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Title: Unaccredited Cal Law Schools now Must Disclose Attrrition Rate
Post by: legalpractitioner on April 01, 2016, 07:38:05 PM
http://calbarjournal.com/April2016/TopHeadlines/TH5.aspx


Law schools required to disclose attrition rates

By Laura Ernde
Staff Writer

Unaccredited law schools in California will be required to report student attrition rates under a new rule approved last month by the State Bar Board of Trustees.

The State Bar’s Committee of Bar Examiners proposed the rule to provide greater transparency and effective disclosures to students. It will go into effect June 1. The committee oversees registered, unaccredited law schools in the state and accredited law schools in California that are not approved by the American Bar Association.

Unaccredited schools were already required to disclose in writing to current and prospective students a number of things including bar exam passage rates once a year, before the student pays tuition.

Now, students will be notified in writing of the school’s attrition rates for the past five years. A Los Angeles Times report last year found that about 85 percent of students at unaccredited schools don’t finish their studies.

Trustee Miriam Krinsky said the proposal will increase transparency.

“Consumers are entitled to know what the product is they’re purchasing,” she said.

Deans at several unaccredited schools said the high dropout rates do not tell the full story. Most students that go to unaccredited schools are working adults who may decide for various reasons not to continue their law studies.

“They typically have significant responsibilities outside school, such as families, careers, aging parents, etc.,” Northwestern California University School of Law Dean Michael P. Clancey said in a letter to the committee. “For many of them, life simply gets in the way of their plans for the study of law.”

Good refund policies are a better way to deal with high attrition rates, he said.

Trustee Brandon Stallings, who cast the lone vote against the proposal, said unaccredited schools provide opportunities in underserved areas of the state and expressed concern that the same disclosures are not required for California-accredited law schools.

The board requested that the committee study whether California-accredited law schools should also be required to disclose attrition rates.
Title: Re: Unaccredited Cal Law Schools now Must Disclose Attrrition Rate
Post by: 🍟💵🌲🍥 on July 19, 2016, 05:46:10 PM
http://calbarjournal.com/April2016/TopHeadlines/TH5.aspx


Law schools required to disclose attrition rates

By Laura Ernde
Staff Writer

Unaccredited law schools in California will be required to report student attrition rates under a new rule approved last month by the State Bar Board of Trustees.

The State Bar’s Committee of Bar Examiners proposed the rule to provide greater transparency and effective disclosures to students. It will go into effect June 1. The committee oversees registered, unaccredited law schools in the state and accredited law schools in California that are not approved by the American Bar Association.

Unaccredited schools were already required to disclose in writing to current and prospective students a number of things including bar exam passage rates once a year, before the student pays tuition.

Now, students will be notified in writing of the school’s attrition rates for the past five years. A Los Angeles Times report last year found that about 85 percent of students at unaccredited schools don’t finish their studies.

Trustee Miriam Krinsky said the proposal will increase transparency.

“Consumers are entitled to know what the product is they’re purchasing,” she said.

Deans at several unaccredited schools said the high dropout rates do not tell the full story. Most students that go to unaccredited schools are working adults who may decide for various reasons not to continue their law studies.

“They typically have significant responsibilities outside school, such as families, careers, aging parents, etc.,” Northwestern California University School of Law Dean Michael P. Clancey said in a letter to the committee. “For many of them, life simply gets in the way of their plans for the study of law.”

Good refund policies are a better way to deal with high attrition rates, he said.

Trustee Brandon Stallings, who cast the lone vote against the proposal, said unaccredited schools provide opportunities in underserved areas of the state and expressed concern that the same disclosures are not required for California-accredited law schools.

The board requested that the committee study whether California-accredited law schools should also be required to disclose attrition rates.
ALL law schools should have to disclose their attrition rates and bar pass rates and employment stats
But yeah, when in doubt require the places with the most poison in their tea to show their poison percentages to the consuming public. Caveat Emptor is a great argument that "future lawyers should know the law"........but here's the rub..........these are NOT they. These are the ones who have an associates degree and a 129 LSAT score and are too stupid to know that they are stupid.

Protect our Retards America. REQUIRE ATTRITION RATES AND BAR PASS RATES BE PUBLISHED IN FLASHING NEON ON THE HOMEPAGES OF UNACCREDITED ONLINE AND CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOLS..........
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Title: Re: Unaccredited Cal Law Schools now Must Disclose Attrrition Rate
Post by: legalpractitioner on August 14, 2016, 08:23:03 AM
I tend to agree, those who the nanny state is trying to protect are too stupid and arrogant to understand the odds of ever becoming a lawyer though distance learning.  I calculated the odds as 20-1 against when I undertook distance learning and knew that if I made it past the First Year Bar exam - the odds improve to 5-1 against.
Title: Re: Unaccredited Cal Law Schools now Must Disclose Attrrition Rate
Post by: 🍟💵🌲🍥 on August 14, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
I tend to agree, those who the nanny state is trying to protect are too stupid and arrogant to understand the odds of ever becoming a lawyer though distance learning.  I calculated the odds as 20-1 against when I undertook distance learning and knew that if I made it past the First Year Bar exam - the odds improve to 5-1 against.

People misuse words like "nannystate". Based on that math telling stores NOT to use lead paint in your cupcake frosting is "nannystate"

Title: Re: Unaccredited Cal Law Schools now Must Disclose Attrrition Rate
Post by: legalpractitioner on August 15, 2016, 01:50:27 PM
I tend to agree, those who the nanny state is trying to protect are too stupid and arrogant to understand the odds of ever becoming a lawyer though distance learning.  I calculated the odds as 20-1 against when I undertook distance learning and knew that if I made it past the First Year Bar exam - the odds improve to 5-1 against.

People misuse words like "nannystate". Based on that math telling stores NOT to use lead paint in your cupcake frosting is "nannystate"

Anyone who spent even 30 minutes researching online law schools would stumble upon California State Bar pass statistics which tell most of the story.  If you want to pass the bar, an online school is the worst alternative. It really works only for those unable to attend a ABA or California bar approved law school.  Distance education on the other hands can work just fine in legal systems that do not require a bar exam as in England.
Title: Re: Unaccredited Cal Law Schools now Must Disclose Attrrition Rate
Post by: 🍟💵🌲🍥 on August 15, 2016, 04:31:32 PM
I tend to agree, those who the nanny state is trying to protect are too stupid and arrogant to understand the odds of ever becoming a lawyer though distance learning.  I calculated the odds as 20-1 against when I undertook distance learning and knew that if I made it past the First Year Bar exam - the odds improve to 5-1 against.

People misuse words like "nannystate". Based on that math telling stores NOT to use lead paint in your cupcake frosting is "nannystate"

Anyone who spent even 30 minutes researching online law schools would stumble upon California State Bar pass statistics which tell most of the story.  If you want to pass the bar, an online school is the worst alternative. It really works only for those unable to attend a ABA or California bar approved law school.  Distance education on the other hands can work just fine in legal systems that do not require a bar exam as in England.
Again.........you mistake "us" for "they"........They are not.

PROTECT OUR RETARDS AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!