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Applying to Law School => Law School Admissions => Topic started by: Cvolz on June 14, 2012, 05:14:18 PM

Title: Chances of admission
Post by: Cvolz on June 14, 2012, 05:14:18 PM
I'm a rising junior at ASU...I am a triple major in math biochem and econ with a 3.9. I have taken a handful of practice LSATs and have done very well (low of 175 high of 180) I know that law school admissions is basically LSAt and gpa but I assume that other things must come into play at top 5 schools like HYSCC, which is what I'm interested in. So my question is this...what could I do to improve my chances of admission at elite schools in terms of soft factors and how does my triple major look considering how nontraditional that combo is. Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: fortook on June 17, 2012, 04:07:48 PM
a 3.9 triple major GPA and a 180 LSAT? Hmmmm
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: Cvolz on June 17, 2012, 11:09:28 PM
prolly lower...about 176 or 177 and im not trolling i really do want an honest opinion
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: FalconJimmy on June 18, 2012, 08:35:02 AM
prolly lower...about 176 or 177 and im not trolling i really do want an honest opinion

A leadership position is probably the only thing you could do to enhance your chances.  Your numbers are exceptional.  I'd say you're on your way.
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: fortook on June 18, 2012, 01:51:09 PM
oh only a 177? In that case....
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: Cvolz on June 18, 2012, 06:23:39 PM
but there must be no shortage of people with stats like that and better at top schools....getting some more leadership is a good idea for sure but do you know how they view multiple majors?
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: fortook on June 19, 2012, 12:53:30 AM
Has anyone ever gotten a 180 LSAT? Ever in history? They don't really care too much about anyone with less than 5 majors.
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: Cvolz on June 19, 2012, 10:47:15 AM
plenty of people do that well ever year....dont be bitter cuz just you screwed up....2.8 158?......niiiiice...bet harvard was begging for ya huh?
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: fortook on June 19, 2012, 12:31:29 PM
No one. I mean no one has scored a perfect 180 in the past 20 years, if ever.  Don't assume you know my position. I'm not "bitter" because of me. I'm "bitter" because you are full of shi.t.

I will say that I am both young enough to remember and old enough to recognize childhood optimism.  The world isn't like you think it will be. Not saying its bad, but you'll see. 

A sophomore scoring a 177-180? Dude. You're probably a kid speculating perfection in a world where its intentionally denied- LSAC does not want anyone scoring 180. If you score a 180, no law school in the U.S. or Canada will turn you down. If anything for the novelty of enrolling a record breaker.  So drop some of those majors, one or two- your call, and sit back, with a 180 you can get in anywhere regardless of you UGPA.

FYI, 158 isn't a bad score- top %20ish, maybe. If you had said you gotten a 158 or even a 168, I'd have found you slightly credible.  But a perfect score, nah. Not to mention there does not seem to be much thought to the relation of you choice of three majors.
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: Cvolz on June 19, 2012, 04:14:31 PM
A) youre just wrong about that....about 20-30 people every year get 180's....its not like the MCAT where a 45 only comes around once every few years....hell on a lot of tests you can get 3 wrong and still get a 180. Its not unheard of at all and as for scores like 176 and 177...number of people getting those scores is in the hundreds every year if not the thousands
B) I'm doing that many majors for two reasons....i needed to do somethin else if i was gonna have enough hours to maintain my scholarship for 4 years and because i am thinking about med school as well...idk which way i wanna go
C) This a LOGIC test my friend which means that age (especially one year) is going to have very little impact on score....and i am not speculating at all...i took three practice test and my scores in order were 178 175 and 180....i also timed the tests to make sure i wasnt taking too long

all this is to say....other things are probably necessary to get you into a top school and i was simply asking for the opinion of people who have experience with the application process at top schools. I really have no need for your comments.....i'll ask you if i ever need to drop my gpa a point and screw up the lsat but until then kindly get off my thread.

ps.....158 is not top 20%    http://www.alphascore.com/resources/lsat-score-conversion/
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: cerealkiller on June 19, 2012, 06:36:14 PM
Law schools look primarily to each applicant's hard factors (i.e., gpa and lsat score) to make their first cut. After that, it's all about each applicant's background, personal statement, and other soft factors. If your grades and scores are what you say they are, and I have no reason to doubt your veracity, then you should have no problem getting into any school that you happen to choose. If you can maintain your gpa and translate those practice lsat scores into an equally brilliant "official" score, the ball is in your court, my friend.

The addition of solid soft factors help, of course. So if you could somehow manage to cure cancer this summer, you'd be all set for HYS.  ;) Best of luck in your decision.
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: fortook on June 19, 2012, 08:52:24 PM
If you have no need for my suspicion or my comments, stop responding. Good God, man. I still think you're full of it.

Please name 1 single person who has gotten a 180? Just one. Ben Stein? In practical terms- it just doesn't happen. 170s, yes. 180 not so much.  You know logic is learned, right?  If you are being honest about your score, skip law school and start an LSAT test prep company.

You reference specifically states 158 is top %20ish percent (top %26.4). I don't know what to say to you about that.  I'll gloss over the fact that its a commercial ad and not trustworthy (meaning they probably change the numbers slightly to scare people in order to seem more needed, selling more services).

P.S. Did you score a perfect score on the MCAT too?
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: Cvolz on June 20, 2012, 12:29:17 AM
thanks cereal..appreciate it...do you know if top schools look for certain things in particular?

and fortook.. the reason im responding is its the thread i started and its kinda annoying having you around.... i cant name a single person whos gotten a 180 because i know exactly one person who is in law school right now but i do know there are a bunch of reported 180's on law school numbers that seem legit and if you actually try to research how common it is instead of just assuming its impossible cuz you cant do it yourself it seems to be between 20-30 a year...google it im sure youll find the same i did. everything ive posted is true as if it werent i would not be able to get feedback that would be helpful...i dont care if you believe me or not....i would ask, however, that if you feel the need to tell me im full of it in order to sleep better at night that you keep it to yourself...im sorry if this makes you insecure or inadequate but theres nothing i can do about that
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: fortook on June 20, 2012, 01:48:26 PM
You seem to associate criticism with jealousy. Brings about another hmmmmm. Not only are you awesome, but I want to be you.  You must meet many people who feel that way because you are so awesome.  If you as the chosen started a cult, I would follow you.

You are full of it.  Ah, now I can sleep at night.

The myth of the perfect LSAT is lore in the LSAT world.  The LSAC takes pride over the fact that there are never any perfect scores.  I did look at lawschoolnumbers and yes, there are a few 180s reported. Are they legit? Idk, but you're right it does seem so.

Why can't you understand this: if you do not want to speak to me, stop addressing me. Certainly stop addressing me with more effort that you do of those being nice to your likely pile of crap. Damn kid.

Signed, the one who wants to be you.
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: Cvolz on June 20, 2012, 03:03:46 PM
repeatedly calling someone a liar doesnt qualify as criticism. Shockingly i dont appreciate it and i really cant see any reason why someone would take this amount of time to repeatedly question the truthfulness of some random guys statements (using "facts" about 180's that im assuming you just made up cuz i cant find anywhere that says what youve been saying...do u have a link that supports you?) unless youre just really enjoying being a jerk or something about what im saying affects you in some specific way...so enlighten me as to why this is so important to you? im just random guy on the internet.... even if im completely full of it (which im not) why do care so much?
Title: Re: Chances of admission
Post by: Anti09 on June 21, 2012, 10:28:56 AM
If you have no need for my suspicion or my comments, stop responding. Good God, man. I still think you're full of it.

Please name 1 single person who has gotten a 180? Just one. Ben Stein? In practical terms- it just doesn't happen. 170s, yes. 180 not so much.  You know logic is learned, right?  If you are being honest about your score, skip law school and start an LSAT test prep company.

You reference specifically states 158 is top %20ish percent (top %26.4). I don't know what to say to you about that.  I'll gloss over the fact that its a commercial ad and not trustworthy (meaning they probably change the numbers slightly to scare people in order to seem more needed, selling more services).

P.S. Did you score a perfect score on the MCAT too?

Ok I think the OP is trolling too, but surely you can't be serious.  By definition, someone has to score a 180 on every test.  Also, Robin Singh (creator of Testmasters) holds the world record for the highest number of perfect LSAT scores (11 times).