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LSAT Preparation => Studying for the LSAT => Topic started by: uwofresh on October 26, 2005, 03:24:31 PM

Title: The second Round.
Post by: uwofresh on October 26, 2005, 03:24:31 PM
After receiving a 159 on my LSAT, I've decided to retake. My highest was a 161 on Preptest #49 and some may wonder why I would retake it when I only did 2 scale points lower. 

The fact is that, I am safe with a lot of the canadian law schools I want to get in to since I have a high GPA.  However, I feel like I can still improve with the extra month I have, and I want to prove to myself I can do better the second time around.  I strongly feel this way because I was really nervous on the first three sections, where I screwed up the most.  Hopefully, I can do a better job second time around.
 ;D
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: Sp33d on October 26, 2005, 05:16:30 PM
good luck..im taking in december too  :D
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: supergirluw on October 26, 2005, 06:16:18 PM
good luck! retaking is the smart thing to do - just because you're highest was a 161 this past round, it doesn't mean you can't average a 175 this time. and don't listen to statistics for how well you can do next time - a little stamina and a lot of devotion goes a LONG way.
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: The Overman on October 26, 2005, 06:25:23 PM
Good luck!
I'm still trying to get my applications done.
The difference in personal statement lengths for the various Ontario law schools is killing me.
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: elsrtop11 on October 26, 2005, 06:25:44 PM
I feel you uwofresh.  I also scored a 159 on the October LSAT.  I was averaging around a 165, so I know I can do better.  The key for me is getting to every question.  I had to blindly guess on 7 this last time, which brought my score down considerably.  

Right now I'm concerned with sending out applications so late.  I had originally  planned on sending out apps this week, but seeing as how I'll be taking the LSAT in December, I guess I should wait and apply in January.  

Is anyone else doing this?  It seems like Jan is a bit late to be sending out apps.  What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: saguaro on October 26, 2005, 06:40:48 PM
I suppose I'm in the same boat as you guys, I just don't feel that my score was reflective of my ability and plan to retake. Good luck on december! Are any of you also low on preptests? I went into October thinking that this would be my one and only so I don't really have much left. Any strategies for this situation?
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: gailrules on October 26, 2005, 06:50:56 PM
I'm retaking in Dec.

I got a 154 in June (after averaging 155).

I'm averaging 163 right now.
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: elsrtop11 on October 26, 2005, 07:08:01 PM
If you studied a lot before October, then I would suggest taking a good break from LSAT for at least 3 weeks or so.  This is what I plan on doing (both out of necessity and because I think a break can be good).  I think part of what went wrong for me in October was that I was approaching the test without the seriousness/urgency that I had when I started studying for the LSAT.  I'll probably take two practice tests before Dec. 3 and not worry about it. 
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: theunderdog on October 26, 2005, 07:48:52 PM
uwofresh:

Best of wishes.

regards, theunderdog.
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: lex19 on October 26, 2005, 07:54:21 PM
hey if you're retaking or taking in dec and applying to schools for this cycle i'm told that it's best to get your apps in now, before i was planning on having them in the first of dec but after talking to a few adcomms at various schools i'm sending em in asap, good luck!
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: elsrtop11 on October 26, 2005, 08:19:18 PM
Thanks for the advice lex.  I was thinking about doing this too, and just noting on my application that I would be retaking in December. 

Uwofresh... have you decided what schools you're applying to?
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: matts720 on October 26, 2005, 08:36:07 PM
I'm retaking, I've decided not to study until I take the Testmasters course in 2 weeks, then cram like crazy. Luckily for me finals aren't until the week of December 12th so my studying for that won't be interrupted.
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: lulu1234 on October 26, 2005, 08:57:22 PM
about sending them in now- I'm going to wait until right after the dec test, just in case the worst scenario happens and i need to cancel. at least for me, it's a lot of pressure to send them in now telling them that i'm retaking in dec, because what if something dire happens and i have to cancel- my app will only look worse then. also, i heard they don't even look at your app until dec score comes out anyway, which sorta defeats the purpose.
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: lex19 on October 26, 2005, 09:00:32 PM
but they'll be ready for your app and just be waiting on your score, and i'm just going on advice from northwestern and cornell adcomms....but good luck anywho

edit: lulu call up a few places and ask, you don't have to give them your name and you'll actually be hearing it from the horses mouth as to whether or not it looks poorly if a person withdraws their app
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: lex19 on October 26, 2005, 09:04:57 PM
also good luck everyone with your studies although i could be spending more time on my apps and studying i'm grateful for lsd and all of the info & support it has to offer.....okay time for me to go to bed i tend to get mushy when i'm tired, lol
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: lulu1234 on October 26, 2005, 10:44:04 PM
that's so strange, because I asked the cornell rep too, and he said that yes, it is fine to turn it in early if you are sure you want to apply. he also said that it won't be reviewed until the score comes out, and that you'll be put "somewhere" in the december pile, not necessarily exactly the first even if you submit early.

but yes, i do agree that submitting early can only be a good thing, if you are not easily nervous and 99% will not cancel on dec 1. good luck!
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: retaker on October 27, 2005, 12:17:57 PM
LULU - I am basically in the same boat as you - 161 on October but was averaging 168 on practice tests with 3.7 gpa. Just out of curiosity, how will you be studying for december? I took testmasters, and i feel like ive already done all there is out there - including 99 percent of the preptests? I bought the two "bibles" and was going to try to work through those, but just wanted to see what other people were doing.

thanks
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: lex19 on October 27, 2005, 12:39:19 PM
how often will you guys be taking timed tests??? i've saved the latest 8 to take timed during nov. i know it's probably more than enough but i'd rather be safe than sorry
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: retaker on October 27, 2005, 12:45:16 PM
I don't have any tests that I havent either taken, or seen questions from - i dont know what to do!
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: lex19 on October 27, 2005, 12:54:19 PM
i think it comes down to whether or not you're strong enough to sit through the tests without being like "i remember this one" if anything you'll only learn more.....i too have done 40,41,42 in the past but it's been a while....good luck retaker!
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: lulu1234 on October 27, 2005, 12:58:17 PM
retaker,

i am doing 10 hrs of private tutoring...i'm not the type to study very well on my own, and thought this would be good way to have an expert diagnose and help me on my weaknesses. of course, it is veryyy expensive, so it's only something to do if you have the resources.

good idea that you bought the bibles- i found them very useful, especially the LR bible. i think i need to work on memorizing what to do for each Question type- i found that on the real thing, i was nervous and just going off my gut, instead of using the tactics.

i agree, i feel like each game is now familiar to me. but, there are probably still a lot of LRs out there that you won't remember, and even if it sounds familiar, be able to justify your answer instead of relying on memory.
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: retaker on October 27, 2005, 03:25:09 PM
thank you for the help. I really appreciated it. GOOD LUCK.

by the way - what company are you going through for private tutors?

Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: uwofresh on October 27, 2005, 04:55:22 PM
Thanks for the advice lex.  I was thinking about doing this too, and just noting on my application that I would be retaking in December. 

Uwofresh... have you decided what schools you're applying to?


Sorry for the late reponse..
I'm applying to all Ontario law school except for U of T, which i have no chance at.  I'm also applying to dalhousie and manitoba as my safety.  UBC told me I'd be very competitive, so I might think about it later on, and that applies to mcgill as well.

MY ideal choice would be Osgoode(which I have a shot at now, but I'd have to wait A LONG time to be accepted) and Ottawa.

How bout you?
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: rwalker130 on October 28, 2005, 02:44:05 PM
uwofresh, what is your last 2 years GPA?

I graduated from Western in 99, have been in the workforce for 6 years (mostly in the US), and recently completed some grad school courses in Public Admin part-time.  Always wanted to go to LS but didn't get the grades I should have in my years in London.  Too many nights at the Ceeps, Barney's and Jim Bob's I guess.

I also scored a 159 on the October, and it looks like my GPA is about a B. The difference for me is the mature student category I fall into at U of T, Manitoba, and many others.  I am hedging my bets and applying to Calgary, Toronto, Windsor, and Manitoba.  I thought I would have no chance at Toronto, but it turns out they have a hugely unpredictable mature student category that I qualify for, and with the upside potential of getting into the best school in the country, I have to take a shot at it. 

Anyway, apologies for the life story, but it's good to see another UWO grad on board.

Cheers,

R
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: be10dwn on October 28, 2005, 02:58:15 PM
god will someone please fix the title of this thred. it is bugging the *&^% out of me
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: uwofresh on October 28, 2005, 03:11:08 PM
hi Rwalker130, My last two years at Western was 86.5% and 85% respectively, which comes to around 3.77 on OLSAS GPA chart.

It's also good to see a fellow Western Alumni..I always felt that our grads just don't get enough credit! ;)
Which program did you graduate from?  I graduated with ACS program.

I think you have a shot at a several Ontario schools with a 159 and a B average.  If you apply under mature category, it will definitely boost your chances, given that you have a decent work experience. 

Where do you plan to attend?
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: uwofresh on October 28, 2005, 03:11:42 PM
god will someone please fix the title of this thred. it is bugging the sh*t out of me

Sorry for the spelling error.  I'll fix that right now.
Title: Re: The second Rdound.
Post by: be10dwn on October 28, 2005, 03:14:40 PM
god will someone please fix the title of this thred. it is bugging the sh*t out of me

Sorry for the spelling error.  I'll fix that right now.

:) you made my day hehe
Title: Re: The second Round.
Post by: rwalker130 on October 28, 2005, 06:15:25 PM
Hey Be10dwn,

Is it thread, or thred?  ;)

R