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Title: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 15, 2010, 08:21:20 AM
Hi everyone, I will be starting @Taft law school in a few weeks , had previously attended Concord . Does anyone have any information on Taft and what to expect , your experiences at either school etc. I was wondering about the books for Taft as I will soon be needing them. Also and information on Sum & substance audio cd's you have tried Finz or other ?? Thanks
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: cooleylawstudent on June 15, 2010, 09:22:53 AM
did your credits transfer? Have you taken the fybx yet?
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 15, 2010, 12:37:58 PM
 No credit could be given being i failed contracts with a D+ criminal B- Torts B-
so I am having to start all over what a bummer ........Contracts is hard for me and MCQ's horrible any suggestions help needed please share . Thanks
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: cooleylawstudent on June 15, 2010, 07:58:36 PM
How is that failing? Wouldnt that still put you above a 2.0? That dosnt even sound like academic probation. Are you telling me that they kick you out if you get one D?   

Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 16, 2010, 02:58:16 AM
Yes it is true, according to the cal-bar rules you must have a C- in all 3 subjects to qualify for the baby bar or move forward to 2 L at Concord so I was dismissed b/c of contracts D+ grade . I have been horrified about this . I had a choice transfere to the ejd program and pay or wait to be readmitted to school after sitting out for a year . Since I have no money to pay I had no choice but go some where else  .what school do you attend??
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: cooleylawstudent on June 16, 2010, 09:47:47 AM
How can you go somewhere else if you have no money? I go to cooley. You might want to consider an on campus program. Online your D was probally equal to a B on campus due to curve grading. A 70% on campus is often an A.

CBE has a lot of approved on campus part time schools. The CBE "accredited"(a step up) ones dont even have to sit the FYBX.
ABA is even more flexible. Have you considered going to an ABA school? If you have at least an associates degree you can go to Cooley(where I go) If you want to stay in CA there are a lot there too.

Why the online way? What town are you in?


Yes it is true, according to the cal-bar rules you must have a C- in all 3 subjects to qualify for the baby bar or move forward to 2 L at Concord so I was dismissed b/c of contracts D+ grade . I have been horrified about this . I had a choice transfere to the ejd program and pay or wait to be readmitted to school after sitting out for a year . Since I have no money to pay I had no choice but go some where else  .what school do you attend??
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 16, 2010, 09:59:39 AM
I live in Northern Louisiana and to attend Lawschool here they are all down south5 hours away snd I have a 14 yr old , not like I could leave and attend school.I really appreciate your reply. I chose online for the same reason my child . My grades mostly were 65, 70, 75 on essays the MCQ's is where I have trouble. Before attending Concord my GPA was 3.7 after concord that quickly went to c's &d's . I know it's because of not being focused and being able to study because of working , I just couldn't keep up . where is this school located your talking about? I plan to check it out.How do you deal with your classes , what study aids do you use ? Fenz, sum & substance cd's if so which ones? Just so you know I plan to get back in the game and study like I should have to learn this stuff.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: cooleylawstudent on June 16, 2010, 04:46:13 PM
How is an online JD anygood to you then? You can't practice in your state with it. Do you plan to move to CA after graduation?

If you don't then its useless. If you do, you still have to go out there after one year to take the FYBX in person.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 16, 2010, 06:30:18 PM
I have family in Ca , I have not decided on moving at this point . I could move there easily if I wanted to. I do know that I could practice at the federal level which I am interested in anyway,I know that online has a lot of what if''s but I will face things as they come up. For now I just want to get my JD and go from there . If there was a local law school I would not be online and having to deal with any of this .Now the Baby bar.hum ..........it should hopefully be ok so long as I am ready , which I feel I will be . :)
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: cooleylawstudent on June 16, 2010, 08:34:01 PM
The school that I was talking about is in Michigan(cooley) but they should have an ABA one near you too. Do you only have an AA or a full BA?
Have you looked around your area?
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 16, 2010, 10:21:06 PM
Hey, actually I have both degree's , I told you I mean business when it comes to school. I graduated in 06 with my AA and 2008 with my Ba at Kaplan university.Then went to concord . what about you? what year are you in ?? I love debating and arguing both sides of a case,. I do ok in everything but Contracts LOL.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 17, 2010, 12:23:55 PM
Thanks for the reply , for now I plan to get through 1L and pass the baby bar and go from there . My daughter would not want to move and leave all of her friends .I definately would not pack up & move , leave my job and have nothing planned ahead . Having family in Ca is fine but this is something I alone have to do and if I decided to move I would for sure have a job in place before making a move. Right now I am looking forward to beating 1L and I have been compiling MBE questions of a pattern that were wrong and studying to reasonings and frequency of such questions and what is being asked on MCQ's because obviosly there is a trick to the trick questions and it's all about how to answer MBE's and what the call of the question really is asking .How has your experirnce been so far?? any tips on MBE's
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: bigs5068 on June 17, 2010, 01:30:52 PM
Well that is the thing I think is a benefit of going to an on-campus school there are numerous books I have access to for free that have outlines, multiple choice questions on them. Gilberts, BarBri, Q & A those questions/outlines are very helpful.

There is also something called CaliLessons which I find extremely helpful to use. They give you a detailed lesson for each sub-topic in  each subject. So for example in regards to contracts there is a whole interactive lesson regarding the statute of frauds, then parol evidence, numerous ones regarding consideration and offer/acceptance. I found those incredibly helpful and I got an A in contracts both times.

There is also a website that is free called ecasebriefs.com and you can get about 100 free multiple choice questions from it and they have pretty decent sample outlines.

I know a lot of students also signed up for BarBri and they have lots of interactive questions, but I didn't sign up for it yet.

You may already about all of that stuff, but I didn't until about halfway through first semester and they helped me tremendously.

My experience has been awesome so far and I love my school. I really think if you end up passing the California Bar there are opportunities out there it is a massive state and if you pass the bar here you will probably be able to find something somewhere regardless of where you went. There was just an article about a guy who never graduated from College let alone law school who passed the California Bar and has his own law firm.

Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 17, 2010, 04:26:16 PM
Wow, that is awsome have you ever tried barreviewcafe.com that have multiple choice questions as well. I tried adaptabar, PMBR cd's you also might want to check out this site http://www.all4jds.com
they have awsome information but you have to be a member to view . I have learned so much from that site in the last few days than I have all year.I wish yo could locate the article I would love to read that. How do you do on MCQ's ??TTL.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: bigs5068 on June 17, 2010, 04:48:34 PM
http://becomingalawyerwithoutlawschool.blogspot.com/ this is not the article I saw, but these are people who never went to college and are lawyers now. I somehow do very well on all multiple choice in every class particularly contracts & property. I really think Cali Lessons helped me the most and E-Case Briefs is an awesome tool to help you understand whatever case you are reading.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: cooleylawstudent on June 17, 2010, 08:17:54 PM
You may not want to expect to be able to transfer to many on campus schools after takeing concord online. CBE approved may take it but not CBE accredited probally and for sure not ABA.

What area in CA would you move to with family? There may be on campus CBE approved in that area.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: bigs5068 on June 17, 2010, 10:34:45 PM
I did just realize also since you do struggle with MC Louisiaina is the only State Bar that does not have Multiple Choice Questions on it and you might be able to advocate to the Bar to do something like the office study program and take the bar and not have to deal with Multiple Choice at all. It is just an obscure thought, but I remembered that Lousiina is the only Civil Law state and there is no Multiple Choice for that bar and if you pass it that would be awesome.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 17, 2010, 10:49:42 PM
Hi , I have not thought about that part before but according to the ABA rules for louisiana you must have graduated for an ABA law school to even sit for the bar , having said that I will check to see if there may be another way like California that does Apprentice or office study ....... not holding out for that too much since there are so many other rules .If I could take the bar in Louisiana that  would be awsome because I do good  on Essays .what year are you in btw???
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: bigs5068 on June 18, 2010, 07:52:09 PM
I am going into my second year, but I am taking evidence right now over summer. Another cool thing about California I don't know if other states do this, but if you have or are currently enrolled evidence and Civil Procedure you can make court appearances if you have a supervising attorney.  If you pass the baby bar I think you have the same right as well.  It is pretty cool that after one year of law school I get to appear in court and argue motions. They don't give me anything to crazy, but it is still pretty cool to do it after only one year of law school.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 18, 2010, 10:40:50 PM
That is great what school do you attend???How is evidence going. I haven't taken that yet but have experirnce with the MCQ's . Do you belong to a study group? Have you taken the FYSLX yet and if so how did you do?
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: cooleylawstudent on June 19, 2010, 09:14:49 PM
Bigs is in an ABA school. You could represent clients under an attorney supervision, but would have to be in CA to do so.
That being said, a local firm still may give you paralegal duties in your current state, and those are about equal to a legal intern in many ways.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: ladylawyer065 on June 20, 2010, 04:26:30 PM
Hi, I love learning law , not surprized at anything. I have learned from my other school that sometimes it's who ya know that gets ya in the door. Sad but true. I had fellow students  that started same as me that had someone mentor them and they would brag that others like me wanted to join their little group of 6 . that sad part is not realizing that they are getting help just like the next person wants....well I have never asked and wish them the best. Having said that I would help anyone that asked for help. I know there are ways to make all of this easy , sorta like a short cut to the rule memorization,LOL But any way You're right some may disagree with you , I would not let it bother me at all ....................
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: cooleylawstudent on June 20, 2010, 04:28:54 PM
I'm starting my 2L in the fall, but if you ever need advice on a specific course PM me. Its not the same school, but the same law.

Hi, I love learning law , not surprized at anything. I have learned from my other school that sometimes it's who ya know that gets ya in the door. Sad but true. I had fellow students  that started same as me that had someone mentor them and they would brag that others like me wanted to join their little group of 6 . that sad part is not realizing that they are getting help just like the next person wants....well I have never asked and wish them the best. Having said that I would help anyone that asked for help. I know there are ways to make all of this easy , sorta like a short cut to the rule memorization,LOL But any way You're right some may disagree with you , I would not let it bother me at all ....................
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: calvinexpress on June 29, 2010, 11:01:12 AM
Hi everyone, I will be starting @Taft law school in a few weeks , had previously attended Concord . Does anyone have any information on Taft and what to expect , your experiences at either school etc. I was wondering about the books for Taft as I will soon be needing them. Also and information on Sum & substance audio cd's you have tried Finz or other ?? Thanks

So the lesson to be learned here is, "the most expensive law school [Concord] is NOT the best law school."
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: cooleylawstudent on June 29, 2010, 04:50:13 PM
how is that the lesson?

Hi everyone, I will be starting @Taft law school in a few weeks , had previously attended Concord . Does anyone have any information on Taft and what to expect , your experiences at either school etc. I was wondering about the books for Taft as I will soon be needing them. Also and information on Sum & substance audio cd's you have tried Finz or other ?? Thanks

So the lesson to be learned here is, "the most expensive law school [Concord] is NOT the best law school."
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: Cicero on June 29, 2010, 10:51:57 PM
If you have at least an associates degree you can go to Cooley(where I go) If you want to stay in CA there are a lot there too.

I know I'm a little behind on this thread, but I was shocked when I read the above statement. I didn't realize that a LS would admit people with only an AA into a JD program. Is that common or specific to Cooley?
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: cooleylawstudent on June 29, 2010, 11:44:07 PM
It depends on state law for "pre-legal education" michigan and california both allow it.
In fact in California you don't even need any college at all before law school if you pass a few extra tests to prove your ready(the GED of college)


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to beginning law study by attaining a score of 50 or higher on the following College-Level
Examination Program (CLEP) examinations, which are administered by the College Board:
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program must have the College Board send official score reports to the State Bar’s Office of
Admissions in Los Angeles; 1149 S. Hill Street; Los Angeles, CA 90015-2299. The score
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If you have at least an associates degree you can go to Cooley(where I go) If you want to stay in CA there are a lot there too.

I know I'm a little behind on this thread, but I was shocked when I read the above statement. I didn't realize that a LS would admit people with only an AA into a JD program. Is that common or specific to Cooley?
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: binaful on July 19, 2010, 07:50:28 AM
Hi, Ladylawyer:

You mentioned that you plan to practice law at the Federal level in your state (GA).  Are you sure you can do that?  I'm just finishing my first year at Concord (most likely will drop out since I think the quality of the program is dreadful and I don't want to graduate a school with the same accreditation as the Art Instruction School, but that's another thread).  They indicated to me that I could indeed practice Federal law here in NY. However, once I checked here, the Bar made it very clear that I could *not* practice law before the Federal Bar here unless I was a member in good standing with the NYS Bar.  If you've already done the legwork and have confirmed, that's great. But just be 100% sure that you can practice in GA before you go ahead and complete your studies.

Someone else mentioned that you can transfer to an ABA school from an online school. It is my understanding that it is very difficult to do so,  if not impossible.

Whatever you choose, I wish you good luck in your endeavors.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: passaroa25 on July 19, 2010, 01:13:28 PM
Before anyone practices on a federal level, he/she needs to be a member of a state bar.  The reason why online graduates can practice on a federal level is because he/she has passed the California bar exam.  Most ABA law schools do not even consider online law school work as transfer material.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: exspes on July 19, 2010, 08:28:54 PM
So if someone took that CA bar as an online grad, they could live fulltime in Boston and never sit the bar at all out there and practice in ANY federal court in ANY state that way? If so, dosn't that mean that online grads can practice in ALL states(just limits the number of courts per state they can do so with)?
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: binaful on July 20, 2010, 04:11:45 AM
In theory, yes; in practice, not always.  Being a member in good standing of the CA Bar would make you eligible to practice at a federal level, but most states will require you to be a member of their bar before being allowed to practice Federal law  in that state.  NY, CT, NJ, PA, for instance, have that requirement.  And these states do not allow non-ABA grads to sit for their exams straight-away, so it becomes an issue for online grads to practice Fed. law simply with a CA ticket. 

That was my original plan but it seems to be much more difficult to achieve than what the school had indicated.   
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: exspes on July 20, 2010, 09:31:09 AM
Wouldn't it be against civil procedure for a state to try to regulate and control the federal courts?
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: betazed on August 09, 2010, 07:49:28 AM
Each Federal Court regulates its own admissions.

Most (but not all) require an attorney to first be admitted in the state in which the Federal Court is located.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: calgal27 on August 19, 2010, 08:45:33 AM
I started Taft last September.  It was a horrible experience. When you would turn in a case brief, the instructors response always sounded scripted.  I mean, I would get 3 out of 4 on the brief, but no specific reasons as to why.  3/4 sounds good but that is 75%. 

I also had issues when I withdrew and how much money I actually owed the school.  They called me to say that I owed $700+ dollars for tuition (I had federal aid) but then turn around and send me a bill for $1595!!  I called for an explanation and the financial aid gal (after much prodding) finally sent me the papers on how they came up with that number.  I wasn't enrolled more than 6 weeks, but ended up paying a lot to withdrawal.

I am going to look at Northwestern as now they have "real time" videoconferencing which was not an options a few years ago.  I am also looking at American Heritage.  Real time chats and video conferencing is going to make the difference in understanding the material.  I am not sure Taft has that now, but if they do, then more power to them.  It is just not worth their high tuition to get the same thing you can get for much less at Northwestern or American Heritage. 

I will be done with my Master's Degree in Law & Public Policy in October.  I should have finished that before trying Taft. 

Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: passaroa25 on August 19, 2010, 12:25:36 PM
I'm done with the California Bar route.  The flight, hotel and re-exam fees amount to more than I have.  I am currently studying to be a paralegal (for now).  But, you might want to check out the University of Honolulu.  It is also registered with the California Bar and is about the cheapest of them all.  And, you get the same product that you would get from the other schools.  The California School of Law has video conferencing as well.  You have to take the FYLSE regardless which school you attend.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: sonofapickle on August 23, 2010, 01:17:50 PM
Taft online law school? Wow, that is hugely funny. Good luck with printing your online diploma out over the internet. Online school is not a real school.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: sonofapickle on August 23, 2010, 02:27:38 PM
With a 4.0UGPA, summa cum laude, a mind ready to tackle any test, good preparation for the fall LSAT, I am a shoe-in for any of the top 3 law schools. Although on here where I tend to be more laid-back with my writing style, grammar, spelling, etc..., on my personal statement which was originally 4k words in length, but now cut down to 1500 words, I wrote flawlessly. It was original and creative. I had my English professor proof read it before actually finalizing it. If I do get into Harvard or Yale, I will turn down the job I was offered a month ago and immediately go to the Ivy League. So, despite your obvious sarcasm and snide remarks, bigs, I will get into any school I want to. You need to tone it down a bit, you are out of line.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: passaroa25 on August 24, 2010, 12:05:30 PM
Since the student does the learning, an online school is just as "real" as any brick and mortar school.  Also, so many companies, government agencies, and top universities offer courses and even entire degree programs online.  Wake up!!  This is the 21st century.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: Denny Shore on August 25, 2010, 08:50:11 AM
With a 4.0UGPA, summa cum laude, a mind ready to tackle any test, good preparation for the fall LSAT, I am a shoe-in for any of the top 3 law schools. Although on here where I tend to be more laid-back with my writing style, grammar, spelling, etc..., on my personal statement which was originally 4k words in length, but now cut down to 1500 words, I wrote flawlessly. It was original and creative. I had my English professor proof read it before actually finalizing it. If I do get into Harvard or Yale, I will turn down the job I was offered a month ago and immediately go to the Ivy League. So, despite your obvious sarcasm and snide remarks, bigs, I will get into any school I want to. You need to tone it down a bit, you are out of line.

Until you actually take the LSAT and get your score, you are not guaranteed anything.  YOU are out of line.  There is no such thing as a "shoe in" for any of the top 3 law schools.  Unless, of course, you have family members on the admissions committees there.  The thing is, you don't know what your LSAT score is.  You probably are also unaware that HLS does interviews.  Based on your posts, you may wish to tone down your arrogance in said interviews.  I know a guy who had  4.0 UGPA that didn't get in, so I called him to talk about it.  He believes that there were a few things that contributed to his not being admitted.  First of all, he blew the interviews.  He talked to much and gave too much attitude.  Secondly, his undergrad course history wasn't what they wanted either.  He took too many classes unrelated to law.  Thirdly, HLS looked into his High School grades and extra-curricular activities.  His grades in high school were good, but not great, and all he did was football - they wanted to see debate team or other intellectual pursuits.
They don't care that you think your mind is ready to take tests or that you think your LSAT prep was awesome either.  Only a dipstick with an undergrad who isn't prepared for law school talks like you.  More arrogance.  HLS is looking for the best of the best, not some guy with a perfect GPA who thinks he is the best and is happy to brag about it to everyone.
Furthermore, while I have substantive reasons that I believe online law school represents a questionable education, your post was baseless and had no substance (much like the rest of the posts you have placed on these boards), further indicating that you are in fact nothing more than a troll.
Take the LSAT and apply to some schools before you talk trash about other people, their intelligence, and your own greatness.  People like you embarrass those of use who intend on and are on the path towards law school.  One day, you might end up being one of the lawyers that disgraces our profession and reinforces the public's belief that lawyers are arrogant a-holes that suck as human beings and force their egos on everyone around them.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: sonofapickle on August 25, 2010, 09:24:09 AM
My undergrad course major consists of philosophy, international studies, and finance. I am a triple major and not some kid with just a Liberal Arts degree. I have to travel to a different school campus to do the courses in finance for the degree but the philosophy and international studies takes place at my main campus. Other than that, we have a debate-like team that participates in competitions around the state in competitions. It is called, "mock-court," and so far, I have been in the top percent in the state competition. I also take time out of my schedule to volunteer even though I do not have to take time out of my busy life to help people. Despite what you may believe due to my posts, I am not a cruel or callous person looking out for himself, I do in fact, help people whenever I can and as much as I can.

AS for interviews, I wouldn't have gotten an internship and a job offer for a high paying salary once I graduate if I was (1), stupid, (2) severely arrogant to the point of no-one liking me, and (3) bad at interviews. I can handle an HLS interview and for the record, I had a 4.0 (or all A's) since I began school and High School is no exception to that fact.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: Denny Shore on August 25, 2010, 10:04:20 AM
AS for interviews, I wouldn't have gotten an internship and a job offer for a high paying salary once I graduate if I was (1), stupid, (2) severely arrogant to the point of no-one liking me, and (3) bad at interviews. I can handle an HLS interview and for the record, I had a 4.0 (or all A's) since I began school and High School is no exception to that fact.

Uh-huh.  You may have gotten that job because its the same company your daddy works for/owns.
Mock-court?  Interesting.  Nothing like law school, or even like law school mock trial, but interesting.  Did you have to write an appellate brief conforming to the Supreme Court Rules as well, or is this the mock court where they do the research, help you synthesize your argument and the applicable law, then coach you on argument construction?  Spare me the BS.  Mock Court is valuable experience, but it does not compare to actual law school. 
Guess what?  I got a high paying job out of undergrad too.  I didn't have straight A's (or a rich daddy who could pull strings and get me a job).  When do you plan on graduating?  This job is guaranteed?  Maybe you should be smart and take it.  The opportunity isn't likely to present itself again and chances are, you will have a lot of personal problems in law school.  ESPECIALLY if you plan on bringing your misplaced arrogance and false wisdom with you....  As a side note, there is an enormous difference between getting a job offer by pretending to be likable, humble, and smart and keeping your job once they figure out who you really are.
As I've said many times already, you know nothing.  You have zero life experience.  Your parents have been coddling you and blowing so much smoke up your ass that you honestly believe your own BS.  You are a typical undergrad student who is awaiting his degree, albeit you claim to have extraordinary grades. 
The real world is coming at you, and hard.  Continue on your path and you are in for some serious pain.  Change your attitude.  Understand now, before it is too late, that humility is going to take you much further than arrogance.  Most importantly, stop pretending you know all about law school and intentionally misleading people as to what life is all about.  Law school is tough.  You aren't yet.  There are no guarantees in life.  The "job" offer you have could disappear and it is likely that you will be disappointed to learn that you cannot get into one of the top 3 law schools in the country because, and I know this may seem hard to believe, there is always going to be someone with a better application than you or better connections.
Reality check - grow up a little before pretending to be superior to others.  Right now, you don't hold a bachelors degree, making you less qualified to give advice to law students than pretty much everyone else on these boards.  You are currently less educated than a guy who graduated with a 2.0 average.  Remember that when giving your less than sage advice and commentary.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: Swede1 on September 25, 2010, 11:59:38 AM
@sonofapickle.  Your obvious maturity level is what's the most impressive (before you pat yourself on the back, that was sarcasm). There is a HUGE distance between self confidence and arrogance. And in every one of your posts you cleared that distance easily. Once you make it obvious that you try to make yourself look good by making other people look (or at least feel) bad, then any substance you might bring to a discussion is void. 
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: calvinexpress on November 12, 2011, 10:27:59 PM
Most ABA law schools do not even consider online law school work as transfer material.

Your statement is false. A law student can transfer up to 12 credits from a non ABA law school, including distance education and/or expirential learning credits.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: calvinexpress on November 12, 2011, 11:26:16 PM
Hi everyone, I will be starting @Taft law school in a few weeks , had previously attended Concord . Does anyone have any information on Taft and what to expect , your experiences at either school etc. I was wondering about the books for Taft as I will soon be needing them. Also and information on Sum & substance audio cd's you have tried Finz or other ?? Thanks

You posted this original post in June 2010. It has been a year and a half since you posted. You should of taken the baby bar by now. How is your online law studies coming along? Are you still with Taft? If not, can you share with us prospective online school students the good and the bad? Thank you.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: FalconJimmy on November 13, 2011, 07:36:04 AM
Your statement is false. A law student can transfer up to 12 credits from a non ABA law school, including distance education and/or expirential learning credits.

Actually, his statement is true.  Most ABA law schools will not accept transfer from a non-ABA law school.  This came up on another thread.  After a little scrounging, all I could find was about 3 of the lowest-ranked ABA schools in the country that would accept non-ABA credits.  Figure my search wasn't completely exhaustive, but even if there were 10 or 20, that's a very, very small percentage of all ABA law schools in the country.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: calvinexpress on November 13, 2011, 02:12:58 PM
Your statement is false. A law student can transfer up to 12 credits from a non ABA law school, including distance education and/or expirential learning credits.

Actually, his statement is true.  Most ABA law schools will not accept transfer from a non-ABA law school.  This came up on another thread.  After a little scrounging, all I could find was about 3 of the lowest-ranked ABA schools in the country that would accept non-ABA credits.  Figure my search wasn't completely exhaustive, but even if there were 10 or 20, that's a very, very small percentage of all ABA law schools in the country.

The statement is false. ALL ABA approved law schools legally have to accept up to 12 credits from non ABA law schools, including unaccredited online law schools. It is the law, and it is is writing.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: FalconJimmy on November 13, 2011, 03:35:19 PM
The statement is false. ALL ABA approved law schools legally have to accept up to 12 credits from non ABA law schools, including unaccredited online law schools. It is the law, and it is is writing.

Interesting.  Since it's spelled out so clearly, perhaps you could guide us to this law since conveniently, this law happens to be in writing.

I can only presume that you are referring to the ABA's standard 306, which does not say what you think it says.

I was going to go into what standard 306 says, but to be blunt, I need to remind myself of a parable about trying to teach a pig to sing.

Best of luck to you.  To anybody reading this:  do not pay any attention to Calvin.  If you try to transfer into an ABA accredited school with non-ABA accredited credits, there are very, very few schools in the country that accept them.  The best thing to do is visit the web-site of the school you are considering and check out their admissions policies.  Chances are they say something like this:

http://www.law.berkeley.edu/43.htm

Transfer Students

A law student who has completed one year at another law school may apply for transfer status to enter the second-year class at Berkeley Law if:
•Before legal study, a bachelor's degree or the equivalent was awarded by an approved college or university;
•The first-year curriculum has been completed in a full-time program at a law school that is approved by the American Bar Association;
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: calvinexpress on November 13, 2011, 05:11:18 PM
This thread was hijacked by people that hate online law school students because we figured out a way to get a legal education for less and without physically attending. They are just jealous and hateful because they are over $100,000.00 in debt and most of them failed their bar.

It is true, not only can you tranfer up to 12 credits from an unaccredited law school, but you can also transfer in experiential learning credits.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: FalconJimmy on November 13, 2011, 05:43:44 PM
This thread was hijacked by people that hate online law school students because we figured out a way to get a legal education for less and without physically attending. They are just jealous and hateful because they are over $100,000.00 in debt and most of them failed their bar.

It is true, not only can you tranfer up to 12 credits from an unaccredited law school, but you can also transfer in experiential learning credits.

Waiting for you to cite the law you're talking about.

Waiting...
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: calvinexpress on November 13, 2011, 07:09:53 PM
This thread was hijacked by people that hate online law school students because we figured out a way to get a legal education for less and without physically attending. They are just jealous and hateful because they are over $100,000.00 in debt and most of them failed their bar.

It is true, not only can you tranfer up to 12 credits from an unaccredited law school, but you can also transfer in experiential learning credits.

Waiting for you to cite the law you're talking about.

Waiting...

Do your own research you lazy piece of __________.
I'm not your mother, and you would make a crap lawyer if you can't find the information.
Attorney's charge for their time to do research and I'm not giving you free information.
Search it yourself. I have the knowledge, and I'm not giving it to you.
Go pay an attorney to research for you.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: FalconJimmy on November 13, 2011, 09:44:23 PM
Thought so.  You got nothing.  Nice rant, though.  I'm sure everybody is convinced that you really do know of this mystical law.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: IrrX on November 14, 2011, 12:48:12 AM
If you make an assertion, it's up to you to back it up. Don't expect others to find support for your arguments. Now play nice, or I'm going to start cleaning up in here.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: FalconJimmy on November 14, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
If you make an assertion, it's up to you to back it up. Don't expect others to find support for your arguments. Now play nice, or I'm going to start cleaning up in here.

Me?
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: IrrX on November 14, 2011, 08:43:26 PM
Anyone. Everyone. I don't care. I'm sick of seeing people shitposting and not having the stones to back it up.
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: FalconJimmy on November 14, 2011, 08:56:20 PM
Anyone. Everyone. I don't care. I'm sick of seeing people shitposting and not having the stones to back it up.

So... how do you propose that I prove that a law that doesn't exist doesn't exist?

On second thought, never mind. 
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: calvinexpress on November 15, 2011, 12:58:11 AM
You people are acting like a bunch of "Sovereign Citizens".  Crazy!  Hahaha. :o :o ???
Title: Re: 1 L starting school in July 2010
Post by: fortook on November 15, 2011, 06:51:40 AM
Can I play too?  I'll admit I haven't read the ABA law school standards in a minute, but from what I can remember:  An ABA law school may accept up to 12 credits from a non ABA state accredited school.  That does not mean they must.  No school must accept transfer credits.  Most do, only because the 1L classes are virtually the same at all schools.

That said, I do not see why any school would not: 1L classes are basic and standard.  Non ABA transfers just doesn't come up that often.  People go to state accredited schools for one of three reasons: their LSAT is too low, they want to save money or its geographical.  Its not likely that any of those things will change over the course of one semester.  Its not like transferring from one ABA school to another with 30 credits, trying to mitigate a bad LSAT score.  Your LSAT is still evaluated and the process is the same as a fresh application, rather than a transfer.

Distance law school are not even mentioned, CA is the only entity that deal with that.  The ABA does not even mention it and I suspect that only CA ABA and state accredited law school will consider transfer credits from distance schools.  The occurrence just doesn't come up enough for it to be a issue.