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Applying to Law School => Law School Admissions => Topic started by: habitant49 on November 29, 2015, 05:19:15 PM

Title: International student and financial aid
Post by: habitant49 on November 29, 2015, 05:19:15 PM
Hi everyone !

I am from France and the LSAC finally told me that my first degree in law from my home country is the equivalent of a bachelor degree. Therefore i can apply to a JD program in the law school through the US. I am not aiming at the best ones because my LSAT score will certainly be around 150.

The problem is that tuition and fee are still pretty expensive in average law schools and i have absolutely no idea on how to "get rid of it". So here are my questions:

How the scholarship system works for international applicant ?
Is it possible for an international applicant to have scholarships that cover the entire tuition and fee ?
If I apply to a law school requiring an LSAT score that is actually below the score i'll have, can i get a better scholarship ?

Thanks for your answers !
Title: Re: International student and financial aid
Post by: Maintain FL 350 on November 30, 2015, 12:10:15 PM
I will try to answer all of your questions to the best of my knowledge. First, however, understand that until you have an actual LSAT score this is all speculation. The LSAT is such an important part of obtaining scholarships and admissions that without a score it is hard to do much more than guess.
 
How the scholarship system works for international applicant ?

I think it works the same as for a U.S. student. You simply apply to schools, and they will offer scholarships based primarily on your GPA and LSAT. There may be some special applications required for international students of which I am unaware. Check with each individual law school to find out.

Is it possible for an international applicant to have scholarships that cover the entire tuition and fee ?

Yes, but again it depends on your GPA and LSAT score. The higher your numbers, the better chance you have of obtaining a full scholarship. You may also be able to apply for specific scholarships for international students or scholarships from private organizations.

If I apply to a law school requiring an LSAT score that is actually below the score i'll have, can i get a better scholarship ?

Generally speaking, yes. The amount of scholarship you receive, however, will depend on how far above the school's average score you are. For example, let's say you score 160 and apply to a school with an average LSAT score of 147. You would likely receive a very large scholarship, maybe a full scholarship. If you apply to a school with an average of 155, you will likely receive some scholarships, but not a full scholarship.

If you score around 150 it will be difficult to get a full scholarship. There may some schools that will offer one, but they will be smaller, lower ranked schools. This leads me to my next point:

It is fine to go to a lower ranked school as long as you understand the possible limitations of the degree. I don't know if you plan to move back to France after school or to stay in the U.S., but most graduates of these schools will find work in the immediate location of the school. So, if you go to a lower ranked school in San Diego it would be very difficult to then move to New York or Washington D.C. and to find a job. It may also be difficult to move back to France, since no one will have heard of the school.

Do you know what you want to do with the degree? Where you want to practice?

Title: Re: International student and financial aid
Post by: Citylaw on November 30, 2015, 05:42:45 PM
Maintain is right on point.

You may also want to consider getting a J.D. or its equivalent in France and then getting an LLM in the U.S. This will only require one year of school in the U.S., but a foreign degree and LLM will allow you to sit for the bar exam in many if not all states.

Just an additional option. I know many people from the University of Paris obtained LLM's at my school to sit for the bar exam.
Title: Re: International student and financial aid
Post by: habitant49 on November 30, 2015, 06:16:11 PM
Thanks a lot that's helpful  !

I want to move back to France once i completed a foreign degree. I want to pursue a little more my studies in my home country but having a degree from the US is very good to get into highly selective program in France. I also need to consider everything because i had no idea that an LLM allows me to sit for the bar exam (i thought it was only a typical degree for foreigners with not that much interest)
Title: Re: International student and financial aid
Post by: Maintain FL 350 on December 01, 2015, 01:43:14 PM
I agree with Citylaw, an LL.M may be a good option. I've known plenty of students from Italy, France, Germany, etc who received LL.Ms in the United States. Keep in mind, however, that you would still have to pass the bar exam which is no small feat.

Lastly, I don't know your specific situation but I generally believe that you should go to law school in the country in which you intend to live. If you want to live in France, a French law degree I probably more useful than an American degree (unless it's from someplace like Harvard). It sounds like you may be sing the degree to gain admission to another graduate program in France, though, so maybe this point is irrelevant.

Anyway, I love France. If you want to trade, you can have my California law job and I'll take your French job. Better vacation benefits!  ;)

 
Title: Re: International student and financial aid
Post by: habitant49 on December 01, 2015, 03:32:39 PM
Ok i'll seriously consider an llm also...

Ahah yeah that sounds like a good trade ;)
Title: Re: International student and financial aid
Post by: Citylaw on December 01, 2015, 04:13:24 PM
Maintain is right on point, if your goal is to be a lawyer in France then get a legal education there.

An American Law School will not teach you anything about French Law, but you can simply do the LLM for a year and take the grueling bar exam, but if you succeed at that your licensed to practice law in a U.S. State, which would probably be very helpful in France.

I would contact schools in the U.S. City you want to relocate to and tell them your situation.

I.e. if you want to be in San Francisco contact University of San Francisco, Golden Gate, and Hastings to see what they offer to French Students.

In New York reach out to New York Law School, Touro, Cardozo, Brooklyn, NYU, etc and see what they offer.

The admissions department at any school is more than happy to talk about a good plan for you.
Title: Re: International student and financial aid
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