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Law Students => Bar Exam Preparation => Topic started by: ionisnotme on December 06, 2010, 03:16:15 PM

Title: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: ionisnotme on December 06, 2010, 03:16:15 PM
I've heard good and bad things. I'm curious for anyone whether or not they passed or failed to rate their experiences.
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: BikePilot on December 06, 2010, 08:09:55 PM
I passed, but thought barbri was quite disappointing.  Poorly organized and written materials, they totally missed what would be on the actual bar (they said don't worry about y, study for x and didn't mention z at all - the bar was mostly y and z) and poor quality lectures that were more gimmicky than substantive. Thankfully, the standards for passing are pretty low and most other takers were equally badly prepared.
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: anonomous on December 07, 2010, 10:40:09 AM
If I had to do it over again, I would buy the books and study for it myself.  I would focus mostly on the outline books and condense it all summer.  I would also do the practice problems they provided.  The class itself was a waste of money, just buy the books. 

I did pass btw, but the poster above me is VERY right about the y and z being the focus.  That is especially true for the multi-state MC. 
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: ionisnotme on December 08, 2010, 12:16:33 PM
When did you guys both take it. Did the lectures help for any subject you didn't remember well from law school?
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: BikePilot on December 20, 2010, 12:42:24 PM
I took it this past summer.  Lectures seemed a waste to me regardless of prior experience with the subject.  The books generally covered the same material in a more concise manner.  If you are one for catch-phrases, bad pop-culture jokes and songs maybe they are useful.  I just wanted to learn the crap in as little time as possible.  I listened to most of the lectures at 1.5 speed and found that a great improvement.
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: caflowers87 on February 21, 2011, 10:38:37 PM
I am taking the bar next summer and have decided to take Kaplan... The bar is at the end of July and I am getting married at end of May, which means I have from June 4th -July 28 to study. My question is. If I choose to do the complete Kaplan program, does the program have a definite start and finish time? Can I start at beginning of June and still finish the program? If I go completely online can I watch lectures as many times as I want?
I have emailed Kaplan but have yet to recieve a response. Somebody who has done the Kaplan Complete Program online please fill me in
Thanks
Chris Flowers
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: lawstudent2011 on February 21, 2011, 10:57:50 PM
You mention others poor study skills. Isn't the bar a minimum standard test? I thought the curve had nothing to do with it.


I passed, but thought barbri was quite disappointing.  Poorly organized and written materials, they totally missed what would be on the actual bar (they said don't worry about y, study for x and didn't mention z at all - the bar was mostly y and z) and poor quality lectures that were more gimmicky than substantive. Thankfully, the standards for passing are pretty low and most other takers were equally badly prepared.
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: lawstudent2011 on February 21, 2011, 10:58:46 PM
interesting fact, Kaplan bought Barbri. It's the difference between shopping at Kmart or Sears now.

I am taking the bar next summer and have decided to take Kaplan... The bar is at the end of July and I am getting married at end of May, which means I have from June 4th -July 28 to study. My question is. If I choose to do the complete Kaplan program, does the program have a definite start and finish time? Can I start at beginning of June and still finish the program? If I go completely online can I watch lectures as many times as I want?
I have emailed Kaplan but have yet to recieve a response. Somebody who has done the Kaplan Complete Program online please fill me in
Thanks
Chris Flowers
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: MikePing on February 22, 2011, 01:39:06 PM
I had a good experience with Barbri, but I used another course to supplement.  Bar exams are not curved, but if 75% take Barbri and respond to a certain question in a certain way, it is unlikely that the examiners are going to ignore the response.  In the bar exam, I would rather be with the pack than right. 
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: lawstudent2011 on February 22, 2011, 07:29:17 PM
you think that the bar examiners would make a wrong question correct just because people marked it that way? ???

I had a good experience with Barbri, but I used another course to supplement.  Bar exams are not curved, but if 75% take Barbri and respond to a certain question in a certain way, it is unlikely that the examiners are going to ignore the response.  In the bar exam, I would rather be with the pack than right.
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: MikePing on February 23, 2011, 10:56:52 AM
I dont think they will make a "wrong" answer correct based on the response. 

Typically the grading on these essays is done with an answer key that gives a certain amount of points for each point on the key.  I think that if most people  answer in a way that is correct, but not what the examiners initially expected, the key would change and the majority answer is going to score sufficiently. 

More to the point, though, Barbri is going to give you certain buzz words to use.   They may not necessarily be the words that I would choose, but using them will put you with the pack and will usually track that answer key.  That's what I meant by saying that I would rather be with the group than right. 
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: Specks on June 09, 2011, 09:44:50 PM
I'm doing barbri right now and a lot of the stuff they're making  me do seems like a waste of time. What would you guys have done differently other than skipping lecture? Also, how much time did you guys devote to each aspect of the study?
Title: Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
Post by: jack24 on June 09, 2011, 11:10:12 PM
I have the same questions as Specks.
I'm just a little bit of courage away from quitting on all of the lectures.  I think I'll make flash cards and memorize all of the elements and just do practice problems.  (Flash cards work particularly well for me)
If anybody thinks that's a stupid idea, I'd love to hear it now.