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Title: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: calvinexpress on December 13, 2014, 10:33:44 PM
What is the cheapest online law school, and how much is it?
I'm low on cash right now, so I can't pay top dollar.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: barprephero on December 14, 2014, 09:10:24 PM
I'd go to Concord. They are not the "cheapest" but are Regionally Accredited and accept student loans. They even (I believe) cut you a check each term to cover your book and pencils and the like.
http://law.concordlawschool.edu/?source=SF08904&kp_vendorID=61599&utm_source=MSN&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=CLS%2DBrand%2D2014%2DGeneral%2DExact&utm_term=74324841-VQ2-{network}-VQ6-{creative}-VQ16-c


The "cheapest" would be to just study under an attorney. CA lets you do that for 4 years and then sit the bar exam (first year bar exam still required too same as online schools)
The trick is finding an attorney to take you under their wing though.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: calvinexpress on December 15, 2014, 11:34:56 PM
They are not regionally accredited. There are only 6 regionally accrediting bodies in the United States. What body are they accredited under?
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: barprephero on December 16, 2014, 03:56:57 PM
They are not regionally accredited. There are only 6 regionally accrediting bodies in the United States. What body are they accredited under?
I take it you haven't been to their website yet. They are through Kaplan, and they are regional. It's all on their website.
Why the instant presumption that they are not?
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: barprephero on December 16, 2014, 03:59:05 PM
I'm a bit disturbed that you want to attend law school but can't even figure this out on your own, but here it is (in case anyone else can benefit from reading it in the future)

http://www.concordlawschool.edu/Accreditation.aspx     


Accreditation by The Higher Learning Commission

Kaplan University is accredited by The Higher Learning Commission (HLC).*  The formal merger of Concord Law School into Kaplan University in the fall of 2007 made Concord the first online law school to be part of a regionally accredited institution of higher education.




The Higher Learning Commission of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools is tasked with the regional accreditation responsibities for higher education institutions in the central United States. The Higher Learning Commission oversees the accreditation of degree-granting colleges and universities in nineteen Midwestern and South-Central states, including Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, North Dakota, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, New Mexico, South Dakota, Wisconsin, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

The United States Department of Education and the Council for Higher Education Accreditation recognize the Commission as the assigned regional accrediting organization
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: barprephero on December 16, 2014, 04:04:11 PM
They require a Bachelors Degree with a 3.0 GPA so it might not be the best option for all.
There are others that offer admissions with only 60 undergrad credits at a 2.0 GPA but those tend to be the ones not even nationally accredited
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: legalpractitioner on December 16, 2014, 05:17:32 PM
The tuitions are no mystery, get the list from the Cal Bar  - go ask the schools
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: barprephero on December 16, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
The tuitions are no mystery, get the list from the Cal Bar  - go ask the schools
Right. I agree. Its why I went on a bit of a side subject for OP about cost vs affordability. Concord may cost more but the ability to pay may be more doable due to its accrediting. Its kind of like buying a car. There may be a person out there willing to sell you a car for cheaper than others but 1. It might not be a better car, and 2. If they want $1.000 cash and you only have $100 in pocket you may have to get financing and financing might only cover OTHER cars.

But then again OP might have a trust fund or something, I dunno.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: calvinexpress on December 17, 2014, 01:28:26 AM
Thanks for the link. Yes, I confirmed Concord is regionally accredited, but they still are not ABA accredited. I'm not sure how a regionally accredited law school would help in any way, because they still aren't ABA accredited.
I also don't think financial aid such as government Pell grants can be used for education above a bachelor degree - such as a master degree, or  J.D.

Although Concord is considered the Cadillac of online law schools, they still have a low pass rate. None of these online law schools have good pass ratios.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: legalpractitioner on December 17, 2014, 07:12:08 AM
Here's a suggestion - go ahead and take the LSAT. If you do OK then law school, online or otherwise may be for you.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: barprephero on December 17, 2014, 11:26:51 AM
Here's a suggestion - go ahead and take the LSAT. If you do OK then law school, online or otherwise may be for you.
Yeah but then comes in the weight of what is "ok"
I think some "require" you sit it, but just don't care about the score.

To be honest I can't imagine how anyone with even an Associates Degree from community college with a 2.0 GPA in liberal arts could get below a 142 (which some ABA schools accept if you try hard enough)
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: legalpractitioner on December 17, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
Anyone in the bottom 10% might get the message law is not for them.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: barprephero on December 17, 2014, 11:06:03 PM
Anyone in the bottom 10% might get the message law is not for them.
anyone in the bottom 10% probably isn't smart enough to understand the significance of it
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: calvinexpress on December 18, 2014, 07:53:57 PM
I think Cooley law school lets students in with a 120 LSAT score. They don't care, because they just want your $35,000 a year.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: barprephero on December 19, 2014, 02:03:09 AM
I think Cooley law school lets students in with a 120 LSAT score. They don't care, because they just want your $35,000 a year.
Whittier maybe
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: calvinexpress on January 03, 2015, 11:29:32 AM
I'd go to Concord. They are not the "cheapest" but are Regionally Accredited and accept student loans. They even (I believe) cut you a check each term to cover your book and pencils and the like.
http://law.concordlawschool.edu/?source=SF08904&kp_vendorID=61599&utm_source=MSN&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=CLS%2DBrand%2D2014%2DGeneral%2DExact&utm_term=74324841-VQ2-{network}-VQ6-{creative}-VQ16-c


The "cheapest" would be to just study under an attorney. CA lets you do that for 4 years and then sit the bar exam (first year bar exam still required too same as online schools)
The trick is finding an attorney to take you under their wing though.

Don't go to Concord. They have bad student reviews and low baby bar and bar pass ratio. Read the reviews here,
http://www.onlinedegreereviews.org/college/concord-law-school-reviews/
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: cautious on January 26, 2015, 11:06:47 PM
Mid Atlantic School of Law.  I checked with Concord.  Tuition is a whole bunch more than Mid Atlantic and they (Concord) uses the same law books and same process.   You WILL NOT be able to take the BAR but you certainly will learn the law.  You have three years to complete the program.  Fifteen courses - twelve required that cover all the relevant classes that you would take in a brick and mortar school, and then you choose three electives.  Fifteen classes altogether.  I completed the program and I have been involved in several cases of my own (Pro Se).   Anyone can file a claim (civil or criminal).  Civil is much different and a brief and all the document filings are all required.  You do the same thing as a licensed lawyer except you cannot represent a client I court because you will not be licensed.  The day IS coming when on-line degrees will be accepted for the BAR exam.  It's just a matter of time.  Recall back when students first start taking college courses on line and the brick and mortar school students laughed and said that the on-liners aren't getting REAL degrees.  Well, times have changed.  Many, Many more people are attending on line schools and getting certified, REAL degrees.. These are working people who have families and like you, can't afford the time or the money to go to a regular school.  Believe me, I  am confident I could take the BAR with my on line education and pass it (eventually).  Even some Harvard graduates do not pass the bar on the first attempt.  In fact, I would say a good majority don't.  On line education in all disciplines is the thing of the future.  Hell, who can afford to go to college?  Going to a brick and mortar law school can cost you in the hundreds of thousands and FOR WHAT!  The same education you get by studying and learning at home and just applying yourself.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: vanceap3 on January 28, 2015, 04:34:24 AM
That's all well and good, however Mid-Atlantic School of Law is no longer in business.  Have you checked the web site lately...it isn't there!  The Director passed away in July, 2014 and the school was shut down shortly after that.  Transcripts are no longer available.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: Maintain FL 350 on January 28, 2015, 09:46:41 AM
Yes, I think there was  post on the boards a few months ago about MASL closing down.

I'm not sure what the cheapest online law school is, but it probably depends on whether or not the student wants to take the bar. There are some non-bar qualifying degrees out there that are very cheap, but there's not much point unless you just want it for self enrichment.

As far as bar-qualifying degrees, I think that the California correspondence schools are much cheaper than Concord.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: Citylaw on January 29, 2015, 01:08:17 PM
I wouldn't choose online law school because you are low on cash.

Your legal education is a life-long investment and if you are going to pursue spending money for an ABA accredited law school or at least California approved law school is worth it. If there is some physical or personal reason why online law school is necessary and you want to be a lawyer then online law school works, but savings a few thousand now is probably not worth it and you can likely get scholarships at a number of ABA schools. Just my two cents as an anonymous internet poster.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: legalpractitioner on January 30, 2015, 12:13:58 PM
Free online diploma in Legal Studies:

http://alison.com/courses/Diploma-in-Law/content



Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: Citylaw on February 01, 2015, 08:48:59 AM
Doesn't get much cheaper than free.

Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: doctorlaw on February 01, 2015, 12:29:33 PM
Yeah but it doesn't let you sit the bar
Plus even for Novus types, it doesn't say "JD"
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: Citylaw on February 01, 2015, 09:32:07 PM
I don't think anyone recommends pursuing an education at that school, but it doesn't get much cheaper than free.

Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: legalpractitioner on February 02, 2015, 05:13:25 AM
Better than wasting money on NOVUS and given it is an Irish certificate one can claim some facility with common and EU law.  All in all, might be worth it for anyone with a little time. Might consideer it myself as a CLE.

Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: doctorlaw on February 03, 2015, 10:36:19 PM
Better than wasting money on NOVUS and given it is an Irish certificate one can claim some facility with common and EU law.  All in all, might be worth it for anyone with a little time. Might consideer it myself as a CLE.
Does it count as CLE? Don't those have to be pre-approved?
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: legalpractitioner on February 06, 2015, 09:10:14 AM
Depends on the state, I can also use it for professional CLE for one of my employers.  I started the course, interesting enough, seems to be UK law.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: doctorlaw on February 06, 2015, 02:20:54 PM
Depends on the state, I can also use it for professional CLE for one of my employers.  I started the course, interesting enough, seems to be UK law.
So........Every answer is "Mother may I?"
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: emmdee2 on March 07, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
What is the cheapest online law school, and how much is it?
I'm low on cash right now, so I can't pay top dollar.

I am looking right now at the online programs that allow you to take the California Bar Exam and the least expensive I've found are Northwest California University School of Law nwculaw.edu and American International School of Law aisol.org.   NWCU seems more established and AISOL seems to be brand new to the point they might not have any alumni yet.   I am also thinking of Taft and Concord if I were to do the student loans, which I really would prefer to cash flow if I can.   If I do this I would either relate it to my insurance background or perhaps look at immigration law.   

I have been reading here and looking for actual experience with the above mentioned schools.  Taft states 70% eventually pass the California Bar, but not sure how many get to that point.  Having to make trips to California for the baby bar and final bar would be problematic as well.  So I am still thinking on this.  I am just over 50, sure I could do it, but is it going to have any return on the investment of time and money?

Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: legalpractitioner on March 07, 2015, 05:31:40 PM
Taft and others have a proven track record.  Don't go with a DL school that has no attorney alumni.  You can verify their claims by checking the Cal Bar pass rates.  And if you do not want to travel to California to take the exams, this is not for you.  Finally do you have the time - figure 20 hours a week minimum for the next 4 or 5 years.  DL success is time intensive because it depends on rote memory and essays.   If you are outside California, you will be limited to federal practice - Immigration, Tax, Veterans Disability, Social Security and a few other esoteric fields.  Insurance is a good background for Social Security Disability, Veterans Disability.  The latter two fields have training and seminars available through professional orgs like NOSSCR.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: RedBeardVII on May 25, 2015, 09:34:57 PM
Hello.  Thus begins $0.02 worth of info from a newbie

I've been looking over these various issues just lately, focusing almost entirely on California schools as they allow you to sit for the bar (and baby bar, of course) exam.  There are the seven currently "registered, unaccredited, correspondence schools" on the  California Bar website: [There is additional information on "registered, unaccredited, distance" schools, but I've not researched the distinction.]  Here is what I found regarding the prices, but take it with a grain of salt, please; I'm not sure if they include fees or books or whatever.

American International School of Law: $2900 for the first year, $2000 / yr thereafter
California Southern University: approx $25,000 in monthly pmts., but with "a remaining balance" at the end
International Pacific School of Law: approx. $29,000 total
Northwestern California University School of Law: $2850 / yr
Oak Brook College of Law: $5000 / yr
Taft Law School: $330.00 per unit, $7920 / yr (?)
University of Honolulu School of Law: $3000 / yr

For what it's worth, some of the latest bar Pass Rates that I found indicated that 30% - 50% pass rates for Northwestern and Oak Brook, slightly lower for Concord and Taft.  The rest have fairly low rates, but to be fair the numbers are fairly small, like say 1 (one) test taker, so the percentage may be 0 or 100.

Hope this helps.  Next up for me: finish the undergrad work first, then take this step.
Title: Re: What is the cheapest online law school?
Post by: Maintain FL 350 on May 26, 2015, 12:15:55 PM
I think one of the important things to consider about Oak Brook and NWCU is that they have consistently better pass rates than other DL schools. As you stated, some places will post a 50-100% pass rate but they only have one or two takers. The sample size is just too small to make any conclusions. I seem to remember that Oak Brook and NWCU usually have at least 10-20 takers and their pass rates are consistent (low compared to ABA, but better than average for DL).

As far as some other schools, here are two things I'd be VERY wary of:

1) Schools with consistently low pass rates (one good year does not make a trend).

2) Schools who have NO bar takers at all for several years. You can check the Calbar site to see the yearly results.