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Applying to Law School => Law School Admissions => Topic started by: cherylee11 on March 04, 2016, 12:06:42 PM

Title: GPA 3.67, LSAT 144 +30 yr work experience...Odds of getting in Seton Hall?
Post by: cherylee11 on March 04, 2016, 12:06:42 PM
My undergrad GPA was 3.23 from FDU, I took additional undergraduate courses and now have a total of 149 credits. With the extra credits, my cumulative GPA is 3.67. I have 25 years experience working as an accountant + 3 years working as a paralegal. I attended the paralegal studies program at FDU, graduated with honors, and became certified by NALA 6 months later.

I have two very strong letters of recommendation (one from a Seton Hall alumni).

Should I re-take the test in June? I want to start part-time classes in the fall.
Title: Re: GPA 3.67, LSAT 144 +30 yr work experience...Odds of getting in Seton Hall?
Post by: 🍟💵🌲🍥 on March 04, 2016, 09:17:49 PM
First let me address the classic boomer logic bubble..........that experience means NOTHING (not just a small bit....NOTHING) The GPA is good, the LSAT is bad but salvageable since you can retake and law schools nowdays take the HIGHEST score (they used to average them)
Title: Re: GPA 3.67, LSAT 144 +30 yr work experience...Odds of getting in Seton Hall?
Post by: Maintain FL 350 on March 05, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
You need to retake the LSAT. Your GPA is good, but with a 144 you are going to have a tough time getting into to any law school in NJ/NY.

Your personal accomplishments and letters of rec are great, but the truth is they don't matter much. Law school admission is based almost entirely on numbers, and the LSAT is the most important of those numbers. I think SH's average LSAT is around 160, so you'd need to bring your score up to at least 150-155 to be competitive. Even then, there's no guarantee.

Another issue is cost. At your age, do you really want to be saddled with 150k+ debt? If you were admitted to SH with a 144, it would almost certainly be at full price. If you can significantly increase your LSAT, however, you may get a scholarship.

I would suggest taking an LSAT prep course, retaking, and applying to other schools, too. Rutgers is public, and probably cheaper.
Title: Re: GPA 3.67, LSAT 144 +30 yr work experience...Odds of getting in Seton Hall?
Post by: LegallyBald on July 15, 2016, 08:21:02 AM
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news - but you do not have a 3.67 LSDAS GPA (the only one they care about).  The LSDAS GPA does not count any classes after your first BA/BS.  So, you have a 3.27, 144 LSAT, and MUST retake. 

I'm not trying to be an elitist, and totally follow my own advice.  I scored a 153 on the feb LSAT, retook and scored a 158 in June, and am signed up to retake again in September (aiming for 160 plus).  There isn't much reason not to retake anymore, since they only take the highest score now.
Title: Re: GPA 3.67, LSAT 144 +30 yr work experience...Odds of getting in Seton Hall?
Post by: 🍟💵🌲🍥 on July 15, 2016, 05:49:07 PM
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news - but you do not have a 3.67 LSDAS GPA (the only one they care about).  The LSDAS GPA does not count any classes after your first BA/BS.  So, you have a 3.27, 144 LSAT, and MUST retake. 

I'm not trying to be an elitist, and totally follow my own advice.  I scored a 153 on the feb LSAT, retook and scored a 158 in June, and am signed up to retake again in September (aiming for 160 plus).  There isn't much reason not to retake anymore, since they only take the highest score now.
meh,
you can still include it as a "soft"