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Title: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: divo72 on December 13, 2005, 08:18:07 PM
I leave tomorrow for Nigeria for two weeks  - wish me luck!



Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: One Step Ahead on December 14, 2005, 06:41:02 AM
I leave tomorrow for Nigeria for two weeks  - wish me luck!





wait a second, what law school do you go to?

edit: nevermind I thought you were someone else
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on December 14, 2005, 10:33:40 AM
I leave tomorrow for Nigeria for two weeks  - wish me luck!





Present.


have a nice time
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on December 22, 2005, 06:24:44 AM
Present
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: justGem on December 22, 2005, 06:51:51 AM
My stepfather is Nigerian and I eat FuFu.  Does that count? Wait, I can make Eguse soup too, now am I in?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on December 22, 2005, 07:06:41 AM
My stepfather is Nigerian and I eat FuFu.  Does that count? Wait, I can make Eguse soup too, now am I in?

Is Egusi ....you can send in your application.....including 2 page double spaced personal statement....diversity statement will be optional, but strongly recommended... lol
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: justGem on December 22, 2005, 07:08:17 AM
My stepfather is Nigerian and I eat FuFu.  Does that count? Wait, I can make Eguse soup too, now am I in?

Is Egusi ....you can send in your application.....including 2 page double spaced personal statement....diversity statement will be optional, but strongly recommended... lol

If I pound yams like a 178 LSAT do I get in?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on December 22, 2005, 07:11:07 AM

If I pound yams like a 178 LSAT do I get in?

like a 178 lsat .....all other requirements are now optional.....you pick the date of your full initiation.....
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: justGem on December 22, 2005, 07:13:26 AM

If I pound yams like a 178 LSAT do I get in?

like a 178 lsat .....all other requirements are now optional.....you pick the date of your full initiation.....

Yesss.  I be naija today o
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Terabithia on January 02, 2006, 05:56:42 PM
Grandfather traced his roots back to the yoruba tribe in Nigeria, so I guess you can call be Nigerian, or part. lol
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on January 02, 2006, 08:41:49 PM
That's alright, we ALL go back to African roots of you count far enough.  Lots of Naija's in the house!  Good stuff. ;D
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on February 01, 2006, 11:21:20 AM
Ekaro, Eka san, Eku irole, Eka ale, Eku odun, Eku Iyedun, Emi A sope...tell me when to stop  ;D
....Kedu Ka imee....
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: jnc18 on February 01, 2006, 12:48:27 PM
Let me ask you guys, what is it that about Nigerians that enables them to hold it down so nasty academically/intellectually?

And more importantly is there anything that can be done to instill it in the rest of black America?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on February 01, 2006, 12:57:47 PM
upbringing

that's as simple as I can put it, the culture of the parenting of nigerians is just different from the general upbringing of most black americans.  I learned at a young age the meaning of the word deference.  Don't get me wrong, black folk most definitely bring it home when it comes to discipline but its a different type of discipline for us.  Rather, its an expectation.  It is expected that you will excell at school, whereas I don't think that black folk stress that enough today.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on February 01, 2006, 01:01:34 PM
Let me ask you guys, what is it that about Nigerians that enables them to hold it down so nasty academically/intellectually?

And more importantly is there anything that can be done to instill it in the rest of black America?

Holy Crap!!! I don't know if I can answer that. I will assume that you asked the question honeslty without implying 2 things (1) stereotype that Nigerians are generally academically outstanding and (2) Black Americans aren't..I can't paint anything with a big brush. Maybe its  (1) economical factors (i.e. it was bad in Nigeria, its good here lets make the best of it) (2) Nigerians don't have the imprint of residual effect of slavery and systemic discrimination that Black America has endured and (3) Nigerians can always hop back across the atlantic home and don't feel they are long term stakeholders in America. Its a conflunce of things but from personal experience I can tell you of tons of Nigerians I know/ have heard of that aren't academically superior or even care about making a positive contribution and tons of Black Americans I know that are so far on top that I can't see them anymore. I really can't say but certainly there is no stereotypical Nigerian genuius!!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: jnc18 on February 01, 2006, 01:27:17 PM
BTW, try not to take my question too seriously. 
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on February 01, 2006, 01:38:42 PM
BTW, try not to take my question too seriously. 

I know what you mean (cos I've heard it tons of times). But I just wanted to make sure I responded in a way that someone else wouldn't take offense at the assumption that somehow Black Americans lack some kind of drive (trust me I once answered with that assumption and the response was pretty strong!!! >:()
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Victor on February 01, 2006, 01:54:05 PM
Hey Sands who are those lovely people in your avatar?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on February 01, 2006, 04:16:22 PM
Sten - LOL, yeah man just when you least expect it. ;)  Wsup nwoke?  (or waghi)

Vic - those are my sisters
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: akattorney on February 01, 2006, 04:39:17 PM
Let me ask you guys, what is it that about Nigerians that enables them to hold it down so nasty academically/intellectually?

And more importantly is there anything that can be done to instill it in the rest of black America?

Brain Drain.......btw, I'm checking in as a Nigerian
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on February 03, 2006, 10:33:15 AM
Naija here.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on February 03, 2006, 10:40:09 AM
Naija here.
Welcome aboard Petit
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on February 03, 2006, 10:55:56 AM
Naija here.
Welcome aboard Petit
Thank you ;) What part/tribe are you from?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on February 03, 2006, 01:58:47 PM
So who's going to wager that Naija's will be flocking to Law school enmass in 10yrs since they have pretty much lost the AA track in B-School and Med School. We just don't stay in one place no? Makes one wonder who the real colonialists are

Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on February 03, 2006, 03:00:37 PM

Thank you ;) What part/tribe are you from?

Ibo
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: team mvp on February 03, 2006, 03:24:34 PM
"since they have pretty much lost the AA track in B-School and Med School."



What do you mean?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on February 03, 2006, 04:13:20 PM
"since they have pretty much lost the AA track in B-School and Med School."



What do you mean?

Well a friend of mine who graduated from a top B school told me that there has been an increase in int'l B-School applicants from Africa such that the AA impact of diversifying B-School with soft factors, URM etc is not as strong as before. And I know for a fact that if there is an increase in African anything in an Anglo-phone country I bet you the drivers are Nigerians.

Now if we want to translate LSAT to GMAT, you just drop the 1 and mutiply the remaining 2 digits by 100. So a LSAT of 167 is a GMAT of 670. Now 3 friends of mine (and I know its a small and likely unrepresentative sample) got a 660, 690 and a 720 on their GMAT scores and all three applied to Harvard, Stanford, Wharton and Michigan. All had work experience and  GPAs above 3.7 ( the 720 was a bus major with a 3.87). Only the 720 guy got into all 3 schools while the rest got into only 1 each (Wharton and Harvard) and I think one was waitlisted at Michigan. Now in LSAT terms those scores are unbelievable for URMs and with work experience to boot they'd be in at HYSCCN no questions asked. But because of the sheer volume of folks like them (not necessarily with exact numbers) applying to B-School, the AA thing doesn't pull them in as much. So in summary, the AA track in B-School doesn't pull you in as much as in Law School.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: team mvp on February 03, 2006, 04:25:51 PM
"since they have pretty much lost the AA track in B-School and Med School."



What do you mean?

Well a friend of mine who graduated from a top B school told me that there has been an increase in int'l B-School applicants from Africa such that the AA impact of diversifying B-School with soft factors, URM etc is not as strong as before. And I know for a fact that if there is an increase in African anything in an Anglo-phone country I bet you the drivers are Nigerians.

Now if we want to translate LSAT to GMAT, you just drop the 1 and mutiply the remaining 2 digits by 100. So a LSAT of 167 is a GMAT of 670. Now 3 friends of mine (and I know its a small and likely unrepresentative sample) got a 660, 690 and a 720 on their GMAT scores and all three applied to Harvard, Stanford, Wharton and Michigan. All had work experience and  GPAs above 3.7 ( the 720 was a bus major with a 3.87). Only the 720 guy got into all 3 schools while the rest got into only 1 each (Wharton and Harvard) and I think one was waitlisted at Michigan. Now in LSAT terms those scores are unbelievable for URMs and with work experience to boot they'd be in at HYSCCN no questions asked. But because of the sheer volume of folks like them (not necessarily with exact numbers) applying to B-School, the AA thing doesn't pull them in as much. So in summary, the AA track in B-School doesn't pull you in as much as in Law School.

interesting, what about med school?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on February 03, 2006, 05:12:43 PM
Med school is the domain of Nigerians, lol.

Before I decided on law, me and 8 of my Nigerian friends were all pre-med. The lowest MCAT score among us was 38 (98 %ile--highest is 45). After I decided to stand up to my parents and get out of medicine (I hate medicine so much), the rest of them went on to apply to med school. Now without exception, they all got into excellent schools but some of the rejects they got made me think the med schools must be crazy because they had out of this world scores by any standard, talk less of for URMs (the average is 23 for URMs, I believe). If they had scored in the 98 %ile for law school, we'd be talking auto-admits to even HYS, especially considering their super-high GPAs.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: team mvp on February 03, 2006, 05:18:34 PM
Med school is the domain of Nigerians, lol.

Before I decided on law, me and 8 of my Nigerian friends were all pre-med. The lowest MCAT score among us was 38 (98 %ile--highest is 45). After I decided to stand up to my parents and get out of medicine (I hate medicine so much), the rest of them went on to apply to med school. Now without exception, they all got into excellent schools but some of the rejects they got made me think the med schools must be crazy because they had out of this world scores by any standard, talk less of for URMs (the average is 23 for URMs, I believe). If they had scored in the 98 %ile for law school, we'd be talking auto-admits to even HYS, especially considering their super-high GPAs.

true, but med school is way more competitive in general though for all, urm or not
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on February 03, 2006, 05:59:15 PM
That's alright, we ALL go back to African roots of you count far enough.

Sweet, does this mean I'm black? :D

Raise the roof!!
LOL ;)
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: jnc18 on February 03, 2006, 07:59:27 PM
Now if we want to translate LSAT to GMAT, you just drop the 1 and mutiply the remaining 2 digits by 100. So a LSAT of 167 is a GMAT of 670. Now 3 friends of mine (and I know its a small and likely unrepresentative sample) got a 660, 690 and a 720 on their GMAT scores and all three applied to Harvard, Stanford, Wharton and Michigan. All had work experience and  GPAs above 3.7 ( the 720 was a bus major with a 3.87). Only the 720 guy got into all 3 schools while the rest got into only 1 each (Wharton and Harvard) and I think one was waitlisted at Michigan. Now in LSAT terms those scores are unbelievable for URMs and with work experience to boot they'd be in at HYSCCN no questions asked. But because of the sheer volume of folks like them (not necessarily with exact numbers) applying to B-School, the AA thing doesn't pull them in as much. So in summary, the AA track in B-School doesn't pull you in as much as in Law School.

Not countering your point, it may very well be legit, but with regards to the support of your argument:

I would like to point out that a 167 actually corresponds more closely to a 720 on the GMAT (based on percentiles) and the GPA means MUCH less when applying to B-school, while the particular work experience carries enormous weight.

(BTW, 660 = 161 and 690 = 163-164)
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on February 04, 2006, 07:50:58 AM

Interesting b/c all my young cousins who are doing their year of service in Lagos downplay their being Igbo (although their last names are a giveaway)- b/c the chances that you will score a high paying job as an Igbo are slim to none w/o serious connection b/c of all the tribal problems that still occur - I was shocked to hear abt it all when I was there - I thought it was a thing of the past.

which jobs?
Title: Nations Cup
Post by: Jontor on February 04, 2006, 08:29:22 AM
Nigeria wins in penalty shootout...anyone interested you can actually watch the Nations cup live online at www.telesud.com it costs about $29 all the games $15 for one team and $5 for just one game and it's life....can't beat it
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on February 04, 2006, 09:23:22 AM

Interesting b/c all my young cousins who are doing their year of service in Lagos downplay their being Igbo (although their last names are a giveaway)- b/c the chances that you will score a high paying job as an Igbo are slim to none w/o serious connection b/c of all the tribal problems that still occur - I was shocked to hear abt it all when I was there - I thought it was a thing of the past.

which jobs?

Banking

Just wondering how they can downplay their being in Igbo in Naija..... ??? 
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on February 04, 2006, 09:45:10 AM
nigerians suck ;D
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on February 04, 2006, 11:11:01 AM
nigerians suck ;D

How do you mean Burning Sands?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on February 04, 2006, 02:33:56 PM
I was just talkin reckless.  Of course Nigerians don't suck.

Its just that sometimes I am aggrivated by the behavior of our people you know?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on February 04, 2006, 04:09:43 PM

Thank you ;) What part/tribe are you from?

Ibo


I'm Igbo too!

Interesting b/c all my young cousins who are doing their year of service in Lagos downplay their being Igbo (although their last names are a giveaway)- b/c the chances that you will score a high paying job as an Igbo are slim to none w/o serious connection b/c of all the tribal problems that still occur - I was shocked to hear abt it all when I was there - I thought it was a thing of the past.

Gosh..my Igbo brothers and sisters have taken over but Yoruba's are right behind you O!! We colonized London and Dublin (the latter in an abnormally fast process) and soon we will match you man for man, woman for woman in Yankee!!! ;D ;D

But on a serious note..I have heard of blatant ethnic discrimination in Nigeria's labor market and it sickens me. I strongly feel we need some kind of EEOC or comprehensive Civil Rights legislation to ban all forms of discrimination in housing, employment, education and access to public services ( I think the 1999 constitution has language to that effect but like many other aspects of the document, its not really enforced  :(). Its sad but I pray over time things change...but you know what, I think, just like in here, many of these triablish BS can be diminished through intermarriage. I hope I don't sound like I have been living under a rock for the past decade, but I swear it seems like there are a lot of ethnic intermarriages now. Hopefully the process continues cos all I remember in secondary school in Lagos, was how much finer many of the girls from the east were compared to the yoruba babes (just speaking for myself here).

As per the med school thing, my sister did the MCAT and I think she got a 32 or something like that. I remember she flew to a couple of schools for interviews and got admitted to Wash U in St Louis, Vanderbilt and Yale. She finally got into a UC school (which was pretty well ranked) but she was telling me that AA wasn't really pulling much her way cos there was a huge supply of Africans/African American applicants. Considering the sheer number of med school applicants wanted to come over here from UCH, Nsukka, Ife, LUTH etc. I certainly expect the number of Naijas in law school to increase exponentially....after that I guess it will be dominating the robotic engineering/quantum meta-physics/genetic transformative biophysics or whatever the Star Wars type fields are out there!!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on February 04, 2006, 08:31:03 PM

By the end of the trip -I was seriously like despite being a totally radical idea -- the only potential solution I see working for Nigeria right now is to reinstate foreign rule -people who will not fall prey to corruption (and I am a very proud Nigerian)

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OH HEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOO!!! No you didn't just say that??  :-[

Foreign rule?? As in re-colonization..I mean things are bad but saying we should throw out our nascent republic and call back Her Majesty's Horseguards parade ain't it. I'm not too crazy about Naija politics now (with the Godfatherism and Gov's piling up cash by looting their state's treasury) but we are experiencing democracy any newbie does (Iraq, Afghanistan and yes even the US decades after the republic was founded). We've got a long way to go but that option is not even worth considering. I'm shocked ma'am..shocked I tells ya :o :o!!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on February 04, 2006, 09:28:35 PM
Word. That's why sh!t is so f*cked up now.  After the Brits bounced the country finally got to take its own direction and you can see the learning curve manifested in the slow but steady progress that has been made since the 60's.  Is it where it should be?  No where close.  But bringing in foreign rule again isn't the solution.  I hear what you're saying but Nigeria, relatively speaking, just got the training wheels taken off.  It has to learn to balance itself on its own now. 
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on February 04, 2006, 10:01:09 PM
I feel you on that Burning Sands. The same group of criminals has been ruling the counrty since 1960 and they are bound to continue rulling till God knows when...I wasn't even born the first time Obasonjo ruled Nigeria and he came back after how many years..The only ting we need now is tsunami in Abuja when they are all in session....I love Nigeria but I continue to believe tha my generation is the most deprieved generation ...NIgeria didn't do sh** for us we paid for primary Education....Secondary...Tert iary. Hopefully someday we will be able to do something for Naija and help preserve that country for our grandkids.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Victor on February 05, 2006, 09:02:38 AM
I was just talkin reckless.  Of course Nigerians don't suck.

Its just that sometimes I am aggrivated by the behavior of our people you know?

Word, son!

Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: onyeigbo on February 05, 2006, 12:25:43 PM
Interesting..
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on February 05, 2006, 12:38:19 PM

By the end of the trip -I was seriously like despite being a totally radical idea -- the only potential solution I see working for Nigeria right now is to reinstate foreign rule -people who will not fall prey to corruption (and I am a very proud Nigerian)


OH HEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOO!!! No you didn't just say that??  :-[

Foreign rule?? As in re-colonization..I mean things are bad but saying we should throw out our nascent republic and call back Her Majesty's Horseguards parade ain't it. I'm not too crazy about Naija politics now (with the Godfatherism and Gov's piling up cash by looting their state's treasury) but we are experiencing democracy any newbie does (Iraq, Afghanistan and yes even the US decades after the republic was founded). We've got a long way to go but that option is not even worth considering. I'm shocked ma'am..shocked I tells ya :o :o!!

Yes -  well at least I am glad that you are so passionate about Nigerian politics - but honestly - until you are there - I cannot believe that you can really understand what people are going through daily -- its complete desperation - and I know abt the horrors of colonization - my parents were in the Biafran war and trust me - I have heard the stories - but what do you suggest? the only non-corrupt gov official - the woman who is the head of naija food and health - her life has been threatened severely b/c she does not give into bribes and such - its all fun and games when you view nigerian politics through our foreign lenses - but if you want immediate results - i say that local rule is horrible! i am just being realistic.
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Divo - I can feel you on that.  Like I said earlier, Nigeria just got the training wheels off and is learning to balance.  If we could get past our own tribal beef and get our act together Nigeria has all the makings of a world super power, on par with the rest of the world super powers...

I am jaded b/c my Dad is a petroleum engineer in Delta State, and he sees first hand the business & politics behind our oil exportation.  The US and Europe are constantly in there making deals and lobbying the oil companies, and the nigerian officials are right there in the middle not even realizing what kind of gold mind they're sitting on.  And meanwhile, all the money generated over this resource somehow never seems to make its way back to the people.  You have cats rollin around in Mercedes Benze in the city, and you drive 10 minutes north and you have cats looking like a scene out of Tears of the Sun.  But what can you do?  Question a government that has killed its own officials by firing squad?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: windowshopper on February 05, 2006, 12:46:50 PM
naija in the house!  looks like we're taking over LSD too.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on February 05, 2006, 05:46:58 PM


Yes -  well at least I am glad that you are so passionate about Nigerian politics - but honestly - until you are there - I cannot believe that you can really understand what people are going through daily -- its complete desperation - and I know abt the horrors of colonization - my parents were in the Biafran war and trust me - I have heard the stories - but what do you suggest? 
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(Assumptions Assumptions)..I think the main point of your issue was whether the country is better off now or when we were a British protectorate. I don't know how to frame that other than asking if you are better off being led or being independent. I'll take the latter anyday since I don't believe those "leaders" are that much better. Like Sands said the training wheels just came off and we are a little wobbly. It happened here and see how far they've come..Japan post-World War II had an elected Prime Minister and a Diet, so did Germany (ever heard of Konrad Adenauer?) and the US was primarily there for defensive purposes against Communist Russia (in the case of Germany) and Communist China and Korea (in case they got the jimmies and wanted revenge on a newly democratic Japan). Certainly the US was not there as a colonial master if so, why would they watch Japan and Germany rise up big time to be the 2nd and 3rd largest economies of today. We are still learning and we will do better. Afterall, I don't think it was an oversight on God's part that we were born Nigerians.

PS: This logic applies to any freedom loving nation in the world, it's a little hard in the beginning but some years later one can look back proudly and say "My..see how far I've come"!!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on February 05, 2006, 08:59:27 PM
Well said.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on February 06, 2006, 09:53:14 PM
I also want to note that the issue of political Godfatherism is tolerated by the current administration which sickens me and makes me wonder how genuine a reformer the incumbent claims to be. But so that we don't turn this into a never ending debate/discussion of Nigeria's never ending problems, I'd like to drop it and move to other issues like how we can help our fellow brothas/sistas trying to get a leg up the law school thing...Anyone accepted/attending GWU or GULC? How do folks even afford to live there?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on February 07, 2006, 04:23:01 PM
LOL  agreed. we can go on for days talking about the politics of Nigeria.

Although she's not nigerian (hey, nobody's perfect) Blk Reign attended GW Law so she can speak on making it out there in DC.  We've got a few DC cats on the board.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: justGem on February 08, 2006, 10:43:37 AM
I am a DC native Stencil.  My advice:  get a roommate or live in the surrounding suburbs (MD or VA)  the closer you live to GULC or GW, the more expensive.  If you arent concerned with neighborhoods or crime you can live where I grew and get a 2BR for about $400/month - right in the city and about 10-15 minutes from both campuses.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on February 08, 2006, 12:44:28 PM
If you arent concerned with neighborhoods or crime you can live where I grew and get a 2BR for about $400/month - right in the city and about 10-15 minutes from both campuses.


What kind of crime? I really haven't lived in the city since I moved to this country (suburbs all the time) and I think my wife will divorce me if I lived in a moderately unsafe area. I'm thinking of NoVA as opposed to MD, but I'm worried about traffic and high rent (the latter will probably work itself out since my college roomate won't mind rooming with me again). Are there trains from Arlington, Alexandria etc into the city? Can one get a decent 2 bdr in NoVA for under a $1k/month? How is parking in the city? Are there toll roads there?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: justGem on February 10, 2006, 06:47:34 AM
Hey Stencil,

I lived in NoVa for a few years.  There are some areas with reasonable rents and your best bet for trying to avoid traffic is to live close to a metro (subway).  Travel will be easy to GW or Goergetown b/c they are both near metro stops. By car you have to cross water to get into DC from DC so the bridges have a lot of rush hour traffic.  A friend of mine lives in an apartment community called "Kings Garden." The apartments are spacious and affordable and easy access to major commuting routes to DC and also only a few blocks from the metro (subway).  Good luck.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: windowshopper on February 10, 2006, 07:36:02 AM
In DC, everywhere is expensive-- even in the hood!  PM me and I will give you the name and number of my property mgmt company.  I pay very reasonable rent in a very nice area of NW.

Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on February 10, 2006, 12:11:31 PM
In DC, everywhere is expensive-- even in the hood!  PM me and I will give you the name and number of my property mgmt company.  I pay very reasonable rent in a very nice area of NW.



Yeah..thanks though..well I really don't want to go to school in DC (both are pricey and I will be away from my wife) if I can help it...but if I do, I think NoVA will be it. I already told my college buddy who lives there that if I come, we'll be rooming again..just like we did in college. Hope he's got money saved up cos I don't..

Also I plan on working on a future presidential campaign and its going to be HQ in either NoVA or Richmond..though I think NoVA will be the eventual place
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Andromeda on February 28, 2006, 04:14:19 PM
I see there are also NIgerians on here.

Anyone, Nigerians that is, planing on going to school in Chicago??
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on February 28, 2006, 04:23:19 PM
I see there are also NIgerians on here.

Anyone, Nigerians that is, planing on going to school in Chicago??
You're Naija?

I might be going to school in Chicago
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Victor on February 28, 2006, 06:53:33 PM
A question, do you guys hang out with a gang of Nigerians? How many Nigerian friends do you have?


Discuss.


Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on February 28, 2006, 07:56:33 PM
A question, do you guys hang out with a gang of Nigerians? How many Nigerian friends do you have?


Discuss.




Son, damn near every black person at my school is Nigerian.

We're always together pretty much everyday.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Victor on February 28, 2006, 08:32:44 PM
A question, do you guys hang out with a gang of Nigerians? How many Nigerian friends do you have?


Discuss.




Son, damn near every black person at my school is Nigerian.

We're always together pretty much everyday.


That sounds fly. Do you converse with them in native langauge?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 01, 2006, 05:07:10 AM
A question, do you guys hang out with a gang of Nigerians? How many Nigerian friends do you have?
I hang out with a lot of Nigerians, especially now that I'm back home from college, and the group just keeps increasing as I friend-zone the guys my parents press on me. It's nice to be able to talk to others in Yoruba and even with my Igbo friends, it's just nice that we share that Naija bond.

Do you actually want me to count how many I have?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Victor on March 01, 2006, 05:10:07 AM
A question, do you guys hang out with a gang of Nigerians? How many Nigerian friends do you have?
I hang out with a lot of Nigerians, especially now that I'm back home from college, and the group just keeps increasing as I friend-zone the guys my parents press on me. It's nice to be able to talk to others in Yoruba and even with my Igbo friends, it's just nice that we share that Naija bond.

Do you actually want me to count how many I have?

You dont have to count. Sounds like many.

Where do you reside?

Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 01, 2006, 05:12:44 AM
Where do you reside?
Somewhere in New England or the Mid-Atlantic :D
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on March 01, 2006, 05:13:10 AM
A question, do you guys hang out with a gang of Nigerians? How many Nigerian friends do you have?


Discuss.


I do hang out with alot of Nigerians mostly Yoruba and Bendel guys..I will say about 7 in all. Been out of school for 3 years now. In school I didn't really know any Naija not even one.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on March 01, 2006, 05:14:54 AM
Somewhere in New England or the Mid-Atlantic :D

Whereabout in New England?
I'm on the North Of Boston right on the border of NH and Mass.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Victor on March 01, 2006, 05:25:39 AM
Where do you reside?
Somewhere in New England or the Mid-Atlantic :D


Nice.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on March 01, 2006, 05:27:16 AM
How many law schools are in Chicago? I only know of 5: Chicago, Northwestern, Loyola, UIC and John Marshall.. Thought about school in Chicago but had the mid west for undergrad and wasn't looking forward to the freeze.

Nigerian friends? Sure but most of the time its me and the wife. I'm trying to balance my pool with non-Nigerians but dammit everywhere you go they are all around you...like pestilence see  ;D (j/k).

Hey what about them Naija movies..I'm too conservative for some of their wardrobe styles but man there is this Yoruba chick with a bad booty (especially when she wears those micro-mini skirts). I tell you it'd suffice for a comfy pillow ;D
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Victor on March 01, 2006, 05:36:39 AM
Pardon me if I'm being too inquisitive.

Another question I have is do you guys ever have any issues with African Americans? I know people quickly assume you are African American. Your culture is different. Do you try to separate yourselves from them? Did you have any problems growing up? Any conflict with other Af-Am?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Victor on March 01, 2006, 05:40:32 AM

Hey what about them Naija movies..I'm too conservative for some of their wardrobe styles but man there is this Yoruba chick with a bad booty (especially when she wears those micro-mini skirts). I tell you it'd suffice for a comfy pillow ;D

I dont check out Nigerian flicks. But i'm trying to get my Nigerian music game up. One of my past hobbies was beatmaking so i'm trying to have that Nigerian sound to it.

Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 01, 2006, 05:45:15 AM
Pardon me if I'm being too inquisitive.

Another question I have is do you guys ever have any issues with African Americans? I know people quickly assume you are African American. Your culture is different. Do you try to separate yourselves from them? Did you have any problems growing up? Any conflict with other Af-Am?

LOL, I don't think I have to answer this question since a thread on here bears testament to the answer. But suffice to say: yes to having issues.

@Jontor--We're pretty close location-wise.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Victor on March 01, 2006, 05:54:15 AM
Oh petitschoque I didnt peep that thread. Mind linking me?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: blk_reign on March 01, 2006, 05:57:58 AM
UIC doesn't have a law school.. u're thinking of Urbana which is a couple of hours away... Depaul, Chicago-Kent are the other two

How many law schools are in Chicago? I only know of 5: Chicago, Northwestern, Loyola, UIC and John Marshall.. Thought about school in Chicago but had the mid west for undergrad and wasn't looking forward to the freeze.


Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 01, 2006, 06:10:21 AM
Oh petitschoque I didnt peep that thread. Mind linking me?

Sure. Are you ready to enter the warzone? Things got REALLY ugly over here and towards the end, I lost my temper and said some things I didn't mean. But I stand by my experiences and POV:

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,52294.0.html (http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,52294.0.html)


Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Andromeda on March 01, 2006, 07:23:46 AM
I see there are also NIgerians on here.

Anyone, Nigerians that is, planing on going to school in Chicago??
You're Naija?

I might be going to school in Chicago

Yep!

Not sure yet if I'll end up in Chicago, but I'm still thinking about it. You going there for sure?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on March 01, 2006, 07:25:46 AM
Pardon me if I'm being too inquisitive.

Another question I have is do you guys ever have any issues with African Americans? I know people quickly assume you are African American. Your culture is different. Do you try to separate yourselves from them? Did you have any problems growing up? Any conflict with other Af-Am?


Hmmm..I've been thinking about starting a thread on relationships and experiences of African Americans and non-American Africans in the US (particularily those from Nigeria..er Africa (well since they are the largest contingent of Africans anywhere it might as well relate to them)..so I'll post it later and partly address victor's comments
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 01, 2006, 07:36:14 AM
Yep!
Wow! what tribe and city/town?

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Not sure yet if I'll end up in Chicago, but I'm still thinking about it. You going there for sure?
I'm the same as you--not sure. I'm leaning toward UChicago because of it's reputation but then again I've heard so many reports about how ugly the campus is and the weather really is cold...I've been yoyo-ing back and forth between like 5 schools and I'm waiting to hear from one about money...
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Andromeda on March 01, 2006, 07:42:06 AM
Yep!
Wow! what tribe and city/town?

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Not sure yet if I'll end up in Chicago, but I'm still thinking about it. You going there for sure?
I'm the same as you--not sure. I'm leaning toward UChicago because of it's reputation but then again I've heard so many reports about how ugly the campus is and the weather really is cold...I've been yoyo-ing back and forth between like 5 schools and I'm waiting to hear from one about money...

Yeah, I am worried about the weather the most. I've been out there to visit friends/family and the weather is just cooollld! I'm from Delta, and I grew up partly in Lagos, you?.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 01, 2006, 07:44:57 AM
Yeah, I am worried about the weather the most. I've been out there to visit friends/family and the weather is just cooollld! I'm from Delta, and I grew up partly in Lagos, you?.
Ondo. But when I go back home, I'm in Lagos and that's where I lived and schooled when I was in Naija/when I went back.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: blk_reign on March 01, 2006, 07:57:20 AM
u'd have to be able to stomach below zero winters and 10 inch snow days without classes being cancelled in spite of it...the greatness of University of Chicago outweighs a few months of horrible weather...
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Andromeda on March 01, 2006, 08:04:25 AM
u'd have to be able to stomach below zero winters and 10 inch snow days without classes being cancelled in spite of it...the greatness of University of Chicago outweighs a few months of horrible weather...

I bet, but below zero??? hmmmm......
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on March 01, 2006, 08:22:27 AM
Here's a new thread I started and would like if anyone would like to contribute..

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,55610.0.html
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Steph_A on March 01, 2006, 09:46:39 PM
I know I'm late, but I just wanted to check in too.

Igbo tribe.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on March 02, 2006, 04:34:17 AM
I know I'm late, but I just wanted to check in too.

Igbo tribe.

Welcome aboard Steph
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 02, 2006, 05:38:44 AM
Let me pose the question I asked on Stencilanusky's thread here too:

Beyond acknowledging the history and contributions of black Americans to our current lifestyles, does anyone here think that Africans living in America should do something more to show 'gratitude' for the civil rights movement? If so, what? If not, why?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Common Sense on March 02, 2006, 06:54:37 AM
Let me pose the question I asked on Stencilanusky's thread here too:

Beyond acknowledging the history and contributions of black Americans to our current lifestyles, does anyone here think that Africans living in America should do something more to show 'gratitude' for the civil rights movement? If so, what? If not, why?

Yes. Work with them to create a better America.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 02, 2006, 06:59:24 AM
Let me pose the question I asked on Stencilanusky's thread here too:

Beyond acknowledging the history and contributions of black Americans to our current lifestyles, does anyone here think that Africans living in America should do something more to show 'gratitude' for the civil rights movement? If so, what? If not, why?

Yes. Work with them to create a better America.
That's an awesome answer :) But isn't that something we owe all Americans regardless of color?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Common Sense on March 02, 2006, 07:03:17 AM
Let me pose the question I asked on Stencilanusky's thread here too:

Beyond acknowledging the history and contributions of black Americans to our current lifestyles, does anyone here think that Africans living in America should do something more to show 'gratitude' for the civil rights movement? If so, what? If not, why?

Yes. Work with them to create a better America.
That's an awesome answer :) But isn't that something we owe all Americans regardless of color?

No.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 02, 2006, 07:05:05 AM
Let me pose the question I asked on Stencilanusky's thread here too:

Beyond acknowledging the history and contributions of black Americans to our current lifestyles, does anyone here think that Africans living in America should do something more to show 'gratitude' for the civil rights movement? If so, what? If not, why?

Yes. Work with them to create a better America.
That's an awesome answer :) But isn't that something we owe all Americans regardless of color?

No.
Umm...okay. So we only owe it to those of our color? Or what exactly do you mean?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Common Sense on March 02, 2006, 07:12:32 AM
Let me pose the question I asked on Stencilanusky's thread here too:

Beyond acknowledging the history and contributions of black Americans to our current lifestyles, does anyone here think that Africans living in America should do something more to show 'gratitude' for the civil rights movement? If so, what? If not, why?

Yes. Work with them to create a better America.
That's an awesome answer :) But isn't that something we owe all Americans regardless of color?

No.
Umm...okay. So we only owe it to those of our color? Or what exactly do you mean?

We owe it to those who broke down barriers so that we might compete...An African who gets a minority scholarship or who checks the box should understand that they are affiliating themselves with a collective struggle for human dignity that was denied on the basis of color
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 02, 2006, 07:20:04 AM
We owe it to those who broke down barriers so that we might compete...An African who gets a minority scholarship or who checks the box should understand that they are affiliating themselves with a collective struggle for human dignity that was denied on the basis of color
So you say that we only owe working for a better America to those "who broke down barriers so that we might compete?" In that case, that still means all Americans because the civil rights struggle did not happen in a bubble. While blacks worked and fought, the changes that needed to be made would not have occurred had the rest of society not acted. Do you think blacks singlehandedly did everything? Or do you think that blacks are the only ones in a "collective struggle for human dignity"? I'm not getting your rationale...
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Common Sense on March 02, 2006, 07:32:23 AM
We owe it to those who broke down barriers so that we might compete...An African who gets a minority scholarship or who checks the box should understand that they are affiliating themselves with a collective struggle for human dignity that was denied on the basis of color
So you say that we only owe working for a better America to those "who broke down barriers so that we might compete?" In that case, that still means all Americans because the civil rights struggle did not happen in a bubble. While blacks worked and fought, the changes that needed to be made would not have occurred had the rest of society not acted. Do you think blacks singlehandedly did everything? Or do you think that blacks are the only ones in a "collective struggle for human dignity"? I'm not getting your rationale...

No it doesn't mean all Americans--not everyone marched on Washington, boycotted etc.  That is our weak attempt to sanitize history/reality.  I owe those progressive Americans of other races a duty, but I do not owe America writ large a duty.  And then again is the question of proportionality.  To whom much is given, much is required.  Lets be honest, when you check the box take the scholarship you are being given something because of a legacy of a particular struggle for dignity. 
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 02, 2006, 07:40:29 AM
We owe it to those who broke down barriers so that we might compete...An African who gets a minority scholarship or who checks the box should understand that they are affiliating themselves with a collective struggle for human dignity that was denied on the basis of color
So you say that we only owe working for a better America to those "who broke down barriers so that we might compete?" In that case, that still means all Americans because the civil rights struggle did not happen in a bubble. While blacks worked and fought, the changes that needed to be made would not have occurred had the rest of society not acted. Do you think blacks singlehandedly did everything? Or do you think that blacks are the only ones in a "collective struggle for human dignity"? I'm not getting your rationale...

No it doesn't mean all Americans--not everyone marched on Washington, boycotted etc.  That is our weak attempt to sanitize history/reality.  I owe those progressive Americans of other races a duty, but I do not owe America writ large a duty.  And then again is the question of proportionality.  To whom much is given, much is required.  Lets be honest, when you check the box take the scholarship you are being given something because of a legacy of a particular struggle for dignity. 
Okay. You're welcome to your ideas just as I am to mine. Opinion is murky territory and I cannot argue with your way of seeing this nor do I really feel motivated to do so.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Common Sense on March 02, 2006, 07:45:45 AM
We owe it to those who broke down barriers so that we might compete...An African who gets a minority scholarship or who checks the box should understand that they are affiliating themselves with a collective struggle for human dignity that was denied on the basis of color
So you say that we only owe working for a better America to those "who broke down barriers so that we might compete?" In that case, that still means all Americans because the civil rights struggle did not happen in a bubble. While blacks worked and fought, the changes that needed to be made would not have occurred had the rest of society not acted. Do you think blacks singlehandedly did everything? Or do you think that blacks are the only ones in a "collective struggle for human dignity"? I'm not getting your rationale...

No it doesn't mean all Americans--not everyone marched on Washington, boycotted etc.  That is our weak attempt to sanitize history/reality.  I owe those progressive Americans of other races a duty, but I do not owe America writ large a duty.  And then again is the question of proportionality.  To whom much is given, much is required.  Lets be honest, when you check the box take the scholarship you are being given something because of a legacy of a particular struggle for dignity. 
Okay. You're welcome to your ideas just as I am to mine. Opinion is murky territory and I cannot argue with your way of seeing this nor do I really feel motivated to do so.

My general point is if you feel like you have no sense of affiliation with that struggle, thats fine.  Just don't check the box/apply for those grants.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 02, 2006, 07:51:59 AM
We owe it to those who broke down barriers so that we might compete...An African who gets a minority scholarship or who checks the box should understand that they are affiliating themselves with a collective struggle for human dignity that was denied on the basis of color
So you say that we only owe working for a better America to those "who broke down barriers so that we might compete?" In that case, that still means all Americans because the civil rights struggle did not happen in a bubble. While blacks worked and fought, the changes that needed to be made would not have occurred had the rest of society not acted. Do you think blacks singlehandedly did everything? Or do you think that blacks are the only ones in a "collective struggle for human dignity"? I'm not getting your rationale...

No it doesn't mean all Americans--not everyone marched on Washington, boycotted etc.  That is our weak attempt to sanitize history/reality.  I owe those progressive Americans of other races a duty, but I do not owe America writ large a duty.  And then again is the question of proportionality.  To whom much is given, much is required.  Lets be honest, when you check the box take the scholarship you are being given something because of a legacy of a particular struggle for dignity. 
Okay. You're welcome to your ideas just as I am to mine. Opinion is murky territory and I cannot argue with your way of seeing this nor do I really feel motivated to do so.

My general point is if you feel like you have no sense of affiliation with that struggle, thats fine.  Just don't check the box/apply for those grants.

Um...thank you for your opinion and "admonishment"...?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Common Sense on March 02, 2006, 07:53:33 AM
We owe it to those who broke down barriers so that we might compete...An African who gets a minority scholarship or who checks the box should understand that they are affiliating themselves with a collective struggle for human dignity that was denied on the basis of color
So you say that we only owe working for a better America to those "who broke down barriers so that we might compete?" In that case, that still means all Americans because the civil rights struggle did not happen in a bubble. While blacks worked and fought, the changes that needed to be made would not have occurred had the rest of society not acted. Do you think blacks singlehandedly did everything? Or do you think that blacks are the only ones in a "collective struggle for human dignity"? I'm not getting your rationale...

No it doesn't mean all Americans--not everyone marched on Washington, boycotted etc.  That is our weak attempt to sanitize history/reality.  I owe those progressive Americans of other races a duty, but I do not owe America writ large a duty.  And then again is the question of proportionality.  To whom much is given, much is required.  Lets be honest, when you check the box take the scholarship you are being given something because of a legacy of a particular struggle for dignity. 
Okay. You're welcome to your ideas just as I am to mine. Opinion is murky territory and I cannot argue with your way of seeing this nor do I really feel motivated to do so.

My general point is if you feel like you have no sense of affiliation with that struggle, thats fine.  Just don't check the box/apply for those grants.

Um...thank you for your opinion and "admonishment"...?

you're welcome.  best of luck in the future.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 02, 2006, 07:58:04 AM
you're welcome.  best of luck in the future.
If you mean that, then thank you :) Best luck and blessings to you too :)
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Common Sense on March 02, 2006, 08:01:15 AM
you're welcome.  best of luck in the future.
If you mean that, then thank you :) Best luck and blessings to you too :)

why wouldn't I mean it?  :( when one of us does well we all benefit...
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 02, 2006, 08:06:08 AM
you're welcome.  best of luck in the future.
If you mean that, then thank you :) Best luck and blessings to you too :)

why wouldn't I mean it?  :( when one of us does well we all benefit...
Good point :) I hope others will be benefiting quite a bit from me.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on March 02, 2006, 11:53:47 AM
So do we have a roll call of Nigerians going to US law schools this year and what they hope to do with their law degree upon graduation?

I'll go first: I'm going to a decent school and would like to work on international trade agreements with developing countries. Go..
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Steph_A on March 02, 2006, 02:03:52 PM
Thanks Jontor :)

I know I'm late, but I just wanted to check in too.

Igbo tribe.

Welcome aboard Steph
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: team mvp on March 04, 2006, 02:49:57 PM
I've got a nigerian (Igbo) gf.  Am I allowed here?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on March 04, 2006, 03:59:24 PM
I've got a nigerian (Igbo) gf.  Am I allowed here?
If you guys get married you are technically a Naija by marriage other than that I leave than decision for my elders
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on March 04, 2006, 04:47:36 PM
I've got a nigerian (Igbo) gf.  Am I allowed here?

Shoot Ptp...with you moving on up via Columbia..her entire village will take on your last name....j/k (we are all brothers and sisters here man..besides, there's at least a 45%-60% chance you have Nigerian ancestors anyway (Fon, Yoruba, Edo, Istekiri, Igbo and maybe Ibibio))
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: team mvp on March 04, 2006, 06:45:45 PM
I've got a nigerian (Igbo) gf.  Am I allowed here?

Shoot Ptp...with you moving on up via Columbia..her entire village will take on your last name....j/k

that sounds great lol
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Pythagoras on March 04, 2006, 08:31:57 PM
I'm so happy I found this thread!  I never imagined there was a such a large contingent of Nigerians on LSD. But then again, I shouldn't be too surprised to find out we've colonized yet another territory.

I'm Yoruba--although the ocassional relapse into Valley-girl accent might fool you (unfortunate side-effect of my California days).

To answer King Shark's question: I'll likely attend a NY school even though I keep playing footsie with PENN. As for jobs, I'll prob. end up in BIGLAW if I can get in...can't send money to all the relatives in Naija on a Public Interest salary  :). 
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on March 04, 2006, 09:06:38 PM
Wait till they start calling you to
1.send $$$..as in US Dollars..Greenbacks, nothing less than a note with Grant or Ben Franklin on it (God help you if even think of changing it to Naira)
2. sponsor a cousin's child in the US
3. build a house for one uncle or auntie
4. Fly someone over for treatment
5. and did I mention send money

 ;D

Oh..Pythagoras shall I expect you to be repping for Egbe Omo Oduduwa at Cravath?

I've got a nigerian (Igbo) gf.  Am I allowed here?

Shoot Ptp...with you moving on up via Columbia..her entire village will take on your last name....j/k

that sounds great lol
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Pythagoras on March 05, 2006, 10:43:13 AM
King Shark, don't forget #6: Paying the caterer for your cousin-in law's uncle's best-friend's god-mother's daughter's wedding.

"Oh..Pythagoras shall I expect you to be repping for Egbe Omo Oduduwa at Cravath?"

Lol...only if there's a branch at Sullivan Cromwell. Or Akin Gump, or Skadden Arps, or Watchell, or etc etc etc  ;)

Wait till they start calling you to
1.send $$$..as in US Dollars..Greenbacks, nothing less than a note with Grant or Ben Franklin on it (God help you if even think of changing it to Naira)
2. sponsor a cousin's child in the US
3. build a house for one uncle or auntie
4. Fly someone over for treatment
5. and did I mention send money

 ;D



Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Steph_A on March 05, 2006, 12:02:19 PM
Harvard seems like my first choice right now (my mother is ecstatic, of course). My plans will probably be more concrete once I spent some time in law school, but I'm strongly considering immigration law or international development work.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on March 07, 2006, 04:52:15 AM
What do you guys think about thi OBJ third term bid? Or I'm I the only one that thinks that this is crazy!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 07, 2006, 05:03:41 AM
What do you guys think about thi OBJ third term bid? Or I'm I the only one that thinks that this is crazy!
It's crazy and unconstitutional and disappointing since I once had hopes for Obasanjo. But anyway, disappointment, flouting the constitution, and craziness...what's new in Nigeria?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on March 07, 2006, 05:44:28 AM
... I once had hopes for Obasanjo. But anyway, disappointment, flouting the constitution, and craziness...what's new in Nigeria?

I had hopes too for him in the past....before the first thing I do once I get to work is read Nigerian news, these days I go like a week or two without checking what is going on there cos is always something disappointing. A great country that continued to be abused and used by same cliques since independence.  Which I have a solution and if I do it will really be a radical solution..... ???
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 07, 2006, 06:31:54 AM
A great country that continued to be abused and used by same cliques since independence.

It's very disappointing to see how Nigeria underachieves. There's no reason for us to be living as expatriates when we are citizens of a country so rich in every way. Nigerians possess brilliant, industrious minds and our resources are plentiful, we should be the African China--moving higher and higher with explosive growth in all areas :(

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Which I have a solution and if I do it will really be a radical solution..... ???

What's your idea?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on March 07, 2006, 07:13:24 AM
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What's your idea?

I sent you a note don't wanna be chastised this morning
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Andromeda on March 07, 2006, 07:14:55 AM
What do you guys think about thi OBJ third term bid? Or I'm I the only one that thinks that this is crazy!

It is beyond crazy. It goes to show what Fela was singing about "Confusion breaki bonie"..."Demo-CRAZY". The worst part is from what I've heard, with about 2 months to go until elections, he still has no opponent!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: blk_reign on March 07, 2006, 07:16:20 AM
hmm..sounds like the way that Black Americans feel to me living in America...  8)

A great country that continued to be abused and used by same cliques since independence.

It's very disappointing to see how Nigeria underachieves. There's no reason for us to be living as expatriates when we are citizens of a country so rich in every way. Nigerians possess brilliant, industrious minds and our resources are plentiful, we should be the African China--moving higher and higher with explosive growth in all areas :(


Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on March 07, 2006, 08:00:00 AM
Pls don't tell me it involved bloodshed or anything of the sort  ;). I'm dissappointed too but let me ask you this , assuming OBJ is a good guy  ::)..is having the devil you know better than the devil you don't know. I fault OBJ for not lining up a credible successor (unless of course, he wanted the 3rd term thing all along) but if his replacement is a snake like Atiku or Mujaheedeen radical like Buhari or a lying SOB of Babangida..what would we do? They are all liars, deceivers, witches and barbarians anyway.


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What's your idea?

I sent you a note don't wanna be chastised this morning
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on March 07, 2006, 08:52:44 AM
Pls don't tell me it involved bloodshed or anything of the sort  ;). I'm dissappointed too but let me ask you this , assuming OBJ is a good guy  ::)..is having the devil you know better than the devil you don't know. I fault OBJ for not lining up a credible successor (unless of course, he wanted the 3rd term thing all along) but if his replacement is a snake like Atiku or Mujaheedeen radical like Buhari or a lying SOB of Babangida..what would we do? They are all liars, deceivers, witches and barbarians anyway.


Quote

What's your idea?

I sent you a note don't wanna be chastised this morning

King Shark my idea is just way too radically that it's not feasible and it's just an idea not that I will implement it if I have the power. I had high hopes for OBJ but this third term agenda I cannot help but classify Atiku, Buhari, Babangida & OBJ under the same umbrella. I just can't understand what it is with African leaders loving to cling to power. I guess Africa is the only place on earth where history is irrelevant, look at what happened to Mobutu Seseku(spelling) and his likes. Arise Africa, it's way overdue!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on March 07, 2006, 10:10:06 AM
Well..the practice is pretty common worldwide but Africa generally exhibits it in the rawest forms...we just need to pray..we already know the elections are rigged so our voice is mute..except God's voice of course.



Pls don't tell me it involved bloodshed or anything of the sort  ;). I'm dissappointed too but let me ask you this , assuming OBJ is a good guy  ::)..is having the devil you know better than the devil you don't know. I fault OBJ for not lining up a credible successor (unless of course, he wanted the 3rd term thing all along) but if his replacement is a snake like Atiku or Mujaheedeen radical like Buhari or a lying SOB of Babangida..what would we do? They are all liars, deceivers, witches and barbarians anyway.


Quote

What's your idea?

I sent you a note don't wanna be chastised this morning

King Shark my idea is just way too radically that it's not feasible and it's just an idea not that I will implement it if I have the power. I had high hopes for OBJ but this third term agenda I cannot help but classify Atiku, Buhari, Babangida & OBJ under the same umbrella. I just can't understand what it is with African leaders loving to cling to power. I guess Africa is the only place on earth where history is irrelevant, look at what happened to Mobutu Seseku(spelling) and his likes. Arise Africa, it's way overdue!

Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: petitschoque on March 08, 2006, 05:17:40 AM
LOL@Jontor.

On a related topic, how did Ghana get where it is today? It wasn't so long ago that Ghanaians were so poor that their professors came to Nigeria to be tailors and hairdressers. It wasn't so long ago that Nigerians had the upperhand and arrogantly mistreated Ghanaians (lol, anyone remember what "ghana must go" is?). How did they get their act together and how can we learn from them? Not to advocate violence but I seem to remember Ghana lining up and shooting those military and government heads who had corrupted their stations...

Granted Ghana is not perfect but it speaks volumes that it isn't seen as quite the 3rd world quagmire of corruption Nigeria is known to be nor is it being torn apart like Sierra Leone, Liberia, and Cote D'Ivoire. It's doing very well in West Africa--do Ghanaians have two heads?...
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: justGem on March 08, 2006, 07:50:58 AM
Pls don't tell me it involved bloodshed or anything of the sort  ;). I'm dissappointed too but let me ask you this , assuming OBJ is a good guy  ::)..is having the devil you know better than the devil you don't know. I fault OBJ for not lining up a credible successor (unless of course, he wanted the 3rd term thing all along) but if his replacement is a snake like Atiku or Mujaheedeen radical like Buhari or a lying SOB of Babangida..what would we do? They are all liars, deceivers, witches and barbarians anyway.


Quote

What's your idea?

I sent you a note don't wanna be chastised this morning

King Shark my idea is just way too radically that it's not feasible and it's just an idea not that I will implement it if I have the power. I had high hopes for OBJ but this third term agenda I cannot help but classify Atiku, Buhari, Babangida & OBJ under the same umbrella. I just can't understand what it is with African leaders loving to cling to power. I guess Africa is the only place on earth where history is irrelevant, look at what happened to Mobutu Seseku(spelling) and his likes. Arise Africa, it's way overdue!


Interesting comment Jantor.  I see where the King Shark is coming from with the worser of evils comment b/c I had a similar view with regards to the last US presidential election. Bush (the known evil) vs. Kerry (the unknown but likely evil).  But about Mobutu, with this type of thinking such men like him will not succeed in an election or in office no matter how hard they try to portray a hopeful future for Africa with removal of corruption and remnant puppeteering by European nations.  It like a traumatized mentality where no one can trusts anyone.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Stencilasnusky on March 08, 2006, 08:25:34 AM
That is so true PC..I actually do remember the Ghana must go bag (I confess I have about 2 in my house which I brought with me from a recent Naija trip..HAHAHA)...My mum actually worked at the Ministry of Internal Affairs (similar to the US Department of Homeland Security)..and the Minsiter was this crass uneducated Northern bonehead soldier who's name escapes me now...
How does Ghana do it? They don't have 2 heads for sure. I was taught by Ghanian teachers in the 80s ( though I refused to substitute the word "but" for their "bet"!!!)..anyhoo..Nigerians are just a complicated bunch of folks I tell you..I find Ghananians to be generally more peaceful and not as "gra-gra" as we are....could it be the complexity of ethnic relationships? the lack of a "unifying" take charge visionary like Rawlings? Are we just too big to manage (remember Nigeria is the most populated African nation ( I think its about 135-150 millino, with the largest standintg army ..I think the next most populous country is Egpyt at about 77 million)..I mean we are HUGE!!! And that involves complexity but doesn't mean we should be stupid about our affairs..

Hey on a side note...the AIPAC (American Israeli Political Action Committee) is having its annual convention in DC with speakers from both political parties, business and other groups..has anyone thought about establishing a similar thing for Nigerians here in the US? I think with the fact that there is going to be a permanent Nigerian-American community and with tons of us moving up the ranks of medicine, business and now law, and maybe politics..we could form a similar interest group to not only look out for Nigeria's interests (and that of others in and out of Africa) but also as a standing pressure group to ensure that Nigeria and Africa as a whole grows democratically and towards free market economics..any thoughts would be appreciated?

LOL@Jontor.

On a related topic, how did Ghana get where it is today? It wasn't so long ago that Ghanaians were so poor that their professors came to Nigeria to be tailors and hairdressers. It wasn't so long ago that Nigerians had the upperhand and arrogantly mistreated Ghanaians (lol, anyone remember what "ghana must go" is?). How did they get their act together and how can we learn from them? Not to advocate violence but I seem to remember Ghana lining up and shooting those military and government heads who had corrupted their stations...

Granted Ghana is not perfect but it speaks volumes that it isn't seen as quite the 3rd world quagmire of corruption Nigeria is known to be nor is it being torn apart like Sierra Leone, Liberia, and Cote D'Ivoire. It's doing very well in West Africa--do Ghanaians have two heads?...
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Nnamdi on March 27, 2006, 08:14:14 AM
Just saw the thread , Igbo man checking in, how is everyone doing?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Perversely on March 29, 2006, 10:59:58 PM
I leave tomorrow for Nigeria for two weeks  - wish me luck!






good luck. pardon me for asking, but why nigeria?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Nnamdi on March 30, 2006, 04:51:23 AM
I leave tomorrow for Nigeria for two weeks  - wish me luck!






good luck. pardon me for asking, but why nigeria?

Because Nigeria is his/her native country!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on May 11, 2006, 09:59:11 AM
Anyone going to Naija before the start of school in August? ..I will be there in July till mid august.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Andromeda on May 11, 2006, 10:10:58 AM
Was planning on going over this summer, but that's been scrapped now!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on May 11, 2006, 11:01:31 AM
Was planning on going over this summer, but that's been scrapped now!

Why did you scrap it...I thought of scrapping the trip too, the cost of the ticket alone is crazy but I can't justify scrapping it, haven't been home in a long time
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Pythagoras on May 11, 2006, 12:01:37 PM
I was thinking of going but my Dad just up and decided to come here for the summber so that's scrapped. 

So now, I'm thinking of going over Christmas.  It would be a nice way to de-stress after finals.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Steph_A on May 11, 2006, 10:37:33 PM
I wish I could go  :'(. Anyone want to let me borrow a couple thousand  ;D?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Andromeda on May 12, 2006, 09:15:16 AM
Was planning on going over this summer, but that's been scrapped now!

Why did you scrap it...I thought of scrapping the trip too, the cost of the ticket alone is crazy but I can't justify scrapping it, haven't been home in a long time

Can't afford to anymore, with school right around the corner. But I really should go home soon, haven't been back in over 6 years now. But I'm also not very highly motivated to go back as my fam and most of my extended fam are not there. MOre like going to see my friends and re-live the Naija experience.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on May 12, 2006, 10:33:01 AM

Can't afford to anymore, with school right around the corner. But I really should go home soon, haven't been back in over 6 years now. But I'm also not very highly motivated to go back as my fam and most of my extended fam are not there. MOre like going to see my friends and re-live the Naija experience.

Different for me...my folks are most of my siblings are still back home....so I have to touch base.
Title: OBJ's 3rd term bid fails
Post by: Jontor on May 16, 2006, 11:38:46 AM
Link from BBC news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4986904.stm
Title: Re: OBJ's 3rd term bid fails
Post by: Pythagoras on May 16, 2006, 12:23:14 PM
Link from BBC news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4986904.stm

Really thought it would go the other way.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: pikey on May 19, 2006, 12:01:01 PM
I just stole this from a girl's posting on facebook

You know you are Nigerian:

If your name is so long, or so hard to pronounce, that you either have some "Americanized" nickname, or you use your middle name (which is English).

If, you know what your name means.

If you know of anyone (including yourself) that has any of the following names: Ola, Sade, Bola, Tunji, Ngozi, Uche, Folake, Ifeoma, Tolu, Tunde, Obi, Chioma, Chituru, Chinyere, Adaobi, Nkemi, Nneka, Bunmi or Fatima.

If, names like Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Patience, Peace, Blessing, God's Will or Mercy sound pretty normal to you.

If, rice and stew just isn't the same without plantain (dodo)

If, you would prefer Moin Moin, or Farina (fufu) with soup over McDonalds any day.

If, you have ever treated a cold or sorethroat with "Pe-pe Soup".. AND IT WORKED!!!!!!

If you know what AKATA means.

If, your parents or relatives have ever disliked someone because of the simple fact that they were AKATA.

(for females) If, not being able to cook stew or soup is one of the most major burdens in life.

We have family friends whose daughters are named Chioma and Chinyere.  I knew that their father is from Africa, so I think its safe to assume that he's Nigerian, judging from this post.  :)
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Pythagoras on May 19, 2006, 01:50:45 PM
I just stole this from a girl's posting on facebook

You know you are Nigerian:

If your name is so long, or so hard to pronounce, that you either have some "Americanized" nickname, or you use your middle name (which is English).

If, you know what your name means.

If you know of anyone (including yourself) that has any of the following names: Ola, Sade, Bola, Tunji, Ngozi, Uche, Folake, Ifeoma, Tolu, Tunde, Obi, Chioma, Chituru, Chinyere, Adaobi, Nkemi, Nneka, Bunmi or Fatima.

If, names like Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Patience, Peace, Blessing, God's Will or Mercy sound pretty normal to you.

If, rice and stew just isn't the same without plantain (dodo)

If, you would prefer Moin Moin, or Farina (fufu) with soup over McDonalds any day.

If, you have ever treated a cold or sorethroat with "Pe-pe Soup".. AND IT WORKED!!!!!!

If you know what AKATA means.

If, your parents or relatives have ever disliked someone because of the simple fact that they were AKATA.

(for females) If, not being able to cook stew or soup is one of the most major burdens in life.

LMAO.  180.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on May 19, 2006, 01:55:58 PM

We have family friends whose daughters are named Chioma and Chinyere.  I knew that their father is from Africa, so I think its safe to assume that he's Nigerian, judging from this post.  :)
Right on the money!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Andromeda on June 14, 2006, 01:03:54 PM
This link seems to be going round quite a bit. Thought to share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86HnJbp2qs
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Pythagoras on June 14, 2006, 01:10:13 PM
This link seems to be going round quite a bit. Thought to share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86HnJbp2qs

I watched that the other day.  HILARIOUS.  (And so so so true)
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Jontor on July 26, 2006, 05:24:06 AM
Leaving for Naija this saturday evening. Anyone going too?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: KeepitRealGirl on July 27, 2006, 12:01:22 PM
Yoruba checking in!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: justGem on July 27, 2006, 12:07:39 PM
Bawoni o
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on July 27, 2006, 12:41:15 PM
Ibibio checking in.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: justGem on July 27, 2006, 12:44:24 PM
Ibibio checking in.

Boo! j/k ;)
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: LomeAC on July 27, 2006, 10:09:54 PM
Igbo- repping Imo State  :)
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: OCLawGirl on April 26, 2007, 04:51:24 PM
RESURRECTING THIS THREAD!

I'm Nigerian.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: legallyafro on June 06, 2007, 09:08:52 PM
Attempting to resurrect this thread myself. Nigerian in the house. :) Anyone taking the LSAT this monday?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: ChiEsque on March 26, 2008, 10:21:57 PM
This thread has been snoozing for a hot min!! Igbo babe in the house! ;D
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: OneL.ove on March 27, 2008, 11:50:36 AM
Igbo's represent  ;D There has to be more of us applying this cycle. Where's everyone else?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: hoyathon on March 29, 2008, 10:54:50 AM
Yoruba in the house. Ba wo ni?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: vyolet on March 29, 2008, 12:17:50 PM
Yoruba girl over here! How u dey?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: hoyathon on March 30, 2008, 02:27:06 AM
Hey vyolet, how did your application cycle go.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: lalalagirl007 on March 30, 2008, 03:41:38 PM
Igbo---HOLLA!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: ChiEsque on April 03, 2008, 06:23:44 PM
For those applying this cycle, where are you attending/thinking of attending?

I'd torn between DePaul and W&L...I really want to go to Howard but haven't heard back from them  ???
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: hoyathon on April 04, 2008, 01:02:43 PM
does the W&L mean Washington and Lee? if it does then I would advise you to take it since it is really good. Hey do any of you know if any law firms in nigeria take volunteer- unlikely but just curious.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: ready4challenge on April 17, 2008, 06:35:15 PM
IGBO KWENU.....  Igbo's in the house.

lalagirl007 where are you going to law school???
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: ChiEsque on April 22, 2008, 07:58:27 PM
does the W&L mean Washington and Lee? if it does then I would advise you to take it since it is really good. Hey do any of you know if any law firms in nigeria take volunteer- unlikely but just curious.

Thanks hoyathon. Yes, it does and I finally decided to enroll there. Sorry, not sure about volunteer opportunities in 9ja. Tho i dont think that they'll pass u up if the dont gotta pay you. What kind of law firm do u have in mind?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: vyolet on April 24, 2008, 07:12:37 PM
does the W&L mean Washington and Lee? if it does then I would advise you to take it since it is really good. Hey do any of you know if any law firms in nigeria take volunteer- unlikely but just curious.


Hey the best thing for you to do is look online at law firms and call them and tell them that you've been accepted to law school in the US and that you would like to volunteer at their firm so that you can gain perspective on the legal system in Nigeria. I worked for a firm in Lagos last summer and it was the best opportunity of my life!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: hoyathon on April 30, 2008, 07:37:39 PM
Hey, i took you advise and I am getting a lot of replies. By the way what law firm did you work at? Also my brother is going to attend Washington and lee for undergrad Chiesque but I don't knwo how close your law campus is to the undergrad school.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: aggie08 on May 01, 2008, 05:34:13 PM
Checking representing Eko and Houston.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: braveheart on May 14, 2008, 07:34:01 PM
Yoruba in the house- Bawo ni?
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: hoyathon on May 15, 2008, 08:44:06 PM
this thread should try to be lively
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: imike24 on May 21, 2008, 09:08:30 AM
yeah agreed :)
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Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on June 03, 2008, 08:51:21 AM
May 20, 2008, 2:11AM

In America, Nigerians' education pursuit is above rest
Whether driven by immigration or family, data show more earn degrees

By LESLIE CASIMIR

For Woodlands resident David Olowokere, one of Nigeria's sons, having a master's degree in engineering just wasn't enough for his people back home. So he got a doctorate.

His wife, Shalewa Olowokere, a civil engineer, didn't stop at a bachelor's, either. She went for her master's.

The same obsession with education runs in the Udeh household in Sugar Land. Foluke Udeh and her husband, Nduka, both have master's degrees. Anything less, she reckons, would have amounted to failure.

"If you see an average Nigerian family, everybody has a college degree these days," said Udeh, 32, a physical therapist at Memorial Hermann-Texas Medical Center. "But a post-graduate degree, that's like pride for the family."

Nigerian immigrants have the highest levels of education in this city and the nation, surpassing whites and Asians, according to Census data bolstered by an analysis of 13 annual Houston-area surveys conducted by Rice University.

Although they make up a tiny portion of the U.S. population, a whopping 17 percent of all Nigerians in this country held master's degrees while 4 percent had a doctorate, according to the 2006 American Community Survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 37 percent had bachelor's degrees.

In comparison
To put those numbers in perspective, 8 percent of the white population in the U.S. had master's degrees, according to the Census survey. And 1 percent held doctorates. About 19 percent of white residents had bachelor's degrees. Asians come closer to the Nigerians with 12 percent holding master's degrees and 3 percent having doctorates.


The Nigerian numbers are "strikingly high," said Roderick Harrison, demographer at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank that specializes in researching black issues. "There is no doubt that these are highly educated professionals who are probably working in the petrochemical, medical and business sectors in Houston."

Harrison analyzed the census data for the Houston Chronicle.

Stephen Klineberg, a sociologist at Rice University who conducts the annual Houston Area Survey, suspects the percentage of Nigerian immigrants with post-graduate degrees is higher than Census data shows.

Of all the Nigerian immigrants he reached in his random phone surveys 1994 through 2007 45 households total Klineberg said 40 percent of the Nigerians said they had post-graduate degrees.

"These are higher levels of educational attainment than were found in any other ... community," Klineberg said.

There are more than 12,000 Nigerians in Houston, according to the latest Census data, a figure sociologists and Nigerian community leaders say is a gross undercount. They believe the number to be closer to 100,000.

Staying in school
The reasons Nigerians have more post-graduate degrees than any other racial or ethnic group are largely due to Nigerian society's emphasis on mandatory and free education. Once immigrating to this country, practical matters of immigration laws get in the way.

The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 made it easier for Africans to enter the U.S., but mostly as students or highly skilled professionals not through family sponsorships, Klineberg said.

So many Africans pursue higher levels of education as an unintended consequence of navigating the tricky minefield of immigration, said Amadu Jacky Kaba, an associate professor at Seton Hall University in South Orange, N.J., who has done research on African immigrants in the U.S.

"In a way, it's a Catch-22 because of immigration laws you are forced to remain in school, but then the funny thing is you end up getting your doctorate at the age of 29," Kaba said. "If you stay in school, immigration will leave you alone."

Although Kaba, who teaches Africana Studies, is not from Nigeria (he is Liberian), he said he, too, found himself pursuing a master's and then a doctorate to remain in this country legally.

But not all Africans have to go this route. Some say their motivation is driven by their desire to overcome being a double minority: black and African.

Take Oluyinka Olutoye, 41, associate professor of pediatric surgery at Baylor College of Medicine. He came to this country already as a medical doctor but decided to pursue his doctorate in anatomy to help set himself apart.

"Being black, you are already at a disadvantage," said Olutoye, whose wife, Toyin Olutoye, is an anesthesiologist at Baylor. "You really need to excel far above if you want to be considered for anything in this country."

Family expectations
All this talk of education creates high expectations for children of Nigerian immigrants. The eldest child of David Olowokere, chairman of the engineering technologies department at Texas Southern University, for example, is already working on her master's degree in public health in Atlanta; the middle child is pursuing a bachelor's in pre-medicine. His youngest, a son, attends The Woodlands High School. He already has aspirations to go into engineering, just like his parents, Olowokere beams.

"The goal is for them to do as good as us if not better," he said.

Oluyinka Olutoye put it another way.

"The typical saying in a Nigerian household is that the best inheritance that a parent can give you is not jewelry or cash or material things, it is a good education," he said. "It is expected."

leslie.casimir@chron.com


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5791096.html
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: hoyathon on June 13, 2008, 09:15:07 AM
well born in nigeria but came to DC to study. I would be junior in college next year. if lucky to get to law school probably corporate law or private international law.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: chydiva82 on June 15, 2008, 01:24:44 PM
May 20, 2008, 2:11AM

In America, Nigerians' education pursuit is above rest
Whether driven by immigration or family, data show more earn degrees

By LESLIE CASIMIR

For Woodlands resident David Olowokere, one of Nigeria's sons, having a master's degree in engineering just wasn't enough for his people back home. So he got a doctorate.

His wife, Shalewa Olowokere, a civil engineer, didn't stop at a bachelor's, either. She went for her master's.

The same obsession with education runs in the Udeh household in Sugar Land. Foluke Udeh and her husband, Nduka, both have master's degrees. Anything less, she reckons, would have amounted to failure.

"If you see an average Nigerian family, everybody has a college degree these days," said Udeh, 32, a physical therapist at Memorial Hermann-Texas Medical Center. "But a post-graduate degree, that's like pride for the family."

Nigerian immigrants have the highest levels of education in this city and the nation, surpassing whites and Asians, according to Census data bolstered by an analysis of 13 annual Houston-area surveys conducted by Rice University.

Although they make up a tiny portion of the U.S. population, a whopping 17 percent of all Nigerians in this country held master's degrees while 4 percent had a doctorate, according to the 2006 American Community Survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 37 percent had bachelor's degrees.

In comparison
To put those numbers in perspective, 8 percent of the white population in the U.S. had master's degrees, according to the Census survey. And 1 percent held doctorates. About 19 percent of white residents had bachelor's degrees. Asians come closer to the Nigerians with 12 percent holding master's degrees and 3 percent having doctorates.


The Nigerian numbers are "strikingly high," said Roderick Harrison, demographer at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank that specializes in researching black issues. "There is no doubt that these are highly educated professionals who are probably working in the petrochemical, medical and business sectors in Houston."

Harrison analyzed the census data for the Houston Chronicle.

Stephen Klineberg, a sociologist at Rice University who conducts the annual Houston Area Survey, suspects the percentage of Nigerian immigrants with post-graduate degrees is higher than Census data shows.

Of all the Nigerian immigrants he reached in his random phone surveys 1994 through 2007 45 households total Klineberg said 40 percent of the Nigerians said they had post-graduate degrees.

"These are higher levels of educational attainment than were found in any other ... community," Klineberg said.

There are more than 12,000 Nigerians in Houston, according to the latest Census data, a figure sociologists and Nigerian community leaders say is a gross undercount. They believe the number to be closer to 100,000.

Staying in school
The reasons Nigerians have more post-graduate degrees than any other racial or ethnic group are largely due to Nigerian society's emphasis on mandatory and free education. Once immigrating to this country, practical matters of immigration laws get in the way.

The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 made it easier for Africans to enter the U.S., but mostly as students or highly skilled professionals not through family sponsorships, Klineberg said.

So many Africans pursue higher levels of education as an unintended consequence of navigating the tricky minefield of immigration, said Amadu Jacky Kaba, an associate professor at Seton Hall University in South Orange, N.J., who has done research on African immigrants in the U.S.

"In a way, it's a Catch-22 because of immigration laws you are forced to remain in school, but then the funny thing is you end up getting your doctorate at the age of 29," Kaba said. "If you stay in school, immigration will leave you alone."

Although Kaba, who teaches Africana Studies, is not from Nigeria (he is Liberian), he said he, too, found himself pursuing a master's and then a doctorate to remain in this country legally.

But not all Africans have to go this route. Some say their motivation is driven by their desire to overcome being a double minority: black and African.

Take Oluyinka Olutoye, 41, associate professor of pediatric surgery at Baylor College of Medicine. He came to this country already as a medical doctor but decided to pursue his doctorate in anatomy to help set himself apart.

"Being black, you are already at a disadvantage," said Olutoye, whose wife, Toyin Olutoye, is an anesthesiologist at Baylor. "You really need to excel far above if you want to be considered for anything in this country."

Family expectations
All this talk of education creates high expectations for children of Nigerian immigrants. The eldest child of David Olowokere, chairman of the engineering technologies department at Texas Southern University, for example, is already working on her master's degree in public health in Atlanta; the middle child is pursuing a bachelor's in pre-medicine. His youngest, a son, attends The Woodlands High School. He already has aspirations to go into engineering, just like his parents, Olowokere beams.

"The goal is for them to do as good as us if not better," he said.

Oluyinka Olutoye put it another way.

"The typical saying in a Nigerian household is that the best inheritance that a parent can give you is not jewelry or cash or material things, it is a good education," he said. "It is expected."

leslie.casimir@chron.com


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5791096.html

very interesting article. As a Nigerian born and raised in the US, I could relate to the testimonials :) Thanks for posting Sands.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: OperaAttorney on June 19, 2008, 04:37:37 PM
Let's spice it up a little...

Are you all first-generation or born in Nigeria?

Ols? 1L's? 2Ls? 3Ls???

What makes you want to go to law school? What type of law do you want to practice?


Here's my bit: I was born in the States but both parents from Nigeria. I've haven't been yet  :'( And yes, I know that I need to go.

Representing Igbos  ;D. Im a OL/ Rising 1L?

Pursued law school because of immigration law interest.



NAIJA MAN IN DA HOUSE!

My parents are from Rivers State. I was born in Los Angeles. Left for Nigeria as a kid. Returned to Cali as a teenager.

I just graduated last weekend and will apply to law school in the fall.  I hope Stanford gives me the green light ;).

What made you choose CLS?

Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: OperaAttorney on June 19, 2008, 05:08:57 PM
I just stole this from a girl's posting on facebook

You know you are Nigerian:

If your name is so long, or so hard to pronounce, that you either have some "Americanized" nickname, or you use your middle name (which is English).

If, you know what your name means.

If you know of anyone (including yourself) that has any of the following names: Ola, Sade, Bola, Tunji, Ngozi, Uche, Folake, Ifeoma, Tolu, Tunde, Obi, Chioma, Chituru, Chinyere, Adaobi, Nkemi, Nneka, Bunmi or Fatima.

If, names like Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Patience, Peace, Blessing, God's Will or Mercy sound pretty normal to you.

If, rice and stew just isn't the same without plantain (dodo)

If, you would prefer Moin Moin, or Farina (fufu) with soup over McDonalds any day.

If, you have ever treated a cold or sorethroat with "Pe-pe Soup".. AND IT WORKED!!!!!!

If you know what AKATA means.

If, your parents or relatives have ever disliked someone because of the simple fact that they were AKATA.

(for females) If, not being able to cook stew or soup is one of the most major burdens in life.

We have family friends whose daughters are named Chioma and Chinyere.  I knew that their father is from Africa, so I think its safe to assume that he's Nigerian, judging from this post.  :)

This made me smile. Here are my responses.

1. I refuse to "Americanize" my name for anyone--I'm a proud Nigerian. The 1st 2 syllables of my first name are easy to pronounce. That's what I go by.

2. Yep. I know what my ALL my names mean. LOL

3. As a student at Federal Gov College Port Harcourt in Rivers State, I encountered these names at least once. The most common ones were Ngozi and Obinna. Ola and Ade are prefixes of sorts, though.  In my form four (sophomore) class we had Olatunde, Adebukola, Olafemi, Adekunle, Olatunji, Femilayo, etc.  The name Chituru always cracked me up. Every Chituru I met was ghetto as hell!

4. Oh yes, the personality names. My friend's 3 sisters were named in the following order: Charity, Patience, and Faith. I knew a dude named GoodHope. I knew another guy named Charles Goodhead. And we had drivers named after everyday of the week, including Wednesday and Thursday. The most common weekday names were Sunday and Monday, I think.

5. Rice and stew is 'right' with fried plantain. I'm from Rivers State, so we don't call it dodo ;).

6. Moin moin is the bomb. It's also healthy.  Farina is a poor substitute for garri/eba. Give me some eba with egusi soup made with goat meat and stockfish, and I'll be a very happy man :).

7. Fo' sho! "Pepe" soup is right. My mom swears it's a panacea.

8. I have problems with the word AKATA.  I hate it when Nigerians adopt a superiority complex. We're all black, we're all the same.  But it's still funny to hear a Naija person a-KA-TA!

9. My parents are atypical Nigerians. Some of their closest friends are AKATA people and OYIBO people  :).

10. Yeah. I'm a feminist but it's the truth. If a Naija lady can't make soup or stew, she had better marry a non-Nigerian cuz that ish won't fly in a Nigerian household LOL.  My mom puts it down in the kitchen!

This was fun, y'all.
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: braveheart on June 20, 2008, 05:52:59 PM
I just stole this from a girl's posting on facebook

You know you are Nigerian:

If your name is so long, or so hard to pronounce, that you either have some "Americanized" nickname, or you use your middle name (which is English).

If, you know what your name means.

If you know of anyone (including yourself) that has any of the following names: Ola, Sade, Bola, Tunji, Ngozi, Uche, Folake, Ifeoma, Tolu, Tunde, Obi, Chioma, Chituru, Chinyere, Adaobi, Nkemi, Nneka, Bunmi or Fatima.

If, names like Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Patience, Peace, Blessing, God's Will or Mercy sound pretty normal to you.

If, rice and stew just isn't the same without plantain (dodo)

If, you would prefer Moin Moin, or Farina (fufu) with soup over McDonalds any day.

If, you have ever treated a cold or sorethroat with "Pe-pe Soup".. AND IT WORKED!!!!!!

If you know what AKATA means.

If, your parents or relatives have ever disliked someone because of the simple fact that they were AKATA.

(for females) If, not being able to cook stew or soup is one of the most major burdens in life.

We have family friends whose daughters are named Chioma and Chinyere.  I knew that their father is from Africa, so I think its safe to assume that he's Nigerian, judging from this post.  :)

This made me smile. Here are my responses.

1. I refuse to "Americanize" my name for anyone--I'm a proud Nigerian. The 1st 2 syllables of my first name are easy to pronounce. That's what I go by.

2. Yep. I know what my ALL my names mean. LOL

3. As a student at Federal Gov College Port Harcourt in Rivers State, I encountered these names at least once. The most common ones were Ngozi and Obinna. Ola and Ade are prefixes of sorts, though.  In my form four (sophomore) class we had Olatunde, Adebukola, Olafemi, Adekunle, Olatunji, Femilayo, etc.  The name Chituru always cracked me up. Every Chituru I met was ghetto as hell!

4. Oh yes, the personality names. My friend's 3 sisters were named in the following order: Charity, Patience, and Faith. I knew a dude named GoodHope. I knew another guy named Charles Goodhead. And we had drivers named after everyday of the week, including Wednesday and Thursday. The most common weekday names were Sunday and Monday, I think.

5. Rice and stew is 'right' with fried plantain. I'm from Rivers State, so we don't call it dodo ;).

6. Moin moin is the bomb. It's also healthy.  Farina is a poor substitute for garri/eba. Give me some eba with egusi soup made with goat meat and stockfish, and I'll be a very happy man :).

7. Fo' sho! "Pepe" soup is right. My mom swears it's a panacea.

8. I have problems with the word AKATA.  I hate it when Nigerians adopt a superiority complex. We're all black, we're all the same.  But it's still funny to hear a Naija person a-KA-TA!

9. My parents are atypical Nigerians. Some of their closest friends are AKATA people and OYIBO people  :).

10. Yeah. I'm a feminist but it's the truth. If a Naija lady can't make soup or stew, she had better marry a non-Nigerian cuz that ish won't fly in a Nigerian household LOL.  My mom puts it down in the kitchen!

This was fun, y'all.

1. My name is not too long to pronounce, but anyhow, i can't change my name so u have no choice than to pronounce it. i remember my first job in america, my manager could not pronounce my name, i gave her the first five letters, which i am commonly called, but still she forgets and i later make her call me the last four letters of my name. when my father heard, he was angry insisting that i force them to call my full name or the first five letters of my name.

2.i have close friends that bear names like sade, ola, chioma etc

3.The names of the week sounds normal to me especially sunday, friday and monday. However, people born on sundays as in females are called bosede instead of sunday

4.Rice and stew with dodo or fried plaintain is just a good combination and tasty too.

5.i prefer moinmoin to farina, i don't eat farina, i only ate it twice i think and that was when i was younger. however, i will take these dishes over Mcdonalds anyday, anytime

6. i know what AKATA means but i or my parents don't dislike people just bcos they are AKATA, as a matter of fact, i have friends who are AKATA.

7. as a Nigerian lady, i am proud to say that i can cook stew or soup, however, if an african woman or lady cannot cook stew or soup, she may find it difficult to find a nigerian guy to marry her except if the nigerian guy have stayed in the state for too long, even at that, my uncle has been in the united states for over 25 years and he still loves and eats african dish like cracy. Stew or soup are different, u have egusi, ogbona, ewedu, ila asepo etc. so therefore, a nigerian lady should know how to cook at least some type of african stew or soup
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: lollypotter on July 06, 2008, 12:06:04 PM
Quote
I just stole this from a girl's posting on facebook

You know you are Nigerian:

If your name is so long, or so hard to pronounce, that you either have some "Americanized" nickname, or you use your middle name (which is English).

If, you know what your name means.

If you know of anyone (including yourself) that has any of the following names: Ola, Sade, Bola, Tunji, Ngozi, Uche, Folake, Ifeoma, Tolu, Tunde, Obi, Chioma, Chituru, Chinyere, Adaobi, Nkemi, Nneka, Bunmi or Fatima.

If, names like Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Patience, Peace, Blessing, God's Will or Mercy sound pretty normal to you.

If, rice and stew just isn't the same without plantain (dodo)

If, you would prefer Moin Moin, or Farina (fufu) with soup over McDonalds any day.

If, you have ever treated a cold or sorethroat with "Pe-pe Soup".. AND IT WORKED!!!!!!

If you know what AKATA means.

If, your parents or relatives have ever disliked someone because of the simple fact that they were AKATA.

(for females) If, not being able to cook stew or soup is one of the most major burdens in life.



This thread makes me lol. Half Yoruba checking in here (the other half is from Sierra Leone).

1. I go by my name without the prefix. Many have tried and failed to get me to adopt a even shorter version of my name. I am, however, the only Nigerian person I have ever met with my name so they can all get lost. My friends are great - they can pronounce my whole name but everyone in my office says my name differently, regardless of how much I correct them.

2. Lol, all of it.

3. My God. Ola (as a prefix),  Bola, Ngozi, Uche, Ifeoma, Tolu, Tunde,  Chioma, - so many. Ayo and Ade = 15 family members. Imagination lacking methinks.

4. Hahaha, don't forget Yesterday.

5. My mouth is watering just thinking of it.

6. I have to break the mold and say I think Moin Moin is disgusting and always have. When I was a child, at a particularly strict family member's house, I was a little bit sick and couldn't swallow my food - it just kept coming back up. They still made me eat it all up. Lol but now I can't eat it at all.

7. My dad used to treat everything with Super Malt and Encona pepper sauce. Seriously.

8. Tut, tut. Where's the love?

9. Not at all. My mother is from Sierra Leone and thinks we're all animals. Lol.

10. So I can make stew (and was sent to an Aunts to be taught to make proper jollof rice), and I can make my boiler chicken. BUT I still (like my mother) burn any and every pot of rice I am left in charge of.  :'( It's pretty funny... til the family events.



Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: vyolet on July 09, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
Hey, i took you advise and I am getting a lot of replies. By the way what law firm did you work at? Also my brother is going to attend Washington and lee for undergrad Chiesque but I don't knwo how close your law campus is to the undergrad school.

I am so happy to hear that! I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier I rarely come on this site. I worked at Punuka Chambers, but probably by now you have already started. How did your cycle go? I'm heading off to Georgetown this fall and I feel so blessed cause I really wanted to go there. What about you, we're Nigerians so I know your cycle went well!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: jadedV on December 07, 2008, 07:38:35 AM
First time poster, just stopped by to represent for the Nigerians out there :)
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on December 07, 2008, 11:16:52 AM
First time poster, just stopped by to represent for the Nigerians out there :)

Welcome!
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: JDat45 on December 10, 2008, 04:27:44 PM
Most Nigerian men are SEXY! :-*
Title: Re: Any Nigerians Out There?
Post by: Kole0019 on April 09, 2009, 08:28:10 PM
I am Nigerian female... :P