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Title: Character Fitness App submitted, however, asked for more info re: alc
Post by: ledv on July 10, 2016, 02:28:20 AM
I submitted to the bar my Character and Fitness Application and am sitting for the July 2016 Bar in a couple of weeks. Today, I received a letter from committee who was asking for the additional information: i.e. a detailed narrative of my relationship with alcohol and drugs (including time of first use through present, including frequency of use, amounts consumed, and settings in which I generally consumed.
 
How do I address this?
Title: Re: Character Fitness App submitted, however, asked for more info re: drugs and alc
Post by: Maintain FL 350 on July 10, 2016, 10:38:14 AM
Well, nobody here can tell you what to write for a number of reasons. We don't know your situation, plus it's unethical.

Here's what I can say:

The key when dealing with the Bar is to be completely honest and transparent. They understand that you have had problems in the past, and they want to make sure that those problems are behind you. The also understand that people  with drug and alcohol problems are not always honest regarding the scale of the problem. They will be looking closely at what you tell them.

Be honest, don't make lame excuses, take responsibility.
Title: Re: Character Fitness App submitted, however, asked for more info re: drugs and alc
Post by: 🍟💵🌲🍥 on July 10, 2016, 01:23:29 PM
Well, nobody here can tell you what to write for a number of reasons. We don't know your situation, plus it's unethical.

Here's what I can say:

The key when dealing with the Bar is to be completely honest and transparent. They understand that you have had problems in the past, and they want to make sure that those problems are behind you. The also understand that people  with drug and alcohol problems are not always honest regarding the scale of the problem. They will be looking closely at what you tell them.

Be honest, don't make lame excuses, take responsibility.
wait..........HOW is it "unethical" to give advise on what he should say? That's 99.999% of what we do everyday.
Title: Re: Character Fitness App submitted, however, asked for more info re: drugs and alc
Post by: 🍟💵🌲🍥 on July 10, 2016, 01:27:24 PM
I submitted to the CA Bar my Character and Fitness Application in March 2016 and am sitting for the July 2016 Bar in a couple of weeks. Today, I received a letter from my Moral Character Analyst who was asking for the additional information such as the following: police report, docket and a detailed narrative of my relationship with alcohol and drugs (including time of first use through present, including frequency of use, amounts consumed, and settings in which I generally consumed.
 
Due to a prior misdemeanor for having a fake ID to buy alcohol while I was under 21 and having a prior expunged felony for possession of a controlled substance, I had already turned in the police report and docket in my original application, but will be providing them again to make sure they have it.
 
However, I do not know what to do with the detailed narrative (probably because of bar prep taking over my thought process). I have been on the right path since then (about 6 years ago). I drink on social occasions and maybe a nice glass of wine with dinner from time to time, but thats it. Have had experimental marijuana use, but have not smoked it since undergrad and law school (it gives me the spins, nausea, and memory problems). What is the best way to put this into a respectable narrative to them?
"the best way to put this into a respectable narrative form".......nothing "unethical" with this..............

Just tell the truth. Give a timeline and when in doubt be OVER honest. Normally I tell clients "keep it simple stupid" (small simple answers) but in C&F cases........opposite. Its YOUR burden (not theirs) to meet to show you are a decent person who is capable of doing the job. People get tripped up over Character and forget about FITNESS (its both-its why senile saints get sent out to pasture and former gangbangers are allowed to become judges) 

Remember its your CURRENT C&F that matters most. Stress the fact that you learned and became better FOR the mistake.

"Good decisions come from experience........and experience comes from bad decisions........." (include that somehow)