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Title: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: 10east on January 15, 2010, 06:45:26 PM
Hi all, I'm applying at the tail-end of the cycle and need help. I am bisexual, and I'm trying to decide whether to disclose my sexual orientation on applications. Is there any compelling reason to, or do they ask only for statistical purposes? Also, is this information (including information in an optional essay) considered confidential? I'm not out to my recommenders, and I don't know how out I will want to be in law school. Any comments are appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: cooleylawstudent on January 15, 2010, 07:37:23 PM
For a lot of schools it'll probally help you get in with affirmative action quotas but I wouldnt try that at Regent. Pat Robertson might send you to Haiti.  :-\
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: JDGuy86 on January 15, 2010, 09:33:58 PM
It would add to the diversity factor, also if sexual orientation has played any role in your undergraduate years it would be worth mentioning- like if you did volunteer work for an LGBT group or something like that.  Unless it's a conservative school it probably won't hurt anything.
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: vansondon on January 16, 2010, 10:24:08 AM
I very much encourage you to disclose it.  Not only that, I encourage you to discuss (in your personal and diversity statements) how your experience as a sexual minority has shaped your unique background, and how your background will enrich and contribute to the overall diversity of the schools you are applying to.

Have a look here at a similar discussion: http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,4021256.msg5361005.html#msg5361005

Also, check out the LSAC on LGBT applicants to get more guidance on the issue: http://lsac.org/SpecialInterests/lgbt-selecting-ls.asp
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: mbw on January 16, 2010, 06:01:34 PM
Hi all, I'm applying at the tail-end of the cycle and need help. I am bisexual and am working on apps at Penn and Cornell, and I'm trying to decide whether to disclose my sexual orientation. Is there any compelling reason to, or do they ask only for statistical purposes? Also, is this information (including information in an optional essay) considered confidential? I'm not out to my recommenders, and I don't know how out I will want to be in law school. Any comments are appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Cornell takes sexual orientation into consideration during the application process, so it would probably help rather than hurt you.
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: petermharrington on January 16, 2010, 07:59:17 PM

I really don't think that sexual orientation should have a bearing on your chances of admission.  But it doesn't hurt to try
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: violaboy on February 12, 2010, 07:58:40 AM
It doesn't seem to have helped me (or hurt me), and I don't regret talking about it at all.
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: TheCause on February 12, 2010, 10:24:06 AM
I don't want to offend anyone (even though I understand I probably will) but can someone please help me understand why being bisexual should have any impact on an application?

You get turned on by/fall in love with more types of people than anyone else right?   What does that quality or experience offer a law school in terms of diversity? (Or anything else for that matter)

And as a bisexual, do you have any desire to enter into a monogamous relationship with one person?  Or do you require intimacy with both sexes in order to be satisfied?  And if so, do you support polygamy?  (e.g., one straight man married to two bisexual women)
 

Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: cooleylawstudent on February 13, 2010, 09:50:28 PM
The same arument is why does it matter if my tan comes from the sun or my granpa "sunny", the theory is that some groups face more discrimination and derserve help curving them up to the rest with "affirmitative action" some support some don't. In theory at least, it is supposed to make sure that you can't discriminate by requiring you to have percentiles of groups. Many areas don't have these laws(michigan and California outlawed it) but schools still do it.
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: violaboy on February 13, 2010, 10:53:26 PM
Actually, as a minority and LGBT, I don't believe in affirmative action. I want to be admitted (and feel that I have been) by my innate intelligence, not the color of my skin or my "diversity". But I guess my background allows for lots of different viewpoints, which would be helpful in a classroom so that everyone can understand many people's points of view, since we won't be defending people who are exactly like ourselves.
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: cooleylawstudent on February 14, 2010, 07:39:51 PM
My job as a paralegal shows me just how many types of people there are out there.  :o
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: Haynes7 on April 29, 2010, 04:51:58 PM
   Just because a straight man is attracted to "women" doesn't mean he needs to date all women or even many women to be "satisfied".  Being bisexual just means that you are capable of being intimate with either men or women.  Many bisexual people are in happy monogamous relationships.  A bisexual person is attracted to the individual not their gender.  In many ways this makes them the most likely to enter into monogamous relationships.   
    Bisexual individuals face hostility for precisely the reasons you brought up.  People claim it does not qualify as a true "minority" category.  Bisexual people are often discriminated against by people within the gay community and straight community for being "on the fence".  It is amazing to me that many people can comprehend being gay or straight but cannot seem to wrap their heads around bisexuality. 
I don't want to offend anyone (even though I understand I probably will) but can someone please help me understand why being bisexual should have any impact on an application?

You get turned on by/fall in love with more types of people than anyone else right?   What does that quality or experience offer a law school in terms of diversity? (Or anything else for that matter)

And as a bisexual, do you have any desire to enter into a monogamous relationship with one person?  Or do you require intimacy with both sexes in order to be satisfied?  And if so, do you support polygamy?  (e.g., one straight man married to two bisexual women)
 


Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: vercingetorix on April 30, 2010, 06:12:11 AM
I don't want to offend anyone (even though I understand I probably will) but can someone please help me understand why being bisexual should have any impact on an application?

I second this emotion. No one likes a victim. You are not special. Welcome to the world.
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: cooleylawstudent on April 30, 2010, 08:09:46 AM
remind us how many "bisexual people you didn't call fagot and kick out of your unit, eh JH?

I don't want to offend anyone (even though I understand I probably will) but can someone please help me understand why being bisexual should have any impact on an application?

I second this emotion. No one likes a victim. You are not special. Welcome to the world.
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: vercingetorix on April 30, 2010, 09:21:13 AM
remind us how many "bisexual people you didn't call fagot and kick out of your unit, eh JH?

Oh stop pretending dude, you know I kicked you out for open and notorious buggery. Your arguments have the clarity and precision of a Jackson Pollock.
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: cooleylawstudent on April 30, 2010, 09:24:00 AM
nice "attempt" at use of the quote button. Honestly JH hate homosexuals, you admitt that or not?

remind us how many "bisexual people you didn't call fagot and kick out of your unit, eh JH?

Oh stop pretending dude, you know I kicked you out for open and notorious buggery. Your arguments have the clarity and precision of a Jackson Pollock.
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: vercingetorix on April 30, 2010, 09:34:00 AM
nice "attempt" at use of the quote button. Honestly JH hate homosexuals, you admitt that or not?

remind us how many "bisexual people you didn't call fagot and kick out of your unit, eh JH?

Oh stop pretending dude, you know I kicked you out for open and notorious buggery. Your arguments have the clarity and precision of a Jackson Pollock.

Your argument is ridiculous. There are over 200,000 DD's. I would imagine a fair number of them are gay. Are they just self-hating masochists? There are also thousands and thousands of 18-22 year-olds who find gayness as exciting as left-handedness. Come to think of it, that's how I feel about it. I don't give a toss what you do in your bedroom. My point (focus....now focus this is important) is that I find being gay or bisexual or transgendered is a complete and total bore. I couldn't care less. Can you do your job? Bringing up the fact that you date dudes is totally irrelevant. Same goes for law school. Also, you must be old because you make totally inappropriate use of "quotes."
Title: Re: Disclose sexual orientation or no?
Post by: nealric on April 30, 2010, 12:03:40 PM
This is a dead thread that's nothing but a flame war receptacle. Locked.