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Law Students => Pursuing an LLM => Topic started by: sollicitus on April 10, 2012, 07:23:00 PM

Title: LLM or MBA?
Post by: sollicitus on April 10, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
Which is worth enrolling in more, an MBA or an LLM? (assuming you already have a JD or are jointly enrolled) and why?
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: legalpractitioner on April 17, 2012, 08:23:12 PM
MBA would not be worth the extra effort if you are going to practice law.  The LLM is of dubious value as well since the JD is considered the highest professional degree in law.
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: sollicitus on April 18, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
MBA would not be worth the extra effort if you are going to practice law.  The LLM is of dubious value as well since the JD is considered the highest professional degree in law.

how can it be the highest if there is two degrees about it?

But that being said, both are essentially useless then?
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: legalpractitioner on April 23, 2012, 07:20:15 AM
JD is the highest US professional degree in law, there is a LLM  for foreign law school graudates that permits them to take the bar.  The other LLMs are quicky specialty degrees like tax.  The highest academic degree would be the equivalent to a PhD in Law or a foreign LLD but those are not on a professional track. 
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: IrrX on April 23, 2012, 01:50:04 PM
Don't forget the SJD.
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: sollicitus on April 23, 2012, 06:06:42 PM
Don't forget the SJD.

Thats the one I was thinking of. Not may places offer it, but you'd think that would look good on a resume. Heck even if the JD was a CBE degree if the SJD was ABA that would still look badass.
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: legalpractitioner on April 23, 2012, 06:49:12 PM
SJD is an academic degree  Most law school faculty have JDs.
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: Maintain FL 350 on April 24, 2012, 10:52:41 AM
For the vast majority of people neither degree is worth the extra student loan debt. If your goal is to practice law the MBA will not give you an advantage because law firms are hiring you to be a business administrator (at least not straight out of law school). LL.Ms are rarely required and often not even preferred. In most cases an LL.M is a "soft factor" at best.

The exceptions are LL.Ms in Tax or Environmental/Natural Resources Law. For most students who are pondering a random LL.M, however, the expenditure will likely not result in increased earning potential. For those who don't believe me, scrool through the attorney profiles for any firm, large or small, and see how many non-tax/non-environmental LL.Ms you spot.

The SJD is a purely academic degree and would make sense if your goal was to become a professor. If your JD was from  non-ABA or non-elite ABA schoolhowever, I think you'd probably have a tough time getting into one of the better recognized SJD programs. Academic jobs are extremely competitive, and even small, local law schools often hire people with pretty impressive resumes.   

Bottom line: for most jobs the JD is sufficient, and an MBA/LL.M/SJD will not really help.
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: Maintain FL 350 on April 24, 2012, 11:00:12 AM
Sorry for all the typos. Meant to say "law firms are NOT hiring you to be a business administrator."
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: sollicitus on April 24, 2012, 12:37:22 PM
SJD is an academic degree  Most law school faculty have JDs.

any lawschool that does not offer a JD is not an ABA law school.

As for the SJD it is offered by some of the more respected law schools which as far as I can tell require you already have a JD LLM and practicing experience before you can enroll.

Are any non license required degrees egostrokes? Well, yeah, duh.
Dosn't mean it dosn't make the ego feel good to stroke it though.  ;D
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: fortook on May 26, 2012, 02:33:55 PM
No one mentioned that the only way to answer this depends on your individual goals.  Therefore, there is no answer.

As always: anything that floats is a witch.  A duck floats.  Therefore, a duck is a witch. 
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: Julie Fern on May 30, 2012, 12:52:14 PM
SJD is an academic degree  Most law school faculty have JDs.

any lawschool that does not offer a JD is not an ABA law school.

As for the SJD it is offered by some of the more respected law schools which as far as I can tell require you already have a JD LLM and practicing experience before you can enroll.

Are any non license required degrees egostrokes? Well, yeah, duh.
Dosn't mean it dosn't make the ego feel good to stroke it though.  ;D

julie sure you do lots stroking.  no woman going get within mile you.
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: Julie Fern on May 30, 2012, 12:53:09 PM
No one mentioned that the only way to answer this depends on your individual goals.  Therefore, there is no answer.

As always: anything that floats is a witch.  A duck floats.  Therefore, a duck is a witch.

you got problem with that?

middle ages had lot offer.
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: fortook on May 31, 2012, 09:59:50 AM
Goats float?
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: Julie Fern on June 03, 2012, 08:23:19 AM
only if witches.

or filled with semen from star wars character.
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: fortook on June 03, 2012, 10:23:43 AM
Goats filled with seamen from Star Wars? Too far, even for me.

They must be witches.
Title: Re: LLM or MBA?
Post by: FalconJimmy on June 03, 2012, 12:40:14 PM
Which is worth enrolling in more, an MBA or an LLM? (assuming you already have a JD or are jointly enrolled) and why?

I will, inadvertently, be a JD/MBA if I ever finish law school.  I got my MBA a long time ago.

Probably the best quote I ever heard about JD/MBA is that a better name for it would be "dumb and dumber".

I suppose, somewhere, there are additional opportunties available if you have a JD/MBA versus merely having a JD.  I will say I don't know of a single one and that it may long odds to find one.

When you say LLM, do you mean an LLM in Tax or something else?  LLM in Tax is worthwhile.  LLM in nearly anything else seems pretty pointless, but then that's just the opinion of a barely 2L.