Vanishes. Of his novels I enjoy Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World the best. His most recent short story collection is After the Quake which deals with the Kobe earthquake, but in really unusual ways. I found it to be a really fascinating contemplative look at the way people deal with national tragedy. (Or at least the way Murakami thinks people deal with national tragedy).

His works are very interesting. I always wonder how much the English translation changes them. There is kind of a magical realism that takes place in most of his works that I really find exciting. I say magical realism for lack of a more precise description; the phenomena in his works have a distinctly different aura around them than you would find in more traditional sources of magical realism. (Gabriel Garcia Marquez, for example).

His short stories are on par with, at least in my opinion, Raymond Carver. (Who also happens to be one of his influences).
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: jer on January 12, 2007, 01:39:23 PM
i just love sumo ballerina
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Post by: Zam on January 12, 2007, 01:40:28 PM
The Life of Pi by Yann Martel

I enjoyed that.
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Post by: t... on January 12, 2007, 01:50:04 PM
I don't know if anyone in the past 50 or 60 years is quite up to par with Ray Carver (or Flannery O'Conner) with their short stories. Maybe Munro.

I like Murakami, just not that much. I should probably read more, and soon.
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Post by: Miss P on January 12, 2007, 01:59:25 PM
I'm going to read some Moby male private part this weekend to inspire me in property.

Quote from: Melville
Is it not a saying in every one's mouth, Possession is half of the law: that is, regardless of how the thing came into possession? But often possession is the whole of the law. What are the sinews and souls of Russian serfs and Republican slaves but Fast-Fish, whereof possession is the whole of the law? What to the rapacious landlord is the widow's last mite but a Fast-Fish? What is yonder undetected villain's marble mansion with a doorplate for a waif; what is that but a Fast-Fish? What is the ruinous discount which Mordecai, the broker, gets from the poor Woebegone, the bankrupt, on a loan to keep Woebegone's family from starvation; what is that ruinous discount but a Fast-Fish? What is the Archbishop of Savesoul's income of L100,000 seized from the scant bread and cheese of hundreds of thousands of broken-backed laborers (all sure of heaven without any of Savesoul's help) what is that globular 100,000 but a Fast-Fish. What are the Duke of Dunder's hereditary towns and hamlets but Fast-Fish? What to that redoubted harpooneer, John Bull, is poor Ireland, but a Fast-Fish? What to that apostolic lancer, Brother Jonathan, is Texas but a Fast-Fish? And concerning all these, is not Possession the whole of the law?

But if the doctrine of Fast-Fish be pretty generally applicable, the kindred doctrine of Loose-Fish is still more widely so. That is internationally and universally applicable.

What was America in 1492 but a Loose-Fish, in which Columbus struck the Spanish standard by way of wailing it for his royal master and mistress? What was Poland to the Czar? What Greece to the Turk? What India to England? What at last will Mexico be to the United States? All Loose-Fish.

What are the Rights of Man and the Liberties of the World but Loose-Fish? What all men's minds and opinions but Loose-Fish? What is the principle of religious belief in them but a Loose-Fish? What to the ostentatious smuggling verbalists are the thoughts of thinkers but Loose-Fish? What is the great globe itself but a Loose-Fish? And what are you, reader, but a Loose-Fish and a Fast-Fish, too?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Zam on January 12, 2007, 02:00:12 PM
I don't know if anyone in the past 50 or 60 years is quite up to par with Ray Carver (or Flannery O'Conner) with their short stories. Maybe Munro.

I like Murakami, just not that much. I should probably read more, and soon.

It's hard to judge Murakami against these writers mostly because of the language difference. I honestly think he reaches their level though, and that is only after reading translations.

His best short stories have a complexity to them that is amazing and quiet. He has that whole iceburg phenomena down, is what I'm saying. Some of his most amazing stories are stories you need to read at least twice to even begin to understand. (Kind of like Carver).
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 12, 2007, 02:02:05 PM
The Life of Pi by Yann Martel

I enjoyed that.

I didn't.

I just finished The Night Watch by... Sarah Waters?  And now I'm reading Snow Flower and the Secret Fan by Lisa Yee.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Zam on January 12, 2007, 02:03:37 PM

Thanks for this! I started Norwegian Wood once and didn't get very far, and never went back. I think I will give it another go.

I start talking about him and get carried away easily I'm afraid.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Zam on January 12, 2007, 02:05:04 PM
The Life of Pi by Yann Martel

I enjoyed that.

I didn't.

I just finished The Night Watch by... Sarah Waters?  And now I'm reading Snow Flower and the Secret Fan by Lisa Yee.

I think I liked Life of Pi for its concept execution more than anything else. It showed good follow through.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on January 12, 2007, 02:06:15 PM
The Life of Pi by Yann Martel

I enjoyed that.

I didn't.

I just finished The Night Watch by... Sarah Waters?  And now I'm reading Snow Flower and the Secret Fan by Lisa Yee.

Me neither.  I actually really didn't like that book.  I wondered what was wrong with me!

I believe I confessed much earlier in this thread my shameful love of Sarah Waters books.  If you haven't read it, I think Fingersmith is the best. I haven't read TNW yet, though.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 12, 2007, 02:56:12 PM
The Life of Pi by Yann Martel

I enjoyed that.

I didn't.

I just finished The Night Watch by... Sarah Waters?  And now I'm reading Snow Flower and the Secret Fan by Lisa Yee.

Me neither.  I actually really didn't like that book.  I wondered what was wrong with me!

I believe I confessed much earlier in this thread my shameful love of Sarah Waters books.  If you haven't read it, I think Fingersmith is the best. I haven't read TNW yet, though.

Yeah, I really didn't like it either.  But I hate stories about people being stranded on islands and stuff like that, it makes me freak out at the possibility of it happening to me. 

I actually wasn't a huge fan of The Night Watch, and it was my first Sarah Waters book (my mom gave it to me for Christmas).  I thought it was mildly interesting, but I never got into it like I do with most books.  There's a problem when I see a book half-read lying face down and I'm not excited to pick it up.  But maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: pikey on January 12, 2007, 03:12:08 PM
Finished today:

- A Civil Action
- Dr. John Sarno's The Divided Mind

Both were great.

A Civil Action is really inspiring until about the last 120 pages, when it becomes really depressing.

I don't read fancy shamancy literature like you guys.

I read that for b law in college.  A great book.  You're right about it being inspiring and depressing.  Our class actually had a conference call with Jan Schlichtmann where we got to ask him a bunch of questions about the case because one of my classmate's aunt's ex-husband was Jan's brother.  How's that for random?  :)
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Post by: KingJamesFan on January 12, 2007, 08:56:14 PM
right now, rereading The Illusion of Inclusion (about latin@s and hispanics in San Antonio)
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Post by: jer on January 13, 2007, 08:36:33 AM
i'm such a guy,
the only author i've enjoyed recently is james patterson


/along came a spider was a movie based on his book
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Post by: KingJamesFan on January 13, 2007, 12:44:03 PM
I'm now reading Brave New World, or was until LSD started working again
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Post by: sierrahotel on January 13, 2007, 01:13:03 PM
pushkin :(
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Post by: Zam on January 13, 2007, 03:58:46 PM
I liked Life of Pi quite a bit actually, but I enjoy deft books.

Reads (and rereads) this week:

Backlash Susan Faludi
The Bell Jar Sylvia Plath
Down and Out in Paris and London George Orwell


Recently completed:

The Scapegoat
Rene Girard
How I Learned to Drive Paula Vogel (it's a play)
The Tetherballs of Bougainville Mark Leyner (This book is insane.  Seriously.)
And the Poor Get Children: Sex, Contraception, and Family Planning in the Working Class Lee Rainwater (study from the 50s published in 1960)


I saw probably the most horribly done production of How I Learned to Drive ever done. It was performed by a fairly inexperienced group of community college actors.

Not a play to be attempted by a group of self-conscious performers.

Still, the playwright did a good job with such a difficult topic.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Zam on January 13, 2007, 05:09:38 PM

That must've been a complete nightmare.  You will never get those two hours of your life back, and on behalf of my art, I'm sorry.

What's interesting is that I've actually never seen How I Learned to Drive mounted.  From a reading I can definitely say that I feel the play's best on it's feet, as the eloquence of her experience is hard to fully realize from the text alone.  The potential's there, I just found myself wanting to see it.

Of course, if it's the text or sh!tty acting, I'll take the text every time.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. Almost comically bad, actually. The girl who played the lead was half decent, but everyone else was pretty abysmal and uncomfortable to watch.

I would like to see it well performed someday.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 13, 2007, 09:05:20 PM
I'm reading trash:

Confessions of a Video Vixen.

So far, so good though (not that I had high expectations :D).
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Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 09:35:07 PM
Wuthering Heights
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Post by: stjobs on January 13, 2007, 09:40:52 PM
Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand - Samuel R. Delany
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 13, 2007, 09:44:03 PM
I would post in this thread, but you would immediately contact the schools I've been admitted to and tell them to rescind their offer because I am clearly a MORON.

So, I keep my reading material secret.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 09:49:02 PM
Wuthering Heights

Have I told you lately that I love you?

Heathcliff may just be my ideal man.

He is certainly very attractive, but maybe a little mean for me.  I like nice men.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: t... on January 13, 2007, 09:59:19 PM
George Eliot = best Victorian, by a small margin over Hardy, and a large margin over the rest (or at least, over those I can think of at the moment).
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 13, 2007, 10:00:21 PM
Every few months my friends and I pledge to read the books we never read when we were supposed to.

Sometimes we even go so far as to purchase the books.

Any good suggestions for literature for morons?  Books that part of the canon, but work well to ease us into serious reading?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:20:01 PM
Every few months my friends and I pledge to read the books we never read when we were supposed to.


I'll admit it, Wuthering Heights is really for class.  I'm taking a course on the Brontes.  It's awesome.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:20:38 PM
Wuthering Heights

Have I told you lately that I love you?

Heathcliff may just be my ideal man.

He is certainly very attractive, but maybe a little mean for me.  I like nice men.

He is too mean. But I find that rather sexy, I'm afraid. I'd certainly take him over any other man in the book, hands down.

Absolutely, though Joseph would be a close second. 


 :o  ;)
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Post by: thestradgirl on January 13, 2007, 11:40:46 PM
Betraying Spinoza by Rebecca Goldstein
magazines.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on January 13, 2007, 11:42:13 PM
Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand - Samuel R. Delany

Perhaps my favorite book is his autobiography, The Motion of Light in Water.  I highly recommend it if you've never read it.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 14, 2007, 07:00:29 AM
sillyberry, there's nothing to be ashamed of, I read trash 90% of the time.  Really trashy trash. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: stjobs on January 14, 2007, 07:41:10 AM
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Perhaps my favorite book is his autobiography, The Motion of Light in Water.  I highly recommend it if you've never read it.

Nope, I never have, but I've been recommended it before. I'm halfway through Dhalgren as well, and Babel-17/Nova/Triton/Silent Interviews/Aye, and Gomorrah and other stories are all in the queue. Not to mention a lot of Mishima, St. Augustine's Confessions, and Les Miserables (again). I'm not going to get through this much stuff before fall.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 14, 2007, 08:54:42 AM
sillyberry, there's nothing to be ashamed of, I read trash 90% of the time.  Really trashy trash. 

Seconded.

Are either of you re-reading Shopaholic Ties the Knot?

Didn't think so.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 14, 2007, 09:03:29 AM
sillyberry, there's nothing to be ashamed of, I read trash 90% of the time.  Really trashy trash. 

Seconded.

Are either of you re-reading Shopaholic Ties the Knot?

Didn't think so.

No, but I read some Laurell K. Hamilton a coupla weeks ago . . . that's pretty d@mn trashy.

My problem is that I read in the bathtub, so I always grab something stupid that I've read before.  Thus, I end up re-reading all sorts of terrible books in the name of bubbles.

But, my favorite book ever is The Unbearable Lightness of Being.  Well, the first half, anyway.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 14, 2007, 10:47:53 AM
My problem is that I read in the bathtub, so I always grab something stupid that I've read before.  Thus, I end up re-reading all sorts of terrible books in the name of bubbles.

This is not a problem.  I read everything in the bathtub, and I resent that casebooks are so heavy that they make bathtub reading difficult.  Not impossible, mind you.

Over the break, I read three PD James books in the bathtub.

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But, my favorite book ever is The Unbearable Lightness of Being.  Well, the first half, anyway.

Now this is a problem.   :D

Oh! No!  I've read the whole book (multiple times), I just LOVE the first half, and only really like the second.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Booyakasha2 on January 14, 2007, 10:54:55 AM
Closing of the American Mind
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 14, 2007, 11:01:47 AM
Oh! No!  I've read the whole book (multiple times), I just LOVE the first half, and only really like the second.

My little problem is not with how much of the book you finished; it's that I dislike that book rather a lot.  I think I actually posted an unflattering review of it earlier in this very thread.  To each her own, of course.   :)

ETA: Here's the review.  I think it's funny even if you love Kundera.  Well, maybe...
http://www.idlewords.com/2005/11/dating_without_kundera.htm

It is funny, and probably true.  Doesn't change the fact that the book makes me happy.

(I started from the outset by saying I wasn't a creature of great literature)   :)
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Post by: t... on January 14, 2007, 11:43:11 AM
(I started from the outset by saying I wasn't a creature of great literature)   :)

Well that makes two of us, as I'm no English major.  The Kundera review is just especially apropos for me; I was introduced to him at 18 by the same boy who introduced me to Ayn Rand.  Talk about irreconcilable differences!

Both are very Nietzschean, though. And suffered from the Soviet Bloc syndrome.

I like Kundera (not so much ULB, but his other works); I don't like Rand at all.

Closing of the American Mind? Is that Allan Bloom?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Booyakasha2 on January 14, 2007, 11:50:07 AM
(I started from the outset by saying I wasn't a creature of great literature)   :)

Well that makes two of us, as I'm no English major.  The Kundera review is just especially apropos for me; I was introduced to him at 18 by the same boy who introduced me to Ayn Rand.  Talk about irreconcilable differences!

Both are very Nietzschean, though. And suffered from the Soviet Bloc syndrome.

I like Kundera (not so much ULB, but his other works); I don't like Rand at all.

Closing of the American Mind? Is that Allan Bloom?

Yes.  It was recomended to me by a prof who teaches the classics.  Its interesting thus far.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 14, 2007, 12:34:47 PM
sillyberry, there's nothing to be ashamed of, I read trash 90% of the time.  Really trashy trash. 

Seconded.

Are either of you re-reading Shopaholic Ties the Knot?

Didn't think so.

Yeah I've re-read that like 5 times, along with all the others.  :D

Plus I read historical romances.  Marginally better ones than grocery store crap, but still. 

Trashy trash is way more fun.  I read a lot of Jane Austen and some other classics this summer, but trash is always my fallback.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: t... on January 14, 2007, 12:35:03 PM
I don't mind either Bloom in terms of their passion towards education and the classical humanities, but I also think they suffer just a bit from tunnel vision in that regard...Allan more so than Harold.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 14, 2007, 02:53:52 PM
sillyberry, there's nothing to be ashamed of, I read trash 90% of the time.  Really trashy trash. 

Seconded.

Are either of you re-reading Shopaholic Ties the Knot?

Didn't think so.

Yeah I've re-read that like 5 times, along with all the others.  :D

Plus I read historical romances.  Marginally better ones than grocery store crap, but still. 

Trashy trash is way more fun.  I read a lot of Jane Austen and some other classics this summer, but trash is always my fallback.

Okay, I officially love you.  Done and done.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 14, 2007, 02:56:52 PM
sillyberry, there's nothing to be ashamed of, I read trash 90% of the time.  Really trashy trash. 

Seconded.

Are either of you re-reading Shopaholic Ties the Knot?

Didn't think so.

Yeah I've re-read that like 5 times, along with all the others.  :D

Plus I read historical romances.  Marginally better ones than grocery store crap, but still. 

Trashy trash is way more fun.  I read a lot of Jane Austen and some other classics this summer, but trash is always my fallback.

Okay, I officially love you.  Done and done.

Have you read any Jennifer Weiner or Emily Giffin?  They're excellent and a step above trash.  I also really love Janet Evanovich's Stephanie Plum series if you've never heard of it.  Solid trash, but incredibly funny.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 14, 2007, 02:58:26 PM
sillyberry, there's nothing to be ashamed of, I read trash 90% of the time.  Really trashy trash. 

Seconded.

Are either of you re-reading Shopaholic Ties the Knot?

Didn't think so.

Yeah I've re-read that like 5 times, along with all the others.  :D

Plus I read historical romances.  Marginally better ones than grocery store crap, but still. 

Trashy trash is way more fun.  I read a lot of Jane Austen and some other classics this summer, but trash is always my fallback.

Okay, I officially love you.  Done and done.

Maybe we should start a trashy historical romance novel exchange - they're so quick to read, I almost always feel like I ought to spend my book $ on something more edifying.

I think there's actually some website where you do exchanges like that, but I can't remember the name.  If you're looking for good historical romances, I recommend Lisa Kleypas-- my mom gave me one of her books for Christmas the year before last and I was like WTF, but it was so good I ended up buying like 10 more.  I can recommend specific titles to check out for anyone who's interested... and I buy them all on half.com because it's so much cheaper.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 14, 2007, 03:07:00 PM
sillyberry, there's nothing to be ashamed of, I read trash 90% of the time.  Really trashy trash. 

Seconded.

Are either of you re-reading Shopaholic Ties the Knot?

Didn't think so.

Yeah I've re-read that like 5 times, along with all the others.  :D

Plus I read historical romances.  Marginally better ones than grocery store crap, but still. 

Trashy trash is way more fun.  I read a lot of Jane Austen and some other classics this summer, but trash is always my fallback.

Okay, I officially love you.  Done and done.

Have you read any Jennifer Weiner or Emily Giffin?  They're excellent and a step above trash.  I also really love Janet Evanovich's Stephanie Plum series if you've never heard of it.  Solid trash, but incredibly funny.

Both on the former.  Multiple times.  :)  Haven't heard of the latter...

My favorite in the "historical romance" genre is definitely The Thorn Birds (if that's the correct genre).  I can read that book repeatedly.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 14, 2007, 04:28:47 PM
I like Michael Crichton.


Let the bombardment ensue.
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Post by: likewise on January 14, 2007, 04:31:50 PM
Con Law
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 14, 2007, 04:35:16 PM
I like Michael Crichton.


Let the bombardment ensue.


I'm waiting until someone throws out Dan Brown.


HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference.


Although Crichton is starting to read like a mockery of himself.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: stjobs on January 14, 2007, 04:38:17 PM
Neither one is good, but Dan Brown is possibly the worst published writer of all time.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 14, 2007, 04:40:02 PM
Depends on what you mean by "good".  I'm not lit-whoring here. 


Agreed on Dan Brown, though.  He reads like vomit.
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Post by: h2xblive on January 14, 2007, 05:04:56 PM
I like Michael Crichton.


Let the bombardment ensue.


I'm waiting until someone throws out Dan Brown.


HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference.


Although Crichton is starting to read like a mockery of himself.


I thorougly enjoyed Jurassic Park. Some of the other stuff was a little weaker (like the end of Sphere! WTF! It was good until then!), but not bad. I think this whole thing going on now with him and that critic who trashed him is HILARIOUS. Has anyone else been following that? Some critic wrote a really vicious review, and in his next book Crichton created a character with a very similar name who is, among other things, a pedophile who rapes a three-year-old, and described as having a small d!ck. He really took the high road on that one.....

After Jurassic Park, his stuff started to falter...

I did like Sphere, though.  Must be the time travel thing...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 14, 2007, 05:10:42 PM
I like Michael Crichton.


Let the bombardment ensue.


I'm waiting until someone throws out Dan Brown.


HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference.


Although Crichton is starting to read like a mockery of himself.


I thoroughly enjoyed Jurassic Park. Some of the other stuff was a little weaker (like the end of Sphere! WTF! It was good until then!), but not bad.


YES, GOALIE!!!  Seriously!  That book was FANTASTIC until the end!  But he has other good ones, as well.  I'm a fan of The Andromeda Strain, for instance. 


I think this whole thing going on now with him and that critic who trashed him is HILARIOUS. Has anyone else been following that? Some critic wrote a really vicious review, and in his next book Crichton created a character with a very similar name who is, among other things, a pedophile who rapes a three-year-old, and described as having a small d!ck. He really took the high road on that one.....

Edited for a typo....


That critic is a paranoid schizophrenic.  It's a huge conspiracy theory that takes quite a stretch of the imagination to even make it work.  The names aren't even that similar, IIRC.  What a load of crock.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 14, 2007, 05:56:54 PM
I like Dan Brown.



And specific Lisa Kleypas titles for archival... there is a series/grouping of 4 books that I think is her best... it starts with Secrets of a Summer Night, then there's It Happened One Autumn, then A Devil in Winter, and it ends with A Scandal in Spring.  It's about a group of 4 girls and each book focuses on one and her marriage prospects. 

I also really liked a 3-part set that consists of Someone to Watch Over Me, Lady Sophia's Lover, and Worth Any Price.  Those deal with 3 police officer guys (I forget the real name, something in London... Bow Street Runners).

Suddenly You is probably the most scandalous one, and it's got a pretty cool story.  She also has a few groupings of two books that kind of go together because they have some of the same characters, but it's hard to keep track of them and I've read the wrong one first and it hasn't bothered me. 

The only book of hers I really didn't like was When Strangers Marry (the age difference between the girl and the guy was a little sketchtastic even for that time, especially since his sons wanted to get with her originally and then magically decided it was cool that she was their stepmom...). 

Also, has anyone read any Judith McNaught?  I had some random book Night Whispers of hers from God knows when and I looked into her historical romances, but I found some of them totally sketchy and disturbing.  Whitney, My Love was one that is supposedly really popular, but there were parts of it I really hated.  I can recommend a couple of hers I didn't hate, though.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 14, 2007, 06:03:03 PM
my name has now been tainted and i must abandon it immediately (whew, that's a mouthful), I like books with cheesy titles corresponding to seasons, so I think I'll have to check those out!

I think possibly the most ridiculous book I've ever read that I secretly LOVE is "Small Town Girl" by LaVyrle Spencer (what kind of name is LaVyrle?).  Some book club sent it to my mom as a free trial offer, and it's shamefully fantastic.

I bought one other book by dear LaVyrle, but I couldn't get into it.  I think she was a one-book wonder for me.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: pikey on January 14, 2007, 07:14:17 PM
I would post in this thread, but you would immediately contact the schools I've been admitted to and tell them to rescind their offer because I am clearly a MORON.

So, I keep my reading material secret.

I admitted my Glamour magazine (also Cosmo, O[prah], Marie Claire and In Style).  To balance all the junk out I'm also reading Invisible Man and my Society of Trust and Estate Practicioners textbook.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: pikey on January 14, 2007, 07:16:43 PM
I definitely have to join the historic romance bandwagon.  Three of my fav authors are Mary Balogh, Julia Quinn and Christina Dodd.  I found them fairly cheap on half.com.  I also troll the used bookstores.  My last day of vacation I found a used bookstore that had a huge selection for incredibly cheap (3 books for $2.25).  If I had found them at the beginning of my vacation I would have done nothing but read.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 14, 2007, 07:41:37 PM
my name has now been tainted and i must abandon it immediately (whew, that's a mouthful), I like books with cheesy titles corresponding to seasons, so I think I'll have to check those out!

I think possibly the most ridiculous book I've ever read that I secretly LOVE is "Small Town Girl" by LaVyrle Spencer (what kind of name is LaVyrle?).  Some book club sent it to my mom as a free trial offer, and it's shamefully fantastic.

I bought one other book by dear LaVyrle, but I couldn't get into it.  I think she was a one-book wonder for me.

Hahahaha... you can just call me oh snap for now, if you'd like.

I'll have to check that one out.  And Moni, I've seen some Julia Quinn books pop up on my Amazon recommendations (probably because of the Lisa Kleypas purchases), so do you have any specific titles you'd recommend?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bruin on January 14, 2007, 07:43:52 PM
The Constitution of Virginia
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 14, 2007, 07:44:38 PM
The Constitution of Virginia

Laaaaame

I'll bring you a good historical romance when I come to Cville. ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bruin on January 14, 2007, 07:47:51 PM
The Constitution of Virginia

Laaaaame

I'll bring you a good historical romance when I come to Cville. ;)

oh goody ;D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: pikey on January 14, 2007, 07:53:39 PM
my name has now been tainted and i must abandon it immediately (whew, that's a mouthful), I like books with cheesy titles corresponding to seasons, so I think I'll have to check those out!

I think possibly the most ridiculous book I've ever read that I secretly LOVE is "Small Town Girl" by LaVyrle Spencer (what kind of name is LaVyrle?).  Some book club sent it to my mom as a free trial offer, and it's shamefully fantastic.

I bought one other book by dear LaVyrle, but I couldn't get into it.  I think she was a one-book wonder for me.

Hahahaha... you can just call me oh snap for now, if you'd like.

I'll have to check that one out.  And Moni, I've seen some Julia Quinn books pop up on my Amazon recommendations (probably because of the Lisa Kleypas purchases), so do you have any specific titles you'd recommend?

I really like the Bridgerton series, which are listed here: http://www.juliaquinn.com/faq.htm (http://www.juliaquinn.com/faq.htm).  The only one I haven't read is "On the Way to the Wedding".  I've also read "To Catch and Heiress" and "How to Marry a Marquis". 

Lisa Kleypas looks good; I'll definitely check those out.  Another author that I really like is Eloisa James.  I also read a lot of Johanna Lindsey back in the day, the Malory novels being my favourite.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: kenny32 on January 14, 2007, 09:28:54 PM
The Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini

forgive me if i'm spelling his name wrong, but i don't have the book in front of me this moment.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: KingJamesFan on January 14, 2007, 11:48:37 PM
I just found my copy of the Professor and the Madman...definitely next on my reading list!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 15, 2007, 07:05:08 AM
The Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini

forgive me if i'm spelling his name wrong, but i don't have the book in front of me this moment.

That was a pretty decent book, except it made me feel awful.


By the way, I finished Snow Flower and the Secret Fan by Lisa Yee last night and I would recommend it for anyone who likes stories about historical Asia (along the lines of The Joy Luck Club).  I'm now starting American Born Chinese by Gene Yang.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 15, 2007, 11:12:00 AM
You are all primates.  >:(

Well, most of you are, anyway.


So? 


::flings feces::

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Thistle on January 15, 2007, 11:15:00 AM
The Constitution of Virginia


how about the porn version, 'the construction of vagina'?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on January 17, 2007, 07:02:02 AM
The Constitution of Virginia


how about the porn version, 'the construction of vagina'?

Might constriction be more fun, dear?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Thistle on January 17, 2007, 08:58:00 AM
The Constitution of Virginia


how about the porn version, 'the construction of vagina'?

Might constriction be more fun, dear?



i knew there was a better word, just didnt have the attention span to think about it  :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on January 17, 2007, 02:33:54 PM
The Constitution of Virginia

how about the porn version, 'the construction of vagina'?

Might constriction be more fun, dear?

i knew there was a better word, just didnt have the attention span to think about it  :D

Let's work on your stamina then.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 17, 2007, 03:05:58 PM
Okay, I should start sifting through this thread for five books to read in the next few months.

Unless someone feels like piping up.  I like absurd/eccentric plots written in strong, punchy prose.  If the sentences get too long and dreamy, I want to punch the writer.  That's probably because I hate that in myself.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 17, 2007, 03:15:25 PM
I've heard Vonnegut is the way to go.


What's The Corrections about?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 17, 2007, 03:20:03 PM
The Corrections! The Corrections!

I try to push that book on everyone, though. Not sure if it necessarily fits the bill based on your description.

Have you read all the good Vonnegut? Sounds sort of like what you're looking for, maybe. Slaughterhouse Five, for sure.

I couldn't get through The Corrections.  (Seriously, this thread makes me out to be an idiot)  I think my life was in transition around that time.  Maybe I'll try again.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: thestradgirl on January 17, 2007, 03:20:10 PM
The Corrections! The Corrections!

I try to push that book on everyone, though. Not sure if it necessarily fits the bill based on your description.

Have you read all the good Vonnegut? Sounds sort of like what you're looking for, maybe. Slaughterhouse Five, for sure.

Slaughter House Five!!
Cat's Cradle (especially now.)
Galapgaos!!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: thestradgirl on January 17, 2007, 03:25:11 PM
holy smokes, goaliechica. where'd you find that quote?? :o

edit: :D :D :D just followed the link. ugh.

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: mf22076 on January 17, 2007, 03:26:58 PM
1 L by Scott Turow... he is a complete spaz!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: thestradgirl on January 17, 2007, 03:27:33 PM
Okay, I should start sifting through this thread for five books to read in the next few months.

Unless someone feels like piping up.  I like absurd/eccentric plots written in strong, punchy prose.  If the sentences get too long and dreamy, I want to punch the writer.  That's probably because I hate that in myself.



Can't think of anything more suitable than Vonnegut. Also, his sentences do not meander.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 17, 2007, 03:29:01 PM
Okay, I should start sifting through this thread for five books to read in the next few months.

Unless someone feels like piping up.  I like absurd/eccentric plots written in strong, punchy prose.  If the sentences get too long and dreamy, I want to punch the writer.  That's probably because I hate that in myself.


Have you read any J.M. Coetzee?  From your homeland and all.


Yeah, I've been all over Coetzee for a while.  There's a thread where red. and I get into it regarding Coetzee.  I can't remember where, though.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 17, 2007, 03:35:43 PM
MELBELLE! (yes, I'm yelling to get your attention)

Did you read Shopaholic and Sister or the new one Shopaholic and Baby (or whatever it is called?)

I never did, and I'm wondering if I should.  Anything sounds better than not packing...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 17, 2007, 03:43:52 PM
MELBELLE! (yes, I'm yelling to get your attention)

Did you read Shopaholic and Sister or the new one Shopaholic and Baby (or whatever it is called?)

I never did, and I'm wondering if I should.  Anything sounds better than not packing...

Where are you off to?

I'm moving back to the motherland to live for free and whatnot before starting school.  Sniff.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on January 17, 2007, 03:44:16 PM
MELBELLE! (yes, I'm yelling to get your attention)

Did you read Shopaholic and Sister or the new one Shopaholic and Baby (or whatever it is called?)

I never did, and I'm wondering if I should.  Anything sounds better than not packing...

Hahaha good timing... yes I've read Shopaholic and Sister and it's great.  I haven't read the new one yet because I didn't know it was out, but I'll be picking it up soon enough if it is.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: FossilJ on January 17, 2007, 03:48:08 PM
Okay, I should start sifting through this thread for five books to read in the next few months.

Unless someone feels like piping up.  I like absurd/eccentric plots written in strong, punchy prose.  If the sentences get too long and dreamy, I want to punch the writer.  That's probably because I hate that in myself.


Have you read any J.M. Coetzee?  From your homeland and all.


Yeah, I've been all over Coetzee for a while.  There's a thread where red. and I get into it regarding Coetzee.  I can't remember where, though.


I figured, but I thought I would throw it out just in case.

Was red. against Coetzee somehow?

She was, but it may only have been Disgrace.  IIRC, though, it was the author.  I thought her reasoning was specious.

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on January 17, 2007, 03:50:46 PM
MELBELLE! (yes, I'm yelling to get your attention)

Did you read Shopaholic and Sister or the new one Shopaholic and Baby (or whatever it is called?)

I never did, and I'm wondering if I should.  Anything sounds better than not packing...

Hahaha good timing... yes I've read Shopaholic and Sister and it's great.  I haven't read the new one yet because I didn't know it was out, but I'll be picking it up soon enough if it is.

Dagnabbit, not out until February 27.  My bad.  >:(
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: newme165 on January 23, 2007, 06:54:04 AM
The Mis-Education of The Negro by Carter G. Woodson.
If you haven't read it yet you must because it is very "deep"
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ADL on January 23, 2007, 07:21:47 AM
"Freakonomics" by Levit & Dubner.  so far, it's good reading.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on January 23, 2007, 08:22:17 AM
Right now I'm actually reading Bridge to Terabithia b/c I saw a commercial for the new movie and reached over to my bookshelf at my mom's house and went "Hey, I have that ... I can't remember reading it, though"

I think it's one that I got when I was too young and it was over my head or something.



I love fun reading <3
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on January 23, 2007, 12:47:05 PM
Right now I'm actually reading Bridge to Terabithia b/c I saw a commercial for the new movie and reached over to my bookshelf at my mom's house and went "Hey, I have that ... I can't remember reading it, though"

I think it's one that I got when I was too young and it was over my head or something.



I love fun reading <3

Good call. I love that book. Didn't know they were making a movie.

I loved that book when I was little. However, the previews for the movie look nothing like anything I remember from the book. Perhaps it's just been too long since I've read it?

I think they are going overboard (or taking liberties) w/ the "imaginary world of Teribithia" so they can show off their special effects and make a movie worthy of being pared with Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings or Narnia  ::)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: molaw on February 20, 2007, 05:09:00 PM
For Whom the Bell Tolls.

New commute is giving me some nice extra reading time.

depressing and grim but in a good way! :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: molaw on February 20, 2007, 05:26:04 PM
For Whom the Bell Tolls.

New commute is giving me some nice extra reading time.

depressing and grim but in a good way! :D

Yeah, I can dig it. Hemingway isn't my favorite, but he rocks his style.

The title and opening quote (frontspiece? inscription?) do make me want to go dig up my Donne books instead.

The first half of the book is pretty slow, then it picks up.  And there's some good quotes from a fascist solider towards the end.
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Post by: jillibean on February 20, 2007, 06:22:13 PM
Gregory Maguire's Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister. I needed something I would actually read in a day and I'm 15 pages to the end. Really good- I recommend it
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: molaw on February 20, 2007, 06:31:38 PM
Gregory Maguire's Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister. I needed something I would actually read in a day and I'm 15 pages to the end. Really good- I recommend it

oohhh, i have this book but have yet to start...you may have inspired me.

I loved Wicked and Son of a Witch by Maguire.
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Post by: jillibean on February 20, 2007, 06:35:00 PM

oohhh, i have this book but have yet to start...you may have inspired me.

I loved Wicked and Son of a Witch by Maguire.

I'll start Wicked tomorrow. I bought them at the same time.Have you read "Mirror, Mirror". I'm guessing that by the sounds of it its about Snow White-- not sure though.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: molaw on February 20, 2007, 06:40:36 PM

oohhh, i have this book but have yet to start...you may have inspired me.

I loved Wicked and Son of a Witch by Maguire.

I'll start Wicked tomorrow. I bought them at the same time.Have you read "Mirror, Mirror". I'm guessing that by the sounds of it its about Snow White-- not sure though.

i have it, but have yet to read it, and yes, it's about snow white.

and after reading wicked i have such an affinity for the wicked witch of the west that i now get pissed off watching the wizard of oz!  :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bohemian_revolution on February 20, 2007, 06:42:11 PM
Respiracion Artificial by Ricardo Piglia and Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on February 20, 2007, 06:52:58 PM
I like Dan Brown.

 :D

 :D

I do, and I'm not afraid to say it.  I read loads of what other people call trash and I don't care.  :)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bohemian_revolution on February 20, 2007, 06:55:43 PM


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I love P&P, and there are many posters here who love Jane Austen! :)

I'm  re-reading it for stress relief. Mr. Darcy has to be my favorite fictional character EVER.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Thistle on February 20, 2007, 06:56:31 PM


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I love P&P, and there are many posters here who love Jane Austen! :)

I'm  re-reading it for stress relief. Mr. Darcy has to be my favorite fictional character EVER.


a girl i go to law school with has a dog named mr darcy
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bohemian_revolution on February 20, 2007, 06:58:48 PM


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I love P&P, and there are many posters here who love Jane Austen! :)

I'm  re-reading it for stress relief. Mr. Darcy has to be my favorite fictional character EVER.


a girl i go to law school with has a dog named mr darcy
:D
She pretty much wins at life with that alone.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bubDread on February 20, 2007, 07:07:02 PM
capitalism and freedom

by milton friedman
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 20, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
capitalism and freedom

by milton friedman

Yay!

I'm reading "Brave New World" and "Alphabet of Manliness."
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: jimfoolery on February 20, 2007, 07:08:32 PM
Freckle Juice
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Zam on February 21, 2007, 12:38:57 PM
I'm reading Susan Minot's Evening.

But I can't get into it.

I just re-read Slaughterhouse-Five and it's difficult for any author to meet Vonnegut level excitement.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Boss on February 21, 2007, 01:03:23 PM
Breakdown: How America's Intelligence Failure Led to 9/11
Bill Gertz


It's a very easy read, but it makes me really, really, hate the CIA, George Tenet, and start to think that the people who call America "terrorists" for invading Iraq without reason, might just be right.  We'll see though.  I still have a 150 pages left.  There might be time to turn it around for a happy ending.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on February 21, 2007, 01:09:24 PM
I believe Hank may be skipping out on an assignment from Gengis.  Which displeases me to no end.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: obamacon on February 21, 2007, 01:55:36 PM
Which displeases me to no end.

Have you noticed a streak of pomposity in your otherwise self-deprecating posts?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: obamacon on February 21, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
And it's pretty rich of you to call out someone else for pompousness.

It's not pompous if it's true.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ADL on February 21, 2007, 02:01:25 PM
i'm reading "Nothing's Sacred" by Lewis Black.  it's a good book.  it's pretty funny too.  i have a hard time holding in my laughter on the subway.  
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on February 21, 2007, 02:05:49 PM
And it's pretty rich of you to call out someone else for pompousness.

It's not pompous if it's true.

Ditto. 

And of course I'm pompous.  It's a good 5% of the persona:  70% dorky, 15% self-righteous, 10% sleazy, 5% pompous.

EDIT: Also, you forgot "rich" and "tall."
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on February 21, 2007, 02:07:59 PM
i'm reading "Nothing's Sacred" by Lewis Black.  it's a good book.  it's pretty funny too.  i have a hard time holding in my laughter on the subway.  

Oh, that's always so embarrassing!  Especially when I'm reading from my torts casebook!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: brown on February 21, 2007, 02:09:28 PM
And it's pretty rich of you to call out someone else for pompousness.

It's not pompous if it's true.

Ditto. 

And of course I'm pompous.  It's a good 5% of the persona:  70% dorky, 15% self-righteous, 10% sleazy, 5% pompous.

EDIT: Also, you forgot "rich" and "tall."

what's the difference between self-righteous and pompous?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: obamacon on February 21, 2007, 02:10:47 PM
Ditto. 

I couldn't delivery that joke without contradicting myself, sorry :)

Quote
EDIT: Also, you forgot "rich" and "tall."

It's starting to feel like divine right now that you mention it.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: obamacon on February 21, 2007, 02:11:29 PM
what's the difference between self-righteous and pompous?

A few hundred grand.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: obamacon on February 21, 2007, 02:18:24 PM
Oh, that's always so embarrassing!  Especially when I'm reading from my torts casebook!

You have no idea. Just last week even the pilots of my Sikorsky 61-N looked at me funny when I laughed out loud reading Unsafe at any speed.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on February 21, 2007, 02:28:10 PM
what's the difference between self-righteous and pompous?

There's barely even a connection.  Self-righteousness is moral.  Pomposity is aesthetic. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: brown on February 21, 2007, 02:32:00 PM
And it's pretty rich of you to call out someone else for pompousness.

It's not pompous if it's true.

Ditto. 

And of course I'm pompous.  It's a good 5% of the persona:  70% dorky, 15% self-righteous, 10% sleazy, 5% pompous.

EDIT: Also, you forgot "rich" and "tall."

what's the difference between self-righteous and pompous?

Miss P and Breadboy.

very nice.  never a disappointment.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: brown on February 21, 2007, 02:32:26 PM
what's the difference between self-righteous and pompous?

There's barely even a connection.  Self-righteousness is moral.  Pomposity is aesthetic. 

ah, thank you
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on February 21, 2007, 02:33:34 PM
Oh, that's always so embarrassing!  Especially when I'm reading from my torts casebook!

You have no idea. Just last week even the pilots of my Sikorsky 61-N looked at me funny when I laughed out loud reading Unsafe at any speed.

I'm sorry this got skipped over while we were all glorying in goalie's wit.  It's pretty good.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: obamacon on February 21, 2007, 02:44:13 PM
I'm sorry this got skipped over while we were all glorying in goalie's wit.  It's pretty good.

I'd say it was less skipped than envied and expected.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 21, 2007, 03:48:16 PM
I'll get to Gengis's assignment.

And I think being self-righteous is a good thing, even if it is misunderapplied.  Would you rather be self-wrong? 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: H4CS on February 21, 2007, 04:03:05 PM
I'm the most june person in all of the Russias.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on February 21, 2007, 05:05:50 PM
I'll get to Gengis's assignment.

And I think being self-righteous is a good thing, even if it is misapplied.  Would you rather be self-wrong? 

You sound like Dubya. In more than just making up your own words.

Hey, I thought you liked my self-righteousness!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 21, 2007, 09:40:35 PM
I'll get to Gengis's assignment.

And I think being self-righteous is a good thing, even if it is misapplied.  Would you rather be self-wrong? 

You sound like Dubya. In more than just making up your own words.

Edited. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on February 21, 2007, 10:56:18 PM
Just started reading He, She, and It

Like it so far ... wish I had more time for pleasure reading, though :(


Do manga count? (I feel they should!)  I'll hopefully be purchasing the fourth Eureka Seven volume this Saturday ... and maybe splurging on something else, too.  (We're having a bookstore fundraiser and get 15% of the profits, so that's my excuse for spending money I don't have) :-D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: obamacon on February 22, 2007, 12:28:02 PM
Do manga count?

I think you're in the wrong forum.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: h2xblive on February 22, 2007, 02:29:50 PM
Do manga count?

I think you're in the wrong forum.

 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on February 22, 2007, 05:18:45 PM
Do manga count?

I think you're in the wrong forum.

What exactly is that supposed to mean?  I can be reading books and manga at the same time.  It was just a comment.  In fact, our English department is thinking about incorporating graphic novels, manga, hypertexts (on the computer), etc. into our curriculum for the future.  There are new, different, and exciting forms of literature out there.  Catch up with the 21st century, why don't you?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ajlrf03 on February 22, 2007, 05:25:54 PM
I'm waiting in the airport, and I just finished Speed Queen.  It was pretty good, quick read.  It was for my Women & Crime lit class.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Human Fund on February 22, 2007, 05:29:13 PM

John Adams, David McCullough
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: rugercaptain on February 22, 2007, 05:34:41 PM
Title 44 of the Code of Federal Regulations:  Emergency Management and Assistance.

All of it.  Every single, frickin' boring page of it.  (Included in it is the Robert T. Stafford Act, you know, those regs that govern what FEMA is supposed to do during disasters.)

Alright, I'm not reading it 'cause I want to... >:(   >:(   >:(

rugercaptain
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Sunshine Bound on February 27, 2007, 07:43:20 PM
Voltaire, Candide. ha..the best of all possible worlds...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: kirkcameronsgf on February 27, 2007, 08:21:49 PM
I try to avoid all "deep" reading when it's not summer time..  so right now I am reading "Basket Case" by Carl Hiaasen.  Hi-larious.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: i'm just the banana shagging your wife, man on February 27, 2007, 08:34:06 PM
mozart and the whale. i really regret reading it. i did not realize there was a movie for the book until afterwards (you could not pay me to see the movie), and i only read it b/c a former coworker repeatedly insisted i read it. i KNEW i shouldn't have taken her advice. she thinks oprah's book club is the ultimate word in literary criticism.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: kirkcameronsgf on February 27, 2007, 08:41:41 PM
mozart and the whale. i really regret reading it. i did not realize there was a movie for the book until afterwards (you could not pay me to see the movie), and i only read it b/c a former coworker repeatedly insisted i read it. i KNEW i shouldn't have taken her advice. she thinks oprah's book club is the ultimate word in literary criticism.

I read this book that I really enjoyed..  later I found out that it was in oprah's book club and I hated myself for liking it.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Sunshine Bound on February 28, 2007, 01:36:55 AM
mozart and the whale. i really regret reading it. i did not realize there was a movie for the book until afterwards (you could not pay me to see the movie), and i only read it b/c a former coworker repeatedly insisted i read it. i KNEW i shouldn't have taken her advice. she thinks oprah's book club is the ultimate word in literary criticism.

I read this book that I really enjoyed..  later I found out that it was in oprah's book club and I hated myself for liking it.

I had the exact same experience with 'a million little pieces' by James Frey. I hated myself even more after the book turned out to be a fraud.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: h2xblive on February 28, 2007, 08:09:38 AM
The Client
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Edna St. Vincent Millay on February 28, 2007, 08:12:40 AM
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, actually. I used to laugh about HP fans, but not anymore. :)

And I always read my New Yorker magazine.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bamf on February 28, 2007, 08:16:09 AM
John Updike, Rabbit, Run.  I think I'll finish that tonight and start Portnoy's Complaint.

quality read ... have you read American Pastoral?  ... the best Roth by far.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: leostrauss on February 28, 2007, 08:18:20 AM
Blood Meridian
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Post by: kirkcameronsgf on February 28, 2007, 08:20:10 AM
Anyone else read "The Historian"?  I don't normally like thriller/fantasy books, but I enjoyed that one.  I felt like I actually learned something when I was done with it.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: jimfoolery on February 28, 2007, 11:29:48 AM
The Subterraneans, Kerouac

How is it?  Big Sur was the last straw for Kerouac and me; I'll always cherish the memories, though. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: jimfoolery on February 28, 2007, 11:53:47 AM
The Subterraneans, Kerouac

How is it?  Big Sur was the last straw for Kerouac and me; I'll always cherish the memories, though. 

I like it so far, although I feel like I'm missing a lot. I've never read anything by him, which just seems wrong.

Interesting first choice.  Why not On the Road?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: t... on February 28, 2007, 06:32:38 PM
I'm waiting for my copy of Cadillac Desert to come in the mail, and I'm currently sludging through Nussbaum's Upheavals of Thought, Arundhati Roy's little book on empire, and reading some Dorothy Parker and John Cheever short stories.

I feel like I should be reading something more....important. Ya know, in preparation of law school and all that.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on March 02, 2007, 07:57:20 AM
I liked American Pastoral a lot, and I don't like a lot of Roth's other stuff.

I am about to start reading The Sherwood Scandal. My penultimate houseguest picked it up for me at some seedy used-book shop in the Tenderloin, so I thought I'd give it a try. I think it promises to be sordid....

Damned superior houseguest!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ADL on March 02, 2007, 08:07:22 AM
"The Truth - with Jokes" by Al Franken.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Ersatz on March 02, 2007, 10:36:27 AM
Supreme Conflict by Jan Crawford Greenburg. Really great boook about the recent shaping of the Supreme Court based in large part on extensive interviews with former clerks, politicians, etc.

Ugh, I can't stand Jack Kerouac.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Denny Crane on March 03, 2007, 12:06:36 PM
"International Economics and International Economic Policy, Fourth Edition"

Surprisingly, it's a really great book. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Sunshine Bound on March 04, 2007, 03:26:06 AM
Paul Auster, the Brooklyn Follies

I haven't read the NY Trilogy so it's my first Auster..and I like it so far
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on March 04, 2007, 04:11:05 AM
a history of china

j.a.g. roberts


...a wonderful book...
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on March 05, 2007, 10:44:24 AM
The Historian
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: kirkcameronsgf on March 05, 2007, 10:47:36 AM
The Historian

<3
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on March 05, 2007, 01:40:35 PM
The Historian

<3

Yeah I love it so far
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Denny Crane on March 05, 2007, 01:45:16 PM
My culminating paper for my major, which I have to defend in front of a faculty panel in 15 minutes!

GAH!!!!!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on March 05, 2007, 01:46:53 PM
My culminating paper for my major, which I have to defend in front of a faculty panel in 15 minutes!

GAH!!!!!

 :o

Stop posting

and good luck
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Denny Crane on March 05, 2007, 03:25:15 PM
My culminating paper for my major, which I have to defend in front of a faculty panel in 15 minutes!

GAH!!!!!

 :o

Stop posting

and good luck

Thanks.  I got through it, with distinction!  Now I can focus on my two midterms this week (really, the insanity in my life never ends).

This means now I'm reading my social psychology textbook and classnotes.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Lily Jaye on March 05, 2007, 06:20:26 PM
Terry Eagleton, The Idea of Culture.

Things without footnotes kinda scare me, though. :-\
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Lily Jaye on March 05, 2007, 06:24:58 PM
Good book. Wrong, but highly entertaining. He's just as witty in person.

Good to know.  Red?

Lily!!!  How the heck are ya?

Bizzy little bee.  How're you?  I've missed you guys! :'(
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Lily Jaye on March 05, 2007, 06:31:01 PM
Yep, that's red.

I'm pretty good; Michigan ASW is this week.

Lucky!

I'm sorry I missed you guys for GULC's ASW. My new migraine meds were knocking me on my ass. :-\
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Slow Children At Play on March 05, 2007, 06:32:28 PM
Madame Bovary--I'm trying to make up for my "classics" deficiency.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bittrsweet on March 05, 2007, 06:32:55 PM
i tend to read multiple things at a time:

the god delusion by richard dawkins
beloved by toni morrison
states and power in africa by jeffrey herbst
the six day war by michael oren

Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Lily Jaye on March 05, 2007, 06:34:41 PM
Are they at least taking care of the migraines?

Yeah -- but the nausea was so bad I stopped leaving my house. w00t pyrrhic victories!

So now I'm squeaky clean and skipping class. Which is the better option, IMO. ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Lily Jaye on March 05, 2007, 06:41:01 PM
Anyhoo, off to try to pretend like I can figure out what's going on with the set. (Long story.) G'night. :)

(And since it's spring break, I'll probably be around tomorrow! w00t! ;D)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bittrsweet on March 05, 2007, 06:51:12 PM
states and power in africa by jeffrey herbst

Meh.

lol. that one is a little random, but my nigerian friend recommended it since my knowledge on africa is zero.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 05, 2007, 09:13:52 PM
Fair Tax book by Neal Boortz.   
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bittrsweet on March 05, 2007, 09:28:34 PM
states and power in africa by jeffrey herbst

Meh.

lol. that one is a little random, but my nigerian friend recommended it since my knowledge on africa is zero.

I recommend Kapuscinski Shadow of the Sun for a deadly accurate take on the feel of Africa and for snapshots of its postcolonial history.  It's not his best book on Africa, but it is a good introduction.

and
Achille Mbembe's On the Postcolony is a good take on Africa as a subject of academic inquiry.



thanks, i'll check those out.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 07, 2007, 08:30:34 PM
Same thing I was reading 2 months ago.   The name of the Rose.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: nerdphanie on March 08, 2007, 02:02:56 AM
A Wild Sheep Chase by Murakami Haruki. Pretty fun, though the translation work is choppy.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: bohemian_revolution on March 08, 2007, 04:59:33 PM
Cervantes o la Critica de la lectura and Terra Nostra, both by Carlos Fuentes. Ah, senior thesis, how I love you.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on March 10, 2007, 12:31:49 AM
Now I'm reading White Teeth (again).

You know, I thoroughly enjoyed On Beauty.  It's not as interesting as White Teeth, but it's a more successful novel, I think.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: EEtoJD on March 10, 2007, 04:04:36 AM
I'm reading The Annotated Alice. It's both Alice books annotated only with the non-speculative stuff (doesn't include any theories about mushrooms...)... Victorian morality was weird.

In case you didn't know, Carroll was a mathematician and there are lots of math and science references. He was also a minister, so lots of biblical references also.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on March 10, 2007, 07:47:40 AM
White Teeth was a real disappointment to me.  I thought it really inauthentic and superficial.  Sort of like The Corrections in that way.

I kind of agree.  That's why I said interesting and not great, despite some really fun writerly bits, some laugh-out-loud moments, and some keen observations. 

On Beauty is better (Autograph Man is worse).  There's some pathos in there, but it's not her strong suit.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on March 10, 2007, 08:04:57 AM
I'll try On Beauty.

I had some problems with it (particularly its bizarrely tone-deaf rehearsal of the type of academic politics I used to follow pretty closely and its characterization of one of the young African-American characters), but I think it is a fairly successful and much more even novel.  And I did cry at some point, so it had to have a modicum of soul.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 10, 2007, 11:00:59 PM
White Teeth was a real disappointment to me.  I thought it really inauthentic and superficial.  Sort of like The Corrections in that way.

I liked The Corrections a lot. Although I don't necessarily disagree with your characterization. I just liked it anyway, and thought it was hilarious.

I loved The Corrections - I actually just recommended it to a friend.

Currently, I'm re-reading The Three Musketeers

D'Artagnan reminds me of myself.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on March 11, 2007, 12:26:48 PM
(sigh) I long for the days when I can actually read for pleasure again.  Seems like these days the only things I actually start AND finish are children's books.  No, seriously.   :P

There are a couple of titles in various stages of completion though, among them are Groundwork: Charles Hamilton Houston and The Struggle for Civil Rights, Bullwhip Days: The Slaves Remember, and Emma.  My goal is to finish these and a few more during the upcoming summer. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 11, 2007, 01:06:59 PM
I just finished the Fair Tax book (abolish the IRS!).

Now I'm looking to read something related to the American Revolution.  I'd prefer a biography that not only examines one person but is also comprehensive of the rest of the politics of the age.  Obviously there are a lot of options...any recommendations?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 11, 2007, 05:29:22 PM
I'm currently reading Manhunt: The 12 Day Chase for Lincoln's Killer

1776 was pretty good, as far as the Revolution goes.

I tend to get fixed on a certain period of history for a while, and then switch to another.  Right now I'm in my Lincoln/Civil War phase again.       

On a random note, I just finished Little Children, which I enjoyed, and I don't really read/like a lot of fiction.

Did you see/like the movie?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 11, 2007, 08:12:48 PM
Todd Field is really good--he directed In the Bedroom as well.  I wanted to see Little Children, but I haven't gotten around to it. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 11, 2007, 09:00:58 PM
I did see In the Bedroom. 

The guy who wrote Little Children (the book) wrote Election, too, which I didn't know until I liked Little Children and went in search of more by the author on Amazon. 

Election was a really good movie too.  Hmm, I'll have to see Little Children soon!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on March 11, 2007, 09:55:11 PM
I just finished The Year of Magical Thinking.  I expected to be incredibly moved and have it "speak to me" (whatever that means), but I felt rather flat when I finished.

Oh well.
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Post by: ->Soon on March 12, 2007, 04:54:10 AM
conan.

we just dont use the word Wenchs enough these days...
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Post by: rebeccakay on March 12, 2007, 05:25:48 AM
David Limbaugh's Persecution.  FANTASTIC!!
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Post by: Freak on March 12, 2007, 07:33:02 AM
50 Reasons Why Jesus Came to Die - John Piper
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Post by: Little D on March 12, 2007, 07:34:58 AM
um...bail to jail?
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Post by: Freak on March 12, 2007, 07:41:03 AM
um...bail to jail?

Actually more jail to bail...but ya I began it yesterday.
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Post by: ->Soon on March 16, 2007, 03:37:46 PM
http://www.amazon.com/a-hole-Rule-Civilized-Workplace-Surviving/dp/0446526568/ref=sr_1_1/002-3275348-3749616?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174080559&sr=8-1
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on March 16, 2007, 04:16:04 PM
I finally started reading Claire Messud's The Emperor's Children, and I'm really enjoying it.  It's breezy and a touch trashy, but it has the imprimatur of the NYT Book Review "Best Book of the Year" right across its cover.  So there.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Slow Children At Play on March 16, 2007, 06:29:04 PM
I finally started reading Claire Messud's The Emperor's Children, and I'm really enjoying it.  It's breezy and a touch trashy, but it has the imprimatur of the NYT Book Review "Best Book of the Year" right across its cover.  So there.

That's what I'll be reading on the airplane tomorrow.  Boo ya.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 16, 2007, 06:45:33 PM
I'm reading something for school about Indian independence from Britain.   :-\

Not that exciting, although I do admire those Indians!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 16, 2007, 06:51:33 PM
Goalie, I asked you a question via your lsn profile. 
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on March 16, 2007, 08:44:01 PM
I finally started reading Claire Messud's The Emperor's Children, and I'm really enjoying it.  It's breezy and a touch trashy, but it has the imprimatur of the NYT Book Review "Best Book of the Year" right across its cover.  So there.

That's what I'll be reading on the airplane tomorrow.  Boo ya.

Perfect plane reading if you have a high tolerance for pseudo-critical takes on my navel-gazing generation/socioeconomic class.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Slow Children At Play on March 16, 2007, 08:47:12 PM
I finally started reading Claire Messud's The Emperor's Children, and I'm really enjoying it.  It's breezy and a touch trashy, but it has the imprimatur of the NYT Book Review "Best Book of the Year" right across its cover.  So there.

That's what I'll be reading on the airplane tomorrow.  Boo ya.

Perfect plane reading if you have a high tolerance for pseudo-critical takes on my navel-gazing generation/socioeconomic class.

Done and done ;D
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on March 16, 2007, 08:54:19 PM
I finally started reading Claire Messud's The Emperor's Children, and I'm really enjoying it.  It's breezy and a touch trashy, but it has the imprimatur of the NYT Book Review "Best Book of the Year" right across its cover.  So there.

That's what I'll be reading on the airplane tomorrow.  Boo ya.

Perfect plane reading if you have a high tolerance for pseudo-critical takes on my navel-gazing generation/socioeconomic class.

Noted.

I love my navel.

Archival, the characters went to Brown.  And they live in New York.  And they're thirty.  In 2001.  It's perfect, as you can imagine.  (Though if it really is one of the ten best books of last year, I'm glad I was barely reading. :D )
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on March 16, 2007, 09:36:08 PM
Time to delete out, then take a bath with some adolescent fiction.  Have a lovely evening!

You too.  I think I may follow in your footsteps, minus the deleting, of course.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Poster on March 17, 2007, 12:31:34 AM
Stop being such an elitist snob, goalie.

 >:( :'(

I personally am reading Berenstein Bears Get the Gimmies.


No, actually I'm still finishing up the Alice Munro.....

Berenstein Bears and the Dress Code
, dammit.

(http://images.buch.de/03/17/24/03172461_b001.jpg)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on March 17, 2007, 09:16:27 AM
Archival, the characters went to Brown.  And they live in New York.  And they're thirty.  In 2001.  It's perfect, as you can imagine.  (Though if it really is one of the ten best books of last year, I'm glad I was barely reading. :D )

"Ooh, my incarcerated business partner's retarded gay niece went to Brown!"

As did your SFLSD'ango's narcissistic, mostly-gay special guest!  And she flunked out, too!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: The Poster on March 17, 2007, 12:55:48 PM
Stop being such an elitist snob, goalie.

 >:( :'(

I personally am reading Berenstein Bears Get the Gimmies.


No, actually I'm still finishing up the Alice Munro.....

Berenstein Bears and the Dress Code
, dammit.

(http://images.buch.de/03/17/24/03172461_b001.jpg)

Yay!

(Check out the new 'tar.)

About time.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Sunshine Bound on March 19, 2007, 01:50:22 AM
Oscar Wilde's the Portrait of Dorian Gray.
Love it.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: kirkcameronsgf on March 19, 2007, 07:38:10 AM
Oscar Wilde's the Portrait of Dorian Gray.
Love it.

One of my favorites.  Good choice.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on March 20, 2007, 09:56:56 AM
Memoirs of a Geisha

And I've decided manga DO count b/c I am reading through the Death Note series and it is EXCELLENT!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: nerdphanie on March 21, 2007, 05:52:34 PM
^ I confess to being a huge manga-nerd...loved death note  ::)
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Post by: brown on March 22, 2007, 08:43:28 AM
William S Burroughs' Junky

You chasing the dragon?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: stjobs on March 27, 2007, 07:10:19 PM
Skadden: Power, Money, and the Rise of a Legal Empire (Lincoln Caplan)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 28, 2007, 01:37:02 PM
Skadden: Power, Money, and the Rise of a Legal Empire (Lincoln Caplan)

Hah, I want to read that.  I tease my friend who is an LA at Skadden all the time about it.

"Free to Choose" by Milton Friedman
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on March 28, 2007, 03:58:16 PM
(sigh) I've started yet another book before finishing another.   :P   

As of this weekend, I'm reading Up From Slavery by Booker T. Washington.  It is phenomenal!  I highly recommend it to everyone, even if you think you have absolutely no interest in the subject.  About two chapters would change your mind rather quickly.  People on the subway here must think I'm crazy for the way I carry on in the mornings...sometimes I'm laughing aloud  :D , other days I'm wiping silent tears  :'(.  It's just that good!   (And it makes me think that I'm going to come up with a reading list for my future children someday soon...)

Also, I started reading the free book that UPenn mailed...the one from one of the recently published law profs.  I requested the one on the Icaran effect in American corporate life.  I can't remember the exact title, and I'm too tired to go look.  I was pleasantly surprised that the introductory chapter actually held my attention much longer than I expected.  Who knows?  I just may finish it by summer. 
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Post by: Freak on March 28, 2007, 05:34:38 PM
"Prison Letters" by Corrie Ten Boom. And I complained about lawschool...
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Post by: stjobs on March 28, 2007, 05:43:13 PM
Hey, I asked for Icarus in the Boardroom from Penn. It should be interesting. This Skadden book is pretty juicy.
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Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on March 28, 2007, 07:14:30 PM
Yeah, that's the one!
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Post by: pdxsaint on March 29, 2007, 03:11:04 PM
Dreadnought: Britain, Germany and the Coming of the Great War by Robert Massie.

It is a fascinating narrative of the complicated and intricate rivalries, dynastic squabbles and politics behind the First World War.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: LadyKateSD on March 29, 2007, 03:32:25 PM
"Freedom on Fire" by John Shattuck. Great book (about America's response to the international human rights war of the 1990s) 
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Post by: pdxsaint on April 02, 2007, 05:26:49 PM
Finished Dreadnought, now working on Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.
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Post by: Big Slick on April 02, 2007, 05:32:15 PM
Petition for Writ of Certiorari, Lanco, Inc., V. Director, Division of Taxation (NJ)
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Post by: kirkcameronsgf on April 03, 2007, 08:08:54 AM
I'm trying to read Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond, but I keep getting distracted.
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Post by: Demigoddess on April 03, 2007, 10:51:42 AM
The Money Book for the Young, Fabulous, and BROKE by Suze Orman. Definitely worth picking up especially since you are all most likely making a "career change." (Law school = career change)

I haven't even finished it but I no longer have a seizure when I think of my finances.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on April 03, 2007, 11:54:06 AM
I've never quite known what to make of Suze Orman.  Whenever I see her on those cheesy infomercial-type programs, I always reach for the remote.  It's good to hear someone with a different perspective though.  I might borrow the book just to see what she has to say for a career changer like me.   :)
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Post by: Kitty782 on April 03, 2007, 11:55:41 AM
Company by Max Barry. 
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Post by: SilentSwirl on April 03, 2007, 12:17:57 PM
For class, but which I surprisingly really enjoy: The Professor's House, by Willa Cather

For myself: Literature from the "Axis of Evil", Writing from Iran, Iraq, North Korea, and Other Enemy Nations, an anthology by the people at Words Without Borders.

And to plug Words Without Borders, they are simply amazing! Check them out at http://www.wordswithoutborders.org
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on April 09, 2007, 12:53:41 PM
How do you like The Year of Magical Thinking?

I heard Joan interviewed on NPR (although I was only half listening because I was lost in Camden, in the dark, at the time) and I found her very interesting

I know you didn't ask me, but I'm going to answer.

I found it lacking.  It had been built up in my mind as this life-altering treatise on grief and dealing with traumatic situations.  When I didn't relate, and found her rather annoying, the book became a disappointment.

Which goes to why managing expectations is a good thing.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on April 09, 2007, 01:00:53 PM
And hi sillyberry! Long time no chat!

No kidding!  I think I've been hanging out in too many Michigan threads.  They're a vortex.

I wish you were "still looking" and thus visiting Chicago this weekend.   :(
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on April 09, 2007, 01:24:30 PM
Ever see the Berkeley commercial with the animated bear and her speech? It's great.

Oops! Inadvertent Cal ignoring!

I have not seen it. I will keep an eye out.

And hi sillyberry! Long time no chat!

No kidding!  I think I've been hanging out in too many Michigan threads.  They're a vortex.

I wish you were "still looking" and thus visiting Chicago this weekend.   :(

Aw, that would've been fun!  I wish I'd gotten my act together for more of these fun time ASW's.  :-\ Are you still undecided, then? I feel like your heart longs for Chicago, really, although it's rough when all the cool kids are going to Mich....

Indeed, still undecided.  I'm hoping this weekend will help me decide once and for all, but the other wrinkle is that I'm trying to get more money from Chicago and might not know until right against the April 30th deadline whether my wish will be granted.

For the longest time I felt that I had forever to make a decision, and now I have 21 days.  I hate you a little.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Hank Rearden on April 09, 2007, 01:49:04 PM


Aw, that would've been fun!  I wish I'd gotten my act together for more of these fun time ASW's.  :-\ Are you still undecided, then? I feel like your heart longs for Chicago, really, although it's rough when all the cool kids are going to Mich....

First response is credited; second is not. 

Dude, try The White Album.  It's much better than TYoMT.

There's a book about White Album?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: fuwaf on April 09, 2007, 02:04:16 PM
Hey sillyberry, I just picked up Shopaholic and Baby and started reading it today. ;)
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: sillyberry on April 09, 2007, 02:13:20 PM
Hey sillyberry, I just picked up Shopaholic and Baby and started reading it today. ;)

Now that's literature I can get behind!
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on April 09, 2007, 08:29:49 PM
I bought an anthology of stories about causal gay sex, watersports, and incest at the airport in Seattle  ;D

Not at Powell's PDX (http://www.powells.com/info/places/airportinfo.html)?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Miss P on April 09, 2007, 08:43:52 PM
No never been to Portland

Pobrecito.
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Post by: Miss P on April 09, 2007, 08:51:52 PM

Title?  ;)

High Risk

http://www.amazon.com/High-Risk-Anthology-Forbidden-Writings/dp/0452265827/ref=sr_1_6/104-6472967-4127115?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176173163&sr=1-6 (http://www.amazon.com/High-Risk-Anthology-Forbidden-Writings/dp/0452265827/ref=sr_1_6/104-6472967-4127115?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176173163&sr=1-6)

lol. I have two copies of that book.  Cady, I'll give you one next time you come visit.

EDIT: I'll throw in a copy of The New @#!* You (http://www.amazon.com/New-@#!*-You-Native-Agents/dp/1570270570).
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Post by: Miss P on April 09, 2007, 09:08:13 PM
:-*  Did you see I might come up the weekend of the 3rd? I'd guess that puts you squarely in exam time though?

Squarely in exam time.  I have finals on the 4th and the 7th, so I can't socialize that weekend.   :'(


Gengis, you're very welcome to one of my copies of High Risk.  For keeps, if you so desire.  Sorry the other link is broken.  It's from Amazon, so I don't know why.  Anyway, look it up.  It's edited by Eileen Myles.

Finally, credo, touche.
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Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 10, 2007, 09:53:41 PM
Radicals for Capitalism
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Post by: Miss P on April 11, 2007, 03:06:59 PM
::pushes self away from table with such force that her chair falls backwards::
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: nowitzness on April 11, 2007, 09:24:33 PM
I really wasn't a fan of Morrison's Paradise.  Oprah needs to pick better books. ;)  Right now I just purchased "The World is Flat", "Freakonomics", and "Life of PI".

And yes, I know I'm way behind on reading, but during school it's tough to motivate myself to read for pleasure between the long reading assignments, class, activities/clubs, and my part-time job.

World is Flat + Freakonomics are both awesome :)

I have not read the "Life of PI" - let me know if thats any good  8)

Currently reading:   "1776"

just finished that one, guess i'm going to have to read John Adams now
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: KingJamesFan on April 15, 2007, 12:30:56 PM
I'm finally getting around to Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence....I don't know yet if I like it or not.
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Post by: Sunshine Bound on April 15, 2007, 06:55:21 PM
'A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius' by Dave Eggers

and just purchased
'Slaughter-house five' by K. Vonnegut(RIP..)
'Complete short fiction' by O. Wilde
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Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 15, 2007, 07:22:24 PM
Aburdistan. Fantastic thus far, but I'm not sure it's not simply a less elegant Confederacy of Dunces in a different, albeit, more singular and politically relevant setting.
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Post by: Sunshine Bound on April 16, 2007, 08:25:10 PM
haha..I finished the book in less than a day. he's def one of my favorite tv persons  ;D
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Post by: GloveDoesntFit on April 16, 2007, 08:46:06 PM
(http://research.amnh.org/~tyson/images/books/DeathByBlackHole.jpg)
(Great read!)

Recently finished:
(http://z.about.com/d/ancienthistory/1/8/t/A/2/Goldsworthyjacket.JPG)
(Awesome read!)

and

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n152/eyekeeneye/blog/cesarsway.jpg)
fun if you like dogs, quick read. Handy.
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Post by: GloveDoesntFit on April 16, 2007, 08:53:13 PM
Finishing up Right Address on audio - great distraction for road trips.  Already stocked up on 6 more audio books for business trips and the big move to AL.

Just started The Prosecutors: A Year in the Life of a District Attorney's Office.  I definitely respect DA's, but have nooooo desire to ever be one.  Of course to make it interesting they profile the Homicide and Major Crimes division, and that's just too gruesome for me to do on a daily basis.

What town are you moving to, Boss?
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Post by: bamf on April 16, 2007, 09:06:08 PM
'A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius' by Dave Eggers

and just purchased
'Slaughter-house five' by K. Vonnegut(RIP..)
'Complete short fiction' by O. Wilde

maybe you've read it but if you don't know vonnegut I like Cats Cradle better and think it might be a better introduction to him.  Slaughterhouse five is good, but I feel like I "got it" a lot more after I read other vonnegut.  Also the autobiography Fates Worse Than Death is pretty darn good.
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Post by: t... on April 16, 2007, 10:01:01 PM
Memoirs of Hadrian
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Post by: dashrashi on April 16, 2007, 10:43:57 PM
Processes of Constitutional Decision-Making.

I really f-ing hate school.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: Sunshine Bound on April 16, 2007, 11:06:52 PM
'A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius' by Dave Eggers

and just purchased
'Slaughter-house five' by K. Vonnegut(RIP..)
'Complete short fiction' by O. Wilde

maybe you've read it but if you don't know vonnegut I like Cats Cradle better and think it might be a better introduction to him.  Slaughterhouse five is good, but I feel like I "got it" a lot more after I read other vonnegut.  Also the autobiography Fates Worse Than Death is pretty darn good.

yeh Slaughterhouse five was going to be my first Vonnegut, but now that you suggested it, I'm getting those two as well. thanks.
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Post by: Freak on April 17, 2007, 08:02:04 AM
David Copperfield by Charles Dickens - all 870 pages...
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Post by: pipster215 on April 17, 2007, 08:07:37 AM
Suite Francaise by Irene Nemirovsky. In French. Not very quickly.
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Post by: dashrashi on April 17, 2007, 02:11:13 PM
Red, are you coming to Yale this week?
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Post by: dashrashi on April 17, 2007, 02:23:42 PM
Red, are you coming to Yale this week?

No, not for ASW.  I'll be there in May

Too bad for you, I suppose. I'm organizing a protest against box lunches, to be held at the Yankee Doodle.

(When in May? I'll be in and out between finals, Myrtle Beach, and commencement.)
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Post by: WGWAG on April 17, 2007, 02:37:15 PM
WGWAG
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Post by: Miss P on April 17, 2007, 02:38:39 PM
Processes of Constitutional Decision-Making.

I really f-ing hate school.

Wait, I think this is a fabulous casebook!  What's wrong with it?
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: dashrashi on April 17, 2007, 02:39:59 PM
Processes of Constitutional Decision-Making.

I really f-ing hate school.

Wait, I think this is a fabulous casebook!  What's wrong with it?

It's not a fashion magazine. Also it's enormous and heavy. (I actually like it as a text book. It's very chatty and colloquial.)
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Post by: yongsoo on April 17, 2007, 02:59:32 PM
Camus's The Stranger
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Post by: h2xblive on April 17, 2007, 02:59:57 PM
Camus's The Stranger

Do you like that book?
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Post by: Johnny Stuffs His Mouth on April 17, 2007, 03:04:15 PM
Re-reading Dreiser's An American Tragedy.
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Post by: Miss P on April 17, 2007, 03:25:24 PM
Also it's enormous and heavy.

Well, so is the September Vogue.  But yes, it should be split into two volumes.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: yongsoo on April 17, 2007, 04:06:09 PM
Camus's The Stranger

Do you like that book?

It's alright so far...it's really short, but I just haven't had the time to sit down and really read it :P
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: h2xblive on April 17, 2007, 06:59:13 PM
Camus's The Stranger

Do you like that book?

It's alright so far...it's really short, but I just haven't had the time to sit down and really read it :P

You're not missing much.
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Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on April 17, 2007, 07:30:34 PM
Law School Confidential
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Post by: yongsoo on April 17, 2007, 09:10:18 PM
Camus's The Stranger

Do you like that book?

It's alright so far...it's really short, but I just haven't had the time to sit down and really read it :P

You're not missing much.

I figured as much. I had just finished Brothers Karamazov, and I think I may be spoiled on really good literature for sometime.
By the way.

Everyone should read that book, if only for the court room chapters
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Post by: xsnrg on April 17, 2007, 09:17:21 PM
just finished the 48 laws of power by robert greene. although it is a long book it is probably one of the best and most influential books i have ever read.
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Post by: nerdphanie on April 18, 2007, 02:59:49 AM
White Noise by Don DeLillo.  It's better the second time around.
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Post by: Team Pam on April 18, 2007, 03:19:11 AM
Just finished Special Topics in Calamity Physics, which was disappointing and a little too "inspired" by The Secret History, which was much better written.  I need something new now.  Considering America's Constitution: A Biography.
Title: Re: What are you reading right now?
Post by: dashrashi on April 18, 2007, 07:46:41 AM
America's Constitution: A Biography.

Useful, but not even remotely a quick read. The first two or so chapters I really had to slog through. Which is weird, because he's so engaging in class. Take it out from the library, but don't buy it, I'd say. Unless you just want to support Amar, which I am in favor of.
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Post by: Team Pam on April 18, 2007, 08:15:16 AM
America's Constitution: A Biography.

Useful, but not even remotely a quick read. The first two or so chapters I really had to slog through. Which is weird, because he's so engaging in class. Take it out from the library, but don't buy it, I'd say. Unless you just want to support Amar, which I am in favor of.

Wow, my library actually has it.  I'm somewhat astonished.  Although I'm so bad about returning books on time that it may still be cheaper to get it from Amazon, where it's been lingering on my wishlist for months.  I'm definitely in a serious non-fiction mood.
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Post by: beeker on April 18, 2007, 09:09:13 AM
Just read Ant Farm by Simon Rich last night...very quick read, entertaining, short short stories.  The kid's a senior at Harvard, former editor of the Harvard Lampoon.  It's been getting lots of press, I was skeptical but it's good.

Just started, Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your High School History Textbook Got Wrong by James Loewen, pretty decent...good for US History nerds I think.



Anyone read Anonymous Lawyer?....pretty funny, lot of repetition from the blog, but worth reading anyway.
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Post by: michelle d on April 18, 2007, 10:46:16 AM
re-reading Hardboiled Wonderland by H. Murakami and avoiding anything related to law or legal practice.
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Post by: nerdphanie on April 18, 2007, 12:09:13 PM
re-reading Hardboiled Wonderland by H. Murakami and avoiding anything related to law or legal practice.

I love murakami! I haven't read that one, though, how is it?
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Post by: michelle d on April 18, 2007, 12:37:28 PM
re-reading Hardboiled Wonderland by H. Murakami and avoiding anything related to law or legal practice.

I love murakami! I haven't read that one, though, how is it?

hm... better than Kafka, not quite the magnum opus Windup Bird is?  It is to Windup Bird what Persuasion is to Pride and Prejudice :)  It's a little less complex than Windup Bird (single main plotline) but it has that remarkably constructed Murakami-esque reality/alternate and it's very engaging.  It's one of my favorite Murakami novels and definitely worth a read.

I tend to mentally equate Haruki and Ryu Murakami, despite the fact that there's no relation.  They work in the same genre to some degree; if you haven't read his works there's some crossover appeal in that sort of odd postmodern Japanese genre in Coin Locker Babies, et&. (though Ryu is the "edgier" author and not quiet as mature stylistically as Haruki.)
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Post by: nerdphanie on April 18, 2007, 12:46:57 PM
^Never read Ryu. I'll definitely check out Hardboiled Wonderland.  I'm reading kafka right now whenever I have the chance to get away from schoolwork.
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Post by: Booyakasha2 on April 19, 2007, 08:01:27 PM
a civil action
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Post by: kirkcameronsgf on April 23, 2007, 09:18:57 AM
I'm reading a biography of Oscar Wilde.  It's pretty good.
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Post by: Ersatz on April 27, 2007, 10:07:01 PM
White Noise by Don DeLillo.  It's better the second time around.

Huh. I really didn't like it the first and only time I read it. Maybe I should give it another shot.
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Post by: Hank Rearden on April 28, 2007, 03:12:09 AM
"The Art of Seduction"

for a second time   ;)
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Post by: Alamo on April 28, 2007, 06:14:43 AM
A collection of Orwell essays. I also recently read Devil in the White City, which I found pretty enthralling for a popular history.
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Post by: ResIpsa on April 29, 2007, 02:40:13 PM
tag.

can anyone recommend anything similar to catcher in the rye?
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Post by: dashrashi on April 29, 2007, 02:49:43 PM
Franny and Zooey springs to mind. Similar how, though?
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Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 29, 2007, 03:01:42 PM
tag.

can anyone recommend anything similar to catcher in the rye?

Angsty coming of age novels, or Salinger?
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Post by: ResIpsa on April 29, 2007, 03:04:05 PM
both. i've been thinking of reading salinger's other novels but don't know which. i'm also currently in a very 'catcher' mood, but i dont feel like rereading the novel for the #th time when there are tons of other books out there.

so, suggestions, please. :)
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Post by: Boyce Baylor on April 29, 2007, 03:19:40 PM
For Salinger: Franny and Zooey and Nine Stories are both wonderful.

The book that most reminds me of Catcher in the Rye is A Separate Peace, but it is more of a young adult book.

As far as good disaffected rich kid books, I would say Bright Lights, Big City or Less Than Zero.

I'll think more about it.
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Post by: sillyberry on April 29, 2007, 03:27:05 PM
I always loved the vapid narcissism of Story of My Life.  It scared the me day I realized I was now older than the protagonist.
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Post by: ResIpsa on April 29, 2007, 03:52:26 PM
who wrote that?

i'm in a very holden caulfield mood. sans the teenage, "mad at the world and my parents" angst. i'm about a decade in life past that little period, but you know, i'll be living and working in the NYC this summer - close to the village, actually, and dreading every day that brings me that much closer to the fall semester of the law (oooo-weeeee!), so i'm working on my edge.  in a literary, creative way, of course.

i also need reading material for the subway.  :P

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Post by: sillyberry on April 29, 2007, 03:58:59 PM
Story of My Life (http://www.amazon.com/Story-My-Life-Jay-Mcinerney/dp/0679722572/ref=ed_oe_p/104-8620065-5481530?ie=UTF8&qid=1177883736&sr=8-1)

This book is entirely about indiscriminate sex and massive amounts of blow.  Good times.
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Post by: ResIpsa on April 29, 2007, 04:02:44 PM
ah, and it's eligible for free super shipper savings.  i hate when amazon does that bc then i feel obligated to buy the 25 bucks in books. can't tell you how many times i've fallen prey to their ploy.

fine, so let's come up with the perfect free super shipper savings eligible amazon order.

starting with story of my life... 9.60

i would throw in leaves of grass - walt whitman.  i do love the man so. <3  that's 5.95

$15.55 - just $10 more to go.

who's next?



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Post by: paratactical on April 29, 2007, 04:08:14 PM
I'm reading a great translation of The Brothers Karamazov because my reader's guilt has finally become too unbearable to ignore the book any longer.

As far as buying off amazon.com, I sincerely recommend that everyone on the planet read Bruno Schultz's Street of Crocodiles.
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Post by: Sunshine Bound on April 30, 2007, 01:40:41 AM
has anyone read Adversarial Legalism by Robert Kagan?
my friend recommended it and I'd like some more reviews
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Post by: fuwaf on April 30, 2007, 06:09:31 PM
I recently finished A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius and I was not impressed.  Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who didn't like it.
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Post by: Sunshine Bound on April 30, 2007, 06:55:40 PM
I finished 2/3 of it, and some parts I liked (e.g,MTV interview), but others seem like just abundance of whining.(funny whining, though)
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Post by: dashrashi on April 30, 2007, 10:22:05 PM
Many, many, many people don't like it.

I am not one of them. Call me, Dave!

(I also read it at an "important" time--lots of stomach cancer/cremation issues in my close family in that two month period. Very weird.)
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Post by: Thistle on April 30, 2007, 10:25:38 PM
Story of My Life (http://www.amazon.com/Story-My-Life-Jay-Mcinerney/dp/0679722572/ref=ed_oe_p/104-8620065-5481530?ie=UTF8&qid=1177883736&sr=8-1)

This book is entirely about indiscriminate sex and massive amounts of blow.  Good times.


girl after my own heart
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Post by: Boyce Baylor on May 01, 2007, 06:48:03 AM
I'm reading And Then We Came To The End, a workplace novel written in the first person plural, like a hive-mind. I'm liking it immensely so far.
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Post by: paratactical on May 01, 2007, 12:55:58 PM
I recently finished A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius and I was not impressed.  Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who didn't like it.

I really didn't like it that much either, but everyone else really seems to. And I really like Dave Eggers the dude!

My friend actually got all upset with me for not liking it, because I guess she read it right after her Dad died and it was really important to her and stuff  :-\

Yeah, I think Eggers has a great life and good taste, but not the best writing.

I think David Foster Wallace does it better.
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Post by: GraphiteDirigible on May 01, 2007, 01:02:01 PM
I just read Indecision by Benjamin Kunkel. I would recommend it to anyone who wants to lose it laughing.
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Post by: beeker on May 01, 2007, 01:15:32 PM
I recently finished A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius and I was not impressed.  Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who didn't like it.

I really didn't like it that much either, but everyone else really seems to. And I really like Dave Eggers the dude!

My friend actually got all upset with me for not liking it, because I guess she read it right after her Dad died and it was really important to her and stuff  :-\

Yeah, I think Eggers has a great life and good taste, but not the best writing.

I think David Foster Wallace does it better.

I am a huge Eggers fan but I could see not liking a Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genious.  It's the same with his novel You Shall Know Our Velocity!  I think it's fabulous, but not everyone does. 

His short stories are the best, really.  "After I Was Thrown in the River and Before I Drowned" still affects me every time I read it...it's probably my favorite thing I've ever read.
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Post by: dashrashi on May 01, 2007, 05:57:04 PM
I liked Up the Mountain and Coming Down Slowly. Truly excellent.

And my name is Steven.
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Post by: beeker on May 01, 2007, 06:45:24 PM
I liked Up the Mountain and Coming Down Slowly. Truly excellent.

And my name is Steven.

The one with the dog?  Or is it a different one?  Because I am pretty sure After I Was Thrown In the river and before I Drowned was originally published under a different name, in slightly different form...so I think we like the same one.


When i was in italy a couple summers ago, I found a great Eggers book called Short Short Stories, which was only 3 Euro and about 70 pages, each story was about 2 pages long and just hilarious or moving.  If you read McSweeney's ever, the newest issue has most of these stories in it....there's one called "They Decide to have No More Death" that's great.

Rambling now, sorry...like I said, big Eggers fan
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Post by: dashrashi on May 01, 2007, 08:02:23 PM
Indeed, the one with the dog. The fast, fast dog.
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Post by: Miss P on May 01, 2007, 08:08:58 PM
Story of My Life (http://www.amazon.com/Story-My-Life-Jay-Mcinerney/dp/0679722572/ref=ed_oe_p/104-8620065-5481530?ie=UTF8&qid=1177883736&sr=8-1)

This book is entirely about indiscriminate sex and massive amounts of blow.  Good times.

For some reason, I really loved this book (with the original, classic 80's Vintage paperback cover, as pictured) when I was a kid.  I even wrote one of my TASP (http://www.tellurideassociation.org/TASP1.html) application essays about men writing in female voice based on my wonderment (and with frequent citations to McInerney's Allison).  Yeah, no, I didn't get a TASP.
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Post by: Team Pam on May 02, 2007, 01:26:41 AM
Story of My Life (http://www.amazon.com/Story-My-Life-Jay-Mcinerney/dp/0679722572/ref=ed_oe_p/104-8620065-5481530?ie=UTF8&qid=1177883736&sr=8-1)

This book is entirely about indiscriminate sex and massive amounts of blow.  Good times.

For some reason, I really loved this book (with the original, classic 80's Vintage paperback cover, as pictured) when I was a kid.  I even wrote one of my TASP (http://www.tellurideassociation.org/TASP1.html) application essays about men writing in female voice based on my wonderment (and with frequent citations to McInerney's Allison).  Yeah, no, I didn't get a TASP.

Me neither, even though I wanted to have dinner with C.S. Lewis and Carl Sagan so they could discuss religion and rational thought.  But one of my good friends did get in, and now 10+ years later, she still interviews kids for it and it seems like way too big a part of her life for something that happened so long ago.  Like CTY times 100.

/hijack
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Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on May 02, 2007, 05:02:20 AM
Me neither, even though I wanted to have dinner with C.S. Lewis and Carl Sagan so they could discuss religion and rational thought. 

Oh!  I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that one.  I had never even heard of TASP, but I did a quick persual of Miss P's link, and it looked like a great opportunity.  What, by the way, is CTY?

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Post by: Miss P on May 02, 2007, 09:39:34 AM
Me neither, even though I wanted to have dinner with C.S. Lewis and Carl Sagan so they could discuss religion and rational thought. 

Oh!  I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that one.  I had never even heard of TASP, but I did a quick persual of Miss P's link, and it looked like a great opportunity.  What, by the way, is CTY?

I think TASP is probably a mixed bag.  I'm glad they've opened up the process to allow for teacher nominations, which probably changes things quite a bit.  IIRC, invitations used to be based strictly on PSAT scores (I think National Merit Scholars and Semi-Finalists were invited), which seems wrong for a program so committed to class diversity (providing a summer stipend for kids to replace lost income is fairly impressive).  Still, I've always sensed a subtle conservative bent to most of the programming.  Who knows.  I applied to one with Jeff Nunokawa from Princeton, and I had no idea then how handsome he is.
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Post by: Miss P on May 02, 2007, 10:25:44 AM
it's east coast *&^%.

there's a ban on PNW folk.

Hey, P's not East Coast and she seems to be rocking the honor camps. I think it's we who are the problem.....

ETA: for grammar

 :D  I did mention that I was rejected, right?  AFAIK, no one from my high school, one of the "best" in the state and graduating about 500 kids per year, was ever accepted to a TASP.  No respect.  I was invited as part of a solicitation based on a standardized test score; the nomination criteria have changed now.

The only nerd camps I attended involved a certain nerd activity of which we will not speak here.
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Post by: ->Soon on May 02, 2007, 10:27:39 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/01/magazines/fortune/kurzweil.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2007050209


this guy has some interesting ideas.

makes sense too...
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Post by: Sunshine Bound on May 03, 2007, 12:13:25 AM
I just read Indecision by Benjamin Kunkel. I would recommend it to anyone who wants to lose it laughing.


ah..one of my favorites! good choice;)
if I remember correctly, A.O.Scott from NYTimes called him the new Eggers and I sort of agree. 
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Post by: bruin on May 07, 2007, 01:53:50 AM
Contracts casebook (Scott and Kraus).
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Post by: h2xblive on May 07, 2007, 07:11:25 AM
My law school's student handbook.
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Post by: beeker on May 07, 2007, 07:20:29 AM
Now reading:

I Can't Believe I'm Still Single by Eric Schaeffer

Raunchy at times, but funny and moving in strange ways.
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Post by: Edna St. Vincent Millay on May 10, 2007, 07:02:50 AM
the unthinkable thoughts of jacob green - joshua braff.
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Post by: bruin on May 10, 2007, 07:19:57 AM
Intl law outline
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Post by: Demigoddess on May 10, 2007, 10:57:42 AM
Started reading Lipstick Jungle by Candace Bushnell this morning on the T.

Lovin' it already!
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Post by: GloveDoesntFit on May 10, 2007, 04:03:36 PM
This thread  ;D
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Post by: fuwaf on May 10, 2007, 05:15:54 PM
Glannon Civil Procedure: Examples and Explanations

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!



P.S. Everyone starting law school should buy this book.
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Post by: dashrashi on May 10, 2007, 05:53:29 PM
What is the What - Dave Eggers. It is excellent! Just to redeem myself in the eyes of all the Eggers fans around here....

That made me rilly rilly rilly care about Africa over winter break. It's not easy being a dilettante, but someone's got to do it. 
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Post by: dashrashi on May 10, 2007, 07:22:02 PM
But I like actually totally committed! I saw Blood Diamond and STAYED AWAKE for the parts without Leo!
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Post by: bruin on May 10, 2007, 07:25:22 PM
Glannon Civil Procedure: Examples and Explanations

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!



P.S. Everyone starting law school should buy this book.

Seconded
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Post by: Hank Rearden on May 10, 2007, 08:13:22 PM
Bonfire of the Vanities

Lots of New York stuff so far...
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Post by: Ersatz on May 10, 2007, 08:38:33 PM
Loved Bonfire. It's almost bizarre to compare it to Charlotte Simmons. What the hell happened to Wolfe?
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Post by: Thistle on May 10, 2007, 08:45:51 PM
Glannon Civil Procedure: Examples and Explanations

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!



P.S. Everyone starting law school should buy this book.

's a good book.


anything that can explain erie in one paragraph is ok in my book
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Post by: beeker on May 11, 2007, 07:10:18 AM
Has anyone read anything by Russell Banks?  He's one of my favorite authors but I don't really know anyone else who has read his stuff
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Post by: Boyce Baylor on May 11, 2007, 07:49:29 AM
Loved Bonfire. It's almost bizarre to compare it to Charlotte Simmons. What the hell happened to Wolfe?

Have you read A Man in Full? Not so iconic as Bonfire, but very good, and much more contemporary ('98 I believe). I think it makes for an interesting analogy between Wolfe's novels and the Godfather movies.
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Post by: Pike#11 on May 11, 2007, 07:51:58 AM
Finishing up All the President's Men.  Great book if you're interested in recent American History.
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Post by: Ersatz on May 11, 2007, 09:35:24 AM
Loved Bonfire. It's almost bizarre to compare it to Charlotte Simmons. What the hell happened to Wolfe?

Have you read A Man in Full? Not so iconic as Bonfire, but very good, and much more contemporary ('98 I believe). I think it makes for an interesting analogy between Wolfe's novels and the Godfather movies.

I liked "A Man in Full," but it suffered from the same problems that made "My Name is Charlotte Simmons" garbage - it became so unrealistic and improbable at a certain point that it was like reading an O'Henry story. The difference between the two books, and the saving grace for Man in Full - I think - was that the unrealistic and the improbable did not really come until much later in the book. With Charlotte Simmons, it was there from page 1.

I never did get through The Right Stuff, though I can't remember why I stopped reading it.
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Post by: GraphiteDirigible on May 11, 2007, 11:41:30 AM
Loved Bonfire. It's almost bizarre to compare it to Charlotte Simmons. What the hell happened to Wolfe?

Have you read A Man in Full? Not so iconic as Bonfire, but very good, and much more contemporary ('98 I believe). I think it makes for an interesting analogy between Wolfe's novels and the Godfather movies.

I liked "A Man in Full," but it suffered from the same problems that made "My Name is Charlotte Simmons" garbage - it became so unrealistic and improbable at a certain point that it was like reading an O'Henry story. The difference between the two books, and the saving grace for Man in Full - I think - was that the unrealistic and the improbable did not really come until much later in the book. With Charlotte Simmons, it was there from page 1.

I never did get through The Right Stuff, though I can't remember why I stopped reading it.

Realistic? It was a huge parable using metaphors to get its point across. Sort of like Vonnegut, but not as over the top.
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Post by: GraphiteDirigible on May 11, 2007, 11:45:17 AM
I've posted it before and I'm posting it again, cause I'm such a fan. Everybody in here would love Indecision by Benjamin Kunkel. It's a funny and somewhat complex, but extremely well written, story about a 20 something guy trying to figure out why he can't seem to make up his mind an do something with his life.
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Post by: Ersatz on May 11, 2007, 11:56:49 AM
Loved Bonfire. It's almost bizarre to compare it to Charlotte Simmons. What the hell happened to Wolfe?

Have you read A Man in Full? Not so iconic as Bonfire, but very good, and much more contemporary ('98 I believe). I think it makes for an interesting analogy between Wolfe's novels and the Godfather movies.

I liked "A Man in Full," but it suffered from the same problems that made "My Name is Charlotte Simmons" garbage - it became so unrealistic and improbable at a certain point that it was like reading an O'Henry story. The difference between the two books, and the saving grace for Man in Full - I think - was that the unrealistic and the improbable did not really come until much later in the book. With Charlotte Simmons, it was there from page 1.

I never did get through The Right Stuff, though I can't remember why I stopped reading it.

Realistic? It was a huge parable using metaphors to get its point across. Sort of like Vonnegut, but not as over the top.

Realistic might not be the right word. I don't know - I love Vonnegut despite the "over the top" stuff, but I don't much care for Wolfe's writing when he tries to go that route. I think that with parables / metaphors, you either go all out like Vonnegut or you don't bother.
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Post by: GraphiteDirigible on May 11, 2007, 12:40:56 PM
I've posted it before and I'm posting it again, cause I'm such a fan. Everybody in here would love Indecision by Benjamin Kunkel. It's a funny and somewhat complex, but extremely well written, story about a 20 something guy trying to figure out why he can't seem to make up his mind an do something with his life.

I haven't read it, but I hear the end is disappointing. True story?

I don't know about the end being disappointing (I guess its not what you hope for). Like the rest of the book though, it is what it is (a theme explored alot) and I think it makes sense if you look at the whole storyline. The best part about it though is the narrative throughout, the trip rather than the destination. I was laughing to the point of tears.

 
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Post by: GraphiteDirigible on May 11, 2007, 12:46:04 PM
Loved Bonfire. It's almost bizarre to compare it to Charlotte Simmons. What the hell happened to Wolfe?

Have you read A Man in Full? Not so iconic as Bonfire, but very good, and much more contemporary ('98 I believe). I think it makes for an interesting analogy between Wolfe's novels and the Godfather movies.

I liked "A Man in Full," but it suffered from the same problems that made "My Name is Charlotte Simmons" garbage - it became so unrealistic and improbable at a certain point that it was like reading an O'Henry story. The difference between the two books, and the saving grace for Man in Full - I think - was that the unrealistic and the improbable did not really come until much later in the book. With Charlotte Simmons, it was there from page 1.

I never did get through The Right Stuff, though I can't remember why I stopped reading it.

Realistic? It was a huge parable using metaphors to get its point across. Sort of like Vonnegut, but not as over the top.

Realistic might not be the right word. I don't know - I love Vonnegut despite the "over the top" stuff, but I don't much care for Wolfe's writing when he tries to go that route. I think that with parables / metaphors, you either go all out like Vonnegut or you don't bother.

I would agree. He sort of half asses the metaphors. Like the character (I forgot his name) with the huge forearms. Kind of a half-assed metaphor for the nose-to-the-grindstone-tragic-misfit.

I do think its a good book about (I know I'm going to sound like... something... but) what it means to be a man. Courage or strength? Values or drive? And when I read it it was very relevant to where I was in my life. So, I think I sort of forgave the half-assedness of the symbolism.

Anyway... I do love Vonnegut "over-the-top" ways.
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Post by: Sunshine Bound on May 12, 2007, 09:00:56 AM
I've posted it before and I'm posting it again, cause I'm such a fan. Everybody in here would love Indecision by Benjamin Kunkel. It's a funny and somewhat complex, but extremely well written, story about a 20 something guy trying to figure out why he can't seem to make up his mind an do something with his life.

I haven't read it, but I hear the end is disappointing. True story?


I felt the second half (trip to the jungle part to be specific) was more quirky and strange than the rest, but it is by no means terrible. it has its own charm I think. If you like Eggers, Vonnegut, etc., I think you'll like it. it's like a contemporary version of Catcher in the Rye except the main character is a bit older than Holden.
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Post by: lovethelaw2010 on May 12, 2007, 10:15:13 AM
Learning Legal Reasoning by Delaney
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Post by: bruin on May 12, 2007, 10:55:45 AM
right now, nothing
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Post by: Miss P on May 12, 2007, 12:22:59 PM
What is the What - Dave Eggers. It is excellent! Just to redeem myself in the eyes of all the Eggers fans around here....

I almost bought this for myself yesterday, but I decided to get a present for [someone else] instead.
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Post by: Miss P on May 12, 2007, 12:27:02 PM
Has anyone read anything by Russell Banks?  He's one of my favorite authors but I don't really know anyone else who has read his stuff

I loved The Sweet Hereafter, liked Cloudsplitter, and tolerated Affliction (though I found it somewhat maudlin).  I did not like Rule of the Bone.  Can you see any rhyme or reason here that could help you recommend one of his other books?
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Post by: Miss P on May 12, 2007, 12:29:38 PM
Something like that.  :D
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Post by: Miss P on May 12, 2007, 12:35:12 PM
:D :D :D

<--needs books to read for vacay. Taking suggestions

Read Pat Barker's Regeneration trilogy.  I cannot recommend these books enough.
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Post by: Soft Factors on May 12, 2007, 12:37:29 PM
THE ROAD by Cormac McCarthy

The most important book of this generation
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Post by: Brito on May 12, 2007, 01:35:59 PM
Terror of the Spanish Main:  Sir Henry Morgan and His Buccanneers, by Albert Marrin.
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Post by: Ersatz on May 12, 2007, 01:42:51 PM
Master and Margarita by Bulgakov, again. An amazing book.
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Post by: beeker on May 12, 2007, 02:59:06 PM
Has anyone read anything by Russell Banks?  He's one of my favorite authors but I don't really know anyone else who has read his stuff

I loved The Sweet Hereafter, liked Cloudsplitter, and tolerated Affliction (though I found it somewhat maudlin).  I did not like Rule of the Bone.  Can you see any rhyme or reason here that could help you recommend one of his other books?

I also loved the Sweet Hereafter...Since you loved it, too, I would try Continental Drift...I think you'd like it.  I'd say it's my second fave by him.

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Post by: stjobs on May 12, 2007, 05:11:10 PM
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich
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Post by: Sunshine Bound on May 12, 2007, 05:14:07 PM
Complete Short Stories by Oscar Wilde
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Post by: Miss P on May 12, 2007, 05:32:54 PM
I also loved the Sweet Hereafter...Since you loved it, too, I would try Continental Drift...I think you'd like it.  I'd say it's my second fave by him.



Thanks, beeker, I'll put it on my library list! :)
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Post by: obamacon on May 12, 2007, 06:37:39 PM
The Oxford English Dictionary, second edition.
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Post by: H4CS on May 12, 2007, 06:41:40 PM
The Oxford English Dictionary, second edition.

Where are you working this summer, btw?
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Post by: obamacon on May 12, 2007, 06:49:43 PM
Where are you working this summer, btw?

The White House, Regent has a great relationship with them.
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Post by: luke on January 03, 2008, 12:00:54 PM
Read Pat Barker's Regeneration trilogy.  I cannot recommend these books enough.

good books though Regeneration is the best of them.  Blow Your House Down is even better than any one of the trilogy, imo.
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Post by: goaliechica on January 03, 2008, 12:02:17 PM
Angle of Repose by Wallace Stegner. Great Western book.
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Post by: Miss P on January 03, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
Read Pat Barker's Regeneration trilogy.  I cannot recommend these books enough.

good books though Regeneration is the best of them.  Blow Your House Down is even better than any one of the trilogy, imo.

I like Regeneration best of all her novels, but BYHD is my second favorite.  Have you read the new one?  
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Post by: luke on January 03, 2008, 12:08:07 PM
Have you read the new one? 

not yet, but i plan to
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Post by: Boyce Baylor on January 03, 2008, 12:08:48 PM
Re-reading The Three Musketeers (not in the original French, gunners, settle down) and it's even more fun than I remember it.
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Post by: goaliechica on January 03, 2008, 12:11:09 PM
It was recommended by a friend who said he doesn't like "women writers."  For serious.  To me.  When I blinked at him,  he muttered and blushed and hid in his beer.

 :D :D

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Post by: mertmengelmier on January 03, 2008, 12:11:44 PM
An Arsonists Guide to New England Writer's Homes...great, bizarre.  Very Confederacy.

Also, read The Nine by Jeffrey Toobin over break.  Great, weird law book for this great, weird law crowd.
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Post by: siski on January 03, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson -- alternative history where 99% of Europe is wiped out during the black plague, and China and the Middle East become the dominant world players, with Islam and Buddhism as the dominant world religions. Christianity is a footnote, a cult, and Native Americans still dominate the Americas. It's pretty damn interesting and exhaustively researched.
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Post by: Miss P on January 03, 2008, 12:13:23 PM
It was recommended by a friend who said he doesn't like "women writers."  For serious.  To me.  When I blinked at him,  he muttered and blushed and hid in his beer.

Please tell me this wasn't my new friend iconoclasttt.
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Post by: goaliechica on January 03, 2008, 12:15:22 PM
Also, read The Nine by Jeffrey Toobin over break.  Great, weird law book for this great, weird law crowd.

Me too! My step-mom informed me that Toobin is trashy, but I enjoyed it.
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Post by: Miss P on January 03, 2008, 12:49:39 PM
(But it was somebody you've met: my former-Brooklynite friend, who has moved back to Chicago.  I forgot what a dolt he can be.)

Oh, I knew what a dolt he was based on that one story you told me. :D

***

I enjoyed The Nine, but I can't for the life of me understand why Toobin fawned over O'Connor so much.  I would have appreciated more Souter and Thomas anecdotes, and a bit of additional fashion commentary.
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Post by: Freak on January 03, 2008, 12:56:28 PM
Re-reading The Three Musketeers (not in the original French, gunners, settle down) and it's even more fun than I remember it.

I actually read that 2 months ago after picking it up at a garage sale for 25 cents - decent read.

Now I'm reading Charles Dickens' David Copperfield for the 2nd or 3rd time in my life. I enjoy it & Oliver Twistimmensely for some reason (means I'm to lazy to articulate the reasons right now).
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Post by: luke on February 08, 2008, 02:52:31 PM
Peter Carey, His Illegal Self
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Post by: Julie Fern on February 08, 2008, 04:49:23 PM
oops, by i.p.freely.
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Post by: Billy Mays here FOREVER! on February 08, 2008, 05:56:22 PM
Should I be worried that I bought von Calusewitz's On War to read for pleasure? If that's not bad enough, I just finished the memoirs of Gen. Heinz Guderian, Panzer Leader
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Post by: . . . . . . on February 08, 2008, 05:56:37 PM
This garbage ass thread
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Post by: IamAnXman on February 08, 2008, 07:53:04 PM
^ LOL.

i've been re-reading several works by aristotle, nietzsche, rawls, kristeva, and one of my favorites- cixous.

as you can tell, i span the philosophical and political realm quite vastly. but i often times can't help it.
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Post by: IamAnXman on February 08, 2008, 09:09:37 PM
^ there is absolutely nothing more boring than anything that has to do with the american civil war, saxby. i hope you weren't miserable during the first half of that book, though you likely were.
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Post by: UnbiasedObserver on February 09, 2008, 08:51:44 AM
Currently, I'm reading "Dreams From My Father" by Obama.  It's interesting; he's lived quite a life. 
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Post by: t... on February 09, 2008, 12:37:22 PM
Rereading Walden, interesting enough.

(Or not)
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Post by: just ducky on February 09, 2008, 12:59:09 PM
I just finished reading The Nine, Jeffrey Toobin's new book about SCOTUS.

It was a really fun read. It was recommended to me by my stepfather-in-law who is a federal judge, and he enjoyed it too.  It is meant for a lay audience, but I think it could be enjoyed by lots of different people.
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Post by: luke on February 09, 2008, 01:03:38 PM
I just finished reading The Nine, Jeffrey Toobin's new book about SCOTUS.

i read a book titled Closed Chambers a while back.  it was a pretty fun read -- gossipy, interesting, etc. 
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Post by: Boyce Baylor on February 10, 2008, 05:57:18 PM
Cosmopolis I'm not loving it, which is a shame because I generally love Delilo
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Post by: Dr. Rose on February 10, 2008, 06:00:26 PM
An Inconvenient Book
Glen Beck

HILARIOUS!
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Post by: IamAnXman on February 10, 2008, 09:31:03 PM
^ if you like that, you might like al gore's latest book- an inconvenient truth
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Post by: IamAnXman on February 10, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
^ is there any other LSDer as horny as trouble? one sight of a female self-tar and he's all over that.
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Post by: h2xblive on February 12, 2008, 01:05:59 PM
^ is there any other LSDer as horny as trouble? one sight of a female self-tar and he's all over that.

You don't want to know.
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Post by: Miss P on February 12, 2008, 01:08:26 PM
^ is there any other LSDer as horny as trouble? one sight of a female self-tar and he's all over that.

You don't want to know.

Hey, I thought that was just between us, Vf.!
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Post by: greenlimousine on February 12, 2008, 05:29:26 PM
The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins
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Post by: Miss P on February 12, 2008, 06:53:36 PM
Wings of a Dove by Henry James.

I'm working on my tolerance for long, meandering sentences that wrap around and bite you in the ass.

This must be why you've pursued our friendship all this time.

***

I'm about to start The Eight O'Clock Ferry to the Windward Side: Seeking Justice in Guantanamo Bay by Clive Stafford Smith.
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Post by: goaliechica on February 12, 2008, 06:59:14 PM
Wings of a Dove by Henry James.

I'm working on my tolerance for long, meandering sentences that wrap around and bite you in the ass.

This must be why you've pursued our friendship all this time.


 :D
 
About to start The Bostonians! (for a class).

archival and I are in sync!

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Post by: Miss P on February 12, 2008, 07:11:58 PM
About to start The Bostonians! (for a class).

archival and I are in sync!

I want to read good books for class.  ::pouts::
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Post by: Miss P on February 12, 2008, 07:45:29 PM
Y'all are making me jealous.  I so look forward to the day when I can read for sheer pleasure again.   :'(

I'd honestly settle for incidental pleasure.  Or opaque pleasure.
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Post by: Lotus12 on February 12, 2008, 08:02:15 PM
I'm assuming the 10.6% of people who responded "Don't like to read" for this survey don't actually intend to go to law school. Perhaps I'm a peon, but I have heard a few stories over the years that law school involves books. Incredibly engaging ones, at that.

That being said, King Henry, The Odyssey, and the bit of The Sun Also Rises set on the Left Bank.
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Post by: philibusters on February 12, 2008, 11:15:50 PM
I'm assuming the 10.6% of people who responded "Don't like to read" for this survey don't actually intend to go to law school. Perhaps I'm a peon, but I have heard a few stories over the years that law school involves books. Incredibly engaging ones, at that.

That being said, King Henry, The Odyssey, and the bit of The Sun Also Rises set on the Left Bank.

Perhaps interesting at best, "incredibly engaging"...I can't tell if you were serious or not, but thats is completely wrong.  Often learning the law makes me stop and think, and I am glad I thought about things, but that doesn't mean I was engrossed in the book like I am when I read a good novel.
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Post by: luke on February 13, 2008, 07:23:10 AM
law school involves books. Incredibly engaging ones, at that.

heh
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Post by: jcheste8 on February 13, 2008, 07:47:42 AM
The new Grisham book "The Appeal" is pretty good
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Post by: Dr. Rose on February 13, 2008, 02:59:08 PM
An Inconvenient Book
Glen Beck

HILARIOUS!

that's not you in the tar is it? 

for some reason i assumed you were a guy.

It's me, when the Saints were playing! That's a Drew Brees jersey.
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Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on February 13, 2008, 05:02:14 PM
Y'all are making me jealous.  I so look forward to the day when I can read for sheer pleasure again.   :'(

I'd honestly settle for incidental pleasure.  Or opaque pleasure.

Lol!  Me too, Miss P!
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Post by: goaliechica on February 15, 2008, 04:57:35 PM
Revolutionary Road, Richard Yates.
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Post by: IamAnXman on February 15, 2008, 05:00:54 PM
^ that sounds interesting, i think Carey Gibbons mentioned that book in his writings, Codifying a Nation
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Post by: Freak on February 27, 2008, 11:56:32 AM
A 2.5" stack of medical records.  :-\
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Post by: luke on April 07, 2008, 02:47:55 PM
Human Smoke (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/books/review/Toibin-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin), Nicholson Baker.

it's a laugh a page and interesting too. 
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Post by: Billy Mays here FOREVER! on April 07, 2008, 03:41:49 PM
Rereading the orginal Sword of Shannara series by Terry Brooks
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Post by: just some guy on April 07, 2008, 03:44:34 PM
Matter, Iain M. Banks
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Post by: UnbiasedObserver on April 07, 2008, 10:18:17 PM
A Civil Action, by Jonathan Harr.  I just finished it.  I enjoyed it immensely.

Now I'm reading Never Again by John Ashcroft.  I"m curious to see his take on the world...
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Post by: jer on April 18, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
crunchtime for torts
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Post by: goaliechica on April 18, 2008, 04:01:14 PM
The Professor's House by Willa Cather
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Post by: pikey on April 23, 2008, 07:46:36 PM
Chemerinsky
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Post by: skeeball on April 23, 2008, 07:54:24 PM
The most horribly edited Contracts casebook in print. The index does not mention the parole evidence rule. WTF?
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Post by: UnbiasedObserver on April 23, 2008, 09:46:48 PM
"No Future Without Forgiveness" by Desmond Tutu. 
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Post by: just some guy on April 24, 2008, 06:50:53 AM
The Principles of Mathematics, Bertrand Russell
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Post by: Maddie on April 24, 2008, 09:06:53 AM
Gossip Girl.

Don't knock it til you've tried it; it's way better than the TV show.    ;)
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Post by: Lobstah! on April 24, 2008, 09:30:13 AM
King of Torts

It's taught me that even if all your plans fall through and you have to become a sleazeball mass tort litigator or an ambulance chaser, at least you can hide from everyone in your own private jet.
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Post by: washdc23 on April 24, 2008, 10:08:42 AM
Just finished Alan Dershowitz' "Letters to a Young Lawyer." Pretty good. Pretty, pretty, pretty good.
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Post by: goaliechica on April 24, 2008, 10:26:48 AM
Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell, Susanna Clarke. I needed a comfort re-read heading into finals here.
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Post by: t... on April 24, 2008, 10:46:14 AM
I haven't been able to read much lately, but I just ordered this:

http://www.progressio.org.uk/independentwomen/AssociatesInternal/92050/about_the_book/ (http://www.progressio.org.uk/independentwomen/AssociatesInternal/92050/about_the_book/)

"Independent women tells the story of how East Timorese women activists mobilised against a patriarchal society and claimed their right to participate in their new independent and democratic nation.

Drawing on personal research and extensive interviews with women activists in East Timor, the authors explore the history and contribution of the East Timorese women's movement during and after the Indonesian occupation. They examine the growing influence of the women's movement as the country moved into independence, and analyse the key challenges facing East Timorese women in their ongoing quest for rights and greater political participation.

The book includes comparative chapters by expert guest authors on the lessons to be drawn from women's experiences in Cambodia, Mozambique and Namibia - countries which have also experienced the transition from an extended period of conflict to eventual independence.

Independent women dispels the myth that women working for women's advancement in East Timor are agents of a foreign or western agenda. It shows that the women of East Timor are women of courage who, on the long road to independence, have found the strength to stand up for their rights and play their part in the shaping of their country.

'Independent women is a profound testimony to the unique character of East Timorese women and to their resolve and courage in the long process of struggle for the liberation of their country and now their own liberation' - Olandina Caeiro"

I'm excited for it.
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Post by: goaliechica on April 24, 2008, 08:59:53 PM
Independent women

Rad!
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Post by: ExpLo on April 25, 2008, 10:19:24 AM
Willie Brown - My Life & Our Times
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Post by: Miss P on May 05, 2008, 08:56:40 PM
What Is the What (http://www.valentinoachakdeng.org/preface.php)
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Post by: archival on May 05, 2008, 09:15:50 PM
What Is the What (http://www.valentinoachakdeng.org/preface.php)

Ack!  I bought it and read about 50 pages and could not continue.  Not right now.

I like the writing, though.
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Post by: Miss P on May 05, 2008, 09:28:59 PM
What Is the What (http://www.valentinoachakdeng.org/preface.php)

Ack!  I bought it and read about 50 pages and could not continue.  Not right now.

I like the writing, though.

I understand.  I just went through kind of a rough patch, but I appreciate the humor laced throughout. I'm impressed that Eggers was able to let his (usual) voice go.  And it's absorbing, which is what I need right now. 
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Post by: Miss P on May 05, 2008, 09:37:36 PM
Wellspring by Sharon Olds.  Quite frankly, it's a vivid sexual poetry book, but I think that most of her work is required reading for contemporary poets.  She has an imagist way which makes you say, every dozen lines or so, "Damn, I need to read that line again.  That was amazing."

I had a high school teacher who liked to shock each fresh class of sophomores with a reading of "The Pope's Penis" on the first day.
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Post by: goaliechica on May 05, 2008, 10:32:44 PM
What Is the What (http://www.valentinoachakdeng.org/preface.php)

Ack!  I bought it and read about 50 pages and could not continue.  Not right now.

I like the writing, though.

I understand.  I just went through kind of a rough patch, but I appreciate the humor laced throughout. I'm impressed that Eggers was able to let his (usual) voice go.  And it's absorbing, which is what I need right now. 

Oh! I liked it, mostly, and I don't usually like Eggers. Let me know what you think!
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Post by: t... on May 05, 2008, 10:33:40 PM
What Is the What (http://www.valentinoachakdeng.org/preface.php)

Ack!  I bought it and read about 50 pages and could not continue.  Not right now.

I like the writing, though.

I understand.  I just went through kind of a rough patch, but I appreciate the humor laced throughout. I'm impressed that Eggers was able to let his (usual) voice go.  And it's absorbing, which is what I need right now. 

Oh! I liked it, mostly, and I don't usually like Eggers. Let me know what you think!

Blasphemer!

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Post by: goaliechica on May 05, 2008, 10:37:37 PM
What Is the What (http://www.valentinoachakdeng.org/preface.php)

Ack!  I bought it and read about 50 pages and could not continue.  Not right now.

I like the writing, though.

I understand.  I just went through kind of a rough patch, but I appreciate the humor laced throughout. I'm impressed that Eggers was able to let his (usual) voice go.  And it's absorbing, which is what I need right now. 

Oh! I liked it, mostly, and I don't usually like Eggers. Let me know what you think!

Blasphemer!



Sigh.

What would you like to inform me that I'm wrong about now? Not usually liking Eggers?

He's very nice in real life.
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Post by: Gengiswump on May 05, 2008, 11:27:26 PM
The Givenchy Code.

Yeah, that's right, I said it.  And I'm enjoying it, to boot.

:::owns it:::
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Post by: Thistle on May 06, 2008, 05:28:17 PM
The Givenchy Code.

Yeah, that's right, I said it.  And I'm enjoying it, to boot.

:::owns it:::


ooooh, ysatis givenchy is my fav scent ever!

other than that, i'm ignoring business associations right now, and loving it
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Post by: ShadWhitmore on May 06, 2008, 10:17:47 PM

It's like reading Ulysses for the first time and realizing that it's not "literature" in the way you would expect.

You're not joking! I just finished Ulysses, and it about killed me. I wish I could say I enjoyed it... I quickly read The Old Man and the Sea to flush the stream of consciousness out of my system. And I'm now reading McCullough's 1776. I highly recommend both it and John Adams.
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Post by: luke on June 16, 2009, 06:40:46 PM
Netherland by Joseph O'Neill.

Addictive.
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Post by: goaliechica on June 26, 2009, 11:56:54 AM
Other Voices, Other Rooms by Truman Capote.

It's pretty psychedelic.

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Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on November 08, 2009, 09:28:25 PM
Let's bring this thread back to life!  I've been obsessively reading the Warriors series - I know ... it's a series for 8-14 year olds, but it's really entertaining :D  I love animal fantasy/fiction, so yay!  If you like Watership Down, Redwall, or Tailchaser's Song ... then I highly recommend Erin Hunter's Warriors and Seekers series.  READ THEM!  Also, light, young adult fiction is perfect for the harried law student  :D
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Post by: mccarthy on November 09, 2009, 09:21:09 AM
The Blank Slate: the modern denial of human nature by Steven Pinker. Excellent non-fiction reading with plenty of scientific analysis and witty humor.
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Post by: luke on November 09, 2009, 12:23:13 PM
The Blank Slate: the modern denial of human nature by Steven Pinker. Excellent non-fiction reading with plenty of scientific analysis and witty humor.

<-- noticing a trend in the literature you enjoy
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Post by: mccarthy on November 09, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
What trend is that?
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Post by: madilyn.brannen on November 09, 2009, 09:44:21 PM
I love reading and even though I have a hectic schedule I always find time to read even a couple of chapters or so. :)


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Post by: HiteMikju on November 10, 2009, 05:45:20 AM
The Law of Torts: Examples & Explanations, 3rd edition.  I'm reading all the E&E's (and fully outlining them) over this year before I start next fall.  Once I finish that I'm moving on to Hornbooks.  Watch out!
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Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on November 10, 2009, 10:33:34 AM
Wow, you guys sure read boring stuff. :D
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Post by: luke on November 10, 2009, 11:24:35 AM
What trend is that?

psychometric bukkake.
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Post by: mccarthy on November 10, 2009, 01:42:28 PM
What trend is that?

psychometric bukkake.

To each his own as they say. However, it is too bad that books that make empirical claims grounded in scientific methodology and statistical probabilities are seen as "bukkake." I would even wager that you haven't read either.
Of course, this isn't the place for a flame war, so I will just add that I enjoy all kinds of books whether they be nonfiction or fiction. Do you have any good suggestions, luke?
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 11, 2009, 06:11:21 AM
what mean, not place flame war?

a-hole.
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Post by: luke on November 11, 2009, 12:09:37 PM
To each his own as they say. However, it is too bad that books that make empirical claims grounded in scientific methodology and statistical probabilities are seen as "bukkake." I would even wager that you haven't read either.

They're not grounded in scientific methodology however broadly you're using the word 'grounded'. Sometimes, as in Pinker's case, certainly, scientists write popular books just to take the piss. Except they're not taking and its not piss.

Do you have any good suggestions, luke?

I do -- Wolf Hall (http://www.amazon.com/Wolf-Hall-Novel-Hilary-Mantel/dp/0805080686). Terrific book, even better than the hype suggests it is.
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 11, 2009, 07:26:13 PM
bring it on, bastards!
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Post by: mccarthy on November 12, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
They're not grounded in scientific methodology however broadly you're using the word 'grounded'. Sometimes, as in Pinker's case, certainly, scientists write popular books just to take the piss. Except they're not taking and its not piss.

We will have to agree to disagree about this. The application of the scientific method is fairly cut-and-dried, and the furor around these books nearly always came from political and social spheres. The science itself was rarely attacked because the attackers didn't want to legitimate it by having an open discourse about it (though both books have a fair amount of pontificating that is obviously moralistic/ philosophic and lacks scientific proof.) I will say that this thread asked what we were reading now, which is why I mentioned Pinker's book. I agree with the basic concepts of these books but not with all the arguments in them, of course. However, they aren't my books to defend. Anyway, I haven't heard of Hilary Mantel. Perhaps I'll check that out sometime. What I really like is good southern fiction, contemporary and classic: Shelby Foote, Tom Franklin, Barry Hannah, and Faulkner, of course. Fiction prompts in me a response wholly unlike that prompted by nonfiction, and, as such, it will always be closest to my heart. Awe...
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 12, 2009, 05:04:14 PM
faulkner.  hah.  putz!
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Post by: mccarthy on November 12, 2009, 05:29:22 PM
faulkner.  hah.  putz!
So, aside from what reading the links on the daily kos website provide, what are you reading?
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Post by: luke on November 12, 2009, 06:13:15 PM
good southern fiction, contemporary and classic: Shelby Foote, Tom Franklin, Barry Hannah, and Faulkner, of course.

+ flannery o'connor + walker percy?
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Post by: treefity350 on November 12, 2009, 06:14:55 PM
Gödel, Escher, Bach
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Post by: mccarthy on November 12, 2009, 06:21:43 PM
good southern fiction, contemporary and classic: Shelby Foote, Tom Franklin, Barry Hannah, and Faulkner, of course.

+ flannery o'connor + walker percy?

You know it. O' Connor is in a class of her own, I think.
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 12, 2009, 07:18:08 PM
faulkner. hah. putz!
So, aside from what reading the links on the daily kos website provide, what are you reading?

julie reading your flame, that what.

this supposed be flame war.

ok then, david sidaris.  but not tell anyone.

and faulkner still putz.
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Post by: mccarthy on November 12, 2009, 08:01:54 PM
Some Faulkner is embarassingly bad, and some of his writing is terribly labored and reeks of whiskey, but when he did it right, he really did it right.
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 13, 2009, 06:19:02 AM
actually, julie like faulkner.  julie just want provoke southerner who want defend literacy of south.  certainly no one can defend its women.
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Post by: Sheshe on November 13, 2009, 10:14:06 AM
I wish I had time to read for my own enjoyment! Right now all the LSAT prep I can get my hands on, and whatever pointless readings required for my current courses  :-[
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 13, 2009, 11:10:59 AM
faulkner bomb lsat.
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Post by: Pardon Johnny Cash. on November 13, 2009, 11:28:24 AM
faulkner bomb lsat.

Though I heard he had a fairly good yet wordy writing sample.
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Post by: luke on November 13, 2009, 12:30:13 PM

You know it. O' Connor is in a class of her own, I think.

you're a fine american.

i'll revisit your points on bell curve etc -- most likely in another thread
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Post by: mccarthy on November 13, 2009, 05:02:01 PM
actually, julie like faulkner.  julie just want provoke southerner who want defend literacy of south.  certainly no one can defend its women.

Having slept with some of them, I most certainly can!
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Post by: mccarthy on November 13, 2009, 08:11:46 PM
...She could plan the trip with that amoral boldness, that affinity for brigandage of women, but more likely, or so I would like to think, by some subterfuge of such bald and desperate transparence concocted by innocence that its very simplicity would fool her into thinking she had chosen correctly. Yet she should choose the cruiseliner, indefatigably nosing not gliding through the antediluvian currents of the dark-watered sea whose undulations roll and roll into themselves again by movements recursive and impassive like the images of her echoing mind...
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 14, 2009, 05:58:52 AM
actually, julie like faulkner. julie just want provoke southerner who want defend literacy of south. certainly no one can defend its women.

Having slept with some of them, I most certainly can!

how much you pay them?
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Post by: archival on January 23, 2010, 08:17:34 PM

I do -- Wolf Hall (http://www.amazon.com/Wolf-Hall-Novel-Hilary-Mantel/dp/0805080686). Terrific book, even better than the hype suggests it is.

The best book in the whole of Christendom!  Or something.

Audio version is quite good, btw.
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Post by: cutecub00 on January 29, 2010, 01:53:06 AM
I am one of the book lover.. Currently i am reading the book is Wings of fire...written by APJ abdhul kalam..i like the book very much..
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Post by: markcasias on February 12, 2010, 04:08:07 AM
So as here.... i am currently reading the Twilight by Stephenie Meyer....  ;D

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Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on February 12, 2010, 09:09:35 AM
I'm currently reading The Lovely bones :)
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Post by: Haynes7 on April 29, 2010, 02:26:09 AM
Lovely Bones reminds me of watching someone pick a zit.  I don't want to watch but some how I just can't stop.
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Post by: the white rabbit on April 29, 2010, 03:48:45 AM
Lovely Bones reminds me of watching someone pick a zit.  I don't want to watch but some how I just can't stop.

I've never felt compelled to watch someone pick a zit.

I don't read anymore.  This must change.